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00:09:34 | mt | saratoga: I'll work on joint_decode now if you haven't already got there. |
00:09:46 | saratoga | mt: no i haven't been working on it today |
00:09:59 | mt | Great. I'll give it a shot then. |
00:10:03 | saratoga | mt: are you interested in optimization? |
00:10:19 | saratoga | i'm wondering if I should do the easy stuff or leave you a chance to learn about it? |
00:11:28 | mt | The latter. :) |
00:12:09 | saratoga | ok i'll keep that in mind |
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00:12:47 | saratoga | one other thing, I noticed that switching the output to 32 bit samples (and therefore changing the output buffer to 32 bits) results in a prefetch abort on ARM, but works fine on the Sim |
00:13:05 | saratoga | i suspect that theres some kind of alignment issue thats triggered by changing the size of buffers |
00:13:16 | saratoga | do you have any idea where that might be? |
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00:14:16 | saratoga | I'm able to "fix" it by moving things around in memory but thats not a good solution |
00:15:32 | mt | I'm not sure. Do you have a patch ? |
00:16:05 | saratoga | http://www.duke.edu/~mgg6/rockbox/cook_output_precision.patch |
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00:16:20 | saratoga | let me try it with just the larger buffer but no change to precision to make sure its not some other bug |
00:20:22 | saratoga | just doubling the size of outbuf in codecs/cook.c is enough to crash the decoder |
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00:21:53 | mt | saratoga: hmm .. Doesn't 'Prefetch Abort' == executing code at an invalid memory address ? |
00:22:16 | saratoga | mt: yeah, and the address it gives isn't even memory, so something is badly screwed up |
00:22:25 | aidy | where are the bootloader build instructions again? |
00:23:10 | saratoga | aidy: probably somewhere on the wiki, but the process is the same except when prompted you chose "Bootloader" instead of "Normal Build" |
00:23:39 | aidy | i get these though /home/adriaan/Programs/source/rockbox/bootloader/show_logo.c:27:33: error: bitmaps/rockboxlogo.h: No such file or directory |
00:24:03 | saratoga | aidy: that means something has gone wrong with your build directory and you need to do make clean, or else delete it and rerun configure |
00:24:48 | aidy | okay |
00:24:53 | aidy | works now... wierd |
00:25:21 | aidy | how do i do the bootloader patching again? |
00:26:08 | mt | saratoga: Have you tried find_addr ? |
00:26:31 | saratoga | mt: the addresses it gives me are all nonsense, did you get any that looked real? |
00:26:49 | saratoga | aidy: what are you trying to do? |
00:27:27 | aidy | put the firmware in the bootloader |
00:27:31 | mt | Not yet no. |
00:27:41 | saratoga | aidy: ok but which target . . . |
00:27:46 | aidy | D2 |
00:27:57 | saratoga | can't help you with that |
00:28:01 | mt | About the sample, did you calculate it using the same method you told me about before ? |
00:28:18 | saratoga | which sample is this? |
00:28:19 | mt | *sample depth |
00:28:22 | saratoga | ah ok |
00:28:40 | saratoga | the old code shifted it 11 bits, so I assumed that I just needed to increase the current depth by 11 bits |
00:29:00 | saratoga | skimming the code it seemed like that was right but I'm not 100% sure |
00:29:16 | saratoga | i guess I should dump a wav and make sure the volume is the same before and after |
00:29:30 | gevaerts | aidy: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CowonD2Info may have what you need |
00:30:12 | aidy | ohh right |
00:30:13 | aidy | thanks |
00:33:45 | saratoga | mt: ok i'm going to head out for a couple hours at least, I'll be on tomorrow |
00:34:14 | saratoga | the alignment issue isn't a huge deal but its something we should keep an eye on since who knows what other changes might break playback if we don't fix it |
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00:36:15 | mt | saratoga: Sure. I'm playing around with the 32-bit precision now, so I'm not sure if I'm going to reach joint_decode tonight. |
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00:45:54 | mcuelenaere | gevaerts: yeah, it looks ok but it doesn't seem to work |
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00:49:20 | mt | Is it normal to get a data abort from a codec at an address in plugin space ? |
00:49:52 | gevaerts | mcuelenaere: maybe some careful use of logf() will help? I don't really have an idea |
00:50:14 | mcuelenaere | hmm yes, debugging will probably help |
00:50:19 | mcuelenaere | mt: not really.. |
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00:50:49 | mcuelenaere | gevaerts: I already know SD is disk 1, but don't know why |
00:51:05 | mcuelenaere | SD should be inited first, and NAND after it according to storage.c |
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00:52:30 | gevaerts | mcuelenaere: hm, weird indeed |
00:54:41 | gevaerts | mcuelenaere: does it work better if you use only STORAGE_SD? |
00:54:59 | mcuelenaere | gevaerts: yep, that gives the intended behaviour |
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00:56:59 | mcuelenaere | gevaerts: could the NAND driver handing out invalid partition data somehow got to do with it? |
00:57:10 | mcuelenaere | (it just reads raw NAND pages atm) |
00:57:38 | gevaerts | mcuelenaere: if it already goes wrong during storage_init(), I don't think it can be that |
00:58:01 | mcuelenaere | what makes you say it goes wrong during storage_init()? |
00:58:17 | gevaerts | that's where it calls sd_num_drives() |
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00:59:14 | mcuelenaere | yes, and sd_num_drives() returns 1 and assigns 0 to sd_drive_nr |
00:59:25 | mcuelenaere | but somehow the 'real' drive number for the SD card is 1 |
00:59:37 | gevaerts | ah ok. I see what you mean now |
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01:00:26 | gevaerts | so storage_drivers[] is wrong? |
01:01:55 | mcuelenaere | I'm not sure |
01:02:13 | gevaerts | or what do you mean by the 'real' drive number? |
01:02:38 | mcuelenaere | I dumped storage_drivers[], and it contains (4 << DRIVER_OFFSET | 0 << DRIVE_OFFSET) & (2 << DRIVER_OFFSET | 0 << DRIVE_OFFSET); does that sound right? |
01:03:03 | mcuelenaere | gevaerts: with the 'real' drive number I mean the one passed to disk_mount() & disk_unmount() (needed for hotswapping) |
01:03:45 | gevaerts | mcuelenaere: I'd expect (4 << DRIVER_OFFSET | 0 << DRIVE_OFFSET) and (8 << DRIVER_OFFSET | 0 << DRIVE_OFFSET) (4 is SD and 8 is NAND) |
01:04:04 | mcuelenaere | ah, could be 8 (I just repeated it out of my head) |
01:04:07 | gevaerts | mcuelenaere: where do you see this to be 1? |
01:04:47 | mcuelenaere | gevaerts: if I do disk_unmount(1) it unmounts the SD card, if I do disk_unmount(0) it doesn't |
01:05:07 | gevaerts | ah |
01:05:28 | mcuelenaere | yep, confirmed |
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01:05:52 | mcuelenaere | and 1 doesn't match sd_drive_nr (got from sd_num_drives() ) |
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01:05:59 | aidy | nice |
01:06:03 | aidy | sd card works |
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01:07:21 | n00b2Hack | Whats up!!! |
01:07:47 | aidy | n00b2Hack: hi, it's spelled 'you' |
01:07:51 | mcuelenaere | n00b2Hack: this is an on-topic channel.. |
01:08:32 | n00b2Hack | I Know that, but thanks XD |
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01:08:49 | scorche | if you know that, then why did you say it in the first place? |
01:11:10 | n00b2Hack | Well Forget it, and scuse my bad english. Remember, i'm writing you From Venezuela. The lenguage here is the Spanish |
01:11:44 | krazykit | regardless of what language you speak, this channel is about rockbox. please take your not-rockbox conversations elsewhere |
01:11:49 | Mikachu | do you have an actual question? |
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01:14:13 | aidy | lool |
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01:16:10 | aidy | gevaerts: his site is about rockbox actually |
01:16:10 | aidy | but |
01:16:27 | aidy | unless someone speaks spanish here he can't do much here |
01:17:16 | gevaerts | ah, ok. In that case, I do apologise |
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01:17:53 | n00b2Hack | No i'm not a spammer. My page it's about rockbox Sansa e200 |
