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#rockbox log for 2009-09-18

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00:04:02DirtySkeM3work on vm winxp
00:04:34DirtySkeM3maybe it's a process on mc os running in back holding the ipod
00:08:30linuxstbbertrik: Still around?
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01:45:40shrivenTheSeven: I was able to get rockbox running. : ) thanks for your help!
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02:17:47JdGordon|kugel: does that fix even stop the C being displayed?
02:18:10kugelnot sure
02:18:23kugelI don't think so, but I haven't been able to see it lately anyway
02:18:43kugelI tried it on cabbie with a small-height AA and saw no C
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02:19:28JdGordon|just thinking about it now.... I tihnk the better way to do it is actually use a different token value for %?C and %C (which should be fairly doable in the parser)
02:20:00JdGordon|then regular %C can go back to doing the clear/drawwithout getting in the way of the check
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02:41:14kugelJdGordon|: how will that work? just add { ...,"?C",..., parse_albumart_conditional } to that array?
02:41:34JdGordon|no
02:41:54JdGordon|inside the funcion to parse the C token it will decide which to asign to the token
02:42:14JdGordon|I think one of the tokens used to do this but i changed it :p
02:42:33JdGordon|i dont remember which though
02:42:56kugelwell, the ?C gets the conditional token. it's just that parse_albumart_display() still also called for those
02:44:36JdGordon|the token doesnt know its the conditional though
02:46:38kugelI didn't fully understand the token business, but it seemed to me that for conditionals, a WPS_TOKEN_CONDITIONAL is inserted before the actual token, so that evaluate_conditional() is called with the original token. at the point where parse_albumart_display() is called it's already behind that step. but I may have observed it wrongly
02:47:19JdGordon|http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi/trunk/apps/gui/skin_engine/skin_parser.c?r1=22643&r2=22646 it was in fact the %C i changed this for
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02:49:01JdGordon|arg
02:49:08kugelhrm, the old function checks for coming up in the buffer '<', which is effectively the same check as I do in the patch
02:49:17kugel? and < always appear together
02:49:57*kugel moves the '<' a before "coming"
02:50:24kugeldid you drop that check because you thought it was for displaying next track album art?
02:50:27JdGordon|you didnt touch the parser
02:50:50JdGordon|no
02:51:08JdGordon|thats the #if 0'ed code
02:51:21kugelI changed that very function in my patch
02:51:36JdGordon|did your commit miss skin_parser?
02:51:53kugelI'm talking about FS #10599 which I didn't commit yet
02:52:27JdGordon|then what was the commit a few hoursa ago?
02:52:53kugel?C caused AA to be displayed
02:53:04kugeleven if no normal C was in the entire wps for example
02:53:19kugelthe fact that it's displayed in the wrong vp also was untouched
02:54:52kugelanyway, looking at the old code, it seems to me that the check for '<' just needs to be restored (in place of my *(wps_bufptr-2) != '?') check)
02:55:10JdGordon|not completly...
02:55:17JdGordon|then you lose the checking
02:56:08kugelthe old code actually goes back the tokens array :/
02:56:13kugelJdGordon|: what do you mean?
02:56:22JdGordon|if i get a chance tonight ill give it a look again
02:56:27JdGordon|big if though :(
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03:00:36kugelJdGordon: basically "if (*wps_bufptr == '<')" [old code] is equivalent to "*(wps_bufptr-2) != '?'" [my patch]. the old code checks for the previous token to be a conditional explicitely (I'm I the only one considering going backwards in the token array as bad?) too though.
03:00:52kugelI'm not sure what you mean by "then you lose the checking", care to explain?
03:01:02*kugel will read the logs
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03:06:53JdGordongoing backwards in the tokens array is just as bad/dangeours as going backwards in the wps_bufptr
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03:10:21mc2739JdGordon: kugel: thanks - the C is no longer showing - also, pixelma mentioned a problem with current track showing the next track info after switching wps, that problem seems to be fixed now also
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03:23:46CIA-43New commit by 03blue_dude (r22725): Fix subtle bug in limiter
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04:25:55froggymanis it possible to have the rockbox database ignore tags like 'the' before an artist, so for example if "The Beatles" was in the database it would be put by the B's
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05:29:50kkurbjun1does anyone oppose adding the M:Robe 500 to the unstable list?
