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01:42:45	kkurbjun	JdGordon, I am getting some strange graphic bugs on the M:Robe wps..
01:43:00	kkurbjun	It is showing in the sim too
01:43:07	JdGordon_	and you blame me?!
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01:43:14	JdGordon_	:) whats the problem
01:43:16	kkurbjun	:), possibly
01:43:31	*	JdGordon_ has a 4 day weekend.. so hopeuflly will get some good coding in
01:43:35	kkurbjun	if you load up that wps, and you start a song there is text that is showing behind a button
01:44:05	kkurbjun	if you click the play/pause button it goes away
01:44:16	JdGordon_	email me the theme (as usual :) )
01:44:26	kkurbjun	and then it only comes back if you leave the wps and then come back in
01:44:34	kkurbjun	it's the same one that's on the theme site
01:44:35	JdGordon_	button timeout maybe isnt being initialised correctly
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01:45:04	kkurbjun	this one: http://themes.rockbox.org/index.php?target=mrobe500
01:45:10	kkurbjun	well, the only one there
01:45:12	kkurbjun	:-D
01:45:16	JdGordon_	ok
01:45:28	JdGordon_	nag me tonight if you dont hear anything from me :) on the bus now
01:45:43	kkurbjun	:) will do
01:46:14	JdGordon_	although yeah if oyu want to try debugging it, its probbaly the button_timeout_something var in wps_data not being set correctly on init
01:46:27	JdGordon_	is it only the first time you go into the wps?
01:46:32	kkurbjun	why would that cause text to be shown?
01:46:49	JdGordon_	oh the button is supposed to be shown?
01:47:03	kkurbjun	it is showing something that starts with what looks like a Pl
01:47:11	kkurbjun	the button covers some of it
01:47:38	JdGordon_	oh, random text? its really not suposed to be there?
01:47:44	kkurbjun	yeah
01:47:52	kkurbjun	there should never be text there
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01:47:59	JdGordon_	AH OK.. thats a totally different issue then :)
01:54:01	JdGordon_	kkurbjun: can you screenshot the problem quickly?
01:54:07	JdGordon_	its got me curious
01:54:10	kkurbjun	yeah
01:54:17	kkurbjun	is there a good place to upload it?
01:54:26	JdGordon_	imgbin
01:54:29	JdGordon_	imagebin
01:54:36	JdGordon_	however its spelt :)
01:56:19	kkurbjun	http://imgbin.org/index.php?page=image&id=751
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01:56:44	kkurbjun	the text behind the rewind button
01:57:02	JdGordon_	interesting....
01:57:15	JdGordon_	can you remove the %xd's and see what the text is?
01:57:26	kkurbjun	then if you click the pause button it goes away
01:57:31	kkurbjun	sure
01:58:50	kkurbjun	without the button the text is "PM", it is centered instead of drawn on the bottom
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02:00:20	JdGordon_	ok... just wierd :p
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02:04:10	kkurbjun	yeah, agreed
02:05:44	JdGordon_	its always pm? on target and sim?
02:06:07	kkurbjun	it appears to be the same on the target also
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02:06:27	kkurbjun	I can see the P and the beginning of the M hiuding under the button
02:06:32	JdGordon_	there is no PM anywhere in the wps so its very baffeling where it gets it from
02:06:40	JdGordon_	even if it was a dodgey pointer
02:07:06	kkurbjun	I think I saw some other text at another point, but I can't be sure
02:08:16	JdGordon_	bbs
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02:31:57	kugel	kkurbjun: you possibly hit a bug I introduced :/
02:32:18	JdGordon	oh good :)
02:32:27	JdGordon	kkurbjun: damn nice theme by the way.. and yes repros here
02:32:27	kugel	any chance the text you're seeing is from the previous menu?
02:32:32	JdGordon	no
02:32:44	JdGordon	at least for me, that area is empty
02:32:57	kugel	then it's probably not my bug, but I nevertheless introduced one :)
02:35:44	kkurbjun	JdGordon: thanks
02:36:09	JdGordon	whats the remote volume button in the sim?
02:36:18	JdGordon	I wonder if the rwps is gettting in the way
02:36:56	kkurbjun	remote volume button?
02:37:04	JdGordon	how do you change the volume?
02:37:14	kkurbjun	oh, I don't know
02:38:12	CIA-43	New commit by kkurbjun (r22612): Sim: Add support for vertical stride.
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02:40:24	JdGordon	22438 causes the real default (hardcoded) to crash with a NULL ref
02:40:57	CIA-43	New commit by kugel (r22613): Change r22610 a bit. The new parent viewport isn't really suitable. ...
02:41:45	CIA-43	New commit by jdgordon (r22614): stop a potential crash caused by r22438
02:42:09	kugel	JdGordon: really? I tested that one on target&sim
02:42:22	JdGordon	settings.s can pass NULL as the buf
02:42:35	JdGordon	its not the rwps causing the PM though
02:43:38	kugel	settings.s? You're planning on rewriting it in AMS? :)
02:43:47	kugel	go for it! :P
02:44:14	JdGordon	comeone cwapped my c and s keyc!
02:44:35	kugel	cettingc.c doen't exist in our repo
02:44:45	JdGordon	doh! you spotted the obvious flaw
02:44:50	kugel	haha
02:44:50	JdGordon	anyway... bbl
02:46:32	CIA-43	New commit by kkurbjun (r22615): Fix STRIDE macro for multiscreen and add stride support for picture lib.
02:47:19	*	kugel isn't really appealed by the STRIDE macro in apps/ code
02:47:43	kkurbjun	hmm?