01:19:36 | CIA-69 | New commit by gevaerts (r21963): Attempt to add c200v2 builds |
01:20:01 | n00b2Hack | i'm working in one theme and i like to know opinions!!! |
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01:21:12 | n00b2Hack | Ok |
01:22:34 | Ubuntuxer | @n00b2Hack: Do you know you can upload your theme here: http://themes.rockbox.org/upload.php |
01:22:53 | mcuelenaere | ugh, upon first mount disk_mount(0) returns 1, disk_unmount(0) also returns 1 (it's not dismounted from the filebrowser!) but when re-mounting disk_mount(0) returns 0 (even though it's mounted; playing songs works..) |
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01:25:55 | mcuelenaere | huh? disk_unmount(1) & disk_mount(0) gives the intended behaviour.. |
01:26:20 | * | gevaerts stares at disk.c |
01:26:54 | CIA-69 | New commit by Ubuntuxer (r21964): Replace bitmap menu with a standard menu, add highscore table, save last achieved level and add difficulty (part of FS #10193) |
01:29:57 | mcuelenaere | hmm fat_mount() doesn't seem to get called upon remounting |
01:30:02 | gevaerts | mcuelenaere: I assume it runs disk_mount_all() during boot? |
01:30:16 | mcuelenaere | gevaerts: I guess so |
01:30:29 | gevaerts | it should anyway |
01:30:34 | mcuelenaere | yep, line 492 at apps/main.c |
01:31:49 | gevaerts | the remount would be the one where disk_mount(0) returns 0, right? |
01:32:31 | mcuelenaere | the remount is when I replug the SD card in (ideally disk_mount(0) should return 1 then) |
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01:33:58 | gevaerts | it should, yes. If fat_mount() doesn't get called, either the partition table is weird (which shouldn't be the case here), or get_free_volume() finds nothing |
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01:34:43 | gevaerts | or there are read issues, but if it works in single-driver mode that shouldn't be the case |
01:35:23 | aidy | is anyone familiar with touch screen code? |
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01:35:57 | aidy | what i want to ask is if the absolute point mode is meant to be useable |
01:36:16 | gevaerts | I'd hope so :) |
01:36:29 | mcuelenaere | aidy: in most places, yes |
01:36:40 | mcuelenaere | when a place isn't ported, it automatically switches to grid mode |
01:36:57 | aidy | but say in the playing screen |
01:37:07 | aidy | nothing much happens in absolute point mode |
01:37:10 | aidy | when i press around |
01:37:37 | mcuelenaere | gevaerts: fat_unmount() gets called when I call disk_unmount(sd_drive_nr); but the file tree doesn't want to show the unmount though |
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01:37:44 | mcuelenaere | aidy: that depends on the WPS |
01:37:47 | mcuelenaere | what player are you on? |
01:38:09 | aidy | D2 |
01:38:12 | aidy | heh |
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01:38:23 | aidy | now it stopped reacting to the touch screen altogether |
01:38:33 | mcuelenaere | I think the D2 has a WPS where an on-screen menu gets showed when you press the WPS? |
01:38:45 | mcuelenaere | also it should pause/play when pressing the play/pause button |
01:41:46 | gevaerts | mcuelenaere: I really don't see anything that would explain what you're seeing :\ |
01:41:48 | aidy | the wps i'm using is cabbiev2 |
01:42:03 | mcuelenaere | gevaerts: neither do I ... |
01:42:15 | * | mcuelenaere guesses this is something wrong in his SD driver |
01:42:17 | aidy | which is what was enabled when I installed rockbox |
01:43:28 | gevaerts | mcuelenaere: but how could a bug in your SD driver cause disk_unmount() not to work properly, especially when it works on its own? |
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01:44:00 | gevaerts | funman: by the way, now FS #9545 is in, you can start experimenting with more storage cleanups properly :) |
01:44:12 | mcuelenaere | gevaerts: dunno, but most of the time when stuff is broken it's due to target-specific code :) |
01:44:29 | funman | gevaerts: i thought the function needed for disk storage would be left as stubs? |
01:44:35 | gevaerts | mcuelenaere: normally, yes, but the entire multi-driver bit is new... |
01:44:35 | funman | functions* |
01:45:25 | gevaerts | funman: if you manage to find a way to get rid of the stubs without adding #ifdefs to the apps/ code, I'm all for it! |
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01:46:01 | funman | gevaerts: if the functions are present in the plugin API struct, they have to be defined |
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01:46:43 | funman | a potential solution would be to use storage_sleep() in apps/ code, and #define storage_sleep to rb->storage_sleep or (void)0 in plugin.h |
01:46:51 | mcuelenaere | aidy: hmm you're right, the D2 's WPS doesn't seem to be adjusted for absolute point mode |
01:46:56 | gevaerts | funman: you could try some of those weird tricks like Unhelpful did for in-core vs pluginlib jpeg |
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01:47:37 | funman | gevaerts: can you point me to a specific commit ? |
01:47:47 | mcuelenaere | aidy: try porting the WPS over from the Onda and/or M:Robe 500 |
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01:47:56 | gevaerts | no, sorry. All I know is that there is such code somewhere |
01:48:03 | mcuelenaere | (the latter should have a basic OSD when pressing the screen) |
01:48:12 | aidy | mcuelenaere: is that going to be harder than just changing some coordinates? |
01:48:21 | mcuelenaere | aidy: not really |
01:48:30 | aidy | okay |
01:48:35 | aidy | then i might just try that |
01:48:45 | mcuelenaere | don't forget posting a patch ;) |
01:48:55 | aidy | sure |
01:49:08 | aidy | are those wps's in the source tree? |
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01:52:06 | mcuelenaere | aidy: yes, in wps/ |
01:52:18 | mcuelenaere | look at the cabbiev2.*.mrobe500 version |
01:52:32 | mcuelenaere | (the %T tags are touchscreen area tags IIRC) |
01:53:32 | * | mcuelenaere wonders whether 'NOTE: If you boot with an SD card inserted and then remove it, there is currently a bug where you can't access files on the internal NAND either until you insert a card again. Need to look into this...' is related to his bug.. |
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01:54:10 | aidy | um |
01:54:13 | gevaerts | hm, could be |
01:54:20 | aidy | i should probably build the simulator |
01:54:22 | aidy | to test the wps |
01:55:30 | mcuelenaere | aidy: if you're on Windows, you can get them from rasher.dk/rockbox/simulator/">http://rasher.dk/rockbox/simulator/ |
01:55:38 | aidy | i'm not :) |
01:55:49 | gevaerts | then you can't :) |
01:56:04 | aidy | the sim only works on windows? |
01:56:04 | mcuelenaere | hmm doesn't the build system offer sim builds? |
01:56:09 | aidy | yes |
01:56:18 | mcuelenaere | no, the ones on rasher site only work on Windows :) |
01:56:24 | mcuelenaere | rasher's* |
01:56:28 | aidy | sure |
01:56:34 | gevaerts | mcuelenaere: no. They aren't uploaded |
01:58:02 | aidy | btw is there a calendar plugin that supports ical files or something like that |
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01:59:37 | mcuelenaere | aidy: try the patch tracker |
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02:04:20 | mcuelenaere | gevaerts: should the root path on my µSD card be <microSD0>/ or / ? |
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02:04:34 | gevaerts | hm |
02:04:42 | mcuelenaere | (it is /, according to Lua) |
02:04:55 | * | gevaerts slaps forehead |
02:05:34 | gevaerts | hm, wait... |
02:05:45 | gevaerts | I think it will turn out to be / |
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02:06:05 | gevaerts | Which also might mean that hotswap is going to behave strangely |
02:06:47 | mcuelenaere | well it currently is /, I'm not sure whether it should be <microSD0>/ when there's only 1 drive (atm) |
02:07:05 | mcuelenaere | why would hotswap behave strangely? |
02:07:12 | gevaerts | Volume 0 is always / |
02:07:23 | mcuelenaere | this is volume 1 |
02:07:29 | mcuelenaere | uh sorry |
02:07:32 | mcuelenaere | volume 0, you're right |
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02:08:39 | gevaerts | I'm not sure, but I suspect that there are some hidden assumptions about volume 0 always being there |
