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#rockbox log for 2010-02-18

00:00:24FlynDicefunman: dmesg output −−−−> [sdf] 3801088 512-byte logical blocks: (1.94 GB/1.81 GiB)
00:01:11funmanhum i'm a bit off then
00:01:40gevaertsBiont: with that fix your theme passes. I guess that now it's just a question of waiting for someone who can put the new version on the theme site
00:02:02saratogastripwax: i get IRAM full errors on WMA if i put the revtav in IRAM
00:02:10saratogai can test ac3 now
00:02:51Biontgevaerts: So that will only fix the checkwps I could do myself?
00:03:36gevaertsBiont: I'm not exactly sure how the themesite checkwps upgrades work, but I suspect that it's not automatic
00:03:41stripwaxsaratoga - (shame). which size revtab was that though?
00:03:48saratogareduced one
00:04:01saratogaapparently we are completely full on wma
00:04:04Biontgevaerts: alright. I guess the world can wait for my theme a bit longer
00:04:11saratogawhich i didn't think was the case, will have to look into this
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00:05:47Biontgevaerts: Thanks for the fix, I hope I can upload soon
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00:08:03funmanFlynDice: fixed my code, it corresponds
00:08:27CIA-8New commit by 03gevaerts (r24735): Make checkwps compile again for the player. If we had proper multifont on charcell this would never have happened
00:08:53saratogastripwax: phase looks the same as foobar
00:09:17stripwaxthe fft is the bit that looks wrong :)
00:09:58CIA-8New commit by 03funman (r24736): as3525v2: make clear the SD code is debug only and display a message ...
00:10:02saratogamaybe foobar is wrong?
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00:10:20saratogaor the codec was already wrong
00:10:30stripwaxhah, maybe. but I'll trust foobar and try and see where the mdct might be wrong.
00:10:41stripwaxwould be worth comparing a previous version of rockbox −− right ...
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00:12:15stripwaxgah. I think I misread the code. so the fft is the bit that looks *right*. heh.
00:14:50stripwaxright, and the mdct trig was the trickier of the two anyway so easier to imagine a sign flip crept in there. saratoga - thanks, I think I know where to dig!
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00:27:33CIA-8New commit by 03funman (r24737): as3525v2: use CGU_BASE instead of hardcoded address for unknown register
00:27:38CIA-8New commit by 03funman (r24738): as3525: make clear the CCU bit we can't reset is the IDE interface
00:29:42JdGordon_what issue was I being poked about?
00:29:53JdGordon_did gevaerts's commit 30min ago fix it?
00:30:37gevaertsJdGordon_: I think so. At least it now accepts this sbs
00:31:01gevaertsskin_font_init() wasn't called in the checkwps case
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00:45:08stripwaxsaratoga - hm, I kinda sorta think ffmpeg might be wrong
00:45:21stripwaxor oggdec? (shrug)
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00:48:40maffeI can't find which players support USB HID mode - I have an X5L and don't see a HID device in Windows' device manager
00:49:14maffe(using r24716)
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00:57:57perfectdrugthe sansa clip+ display isn't blue and yellow anyomore, is it?
00:59:40perfectdrugis it colour?
01:00:48perfectdrugah I see it still is (sorry)
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01:09:51Biontis there any way for me to know when the theme site will accept multifont themes? Or should I just keep trying the next days?
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01:14:16CIA-8New commit by 03stripwax (r24739): I don't yet fully understand why this is required, but without it the output is signed-inverted (compared to e.g. the output of oggdec). ac3 ...
