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#rockbox log for 2009-07-19

00:04:47 Join matsl [0] (n=matsl@host-90-233-176-146.mobileonline.telia.com)
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00:09:34mtsaratoga: I'll work on joint_decode now if you haven't already got there.
00:09:46saratogamt: no i haven't been working on it today
00:09:59mtGreat. I'll give it a shot then.
00:10:03saratogamt: are you interested in optimization?
00:10:19saratogai'm wondering if I should do the easy stuff or leave you a chance to learn about it?
00:11:28mtThe latter. :)
00:12:09saratogaok i'll keep that in mind
00:12:18 Join n00b81 [0] (n=n00b81@unaffiliated/n00b81)
00:12:47saratogaone other thing, I noticed that switching the output to 32 bit samples (and therefore changing the output buffer to 32 bits) results in a prefetch abort on ARM, but works fine on the Sim
00:13:05saratogai suspect that theres some kind of alignment issue thats triggered by changing the size of buffers
00:13:16saratogado you have any idea where that might be?
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00:14:16saratogaI'm able to "fix" it by moving things around in memory but thats not a good solution
00:15:32mtI'm not sure. Do you have a patch ?
00:16:05saratogahttp://www.duke.edu/~mgg6/rockbox/cook_output_precision.patch
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00:16:20saratogalet me try it with just the larger buffer but no change to precision to make sure its not some other bug
00:20:22saratogajust doubling the size of outbuf in codecs/cook.c is enough to crash the decoder
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00:21:53mtsaratoga: hmm .. Doesn't 'Prefetch Abort' == executing code at an invalid memory address ?
00:22:16saratogamt: yeah, and the address it gives isn't even memory, so something is badly screwed up
00:22:25aidywhere are the bootloader build instructions again?
00:23:10saratogaaidy: probably somewhere on the wiki, but the process is the same except when prompted you chose "Bootloader" instead of "Normal Build"
00:23:39aidyi get these though /home/adriaan/Programs/source/rockbox/bootloader/show_logo.c:27:33: error: bitmaps/rockboxlogo.h: No such file or directory
00:24:03saratogaaidy: that means something has gone wrong with your build directory and you need to do make clean, or else delete it and rerun configure
00:24:48aidyokay
00:24:53aidyworks now... wierd
00:25:21aidyhow do i do the bootloader patching again?
00:26:08mtsaratoga: Have you tried find_addr ?
00:26:31saratogamt: the addresses it gives me are all nonsense, did you get any that looked real?
00:26:49saratogaaidy: what are you trying to do?
00:27:27aidyput the firmware in the bootloader
00:27:31mtNot yet no.
00:27:41saratogaaidy: ok but which target . . .
00:27:46aidyD2
00:27:57saratogacan't help you with that
00:28:01mtAbout the sample, did you calculate it using the same method you told me about before ?
00:28:18saratogawhich sample is this?
00:28:19mt*sample depth
00:28:22saratogaah ok
00:28:40saratogathe old code shifted it 11 bits, so I assumed that I just needed to increase the current depth by 11 bits
00:29:00saratogaskimming the code it seemed like that was right but I'm not 100% sure
00:29:16saratogai guess I should dump a wav and make sure the volume is the same before and after
00:29:30gevaertsaidy: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CowonD2Info may have what you need
00:30:12aidyohh right
00:30:13aidythanks
00:33:45saratogamt: ok i'm going to head out for a couple hours at least, I'll be on tomorrow
00:34:14saratogathe alignment issue isn't a huge deal but its something we should keep an eye on since who knows what other changes might break playback if we don't fix it
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00:36:02 Quit saratoga ("Page closed")
00:36:15mtsaratoga: Sure. I'm playing around with the 32-bit precision now, so I'm not sure if I'm going to reach joint_decode tonight.
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00:45:54mcuelenaeregevaerts: yeah, it looks ok but it doesn't seem to work
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00:49:20mtIs it normal to get a data abort from a codec at an address in plugin space ?
00:49:52gevaertsmcuelenaere: maybe some careful use of logf() will help? I don't really have an idea
00:50:14mcuelenaerehmm yes, debugging will probably help
00:50:19mcuelenaeremt: not really..
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00:50:49mcuelenaeregevaerts: I already know SD is disk 1, but don't know why
00:51:05mcuelenaereSD should be inited first, and NAND after it according to storage.c
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00:52:30gevaertsmcuelenaere: hm, weird indeed
00:54:41gevaertsmcuelenaere: does it work better if you use only STORAGE_SD?
00:54:59mcuelenaeregevaerts: yep, that gives the intended behaviour
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00:56:59mcuelenaeregevaerts: could the NAND driver handing out invalid partition data somehow got to do with it?
00:57:10mcuelenaere(it just reads raw NAND pages atm)
00:57:38gevaertsmcuelenaere: if it already goes wrong during storage_init(), I don't think it can be that
00:58:01mcuelenaerewhat makes you say it goes wrong during storage_init()?
00:58:17gevaertsthat's where it calls sd_num_drives()
00:58:50 Quit stripwax ("http://miranda-im.org")
00:59:14mcuelenaereyes, and sd_num_drives() returns 1 and assigns 0 to sd_drive_nr
00:59:25mcuelenaerebut somehow the 'real' drive number for the SD card is 1
00:59:37gevaertsah ok. I see what you mean now
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01:00:26gevaertsso storage_drivers[] is wrong?
01:01:55mcuelenaereI'm not sure
01:02:13gevaertsor what do you mean by the 'real' drive number?
01:02:38mcuelenaereI dumped storage_drivers[], and it contains (4 << DRIVER_OFFSET | 0 << DRIVE_OFFSET) & (2 << DRIVER_OFFSET | 0 << DRIVE_OFFSET); does that sound right?
01:03:03mcuelenaeregevaerts: with the 'real' drive number I mean the one passed to disk_mount() & disk_unmount() (needed for hotswapping)
01:03:45gevaertsmcuelenaere: I'd expect (4 << DRIVER_OFFSET | 0 << DRIVE_OFFSET) and (8 << DRIVER_OFFSET | 0 << DRIVE_OFFSET) (4 is SD and 8 is NAND)
01:04:04mcuelenaereah, could be 8 (I just repeated it out of my head)
01:04:07gevaertsmcuelenaere: where do you see this to be 1?
01:04:47mcuelenaeregevaerts: if I do disk_unmount(1) it unmounts the SD card, if I do disk_unmount(0) it doesn't
01:05:07gevaertsah
01:05:28mcuelenaereyep, confirmed
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01:05:52mcuelenaereand 1 doesn't match sd_drive_nr (got from sd_num_drives() )
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01:05:59aidynice
01:06:03aidysd card works
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01:07:12n00b2HackHey!!! I'm writing to u from Venezuela
01:07:21n00b2HackWhats up!!!
01:07:47aidyn00b2Hack: hi, it's spelled 'you'
01:07:51mcuelenaeren00b2Hack: this is an on-topic channel..
01:08:32n00b2HackI Know that, but thanks XD
01:08:34 Nick evilnick_home1 is now known as evilnick_home (n=evilnick@pool-173-52-144-203.nycmny.east.verizon.net)
01:08:49scorcheif you know that, then why did you say it in the first place?
