#rockbox 2009-08-06

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#rockbox log for 2009-08-06

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00:00:09	linuxstb	No problem then - flyspray is a task tracker...
00:00:19	brn2dth	join brn2dth 6143736221
00:00:19	DarkSpectrum	almost the same thing
00:00:38	DarkSpectrum	brn2dth: having issues?
00:00:38	brn2dth	shit!
00:00:53	*	linuxstb steals brn2dth's identity
00:01:47	brn2dth	help...!
00:01:54	DarkSpectrum	whats up?
00:02:12	brn2dth	now, how i chance my pass?? :(
00:02:28	DarkSpectrum	on services?
00:02:33	Mikachu	/msg nickserv help
00:02:44	DarkSpectrum	/msg nickserv help setpass
00:03:10	JdGordon\|	DarkSpectrum: sweet, whack it on flyspray when its ready for review...
00:03:14	JdGordon\|	how far did you get?
00:03:18	DarkSpectrum	np
00:03:46	DarkSpectrum	all radio related stuff moved to /apps/radio
00:04:55	DarkSpectrum	i just compiled with 22175 and no warnings, works on my my sansa c&e, just a few more things left to tweek/move
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00:05:28	JdGordon\|	ah, cleanup only?
00:06:23	DarkSpectrum	so far, don't worry i'm working on the other things as well, like i said awhile ago, 1st part :)
00:07:13	DarkSpectrum	BTW... i hate you people!! :P
00:07:35	DarkSpectrum	you all made me go back to running BSD on my other box to make it easier to work on this
00:09:51	JdGordon\|	:)
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00:14:19	brn2dth	SET PASSWORD
00:14:47	brn2dth	nop... i dont understand...
00:14:48	DarkSpectrum	try /nickserv setpass OldPassword Newpassword
00:15:43	linuxstb	brn2dth: And best to type commands in the server window, not a channel (in case you make another typo)
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00:16:53	brn2dth	sorry... first time on IRC :(
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00:17:09	DarkSpectrum	then checkout www.irchelp.org
00:21:44	krazykit	but all of this is offtopic for tihs channel...
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00:28:16	brn2dth	uff... ok... sorry about that
00:28:46	brn2dth	ive a question...
00:29:31	brn2dth	its possible enable WPS on Philips SA9200??
00:29:41	linuxstb	What do you mean?
00:30:54	brn2dth	i compile the code... with most plugins... include jpeg... but WPS not working
00:31:25	linuxstb	You mean you can't play any audio files?
00:31:53	brn2dth	i can... but the .wps files not work...
00:32:38	linuxstb	Which ones are you trying?
00:33:27	brn2dth	all
00:33:56	brn2dth	ive use the r22175...
00:33:57	pixelma	where did you get them from?
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00:34:06	linuxstb	The LCD is 128x160 pixels - you need ones designed for that size (I don't think there are any...)
00:34:08	brn2dth	rockbox.org extras
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00:34:31	linuxstb	That seems a unique LCD resolution amongst Rockbox targets.
00:35:46	brn2dth	you mean.. that need more support in part of code?
00:36:02	linuxstb	No, that there are no suitable themes.
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00:36:25	pixelma	there isn't even more than the old default that comes with a build
00:36:29	brn2dth	ok.. just need make a .wps...
00:36:45	pixelma	currently
00:36:48	brn2dth	??
00:37:06	linuxstb	brn2dth: Yes. It would be great if you could adapt the default theme to work on the sa9200 - cabbiev2
00:39:34	linuxstb	brn2dth: This is just editing the .wps file (a plain text file) and creating any necessary images.
00:39:47	linuxstb	(no C programming needed)
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00:52:51	kugel	JdGordon\|: ping
00:52:58	JdGordon\|	pong
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00:53:51	kugel	JdGordon\|: what were the other things you didn't like but didn't mention?
00:54:20	kugel	w.r.t. the backdrop api thing
00:54:46	JdGordon\|	I was umming and uhing about a few things... namely the names, but also why a type was needed for unload... but i tinhk i it does make snese?
00:56:28	kugel	what do you mean with "a type for unload"?
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00:56:51	JdGordon\|	the backdrop_unload() func or whatver its called...
00:56:59	JdGordon\|	i was tihnking that it should know which was the last one loaded
00:57:59	kugel	you can unload the main or wps backdrop
00:59:28	kugel	so yes, it does make sense
00:59:46	kugel	and I think the names are good
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01:07:33	JdGordon\|	(going from memory...)
01:07:43	JdGordon\|	you can only ave one backdrop loaded at once right?
01:07:50	kugel	no
01:08:10	*	JdGordon\| is probably being confused by the word loaded then
01:08:15	kugel	you can only show one at a time, but both backdrops are always in memory
01:08:35	kugel	load makes perfect sense imo
01:08:50	linuxstb	Do you mean load from disk?
01:09:00	kugel	yea
01:09:22	JdGordon\|	I'm thinking load into the lcd driver which is where the confusion obviously is
01:09:30	JdGordon\|	so its a non issue
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01:10:12	kugel	JdGordon\|: which remines me: why does gui_sync_wps_init() unload the backdrop?
01:10:17	kugel	the wps one
01:11:13	JdGordon\|	so the new wps doesnt use the old ones backdrop if none is specified?
01:11:59	linuxstb	How is all this different to the set_backdrop and clear_backdrop functions that already exist?
01:12:14	linuxstb	I mean why the new names?
