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#rockbox log for 2010-01-23

00:02:34n1ssaratoga: aha
00:03:33saratogaif we ever manage to get in contact with him i favor giving him SVN access
00:04:00n1syeah, a bit weird, not answering mails...
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00:04:11Mode"#rockbox +v fml " by gevaerts (n=fg@rockbox/developer/gevaerts)
00:04:50saratogait could be that we just don't have his current email, or that he does not read english
00:05:31saratogaI intend to commit his codec related tasks after the release, if other people would look at his plugin related stuff that would be great
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00:06:40Mode"#rockbox +v mikroflops_ " by gevaerts (n=fg@rockbox/developer/gevaerts)
00:06:43fmlhello. In manual/platform/iriverh100.tex, the option 'h100' is defined. Shouldn't 'iriverh100' be used instead? The same for other players. Or does the recent renaming not for this options?
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00:07:20gevaertsfml: I'd say "yes, but later". Let's not risk breaking the manuals for the release :)
00:08:28fmlgevaerts: I'll correct the fractals section in the manual then
00:09:02n1sfml: since you did some work on the instrument tuner plugin, do you have an idea about fs#10635 ? (the plugin records while playback is still playing which works on some targets, was this ever intended?)
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00:10:46n1seh, s/works on some targets/works on some targets and crashes on others/
00:11:36fmln1s: sorry, no, I have no idea. I'm not familiar with the deep internals, I only made small bits for the UI
00:14:27CIA-44New commit by 03alle (r24315): Fix spacing and also use the correct platform name (we're not that far with renaming them)
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01:40:25*scorche looks around
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01:52:18archivatorOut of curiosity, has anyone researched flite integration into rockbox? I saw it's a GSoC idea but are we certain that the targets are powerful enough to handle tts?
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01:55:03AlexPThere was a patch at one point for a tts
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01:55:10AlexPBut there was a licence issue
01:55:13Mode"#rockbox +o AlexP " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.)
01:55:41AlexPI *think* that was espeak
01:56:28archivatorAlexP: found it! FS #7660.
01:56:34archivatorOkay, that proves that it's possible.
01:56:45Mode"#rockbox -R " by gevaerts (n=fg@rockbox/developer/gevaerts)
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01:57:03archivatorFlite should be a better choice, imho.. Integrating it into core rockbox is another story though
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01:57:47AlexParchivator: I think that we'd love to see a patch :)
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01:57:59archivatorAlexP: saving it for GSoC :)
01:58:04AlexPhehe :)
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02:00:08 Quit fyrestorm ("Ur skills' fireproof like a wooden panel -- U got feds talking leet on your IRC channel!")
02:04:07gevaertsTheSeven: maybe you get bitten by the bit in meizu_dfu that patches the data with crc and friends?
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02:07:25TheSeveni already removed that
02:07:44TheSevenfrom looking at the code, I can't really explain that behavior
02:08:06TheSevenI'm just going to rewrite that in python and see if that works better
02:08:28gevaertsthe brute force approach to debugging :)
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02:14:21Mode"#rockbox -o AlexP " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.)
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02:21:26dnizmmHi all. It seems we are again seeing javascript based flood spam. If you are experiencing this, please do not click the links in the messages as they will cause you to repeat the spam. More information is available at http://peoplesprimary.com. Thanks!
02:21:26dnizmmHi all. It seems we are again seeing javascript based flood spam. If you are experiencing this, please do not click the links in the messages as they will cause you to repeat the spam. More information is available at http://peoplesprimary.com. Thanks!
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02:21:55ovdHi all. It seems we are again seeing javascript based flood spam. If you are experiencing this, please do not click the links in the messages as they will cause you to repeat the spam. More information is available at http://peoplesprimary.com. Thanks!
02:21:55ovdHi all. It seems we are again seeing javascript based flood spam. If you are experiencing this, please do not click the links in the messages as they will cause you to repeat the spam. More information is available at http://peoplesprimary.com. Thanks!
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02:22:01Mode"#rockbox +R " by gevaerts (n=fg@rockbox/developer/gevaerts)
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02:22:07Unhelpfulsometimes starting over is faster than finding the bug. i suspect that when rewriting a routine one is unconsciously guided by things one realized while writing it the first time, even if the first implementation is not referred to (which it ought not to be if it's buggy)
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02:22:40gevaertsIn case it's not clear, those links are dangerous
02:23:09soapwhy the -R in the first place?