05:31:18JdGordonI think saratoga who was doing the change was waiting to hear from you... so no
05:31:34kkurbjun1cool
05:32:12kkurbjun1saratoga: are you around?
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07:15:20CIA-43New commit by 03jdgordon (r22726): fix FS #10599 and do r22721 a slightly better way. the %C tag is internally converted to a different token for display and conditional check.
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07:22:24CIA-43New commit by 03jdgordon (r22727): FS #10602 - show the viewport label instead of an int in the debug output
07:24:03JdGordonholy crap! the green block is a bit much :p
07:24:51pixelmabecause people also got used to be able to download from the buil table (linked from the player name graphics in the tale head) - maybe it would be possible/nice to always show the build columns (at least those available), even if all is green?
07:25:17pixelmathat would also make an all green table look a bit more normal I guess
07:26:03JdGordonI tihnk Zagor said he was going to add a link to show all
07:26:47JdGordonif that first commit there causes any badness... can someone else revert it? thats about all the rockbox time I'm going to have untill sunday night
07:26:51pixelmathat's a different thing for me in this case
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07:29:04pixelmais the build table script also in SVN? (although I guess it's something else than basic html and css so maybe not for me)
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07:29:35JdGordonI assume it is
07:29:44JdGordonnot under the usual checkout though
07:30:27pixelmayeah, www chechout probablly
07:30:39pixelmaor probably
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07:33:01JdGordonsomething is not right still :(
07:33:52pixelmamy WPS still doesn't work correctly again?
07:34:49JdGordoni forgot about your one :p
07:34:58JdGordonsome other random one im testing, for a different bug
07:35:09JdGordonagain means it was working previously?
07:35:59JdGordoneek
07:36:10JdGordonthe aa is supposed to be in the right top corner yeah?
07:36:57pixelmasure, I haven't changed it for quite a while. Last revision I saw it working was r22608 (but haven't tested all revs after that)... yes
07:39:19pixelmaI could try to simplify it as much as possible and still showing the error today in the evening (if that still exists, I'm about to try) if this helps any
07:43:49JdGordonjust about fixed :)
07:45:17CIA-43New commit by 03jdgordon (r22728): Actually fix AA display... previous commit was borked
07:45:29*JdGordon is confident its all working now
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07:47:57JdGordonI tihnk....
07:48:39CIA-43New commit by 03vitja (r22729): tcc77x: add tcc77x_cscfg_bw() helper for external memory bus width setup
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08:01:57CIA-43New commit by 03vitja (r22730): i7: _backlight_init() turn backlight on, as we can miss panic message
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09:13:34kugelJdGordon: wth
09:13:45kugelI'm convinced my commit was correct anyway
09:15:20kugelat least the skin_display.c part
09:20:51kugelat least the first hunk in skin_display.c is wrong IMO. It's never entered (I had panicfs there), album art is actually drawn in draw_wps_images()
09:28:37kugelalso, sure is going backwards in the wps_bufptr just as bad, hence I said any other fix would just be a variant of my patch (which your commit is) and the only better fix is %Cd
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11:10:55CIA-43New commit by 03zagor (r22731): Added note about server move
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11:38:08linuxstbbertrik: Have you got any Meizu work pending (e.g. for the NAND)? I'm about to start looking at porting TheSeven's NAND/FTL code to Rockbox.
11:38:37bertriklinuxstb, no, I don't have anything pending in that area
11:38:59bertrikAs far as I can tell so far, the FTL used in the nano is not compatible with the meizus
11:40:09merbztlinuxstb: faster then light code is the shit
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11:44:21bertrikI guess I can probably re-use the low-level NAND code though
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11:45:29bertrikif possible, can you make a split between the NAND functions and the FTL on top of it?
11:45:37linuxstbbertrik: I've no idea how to abstract this code yet - so I'm planning on just hacking something together that works, and then I'll post a patch for people to look at. Hopefully it will becomee clearer, but I don't understand a line of that code...