01:13:29	kugel	linuxstb: set_ and clear_ are lcd driver functions, load_, show_ and unload_ are apps/ functions
01:15:22	kugel	set_backdrop sets the main backdrop framebuffer location, and clear_backdrop...I can't find that function
01:16:38	linuxstb	I must have imagined it then, - it will just be set_backdrop(NULL)
01:16:41	kugel	and backdrop_show calls lcd_set_backdrop
01:18:24	kugel	JdGordon\|: I just see that it's only called in main.c
01:18:37	JdGordon\|	which?
01:21:04	kugel	gui_sync_wps_init
01:22:34	JdGordon\|	wtf does that fucntion do? ... this is why the cleanup is happening....
01:22:48	JdGordon\|	the wps gets initied in settings_apply()...
01:23:09	JdGordon\|	there shuold be a wps_init() in main somewhere to fix up the state struct, but not for the skin part of it
01:23:51	kugel	it does only do that, basically
01:24:07	JdGordon\|	and random brain dump... I'm wondering if the state part shuold be removed from gui_wps/skin struct... either split up into global_status, or made completly seperate
01:24:14	JdGordon\|	ok
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01:24:59	kugel	though, main.c should probably have a skin_init() call, which does skin init (if there is one) and calling the screen's inits
01:25:50	JdGordon\|	there probably will be one, but not yet... the skin engine doesnt have an init just yet
01:26:22	kugel	not sure about the state part
01:28:04	kugel	the wps_time_countup member seems totally unneeded
01:29:02	JdGordon\|	the id3 and nid3 could be put in global_status for sure... senseless having that for the wps only
01:29:26	kugel	it's never set (wtf) and checked only once
01:29:28	JdGordon\|	seen as they are safe to use now without calling audio_current/next()
01:29:32	JdGordon\|	nice
01:29:34	JdGordon\|	remove it :)
01:29:39	JdGordon\|	when is it checked?
01:29:57	kugel	while rewinding&ff'ing
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01:30:57	JdGordon\|	you shuold probaly check some svn changes and see why it was removed.... it might have some bugs because of it
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01:32:13	kugel	why me? :'(
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01:34:48	JdGordon\|	your prize for finding it :)
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01:46:04	kugel	I haven't the slightest idea what it could be meant for, except for indicating the ff/rew direction
01:46:43	kugel	wps_data_load really looks ok now
01:47:08	kugel	was so ugly, it hurt my eyes
01:47:21	JdGordon\|	:)
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02:11:08	AsaelReiter	Hi
02:13:33	AsaelReiter	I rewriting some parts of brickmania, and I wonder how much powerups can fall simultaneously.
02:14:23	AsaelReiter	Do you think that 10 is enough?
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02:14:47	CIA-6	New commit by kugel (r22176): Add backdrop functions to the multiscreen api and add a enum backdrop_type parameter for different backdrops (main, wps), symplifying calls and ...
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02:19:55	*	JdGordon_ wonders abit about gui_wps_display()
02:23:42	linuxstb	kugel: Interesting range of deltas...
02:24:03	kugel	weeh
02:24:41	kugel	something went wrong
02:25:13	kugel	testing h300 sim for remotes isn't enough :(
02:27:44	JdGordon_	what the heck happened with the deltas? some got backdrops enabled and some disabled?
02:28:05	linuxstb	kugel: In backdrop.c, you've used [LCD_FBHEIGHT][LCD_FBHEIGHT]
02:28:26	kugel	yep, I already saw that. I'm wondering about the deltas of greyscales though
02:29:21	kugel	landscape should "win", but the greyscales loss there
02:30:06	kugel	stupid last minute typos !!! :(
02:30:37	linuxstb	Remember that greyscale is four pixels per byte...
02:31:25	JdGordon_	you kept the bdrop var names :<
02:31:50	linuxstb	kugel: The ipods are horizontally packed, so the framebuffer is LCD_WIDTH/4 wide, so in effect it's portrait.
02:32:56	JdGordon_	ah, bad copy pastes..... [LCD_FBHEIGHT][LCD_FBHEIGHT]
02:33:09	kugel	linuxstb: alright, I didn't know that
02:34:39	JdGordon_	the lcd format doesnt matter here... the array is fb_dataFBWIDTHFBHEIGHT
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02:37:55	CIA-6	New commit by kugel (r22177): Fix iaudio reds and crazy deltas, both caused by stupid typos.
02:39:30	kugel	JdGordon_: the question was why greyscale (or, greyscale ipods) lost instead of win, because landscape should win due to that
02:40:42	kugel	JdGordon_: why did you wonder?
02:41:09	JdGordon_	where it belongs...
02:42:12	kugel	I think we really only know where stuff belongs if/when we get another skin screen
02:42:25	JdGordon_	i tinhk the sooner we get another screen using skin the better
02:42:33	JdGordon_	... snap
02:42:38	JdGordon_	WHEN
02:42:38	kugel	:D
02:42:44	JdGordon_	no ifs... its going to happen
02:43:37	JdGordon_	how is skin_* gonig re globals?
02:43:46	JdGordon_	even file scoped globals
02:44:11	kugel	hmm what?
02:44:16	JdGordon_	dw
02:44:35	kugel	I've successfully hidden the real deltas, at least
02:45:03	kugel	ahhhhhh
02:45:39	kugel	I compiled that m5/x5, but I didn't wait for linking
02:45:52	JdGordon_	the way the bmp filenames are stored is giong to cause problems.... thats a good thing to play with next if you want... :D
02:46:11	JdGordon_	they are put in a buffer which is only needed during load
02:46:13	JdGordon_	iirc
02:46:25	JdGordon_	hmm... so maybe thats ok to keep as is
02:46:42	JdGordon_	we can only ever be in the proccess of loading one .skin(!) at a time
02:48:10	CIA-6	New commit by kugel (r22178): Correct yet another typo causing reds and greater shame on me.