02:23:14Unhelpfulindeed. nice cover though, pretending to be notifying us of the ongoing spam problem. :)
02:23:26scorchesoap: a test to see if the coast was clear yet
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02:23:50soapnot like there isn't a #freenode channel to monitor for that.
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02:25:46scorchehow would that help?...it isnt like there is an "all-clear" message in there...
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02:26:28scorchethat was a fast one =)
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02:27:55soapthey're all that fast. Which is why a bot which waited 30 seconds and autovoiced would work.
02:28:09gevaertssoap: except that they can't
02:28:23gevaertsNot the way this particular attack works
02:28:48soapno, silly, a bot on our end.
02:29:02gevaertsoh of course
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02:49:19Mode"#rockbox -o soap " by soap (n=soap@rockbox/staff/soap)
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02:50:39Topic"Now in freeze for upcoming 3.5! | Please read before speaking: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IrcGuidelines | Please direct offtopic/social chat to #rockbox-community | This channel is logged at http://www.rockbox.org/irc | We're currently suffering from a spam attack. You should gain voice in 30 seconds, if you find you can't say anything, contact a channel operator, or ask for help in #freenode" by soap (n=soap@rockbox/staff/soap)
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05:19:29SpaceghostI am thinking in buy a sansa e200, but probabily I can't know if is a v1 or v2
05:20:01rasherIf you buy a new unit, it's almost guaranteed to be a v2
05:20:02Spaceghostbut in the worst of case (v2) the only problem that I will have is that I need boot original firmware to add files?
05:20:35krazykitfor the time being, yes
05:20:53mc2739it boots to the OF automatically
05:21:10mc2739when you insert ths usb cable
05:21:19Spaceghostoh
05:21:28Spaceghostso, that isn't a big problem, no?
05:21:38Spaceghostonly that?
05:21:43mc2739no, it is not a problem
05:22:25Spaceghostsuppor of other parts? drivers bad or better? for recorder that is a bad target? I only can record with 32kbps?
05:23:12Spaceghostsomeone read if whit a modding is possible add a external microphone? or do something for upgrade the recorder?
05:23:29Spaceghostupgrade isn't the best word, sorry
05:23:58Spaceghost*improve
05:24:08Spaceghostthis is better
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05:24:57mc2739recording is supported from the mic and the radio
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05:25:35mc2739you are able to record in several different formats
05:26:10Spaceghostbad the quality of that, in front to others targets
05:26:15Spaceghostis bad, medium or good?
05:26:59mc2739I don't have other targets, but I would say that quality is good
05:27:00Spaceghostfor example, if in the future the ipod nano 4th will be support by rockbox
05:27:24Spaceghostthis will be a better recorder of a sansa e200?
05:27:44Spaceghosts/of/that/
05:27:56mc2739I don't know about the ipod
05:29:24Spaceghostdo you have a e200? How long ago?
05:31:06Spaceghostdo you beleived that thumwheel easilied spoil, or keep walking as the first day?
05:31:12Spaceghostthe controls are good for you?
05:31:17mc2739I have an e280, e270r and e260v2 - have had them for about 18 months
05:31:39mc2739the controls work fine for me
05:34:55soapE200s have a weak headphone jack to mainboard connection.
05:35:07soapeasily destroyed.
05:35:36soapI prophylacticly glued mine to be safe.
05:35:51*Unhelpful simply doesn't listen to music on his ;)
05:37:44Spaceghostsoap, that is documentation in some place?
05:38:19Spaceghostdocumented
05:42:48soapit /was/ in the wiki IIRC, let me look.
05:43:19soaphttp://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaRepair
05:44:47Spaceghostthanks
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05:52:52Spaceghostmc2739, is possible open photos and other things throw the microSD when if you have rockbox on the e200?
05:53:15Spaceghostand is possible save the records in the microSD when run rocbox?