02:48:50	kugel	saving a parameter might be usefull, but I generally don't like macro'd parameter lists
02:49:02	kugel	(the reason I hade IF_MV() so much)
02:49:17	kugel	hate*
02:50:27	kkurbjun	yeah, I generally don't like macros, but I think this may be the cleanest way to implement it
02:52:24	kugel	well, "cleanest" would be to pass both parameter always, but that would be a waste for ALL-1 targets :)
02:53:21	kkurbjun	:) true, it would make sense to pass both if you have rotation support
02:53:37	kkurbjun	for all targets that is
02:53:45	kugel	I'm only fearing those macros (especially in parameter lists) are discouraging new developers, since it's rather unusual
02:54:27	syn4pse	about how many different keypads do you have to configure for with a plugin? i am currently using that pluginlib (not sure what it's called) and i want to do it the right way.
02:54:51	kugel	a lot
02:55:22	kugel	probably 25-30
02:55:26	kkurbjun	I guess should at least add better comments around the macro to explain what it is for
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02:55:42	kugel	STRIDE is a bad name also, IMO
02:56:03	kkurbjun	I think stride is pretty common at least with jpeg algorithms
02:56:35	kugel	I think 95%+ of potential contributors are not familiar with jpeg algorithms
02:56:49	kugel	I'm not anyway
02:57:29	kkurbjun	msdn has a good explanation of it as the first link if you search for image stride on google
02:57:38	kugel	at least for the screen api, the macro could possibly be avoided
02:59:19	kugel	the .XXX part of screen[i].XXX can be preprocessed, can't it?
02:59:55	kugel	kkurbjun: reading code which forces you to google isn't very inviting
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03:00:37	kkurbjun	what would you call it?
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03:01:26	kugel	well, I'm just nagging, I don't have real ideas :>
03:02:22	kkurbjun	it's already called stride in the parameter list, so I think the macro name makes sense - I'm adding a comment to give a brief description around the macro so that someone new could read a little on it to get the idea of what it is.
03:02:25	kkurbjun	:)
03:02:33	kugel	hah, someone fell into the Player trap! :p
03:03:09	kugel	really, if someone was about to make a statistic about reds, that annoying charcell would be #1
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03:22:26	*	Strife89 forgot to type a description for his theme port.
03:23:18	Strife89	Is it possible to go back and add one?
03:28:59	CIA-43	New commit by kkurbjun (r22616): Explain the stride and fix the player.
03:29:56	JdGordon	kugel: wtf are you on about? none of that is going to scare newcomers off...
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03:30:36	kkurbjun	Strife89: if you have a description I can add it, which theme are you referring to?
03:30:51	Strife89	Spartan Black for the iPod Photo.
03:31:28	kkurbjun	What description do you want?
03:31:50	Strife89	kkurbjun: Hang on while I finish it up.
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03:36:05	Strife89	kkurbjun: This is it. http://pastebin.com/m646ae0e3
03:37:18	MrFANG	hey guys, i was having trouble adding ogg's to my ipod earlier through floov (i think thats what it was) and then itunes, neither let me. ipod is 5g 30gb latest build of rockbox, any ideas?
03:38:14	MrFANG	btw, i cant test anything now but suggestions would be nice
03:38:25	saratoga	ask those product's developers
03:39:07	saratoga	or just drag and drop the files onto your player if you don't feel like waiting a long while
03:39:26	MrFANG	you mean in disk mode?
03:39:41	saratoga	assuming you have an ipod thats the only mode it has
03:40:04	MrFANG	uh... ok
03:40:20	MrFANG	ill try drag + drop tomorrow
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03:46:09	Strife89	kkurbjun: How does one update a theme?
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03:54:11	kkurbjun	Strife89: I don't think you can unless you are an admin
03:54:58	kkurbjun	I added the description, it should be up now
03:55:10	Strife89	kkurbjun: Okay, thanks. :)
03:55:35	Strife89	kkurbjun: Are you, by chance, an admin?
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04:00:48	kkurbjun	I have admin access, but I can't claim that I do much with the theme site, I needed it to add the M:Robe 500 page
04:01:55	Strife89	kkurbjun: Can you do it, or do I need to ask someone else?
04:02:08	kkurbjun	I already added the description
04:02:24	Strife89	kkurbjun: I'm talking about reuploading the theme. :)
04:02:31	kkurbjun	oh, I missed that
04:02:36	Strife89	kkurbjun: And thanks for doing the description. :)
04:03:35	kkurbjun	I don't think I can update the zip, I think the only option is to delete it
04:03:49	kkurbjun	and then you can add it again
04:04:06	kkurbjun	I just removed it
04:04:09	Strife89	kkurbjun: Okay, I'm fine with doing that. :)
04:04:13	kkurbjun	so you should be able to add it back
04:05:56	Strife89	kkurbjun: Okay, I see it's gone. :)
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04:08:43	Strife89	kkurbjun: And... it's back. Thanks for your help. :)
04:08:50	kkurbjun	no problem
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06:13:42	CIA-43	New commit by kkurbjun (r22617): Clock: Fix rendering.
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06:43:27	JdGordon	ok, code time.... specifically.. why the hell is PM showing up in that wps :p
06:43:33	JdGordon	any ideas?! :p
06:47:42	*	JdGordon is slightly worried at how much drawing happens in a skin
06:50:55	pixelma	PM?
06:50:59	*	JdGordon is utterly amazed that PM gets displayed!
06:51:08	JdGordon	http://imgbin.org/index.php?page=image&id=751
06:51:15	JdGordon	from a couple hours ago... wierd bug
06:51:37	JdGordon	it looks like the line is poining past the end fo the toeksn array... which means thats coming from the bmp header... I tink!
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07:12:58	JdGordon	holy crap! apparently the size of the tokens array isnt being sized properly!
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07:34:05	JdGordon	is \n generally asociated as the end of the last line, or the start of the next?