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02:50:05	kugel	JdGordon_: we probably want your malloc^H^H^H^H^H^Hwps memory overhaul patch for that
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02:50:52	JdGordon_	yes and no..
02:51:51	JdGordon_	hmm... actually, i think they are pointers straight into the .wps buffer so they dont waste any reasl space..
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02:52:59	*	JdGordon_ wants to get the whole system down to 3 external skin functions.... load, display/update, and umm... load
02:53:28	kugel	good luck :p
02:54:13	JdGordon_	are any more needed?
02:55:00	kugel	I don't think so
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02:58:52	n9xvt	heres one for ya,,is there a boot loader newer than 5.0? would there be ant advantage to upgradeing?
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03:00:24	kugel	talking about sansas?
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03:01:30	n9xvt	yeppers c240 series,,am running todays build of rockbox but havn't re-done bootloader in like ages
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03:03:11	kugel	then yes
03:03:38	kugel	6.0, featuring a nice bootlogo and not booting the OF if you turn it on with the usb cable
03:04:15	n9xvt	kewl,,i remeber when i first heard about rockbox,,let me say "baby you've came a long way"!!
03:08:13	CIA-6	New commit by kugel (r22179): Move this call a bit up so that wpses without backdrop show none properly (the main backdrop).
03:09:30	*	JdGordon slaps kugel
03:09:38	JdGordon	thats the typo i told you about in the email
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03:10:20	kugel	read the commit message, the last 4 words :)
03:11:41	kugel	i totally forgot that point of your email
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03:12:41	JdGordon	obviously :)
03:13:08	JdGordon	i assume your about done for this evening?
03:13:28	JdGordon	I'm giong to look into cleaning up the bmp filename thing tonight
03:13:39	JdGordon	... hopefully
03:19:54	kugel	JdGordon: what's the problem with them?
03:21:48	n9xvt	ok,,i pulled down the latest rbutil,,told it to do a complete install,,boot loader still says 5.0..does boot fine,,
03:23:26	kugel	rbutil needs updating I think
03:24:00	kugel	the bootloader installation is built-in, and the new bootloaders have been released quite recently
03:25:36	kugel	n9xvt: download sansapatcher for your OS here and do it manually as described in the manual http://download.rockbox.org/pp-bootloaders/sandisk-sansa/sansapatcher/
03:28:17	n9xvt	sweet
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03:28:44	linuxstb	kugel: I think it's simply that the bootloaders are still in the wrong place...
03:28:54	n9xvt	yeah rockbox has matured guite nicely!!
03:29:51	kugel	linuxstb: IIRC rbutil compiles sansapatcher in
03:30:07	linuxstb	kugel: Yes, but not the actual bootloaders.
03:30:49	kugel	where are the actual bootloaders?
03:31:10	linuxstb	Same URL you pasted, but remove "pp-"
03:32:02	kugel	there's no 6.0 bootloader
03:32:13	n9xvt	as i have tried to install a patch and not had any luck,,is there any way to ask to have a patch incorporated into daily build?
03:32:33	linuxstb	kugel: I know, that's my point... They were put in pp-bootloaders, instead of bootloaders
03:32:34	n9xvt	my boot loader now says 6.0
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03:33:46	kugel	linuxstb: I asked where they are, not were they're supposed to be. but nevermind, I found them
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03:38:44	n9xvt	also any clue how many people are using rockbox? by the way the patch i'm interested in is fs#9088
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03:46:20	linuxstb	n9xvt: I don't think so no. There are currently 23017 members of the forum though...
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04:54:32	brn2dth	anyone knows if SA9200 has support for mpg?
04:55:45	linuxstb	brn2dth: No, I don't think it does yet (looking at the code) - it's missing the required function in the lcd driver.
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05:00:58	brn2dth	that this function would be? cuz sound works fine....
05:02:35	brn2dth	the plugin compiles fine...
05:03:50	brn2dth	you try it?
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05:45:39	barry	Hi, I think I just bricked my ipod while trying to install a bootloader
05:46:29	barry	$ sudo ./ipodpatcher /dev/sdb -a rockbox.ipod
05:46:29	barry	ipodpatcher v3.0 with v3.0 bootloaders - (C) Dave Chapman 2006-2007
05:46:29	barry	This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There is NO
05:46:29	DBUG	Sent KICK barry to server
05:46:29	barry	warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
05:46:29	barry	[INFO] Reading partition table from /dev/sdb
05:46:30	Kick	(#rockbox barry :No flooding!) by logbot!n=bjst@rockbox/bot/logbot
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05:46:48	barry	[INFO] Reading original firmware...
05:46:52	barry	[INFO] Wrote 8220672 bytes to firmware partition
05:46:54	barry	[INFO] Bootloader rockbox.ipod written to device.
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05:47:10	barry	hi
05:47:43	JdGordon	i doubt you did...
05:48:22	barry	I just get the apple logo now, and no usb connection to pc
05:48:46	JdGordon	how did you do that?
05:49:14	barry	I had upgraded the ipod video 5.5g to a 240gb drive from apricorn
05:49:19	barry	apple firmware works
05:49:34	barry	compiled rockbox with the changes for the lba48 support
05:49:46	barry	and ran $ sudo ./ipodpatcher /dev/sdb -a rockbox.ipod
05:50:49	barry	the instructions on the web site said ipodpatcher is interactive, but it didn't seem to be installing anything without adding options
05:51:06	JdGordon	without -a it is interactive...