05:54:34mc2739yes, anything that can be done on the internal sd also works on the microSD
05:57:01Spaceghostso, is possible charge throw the microSD, no? despite the USB doesn't work in rockbox with v2
05:58:13mc2739no, you can't charge through microSD, but you can charge with the usb cable while in Rockbox
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08:18:44Unhelpfulhrm, it looks like approximately 20KiB of data could be used to provide reciprocals + fixing factors for >50% of the divisions performed by the ape codec. the table could be stored in iram - the ape codec has about 60KiB of iram free on PP. a single test on the divisor could then determine whether the division can be performed by loading the table values and doing a umull + fixing the result
08:21:27Unhelpfuldivision by this method could be done in about 12-15 cycles, at a rough guess... that's as many as are used to normalize the divisor on armv4 before doing calculating a quotient, so it looks like half of the divisions the codec does could be sped up by a rather large amount
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08:50:33pixelmaSpaceghost: the v1 e200 are really a bit limited in their recording capabilities (sample rate is limited to 22.05kHz and no line-in). There are other Rockbox devices that are much better for recordings. I'm mainly thinking about the H300 and H100, the latter even has optical in and out but they are hard to find and quite expensive. I don't know if the v2 e200s have the same limits as the v1 - I guess maybe sample rate is no issue anymore but the
08:50:33pixelma line-in could still be a problem
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10:00:32Notschlachterhi there... i have two questions about the rockbox port for the ipod nano 2g.
10:01:32Notschlachterit runs very well but i have two problems
10:02:48Notschlachterwhen i want to copy files with drag and drop to the ipod the transfer stops immediately after i have started it, since the ipod is not in the so called "disc mode".
10:03:11Notschlachterdo i have to start the ipod in disc mode, evertime i want to copy something to it?
10:04:12Notschlachterthe manual says i simply can place them with drag and drop.
10:09:04Notschlachtermy second question is if i can change the items in the main menu of rockbox? is it possible to place a standy option in the main menu?
10:10:05UtchybannNotschlachter: 2nd question: I think nobody have found a way to put the nano2g in sleep mode (as the OFW do).
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10:11:21Notschlachterokay... is there a way to place a power-off option? this would be enough for the moment.
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10:11:54UtchybannNotschlachter: 1st question: do you have the usb logo on screen when plugged ?
10:12:32Notschlachteryes... i think so. there appears the "multimedia mode" when i plug in the usb cable.
10:12:49Notschlachterbut i am not able to copy something to the ipod.
10:13:39Utchybannit is possible to had a menu entry, just edit the code. If you can't code, you have to ask the rockbox dev team to add the feature.
10:13:45Notschlachterhave i made a mistake?
10:14:20UtchybannI think, select+play button is fine to power off my ipod (and it is the way the OFW works).
10:14:27Notschlachteri want to face the challenge of coding if the task is not too difficult. :)
10:14:37Utchybannfor your usb problem, try to disable the usb HID.
10:14:41Notschlachterok
10:14:51Notschlachteri will try it
10:15:06pixelmaisn't "long play" the usual way to turn an Ipod off?
10:15:31pixelmaI mean holding the play button for a little longer
10:15:35Utchybannpixelma: your are right. My mistake. 'long play' is the way.
10:15:43Notschlachterthats the problem Utchybann. my click-wheel seems to be damaged. the play button does not function properly anymore.
10:16:17Notschlachtersometimes i have to press it about a minute before something happens.
10:19:18UtchybannNotschlachter: you have to find the RB shutdown function and just add a menu entry. It should not be to hard.
10:19:56Notschlachterthis would be great. :)
10:20:07Notschlachterwhere can i edit the menu entrys?
10:23:08Notschlachtermay the documentation be helpful with this problem?
10:23:53UtchybannNotschlachter: grep is your friend (is you are using linux).
10:25:01Notschlachterno... i have currently running windows 7 on my PCs.
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10:26:58pixelmayou need to check out, edit the code and compile a build yourself (there is documentation in our wiki on how to do this). I *believe* adding the shutdown menu entry isn't too hard as it exists for a target where shutting down with a long press of a button wasn't possible, so I *think* you only need to enable it for the 2nd gen Nano. The button press method is preferred as it is quicker and won't clutter up the menu so the menu entry won't be added
10:26:58pixelma to other targets by default
10:27:40Utchybannsys_poweroff() seems to be the poweroff function.
10:28:54NotschlachterUtchybann: your first tip to turn off usb-hid worked. no i can copy files without problems. :)
10:31:28Notschlachterand the shutdown thing... i will care about it later.