01:11:10n00b2HackWell Forget it, and scuse my bad english. Remember, i'm writing you From Venezuela. The lenguage here is the Spanish
01:11:44krazykitregardless of what language you speak, this channel is about rockbox. please take your not-rockbox conversations elsewhere
01:11:49Mikachudo you have an actual question?
01:13:31n00b2HackYou cant visit http://www.n00b2hack.com.ve and talk about what do you think??
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01:14:13aidylool
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01:15:09rambo!seen dj-fu
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01:15:27n00b2HackRemember, i'm a newbie!
01:15:39gevaertsn00b2Hack: you're not a newbie, you're a spammer. Now go away
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01:16:10aidygevaerts: his site is about rockbox actually
01:16:10aidybut
01:16:27aidyunless someone speaks spanish here he can't do much here
01:17:16gevaertsah, ok. In that case, I do apologise
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01:17:53n00b2HackNo i'm not a spammer. My page it's about rockbox Sansa e200
01:19:36CIA-69New commit by 03gevaerts (r21963): Attempt to add c200v2 builds
01:20:01n00b2Hacki'm working in one theme and i like to know opinions!!!
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01:20:54aidyn00b2Hack: stop using so much exclamation marks
01:21:12n00b2HackOk
01:22:34Ubuntuxer@n00b2Hack: Do you know you can upload your theme here: http://themes.rockbox.org/upload.php
01:22:53mcuelenaereugh, upon first mount disk_mount(0) returns 1, disk_unmount(0) also returns 1 (it's not dismounted from the filebrowser!) but when re-mounting disk_mount(0) returns 0 (even though it's mounted; playing songs works..)
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01:25:55mcuelenaerehuh? disk_unmount(1) & disk_mount(0) gives the intended behaviour..
01:26:20*gevaerts stares at disk.c
01:26:54CIA-69New commit by 03Ubuntuxer (r21964): Replace bitmap menu with a standard menu, add highscore table, save last achieved level and add difficulty (part of FS #10193)
01:29:57mcuelenaerehmm fat_mount() doesn't seem to get called upon remounting
01:30:02gevaertsmcuelenaere: I assume it runs disk_mount_all() during boot?
01:30:16mcuelenaeregevaerts: I guess so
01:30:29gevaertsit should anyway
01:30:34mcuelenaereyep, line 492 at apps/main.c
01:31:49gevaertsthe remount would be the one where disk_mount(0) returns 0, right?
01:32:31mcuelenaerethe remount is when I replug the SD card in (ideally disk_mount(0) should return 1 then)
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01:33:58gevaertsit should, yes. If fat_mount() doesn't get called, either the partition table is weird (which shouldn't be the case here), or get_free_volume() finds nothing
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01:34:43gevaertsor there are read issues, but if it works in single-driver mode that shouldn't be the case
01:35:23aidyis anyone familiar with touch screen code?
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01:35:57aidywhat i want to ask is if the absolute point mode is meant to be useable
01:36:16gevaertsI'd hope so :)
01:36:29mcuelenaereaidy: in most places, yes
01:36:40mcuelenaerewhen a place isn't ported, it automatically switches to grid mode
01:36:57aidybut say in the playing screen
01:37:07aidynothing much happens in absolute point mode
01:37:10aidywhen i press around
01:37:37mcuelenaeregevaerts: fat_unmount() gets called when I call disk_unmount(sd_drive_nr); but the file tree doesn't want to show the unmount though
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01:37:44mcuelenaereaidy: that depends on the WPS
01:37:47mcuelenaerewhat player are you on?
01:38:09aidyD2
01:38:12aidyheh
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01:38:23aidynow it stopped reacting to the touch screen altogether
01:38:33mcuelenaereI think the D2 has a WPS where an on-screen menu gets showed when you press the WPS?
01:38:45mcuelenaerealso it should pause/play when pressing the play/pause button
01:41:46gevaertsmcuelenaere: I really don't see anything that would explain what you're seeing :\
01:41:48aidythe wps i'm using is cabbiev2
01:42:03mcuelenaeregevaerts: neither do I ...
01:42:15*mcuelenaere guesses this is something wrong in his SD driver
01:42:17aidywhich is what was enabled when I installed rockbox
01:43:28gevaertsmcuelenaere: but how could a bug in your SD driver cause disk_unmount() not to work properly, especially when it works on its own?
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01:44:00gevaertsfunman: by the way, now FS #9545 is in, you can start experimenting with more storage cleanups properly :)
01:44:12mcuelenaeregevaerts: dunno, but most of the time when stuff is broken it's due to target-specific code :)
01:44:29funmangevaerts: i thought the function needed for disk storage would be left as stubs?
01:44:35gevaertsmcuelenaere: normally, yes, but the entire multi-driver bit is new...
01:44:35funmanfunctions*
01:45:25gevaertsfunman: if you manage to find a way to get rid of the stubs without adding #ifdefs to the apps/ code, I'm all for it!
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01:46:01funmangevaerts: if the functions are present in the plugin API struct, they have to be defined
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01:46:43funmana potential solution would be to use storage_sleep() in apps/ code, and #define storage_sleep to rb->storage_sleep or (void)0 in plugin.h
01:46:51mcuelenaereaidy: hmm you're right, the D2 's WPS doesn't seem to be adjusted for absolute point mode
01:46:56gevaertsfunman: you could try some of those weird tricks like Unhelpful did for in-core vs pluginlib jpeg
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01:47:37funmangevaerts: can you point me to a specific commit ?
01:47:47mcuelenaereaidy: try porting the WPS over from the Onda and/or M:Robe 500
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01:47:56gevaertsno, sorry. All I know is that there is such code somewhere
01:48:03mcuelenaere(the latter should have a basic OSD when pressing the screen)
01:48:12aidymcuelenaere: is that going to be harder than just changing some coordinates?
01:48:21mcuelenaereaidy: not really
01:48:30aidyokay
01:48:35aidythen i might just try that
01:48:45mcuelenaeredon't forget posting a patch ;)
01:48:55aidysure
01:49:08aidyare those wps's in the source tree?
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01:52:06mcuelenaereaidy: yes, in wps/
01:52:18mcuelenaerelook at the cabbiev2.*.mrobe500 version
01:52:32mcuelenaere(the %T tags are touchscreen area tags IIRC)
01:53:32*mcuelenaere wonders whether 'NOTE: If you boot with an SD card inserted and then remove it, there is currently a bug where you can't access files on the internal NAND either until you insert a card again. Need to look into this...' is related to his bug..
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01:54:10aidyum
01:54:13gevaertshm, could be
01:54:20aidyi should probably build the simulator
01:54:22aidyto test the wps
01:55:30mcuelenaereaidy: if you're on Windows, you can get them from rasher.dk/rockbox/simulator/">http://rasher.dk/rockbox/simulator/
01:55:38aidyi'm not :)
01:55:49gevaertsthen you can't :)
01:56:04aidythe sim only works on windows?
01:56:04mcuelenaerehmm doesn't the build system offer sim builds?
01:56:09aidyyes
01:56:18mcuelenaereno, the ones on rasher site only work on Windows :)
01:56:24mcuelenaererasher's*
01:56:28aidysure
01:56:34gevaertsmcuelenaere: no. They aren't uploaded
01:58:02aidybtw is there a calendar plugin that supports ical files or something like that
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01:59:37mcuelenaereaidy: try the patch tracker
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02:04:20mcuelenaeregevaerts: should the root path on my µSD card be <microSD0>/ or / ?