02:09:41 | mcuelenaere | hmm making SD volume 1 didn't help |
02:10:24 | gevaerts | you can't, actually. You can make it *drive* 1, but as long as NAND isn't readable, SD will remain volume 0 |
02:10:47 | gevaerts | you could try something with ramdisks, but I'm not sure how that will work out |
02:11:01 | mcuelenaere | ramdisk at drive 0 and SD at 1? |
02:11:12 | Unhelpful | funman: apps/plugins/lib/wrappers.h contains macro wrappers for *some* core functions, for the purpose of building the same code in core and in pluginlib. if you want to import a core file that needs something that's not in there, you can just add it. |
02:11:17 | mcuelenaere | but doesn't the ramdisk need a valid partition and FAT before boot? |
02:12:16 | gevaerts | I *think* you can get around that by booting from SD (same case as with NAND before SD, so that should work), and then using USB to format it |
02:12:34 | gevaerts | then unplug, and you should be running from ramdisk |
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02:12:56 | aidy | the simulator binay doesn't get linked because of the SD patches or something http://omploader.org/vMXp5cQ |
02:12:58 | * | gevaerts decides to try this on c200 |
02:13:35 | mcuelenaere | aidy: you have the D2 SD patch applied? |
02:14:31 | aidy | yes |
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02:15:54 | mcuelenaere | does Rockbox support FAT12? |
02:16:07 | gevaerts | no |
02:16:55 | gevaerts | I use a 24MB ramdisk. FAT16 works well on that |
02:16:56 | mcuelenaere | can you format the ramdisk as FAT32? |
02:17:00 | mcuelenaere | ah |
02:17:21 | * | mcuelenaere only has 16MB of RAM |
02:17:39 | aidy | that's huge :O:O:O |
02:17:54 | mcuelenaere | not really, there are targets with 64MB RAM |
02:17:57 | aidy | nice i have 32 |
02:18:00 | aidy | :D |
02:18:16 | gevaerts | mcuelenaere: playing with mkfs.vfat options may make it work |
02:18:19 | aidy | used to be 12 on the X5 i think |
02:18:32 | mcuelenaere | aidy: tried compiling without the SD patch? |
02:18:44 | aidy | mcuelenaere: will do that now |
02:19:04 | * | mcuelenaere had that bug too for the VX747 |
02:19:34 | aidy | how do force svn to take a clean revision |
02:20:01 | mcuelenaere | aidy: try moving the HAVE_MULTIDRIVE etc defines in config-cowond2.h into a #ifdef SIMULATOR block |
02:20:28 | mcuelenaere | aidy: svn revert -R -f * should do it |
02:20:43 | mcuelenaere | ah there's no -f for revert |
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02:22:02 | mcuelenaere | aidy: I mean #ifndef SIMULATOR |
02:22:05 | mcuelenaere | I meant* |
02:22:27 | aidy | ya |
02:24:32 | gevaerts | mcuelenaere: the ramdisk trick does work to get / to be ramdisk |
02:26:23 | gevaerts | mcuelenaere: mkfs.vfat -F 16 -s 1 /dev/<whatever>1 |
02:26:31 | gevaerts | works on an 8MB ramdisk |
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02:26:59 | mcuelenaere | first need to do fdisk |
02:27:03 | gevaerts | yes |
02:28:42 | gevaerts | hm, the sansa sd driver doesn't handle the first_drive bit correctly yet, so this weird setup of mine behaves extra strangely |
02:29:28 | aidy | mcuelenaere: that didn't work |
02:29:40 | mcuelenaere | hm ok this seems to create a subdirectory <microSD1> in my root? (between the other files on my SD card) |
02:29:53 | mcuelenaere | is that normal behaviour? |
02:30:15 | aidy | read the comments on the patch |
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02:30:30 | gevaerts | wait, did you also change the order in storage_init()? You need to do that in order to get the ramdisk on volume 0 |
02:30:52 | mcuelenaere | ah no |
02:30:57 | gevaerts | Also, I strongly recommend using USB to put marker files on all drives, so you can recognise them easily :) |
02:31:13 | mcuelenaere | hmm I'm getting USB resets now |
02:31:22 | mcuelenaere | ah my DAP crashed :) |
02:31:47 | * | mcuelenaere should add a backlight_on() call to panicf |
02:32:15 | * | gevaerts is sure that some people wondered what this ramdisk thing was good for when he added it :) |
02:36:36 | Unhelpful | gevaerts: to speed up build times on our rockbox devices. ;) |
02:36:57 | aidy | well the sim builds on a clean tree so i'll use that |
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02:37:35 | mcuelenaere | gevaerts: now the µSD card gets properly unmounted, but it doesn't want to remount :) |
02:38:13 | gevaerts | mcuelenaere: this is what they call progress :) |
02:38:35 | mcuelenaere | yeey, and Rockbox hangs when shutting down :) |
02:39:37 | gevaerts | Anyway, you're now in the situation that people had in mind when hotswap was introduced, so it should be easier to track down the bugs |
02:41:51 | aidy | mcuelenaere: "This probably breaks compiling for the simulator; if so try moving the HAVE_MULTIDRIVE, HAVE_HOTSWAP & NUM_DRIVES defines into a #ifndef SIMULATOR block." - if you do that you get '/home/adriaan/Programs/source/rockbox/firmware/export/config.h:591:2: fout: #error HAVE_MULTIDRIVE needs to have an explicit NUM_DRIVES |
02:43:48 | gevaerts | aidy: also move the CONFIG_STORAGE define |
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02:50:07 | aidy | gevaerts: yay |
02:50:12 | aidy | seems to work |
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05:02:07 | mc2739 | DarkSpectrum: That was the last build from the old build system. RBUTIL may need an update for the new build system, or there may be a problem in the build system. |
05:03:34 | DarkSpectrum | oh |
05:03:36 | DarkSpectrum | ty |
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07:08:38 | FlynDice | funman: (for the logs) Pertains to mmci clocks but sounds similar to pl180(pl181 in fact): http://infocenter.arm.com/help/index.jsp?topic=/com.arm.doc.faqs/ka3476.html |
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09:56:07 | mt | amiconn: ping |
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10:00:38 | mt | amiconn (or anyone else with coldfire targets): Could you test this patch http://www.pastie.org/551034 and then put outpuf in iram and see the speedup ? I got about 4% on a e200v1 (PP5024). |
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10:03:57 | darkhamm | hey people, i look this http://picasaweb.google.com/peturbox/RockBoxDevcon2009#5349549960278571330 |
10:04:14 | darkhamm | what about rockbox on archos av320? |
10:05:18 | scorche | there is a preliminary port in SVN, but it isnt anywhere near "functional"...it just needs someone to work on it (or me to have the time to do it...) |
10:06:41 | pixelma | mt: I could try on my M5 but only if you tell me exactly what to do (or give me a full patch). I can compile on my own but not code |
10:06:56 | pixelma | ah no |
10:07:25 | darkhamm | scorche: it's a dream would come true.... |
10:08:02 | pixelma | mt: the M5 is currently running a battery_bench... although... I would abort it if you find no other tester |
10:08:56 | pixelma | darkhamm: maybe you can find other interested users which are able and willing to help coding |
10:09:15 | martian67 | http://rationreality.com/2007/09/25/the-chicago-bulls-logo-robot-alien-menace/ |
10:09:16 | martian67 | D: |
10:09:25 | darkhamm | scorche: what are the main points o f work? |
10:09:37 | scorche | you mean the main bits to be done? |
10:09:43 | darkhamm | yes |
10:10:37 | scorche | pretty much all of it... |
10:13:38 | mt | pixelma: It's not that urgent, I'm working on something else currently, could you ping me when it's done ? |
10:14:23 | pixelma | I expect somewhen tomorrow (arounnd the same time) and then it will need a bit of charging) |
10:16:30 | mt | Oh ok. I'll just wait then. :) |
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14:53:04 | mt | linuxstb: Just want to make sure, is libfaad only for aac in mp4 or could it be used for aac in rm too? |
14:56:48 | linuxstb | libfaad is just the aac codec. It doesn't handle mp4 parsing at all. So yes, that will be used for both aac-in-mp4 and aac-in-rm |
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15:02:36 | aidy | does anyone know if there's a list of touch screen wps tags? |
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15:05:26 | mcuelenaere | aidy: I don't think they're documented |
15:05:34 | mcuelenaere | you'll need to look in the source |
15:06:13 | mcuelenaere | search for HAVE_TOUCHSCREEN parts in apps/gui/wps_parser.c |