10:31:49Notschlachterthank you guys... you helped me out very much. :)
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10:42:42fuze-newuserhi
10:43:33fuze-newuserI'v got a new Sansa Fuze and I have a couple of question before rockboxing it ...
10:43:48fuze-newuserHow can I know whic version it is?
10:44:52fuze-newuserIf v1, do you think is better if a wait fr next (frozen development already i believe?) v3.5 of RockBox?
10:45:23fuze-newuser...or that is going to take some time, and is preferble to rockbox it manually?
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11:23:45Unhelpfuladd an mlas or an mul + cmp to that to make it work for all divisors without weird/complex code. mlas doesn't seem to cost anything extra on arm7tdmi according to arm system developer's guide?
11:23:59Unhelpful(compared to a straight mla, that is)
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13:26:45Jaykayhi, FS #9794 seems to be fixed now, only h100 and h300 have the -1 error in their manual
13:30:16AlexPJaykay: Is it only the irivers that use -1, have the others all had a release since the error message was changed?
13:32:24AlexPThis is the problem with something like that - changing the manual is trivial, finding the correct info for all targets is harder
13:34:57JaykayAlexP: i don't know which target has which message, but 1 year ago the manual said for every target "-1 error", then it was changed to "file not found" except for h100 and h300 (r20079)
13:38:00AlexPJaykay: OK, good find
13:38:33AlexPI imagine all bootloaders have been changed to that (I'll check), but the h*00 haven't had a new release
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14:27:40TelosHey, just popped in to check if Rockbox had been ported to the Fuze v2 yet. Last I checked was in early November, so I'm a little out of the loop.
14:29:50gevaertsno
14:36:58Telosdamn it. This thing's basically useless with it's default ui.
14:39:17TheSevengevaerts: FYI, the problem yesterday was indeed meizu_dfu, not the ipod. No idea whether that's a bug, or caused by my build setup (mingw-gcc and libusb-win32), but using the python (pyusb) version i wrote tonight, it works perfectly
14:39:40gevaertsTheSeven: yes, I saw that in the logs. Weird
14:40:10TheSevenit's definitely caused by 0x1a bytes
14:40:40TheSevenif there is one of them in the file, the first block is sent over and over, instead of the next ones
14:40:59TheSevenneed to check how it behaves when the 0x1a isn't in the first block, but i have to run now
14:41:05TheSevenI'll investigate that later today
14:41:15gevaertsreally weird
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15:31:42paulk_hello! I'm trying to compile rockbox with Fedora 12. I remeember that there was a page on the wiki that tells how to set-up the compilator. I don't find it again…
15:32:44gevaertshttp://www.rockbox.org/wiki/CrossCompiler ?
15:33:42paulk_gevaerts: thanks :)
15:35:26paulk_arm-elf-gcc is in /usr/local/arm-elf/bin but make doesn't find it…
15:35:37gevaertsis it in your path?
15:36:03paulk_$PATH ?
15:36:05gevaertsyes
15:37:03paulk_no, it's not. Do u know how I can add it ?
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15:37:43gevaertsthe crosscompiler wiki page explains that
15:38:20paulk_okay
15:41:31paulk_I have done : "PATH=/usr/local/arm-elf/bin:$PATH" But will PATH be the same after reboot ?
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15:48:35gevaertsif you followed the procedure from the wiki, yes
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17:15:25lyon8hi guys
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17:16:08rasherHello
17:16:09lyon8short question: is there an alarmclock for rockbox? (i'm running rockbox on a sansa e260 v2)
17:17:01AlexPYes where the hardware allows - check the manual
17:17:38pixelmaAlexP: not completely true (irrelevant for his question though I think)
17:17:43funmanlyon8: http://download.rockbox.org/daily/manual/rockbox-sansae200v2/rockbox-buildch5.html#x8-1010005.12 ?
17:18:00AlexPpixelma: In what way?
17:18:47gevaertsfunman: that mentions the sleep timer. Do the AMS sansas have RTC wakeup?