07:41:30	pixelma	JdGordon: what's the & in this WPS' touch area definitions supposed to do (e.g. "&ffwd")? I can find "ffwd" as possible action to assign to an area but not with "&"
07:41:45	pixelma	in the CustomWPS page
07:42:02	JdGordon	umm... i tihnk for repeat?
07:42:05	JdGordon	lemme check
07:42:18	JdGordon	yep
07:43:20	pixelma	ah, umm... found the short explanation of it on CustomWPS too now
07:47:48	*	JdGordon is bafffled!
07:47:55	pixelma	I wonder whether this PM comes literally those two letters or from a %cP (uppercase AM/PM indicator) somewhere
07:48:11	pixelma	+from
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07:50:04	pixelma	then AM would be shown past midnight...
07:51:52	JdGordon	exept there are no clock tasg in that wp
07:51:54	JdGordon	wps
07:52:09	JdGordon	also the two letters arnt next to eachother anywhere in it
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08:01:04	pixelma	I saw that but if neither is in the .wps and it comes from "somewhere", I'm curious which of the possibilities it is
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08:05:34	LinusN	JdGordon: there is only one Archos Player
08:06:09	JdGordon	did I say otherwsie?
08:06:26	LinusN	"try again with more info... what theme, what player, reset your settings"
08:06:46	JdGordon	bah :p
08:06:49	LinusN	:-)
08:07:00	JdGordon	long time no see, hows things?
08:09:52	LinusN	well, things are ok, i guess
08:12:11	LinusN	life is kind of upside down nowadays, so not much rockboxing (yet)
08:17:44	CIA-43	New commit by jdgordon (r22618): minor line handling fixes, be smarter (well dumber actually) about increasing the size of the tokens array, that loop isnt the only place the ...
08:18:00	JdGordon	kkurbjun: all fixed...
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08:24:18	CIA-43	New commit by jdgordon (r22619): fix checkwps
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11:00:51	Sky0Hunter	I cant turn my D2 on -.- I'm using Kubuntu 9.04.. I tried to run the D2 in recovery mode but I can't get it to work p.p
11:02:18	funman	Sky0Hunter: there is a bug in ubuntu which makes MSC device detection fail, check https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libgphoto2/+bug/355998
11:03:14	Sky0Hunter	can i fix that?
11:03:24	Sky0Hunter	or should i try it on windows?
11:04:00	gevaerts	what exactly happens?
11:04:13	Sky0Hunter	nothing xD
11:04:42	gevaerts	in that case, do something
11:04:47	Sky0Hunter	tcctool says usb_set_configuration failed (-1)
11:05:15	gevaerts	are you running it as root?
11:05:23	Sky0Hunter	nop
11:05:26	Sky0Hunter	trying
11:05:27	Sky0Hunter	mom
11:05:45	Sky0Hunter	omg p.p
11:05:57	Sky0Hunter	im an idiot
11:05:57	Sky0Hunter	xDD
11:06:00	Sky0Hunter	thx a lot <3
11:06:03	gevaerts	Sky0Hunter: please use real words here, as requested in the guidelines...
11:06:12	Sky0Hunter	ok oh my god
11:06:37	Sky0Hunter	it started
11:08:20	Sky0Hunter	i got another question
11:08:30	Sky0Hunter	can i use 3.59 for 16gig d2?
11:09:12	funman	what is 3.59?
11:09:23	Sky0Hunter	the firmware version 3.59
11:10:22	funman	there is no rockbox 3.59 so I can't tell, did the instructions say anything specific about the original firmware version ?
11:11:03	Sky0Hunter	i read in a forum that it will not work but it was an older thread
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11:15:39	Sky0Hunter	hmmhm i could upload everything but i cant start it
11:16:13	Sky0Hunter	it just shows me the loading screen when i upload D2N.bin and then turns white
11:16:29	Sky0Hunter	after disconnecting from my comp i cant start it
11:20:54	Sky0Hunter	im confused...
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11:23:32	Sky0Hunter	okay cant get it to start.. cu guys have to go to school now
11:23:41	Sky0Hunter	see you
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11:36:13	kugel	JdGordon: (for the logs) Re: FS #10582, didn't he fill out the Player? I don't think there's a wide variatey of themes for it
11:36:57	CIA-43	New commit by vitja (r22620): iaudio7: Implement udelay, mostly based on D2 port, except Z-clock initialization
11:37:56	kugel	grr, I want a udelay too on ams
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12:22:59	AsaelReiter	Is it possible to record from FM using rockbox? (SansaClip)
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12:41:06	AlexP	AsaelReiter: It is in Rockbox in general if the hardware allows, but I don't know for the clip whether a) The hardware allows it or b) If it has been implemented yet
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12:55:06	AsaelReiter	AlexP: the hardware allows it. What need to be implemented?
12:56:18	AsaelReiter	(FM and file-saving are already implemented)
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13:05:14	kugel	AsaelReiter: recording
13:06:02	kugel	see http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/10371
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13:07:45	AsaelReiter	kugel: Thank you.
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13:09:03	AsaelReiter	But is recording from FM needs the recording hardware?
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13:35:29	PaulJam	kugel: concerning your scrolling fix: with r22620 and the v2 custon SB patch scrolling in the statusbar works, but the scrolling resets everytime the progressbar updates (so usually it never actually scrolls unless you set the start delay to 0). and there are still often scrolling lines from previous screens remaining on the display.
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15:09:51	cornwall	Hi, I have a rockboxed ipod 5.5 running on linux. I hate fat32, and I use a syncing program to transfer my music to a folder. Would it be advisable to format my ipod to, say, ext3/4?
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15:10:09	gevaerts	no, because then it wouldn't work anymore
15:10:19	cornwall	I'm stuck on fat, then?