05:51:23	JdGordon	it might have issues with the big disk
05:51:29	*	JdGordon has no idea about this stuff
05:51:36	barry	hmm
05:51:36	JdGordon	probably best to try the forums
05:51:40	barry	ok
05:51:44	iNobue	Quick question barry.
05:51:54	barry	sure
05:51:55	iNobue	How did you upgrade from the 5.5 to 240?
05:51:59	iNobue	Is it external some how?
05:52:20	barry	apricorn is selling an upgrade kit with a 1.8" toshiba 240gb drive
05:52:29	barry	do you think it's bricked now?
05:52:29	iNobue	Oooo.
05:53:20	iNobue	I'm in the same position as JdGordon. But I think you will a fix for it.
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06:02:07	kadoban	i notice that the file extension of the default save for goban plugin was changed to ".save". this seems a bit odd since it's actually a standard format which universally has a ".sgf" extension. not really a big deal, but minorly annoying since i often transfer those files to my computer ( kkurbjun: are you available to discuss it for a moment?)
06:04:03	TruthTaco	speaking of the go plugin, i love it!
06:04:35	kadoban	ah, cool :) me too, but i'm biased (i wrote it)
06:06:35	TruthTaco	wow nice, i was supprised at how well it was done, and how many options it had when i first tried it :)
06:07:29	iNobue	Go Plugin? D:
06:07:31	kadoban	heh, yeah it was originally really simple, but one tester kept requesting good features
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06:09:53	TSS_Killer	ok...I have a little dilemma here
06:10:19	TSS_Killer	I tried to install the dualboot loader on a Gigabeat S30 and it bricked (frozen bootscreen)
06:10:55	TSS_Killer	it doesn't even load any status bars, it's just hangs at the gigabeat logo
06:11:52	JdGordon	ej0rge: able to help him?
06:12:43	TSS_Killer	and no, unplugging the battery and HDD didn't work
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06:13:17	TSS_Killer	and none of the "recovery" button holding techniques worked either
06:14:01	*	TSS_Killer will idle here all night anyway
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06:17:45	JdGordon	TSS_Killer: yeah, this is a bad time for support... best try the forums
06:17:57	TSS_Killer	I figured...
06:18:33	TSS_Killer	it's ok, I'll post on the fourms and I'll check back here later on...
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06:33:39	CIA-6	New commit by jdgordon (r22180): more wps->skin moving/renaming
06:38:11	ej0rge	whahuh?
06:38:55	ej0rge	TSS_Killer: have you tried recovery mode?
06:39:03	ej0rge	oh wait, yes you have
06:39:36	ej0rge	TSS_Killer: I've never seen one bricked like that. I assume you've tried switching the battery off and on and trying recovery mode again?
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06:43:10	ej0rge	TSS_Killer: If it were me in that situation, the next thing I'd try is to disconnect the harddrive and see if it boots to error 5
06:45:07	TSS_Killer	I disconnected the HDD and it was still frozen
06:45:28	TSS_Killer	I even let the battery run out
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06:51:51	barry	hi... i put the old drive in and it works
06:52:18	barry	I put the new drive back in, and it won't boot and the computer won't see it. setting the lock switch makes no difference
06:52:50	barry	so I guess I need to wipe the drive somehow, but I have no idea where to get a connector that would work in a pc
06:53:13	iNobue	The new drive must be formatted wrong?
06:53:22	barry	no, it was working fine with apple firmware
06:53:33	barry	when I ran the bootloader install I screwed it up
06:53:40	iNobue	Oooo.
06:53:57	kkurbjun	kadoban: if the normal extension is .sgf on the computer I don't see a problem with it being that instead of .save, I mainly think that the saves should be in the .rockbox directory with everything else
06:54:36	kkurbjun	I was just testing plugins and kept wondering where this sgf folder was coming from till I realized it was goban
06:54:44	kadoban	kkurbjun: yeah, the rest of that commit i agree with, just the extension would be better as .sgf, imo
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06:55:46	ej0rge	TSS_Killer: That's very unusual. Rockbox doesn't alter the flash bootloader on the gigabeat S.
06:56:20	ej0rge	TSS_Killer: so with no hard drive, it should act exactly like it does with no hard drive if you'd never put rockbox on it - which is, it should boot up to error 5
06:57:04	TSS_Killer	I used sendfirm
06:57:19	ej0rge	Right. That's like a file transfer protocol - all it does is put a file on the hard drive
06:58:22	TSS_Killer	if there was a "real" recovery mode, I could probably try that
06:58:48	ej0rge	What's more "Real" than triggering the built in firmware recovery mode?
06:59:28	TSS_Killer	the only "recovery" mode I could find was for the zune
06:59:56	TSS_Killer	now, I know that the zune was a rebranded toshiba...but I'm not sure if the button combinations were the same
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07:01:05	Unhelpful	TSS_Killer: there's a battery disconnect switch on gigabeat s, no need to let the battery run out :)
07:01:11	ej0rge	recovery mode is accessed on the S by switching the battery off and then holding down left + menu while turning it on
07:02:00	ej0rge	http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/GigabeatSInstallation#Recovery_Mode
07:02:55	CIA-6	New commit by kkurbjun (r22181): Goban: Rename save file extension back to sgf to match other applications.