01:15:29*stripwax shrugs
01:15:52perfectdrugfunman: (for the logs) this is what I've got so far, power and volume buttons are missing, and the button labels, I have to sleep now;)
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01:48:03Unhelpfulunused functions in libfirmware should be discarded on link, right? the clz in support-arm.S would make a good/smaller replacement for the log2 that's in use in codeclib, and the easiest place to add it would probably just be alongside __clzsi2... in fact the entire function body aside from the table could be made a macro, and we could probably even make the table a macro after a fashion (making the non-empty values in it use an expression
01:48:03Unhelpful passed as an argument)
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02:30:06sudomanplease check-out FS #11034
02:31:13sudomanit's a simple patch changing the default contrast setting for the 3G
02:31:52sudomanright now, the ipod boots up with a black screen. if there's no proper setting in config.cfg, it stays dark and is only barely readable from an angle
02:32:06sudomanhopefully that should fix it
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02:52:15CIA-8New commit by 03jdgordon (r24740): basic alignment support (%a|l|c|r|L|R) in the playlist viewer. no sublines so the whole line will either be left, right or centered.
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03:38:00CIA-8New commit by 03jdgordon (r24741): fix yellow
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05:21:17CIA-8New commit by 03saratoga (r24742): Commit FS #11034 by Andrew Engelbrecht. Fixes default contrast value on ipod 3G.
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05:41:06JdGordonI don't suppose anyone is awake and knows the id3 parser?
05:49:12moosa probably good bet... :)
05:52:02*moos just read about the bug JdGordon wants to ask about (ie the char limitation on id3 tag buffer)
05:52:17JdGordonthats the one
05:52:29JdGordonits not my bug so I'm not too woried anymore
05:52:48JdGordonits the usual "our mp3 parser doesnt handle big tags" bug
05:54:16*moos noticed that if noone reported it before, maybe because the limit is indeed sensible (ie big enough)
05:55:41moosjust missing the warning for the user, like this he know that he have to fix the tag in question
05:56:29JdGordonno, this is the same one that causes some tracks with embedded AA to crash also
05:56:53moosohoh :(
05:57:07*moos missed the point
05:57:08JdGordoninteresting. commenting out the val=id3->comment; line in the id3 viewer fixes it
05:57:25JdGordonwhich probably means its not so bad, its just that field isnt getting set to NULL on failure
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05:58:35moosJdGordon: you will find before the needed people will be awake ;)
05:58:53moos+yourself of course
05:59:07JdGordonarg :p
05:59:20JdGordonI've got my fingers in enough different areas of the codebase already
06:00:18moosis there an opened tsck for the bug you described about AA? If so please make them related tasks... and then close them once you will fix them ;)
06:00:44moosJdGordon: yup, noticed during those last years :)
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06:02:44moosIf you are searching for something to do, please fix some sbs at boot bugs, like the longer bootime (initialisation sequence?) and no more localisation strings possible at boot ;)
06:02:45JdGordonholy cow this is scary code :p
06:03:11JdGordonbenchmark the boottimes. I still don't belieive its any slower :)
06:03:21JdGordonwhats the loc issue?
06:03:55moosI already did it naively, and constated few extras seconds!
06:04:29moosbtw anyone that have a notion of time+a long rockbox user, could have noticed it easily
06:04:48*moos push amiconn out of his bed to say you the same :)
06:06:04moosfor the localisation splash bug, you could easily catch it
06:07:37JdGordonwhat bug are you talking about?
06:11:33moos answer from amiconn is here
06:12:30moosbecause I noticed testing dircache for pamaury, that the dircache generation splash was in english
06:12:57JdGordonthat doesnt look like a url to the tracker....
06:12:57moosand thought first that that was my mess with the translation...
06:13:27mooshehe :) I thought that there was a task somwhere
06:14:41*moos will have to go to work in few minutes, canot right now search+open a task if does'nt exist
06:15:54*JdGordon doesnt fix bugs not in the tracker :)
06:16:53mooshaha :) you are sort of an machin? :)
06:21:44JdGordonmy name is bender, please insert girder
06:23:15JdGordonok, so I can band-aid the bug pretty easily
06:24:16mooshehe :) Yes you can
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06:25:12JdGordonthe bug isnt in the parser :p
06:29:13JdGordonfound the real bug
06:30:08JdGordonor maybe not
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06:32:24JdGordonnope, I'm lost again
06:33:52*moos shares some of his coffee with JdGordon :)
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06:43:53CIA-8New commit by 03jdgordon (r24743): bandaid fix for FS #11033 where a really long comment crashes. Real fix is figuring out why the scroll engine doesnt handle this properly (I give up ...