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02:04:34gevaertshm
02:04:42mcuelenaere(it is /, according to Lua)
02:04:55*gevaerts slaps forehead
02:05:34gevaertshm, wait...
02:05:45gevaertsI think it will turn out to be /
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02:06:05gevaertsWhich also might mean that hotswap is going to behave strangely
02:06:47mcuelenaerewell it currently is /, I'm not sure whether it should be <microSD0>/ when there's only 1 drive (atm)
02:07:05mcuelenaerewhy would hotswap behave strangely?
02:07:12gevaertsVolume 0 is always /
02:07:23mcuelenaerethis is volume 1
02:07:29mcuelenaereuh sorry
02:07:32mcuelenaerevolume 0, you're right
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02:08:39gevaertsI'm not sure, but I suspect that there are some hidden assumptions about volume 0 always being there
02:09:41mcuelenaerehmm making SD volume 1 didn't help
02:10:24gevaertsyou can't, actually. You can make it *drive* 1, but as long as NAND isn't readable, SD will remain volume 0
02:10:47gevaertsyou could try something with ramdisks, but I'm not sure how that will work out
02:11:01mcuelenaereramdisk at drive 0 and SD at 1?
02:11:12Unhelpfulfunman: apps/plugins/lib/wrappers.h contains macro wrappers for *some* core functions, for the purpose of building the same code in core and in pluginlib. if you want to import a core file that needs something that's not in there, you can just add it.
02:11:17mcuelenaerebut doesn't the ramdisk need a valid partition and FAT before boot?
02:12:16gevaertsI *think* you can get around that by booting from SD (same case as with NAND before SD, so that should work), and then using USB to format it
02:12:34gevaertsthen unplug, and you should be running from ramdisk
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02:12:56aidythe simulator binay doesn't get linked because of the SD patches or something http://omploader.org/vMXp5cQ
02:12:58*gevaerts decides to try this on c200
02:13:35mcuelenaereaidy: you have the D2 SD patch applied?
02:14:31aidyyes
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02:15:54mcuelenaeredoes Rockbox support FAT12?
02:16:07gevaertsno
02:16:55gevaertsI use a 24MB ramdisk. FAT16 works well on that
02:16:56mcuelenaerecan you format the ramdisk as FAT32?
02:17:00mcuelenaereah
02:17:21*mcuelenaere only has 16MB of RAM
02:17:39aidythat's huge :O:O:O
02:17:54mcuelenaerenot really, there are targets with 64MB RAM
02:17:57aidynice i have 32
02:18:00aidy:D
02:18:16gevaertsmcuelenaere: playing with mkfs.vfat options may make it work
02:18:19aidyused to be 12 on the X5 i think
02:18:32mcuelenaereaidy: tried compiling without the SD patch?
02:18:44aidymcuelenaere: will do that now
02:19:04*mcuelenaere had that bug too for the VX747
02:19:34aidyhow do force svn to take a clean revision
02:20:01mcuelenaereaidy: try moving the HAVE_MULTIDRIVE etc defines in config-cowond2.h into a #ifdef SIMULATOR block
02:20:28mcuelenaereaidy: svn revert -R -f * should do it
02:20:43mcuelenaereah there's no -f for revert
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02:22:02mcuelenaereaidy: I mean #ifndef SIMULATOR
02:22:05mcuelenaereI meant*
02:22:27aidyya
02:24:32gevaertsmcuelenaere: the ramdisk trick does work to get / to be ramdisk
02:26:23gevaertsmcuelenaere: mkfs.vfat -F 16 -s 1 /dev/<whatever>1
02:26:31gevaertsworks on an 8MB ramdisk
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02:26:59mcuelenaerefirst need to do fdisk
02:27:03gevaertsyes
02:28:42gevaertshm, the sansa sd driver doesn't handle the first_drive bit correctly yet, so this weird setup of mine behaves extra strangely
02:29:28aidymcuelenaere: that didn't work
02:29:40mcuelenaerehm ok this seems to create a subdirectory <microSD1> in my root? (between the other files on my SD card)
02:29:53mcuelenaereis that normal behaviour?
02:30:15aidyread the comments on the patch
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02:30:30gevaertswait, did you also change the order in storage_init()? You need to do that in order to get the ramdisk on volume 0
02:30:52mcuelenaereah no
02:30:57gevaertsAlso, I strongly recommend using USB to put marker files on all drives, so you can recognise them easily :)
02:31:13mcuelenaerehmm I'm getting USB resets now
02:31:22mcuelenaereah my DAP crashed :)
02:31:47*mcuelenaere should add a backlight_on() call to panicf
02:32:15*gevaerts is sure that some people wondered what this ramdisk thing was good for when he added it :)
02:36:36Unhelpfulgevaerts: to speed up build times on our rockbox devices. ;)
02:36:57aidywell the sim builds on a clean tree so i'll use that
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02:37:35mcuelenaeregevaerts: now the µSD card gets properly unmounted, but it doesn't want to remount :)
02:38:13gevaertsmcuelenaere: this is what they call progress :)
02:38:35mcuelenaereyeey, and Rockbox hangs when shutting down :)
02:39:37gevaertsAnyway, you're now in the situation that people had in mind when hotswap was introduced, so it should be easier to track down the bugs
02:41:51aidymcuelenaere: "This probably breaks compiling for the simulator; if so try moving the HAVE_MULTIDRIVE, HAVE_HOTSWAP & NUM_DRIVES defines into a #ifndef SIMULATOR block." - if you do that you get '/home/adriaan/Programs/source/rockbox/firmware/export/config.h:591:2: fout: #error HAVE_MULTIDRIVE needs to have an explicit NUM_DRIVES
02:43:48gevaertsaidy: also move the CONFIG_STORAGE define
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02:50:07aidygevaerts: yay
02:50:12aidyseems to work
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05:02:07mc2739DarkSpectrum: That was the last build from the old build system. RBUTIL may need an update for the new build system, or there may be a problem in the build system.
05:03:34DarkSpectrumoh
05:03:36DarkSpectrumty
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07:08:38FlynDicefunman: (for the logs) Pertains to mmci clocks but sounds similar to pl180(pl181 in fact): http://infocenter.arm.com/help/index.jsp?topic=/com.arm.doc.faqs/ka3476.html
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10:00:38mtamiconn (or anyone else with coldfire targets): Could you test this patch http://www.pastie.org/551034 and then put outpuf in iram and see the speedup ? I got about 4% on a e200v1 (PP5024).
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10:03:57darkhammhey people, i look this http://picasaweb.google.com/peturbox/RockBoxDevcon2009#5349549960278571330
10:04:14darkhammwhat about rockbox on archos av320?
10:05:18scorchethere is a preliminary port in SVN, but it isnt anywhere near "functional"...it just needs someone to work on it (or me to have the time to do it...)
10:06:41pixelmamt: I could try on my M5 but only if you tell me exactly what to do (or give me a full patch). I can compile on my own but not code
10:06:56pixelmaah no
10:07:25darkhammscorche: it's a dream would come true....