07:04:22	kadoban	thanks kkurbjun, much appreciated (for the other commit too)
07:04:41	kkurbjun	:) no problem
07:07:37	TSS_Killer	ej0rge: thanks...you see, I was pressing the wrong buttons (no thanks to people on other forums)
07:08:25	ej0rge	TSS_Killer: NP
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07:10:15	TSS_Killer	one more question before I go...I have a Sansa e260 (v1)...does this new rockbox release finally enable native USB support in rockbox?
07:11:14	ej0rge	TSS_Killer: yes, and there's a new bootloader as an official test build (check the rockbox forum) that boots to rockbox instead of the OF when you plug in usb
07:11:43	TSS_Killer	ok
07:12:50	TSS_Killer	and let me ask you this...all of this time that I was trying to install rockbox on the S30, I kept getting no disk in drive errors while trying to use sendfirm
07:13:09	TSS_Killer	with the single boot firmware available
07:14:20	iNobue	Oh you fixed your problem TSS?
07:14:24	TSS_Killer	and the strange thing was that initially, rockbox's USB mode would come up, and then even though I copied the rockbox files, it would boot into rockbox once and then it would give the number 3 error
07:14:29	TSS_Killer	yes, the "bricking"
07:14:35	iNobue	Congrats. :)
07:14:51	TSS_Killer	now I have to figure out how to install it properly :P
07:29:32	pixelma	TSS_Killer: there is a "monster drive build" which addresses some issues with certain drives in the "unsupported builds" part of the forums, though I don't know which or anything else about it... I think you could also find info why it was created in the forums too if you search for it. Unfortunately it looks like this build also includes unrelated patches... and "unsupported builds" are unsupported
07:30:58	TSS_Killer	I think after this fiasco, I think I'll wait until a more stable installation method is discovered
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07:44:31	onexused	I have a 3rd-gen ipod that I just stuck a CF card in. I'm on Linux. Is the only way to install rockbox to first find a Windows or Mac and run iTunes on the ipod?
07:45:55	Galois	does the linux installer not work?
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07:48:05	onexused	Galois: I get "no ipods found, aborting" with the manual bootloader install, and "Partition layout is not an ipod" (twice) with rbutil when trying to install.
07:48:27	Galois	can you dd the old disk over to the new drive?
07:49:20	onexused	Galois: I used dd to copy the first partition. Should I have done the whole disk?
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07:50:33	onexused	I'll try doing the whole disk to see if it helps, and hope I have enough battery.
07:50:41	Galois	the utility expects the factory installed partition layout. You can install rockbox manually as well, although I don't remember whether the ipodpatcher program now requires that partition layout.
07:50:56	onexused	okay
07:51:28	Galois	at one point it was definitely possible to install on any layout you wanted. Of course the original firmware will not work with joe random partitioning layout.
07:51:59	onexused	I don't need the original firmware, really. I don't use it.
07:52:41	Galois	battery shouldn't be an issue, since dd requires USB hookup and it always charges when plugged in to USB
07:53:43	onexused	Galois: Maybe it does charge, but it always ran out of battery for me when I tried to copy all my songs on at once.
07:57:10	onexused	doing the dd now.
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08:18:20	onexused	Awesome. I only copied 80MB with dd 'cause it kept having errors at 2GB, but I can install rockbox now.
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08:54:43	DarkSpectrum	n/m
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09:05:20	Unhelpful	DarkSpectrum: i don't believe we're offerring one any more. it's much easier to keep up-to-date source with svn or git.
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12:42:24	n1s	bertrik: any reason to keep that unused function around?
12:44:30	bertrik	I think it can go, but I would like to leave that to the beast maintainer (if there is one)
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14:20:00	pyro_maniac	Jaykay: you are looking for this http://build.rockbox.org/dev.cgi ?
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14:27:04	iNobue	The simulator isn't loading images for me.
14:27:13	iNobue	So I can't check if my album art is working.
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14:36:10	pyro_maniac	iNobue:current build?
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14:48:32	iNobue	Ver. r22050-090726
14:48:35	iNobue	iPod Video
14:54:40	pyro_maniac	iNobue: please try a actual build. if the error still occures report again.
14:55:08	linuxstb	iNobue: What kind of images, and how are you trying to load them?
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15:07:15	iNobue	Okay. I made this (http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/361/44664472.png), and I want to make it show up when a songs playing, somewhere on the screen and show how much battery is left. I tried to use some code from another theme but no luck.
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15:10:43	linuxstb	iNobue: Can you upload your .wps file somewhere? No-one can see what you did wrong if you don't show us.
15:10:56	linuxstb	e.g. http://www.pastebin.com
15:16:40	iNobue	I'm only modding cabbie for my first one but.
15:16:41	iNobue	http://pastebin.com/d84a0046
15:16:56	iNobue	I've got the battery in the position I want it. It's clipped off a bit though.
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15:29:43	iNobue	?
15:31:00	iNobue	Do I need more than 7 images?
15:37:09	iNobue	Sigh. I'm confused. I've got the line of code right, the x,y and number of images.
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15:54:04	saratoga	mt: still interested in ATRAC?
15:58:29	mt	saratoga: Yeah. Although it will take me much longer time to implement than cook, I think.
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16:00:24	saratoga	yes I think so
16:00:49	saratoga	any thought about how you will do it?
16:01:50	CIA-6	New commit by teru (r22189): use set_option instead of menu api for some settings of plugins to make it clear it's a setting.
16:03:16	mt	The process will be almost the same as cook at first ; isolate the decoder and then modify the test program to produce wav files from atrac audio files.
16:05:01	mt	Then converting the decoder to use fixed point math, and testing the output again with the test program.