06:49:22JdGordonumm... hmm.. what does printf do with a NULL string if passed in for %s?
06:50:46CIA-8New commit by 03jdgordon (r24744): NULL check so it doesnt display (null) on the comment line
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06:57:45pixelmasomehow I think I read that there are two types of LCDs in 3rd gen Ipods which would mean that saratoga's commit just makes it work for the other half but I am not sure...
06:58:23pixelmatwo types which need different contrast values I mean
07:00:14JdGordonbloody apple! :p
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07:48:32JdGordonpixelma: which settings dont work with %St?
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07:58:43pixelmaJdGordon: my problem was with %?St not plain %St - and it was bass and treble (possibly others that can have negative values if I remember correctly about the comment)
08:04:19CIA-8New commit by 03jdgordon (r24745): allow integer sound settings (bass, volume, etc) to be used with conditional %St. "%?St|name|<min|min+1|...|max-1|max>"
08:04:27JdGordonnot very pretty but that fixes it
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10:19:32knittlhi. thanks for porting rockbox to e200v2 sansas :)
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11:17:13b0hoon2I would like to propose to add the packard bell vibe 500 to the automatic build system and move it to the unstable section on the main page. (?)
11:20:21Zagorb0hoon2: agreed
11:20:33gevaertsI'll add it to the builds
11:20:46Bagderwoohoo, nice work b0hoon2!
11:21:11Zagorhmm, it wasn't even mentioned in the unusable section.
11:22:26CIA-8New commit by 03gevaerts (r24746): Add packard bell vibe 500 to the build table
11:23:59CIA-8New commit by 03zagor (r24747): Added Packard Bell Vibe 500 to unstable section.
11:24:48Zagoroops, that commit got a bit bigger than I intended...
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11:29:16b0hoon2Thanks, thats really great! Yeah i'm very happy :D
11:30:01CIA-8New commit by 03zagor (r24748): Added Packard Bell Vibe 500 to build list.
11:32:14b0hoon2is it possible to add it to the the svn image is on the flyspray FS #10947 (by a perfect hand of perfectdrug).
11:32:56Zagorsure, I'll add it
11:34:02CIA-8New commit by 03zagor (r24749): Added Packard Bell Vibe 500 target picture
11:34:57Zagorah, mismatch between mine and gevaerts' commit
11:35:13ZagorI renamed the config parameter from pb_vibe500 to vibe500
11:35:13Bagdercaught red handed as they say
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11:36:22gevaertsZagor: will you fix it, or shall I?
11:36:26Zagoryou do it
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11:37:24CIA-8New commit by 03gevaerts (r24750): Change the build name to match the changes in r24748
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11:42:53b0hoon2Ups, something is wrong and the target don't want to build: "make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop.". Should i fix something?
11:43:24gevaertsb0hoon2: no. It should be fixed in the next build (see r24750)
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11:44:53b0hoon2Ok, thanks :)
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11:53:00Bagderthe table title pic seems to be missing
11:54:38Zagoryeah, I'm fighting that just now. I have no idea where it finds the old pb_vibe name...
11:55:36b0hoon2strange... it was for the first time.
11:57:52Zagormeh, it's in the database
12:03:34CIA-8New commit by 03zagor (r24751): Corrected Sansa and Packard Bell target names
12:06:47b0hoon2allright, next step... manual... bleh i must get through it somehow.
12:08:43b0hoon2must go back to work, my manager will kill me... thanks a lot! bye.
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12:40:12*Bagder added committer #88
12:43:06*AlexP awaits the COMMITTERS mail to find out who :)
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12:46:20CIA-8New commit by 03uchida (r24752): Add myself to the commiters list
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12:52:08ucchanhi, I commit docs/COMMITERS now.
12:52:24Bagderhey ucchan, yes we noticed!
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12:55:07ucchanMy first commit.
12:55:42ucchanThough it worries about whether it went well...