15:06:45 | mcuelenaere | aidy: would you be willing to add them to CustomWps? |
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15:07:03 | mcuelenaere | (the wiki page) |
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15:12:47 | aidy | i'll do that |
15:13:12 | aidy | also, i think using the mrobe touch screen wps on the D2 |
15:13:16 | aidy | works |
15:13:33 | aidy | the simulator doesn't do anything if you toggle play though |
15:14:01 | funman | FlynDice: thanks for the link on mmci, if you can find a copy of PL181 datasheet that could help (to see how similar it is to the pl180) |
15:14:43 | aidy | mcuelenaere: is there a tool to generate wps packs? say i want all the images needed for cabbiev2.320x240x16.mrobe500.wps |
15:15:07 | mcuelenaere | I don't think so |
15:15:19 | mcuelenaere | but writing a script to do that shouldn't be hard |
15:16:48 | aidy | but there should be such a thing already because the correct images get put into the theme directory when you build rockbox for a specific target |
15:17:17 | n1s | it's part of the build system |
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15:18:18 | mcuelenaere | ah, well grep '.bmp' cabbiev2.320x240x16.mrobe500.wps | sed 's/.*|\(.*\.bmp\)|.*/\1/' should give you all the bitmaps |
15:18:40 | funman | how complex (what kind of tool do you need) is it to measure the frequency of a clock (in the 20-100MHz range) ? |
15:19:10 | funman | We could measure it on the CLK pin of a µSD card, and relate it to the clocks running on AMS. |
15:19:20 | funman | I suspect the MCLK could be the IDE clock |
15:19:41 | aidy | mcuelenaere: thanks :) |
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15:27:04 | aidy | umm http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/oops/Main/CustomWPS?template=oopsaccessdenied;def=topic_access;param1=change;param2=access%20not%20allowed%20on%20web |
15:27:12 | aidy | when trying to edit any wiki page |
15:27:19 | aidy | after logging in |
15:28:00 | funman | aidy: I can edit fine, what is your wiki name ? |
15:28:11 | aidy | AdriaanLeijnse |
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15:30:06 | funman | aidy: now you can edit the wiki (you have to be authorized by a person who already has wiki writing rights) |
15:30:36 | aidy | oh ok |
15:30:37 | aidy | thanks :) |
15:31:18 | mcuelenaere | aidy: I just added the %T tag though :) |
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15:32:38 | aidy | but there's also Tl |
15:33:01 | aidy | 349 { WPS_TOKEN_LASTTOUCH, "Tl", WPS_REFRESH_DYNAMIC, parse_timeout }, |
15:33:07 | aidy | not sure what it's for |
15:33:26 | mcuelenaere | yeah, was going to add that; but seems like funman is editing the page |
15:33:32 | aidy | ok |
15:33:35 | mcuelenaere | aidy: # toggle the touchscreen button viewport |
15:33:52 | mcuelenaere | it toggles the display of the additional viewport with buttons (the OSD) |
15:35:00 | aidy | oh |
15:35:50 | funman | mcuelenaere: sorry i closed the tab, i'll see if i can open it again to remove the lock |
15:36:22 | funman | done |
15:36:32 | aidy | what's the 2.5 in %?Tl2.5<%Vdt|%Vdu> |
15:37:10 | mcuelenaere | a timeout I think |
15:37:20 | mcuelenaere | see the description of %mv |
15:37:31 | mcuelenaere | that also uses parse_timeout |
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15:39:20 | aidy | aha |
15:39:38 | * | mcuelenaere added Tl to the wiki |
15:41:20 | aidy | heh that mrobe wps isn't exactly great |
15:41:39 | funman | which (existing) utility could I use to parse a binary file for finding bitmaps ? |
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15:41:59 | funman | in my case, the "hold" bitmap in c200v2 firmware |
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15:42:28 | gevaerts | funman: I'd say a hex dump thing with a very small font, and look for patterns |
15:43:02 | mcuelenaere | JdGordon: shouldn't the %T & %Tl tags be in an #ifdef HAVE_TOUCHSCREEN block? |
15:43:52 | bertrik | I remember having great tools for recognising bitmaps on the amiga |
15:44:06 | n1s | funman: there's some old tool used for "modding" the OF for the h300 that could do such a thing |
15:44:42 | mcuelenaere | funman: I find http://www.mp4nation.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=2435 very useful (it works under wine) |
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15:48:22 | stripwax | funman - google for ISE |
15:48:45 | n1s | http://www.cerebus.de/iriver/ supposedly works pretty well too |
15:48:55 | n1s | (that's the h300 mod thing) |
15:48:56 | stripwax | http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=+ise+%22image+searching+engine%22&meta= |
15:48:57 | funman | stripwax: mcuelenaere just linked me to it, now I must find something to unrar it (unrar-free doesn't like the file) |
15:49:20 | mcuelenaere | funman: I could zip it for you |
15:49:20 | n1s | the nonfree unrar? |
15:49:47 | funman | mcuelenaere: it would be nice |
15:51:18 | mcuelenaere | funman: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?m0jynyewnoj |
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15:55:44 | funman | thanks, it runs fine |
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15:57:08 | tomcat_ha | i just installed rockbox 3.2 monster build on my ipod |
15:57:12 | funman | unfortunately it doesn't find any image |
15:57:18 | tomcat_ha | im trying to get a root playlist with all my music on it |
15:57:31 | tomcat_ha | however i cant find the menu to increase the playlist limit of 10k |
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15:58:12 | n1s | tomcat_ha: that's a unofficial build by the sound of it, which we can't support, the official build has the setting where the manualk tells you :) |
15:58:16 | mcuelenaere | funman: what format is the image in? |
15:58:25 | tomcat_ha | i dont find it in the manual :P |
15:58:28 | tomcat_ha | and its mostly the same |
15:58:29 | funman | mcuelenaere: i don't know, perhaps there is no header at all |
15:58:39 | mcuelenaere | there's no need for a header |
15:58:56 | AlexP | tomcat_ha: mostly the same != the same, and unsupported = unsupported :) |
15:59:26 | n1s | tomcat_ha: http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-h100/rockbox-buildch8.html#x11-1380008.5.5 |
15:59:55 | n1s | general settings->system->limits |
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16:00:14 | funman | mcuelenaere: like iriver H300 (16 bpp, 5-6-5, |
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16:00:32 | funman | i am not sure if it is vertical or horizontal packing |
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16:01:08 | tomcat_ha | ah found it |
16:01:10 | tomcat_ha | thanks |
16:02:00 | mcuelenaere | funman: can you download the fw somewhere? |
16:02:25 | CIA-69 | New commit by mcuelenaere (r21965): Onda VX747 WPS: add touchscreen areas for shuffle & repeat mode |
16:03:24 | funman | mcuelenaere: http://mp3support.sandisk.com/firmware/c200/c200v203.02.05a.zip |
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16:08:21 | funman | the H3Mod doesn't run in wine |
16:09:08 | mcuelenaere | funman: 003145F0 looks like some sort of image if you resize to 128 width in 16-bit colors |
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16:09:45 | mcuelenaere | no, it's an 32-bit image |
16:10:39 | mcuelenaere | it's an image of the sansa |
16:12:40 | funman | mcuelenaere: how do you display raw rgb files ? |
16:12:49 | mcuelenaere | funman: I see several images now |
16:12:53 | mcuelenaere | there are also 16bit images |
16:13:20 | mcuelenaere | funman: open the file, press 16 or 32 in the left column and resize the image with CTRL-RIGHT arrowkey |
16:13:32 | mcuelenaere | (see the Size menu for the combo's) |
16:13:43 | funman | oh you mean with ISE, |
16:14:27 | * | stripwax recommends ISE |
16:14:29 | mcuelenaere | images seem to start at 0029D2F4 |
16:14:52 | stripwax | it's what I used to reverse engineer the iriver H1xx firmware encryption :) |
16:17:02 | funman | the c200v2 lcd is 132x80 |
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16:18:01 | funman | i found the lock icons at 0x29D588 |
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16:18:53 | funman | the image format must be different from what ISE assumes |
16:20:18 | mcuelenaere | yes the colors are rather weird |
16:20:32 | bertrik | I might have a go at enabling USB in the meizu bootloader |