16:05:11	saratoga	isolating the decoder should be easy since its ffmpeg
16:05:24	mt	Finally, porting to rockbox.
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16:06:55	saratoga	i'm skimming atrac3.c now, its actually fairly similar to cook
16:07:08	mt	Yes, I think the conversion to fixed point is what is going to take up the most time of all. isolating and porting shouldn't be a problem.
16:07:40	mt	iirc they even use the same descrambling formula for the extraction of audio frames.
16:07:50	*	mt checks
16:07:56	saratoga	if you get the codec working with rockbox's rm parser, you should be able to run the codec in the sim, even before its converted to fixed point
16:08:24	saratoga	and then maybe move backwards converting one segment at a time to fixed point so that you can check the output as you go
16:08:55	saratoga	though running in the sim is quite inconvient, so a test program like you suggested is probably better
16:13:01	LambdaCalculus37	mt, saratoga: ATRAC in RM containers next? You guys are crazy. :P
16:13:24	LambdaCalculus37	But seriously, if this works, how hard would it be to make a stand-alone ATRAC codec?
16:14:16	saratoga	LambdaCalculus37: theres a decoder in ffmpeg for atrac3, so thats what would be used
16:14:24	saratoga	its more or less stand alone
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16:16:08	saratoga	huh atrac3 is a hybrid subband coder like mp3
16:16:16	saratoga	i didn't realize more of those existed
16:19:39	LambdaCalculus37	Me neither.
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16:26:06	mt	LambdaCalculus37: :)
16:27:52	mt	saratoga: I don't think the test program would be a problem, I just checked and it uses the same formula as cook for the extraction of audio frames from the container.
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16:40:26	saik0	I cant seem to find the answer to this anywhere in the docs. Does syncing an iPod running rockbox in iTunes create a db for the stock firmware?
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16:49:36	LambdaCalculus37	saik0: No, you would have to sync using the OF.
16:50:02	LambdaCalculus37	But as long as the music is not DRM infected, you can create a database in Rockbox to use the same music.
16:51:39	saik0	Hmm i justed tested it with songbird (which lokos like it borrowed gtkpod syncing code) and the OF is listing all the files
16:51:48	saratoga	theres some documentation here about ATRAC (taken from the ffmpeg wiki)
16:51:49	saratoga	http://www.minidisc.org/atrac2.html
16:52:00	saratoga	its atrac2 rather then 3, but it looks very similar to the decoder in ffmpeg
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16:52:58	saik0	How do i rebuild the db in RB?
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16:55:40	iNobue	Settings > General Settings > Update Now
16:55:48	mt	saik0: settings->general settings->database->update now
16:56:01	iNobue	Woops, missed the database part.
16:56:27	iNobue	You can set it to Auto Update as well, on power off/on it will update automatically.
16:58:28	mt	saratoga: This seems to be good too, and atrac3 as well : http://www.wiki.multimedia.cx/index.php?title=RealAudio_atrc
16:58:52	iNobue	Does album art need to be below a certain size and width/height
16:58:53	iNobue	?
16:58:58	iNobue	Some show, some don't. All JPEG.
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17:00:46	saratoga	it does not
17:00:53	saratoga	but it must not be progressive jpeg
17:01:02	saratoga	you can open jpeg files in rockbox to see if they're progressive
17:01:29	iNobue	Oh.
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17:04:54	iNobue	IS there a program where I can mass re-save my jpegs to not be progressive?
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17:08:19	tmzt	saik0: does hfs+ support symlinks?
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17:10:52	tmzt	oh, but rockbox doesn't support it
17:10:56	tmzt	sorry
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18:31:33	Strife89	What, exactly, needs to be done to the Working With Playlists section of the manual? (I've been looking at the ManualToDo Wiki page; then at some listed sections of the manual, but nothing under the Chapter Specific section strikes me as in need of work.)
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18:36:28	n1s	Strife89: that fixme note is pretty old and it might be time to remove it, i don't know any specifics but if the chapter covers what you usually do and can do with playlists in an understandable manner i'd say we can remove it
18:36:51	Strife89	n1s: I read through it, and it makes sense to me.
18:37:39	Strife89	Maybe get a second opinion, though?
18:37:54	n1s	sure .9
18:37:57	n1s	EH :)
18:38:46	Strife89	I'm not a committer, so I can't remove it myself.
18:39:15	Strife89	I'll take care of the Wiki, though.
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18:43:15	LambdaCalculus37	Strife89: If you'd like, take a look at FS #10431. We need the keymap listings for the GoGear SA9200 in the manual.
18:43:59	*	Strife89 reads FS #10431.
18:46:02	Strife89	Hmm, this will take a while.
18:54:02	n1s	Strife89: i can remove the fixme but don't have the manual building stuff set up right now
18:54:20	Strife89	Ah, okay.
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19:15:04	saratoga	I added a lot to the ContributingToRockbox wiki page
19:15:14	saratoga	i'd like to get more ideas for ways people can help
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19:15:30	saratoga	more links to existing wiki pages would be nice too
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19:23:37	n1s	saratoga: testing the official test builds might be something for non-coders?
19:24:59	saratoga	maybe
19:25:08	n1s	also fixing bugs is missing from the for coders list :)
19:25:14	saratoga	those tend to be better suited for people following development of new ports and features though
19:25:45	saratoga	its mentioned under the individual headers (improve compatibility, etc)
19:26:32	n1s	also picking up old forgotten patches
19:26:58	saratoga	ah thats a good one
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19:27:19	saratoga	MrSomeoneTodo list as well
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19:30:57	n1s	hmm, tried running that database creation utility but it segfaults
19:32:25	n1s	looks like it dies on the same file every time
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19:36:30	saratoga	does rockbox parse that file ok?