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12:56:38Torneucchan: <- there you go. looks fine to me :)
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13:01:41ucchanSo my committing is good, I relieved.
13:02:29Bagderbut Zagor's vibe hacking doesn't get any bonus points just yet
13:02:45Bagderor is it gevaerts'? ;-)
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13:15:27ranmachanI've got the C240v2 JTAG pinout figured out now.
13:15:48ranmachanNow if only the girl with the nice JTAG adapter was there today...
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13:40:53Zagornow vibe500 is properly in the build table
13:47:26CIA-8New commit by 03gevaerts (r24753): re-run calibration of build scores
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16:10:34CIA-8New commit by 03teru (r24754): FS #10535: bmp viewer plugin. ...
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16:19:00DavidMatthewscan someone add me to "WikiUsersGroup"? Please?
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16:20:39gevaertsDavidMatthews: same name on the wiki?
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16:22:05gevaertsOK, done
16:22:13DavidMatthewsCool, Thanks!
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16:38:32CIA-8New commit by 03kugel (r24755): Fix FS #11004 - Buffering crashes when skipping back from end of song.
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16:41:13kugelhm the buffering thread debug screen seems broken
16:41:13ericandorHi All, I would like to attach some external I2C chip to E260 European version. I thought that it should be easy as there is a I2C HW for FM tuner, but E260 European version does not have FM tuner. Can someone please tell me is I2C HW (pull=up resistors) present on European PCB?
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16:52:06TheSeveni would expect that there is more than just the radio on that bus
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16:52:18TheSeventhings like the power manager etc. are usually on I2C
16:54:05bob77I'm back to say thank you for the kind help on the big-disk support, it's working flawlessly =)
16:56:06ericandorThe e260 I am thinking about is v2 version, in SansaAMSHardwareMappings in GPIO ports description I see "FM i2c SCL" and "FM i2c SDA" so it could mean that I2C is used for Tuner only...
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16:56:57gevaertsericandor: if the FM chip is really missing, I'd assume that it's only the actual chip that's not there, not the PCB traces
16:58:58ericandorYes, that's true, but if FM chip is missing and if it is the only chip on I2C then some other HW could be missing, like eg. pull-up resistors.
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17:13:19pamauryCan I get write access to the wiki ?
17:16:35TheSevenwiki name?
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17:22:38hipy`Hi guys, im searching for some dudes wich would like to restart the linuxoniphone/ipod project, with CPICK
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17:52:28freddybgevaerts: would you take another look at FS #11019? I changed it so that it's just an extra option to specify the background image.
17:53:30hipy`Hi guys, im searching for some dudes wich would like to restart the linuxoniphone/ipod project, with CPICK
17:54:34evilnick_Bhipy`: Try #rockbox-community for that, as it's offtopic for this channel
17:59:34ericandorOne more thing about I2C, I looked for e260v2 30pin connector pin-out to see if I2C is accessible through it, but could not find such info, Does anyone knows is I2C accessible through e260v2 bottom connector ?
18:02:48saratogaI doubt it
18:03:14saratogaalthough its possible its hidden away there and no one ever noticed
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18:10:19AlexPJdGordon: Latest patch looks A-OK
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18:11:55AlexPscrolling/backdrop etc
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18:14:55kugelstrange yellow
18:15:33kugelsizeof(size_t) == sizeof(long) isn't it?
18:15:51Tornenot on every architecture ever, anyway
18:16:08Tornesizeof(size_t) == sizeof(void*)
18:16:23gevaertsTorne: is that guaranteed?
18:16:27Tornei think so.
18:16:32Torneit might be >=
18:16:42*gevaerts would say that size_t exists because of all this uncertainty :)
18:16:46Tornesize_t needs to be able to represent the result of the difference between two pointers
18:16:49Torneso it must at leas tbe as big as a pointer
18:17:07gevaertsah, right
18:17:10Tornebut anyway, size_t and long are unrelated, for sure
18:17:16kugelah, signdness is the problem I think
18:17:29Torneyah, size_t is unsigned
18:18:18kugelTorne: what's ptrdiff_t for then?