10:08:02pixelmamt: the M5 is currently running a battery_bench... although... I would abort it if you find no other tester
10:08:56pixelmadarkhamm: maybe you can find other interested users which are able and willing to help coding
10:09:15martian67http://rationreality.com/2007/09/25/the-chicago-bulls-logo-robot-alien-menace/
10:09:16martian67D:
10:09:25darkhammscorche: what are the main points o f work?
10:09:37scorcheyou mean the main bits to be done?
10:09:43darkhammyes
10:10:37scorchepretty much all of it...
10:13:38mtpixelma: It's not that urgent, I'm working on something else currently, could you ping me when it's done ?
10:14:23pixelmaI expect somewhen tomorrow (arounnd the same time) and then it will need a bit of charging)
10:16:30mtOh ok. I'll just wait then. :)
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14:56:48linuxstblibfaad is just the aac codec. It doesn't handle mp4 parsing at all. So yes, that will be used for both aac-in-mp4 and aac-in-rm
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15:02:36aidydoes anyone know if there's a list of touch screen wps tags?
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15:05:26mcuelenaereaidy: I don't think they're documented
15:05:34mcuelenaereyou'll need to look in the source
15:06:13mcuelenaeresearch for HAVE_TOUCHSCREEN parts in apps/gui/wps_parser.c
15:06:45mcuelenaereaidy: would you be willing to add them to CustomWps?
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15:12:47aidyi'll do that
15:13:12aidyalso, i think using the mrobe touch screen wps on the D2
15:13:16aidyworks
15:13:33aidythe simulator doesn't do anything if you toggle play though
15:14:01funmanFlynDice: thanks for the link on mmci, if you can find a copy of PL181 datasheet that could help (to see how similar it is to the pl180)
15:14:43aidymcuelenaere: is there a tool to generate wps packs? say i want all the images needed for cabbiev2.320x240x16.mrobe500.wps
15:15:07mcuelenaereI don't think so
15:15:19mcuelenaerebut writing a script to do that shouldn't be hard
15:16:48aidybut there should be such a thing already because the correct images get put into the theme directory when you build rockbox for a specific target
15:17:17n1sit's part of the build system
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15:18:18mcuelenaereah, well grep '.bmp' cabbiev2.320x240x16.mrobe500.wps | sed 's/.*|\(.*\.bmp\)|.*/\1/' should give you all the bitmaps
15:18:40funmanhow complex (what kind of tool do you need) is it to measure the frequency of a clock (in the 20-100MHz range) ?
15:19:10funmanWe could measure it on the CLK pin of a µSD card, and relate it to the clocks running on AMS.
15:19:20funmanI suspect the MCLK could be the IDE clock
15:19:41aidymcuelenaere: thanks :)
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15:27:04aidyumm http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/oops/Main/CustomWPS?template=oopsaccessdenied;def=topic_access;param1=change;param2=access%20not%20allowed%20on%20web
15:27:12aidywhen trying to edit any wiki page
15:27:19aidyafter logging in
15:28:00funmanaidy: I can edit fine, what is your wiki name ?
15:28:11aidyAdriaanLeijnse
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15:30:06funmanaidy: now you can edit the wiki (you have to be authorized by a person who already has wiki writing rights)
15:30:36aidyoh ok
15:30:37aidythanks :)
15:31:18mcuelenaereaidy: I just added the %T tag though :)
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15:32:38aidybut there's also Tl
15:33:01aidy349 { WPS_TOKEN_LASTTOUCH, "Tl", WPS_REFRESH_DYNAMIC, parse_timeout },
15:33:07aidynot sure what it's for
15:33:26mcuelenaereyeah, was going to add that; but seems like funman is editing the page
15:33:32aidyok
15:33:35mcuelenaereaidy: # toggle the touchscreen button viewport
15:33:52mcuelenaereit toggles the display of the additional viewport with buttons (the OSD)
15:35:00aidyoh
15:35:50funmanmcuelenaere: sorry i closed the tab, i'll see if i can open it again to remove the lock
15:36:22funmandone
15:36:32aidywhat's the 2.5 in %?Tl2.5<%Vdt|%Vdu>
15:37:10mcuelenaerea timeout I think
15:37:20mcuelenaeresee the description of %mv
15:37:31mcuelenaerethat also uses parse_timeout
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15:39:38*mcuelenaere added Tl to the wiki
15:41:20aidyheh that mrobe wps isn't exactly great
15:41:39funmanwhich (existing) utility could I use to parse a binary file for finding bitmaps ?
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15:41:59funmanin my case, the "hold" bitmap in c200v2 firmware
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15:42:28gevaertsfunman: I'd say a hex dump thing with a very small font, and look for patterns
15:43:02mcuelenaereJdGordon: shouldn't the %T & %Tl tags be in an #ifdef HAVE_TOUCHSCREEN block?
15:43:52bertrikI remember having great tools for recognising bitmaps on the amiga
15:44:06n1sfunman: there's some old tool used for "modding" the OF for the h300 that could do such a thing
15:44:42mcuelenaerefunman: I find http://www.mp4nation.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=2435 very useful (it works under wine)
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15:48:22stripwaxfunman - google for ISE
15:48:45n1shttp://www.cerebus.de/iriver/ supposedly works pretty well too
15:48:55n1s(that's the h300 mod thing)
15:48:56stripwaxhttp://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=+ise+%22image+searching+engine%22&meta=
15:48:57funmanstripwax: mcuelenaere just linked me to it, now I must find something to unrar it (unrar-free doesn't like the file)
15:49:20mcuelenaerefunman: I could zip it for you
15:49:20n1sthe nonfree unrar?
15:49:47funmanmcuelenaere: it would be nice
15:51:18mcuelenaerefunman: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?m0jynyewnoj
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15:55:44funmanthanks, it runs fine
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15:57:08tomcat_hai just installed rockbox 3.2 monster build on my ipod
15:57:12funmanunfortunately it doesn't find any image
15:57:18tomcat_haim trying to get a root playlist with all my music on it
15:57:31tomcat_hahowever i cant find the menu to increase the playlist limit of 10k
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15:58:12n1stomcat_ha: that's a unofficial build by the sound of it, which we can't support, the official build has the setting where the manualk tells you :)
15:58:16mcuelenaerefunman: what format is the image in?
15:58:25tomcat_hai dont find it in the manual :P
15:58:28tomcat_haand its mostly the same
15:58:29funmanmcuelenaere: i don't know, perhaps there is no header at all
15:58:39mcuelenaerethere's no need for a header
15:58:56AlexPtomcat_ha: mostly the same != the same, and unsupported = unsupported :)
15:59:26n1stomcat_ha: http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-h100/rockbox-buildch8.html#x11-1380008.5.5
15:59:55n1sgeneral settings->system->limits
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16:00:14funmanmcuelenaere: like iriver H300 (16 bpp, 5-6-5,
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16:00:32funmani am not sure if it is vertical or horizontal packing
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16:01:08tomcat_haah found it
16:01:10tomcat_hathanks
16:02:00mcuelenaerefunman: can you download the fw somewhere?
16:02:25CIA-69New commit by 03mcuelenaere (r21965): Onda VX747 WPS: add touchscreen areas for shuffle & repeat mode
16:03:24funmanmcuelenaere: http://mp3support.sandisk.com/firmware/c200/c200v203.02.05a.zip
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16:08:21funmanthe H3Mod doesn't run in wine
16:09:08mcuelenaerefunman: 003145F0 looks like some sort of image if you resize to 128 width in 16-bit colors
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16:09:45mcuelenaereno, it's an 32-bit image
16:10:39mcuelenaereit's an image of the sansa
16:12:40funmanmcuelenaere: how do you display raw rgb files ?