11:45:54linuxstbbertrik: That's how it is currently split - a "nand.c" and "ftl.c"
11:46:58bertriklinuxstb, ok great, and I agree about making it *work* first :)
11:47:57linuxstbDid you see that Rockbox is now booting and I can browse the menus on the Nano2G?
11:48:20linuxstb(although I still have a few commits left to do - mainly crt0.S and the clickwheel driver)
11:48:29bertrikgreat! congratulations!
11:48:49bertrikI did see a comment that you were going to try it, but didn't know you succeeded
11:48:51linuxstbI don't envy your task of creating a Meizu keymap though...
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12:00:03rasherlinuxstb: Congrats!
12:00:13rasherHave there been "screenshots"?
12:00:36linuxstbhttp://173.78.93.52:8080/rockbox.jpg
12:00:58rasherHurray
12:12:25LinusNwow!!!!!!!!!
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12:26:04rasherDoes anyone know if the new ipod classics are actually different?
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12:46:37linuxstbrasher: I don't think anyone has investigated them yet.
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14:20:07CIA-43New commit by 03zagor (r22732): Moved some news to history
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14:53:46Zagorehrm, maybe that wasn't such a good idea (the front page)
14:56:03dionoeamaybe splitting it in 2 columns would help
14:56:24Zagorthat would make nearly all lines wrap
14:57:24dionoeahmmm
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14:58:24Zagormaybe Mr Someone should take a new stab at getting our new fancy design working
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15:12:05pyro_maniac1Zagor: what is the case for samsung yh 820/920 being unusable?
15:12:33pyro_maniac1and the yh 925gs is completely missing
15:13:24Zagorgood question. I just made a quick list from the TargetStatus page. I suppose all-green there means at least "unstable"
15:13:38pyro_maniac1yes
15:13:49pyro_maniac1only manual is missing
15:13:57ZagorI'll move it then
15:14:40pyro_maniac1thx
15:15:06saratogapyro_maniac1: do yo uhave install directions?
15:15:27pyro_maniac1install directions?
15:15:32saratogaah looks like kugel wrote them
15:15:44saratogaalthough theres no binaries
15:16:02saratoga"Compile the bootloader from SVN"
15:16:07pyro_maniac1for rbutil?
15:16:16saratogaseems a little advanced for a target whe're going to put on the front page
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15:16:43pyro_maniac1are they still missing?
15:17:09saratogaZagor: might want to hold off on putting up the YH players
15:17:17*Zagor reverts :)
15:17:19pyro_maniac1kugel planed to release them
15:18:26saratogaIMO we should require something very similar to the SansaAMS page before we add a target to the front page
15:19:29Zagorsaratoga: specifically?
15:19:34saratogabootloader binaries linked (probably on the forums so they can't be edited), a status table, current issues, and concise directions
15:20:04saratogabasically something that a non-developer can navigate quickly
15:20:06ZagorI don't quite see how it can be rbutil supported without bootloader
15:20:38Zagoror, well, I can see but I think we should perhaps make that definition a bit more explicit
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15:21:22saratogayeah maybe a "(not yet released)" note
15:21:38saratogaour rbutil release is from june anyway, so lots of stuff in svn isn't in the build
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15:36:04ZagorI'm not thrilled about the idea of using the forums as a file repository
15:36:51AsaelReiterZagor: Have you an idea why the web-client does not work?
15:37:26ZagorAsaelReiter: i'll check
15:38:01saratogaZagor: I suppose putting them on the wiki is probably pretty safe given how closely its watched and how difficult it is to get access
15:39:04AsaelReiterZagor: I think that it began when you shutted down the site, so I tell you
15:39:08Zagorsaratoga: we can add protection to individual pages, so only a group of trusted people can update for example BootloaderBinaries
15:39:24ZagorAsaelReiter: yes, cgiirc wasn't installed on the new server
15:39:38saratogado we already have a developers group on the wiki?
15:39:47ZagorI don't think so
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15:42:18zagor_testnow it works
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15:43:47Zagorscorche: we had a web chat cloak, didn't we? it needs to be updated.