15:11:00	gevaerts	rockbox only supports fat, yes
15:11:10	cornwall	ah, well. Thanks anyway :)
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15:50:52	TheSeven	what do you think, should i go for a trivial read-only FTL for the new ipods, or read/write?
15:51:30	TheSeven	(read-only was already ~1000 sloc on the iphone, which has a similar FTL)
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17:19:06	*	n1s wants more testers for fs#10569 anyone witah any of these rtc's: m41st84w, jz4740, rx5x348ab, s3c2440, s35390a around who wants to do some testing
17:20:56	rasher	Which targets have those?
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17:22:27	*	n1s doesn't rememmber, so goes to check
17:22:38	rasher	Might help get more testers :)
17:23:41	n1s	recorder, recorderv2 and fmrecorder has the m41st84w
17:25:39	n1s	the ondas have the jz4740 (named after SoC)
17:26:02	n1s	gigabeat f/x has the s3c2440 (also named after SoC)
17:26:39	n1s	mrobe500 has rx5x348ab
17:27:55	n1s	...and meizu's and yps3 (and nano2g) has the s35390A
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18:03:08	kugel	hrm, screen.scroll_stop doesn't quite work as I expected
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18:04:08	CIA-43	New commit by nls (r22621): Const police raid\!
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18:11:29	kugel	can anyone tell me how it's supposed to work?
18:12:09	kugel	I do display->scroll_stop(ui_vp); and it doesn't stop scrolling. looking at the function it seems to viewport has to match some scroll_info viewport
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18:35:02	CIA-43	New commit by kugel (r22622): Alright, it seems I got scroll_stop() wrong. Using the viewport that's set before doing all the puts_scroll* calls seems to work.
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19:45:58	bertrik	yay, I think I have buttons working on the c200v2 (at least the raw bits seem to work)
19:46:24	bertrik	(most buttons already worked, this is the remaining ones)
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19:51:17	kugel	nice
19:51:21	kugel	all via dbop?
19:51:35	bertrik	yes
19:52:00	bertrik	some of the button bits are not even connected to GPIO (data bits 12..15 of DBOP)
19:53:19	bertrik	and without needing red pixels outside the visible LCD area ... :)
19:53:25	kugel	how are you doing it? my dbop (i.e. on my fuze) doesn't react on much buttons
19:53:26	JdGordon	kugel: what commit did i break what?
19:54:11	kugel	JdGordon: I have a wps which has it's album art at 0,0, but draws it in a conditional viewport. the album art shows twice. a) where it's supposed to be, and b) at 0,8 (statusbar is on)
19:54:38	JdGordon	thats rather odd :p
19:54:42	JdGordon	when did that start
19:54:43	JdGordon	?
19:55:43	kugel	todays build. the custom sb patched build from yesterday doesn't have it
19:55:50	kugel	or didn't, rather
19:55:55	bertrik	kugel, I think the buttons act as a weak pull-down on the DBOP data pins, so in order to read them, you have to put a high level on the DBOP pins, wait a little and check which bits are 0
19:57:16	kugel	JdGordon: that was build after the sync to your first subline commit, so I suspect r22618.
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19:57:39	JdGordon	does it happen in svn?
19:58:02	bertrik	I'm putting a high level on the pins by doing a 0xFFFF write to DBOP_DOUT, while the TIMPOL registers are configured to not generate a write pulse towards the LCD
19:59:01	kugel	I'd like to use a single variant for reading buttons too on fuze/e200v2
19:59:17	kugel	changing afsel constantly is a real mess and probably causing the sporadic corruption
19:59:37	TheSeven	btw, what kind of FTL does the 1st gen nano use? is there a rockbox driver for it?
19:59:40	bertrik	yes, I'm pretty sure we can avoid that
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20:00:37	kugel	the down button shows on dbop. it goes low indeed
20:01:08	kugel	is there a quick hack to show the i/o ports debug menu on bootup?
20:01:22	kugel	JdGordon: yes
20:01:59	kugel	JdGordon: cabbiev2 doesn't have this problem, so I suspect it's the viewport, or maybe even that it's conditional
20:02:00	JdGordon	TheSeven: isnt the first gen nano just ata with the hardware doing the work?
20:02:09	JdGordon	kugel: send me the theme
20:02:27	kugel	download it on the tracker, it's the azure ultimate custom statusbar test theme
20:02:28	TheSeven	JdGordon: that would explain it...
20:02:52	JdGordon	kugel: give me one that works with svn
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20:03:06	kugel	huh?
20:03:11	kugel	it should work with svn
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20:04:16	amiconn	The 1st gen Nano essentially uses CF in a different package, so it uses plain ata
20:05:29	kugel	JdGordon: the .wps doesn't have any magic, it's fully compatible with svn
20:08:30	kugel	JdGordon: the non custom-sb version is here: http://themes.rockbox.org/index.php?target=e200
20:08:56	JdGordon	we really need to be able to link to themes there :)
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20:10:27	*	amiconn would really like to know what made manufacturers switch from (embedded) standard flash cards to software ftl + dumb flash
20:10:49	JdGordon	software is cheaper than hardware?
20:11:47	*	bertrik is slightly worried about the function backlight_hold_changed
20:12:20	amiconn	I doubt there's a noticeable difference, and then software ftl means developing and debugging an extra module
20:13:16	JdGordon	yeah, but software issues are much easier fixed...
20:13:33	JdGordon	and I guess cuts down the package size a tiny bit?
20:13:34	kugel	bertrik: can I see a diff?
20:13:42	JdGordon	kugel: im not getting AA at all
20:14:17	kugel	you're doing it wrong probably
20:14:22	amiconn	The standard cards already exist though.