18:18:39Tornesize_t is not really *for* that
18:18:46Torneit jus thappens that the definitions are, er, similar.
18:19:01Torneyou are supposed to use ptrdiff_t for the difference between pointers, yes
18:19:10Tornei forget the exact definitions. :)
18:19:12CIA-8New commit by 03kugel (r24756): Fix yellow caused by signedness.
18:19:42kugelintptr_t works as well for pointer diffs
18:19:48kugelit's all confusing to me :)
18:20:09Torneok the real definition is that size_t is the type of sizeof()
18:20:11kugelI only wonder why my compiler didn't emit this warning
18:20:18Torne64-bitness, probably
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18:20:41Tornemixing signed/unsigned behaves differently depending how wide your ALU is (no really)
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18:21:49ericandorsaratoga: Are all unused pins of e260v2 bottom connector connected to GND?
18:22:04Tornekugel: it's safe to just assume "compilers are weird"
18:22:28kugelI just thought gcc is equally weird on all systems it runs on :p
18:23:50Tornewell sorry to disappoint you :)
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18:43:57CIA-8New commit by 03kugel (r24757): Hopefully fix yellow now, I don't understand why %ld works for ssize_t but %lu not for size_t (and still no warnings on my system).
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19:13:53gevaertsAny arm experts around to look at my starfield pebble at gevaerts/pebble/"> ?
19:14:23gevaertsIt crashes in star_draw(), on the draw = star->x / star->z + LCD_CENTER_X; line
19:15:08gevaertsI suspect something fishy with the division routine
19:20:28bertrikstar->z == 0?
19:21:39gevaertsI don't think so. I usually get an illegal instruction at a weird address (e8000088 IIRC)
19:22:40JdGordonAlexP: sweet! just gotta get hwcodec working and it can go in :)
19:23:40dionoeatesting for z != 0 before dividing still doesn't sound like a bad idea
19:24:26gevaertswell, the code is straight from the starfield plugin
19:24:46gevaertsalso, star_draw() is called straight after star_move(), which does check that
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19:28:07amiconngevaerts: Hmm, where's your plugin_start() function?
19:28:31dionoeait's a pebble!
19:28:45dionoea(so pebble_start)
19:28:58amiconnThat can't be
19:28:59gevaertsamiconn: the full code is at FS #11027
19:30:22gevaertsentry points are pebble_start() (which gets called on wps load), and pebble_paint() (which gets called on wps repaint)
19:30:49amiconnAh, so no ordinary plugin
19:31:25*amiconn thinks this isn't going to work
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19:36:56*amiconn wonders why this new concept reintroduces passing rb
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19:55:25gevaertsamiconn: it passes rb because I haven't fixed that bit yet. It's not meant to do that forever, but since these things can be loaded at arbitrary addresses the standard rb method needs changes, and I don't want to do too many of those at the same time
19:55:58gevaertsand yes, there's a chance that it won't work. I think it's still worth trying though
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20:00:22amiconnFrom your code it looks like ARM PIC is not quite position independent
20:00:43amiconnDid you check how PIC behaves on the other 3 architectures?
20:01:36gevaertsno. I know it links, and mcuelenaere tested the first patch on mips, but that's it right now
20:01:58gevaertshm, I haven't checked if my recent patches still link actually
20:02:26AlexPJdGordon: fms screen all working - :)
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20:05:24bluebrotheranyone with OS X 10.4 or 10.5 around? I'd welcome reports on a new rbutil release binary which hopefully fixes the libusb issues:
20:10:43sudomani have 10.5.8 ppc
20:14:02sudomanthe original 1.2.5 wasn't working for me, but this one does ; )
20:14:24sudomanthe only thing, is that like 1.2.4, the voice files won't download.
20:14:31sudomanbut i don't need them right now anyways
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20:15:21amiconngevaerts:Are you testing on PP?
20:15:30gevaertse200 to be precise
20:15:43pixelmabluebrother: if you would have asked an hour ago... maybe I can try sometime tomorrow (work PC is runnin MacOS 10.4)
20:15:53amiconnHow are those pebbles loaded exactly? Are they cacheline aligned?