16:20:59 | funman | perhaps byte order is different (i don't know how to reorder rgb channels in ISE) |
16:23:22 | mcuelenaere | Settings->Image Modes |
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16:23:59 | funman | I can change channel widths but not order |
16:24:30 | funman | since I have found the images, I can now look at the code, thanks to both of you ;) |
16:24:37 | bertrik | gevaerts, what do I need to start/run usb, just call usb_init? |
16:24:49 | funman | the hold images are at the very beginning of the 1st header block by the way |
16:25:03 | mcuelenaere | well there's byte reverse (CTRL+R), but that isn't any better |
16:25:41 | gevaerts | bertrik: usb_init(), and then usb_start_monitoring() |
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16:34:11 | bertrik | usb_start_monitoring is not compiled in for some reason |
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16:34:46 | bertrik | it depends on USB_FULL_INIT it seems |
16:35:21 | gevaerts | ah yes, you need to add the meizu to the USB_FULL_INIT set at the top of usb.c |
16:39:12 | funman | strange because following images are fine (in 140x), except the background color (blue in the OF) |
16:40:00 | bertrik | usb-tcc.c will need some work to be able to re-use it for the meizus ... |
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16:43:19 | shotofadds | bertrik: it needs some work to be able to be used on tcc. it's not exactly reliable :/ |
16:45:58 | bertrik | yay, it compiles ... |
16:46:39 | aidy | what do i do if a plugin says 'not enough memory'? |
16:46:56 | shotofadds | generayll stop music playback and try again |
16:47:44 | aidy | ok works now |
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16:48:43 | aidy | shotofadds: i'm on the D2 btw ;) |
16:48:56 | aidy | works pretty good with the SD card as far as i've tried |
16:49:27 | shotofadds | aidy: yeah I read you were trying to get the touchscreen WPS working. I haven't really tried any on that stuff yet, so good luck! |
16:49:46 | shotofadds | I'll commit the SD driver today |
16:50:37 | aidy | shotofadds: the mrobe wps works great |
16:50:55 | aidy | but the extra 'buttons' are in the middle of the screen |
16:51:11 | shotofadds | you could move them somewhere else :p |
16:51:25 | aidy | i'll make a new one with the touchscreen buttons in the backdrop or something |
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16:51:49 | aidy | next to that top bar thingy the cabbie theme has |
16:52:05 | shotofadds | if you make something that looks good, do let us know! |
16:53:26 | aidy | i will :) |
16:54:20 | bertrik | gevaerts, nothing happens ... (at least it doesn't hang). Is there anything I can do to see if anything USB is going on? |
16:55:03 | bertrik | the interrupt is probably not connected |
16:55:10 | gevaerts | bertrik: do you have a proper implementation if usb_detect()? |
16:55:30 | bertrik | yes, it calls charger_detected, which is implemented already and works |
16:55:52 | bertrik | charger_inserted I mean |
16:56:22 | gevaerts | in that case maybe the interrupt, yes |
16:57:07 | bertrik | oh wait, maybe it isn't, was confusing it with charging_state |
16:58:16 | * | bertrik wonders how interrupts should be handled with the tcc driver |
16:58:52 | CIA-69 | New commit by kkurbjun (r21966): Jewels: Add graphics for 640x480 screens. |
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17:04:37 | stripwax | What device(s) have 640x480 screens? |
17:05:26 | gevaerts | mr500 |
17:05:52 | stripwax | nice. thanks1 |
17:05:58 | * | stripwax sighs at his shift key |
17:07:20 | gevaerts | and if you thought the ipod video has a bad CPU power / screen size ratio, try the mr500 :) |
17:07:51 | stripwax | yeah, I was going to ask, what's the rockbox full-screen fps like for the mr500? |
17:08:39 | * | gevaerts lets kkurbjun answer the detailed questions |
17:09:40 | aidy | shotofadds: how does saving work on rockboy (i presume this is a standard screen?) i can write a name but the only way to exit the screen is the power switch, which doesn't save it on a name |
17:09:53 | kkurbjun | I'm not sure that it runs at currently, there's dma hardware designed around image manipulation that is currently not used so I think once that is taken advantage of it will be fast than it currently is |
17:10:04 | kkurbjun | faster that is |
17:10:21 | bertrik | I did get about 7951 USB interrupts now but can't tell if anything else happened |
17:10:42 | kkurbjun | it's not too bad as it stands, games are mostly playable, doom runs reasonable |
17:10:49 | shotofadds | aidy: welcome to the wonders of the on-screen keyboard. it hasn't really been reworked for touchscreen use yet. hold on a sec and I'll check the keymap... |
17:11:28 | kkurbjun | the m:robe 500 can run in 640x480 or 320x240 mode though, the lcd has a VGA na QVGA setting |
17:12:12 | kkurbjun | right now it's running QVGA, but I want to get everything working at VGA since it really shows off the screen :-D |
17:12:20 | shotofadds | aidy: a long press of the centre 'button' should do the trick (see apps/keymaps/keymap-touchscreen.c) |
17:12:26 | shotofadds | not ideal, I knoew |
17:12:29 | shotofadds | *know |
17:12:52 | aidy | well |
17:13:00 | aidy | pretty okay for me |
17:13:02 | bertrik | I'll try to make the DEBUG macro in usb-tcc do something |
17:13:44 | funman | i checked the 13 10-bit ADC channels on my Sansa c200v2, I see no difference when I press the missing buttons |
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17:18:01 | saratoga | funman: I think I can measure the SD clock on the e200v2 |
17:18:09 | saratoga | via its SD connector |
17:18:19 | saratoga | is that good enough or are there prescalars in the way? |
17:19:13 | funman | saratoga: we don't know which clock source is used, but it should be in the 10-100MHz range |
17:20:10 | saratoga | the sd clock presented to the sd card is typically 10-20MHz right? |
17:20:22 | funman | since the timeouts calculations incorrectly assumes pclk, it might explain the data timeouts |
17:20:41 | funman | saratoga: i don't know |
17:21:02 | saratoga | "25 MHz for regular cards, and 50 MHz for high-speed cards" |
17:21:10 | saratoga | so theres a range of clocks it could be |
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17:21:29 | funman | isn't that the data transfer speed ? |
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17:21:38 | saratoga | i have a spectrum analyser with a 1GHz bandwidth, so I can try, though i have no idea what hooking that up to the sansa will do |
17:21:42 | funman | 25 or 50 Mbits/s |
17:21:59 | saratoga | funman: its a 4 pin device, so I'd assume transfer speed is MHz/2 |
17:22:08 | saratoga | err in Mbyte/s |
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17:27:06 | funman | if you can't put a card in the slot at the same time you might need to modify the code to have the controller always running |
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17:28:28 | Zagor | who runs build client rp_huriana? it disconnects and reconnects every 10 seconds and hence never gets any work done. |
17:28:41 | shotofadds | linuxstb: do you know how the win32 version of tcctool at http://download.rockbox.org/utils/tcctool/ was built? It appears to be built with MSVC (links msvcrt.dll) yet tcctool.c doesn't build in MSVC due to lack of inttypes.h... |
17:29:06 | shotofadds | I need to get it updated, since it is rather old and still has the bug where the last few bytes of the file might not get sent to the device |
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17:30:08 | gevaerts | Zagor: I think the average scores look strange |
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17:32:28 | Blue_Dude | Hi. Does anyone have some insight as to why FS #10199 might cause disk spinups on a h140 target? |
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17:35:37 | saratoga | funman: maybe I can via the side pins in this picture, if i can find a probe small enough: http://www.flickr.com/photos/90053035@N00/2494640751/in/set-72157605072639496/ |
17:35:59 | Zagor | gevaerts: yes. my c3 keeps increasing. it has never achieved what is now its' "average score"... |
17:36:39 | saratoga | is that sigmatel sdk linked in the forums new? |
17:36:52 | gevaerts | indeed. Exactly the same as with rb1 and rb2, and also I guess seattle-jdgordon |