20:14:58	bertrik	backlight_hold_changed is called in interrupt context in some button drivers, it can call backlight_on, which means that backlight_on needs to be safe to run in interrupt context
20:15:10	kugel	it is
20:15:33	amiconn	backlight_on just posts to the queue iirc
20:15:43	kugel	yes
20:16:35	bertrik	ok, posting to a queue is allowed from interrupt context?
20:16:44	amiconn	yes
20:17:01	JdGordon	Folder.jpg is in the search list isnt it?
20:17:11	*	JdGordon is sure these folders worked with AA before
20:17:15	*	bertrik is relieved
20:17:35	kugel	JdGordon: folder.jpg is, and I think it does strcmp, not strcasecmp
20:17:52	bertrik	kugel, I'd like to get it working cleanly on the c200v2, I can do a diff a bit later tonight I think
20:18:02	amiconn	That's in fact the reason why some queues exist - something needs to react on events originating in interrupt context, but that reaction needs to happen in normal thread context
20:18:34	JdGordon	wow! thats fucked
20:18:36	kugel	bertrik: I can't get any more buttons on dbop, but gpio b/c are both 0xFF
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20:19:31	kugel	do I need to wait until you consider your code clean? I just want to get the idea how you do it
20:20:15	domonoky	bluebrother: this patch: http://pastebin.com/m55c5a665 allows to build rbutil from outside of the rbutil directory (ie [rockbox-source]/buildrbutil/). what do you think ? and can you please try it on linux ? :-)
20:21:13	domonoky	call it with "qmake ..\rbutil\rbutilqt\rbutil.pro" It still gives a error about the ressourcefiles, but they still get built correctly and everything works.
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20:22:14	JdGordon	kugel: line 39
20:22:20	JdGordon	%?lh ?!
20:22:30	kugel	virtual ld
20:22:31	kugel	led
20:22:42	kugel	i.e. disk access
20:22:43	JdGordon	thats coming up as unknown token
20:23:24	kugel	http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CustomWPS#Virtual_LED
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20:23:47	JdGordon	#if (CONFIG_LED == LED_VIRTUAL) \|\| defined(HAVE_REMOTE_LCD)
20:24:11	kugel	the e200 has LED_VIRTUAL
20:24:33	kugel	it shows the tiny flash icon on the right side of the statusbar
20:25:35	JdGordon	its using the same #if?
20:25:44	kugel	yea
20:25:51	JdGordon	its coming up as unknonw token.. which should actually kill the parser
20:26:57	kugel	it worked until today so..
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20:28:50	JdGordon	my #warn line isnt getting displayed... very very wierd
20:28:52	JdGordon	but i gtg
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20:36:50	bluebrother	domonoky: I wanted to do something like this since long, but the approach seems strange to me. Where do you want to run qmake? IMO it should get run in the build dir, thus I don't see why the build/* variables should need to get modified
20:37:26	*	kugel could imagine rbutil as a configure target
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20:38:10	domonoky	yes, run qmake in the build dir. qmake automtically adjust the path, but fails for some, which i corrected. and of course the paths in the extra make calls.
20:38:48	bluebrother	in fact, you almost can build rbutil out-of-tree. The only problem are those hardcoded paths to the project file and the external make runs
20:38:58	domonoky	"qmake ..\rbutil\rbutilqt\rbutilqt.pro" and then a make in your build dir.
20:39:53	domonoky	the patch above works reliably in windows.. and its not much changes. it also works if you still use the rbutilqt folder to build.
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20:40:59	domonoky	now i want also those external makefiles to output to the dir where you call make. so that you can get a clean build if you remove the buildfolder.
20:43:10	bluebrother	well, for the lrelease call we'd better use $_PRO_FILE_ IMO
20:43:15	bluebrother	as that is always correct.
20:43:34	domonoky	the build/* rules need to be modified, because at least on windows qmake fails to not change the path for UI_DIR (then the makefile has the wrong path in the INCLUDEPATH). and so i modified all of them to make sure it always works .
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20:45:23	domonoky	$$PWD should be the same as the $_PRO_FILE as it contains the path when we process the .pro file.
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20:46:13	bluebrother	no, $_PRO_FILE_ is the full filename to the project file. Definitely something different than PWD.
20:47:22	domonoky	ah, its with the filename already appended ?
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20:47:53	bluebrother	yes, and there's $_PRO_FILE_PWD_ :)
20:48:06	bluebrother	gimme a few minutes, I'm trying it as we speak
20:49:49	domonoky	:-)
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20:59:19	bluebrother	hmm, compiling takes quite a while without ccache having effect.
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21:01:22	bertrik	kugel, here's the patch for the c200v2 http://pastebin.ca/1554124
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21:05:46	domonoky	bluebrother: what do you think of this http://pastebin.com/m7a7885fc approach to make the external libs also output there intermediate and final files to our build-dir ? (for know only librbspeex converted) ie give them a TARGET_DIR where the external lib should put its files. for normal compiling it would be empty.
21:08:21	bluebrother	domonoky: do you have spaces in the path to your sources / build folder?
21:08:35	kugel	bertrik: interesting that GPIOB_AFSEL is only 0xC
21:08:39	domonoky	no
21:09:37	bluebrother	it's erroring out here (on windows) with spaces, but that did work before.
21:10:00	bertrik	yeah, it seems the c200v2 uses only two control signals, a write strobe line and a command/data select line
21:10:06	kugel	for the 16bit interface, the datasheet suggest all GPIOB/C pins would be used
21:10:19	domonoky	oh, also if you build normally ?
21:11:10	bluebrother	haven't tried yet. Seems to be related to the fact that the generated Makefile tries to cd a few times.
21:11:30	bluebrother	what do you think about simply requiring the paths to not contains spaces?