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15:47:51DoctoRHi people! Sorry for my bad English for first. I know that loader for 2nd gen iPod Nano is ready. what about Rockbox for 2nd gen? Is developing in progress?
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15:49:15ZagorDoctoR: yes: http://173.78.93.52:8080/rockbox.jpg
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15:55:18DoctoRI see "Connection timeout" for this adress.
15:56:31Zagormaybe your firewall doesn't allow you to reach port 8080
15:57:08gevaertsZagor: can you still reach it?
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15:57:21Zagoroh, it was cached
15:57:27Zagorsaving
15:58:18DoctoRstill nothing there :(
15:58:54Zagorlinuxstb-nano2g.jpg">http://bjorn.haxx.se/linuxstb-nano2g.jpg
15:59:38Zagormoved it to linuxstb-nano2g.jpg">http://bjorn.haxx.se/rockbox/linuxstb-nano2g.jpg
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15:59:53DoctoRCool! I see it now!
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16:01:13DoctoRHow soon it will be available?
16:01:22Zagorhaha, it can take a looong time
16:01:56ZagorI don't know enough about it to answer in detail though
16:03:09DoctoRWell, it's nice to know that someone developing it anyway.
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16:13:51linuxstbDoctoR: You can install Rockbox now, but it doesn't do anything yet apart from let you browse the menus (there is no NAND driver to access the disk). Although I'm working on that now... When that's working (and I fix a few other things), plugins should start working... Next will be to get audio playback working, which I've already managed in a test environment...
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16:14:26*linuxstb can't say when he'll finish any of that though...
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16:21:33rasherPretty impressive still
16:22:15*linuxstb wishes we had this amount of the progress on the Classic...
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16:28:07linuxstbn1s: You heard that the entry address for the notes exploit on the 4g has been found? So code can now be executed (just the same stage as the 1st gen Classic though)
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16:33:19n1slinuxstb: aha, maybe i should look into that!
16:33:25n1sany links?
16:33:42linuxstbn1s: Not really - maybe something is in l4n.cluster.com
16:34:07linuxstbn1s: The next step is for someone with a 4G to build a UART cable so that the RAM/ROM can be dumped.
16:35:43n1shm, not really something i can do
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16:36:24linuxstbAfter that will be lots of disassembly and reverse-engineering...
16:36:50linuxstbYou should lurk in #linux4nano-dev if you're interested.
16:37:32n1shopefully it's similar to the earlier SoC's iirc it's the same chip used in the ipod touch 2g
16:37:37*n1s lurks
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16:57:38kkurbjun1do I just need to update the www to include the M:robe 500 as unstable, or does someone need to do a manual sync after I change the page?
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16:59:05Zagorkkurbjun: the latter
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17:00:01Zagorwe need to write down the classification criteria in a wiki page
17:00:42kkurbjun1Zagor.. it looks like I don't have access to my main machine to edit the www in svn and I won't for a while.. would it be possible for you to add it to the list
17:00:58kkurbjun1the 500 is more than ready for unstable status in my opinion
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17:01:42ZagorI can do it
17:02:07saratogaTargetClassifications an ok name for the unstable/stable rules?
17:02:27Zagorsure
17:02:42kkurbjun1Zagor: Thanks, I appreciate it
17:05:07linuxstbsaratoga: "TargetStatus" already has a classification paragraph - you could just modify it there (handy to have it in the same place as the targets)
17:05:41linuxstbi.e. have a definition of the classification, then the list of targets which meet those criteria.
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17:08:19PaulJamZagor: it seems as if the pages http://www.rockbox.org/since33.html and http://www.rockbox.org/since-4weeks.html don't update anymore.
17:08:27saratogalinuxstb: ok
17:08:32linuxstbPaulJam: Perfect timing ;)
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17:56:51JdGordonkugel: the first hunk is used to clear the AA area when it is disabled in a conditional... you wont see it if you do %?C<Vda|Vdb> but you will if you do %?mh<%C|>
17:57:03JdGordongoing backwards in the token array is completly safe
17:57:24JdGordonand that code does the exact same thing as what adding a new token to the language would do, but keeps the user ignorant
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19:08:40Blue_DudeHey, quick question: for Rockbox targets, if you right shift a negative integer, is the sign bit handles correctly? IOW, if you right shift -100, will you get -50?