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17:37:25 | gevaerts | Zagor: did you see that I added the c200v2 to the builds file? |
17:38:10 | pixelma | Blue_Dude: are you sure the disk doesn't "spin up" a bit more often than usual on your e200 as well (do you use a WPS which shows disk activity or the standard status bar)? |
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17:40:13 | Blue_Dude | pixelma: To be honest that had never occurred to me. I was thinking it was a peculiarity of HD based DAP's. I don't use a WPS with a disk indicator so I hadn't noticed. I *did* notice more use of CPU boost to keep the buffer full though. |
17:40:42 | pixelma | and "a bit more often" isn't very descriptive I think (and this comment is by Alex Wallis which is a blind user and I think he uses other patches as well, don't want to insult him but) |
17:42:05 | saratoga | huh its a DSP only core, so I guess we don't really care anyway |
17:43:10 | Blue_Dude | pixelma: He did say that before the patch he didn't experience disk spinups at all with certain playlists, and gets them occasionally afterward. I'm just not sure what would cause them to begin with. Low memory, less file caching, what? |
17:44:32 | Zagor | gevaerts: I see it now :) |
17:44:56 | Zagor | it's nice that the system is not depending on me or bagder |
17:46:07 | gevaerts | it is indeed |
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17:46:32 | gevaerts | hm, the delta table looks wrong |
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17:46:58 | Zagor | oops |
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17:51:21 | pixelma | kkurbjun: interested in the portrait screen bubbles graphics? Though I'd need to prepare that for the e200 as well then... |
17:52:27 | kkurbjun | I am, but at the moment I'm working on getting the rest of the plugins working at 640x480 for the m:robe - I might mess around with bubbles after that, but I would like to get that flashwriter plugin in svn sometime too |
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17:53:44 | pixelma | alright, I put them somewhere to download. Just tell me and I can give you the link |
17:57:05 | saratoga | kkurbjun: getting the flash writer in would be nice |
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18:07:03 | stripwax__ | Any objections if I add the 'erase dynamic playlist' warning to pictureflow? Currently it just plays the selected track without warning. Imho pictureflow should let you add/queue/insert/etc into the playlist too; happy to look into adding that if nobody else is working on something similar |
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18:10:55 | meermanr | Anyone know how/where I can get a dump of the original firmware for an iriver H10 (6GB)? When you turn it on it claims some files are missing and that use of the iriver recovery tool is required. I found the tool, but it appears to download what it needs from the 'net, and whatever it's trying to download gets a 404... |
18:11:52 | gevaerts | http://daniel.haxx.se/sansa/mi4.html has some |
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18:12:09 | meermanr | Wonderful thanks! |
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18:24:56 | aidy | shotofadds: are you aware that backlight off on hold doesn't work? |
18:25:20 | shotofadds | aidy: can you describe what you mean a little more? |
18:26:09 | aidy | in 'lcd settings' you can set backlight on hold to 'off' |
18:26:39 | aidy | which should shut the backlight off when you put your player on hold |
18:26:49 | shotofadds | it does, if you wait a few seconds |
18:27:36 | aidy | yes, but it's supposed to go off immediately |
18:27:41 | shotofadds | oh, isee what you mean. "Normal" and "Off" seem to do the same thing... |
18:27:46 | aidy | yes |
18:28:20 | shotofadds | I'll have a look later, I'm in the middle of something right now... |
18:28:39 | aidy | okay np :) |
18:32:13 | shotofadds | aidy: does it do the same in the sim? if so could you maybe try some other targets in the sim to check whether this is a D2 problem or something more general? |
18:33:13 | meermanr | gevaerts: Do you happen to know of a disk-image I can use to restore the flash? The error remains: "System files missing. To restore the system files, connect H10 to recovery tool" |
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18:33:56 | aidy | what's hold for the sim |
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18:34:28 | gevaerts | meermanr: not really. Did you put the H10.mi4 in System/? |
18:35:04 | PaulJam_ | aidy: usually "h" |
18:35:12 | meermanr | Ah :) Well that's easy to try. (Oops, sorry) |
18:35:36 | * | bertrik found another error in the s5l8700 documentation |
18:36:41 | bertrik | I'm starting to consider to add errata to the wiki :/ |
18:37:48 | aidy | shotofadds: the sim does really wierd things, nothing happens if i put it on hold, but once i click the screen it goes black |
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18:39:58 | shotofadds | aidy: that sounds weird. maybe post on the D2 forum thread and see if anyone wants to look into it... btw hold should be 'H' in the sim |
18:40:50 | aidy | yes thanks, i got the little lock displaying and everything |
18:41:01 | aidy | i'll check on the X5 simulator |
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18:45:22 | aidy | same thing happens in the X5 simulator |
18:46:25 | shotofadds | aidy: in that case you should raise a bug report on the tracker |
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18:50:47 | aidy | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/10362?project=1&type=2&order=dateopened&sort=desc&pagenum=2 might be related? |
18:51:30 | shotofadds | I'd raise a separate one, that look like a different problem |
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19:06:40 | aidy | is there somebody that could test something for me |
19:06:45 | aidy | on any target |
19:09:23 | pixelma | depends on what that something is... ;) |
19:09:41 | mcuelenaere | gevaerts: I think I've seen it before (sigmatel SDK) |
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19:10:21 | gevaerts | mcuelenaere: ? |
19:10:35 | aidy | well, on my D2 the backlight doesn't go off when you enable 'backlight off on hold' |
19:10:44 | mcuelenaere | gevaerts: you asked earlier whether the sigmatel SDK on the forums was new |
19:10:52 | gevaerts | I did? |
19:10:57 | aidy | could somebody test this on their player |
19:10:59 | GodEater | aidy: the D2 port isn't finished yet though is it ? |
19:11:08 | aidy | sure |
19:11:15 | aidy | but i want to know if the same thing happens with other players |
19:11:26 | aidy | because there's no reason why it shouldn't work on the D2 |
19:11:39 | shotofadds | aidy: didn't you say you tested this in the X5 sim? |
19:11:47 | shotofadds | and it was broken there too? |
19:11:58 | pixelma | works as expected on my c200 - btw. not all players have backlight or hold switches |
19:12:03 | mcuelenaere | gevaerts: ah sorry, saratoga did |
19:12:13 | * | mcuelenaere misread |
19:12:51 | aidy | shotofadds: but maybe this is a 'feature' or something |
19:12:52 | pixelma | aidy: though I admit I'm not running the very latest build (r21795-090712) |
19:13:18 | * | shotofadds notes that both the X5 and D2 use BACKLIGHT_FADING_SW_HW_REG, whatever that does ;-) |
19:13:31 | * | shotofadds wonders if kugel knows anything more about it |
19:13:56 | pixelma | I think that's backlight fading through setting backlight brightness |
19:14:18 | pixelma | although... not sure |
19:14:54 | shotofadds | yes, that's what it should do, but I'm not familiar with the code |
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19:16:59 | aidy | mcuelenaere: could you test this? |
19:23:44 | meermanr | Does someone here have a (working) iriver H10 I can get a filelisting from? I'm not having any luck guessing which "system files" are missing (and it's preventing me booting my device!) |
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19:28:06 | gevaerts | meermanr: have you seen http://www.misticriver.net/forums/h-10-h-20-series/39007-6g-ums-system-files-missing-restore-system-files-connect-h10.html ? |
19:29:44 | meermanr | .. no idea how I missed that during my search... Thank you, this'll keep me busy a while. |