19:36:32	n1s	ah, no it just segfaults when it's done
19:36:47	n1s	a nice little crash on exit :)
19:37:28	saratoga	can the database tool be compiled for windows?
19:37:39	saratoga	might be nice to give to people to trouble shoot metadata problems
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19:50:20	n1s	i wonder how to turn on logf in this utility
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20:02:58	[GFS]SeeD	hi guys
20:03:34	[GFS]SeeD	someone here who is willing to help me with an issue Ive got with rockbox 3.3?
20:04:39	n1s	if you tell us what the problem is, we might be able to help
20:04:50	[GFS]SeeD	thx dude
20:04:52	[GFS]SeeD	so here is the deal
20:04:59	[GFS]SeeD	ive got a e280 rhapsody
20:05:00	[GFS]SeeD	v1
20:05:09	[GFS]SeeD	checked it in the info menu of the player
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20:05:14	[GFS]SeeD	wanted to get rockbox on it
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20:05:24	[GFS]SeeD	tried it the way described in the manual for e200 sansas
20:05:25	[GFS]SeeD	on the page
20:05:42	ej0rge	rhapsody versions have a different installation procedure
20:05:59	[GFS]SeeD	where exactly can I find this information?
20:06:02	[GFS]SeeD	is it on the page?
20:06:11	ej0rge	there's a link to it on that page, iirc
20:06:27	pixelma	could you try to put more of your sentences into one line before hitting enter? Much easier to read (and in the channel guidelines linked from the topic)
20:06:29	ej0rge	http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SansaE200RInstallation
20:07:28	[GFS]SeeD	k, thx Im gonna try it... thanks a lot. Sorry been using mirc for a while, but didnt know that was a rule, my apologies
20:17:01	n1s	heh, stupid bug
20:18:32	iNobue	Is the iPod_Control folder required for RockBox to operate
20:18:41	iNobue	Or can I delete it. (Hit enter by mistake.)
20:19:04	saratoga	not used by rockbox
20:20:22	Strife89	iNobue: The only folder that's needed by Rockbox is ".rockbox", so feel free to delete other folders as you see fit.
20:20:38	iNobue	Okay, thank you.
20:21:42	pixelma	if you want to listen to music in the original firmware for some reason though...
20:28:42	CIA-6	New commit by nls (r22190): Fix crash in the database utility, turns out passing too few arguments for stat() isn't the best idea :)
20:36:23	n1s	i wonder if it passed something random from the stack as a pointer...
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20:41:04	ej0rge	Strife89: well, on ipods anyway. If someone were to find GBSYSTEM on a gigabeat and nuke it, they'd have problems.
20:42:22	LambdaCalculus37	Strife89: Or something like the SYSTEM folder on many PP-based players.
20:43:04	Strife89	Ah, yeah...
20:46:59	[GFS]SeeD	thanks a lot guys it worked
20:47:09	[GFS]SeeD	good work on that program, its amazing
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21:03:02	CIA-6	New commit by nls (r22191): Fix out of bounds accesses in keybox and matrix
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21:20:29	kugel	n1s: are you sure your fix to keybox is correct?
21:21:34	kugel	hm, reading the diff again, it seems correct
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21:28:42	amiconn	kugel: Btw, as you wondered yesterday - it is pretty clear why your typo increased RAM usage on the greyscale ipods:
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21:29:25	kugel	it wasn't for me
21:29:37	amiconn	LCD_FB(WIDTH\|HEIGHT) contain the width and height of the framebuffer in bytes, and the greyscale ipods have horizontally packed 2bpp pixels
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21:30:11	amiconn	So LCD_FBHEIGHT (128) is larger than LCD_FBWIDTH (40), even though the display is landscape
21:30:16	kugel	yea, linuxstb explained that
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21:30:40	kugel	although my definition of "pretty clear" is a bit different
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21:52:50	pyro_maniac	kugel: can you share some code for samsung battery charging and detection?
21:53:11	kugel	sure, wait some minutes
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22:00:42	kugel	pyro_maniac: http://pastie.org/574516
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22:02:52	kugel	pyro_maniac: I got ~6:50h battery life, it's rated for 10h. I'm doing a last bench though which I expect to be a bit better
22:06:35	kugel	pyro_maniac: it charges in rockbox (using CONFIG_CHARGING == CHARGING_SIMPLE), so it's hardware controlled. I'll commit it with a better battery calibration tomorrow (hopefully!)
22:07:25	pyro_maniac	ok and i try to adept it to the yh920
22:09:16	bertrik	the meizu has a LTC3455 which does autonomous charging, the Samsung YP-P2 uses an AAT2550, I suspect the Samsung yp-s3 uses one of those too
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22:10:40	kugel	bertrik: that's not the samsung we're talking about :p
22:11:13	bertrik	yeah, but it looks like there are a lot of similarities between samsung players (and s5l8700 based players)
22:12:38	bertrik	for example the way that the battery voltage is measured, 4.65V full range seems to work for the YP-S3 (and probably the YP-P2) too
22:13:11	pyro_maniac	ok but the yh devices are PP based
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22:25:27	iNobue	I used cabbie as my default code and it's getting to the point where it's not cabbie. Was wondering how I'd have the album art always showing?
22:25:39	iNobue	In the same way it does when it loads in the cabbie theme, with the track info next to it.