16:12:49mcuelenaerefunman: I see several images now
16:12:53mcuelenaerethere are also 16bit images
16:13:20mcuelenaerefunman: open the file, press 16 or 32 in the left column and resize the image with CTRL-RIGHT arrowkey
16:13:32mcuelenaere(see the Size menu for the combo's)
16:13:43funmanoh you mean with ISE,
16:14:27*stripwax recommends ISE
16:14:29mcuelenaereimages seem to start at 0029D2F4
16:14:52stripwaxit's what I used to reverse engineer the iriver H1xx firmware encryption :)
16:17:02funmanthe c200v2 lcd is 132x80
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16:18:01funmani found the lock icons at 0x29D588
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16:18:53funmanthe image format must be different from what ISE assumes
16:20:18mcuelenaereyes the colors are rather weird
16:20:32bertrikI might have a go at enabling USB in the meizu bootloader
16:20:59funmanperhaps byte order is different (i don't know how to reorder rgb channels in ISE)
16:23:22mcuelenaereSettings->Image Modes
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16:23:59funmanI can change channel widths but not order
16:24:30funmansince I have found the images, I can now look at the code, thanks to both of you ;)
16:24:37bertrikgevaerts, what do I need to start/run usb, just call usb_init?
16:24:49funmanthe hold images are at the very beginning of the 1st header block by the way
16:25:03mcuelenaerewell there's byte reverse (CTRL+R), but that isn't any better
16:25:41gevaertsbertrik: usb_init(), and then usb_start_monitoring()
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16:34:11bertrikusb_start_monitoring is not compiled in for some reason
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16:34:46bertrikit depends on USB_FULL_INIT it seems
16:35:21gevaertsah yes, you need to add the meizu to the USB_FULL_INIT set at the top of usb.c
16:39:12funmanstrange because following images are fine (in 140x), except the background color (blue in the OF)
16:40:00bertrikusb-tcc.c will need some work to be able to re-use it for the meizus ...
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16:43:19shotofaddsbertrik: it needs some work to be able to be used on tcc. it's not exactly reliable :/
16:45:58bertrikyay, it compiles ...
16:46:39aidywhat do i do if a plugin says 'not enough memory'?
16:46:56shotofaddsgenerayll stop music playback and try again
16:47:44aidyok works now
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16:48:43aidyshotofadds: i'm on the D2 btw ;)
16:48:56aidyworks pretty good with the SD card as far as i've tried
16:49:27shotofaddsaidy: yeah I read you were trying to get the touchscreen WPS working. I haven't really tried any on that stuff yet, so good luck!
16:49:46shotofaddsI'll commit the SD driver today
16:50:37aidyshotofadds: the mrobe wps works great
16:50:55aidybut the extra 'buttons' are in the middle of the screen
16:51:11shotofaddsyou could move them somewhere else :p
16:51:25aidyi'll make a new one with the touchscreen buttons in the backdrop or something
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16:51:49aidynext to that top bar thingy the cabbie theme has
16:52:05shotofaddsif you make something that looks good, do let us know!
16:53:26aidyi will :)
16:54:20bertrikgevaerts, nothing happens ... (at least it doesn't hang). Is there anything I can do to see if anything USB is going on?
16:55:03bertrikthe interrupt is probably not connected
16:55:10gevaertsbertrik: do you have a proper implementation if usb_detect()?
16:55:30bertrikyes, it calls charger_detected, which is implemented already and works
16:55:52bertrikcharger_inserted I mean
16:56:22gevaertsin that case maybe the interrupt, yes
16:57:07bertrikoh wait, maybe it isn't, was confusing it with charging_state
16:58:16*bertrik wonders how interrupts should be handled with the tcc driver
16:58:52CIA-69New commit by 03kkurbjun (r21966): Jewels: Add graphics for 640x480 screens.
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17:04:37stripwaxWhat device(s) have 640x480 screens?
17:05:26gevaertsmr500
17:05:52stripwaxnice. thanks1
17:05:58*stripwax sighs at his shift key
17:07:20gevaertsand if you thought the ipod video has a bad CPU power / screen size ratio, try the mr500 :)
17:07:51stripwaxyeah, I was going to ask, what's the rockbox full-screen fps like for the mr500?
17:08:39*gevaerts lets kkurbjun answer the detailed questions
17:09:40aidyshotofadds: how does saving work on rockboy (i presume this is a standard screen?) i can write a name but the only way to exit the screen is the power switch, which doesn't save it on a name
17:09:53kkurbjunI'm not sure that it runs at currently, there's dma hardware designed around image manipulation that is currently not used so I think once that is taken advantage of it will be fast than it currently is
17:10:04kkurbjunfaster that is
17:10:21bertrikI did get about 7951 USB interrupts now but can't tell if anything else happened
17:10:42kkurbjunit's not too bad as it stands, games are mostly playable, doom runs reasonable
17:10:49shotofaddsaidy: welcome to the wonders of the on-screen keyboard. it hasn't really been reworked for touchscreen use yet. hold on a sec and I'll check the keymap...
17:11:28kkurbjunthe m:robe 500 can run in 640x480 or 320x240 mode though, the lcd has a VGA na QVGA setting
17:12:12kkurbjunright now it's running QVGA, but I want to get everything working at VGA since it really shows off the screen :-D
17:12:20shotofaddsaidy: a long press of the centre 'button' should do the trick (see apps/keymaps/keymap-touchscreen.c)
17:12:26shotofaddsnot ideal, I knoew
17:12:29shotofadds*know
17:12:52aidywell
17:13:00aidypretty okay for me
17:13:02bertrikI'll try to make the DEBUG macro in usb-tcc do something
17:13:44funmani checked the 13 10-bit ADC channels on my Sansa c200v2, I see no difference when I press the missing buttons
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17:18:01saratogafunman: I think I can measure the SD clock on the e200v2
17:18:09saratogavia its SD connector
17:18:19saratogais that good enough or are there prescalars in the way?
17:19:13funmansaratoga: we don't know which clock source is used, but it should be in the 10-100MHz range
17:20:10saratogathe sd clock presented to the sd card is typically 10-20MHz right?
17:20:22funmansince the timeouts calculations incorrectly assumes pclk, it might explain the data timeouts
17:20:41funmansaratoga: i don't know
17:21:02saratoga"25 MHz for regular cards, and 50 MHz for high-speed cards"
17:21:10saratogaso theres a range of clocks it could be
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17:21:29funmanisn't that the data transfer speed ?
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17:21:38saratogai have a spectrum analyser with a 1GHz bandwidth, so I can try, though i have no idea what hooking that up to the sansa will do
17:21:42funman25 or 50 Mbits/s
17:21:59saratogafunman: its a 4 pin device, so I'd assume transfer speed is MHz/2
17:22:08saratogaerr in Mbyte/s
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17:27:06funmanif you can't put a card in the slot at the same time you might need to modify the code to have the controller always running
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17:28:41shotofaddslinuxstb: do you know how the win32 version of tcctool at http://download.rockbox.org/utils/tcctool/ was built? It appears to be built with MSVC (links msvcrt.dll) yet tcctool.c doesn't build in MSVC due to lack of inttypes.h...