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19:31:59 | CIA-69 | New commit by rob (r21967): D2: A working read/write SD(HC) driver, based on the PP equivalent. See CowonD2Info wiki for usage notes/restrictions. |
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19:36:24 | pixelma | shotofadds: would an MMC work with the D2 now? |
19:38:07 | shotofadds | pixelma: not currently, as I based the code on the PP driver. but it could be added in future |
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19:47:18 | meermanr | @gevaerts: Thanks for the help (no joy though!) |
19:49:09 | CIA-69 | New commit by gevaerts (r21968): fix ifdef (HAVE_HOTSWAP, not HOTSWAP) |
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19:54:10 | shotofadds | gevaerts: thanks. I somehow managed to miss that one (there were a couple of other instances of the same problem earlier) |
19:54:57 | gevaerts | I should have seen it on friday. I did test on sansa with sd+ramdisk |
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20:00:54 | bertrik | markun, the phy registers in s5l8700 do not match the datasheet, is that intentional? |
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20:01:42 | pixelma | gevaerts: is the problem with the card on boot fixed now? |
20:01:54 | gevaerts | no |
20:03:19 | pixelma | I guess this patch also hasn't been tested on Ondio yet? Especially thinking about the USB bridge specifics on the Ondio |
20:03:45 | gevaerts | not yet, no |
20:04:12 | gevaerts | but it really shouldn't change anything. I really don't understand why sd-on-boot stopped working |
20:04:36 | pixelma | so, I assume I have to do it... |
20:05:09 | gevaerts | unless you manage to dig up another ondio owner somewhere :) |
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20:06:58 | bertrik | markun, hm, it does seem to match up with what the OF does though |
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20:08:53 | mc2739 | why would a build from the current builds page have an "M" revision? r21969M on e200v1 - http://build.rockbox.org/data/rockbox-sansae200.zip |
20:08:55 | * | shotofadds preps another huge delta |
20:09:02 | CIA-69 | New commit by rob (r21969): D2: Enable tagcache database |
20:09:36 | gevaerts | meermanr: it shouldn't... |
20:09:58 | gevaerts | mc2739 I mean |
20:10:25 | mc2739 | that's what i thought. |
20:10:38 | gevaerts | also, r21969 wasn't committed yet |
20:11:08 | mc2739 | sorry, r21698 |
20:11:41 | pixelma | wasn't there something that needed a change for people running build servers with ubuntu (to make it use the correct shell, otherwise it would break builds)? |
20:11:56 | evilnick_home | Looks like it's in the middle of a rebuild, would that affect anything? |
20:11:59 | pixelma | though I don't know if this is still true and applies here |
20:12:26 | mc2739 | evilnick_home: it was downloaded before the new build round started |
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20:15:56 | evilnick_home | mc2739: Hmmm, I've just got r21969M too |
20:16:28 | pixelma | hmm... the rockbox-info.txt says "Red Hat" linux as biuld environment |
20:16:45 | pixelma | or build |
20:17:11 | mc2739 | evilnick_home: yes, it was built on the same build client as the last one - matse-roolku |
20:18:28 | evilnick_home | Welll spotted, by the way :) |
20:19:16 | mc2739 | maybe the build server should do an svn revert on the client to make sure this doesn't happen |
20:23:52 | soap | I was under the impression that builds mistakenly appearing as xxxxxM was not a new issue. |
20:24:47 | Mikachu | one easy way to catch it is make configure abort instead of append the M when the tree is dirty, if you give −−official-build or so |
20:25:22 | pixelma | I was thinking of http://www.rockbox.org/mail/archive/rockbox-dev-archive-2007-06/0011.shtml and following |
20:26:17 | soap | I had forgotten about that as I did the dash/bash swap a long time ago. |
20:28:28 | soap | though I think http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi?view=rev;revision=20039 fixed the problem? |
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20:38:45 | Zagor | I prefer rbclient alerting and aborting rather than automatically reverting |
20:41:06 | mc2739 | Zagor: did you see FS #10450 |
20:41:36 | Zagor | blah, where does rbutil look for builds? |
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20:47:12 | linuxstb | shotofadds: Regarding tcctool, I just cross-compiled it in Debian ("make tcctool.exe") if you have the mingw32 package installed. |
20:48:14 | pixelma | does (could if it doesn't yet) rbclient do an svn up on startup? I know it will update anyway for a new buildround but this way it will be as up to date as all other clients even if it was turned off for a while. |
20:48:57 | shotofadds | linuxstb: that does indeed sound the easiest way. I did get it to build in VC++ 2008, but I had to hack a couple of things and there are almost certainly dependencies on extra DLLs... |
20:51:59 | shotofadds | linuxstb: I don't have mingw32 installed atm, could you possibly build an updated version and ask a Swede to replace the current download? |
20:52:13 | Zagor | pixelma: good idea. I'll add that in the new update. |
20:53:40 | pixelma | nice :) |
20:54:03 | linuxstb | shotofadds: So current SVN is fine? Do we need binaries for other OSes/ |
20:54:04 | linuxstb | ? |
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20:55:47 | shotofadds | yes, the bug I'm talking about was fixed way back at r18787. I'm not sure of the need for other OS binaries, no-one has ever asked for one as far as I know. |
20:55:53 | pixelma | roolku: people were wondering why your "matse" client produces builds with an M in the revision number |
20:56:05 | pixelma | or after ;) |
20:56:17 | roolku | the M was from editing rockboxdev.sh to build the tool chain. Now reverted - sorry |
20:57:58 | CIA-69 | New commit by zagor (r21970): Verify (at startup and before every build) that source tree is unmodified. ... |
20:57:59 | pixelma | why did the script need modifications? I'm just thinking if there is something that needs to be fixed it should be in svn, or? |
20:58:18 | roolku | pixelma: just the install location |
20:58:37 | pixelma | ah, ok |
20:58:38 | roolku | pixelma: not a fix, more a personal choice |
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21:00:24 | gevaerts | roolku: you can set some environment variables for that as well |
21:00:55 | linuxstb | shotofadds: OK... |
21:00:56 | roolku | gevaerts: good to know |
21:00:58 | gevaerts | Zagor: where is the average calculated? |
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21:02:29 | gevaerts | ah wait, I think I see it |
21:03:14 | Zagor | gevaerts: heh, I must have been pretty tired when I wrote that... |
21:03:19 | linuxstb | Zagor: Could you replace http://download.rockbox.org/utils/tcctool-win32.zip with http://linuxstb.cream.org/rockbox/tcctool-win32.zip ? |
21:03:27 | Zagor | linuxstb: sure |
21:03:48 | DarkSpectrum | does anyone have the spec sheet/pin out of the sansa plug? |
21:04:54 | Zagor | linuxstb: done |
21:06:55 | bertrik | DarkSpectrum, I'm pretty sure it's on the wiki |
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21:07:09 | * | DarkSpectrum looked but didnt see it |
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21:07:21 | Zagor | gevaerts: scratch that, I was looking at an old version. do you see anything fishy? |
21:07:29 | linuxstb | Zagor: Thanks. |
21:07:33 | linuxstb | shotofadds: Done! ;) |
21:07:53 | gevaerts | Zagor: not really. Maybe things are correct there are wrong data in the database? |
21:08:25 | bertrik | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SanDiskSansae2x0PortPins |
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21:09:10 | shotofadds | linuxstb: now to do the same with mktccboot ;-) |
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21:09:36 | Dydy | hello |
21:09:36 | gevaerts | although some numbers keep going up. I'd expect wrong data to slowly correct itself |
21:09:55 | Dydy | somebody help me? |
21:10:21 | evilnick_home | Dydy: What is the problem? We can't help unless you tell us where you are stuck |
21:10:29 | linuxstb | shotofadds: Are you trying to make the D2 "supported" or something? |
21:10:43 | Dydy | i want play video files on my ipod |