19:10:15BagderC doesn't define the behavior of signs on right shifts
19:11:02Blue_DudeExactly. But it could be handled that way. I wanted to make sure that our targets did. Or am I stuck with division?
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19:14:25paulk_Hello ! I'd like to know if rb->splashf is able to print a double ?
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19:17:22paulk_is %lf used to print a double in the rockbox api ?
19:17:40linuxstbpaulk_: I don't think so, no
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19:22:11paulk_Does someone knows how to convert a long to a char with the rockbox API ?
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19:24:45JdGordon|linuxstb: cool!
19:26:24AlexPlinuxstb: congrats :)
19:26:46Bagderrocking
19:27:43JdGordon|boxing?
19:28:01Bagderoh yes, rocking boxing is the thing!
19:28:21AlexPfoxy boxing?
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19:31:12n1slinuxstb: nice
19:31:26*linuxstb passes on the cutos to TheSeven - he's just been doing a lot of copy/paste recently...
19:31:45domonokykudos to TheSeven :-)
19:32:33linuxstbYes s/cutos/kudos/ ;)
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19:33:08pixelmacute kudos ;)
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21:07:02domonokyfirst attempt a update notice function in rbutil. Using the file listing output from the download server. http://pastebin.com/m1a25306 Only problem is the linux64bit build. is there a define so we we are on linux 64bit ?
21:07:11domonokys/we/know
21:12:27bluebrotherdomonoky: none that I know about. Does your code handle update versions like 1.0.7a?
21:13:01domonokyit should, i should make a few more tests, and solve the linux 64bit issue..
21:13:46domonoky_LP64_ might be the define we want...
21:14:35bluebrotherhow about __ia64__?
21:14:37bluebrotherhttp://predef.sourceforge.net/prearch.html#sec7
21:15:39bluebrotherlinuxstb: any objections on moving mknkboot.c to the beastpatcher directory and that below rbutil/?
21:16:01domonoky__ia64__ only matches intel 64 if i see correctly.
21:16:52domonokyupdate versions should work because: "1.0.7a" > "1.0.7" if treated lexically.
21:17:16bluebrotherhmm, right, but there's __amd64__
21:17:32bluebrotherwell, and treating lexically works correctly for 1.9 < 1.10?
21:18:29bluebrotherthat's one of the things that made me not finish my attempt (time being the bigger problem, but that was the issue that made it a bit less-trivial)
21:20:59amiconnWhat's the problem regarding 64 bit?
21:21:45bluebrotherhow to recognize, so a 64bit build of rbutil can check if a new 64bit build is available
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21:25:24gartralhello everyone, did the server switch break rbutil? i cant use it to update my DAPs anymore (i now own 4 e250s, all v1)
21:26:14domonokybluebrother: true, it would fail there, i will need to improve the check :-)
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21:27:29bluebrotherdomonoky: from what I figured last time I looked into it was that you need to split up the version number. Possible other problems would be different number of digits (1.0 vs. 1.0.1, and 1.2.2 vs. 1.2.2.1)
21:27:46domonokyyes,
21:29:05bluebrothergartral: I'm not up to date with current status, but the update caused a few glitches in that field, unfortunately
21:29:56amiconnHmm, this is platform dependent, so imo __amd64__ is probably the way to go
21:30:51amiconnBtw, __ia64__ means itanium - afaik nobody tried rbutil on that arch so far
21:33:20amiconnThe 32 bit linux build should perhaps also check for its specific architecture
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21:34:26domonokyamiconn: and what is the define for intel 64 bit system (non-itanium) ?
21:34:51domonokyor is the 64bit rbutil build we provide only for amd64 cpus ?
21:36:00amiconnNo, it's for all x86_64 cpus. The define is called __amd64__ for historic reasons. AMD invented the x86_64 extension, Intel licensed it later
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21:36:44domonokyah..