21:11:58	*	rasher shakes a tiny fist
21:12:02	domonoky	i think that also would be fine, and saves us a bit of headaches :-)
21:12:47	domonoky	we could even add a litte check at the front of the pro file and error out if space detected :-)
21:13:02	bluebrother	rasher: at what? At supporting spaces the first place or at dropping it?
21:13:25	*	bluebrother starts a fresh svn checkout
21:13:30	rasher	Dropping it. But I'm not going to help code support for it, so..
21:13:51	bluebrother	well, I'd like to keep support, but I haven't figured what breaks it right now.
21:14:11	bluebrother	could be a Qt issue. There are a few issues on W32/MinGW anyway.
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21:18:29	kugel	bertrik: hrm, that doesn't work well
21:19:50	kugel	backlight goes off immediately
21:20:17	bertrik	hm, weird
21:20:38	bluebrother	domonoky: making librbspeex output its immediate files by passing an environment variable is the way to go IMO.
21:20:55	bertrik	maybe the player thinks that hold switch is engaged and turns off the backlight because of that
21:21:04	kugel	bertrik: btw, (0 << 13) \| to unset bit13 doesn't work
21:21:10	kugel	oh, you're not or'ing, sorry
21:21:53	domonoky	bluebrother: oki so i will apply this also to the other libs :-)
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21:24:16	kugel	bertrik: aye, I can read all buttons now
21:24:54	bertrik	nice, no more AFSEL switching needed?
21:26:22	kugel	possibly. but the display is rather instable
21:30:20	kugel	bertrik: hm no, home and hold (which we read via dbop already are problematic
21:31:43	bertrik	maybe there needs to be a little more or less delay between setting the pins high and reading them back
21:32:37	bertrik	for example you could set the sdc bit low in DBOP_CTRL and rs_t to 31 in the dbop read routine to sample the DBOP pins a little later
21:33:37	kugel	changing the wheel bits is a bad idea also
21:36:40	kugel	bertrik: the buttons we already read wouldn't even needed to be precharged
21:37:11	kugel	I'm thinking of reading the input twice actually. once without precharge, for the existing buttons, then precharge and read again for the others
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21:40:00	bertrik	weird, could it be that not all DBOP data pins have the same pull-ups or pull-downs?
21:41:33	kugel	definitely
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21:46:13	domonoky	http://pastebin.com/m34ea0dd1 now with all external libs output to the build-dir. please review and comment !
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21:53:39	kugel	bertrik: writing to DBOP_DOUT complicates reads during lcd updates even more :S
21:54:26	CIA-43	New commit by bluebrother (r22623): Explicitly set CC to prevent make trying to use cc instead. Fixes build issues on w32.
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21:55:30	bertrik	I think we should not write at all to the DBOP during lcd updates for now
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21:57:28	bertrik	lcd_update does take about 10 ms max which may be too long for smooth scrollwheeling, so maybe we may have to think of a way to do so
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22:02:11	kugel	bertrik: I think I could get it to work by copy&pasting your function, but keeping the old dbop read also
22:02:49	kugel	on the fuze, the wheel is perfectly smooth IMO
22:02:57	JdGordon	has anyone seen wierdness (or the virtual LED not working) on any other targets?
22:03:06	kugel	but you can read that regardless of lcd updates
22:04:13	bertrik	in the c200v2 DBOP function I only change TIMPOL_23, maybe fuze/e200v2 needs some value in TIMPOL_01 too
22:04:41	kugel	I was trying that
22:06:41	bertrik	on closer inspection of the fuze lcd driver, it seems the fuze does not really use TIMPOL_01
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22:07:37	kugel	no idea
22:07:39	bertrik	hm, not sure actually
22:07:58	bluebrother	hmm. Editing the wrong file won't change the file intended to change obviously
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22:15:08	ej0rge	kugel: the wheel is smooth but there are several detents in the mechanism that give it a notchy feel
22:16:03	bluebrother	domonoky: with the changes in-tree builds break on w32 too :(
22:16:07	bluebrother	haven't checked on linux.
22:17:40	domonoky	what breaks ?
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22:18:15	bluebrother	it tries to cd to some path but it breaks at the space in the path. Works fine with paths not containing spaces.
22:18:43	domonoky	ah, and the error line doesnt catch or stop the script ?
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22:19:56	bertrik	brickmania is slow on c200v2
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22:21:32	bluebrother	domonoky: make fails, because it can't start the process.
22:21:58	kugel	bertrik: I have a build running with the new reading now
22:22:08	domonoky	its probably the external make calls, some "" might be needed.. i will try to fix this.
22:23:06	bluebrother	my version, works fine on w32 and linux, but only if there are no spaces in the path: http://pastebin.ca/1554230
22:23:23	kugel	the sporadic display corruption isn't gone. sometimes parts of the screen is shifted a few pixel (I don't check for lcd_busy yet, so that could be clashing), and I get a white pixel sometimes (which would be 0xffff, possibly also fixed by checking for lcd_busy)
22:23:31	bluebrother	well, I'm wondering if that's some Qt issue. Wouldn't be surprised ...
22:25:46	bertrik	kugel, nice to hear
22:26:04	kugel	I was hoping it helps against the corruption
22:26:15	kugel	this way there's no real advantage of the new method
22:26:16	domonoky	hm, and if i try to add "" in the .pro file qmake strips them when it generates the makefile.
22:26:33	domonoky	i would opt to just say spaces in the path are forbidden.
22:27:03	bertrik	we really need to check for the lcd_busy before reading, I think that will fix the corruptions and white pixels
22:28:03	domonoky	bluebrother: and the in-tree builds also break now, because we use now absolute paths at some places.