17:19:47AlexPoh, I missed the v2
17:19:47pixelmaAlexP: the coldfire Irivers and the Iaudio X5 and M5 could have alarm too and there is a patch in the tracker for this but it also needs new and changed bootloaders for those (Irivers *were* done but well, broken, with the patch Iaudios were not)
17:19:58AlexPthe H100 can't
17:20:05AlexPnot without a hardware mod anyway
17:20:23pixelmaok, forgot about the RTC
17:20:35lyon8hmm, seem's like the sansa doesn't support it :/
17:20:52pixelmabut H300 could and the two mentioned Iaudios (M3 doesn't have an RTC either I believe)
17:21:31lyon8i also have got an iriver h320 - should try on this one.
17:21:46AlexPlyon8: See what pixelma has just been saying
17:22:22pixelmalyon8: do not try a new bootloader
17:22:26AlexPLooks like fewer targets than I thought have it
17:22:28funmangevaerts: something which would maek the player power on after some time ?
17:22:36gevaertsfunman: yes
17:22:38AlexPfunman: At a specific time
17:22:53AlexPLike an alarm clock
17:22:59lyon8exactely ;)
17:23:04AlexPQuite a few targets have it already
17:23:28lyon8AlexP: for example? the iaudios?
17:23:55funmanI don't know if it's possible, at least it's not implemented
17:23:55AlexPno, see that pixelma just said
17:24:07AlexPSome ipods do, gigabeat IIRC
17:24:24lyon8argl, ok
17:25:04lyon8thanks for your help anyway :)
17:25:13AlexPI would be amazed if it wasn't possible on the e200
17:25:19AlexPv1 or v2
17:25:26AlexPBut it hasn't been done yet
17:25:49lyon8AlexP: yeah, I don't think the original firmware could do it
17:26:05AlexPThat doesn't say much :)
17:26:52funmanAS3525 datasheet mentions a "power up from RTCSUP pin"
17:27:11pixelmaAlexP: I think I read it wasn't possible on the PP Sansas at least
17:27:27AlexPpixelma: Wow, that surprises me
17:27:38pixelmanot sure where :\
17:27:51gevaertslyon8: never ask a simple question here, you might get a complicated answer :)
17:28:02lyon8wouldn't make sense to include the hardware and not use the feature in the original firmware..
17:28:15AlexPThey do that for plenty of things
17:28:28lyon8gevaerts: ok, next time I'll fake knowledge ;)
17:28:32pixelmadear, that pcf50605 (H300, X5, M5) alarm patch is old :/
17:28:38AlexPLook at Rockbox features vs. OF
17:29:15pixelmaand unexpected tuners
17:29:53lyon8AlexP: I don't see too much difference to be honest - except the Ogg/flac support and the games
17:30:04lyon8ok, you got a point with the tuner :D
17:30:05AlexPWell there is
17:30:17AlexPAnd I'm not solely talking about the e200
17:31:00lyon8yeah, you're right...I just wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't possible on the e200
17:31:19lyon8on the h320 rockbox was like the firmware messias ;)
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17:32:48lyon8just out of interest: which players do you use rockbox with?
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17:33:42AlexPH100, gigabeat S, gigabeat F, e200v1, c200v1, clipv1, (and miezu m3 and logik dax not yet finished)
17:33:53funmanrockbox also supports SDHC on e200v1 while OF doesn't
17:34:12funmanAlexP: what's your experience with current builds of clipv1 ?
17:34:30lyon8oh, ok
17:34:44lyon8quite alot
17:35:18AlexPfunman: I haven't really used it for a while
17:36:06funmanok i'm just curious, i don't experience any crashes these days
17:36:55AlexPI tested it alot around the time saratoga was doing the test builds, and with the fixes that went in it never crashed
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17:40:59funmanFigure 44 mentions "RTCSUP pin and VBUS" which aren't in 7.4.1.2 (which lists UVDD which isn't in the figure)
17:42:09tmztcan rrtc wakeup be programmed or is it just the pin that's missing?
17:42:23funmanRTCSUP is input for ADC10 : "check RTC backup battery voltage (connected to BVDD inside the package)"
17:42:30AlexPtmzt: I think that is what funman is looking at :)
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17:42:52funmani'm not sure this is related to a rtc wakeup
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17:48:56funmanClip OF has an "Auto Power" feature but it's not documented
17:49:54funmanand i can't see any effect
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17:52:10funmanfuze OF doesn't have this option
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18:30:22funmanby the way, http://hardwarebug.org/ (blog from a ffmpeg developer) "regularly" posts comparisons of ARM compilers (including different versions of GCC)
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18:37:21kugelit seems 4.4.x is a bad release for arm
18:43:02Jaykay"When price is not a concern, ARM RCVT is a good option, outperforming GCC by up to a factor 2." nice.