17:29:06shotofaddsI need to get it updated, since it is rather old and still has the bug where the last few bytes of the file might not get sent to the device
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17:30:08gevaertsZagor: I think the average scores look strange
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17:32:28Blue_DudeHi. Does anyone have some insight as to why FS #10199 might cause disk spinups on a h140 target?
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17:35:37saratogafunman: maybe I can via the side pins in this picture, if i can find a probe small enough: http://www.flickr.com/photos/90053035@N00/2494640751/in/set-72157605072639496/
17:35:59Zagorgevaerts: yes. my c3 keeps increasing. it has never achieved what is now its' "average score"...
17:36:39saratogais that sigmatel sdk linked in the forums new?
17:36:52gevaertsindeed. Exactly the same as with rb1 and rb2, and also I guess seattle-jdgordon
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17:37:25gevaertsZagor: did you see that I added the c200v2 to the builds file?
17:38:10pixelmaBlue_Dude: are you sure the disk doesn't "spin up" a bit more often than usual on your e200 as well (do you use a WPS which shows disk activity or the standard status bar)?
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17:40:13Blue_Dudepixelma: To be honest that had never occurred to me. I was thinking it was a peculiarity of HD based DAP's. I don't use a WPS with a disk indicator so I hadn't noticed. I *did* notice more use of CPU boost to keep the buffer full though.
17:40:42pixelmaand "a bit more often" isn't very descriptive I think (and this comment is by Alex Wallis which is a blind user and I think he uses other patches as well, don't want to insult him but)
17:42:05saratogahuh its a DSP only core, so I guess we don't really care anyway
17:43:10Blue_Dudepixelma: He did say that before the patch he didn't experience disk spinups at all with certain playlists, and gets them occasionally afterward. I'm just not sure what would cause them to begin with. Low memory, less file caching, what?
17:44:32Zagorgevaerts: I see it now :)
17:44:56Zagorit's nice that the system is not depending on me or bagder
17:46:07gevaertsit is indeed
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17:46:32gevaertshm, the delta table looks wrong
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17:51:21pixelmakkurbjun: interested in the portrait screen bubbles graphics? Though I'd need to prepare that for the e200 as well then...
17:52:27kkurbjunI am, but at the moment I'm working on getting the rest of the plugins working at 640x480 for the m:robe - I might mess around with bubbles after that, but I would like to get that flashwriter plugin in svn sometime too
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17:53:44pixelmaalright, I put them somewhere to download. Just tell me and I can give you the link
17:57:05saratogakkurbjun: getting the flash writer in would be nice
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18:07:03stripwax__Any objections if I add the 'erase dynamic playlist' warning to pictureflow? Currently it just plays the selected track without warning. Imho pictureflow should let you add/queue/insert/etc into the playlist too; happy to look into adding that if nobody else is working on something similar
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18:10:55meermanrAnyone know how/where I can get a dump of the original firmware for an iriver H10 (6GB)? When you turn it on it claims some files are missing and that use of the iriver recovery tool is required. I found the tool, but it appears to download what it needs from the 'net, and whatever it's trying to download gets a 404...
18:11:52gevaertshttp://daniel.haxx.se/sansa/mi4.html has some
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18:12:09meermanrWonderful thanks!
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18:24:56aidyshotofadds: are you aware that backlight off on hold doesn't work?
18:25:20shotofaddsaidy: can you describe what you mean a little more?
18:26:09aidyin 'lcd settings' you can set backlight on hold to 'off'
18:26:39aidywhich should shut the backlight off when you put your player on hold
18:26:49shotofaddsit does, if you wait a few seconds
18:27:36aidyyes, but it's supposed to go off immediately
18:27:41shotofaddsoh, isee what you mean. "Normal" and "Off" seem to do the same thing...
18:27:46aidyyes
18:28:20shotofaddsI'll have a look later, I'm in the middle of something right now...
18:28:39aidyokay np :)
18:32:13shotofaddsaidy: does it do the same in the sim? if so could you maybe try some other targets in the sim to check whether this is a D2 problem or something more general?
18:33:13meermanrgevaerts: Do you happen to know of a disk-image I can use to restore the flash? The error remains: "System files missing. To restore the system files, connect H10 to recovery tool"
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18:33:56aidywhat's hold for the sim
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18:34:28gevaertsmeermanr: not really. Did you put the H10.mi4 in System/?
18:35:04PaulJam_aidy: usually "h"
18:35:12meermanrAh :) Well that's easy to try. (Oops, sorry)
18:35:36*bertrik found another error in the s5l8700 documentation
18:36:41bertrikI'm starting to consider to add errata to the wiki :/
18:37:48aidyshotofadds: the sim does really wierd things, nothing happens if i put it on hold, but once i click the screen it goes black
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18:39:58shotofaddsaidy: that sounds weird. maybe post on the D2 forum thread and see if anyone wants to look into it... btw hold should be 'H' in the sim
18:40:50aidyyes thanks, i got the little lock displaying and everything
18:41:01aidyi'll check on the X5 simulator
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18:45:22aidysame thing happens in the X5 simulator
18:46:25shotofaddsaidy: in that case you should raise a bug report on the tracker
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18:50:47aidyhttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/10362?project=1&type=2&order=dateopened&sort=desc&pagenum=2 might be related?
18:51:30shotofaddsI'd raise a separate one, that look like a different problem
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19:06:40aidyis there somebody that could test something for me
19:06:45aidyon any target
19:09:23pixelmadepends on what that something is... ;)
19:09:41mcuelenaeregevaerts: I think I've seen it before (sigmatel SDK)
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19:10:21gevaertsmcuelenaere: ?
19:10:35aidywell, on my D2 the backlight doesn't go off when you enable 'backlight off on hold'
19:10:44mcuelenaeregevaerts: you asked earlier whether the sigmatel SDK on the forums was new
19:10:52gevaertsI did?
19:10:57aidycould somebody test this on their player
19:10:59GodEateraidy: the D2 port isn't finished yet though is it ?
19:11:08aidysure
19:11:15aidybut i want to know if the same thing happens with other players
19:11:26aidybecause there's no reason why it shouldn't work on the D2
19:11:39shotofaddsaidy: didn't you say you tested this in the X5 sim?
19:11:47shotofaddsand it was broken there too?
19:11:58pixelmaworks as expected on my c200 - btw. not all players have backlight or hold switches
19:12:03mcuelenaeregevaerts: ah sorry, saratoga did
19:12:13*mcuelenaere misread
19:12:51aidyshotofadds: but maybe this is a 'feature' or something
19:12:52pixelmaaidy: though I admit I'm not running the very latest build (r21795-090712)
19:13:18*shotofadds notes that both the X5 and D2 use BACKLIGHT_FADING_SW_HW_REG, whatever that does ;-)
19:13:31*shotofadds wonders if kugel knows anything more about it
19:13:56pixelmaI think that's backlight fading through setting backlight brightness
19:14:18pixelmaalthough... not sure
19:14:54shotofaddsyes, that's what it should do, but I'm not familiar with the code
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19:16:59aidymcuelenaere: could you test this?