22:28:24	kugel	I doubt it fixes the corruption
22:28:28	bluebrother	domonoky: yes, unfortunately :(
22:30:46	bluebrother	at least the latest version I posted looks like a clean change to the pro file to me. Still, those space issue is annoying
22:33:23	domonoky	is that all that is needed for you ? ie you dont need to modify the INCLUDEPATH or the UI_DIR variables ?
22:33:31	bluebrother	yes.
22:33:50	domonoky	strange, which Qt version do you use ?
22:35:30	bluebrother	4.4.3 on linux, 4.5.2 on windows
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22:38:57	*	domonoky uses 4.5.0 on windows.. maybe i should update ?
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22:43:07	domonoky1	my qmake generates a include path for this which points to ../rbutil/rbutilqt/build/ui/ for the ui headers. so clearly wrong.
22:43:20	bertrik	has anyone ever tried the radio on the c200v2?
22:46:58	domonoky1	bluebrother: so should we just say my version is broken ? and use your version, or should we make it work for both ?
22:47:37	bluebrother	domonoky1: well, 4.5.1 was broken, maybe 4.5.0 was too. Though I'd like to see it working on as much versions as possible.
22:48:02	bluebrother	have you tried a clean rebuild? I fooled myself a couple of times by looking at the wrong file earlier :o
22:48:40	domonoky1	yes, i cleaned the dirs/files. i also read the generated Makefile to know whats happening :-)
22:49:01	bluebrother	I'd also like to at least know details about the spaces issue before changing this. Modifying the libs can go separate anyway.
22:49:54	domonoky1	to see the details about the spacing issue, just take a look at such a generated Makefile, you will see that the paths with spaces are not enclosed with " "
22:50:40	bluebrother	well, sure, but I'd like who's the one causing this. Probably some prf file
22:50:42	domonoky1	i tried to force it by adding "" into the paths in the .pro file. it doesnt change, qmake is too smart :-/
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22:51:28	domonoky1	its the external lib, and every absolute path you can find in Makefile and Makefile.Release.
22:52:01	bluebrother	yeah, I know that. But why is the path not quoted properly?
22:52:39	domonoky1	bug in qmake ?
22:53:50	bluebrother	maybe.
22:54:14	domonoky1	http://lists.trolltech.com/qt-interest/2006-04/thread00486-0.html but maybe we can fix it with $$quote(string)
22:55:42	domonoky1	trolltechs tasktracker also lists many bugs with spaces and qmake..
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22:57:40	bluebrother	well, it's at least worth a try.
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22:58:33	bdn3504	how do i make a mac book recognize my sansa e200 as a mass storage device and no input device?
22:59:02	n1s	isn't it both?
22:59:35	domonoky1	bä, $$quote(string) didnt change the output, atleast with qt4.5.0 :-/
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23:00:57	bluebrother	:(
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23:01:37	bertrik	hm, brickmania isn't just slow on c200v2 but also on c200(v1), also the bonus stuff doesn't drop anymore
23:03:29	bertrik	also the right button in the time screen doesn't seem to work properly both on c200v1 and c200v2
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23:09:24	domonoky1	bluebrother: so any real objections to just commiting my last patch ? :-)
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23:12:10	bluebrother	didn't that still contain this $$OUT_PWD stuff?
23:12:39	domonoky1	yes, or else it wont work for me
23:12:49	bluebrother	I'm not too fond of that RBBASE_DIR stuff.
23:14:51	domonoky1	why ? i think it could be clearer if we had the rockbox sources dir as start-dir for references to other rockbox code. instead of $$VAR/../../tools/bla
23:15:08	bluebrother	at least for the libs there is no need to use RBBASE_DIR, that works fine with _PRO_FILE_PWD_
23:15:48	bluebrother	we shouldn't use our own variables if Qt provides suitable ones unless necessary.
23:17:39	domonoky1	_PRO_FILE_PWD_ is long and not really fitting IMHO. paths like e:\rockbox\rbutil\rbutilqt\..\..\tools\rbspeexs just look bad.
23:18:37	bluebrother	what's bad about this? We had relative paths using upper levels in the past.
23:19:09	bluebrother	plus, when allowing out-of-tree builds I wouldn't want to restrict that to be on the same level as the Rockbox svn checkout.
23:19:20	domonoky1	yes, but they were relative, not absolute.
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23:19:50	bluebrother	which means that if I put the build directory below rbutil/ that replacement will fail, and thus (as _PRO_FILE_PWD_ isn't used) break at more places.
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23:19:52	domonoky1	and it isnt restricted to this. the rockbox source dir is determined out of the path to the .pro file
23:20:04	domonoky1	it wont fail
23:20:54	bluebrother	well, is PWD the PWD or the project file folder?
23:20:58	domonoky1	we construct the path to the rockbox source out of the path to the .pro file, and the use that to construct the absolute paths, that will work everywhere
23:21:07	bluebrother	if it's the project file folder then it should use _PRO_FILE_PWD_ instead.
23:21:54	domonoky1	that depends how you write the PWD. (with or without () ) the way its is its the project folder.
23:22:02	bluebrother	also, the include path doesn't need absolute paths.
23:22:19	domonoky1	but yes, using _PRO_FILE_PWD_ would make it clearer.
23:22:24	bluebrother	well, that's confusing. Using _PRO_FILE_PWD_ is clearer for taht.
23:22:37	bluebrother	so we should at least do that.
23:22:59	bertrik	I would like to be able to filter on target type in the bug tracker
23:23:04	domonoky1	i am fine with that.
23:23:19	voluspa	If I set REPEAT_START to 300 ticks in firmware/drivers/button.c and then get an instant repeat in file list mode when pressing a specific area of ca 8 pixels on a D2 touchscreen, how is that possible? Is there an even higher button control file?