21:37:10kugelour strcmp file does the check by comparing LONG_MAX :p
21:38:35amiconnThat's something different, as it checks for generic 64 bit environment
21:38:54amiconnThe rbutil build is always targeted at a specific architecture
21:39:55amiconnAnd btw, that LONG_MAX check is sub-optimal on Win64. (Win64 is just P64, unlike linux on x86_64)
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22:50:20domonokycan someone help me with a regexp ? i need a regexp which extract the version number out of a rbutil file name on the server. this is what i have currently: "rbutilqt-v([0-9]+\\.?[0-9]*\\.?[0-9]*[a-z]?)\\..*"
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22:50:46domonokybut it fails if there is no . directly after the version number.
22:51:17domonokyand also it only works if there are 2-3 parts in the version.. if there are more or less it fails too.
22:53:19kugeldomonoky: you could also do it with the major & minor combo
22:53:40kugelparsing each number seperately with atoi()
22:54:25kugelhaving 3 parts is not uncommon
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22:54:33domonokyregexp is much nicer (if i can get a correct regexp for this..
22:55:14bluebrotherdomonoky: wouldn't it be easier to simply QString::split() the filename?
22:55:15domonokykugel: i just have to deal with what we have. and its 2-3 numbers and potentially a char at the end. like "1.0.7b"
22:55:19*kugel would prefer 1.21.1 over 1.21a
22:55:43domonokyit should also cope with 1.21.1a :-)
22:55:47bluebrotheralso, we had m instead of v in the past. Would be good if it could handle that as well :)
22:56:15domonokytrue, have think about the version extraction some more..
22:56:32*kugel doesn't see much point of letters in version *numbers*
22:56:42bluebrotherplus, possibly deal with a 4th digit. Once we stop using numbers like 1.0.7b and make it 1.0.7.1 instead
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22:56:48domonokybut i have now a compare function whitch can cope with all those varaints. :-)
22:57:01domonokyi just need to get the extraction right...
22:57:19domonokykugel: we already have this version number. so we have to live with it.
22:57:35Zagorbluebrother: who would be using 1.0.7.1? who do I need to smack?
22:57:43kugelyou mean the numbering is impossible to change?
22:57:58domonokykugel: just take a look at the download server.
22:58:23domonokyit has to cope with what is on the server already.
22:58:23bluebrotherkugel: should such a code not be able to cope what we have *right now*? Regardless if you consider the naming good or bad?
22:58:23kugelwhat would I see?
22:58:25gartralwouldn't adding a *letter* to version numbers make it a version *code*?
22:58:54domonokykugel: something like rbutilqt-v1.0.7b.zip :-)
22:58:56gevaertsgartral: it wouldn't change anything
22:58:56bluebrothergartral: not necessarily. Once can treat something like 7b the same as 7.2
22:59:01kugelbluebrother: not considering that the update notification is only interesting for future versions.
22:59:43domonokykugel: but it still has to search the server and cope with what is there.
22:59:49Zagordomonoky: I don't see any such version
22:59:53kugelwould it make things easier to have a LATEST file in that dir which just has the number?
22:59:57domonokyZagor: only for win32
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23:00:12Zagorah, lookie. no, who do I smack? :)
23:00:16bluebrotherdomonoky: why not try this: split at the dot. Then retrieve the numbers, starting at the first digit. If a letter occurs, treat it as a number (with a = 1) for the next digit.
23:00:20Zagor*now
23:00:31bluebrotherthen multiply the numbers and add them. Compare the result.
23:00:39domonokykugel: a file would make it easier for rbutil. but it means we have to care about one more info file.
23:01:29Zagoryou don't have to care about the 'b', since there are already later versions. just never be that silly again.
23:01:31bluebrotherkugel: a file has various problems. First, it needs to get maintained manually. Second, as binaries come in later at times it needs to distinguish between the build versions (OS, plus 64bit)
23:01:38domonokybluebrother: i already have the compare function, so i only need to extract the version string correctly.. but not using a regexp for this might be fine..
23:01:48kugelI don't exactly see why it needs to cope with older versions. those have a minor version number which will never make it enter the last comparison stage, or am I wrong?