19:23:44meermanrDoes someone here have a (working) iriver H10 I can get a filelisting from? I'm not having any luck guessing which "system files" are missing (and it's preventing me booting my device!)
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19:28:06gevaertsmeermanr: have you seen http://www.misticriver.net/forums/h-10-h-20-series/39007-6g-ums-system-files-missing-restore-system-files-connect-h10.html ?
19:29:44meermanr.. no idea how I missed that during my search... Thank you, this'll keep me busy a while.
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19:31:59CIA-69New commit by 03rob (r21967): D2: A working read/write SD(HC) driver, based on the PP equivalent. See CowonD2Info wiki for usage notes/restrictions.
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19:36:24pixelmashotofadds: would an MMC work with the D2 now?
19:38:07shotofaddspixelma: not currently, as I based the code on the PP driver. but it could be added in future
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19:47:18meermanr@gevaerts: Thanks for the help (no joy though!)
19:49:09CIA-69New commit by 03gevaerts (r21968): fix ifdef (HAVE_HOTSWAP, not HOTSWAP)
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19:54:10shotofaddsgevaerts: thanks. I somehow managed to miss that one (there were a couple of other instances of the same problem earlier)
19:54:57gevaertsI should have seen it on friday. I did test on sansa with sd+ramdisk
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20:00:54bertrikmarkun, the phy registers in s5l8700 do not match the datasheet, is that intentional?
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20:01:42pixelmagevaerts: is the problem with the card on boot fixed now?
20:01:54gevaertsno
20:03:19pixelmaI guess this patch also hasn't been tested on Ondio yet? Especially thinking about the USB bridge specifics on the Ondio
20:03:45gevaertsnot yet, no
20:04:12gevaertsbut it really shouldn't change anything. I really don't understand why sd-on-boot stopped working
20:04:36pixelmaso, I assume I have to do it...
20:05:09gevaertsunless you manage to dig up another ondio owner somewhere :)
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20:06:58bertrikmarkun, hm, it does seem to match up with what the OF does though
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20:08:53mc2739why would a build from the current builds page have an "M" revision? r21969M on e200v1 - http://build.rockbox.org/data/rockbox-sansae200.zip
20:08:55*shotofadds preps another huge delta
20:09:02CIA-69New commit by 03rob (r21969): D2: Enable tagcache database
20:09:36gevaertsmeermanr: it shouldn't...
20:09:58gevaertsmc2739 I mean
20:10:25mc2739that's what i thought.
20:10:38gevaertsalso, r21969 wasn't committed yet
20:11:08mc2739sorry, r21698
20:11:41pixelmawasn't there something that needed a change for people running build servers with ubuntu (to make it use the correct shell, otherwise it would break builds)?
20:11:56evilnick_homeLooks like it's in the middle of a rebuild, would that affect anything?
20:11:59pixelmathough I don't know if this is still true and applies here
20:12:26mc2739evilnick_home: it was downloaded before the new build round started
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20:15:56evilnick_homemc2739: Hmmm, I've just got r21969M too
20:16:28pixelmahmm... the rockbox-info.txt says "Red Hat" linux as biuld environment
20:16:45pixelmaor build
20:17:11mc2739evilnick_home: yes, it was built on the same build client as the last one - matse-roolku
20:18:28evilnick_homeWelll spotted, by the way :)
20:19:16mc2739maybe the build server should do an svn revert on the client to make sure this doesn't happen
20:23:52soapI was under the impression that builds mistakenly appearing as xxxxxM was not a new issue.
20:24:47Mikachuone easy way to catch it is make configure abort instead of append the M when the tree is dirty, if you give −−official-build or so
20:25:22pixelmaI was thinking of http://www.rockbox.org/mail/archive/rockbox-dev-archive-2007-06/0011.shtml and following
20:26:17soapI had forgotten about that as I did the dash/bash swap a long time ago.
20:28:28soapthough I think http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi?view=rev;revision=20039 fixed the problem?
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20:38:45ZagorI prefer rbclient alerting and aborting rather than automatically reverting
20:41:06mc2739Zagor: did you see FS #10450
20:41:36Zagorblah, where does rbutil look for builds?
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20:47:12linuxstbshotofadds: Regarding tcctool, I just cross-compiled it in Debian ("make tcctool.exe") if you have the mingw32 package installed.
20:48:14pixelmadoes (could if it doesn't yet) rbclient do an svn up on startup? I know it will update anyway for a new buildround but this way it will be as up to date as all other clients even if it was turned off for a while.
20:48:57shotofaddslinuxstb: that does indeed sound the easiest way. I did get it to build in VC++ 2008, but I had to hack a couple of things and there are almost certainly dependencies on extra DLLs...
20:51:59shotofaddslinuxstb: I don't have mingw32 installed atm, could you possibly build an updated version and ask a Swede to replace the current download?
20:52:13Zagorpixelma: good idea. I'll add that in the new update.
20:53:40pixelmanice :)
20:54:03linuxstbshotofadds: So current SVN is fine? Do we need binaries for other OSes/
20:54:04linuxstb?
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20:55:47shotofaddsyes, the bug I'm talking about was fixed way back at r18787. I'm not sure of the need for other OS binaries, no-one has ever asked for one as far as I know.
20:55:53pixelmaroolku: people were wondering why your "matse" client produces builds with an M in the revision number
20:56:05pixelmaor after ;)
20:56:17roolkuthe M was from editing rockboxdev.sh to build the tool chain. Now reverted - sorry
20:57:58CIA-69New commit by 03zagor (r21970): Verify (at startup and before every build) that source tree is unmodified. ...
20:57:59pixelmawhy did the script need modifications? I'm just thinking if there is something that needs to be fixed it should be in svn, or?
20:58:18roolkupixelma: just the install location
20:58:37pixelmaah, ok
20:58:38roolkupixelma: not a fix, more a personal choice
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21:00:24gevaertsroolku: you can set some environment variables for that as well
21:00:55linuxstbshotofadds: OK...
21:00:56roolkugevaerts: good to know
21:00:58gevaertsZagor: where is the average calculated?
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21:02:29gevaertsah wait, I think I see it
21:03:14Zagorgevaerts: heh, I must have been pretty tired when I wrote that...
21:03:19linuxstbZagor: Could you replace http://download.rockbox.org/utils/tcctool-win32.zip with http://linuxstb.cream.org/rockbox/tcctool-win32.zip ?
21:03:27Zagorlinuxstb: sure
21:03:48DarkSpectrumdoes anyone have the spec sheet/pin out of the sansa plug?
21:04:54Zagorlinuxstb: done
21:06:55bertrikDarkSpectrum, I'm pretty sure it's on the wiki
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21:07:21Zagorgevaerts: scratch that, I was looking at an old version. do you see anything fishy?
21:07:29linuxstbZagor: Thanks.
21:07:33linuxstbshotofadds: Done! ;)
21:07:53gevaertsZagor: not really. Maybe things are correct there are wrong data in the database?
21:08:25bertrikhttp://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SanDiskSansae2x0PortPins
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21:09:10shotofaddslinuxstb: now to do the same with mktccboot ;-)
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21:09:36Dydyhello
21:09:36gevaertsalthough some numbers keep going up. I'd expect wrong data to slowly correct itself
21:09:55Dydysomebody help me?