18:43:44gevaertsJaykay: for rockbox I doubt the difference would be anywhere near that big
18:43:47funmanI tried to build rockbox with rcvt but the makefiles relied too much on gcc so i gave up
18:43:58funmangevaerts: why ?
18:44:24gevaertsbecause most critical bits aren't C anymore
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18:46:16funmani wonder how using thumb code would affect c200v2
18:46:47funmana big problem is you can't use thumb in files using inline ARM asm
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18:55:08kugelfunman: is there a way to insert mode switching to any inline asm?
18:55:56funmanyes but afaik you can't know if the current function is built with thumb or ARM, and you can't tell gcc to force some functions to be built in ARM
18:56:47funmanthe patch on flyspray use a predefined list of files to build with -mthumb -mthumb-interwork (files which don't use inline asm, and which aren't speed critical)
18:57:16kugelwell, the main binary doesn't have much asm, it might be worth to put the mode switching manually to inline asms
18:57:48funmanthe thing is, you don't know if gcc will produce thumb or arm for the function
18:58:04funmanif it produces thumb the assembler will just fail
18:58:19kugelwhy should it produce arm if we instruct it to build for thumb?
18:58:36funmanit won't produce thumb for every function
18:58:51kugelwhy thatß
18:58:54funmanhm maybe not
18:59:50funmanrockbox/apps]% grep -r "asm.*(" .|wc -l
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19:00:03funmanwell that includes codecs
19:00:19kugelI think codecs have quite a bit inline asm
19:00:19funman230 matches, so only 59 for apps/ without codecs
19:00:34funmanso i'd expect a bit less for only arm asm
19:00:48kugelwhat's the count for apps/plugins/?
19:02:12funman47
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19:09:19saratoga_that blog again suggests that ffmpeg might be faster then libmad
19:11:51saratoga_also i've never heard of the codesourcery gcc branch, but apparently its faster for Cortex on a lot of the ffmpeg integer codecs
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19:13:32funmansome gnu gcc hackers are employed by codesourcery
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19:17:37saratoga_did my libmad comment go through before?
19:17:54kugelyes
19:18:01funmansaratoga_: libmad use COP in rockbox ?
19:18:12saratoga_funman: yes, on PP at least
19:18:44saratoga_a GSOC project looking at mp3 performance in detail would be interesting
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19:39:11funmani tried CFLAGS += -mthumb in apps.make but it doesn't work
19:39:49saratoga_i think thumb will be a lot slower for most things
19:40:16saratoga_though maybe rarely used code could be made smaller
19:40:17funmananyway it would be nice to be able to compare
19:40:50funmanah it works now
19:41:08saratoga_so that compiles all of apps in thumb mode?
19:41:18funmani guess
19:42:07saratoga_i guess all the asm blocks will break the codecs
19:42:26funmannot only
19:42:47funmanenable_interrupt() for instance
19:43:13saratoga_might work better to just do individual componenets like menus or database in thumb
19:45:25funmantagcache.o is 1.4 times smaller with -mthumb -mthumb-interwork
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19:55:05funmankugel: it seems -mthumb outputs only thumb code in fact
19:55:47funmanFS #6734 uses the old build systme
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20:04:43WillyI heard you can swap internal SD cards on the Sansa e200 series. Would that effect RB?
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20:05:12saratoga_you can't
20:05:30saratoga_unless you mean just swapping out the boards inside the device
20:05:55saratoga_if you do that, you basically get whatever was on the old board
20:06:17Willyno I mean just the SD card (internal). Then I would install RB onto the new card.
20:06:44saratoga_the internal memory isn't an SD card, its actually a daughter board
20:07:08Willybut if the new board comes from a v2, will RB see the player as a v2?
20:07:20saratoga_the V2 doesn't have a daughter board
20:07:25Willyah
20:08:01saratoga_so if you take a player with rockbox, take the board out, and put it in another sansa, the new sansa will be rockboxed
20:08:15saratoga_basically the entire internal memory and state of the player is on the board
20:08:17CIA-44New commit by 03alex (r24316): FS #10921 - Fix for serbian translation by Ivan Pesic.