23:02:28kugelthe latest is 1.2.2, any 1.0.7b is already right out at the .0
23:02:29bluebrotherdomonoky: well, if you calculate an (internal) number from the version the comparison is pretty easy :)
23:03:06bluebrotherhandling letters isn't a big deal, if one takes a bit time to figure a good way to handle it :P
23:03:19domonokybluebrother: for comparison, i just check section by section, converting it to a number. if it contains a char, i compare i split it and compare seperatly.
23:05:24domonokyi just need to extract the equivalent of rbutils version out of the filename on the server.. everything else already works fine. so we can use strange versions numbers also in the future :-)
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23:10:51bluebrotherif we want strange version numbers we need to do things like 2000 -> xp -> vista -> 7 :P
23:13:09Zagorword's is even better: 5 -> 95 -> 2000 -> xp -> 2003 -> 7
23:13:20Zagorat least I think there was a word xp?
23:13:34*bluebrother remembers Office XP
23:13:38gevaertsZagor: there was 6
23:13:53Zagorgevaerts: ah, that makes it all much better :-)
23:13:59bluebrotherand it's 2007, not 7 AFAIK
23:14:06Zagorreally?
23:14:07*pixelma checks channels
23:14:22gevaertsZagor: and of course 4 and 5 didn't exist for Microsoft OSes :)
23:15:33JdGordon|Zagor: word or wordpad? word is 2003 -> 2007 -> 2010
23:15:43*Zagor changed channel :)
23:21:30TheSevencan anybody tell me what's the recommended way to wipe the data cache in rockbox?
23:21:42TheSeven(i mean the cpu's cache)
23:21:54TheSevenare there any standardized apis for that?
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23:33:42kugelBagder, Zagor: can we have the now unstable ports on the current builds download page?
23:34:20BagderI think we should
23:34:26kugeli.e. d2 and fuze/e200v2
23:34:43Zagoryes. but we need more pictures!
23:34:58Zagorwe can't have links without pictures. what would people say?
23:35:29kugeloh, and I wanted to add yh925. I need to get around making a official bootloader for it
23:35:48kugelZagor: ah right, they need to wait then!
23:36:13kugelwhat size is expected for the pictures? yh925 and fuze can take the svn from the manual as the other targets do
23:36:15moosI guess that the e200v2 isn't really a problem ;)
23:36:35kugelmoos: I was about to write fuze/e200v2 for a moment actually :p
23:36:35CIA-43New commit by 03bluebrother (r22733): Fix signedness mismatch.
23:36:53kugelsvg, not svn
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23:37:01mooskugel: hehe :)
23:37:34pixelmathe Fuze has an svg too IIRC (so easy to make the png)
23:38:08pixelmashotofadds told me he had a D2 svg prepared
23:38:15roolkuZagor: it appears that the http://build.rockbox.org/data/xxxxx-clients.html page doesn't include the clients that had all their builds canceled - is that correct?
23:39:12roolkuZagor: since you removed the full build table it is now difficult for me to determine if any of my clients have died
23:39:37kugelpixelma: that's what I meant above
23:39:48roolkuZagor: are still planning to make the full build table available on a different page?
23:39:50Zagorthe list includes all participating clients, even ones with all-cancelled builds
23:40:00Zagoryes I am
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23:40:21Zagorthis is how it looks: http://build.rockbox.org/data/22727-clients.html
23:40:39aidyhi
23:40:54roolkuhttp://build.rockbox.org/data/22729-clients.html has only ~35 out of the 57 ?
23:40:54Zagorbut it appears the list has being cut off lately
23:41:08aidyjust out of the blue, could somebody add a wiki page for touch screen feature suggestions?
23:41:21Zagorand http://build.rockbox.org/data/22728-clients.html has ... 6!
23:41:32pixelmakugel: the small pictures for the download pages are made from the svg, using Inkscape's export feature and the widest dimension set to 80 pixels
23:41:32Zagorsomething is wrong
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23:43:47kugelpixelma: automatically or manually?
23:44:17pixelmamanually
23:44:50pixelmayou have to switch the text layer off too
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