21:10:21evilnick_homeDydy: What is the problem? We can't help unless you tell us where you are stuck
21:10:29linuxstbshotofadds: Are you trying to make the D2 "supported" or something?
21:10:43Dydy i want play video files on my ipod
21:10:59Zagorgevaerts: I think I'll do this another way: a new db table 'rounds' that keep track of who participated in each round (enabling statistics of 0-build clients). I can then use that table to do the rolling average too.
21:11:07Dydyand i dont know how
21:11:27shotofaddswe discussed this the other day, and using the new loose sense of "supported" the D2 is really not very far off
21:11:36DarkSpectrumbertrik: ty very much :)
21:11:42evilnick_homeDydy: Have you followed the instructions here: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginMpegplayer
21:11:46linuxstbshotofadds: linuxstb.cream.org/rockbox/mktccboot.exe">http://linuxstb.cream.org/rockbox/mktccboot.exe
21:11:55gevaertsZagor: sounds good. That will also allow other statistics and checking that we may want later on
21:11:55linuxstb(can you test?)
21:12:04Zagorgevaerts: yes
21:12:09shotofaddsat the very least I would like to provide a pre-compiled bootloader and patcher
21:12:18shotofaddslinuxstb: I'll try it in a sec
21:12:28UnhelpfulDydy: if it's an ipod video, you will be much, much better off for video if you use the apple firmware for that
21:12:42linuxstbshotofadds: So what's the install process? Take a D2 original firmware, patch it with mktccboot, then perform an OF firmware upgrade?
21:12:57shotofaddsyes, just like it says on the wiki :p
21:13:47Dydymy videos is .mp4 files
21:15:33evilnick_homeDydy: Sounds like you'd be better off using the OF for video then. Rockbox can't use the additional chip that Apple use to playback video so performance isn't as good.
21:16:34Dydyhow return to apple firmware only for video?
21:16:37DarkSpectrumok next question, does anyone know how the Sansa dock sends play/pause, FF/RW, Volume commands back through the data cable?
21:16:42shotofaddslinuxstb: mktccboot looks good here.
21:17:10shotofaddsalthough it behaves weirdly if the input file doesn't exist
21:18:04shotofaddsit seems to carry on regardless... hmm, actually it does that in debian too ;)
21:18:20linuxstbshotofadds: If you want to commit a fix, I can easily rebuild
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21:18:40shotofaddsI'll have a look later. Now is beer time
21:19:02evilnick_homeDydy: Read the manual
21:19:23Dydyok. thk`s
21:20:22mcuelenaereaidy: test what?
21:22:00aidymcuelenaere: if backlight on hold works
21:22:05aidybacklight off
21:22:15bertrikgevaerts, even if I can't actual device USB to work, I should at least be able to see some kind of (failed) connect event on the host side, right?
21:22:34mcuelenaereaidy: where? sim? target?
21:22:43gevaertsbertrik: I'd expect so, yes
21:23:16aidymcuelenaere: both would be best
21:23:23mcuelenaereaidy: I don't have a D2
21:23:44aidymcuelenaere: i want to see if it happens on other players
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21:24:00aidymcuelenaere: here it doesn't work on any sim afaik
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21:24:15mcuelenaerethen it probably doesn't work on target either
21:25:11mcuelenaereaidy: yes, seems to not affect backlight settings at all
21:25:41aidymcuelenaere: on what did you test?
21:25:47mcuelenaereOnda VX747
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21:26:06mcuelenaerebut this is apps/ code, so it should be the same for all targets
21:26:18aidyright
21:27:03aidymcuelenaere: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/10451?project=1&type=2&order=dateopened&sort=desc < that's what happens in the sim
21:27:27mcuelenaerehmm I don't get that
21:27:41mcuelenaerethe backlight just turns off, and it doesn't turn on when pressing the screen
21:28:32aidywierd
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21:28:55aidyso you've got the problem on your player but not the sim?
21:29:18mcuelenaerehaven't tested the sim
21:29:40mcuelenaerebut it looks like the behaviour doesn't change at all when changing that setting
21:30:04TheSevenhey can anyone point me to the rockbox svn? i just can't find it on the website...
21:30:12mcuelenaeresvn.rockbox.org
21:30:19Dydysomebody who speack romanian here?
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21:31:05aidymcuelenaere: well k i'll make a new bug report
21:31:57TheSevenmcuelenaere: i get a "moved temporarily" to viewvc.cgi there
21:32:14gevaertsTheSeven: svn://svn.rockbox.org/rockbox/trunk
21:32:28TheSevengevaerts: thanks
21:32:38aidyi'll just add a comment to the sim bug report
21:35:24gevaertsmcuelenaere: do you have HAVE_HOTSWAP in your config-ondavx747.h file?
21:35:49linuxstbTheSeven: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/UsingSVN is a good place to start
21:36:47Dydybye all and tnx
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21:49:17rockbandhow stable is this software
21:49:58Tornegenerally very stable on supported players, work-in-progress targets are not guaranteed to be
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21:51:29rockbandwhat oppertunities are available for customization?
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21:52:12linuxstbrockband: Are you talking as a user, or as a developer willing to modify the source code (which is all available to you)?
21:52:54rockbanddev, not the whole code..just more addons
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21:53:16linuxstbPlugins are relatively easy to write, if you can program in C.
21:53:24Torneplugins are fairly easy to write and can do most things
21:53:44*linuxstb wonders what is easier, "relatively easy" or "fairly easy"
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21:54:18linuxstbrockband: Maybe you will get a more helpful answer if you describe what you want to do.
21:54:20Tornenot really on the same scale :)
21:54:24rockbandI would look more into it..
21:54:38rockbandi have a few appls on iphone
21:54:42rockbandapps*
21:55:11rockbandi think you guys have a good cpncept
21:55:17rockbandconcept*
21:56:01linuxstbWhat do you mean?
21:56:02AlexPWe should start a Rockbox app store
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22:07:21aaron424holding left does nothing, and booting with the hold switch on says "hold switch on, shutting down"
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22:40:43RavoxXhey
22:41:07RavoxXis there a hack-version of rockbox for fuzev2? inofficial e.g.
22:42:56gevaertsnot that I know of
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23:35:34bertrikamiconn, I looked again at how the uda1380 is clocked and still don't understand why it uses the WSPLL for regeneration of the 128fs clock instead of directly using the MCLK
23:36:18bertrikas far as I can tell, the coldfire targets (h100 and h300) that use it, only use it with sample rates of 11, 22, 44, 88 kHz, which is also the range of the MCLK as far as I understand
23:37:47bertrikI'll be able to work around that to enable the uda1380 codec driver for use by the meizus, I think
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23:49:18mcuelenaeregevaerts: I do have it in my local tree (not in SVN)
23:49:36gevaertsok, that's not the problem then...
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23:50:51CIA-69New commit by 03kkurbjun (r21971): M666591 (MRobe:500) USB: Driver works without restarting rockbox between connects.
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23:53:14CIA-69New commit by 03rob (r21972): Tidy up error handling in mktccboot
23:53:38shotofaddslinuxstb: hope that meets your approval :p
23:55:10linuxstbshotofadds: linuxstb.cream.org/rockbox/mktccboot.exe">http://linuxstb.cream.org/rockbox/mktccboot.exe
23:56:10linuxstbshotofadds: Lots of nice gotos... ;)

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