23:23:33	domonoky1	but the INCLUDE needs absolute paths to work with qt4.5.0
23:24:06	bluebrother	urgh.
23:24:17	bluebrother	sounds like 4.5.0 is pretty much broken :(
23:25:04	domonoky1	if i dont give it absolute paths, the replacement system of qmake fails, and it points to my build-dir :-/
23:25:36	domonoky1	but if it works with absolute paths for all, i dont see a problem with that.
23:26:06	bluebrother	well, it works for me. Doesn't mean that it couldn't be broken with 4.5.0
23:26:11	domonoky1	there i also should replace the PWD
23:26:38	bluebrother	but at least PWD should go to make it clearer.
23:28:13	domonoky1	yes
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23:29:42	domonoky1	so i will commit it now. if you find some improvements or errors feel free to fix :-)
23:31:25	CIA-43	New commit by Domonoky (r22624): rbutil: modify buildsystem so you can build outside of the rbutilqt directoy. (similar to the normal buildsystem). Attention: Spaces in the path will ...
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23:41:09	domonoky1	now it shouldnt be too hard to add rbutil to the buildserver system. :-) although if we want to distribute the automatically generated rbtutil binarys it needs a bit more work
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23:42:52	bluebrother	I can't see much benefit in distributing autogenerated rbutil binaries or having it as configure target.
23:43:53	domonoky1	the benefit is that we never again have to release rbutil. just use "current" :-)
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23:44:26	GodEater	wouldn't all build clients need a static QT though ?
23:44:38	domonoky1	configure target would ease the build-server integration, but its also possible without it.
23:45:16	domonoky1	GodEater: sure clients need the right enviroment, but they also need the right things installed for rockbox now.
23:45:45	GodEater	true, it's just I've always failed at getting a statically built QT myself
23:46:05	domonoky1	if you add rbutil as a new "type" like arm sim etc, clients could tell if they can build rbutil.
23:46:45	bluebrother	domonoky1: well, that also opens the door for nice issues with half-baked development binaries. I _really_ prefer releases for end-user tools.
23:47:06	AlexP	domonoky1: Does it need doing on every source change?
23:47:18	AlexP	domonoky1: Wouldn't daily be OK?
23:47:24	domonoky1	AlexP: yes, sure
23:47:30	bluebrother	while automated builds would be nice I wouldn't distribute those binaries
23:47:33	domonoky1	daily would be fully ok.
23:48:02	*	AlexP prods Bagder to make the manual build output available somewhere (when the moment arises, not urgent) :)
23:48:04	bluebrother	GodEater: building Qt statically isn't really hard. You just need to compile it yourself (which takes ages)
23:48:07	domonoky1	i agree with not distributing the binarys, but i still want the automated building.
23:48:38	*	bluebrother wonders why domonoky1 was talking about "current rbutil binaries" earlier then
23:48:39	Bagder	ah right
23:48:54	domonoky1	bluebrother: i changed my mind :-)
23:49:04	bluebrother	and for simply having automated builds there is no need for static linking.
23:49:16	bluebrother	domonoky1: ah. That was fast :o
23:49:44	*	bluebrother only creates static binaries for releases but not for development
23:50:11	domonoky1	yes, not needing static linking helps to get more build-clients able to build rbutil :-)
23:50:30	GodEater	weird - last time I looked at the QT website, I could only find the SDK - not the source code
23:50:43	bluebrother	well, statically linking was never required. It's only to not ship the dll files (i.e. have a single binary)
23:51:38	bluebrother	GodEater: they started hiding it a bit. Plus, changing their name several times −− from trolltech to qtsoftware, now Nokia ... those managers can't decide gnah
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23:52:38	domonoky1	it got better again. its only 2 clicks from the homepage to get the source.
23:52:46	GodEater	yeah I've found it now
23:52:49	GodEater	downloading
23:53:44	domonoky1	now we need some perl / buildserver people to modify the buildserver system. any volunteers ? :-)
23:54:25	AlexP	domonoky1: If it is just building once a day I imagine it'd be better on the master like the manuals are
23:54:42	bluebrother	indeed.
23:54:44	rasher	Speaking of the build server, chances of getting checkwps in there?
23:54:52	domonoky1	AlexP: that wont work, we preverably want it build on lin/win and mac
23:54:53	*	bluebrother would like to see checkwps in the build table first
23:54:58	rasher	Maybe as a single target that does all of them
23:55:12	gevaerts	as soon as the build system supports source tree filters again I don't really see a reason to only build once a day
23:55:21	bluebrother	domonoky1: someone just need to figure out how to crosscompile for windows ...
23:55:22	AlexP	gevaerts: true
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23:55:38	gevaerts	that is sort of a prerequisite of course
23:55:41	rasher	gevaerts: source tree filters?
23:56:00	AlexP	rasher: i.e. don't build Rockbox on manual changes
23:56:04	domonoky1	bluebrother: crosscompiling on linux for windows wont show the same errors as building nativly on windows i would think.
23:56:05	rasher	Oh ah
23:56:08	gevaerts	rasher: my obfuscated name for the feature that used to not rebuild things on manual/ changes
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23:56:15	bluebrother	domonoky1: why that?
23:56:20	AlexP	Or in this case rbutil
23:56:58	domonoky1	different enviroment ? and can you crosscompile for mac ? (with both archs) better let the buildserver handle that with native clients.
23:57:41	bluebrother	well, the environment isn't that different. MinGW emulates a bit of POSIX.
23:58:11	AlexP	domonoky1: What do you build it in on Windows? And can the server dial in and request a build then upload it on native Windows?
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23:58:30	bluebrother	and the usual OS issues come from one OS getting overlooked, not from differences in the host OS itself.
23:58:44	domonoky1	AlexP: mingw, so i think it should be possible to run the build-client
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