21:10:59 | Zagor | gevaerts: I think I'll do this another way: a new db table 'rounds' that keep track of who participated in each round (enabling statistics of 0-build clients). I can then use that table to do the rolling average too. |
21:11:07 | Dydy | and i dont know how |
21:11:27 | shotofadds | we discussed this the other day, and using the new loose sense of "supported" the D2 is really not very far off |
21:11:36 | DarkSpectrum | bertrik: ty very much :) |
21:11:42 | evilnick_home | Dydy: Have you followed the instructions here: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginMpegplayer |
21:11:46 | linuxstb | shotofadds: linuxstb.cream.org/rockbox/mktccboot.exe">http://linuxstb.cream.org/rockbox/mktccboot.exe |
21:11:55 | gevaerts | Zagor: sounds good. That will also allow other statistics and checking that we may want later on |
21:11:55 | linuxstb | (can you test?) |
21:12:04 | Zagor | gevaerts: yes |
21:12:09 | shotofadds | at the very least I would like to provide a pre-compiled bootloader and patcher |
21:12:18 | shotofadds | linuxstb: I'll try it in a sec |
21:12:28 | Unhelpful | Dydy: if it's an ipod video, you will be much, much better off for video if you use the apple firmware for that |
21:12:42 | linuxstb | shotofadds: So what's the install process? Take a D2 original firmware, patch it with mktccboot, then perform an OF firmware upgrade? |
21:12:57 | shotofadds | yes, just like it says on the wiki :p |
21:13:47 | Dydy | my videos is .mp4 files |
21:15:33 | evilnick_home | Dydy: Sounds like you'd be better off using the OF for video then. Rockbox can't use the additional chip that Apple use to playback video so performance isn't as good. |
21:16:34 | Dydy | how return to apple firmware only for video? |
21:16:37 | DarkSpectrum | ok next question, does anyone know how the Sansa dock sends play/pause, FF/RW, Volume commands back through the data cable? |
21:16:42 | shotofadds | linuxstb: mktccboot looks good here. |
21:17:10 | shotofadds | although it behaves weirdly if the input file doesn't exist |
21:18:04 | shotofadds | it seems to carry on regardless... hmm, actually it does that in debian too ;) |
21:18:20 | linuxstb | shotofadds: If you want to commit a fix, I can easily rebuild |
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21:18:40 | shotofadds | I'll have a look later. Now is beer time |
21:19:02 | evilnick_home | Dydy: Read the manual |
21:19:23 | Dydy | ok. thk`s |
21:20:22 | mcuelenaere | aidy: test what? |
21:22:00 | aidy | mcuelenaere: if backlight on hold works |
21:22:05 | aidy | backlight off |
21:22:15 | bertrik | gevaerts, even if I can't actual device USB to work, I should at least be able to see some kind of (failed) connect event on the host side, right? |
21:22:34 | mcuelenaere | aidy: where? sim? target? |
21:22:43 | gevaerts | bertrik: I'd expect so, yes |
21:23:16 | aidy | mcuelenaere: both would be best |
21:23:23 | mcuelenaere | aidy: I don't have a D2 |
21:23:44 | aidy | mcuelenaere: i want to see if it happens on other players |
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21:24:00 | aidy | mcuelenaere: here it doesn't work on any sim afaik |
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21:24:15 | mcuelenaere | then it probably doesn't work on target either |
21:25:11 | mcuelenaere | aidy: yes, seems to not affect backlight settings at all |
21:25:41 | aidy | mcuelenaere: on what did you test? |
21:25:47 | mcuelenaere | Onda VX747 |
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21:26:06 | mcuelenaere | but this is apps/ code, so it should be the same for all targets |
21:26:18 | aidy | right |
21:27:03 | aidy | mcuelenaere: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/10451?project=1&type=2&order=dateopened&sort=desc < that's what happens in the sim |
21:27:27 | mcuelenaere | hmm I don't get that |
21:27:41 | mcuelenaere | the backlight just turns off, and it doesn't turn on when pressing the screen |
21:28:32 | aidy | wierd |
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21:28:55 | aidy | so you've got the problem on your player but not the sim? |
21:29:18 | mcuelenaere | haven't tested the sim |
21:29:40 | mcuelenaere | but it looks like the behaviour doesn't change at all when changing that setting |
21:30:04 | TheSeven | hey can anyone point me to the rockbox svn? i just can't find it on the website... |
21:30:12 | mcuelenaere | svn.rockbox.org |
21:30:19 | Dydy | somebody who speack romanian here? |
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21:31:05 | aidy | mcuelenaere: well k i'll make a new bug report |
21:31:57 | TheSeven | mcuelenaere: i get a "moved temporarily" to viewvc.cgi there |
21:32:14 | gevaerts | TheSeven: svn://svn.rockbox.org/rockbox/trunk |
21:32:28 | TheSeven | gevaerts: thanks |
21:32:38 | aidy | i'll just add a comment to the sim bug report |
21:35:24 | gevaerts | mcuelenaere: do you have HAVE_HOTSWAP in your config-ondavx747.h file? |
21:35:49 | linuxstb | TheSeven: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/UsingSVN is a good place to start |
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21:49:17 | rockband | how stable is this software |
21:49:58 | Torne | generally very stable on supported players, work-in-progress targets are not guaranteed to be |
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21:51:29 | rockband | what oppertunities are available for customization? |
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21:52:12 | linuxstb | rockband: Are you talking as a user, or as a developer willing to modify the source code (which is all available to you)? |
21:52:54 | rockband | dev, not the whole code..just more addons |
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21:53:16 | linuxstb | Plugins are relatively easy to write, if you can program in C. |
21:53:24 | Torne | plugins are fairly easy to write and can do most things |
21:53:44 | * | linuxstb wonders what is easier, "relatively easy" or "fairly easy" |
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21:54:18 | linuxstb | rockband: Maybe you will get a more helpful answer if you describe what you want to do. |
21:54:20 | Torne | not really on the same scale :) |
21:54:24 | rockband | I would look more into it.. |
21:54:38 | rockband | i have a few appls on iphone |
21:54:42 | rockband | apps* |
21:55:11 | rockband | i think you guys have a good cpncept |
21:55:17 | rockband | concept* |
21:56:01 | linuxstb | What do you mean? |
21:56:02 | AlexP | We should start a Rockbox app store |
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21:56:12 | AlexP | And invenbt random reasons why things can't go in |
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22:06:37 | aaron424 | I can't boot into the OF of my sansa m250 v4 |
22:07:21 | aaron424 | holding left does nothing, and booting with the hold switch on says "hold switch on, shutting down" |
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22:40:43 | RavoxX | hey |
22:41:07 | RavoxX | is there a hack-version of rockbox for fuzev2? inofficial e.g. |
22:42:56 | gevaerts | not that I know of |
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23:35:34 | bertrik | amiconn, I looked again at how the uda1380 is clocked and still don't understand why it uses the WSPLL for regeneration of the 128fs clock instead of directly using the MCLK |
23:36:18 | bertrik | as far as I can tell, the coldfire targets (h100 and h300) that use it, only use it with sample rates of 11, 22, 44, 88 kHz, which is also the range of the MCLK as far as I understand |
23:37:47 | bertrik | I'll be able to work around that to enable the uda1380 codec driver for use by the meizus, I think |
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23:49:18 | mcuelenaere | gevaerts: I do have it in my local tree (not in SVN) |
23:49:36 | gevaerts | ok, that's not the problem then... |
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23:50:51 | CIA-69 | New commit by kkurbjun (r21971): M666591 (MRobe:500) USB: Driver works without restarting rockbox between connects. |
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23:53:14 | CIA-69 | New commit by rob (r21972): Tidy up error handling in mktccboot |
23:53:38 | shotofadds | linuxstb: hope that meets your approval :p |
23:55:10 | linuxstb | shotofadds: linuxstb.cream.org/rockbox/mktccboot.exe">http://linuxstb.cream.org/rockbox/mktccboot.exe |
23:56:10 | linuxstb | shotofadds: Lots of nice gotos... ;) |