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20:11:02WillyAnyone want to take a wild guess as to how long it would take to code this: When the player is fully charged, the Plasma.rock plugin starts playing. (asking because thinking of offering money for someone to do it).
20:11:49gevaertsin a clean way?
20:11:52saratoga_it could be done in a very ugly way probably pretty quickly, but to get it accepted in SVN would probably take longer
20:12:14ZagorWilly: is this some kind of battery "washing" idea?
20:12:34AlexPWould it get accepted into SVN? I don't see the point here I must admit
20:12:46Willydon't know what you mean by "washing". I just want to be alerted when charging is done.
20:12:58CIA-44New commit by 03alex (r24317): FS #10915 - Slovak Language update by Peter Lecky.
20:13:04saratoga_it seems silly but assuming it didn't have some massive overhead i think it would be harmless enough to have a plugin play while charging
20:13:23saratoga_can't you just look at the charging icon
20:13:29Zagorwell, using a very busy plugin to tell you the battery is (was) full is probably not the best of ideas
20:13:44Willylol
20:14:20saratoga_anyway it usually not worth waiting around for a battery to charge anyway, the last half hour they barely charge
20:14:27saratoga_just pull it out when you want it
20:14:39saratoga_rather then wait around while it gets the last couple percent of power
20:14:54Willyhmm
20:14:57Willyty
20:15:16funmanZagor: how can we add a gcc flag to a list of specific .c files ?
20:16:27Zagorfunman: by creating a new rule for those files. doom does it, for instance.
20:16:29saratoga_you'll probably have separate them into a new make rule
20:16:52saratoga_but doom has its own makefile too so its easy for doom
20:17:12Zagorwhich files are we talking about?
20:17:22saratoga_much of apps/* i think
20:17:26funmanany .c file which doesn't use inline assembly and could be built with -mthumb
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20:18:25Zagorow. that means you manually have to create a long list of files in the makefile. we try to avoid that.
20:19:02Zagorthough I suppose you could use a grep to create it automatically too
20:19:17Zagorhow much gain does mthumb give?
20:19:32funmandunno i would like to measure
20:19:39funmanspeed and code size
20:20:00saratoga_thumb tends to be a lot smaller and a lot slower
20:20:04funmangrep would need to be run on the cpp output, apps/dsp.c use FRACMUL for example
20:20:12Zagorfor testing, build once without the flag. then remove the .o files you want compiled with mthumb, add the flag and run make again
20:20:17saratoga_but for things that rarely run it makes a lot of sense
20:20:39funmanZagor: good idea
20:20:49saratoga_which target are you testing on?
20:20:59funmanfuze, but i didn't run it yet
20:21:27saratoga_i wonder if using lots of thumb would get the audio buffer big enough to work on the c200v2
20:22:45funmanyeah that was my idea: it's ~350kB smaller than on the clipv1
20:23:24saratoga_isn't it only 400KB on the clipv1?
20:23:35funmanyes
20:23:41Zagoror should we revive the idea to play directly from flash?
20:23:59funmanone needs to read buffering.c like matsch was/is doing
20:24:46saratoga_has anyone tried his latest patch on the c200v2?
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20:28:44CIA-44New commit by 03Buschel (r24318): Commit FS #10082, enlarge volume control range for WM8758. This will enable volume control down to -90 dB for iPod Video targets.
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20:51:16gevaertshm, I'm not sure if r24318 should have been committed during the freeze
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20:52:38saratoga_probably not, but its safe enough and maybe sort of a bug fix
20:53:14gevaertsit's probably safe enough not to revert, yes
20:53:30n1syeah, i though the same, it seems pretty safe and fixes an annoyance for some people
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20:55:29CIA-44New commit by 03Buschel (r24319): Recalculated typical current consumption for iPod Video.
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21:03:07Buschelsorry guys... I should have asked before submitting...
21:04:29gevaertswell, it's committed now. I guess it's not too risky
21:05:20Bagder_http://www.ecoln.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=88 <= a little Rockbox review on Cowon D2+
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21:13:45n1she seems happy :)
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21:19:25mc2739Bagder_: did you receive an email from me with bootloaders for the download server?