22:26:54	DarkSpectrum	lol i have no idea on that one, i'd say write a conditional but put a "blank space" in the background as a placeholder so if a user doesnt have album art it will still have a consistant look
22:27:54	iNobue	Won't be releasing this one. My second I will, as I'll write it from scratch.
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22:30:39	iNobue	I'll give this a go though, I'm just afraid to break it for a.. sixth time. This is the trouble with code that isn't fully all yours. :P
22:31:32	DarkSpectrum	lol true
22:33:11	bertrik	ah, the Samsung YH920 use an LTC3455 too, this chip has a charging status output. It's very well possible that this is connected to some GPIO of the CPU, so perhaps with a little experimentation you can find this bit and add charging status detection to the Samsung YHs
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22:37:26	kugel	bertrik: we have this (on my yh925 at least)
22:40:18	kugel	pyro_maniac: does your samsung also have this annoying backlight which never turns off?
22:40:31	*	kugel really needs to led mod those away
22:41:24	kugel	if that's possible, that is
22:41:29	pyro_maniac	didn't noticed this because i am not realy using it. if there would be sound i would test on the way to work and back
22:41:57	bertrik	kugel, oh I didn't see it in the code
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22:42:33	kugel	seen the patch I posted to pastie? it adds monitoring and charging
22:43:04	kugel	pyro_maniac: sadly, I can't help you with the sound. maybe if you slap funman enough he'll get on it
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22:44:27	pyro_maniac	kugel: i annoyed him several times but he is to busy with the sd driver and the ams devices he said.
22:44:47	kugel	I don't think he's doing anything in that area at the moment
22:45:20	pyro_maniac	kugel: because of holiday?
22:45:36	kugel	no, because we devs don't have any problems
22:45:51	kugel	but some users are reporting some but we can't figure out the cause
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22:48:04	pyro_maniac	bertrik: have you ever thougth about a blog for the samsung yp-s3 port? i saw your steps in the logs and i thougt it could be a very good howto for porting.
22:48:16	pyro_maniac	kugel: you are confusing me again
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22:50:25	kugel	pyro_maniac: some users are reporting problems, but since we devs have 0 problems, fixing or even finding them is next to impossible
22:51:53	pyro_maniac	ok now i got it. the bugs are not reproducible.
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23:04:17	pyro_maniac	kugel: have you tested some plugins?
23:04:29	kugel	very little
23:04:40	kugel	holding in bubbles doesn't work
23:04:58	pyro_maniac	bad keys?
23:05:11	kugel	btw, gevaerts, you probably want to recalibrate the samsung builds. it has plugins now
23:05:35	kugel	no, single pressing work, holding a key doesn't (left/right to aim, for example)
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23:14:38	webguest58	im just wondering if rockbox will ever use imbeded albem art right now thats the only thing stoping me fro using it
23:15:38	Bagder	now that is one of the silliest reasons I've read for not using Rockbox...
23:15:44	n1s	maybe, if someone implements this
23:16:00	Bagder	but yeah, I'd like it to support it one day
23:17:17	Mikachu	yeah, bright coloured fish to the people!
23:17:21	webguest58	well i perfer to use itunes to load my music to my ipod and its hard to put albem art in seporetly
23:17:36	n1s	ok
23:18:14	webguest58	plus all my music is in mp4 format
23:18:23	Mikachu	probably isn't difficult to make a small script that goes through a dirtree and pulls out album art from tags and puts in cover.jpg
23:18:41	evilnick	Rockbox plays mp4 fine, provided it isn't infected with DRM
23:19:10	webguest58	no drm om eney thing i hav
23:19:16	webguest58	*on
23:20:02	kugel	just don't use itunes :/
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23:20:32	iNobue	I think I find it easier having a folder.jpeg in my album folders, drop it in my DAP. Done.
23:20:44	kugel	also, I think there are tools to extract album art automatically
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23:21:13	evilnick	iTunes is mostly horrible for doing things behind the scenes in an attempt to make things easier, when it just frustrates me
23:21:23	webguest58	if you look at the directory for music files the files are named and sorted diferently then thay are on your harddrive
23:21:51	evilnick	webguest58: The directory on your iPod?
23:21:52	*	JdGordon\| would laugh if when we get embedded AA that itunes puts them in as progressive scan so they cant be used anyway
23:22:14	Bagder	hahaha
23:22:21	iNobue	LOL.
23:23:21	kugel	webguest58: why don't use you use a tool that can sync as nicely, and doesn't rename your files so strange and that can extract album art?
23:23:23	webguest58	yup ipod:\iPod_Control\Music\F00-F99\
23:24:05	pixelma	Mikachu: cover.jpg will be hard for Itunes db dir structure but that's what you could set up an album art folder with artist-album.jpg
23:24:27	evilnick	webguest58: Yes, iTunes helpfully does that. With Rockbox you don't need to use that and are free to use any file manager program to transfer the files.
23:24:30	webguest58	the music is named ????.mp4 based on idtag
23:25:00	kugel	webguest58: itunes is doing that, other tools don't do that, and rockbox doesn't need that
23:25:08	pixelma	album-artist.jpg from the tags
23:27:24	webguest58	realy Pixelma?? how??? \Album Art\"Artist"-"Album".jpg???
23:28:11	pixelma	webguest58: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/AlbumArt#Where_To_Put_The_Images , possibility number 5 should also work with the Itunes dir structure (using the tags to combine the filename, and leaving out character that aren't possible in file names)
23:28:49	pixelma	or replacing, see below
23:29:15	webguest58	ill give it a try
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23:38:35	webguest58	Pixelma thanks that worked
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