21:19:46Bagder_I did, and I'll do the work too soonish
21:20:03mc2739Thanks
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22:18:57linuxstbmc2739: Did you see funman's messages to you regarding testing new OFs with mkamsboot before committing and also testing new bootloaders before making them available for download? (11:53 in yesterday's logs)
22:21:32mc2739linuxstb: yes I did - the bootloaders were tested
22:24:06linuxstbmc2739: OK. What about your mkamsboot commit? Was that tested on target?
22:25:46mc2739There was a report from topik that mkamsboot was OK.
22:25:51mc2739(http://www.rockbox.org/irc/log-20100122#09:01:11)
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22:28:29linuxstbmc2739: OK, so it was tested after the commit? ;) Which bootloaders have you sent to Bagder?
22:29:12mc2739yeah, I won't make that mistake again.
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22:29:29mc2739I sent bootloaders for e200v2 and fuze
22:29:34JaykayAlexP: this is just a reminder for FS #9794 :D
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22:31:24linuxstbmc2739: Have you tagged them in SVN? I can only see tags for v1 bootloaders.
22:31:30AlexPJaykay: hehe :) I'll probably get to it tomorrow now :)
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22:33:04JaykayAlexP: ok :)
22:34:59mc2739linuxstb: I did not. Was there already v1 bootloaders?
22:35:14AlexPv1 RC before I thought?
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22:35:27linuxstbmc2739: There are already some bootloaders on the download server, I assume they were v1
22:35:42linuxstbAnd there's a "bootloader_ams_v1" tag in SVN
22:35:52mc2739no, they are Ver. 1.0RC
22:36:18AlexPthe tag is 1.0 though, so that is an incorrect tag?
22:36:24linuxstbWhat are, the binaries, or the tag?
22:36:35mc2739the binaries are 1.0RC
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22:39:28linuxstbPutting "RC" bootloaders on the download server seems a contradiction...
22:39:28saratogaprobably just us being lazy
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22:39:30linuxstbSo it sounds like new bootloaders should be v2?
22:40:40mblindseyquick question about recording Line-in on the iPod Vid 30GB. I can't find the answer in on the site. Does Rockbox support 24-bit audio recording?
22:40:45saratogawhat has actually changed in them?
22:41:15saratogaI don't even think the hardware can manage 16 bits resolution, so I wouldn't worry too much about it
22:41:17linuxstbmblindsey: No. The hardware should (afaik), but Rockbox will only record in 16-bit.
22:41:50mblindseythanks! 16bit/44.1 is no problem, though...right?
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22:42:20linuxstbmblindsey: Right. And maybe higher samplerates (I'm not sure though).
22:42:43mblindseycool...thanks! i'm off to install and build that line-in connector....
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22:43:06saratogai wasn't aware anything had been changed in the AMS bootloaders, why is a new one being released?
22:43:15AlexPmblindsey: Surely in the reverse order :)
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22:43:29mblindseyheh..."install rockbox"
22:43:37AlexPaha :)
22:44:05mblindseyhave a great day and thanks for the quick answers!
22:44:36linuxstbsaratoga: I've no idea...
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22:45:14saratogai was thinking of changing the message you get when you forget to copy over the .rockbox folder to actually make sense
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22:46:03saratogahttp://pastebin.com/m397dd944
22:46:08saratogamight be a good idea anyway
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22:48:43linuxstbsaratoga: Does that fit on all screens?
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22:49:07saratogaits from the Ipod bootloaders, and they have smaller screens so I assume
22:49:17AlexPclip?
22:49:30saratogaah maybe not on the clip
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22:57:27linuxstbmc2739: Still here? What's changed in your bootloaders, and what version number did you give them?
22:58:41mc2739linuxstb: I'm not sure if there are any changes other that the version (1.0)
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22:58:57saratogais there any reason to update them then?
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22:59:34mc2739I guess not
22:59:50linuxstbmc2739: But if they are not from the same code as 1.0RC, shouldn't they be v2 ?
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23:02:15mc2739linuxstb: that sounds logical
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23:37:43mc2739Bagder_: please do not upload the bootloaders. I think the consensus is that we do not need new bootloaders at this time
23:37:59Bagder_ok, no work is good work! ;-)
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