20:16:03*amiconn somehow suspects dualcore issues
20:17:00sudomanbtw, the issue with the voice files is a 404 error.
20:17:33gevaertsthey're 4-byte aligned, cpucache_invalidate(); is called on the COP before loading, and on the main CPU after loading
20:17:50gevaertsUnless I did something wrong, that's the same as for normal plugins
20:17:52amiconnA cache line on PP is 16 byte
20:18:27amiconnAnd normal plugins are always cacheline aligned
20:18:54gevaertsthat's true
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20:20:31amiconnThe cpucache_invalidate() is correct, but won't help when cachelines overlap
20:20:40amiconnThe easiest method to rule this out is probably testing on single core
20:20:58amiconnI.e. either another target, or a single core build (that *should* still be possible)
20:21:10gevaertsgood idea
20:23:15amiconnIf this is actually the problem and you implement cache line alignment, don't forget that you also need to align the end, not just the start
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20:23:50JdGordon_AlexP: nice
20:24:19AlexPUnfortunately the "digital clock" font isn't one I can distribute
20:28:36JdGordon_there is bound to be a free one somewhere
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20:29:35AlexPYeah, I'll have a search
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20:37:03bertrikwith the new fms, it wouldn't be too hard to add a received-signal-strength-indication icon, right?
20:37:39AlexPThat'd be nice
20:37:55bluebrotherpixelma: no hurries. I might be able to finish OSX TTS support soon, having reports on that (especially on 10.4 with non-english languages) would be great.
20:38:13JdGordon_bertrik: sure, we can add anything!
20:38:24JdGordon_buit thats not implemented yet is it?
20:38:24bertriksomething like the volume, but with an antenna icon and a couple of bars
20:38:52bertrikno, it still needs to be added to the tuner interface, but it shouldn't be hard
20:39:20pixelmadoes the tuner chip really provide this info?
20:39:21JdGordon_I'm still hoping someone volanteers to move all the non drawing code out of apps/recorder/radio.c
20:39:25bertrikthe si470x has the RSSI available, and I think the radio used in the sansa e200 and c200 too
20:39:33JdGordon_too much of that should be in the drivers layer
20:40:13pixelmabertrik: as bad as the tuner in the c200 is...
20:40:18JdGordon_pixelma: ok, looks like its finished on swcodec, so could you please let me know (in the tracker) any hwcodec issues sometime soon?
20:40:45bertrikJdGordon, oh I thought that radio.c contained mostly generic radio code that is not specific to the drivers
20:41:12pixelmabertrik: I mean reception wise - the TEA tuners in my Ondio (and M5) are way better
20:41:29amiconnThe TEA5767 should also provide reception strength info
20:41:37amiconnNot sure about the really old Samsung
20:43:05JdGordon_bertrik: radio.c is a mess of the gui code, the presets code, actually controlling the radio (calling tuner_get/set())
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20:43:51JdGordon_9573 is what I started ages ago
20:44:16bertrikI agree it would be nice to have the GUI code separate. I think it's ok to have three layers: the tuner driver, some generic radio code (finding nearest preset, etc) and radio gui code
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20:46:13gevaertsIs there a register on ARM that I can assume isn't touched by anything?
20:46:43gevaertsI'd like to see if -msingle-pic-base helps, but I need a free register then...
20:47:04JdGordon_bertrik: sure, but having them all in the one file sucks
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20:47:11CIA-8New commit by 03Domonoky (r24758): rbutil: fix voice downloads.
20:47:24*S_a_i_n_t just realises that %cu and %cw both do pretty much the same thing...and ponders the point of the second one.
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20:48:22JdGordon_wtf is cu and cw?
20:48:41pixelmasome RTC (date) info
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20:49:32S_a_i_n_tthey're both day of the week, cu is 1~7 starting monday, and cw is 0~6 starting sunday
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20:51:55JdGordon_for completeness
20:52:49gevaerts looks familiar...
20:54:12bluebrotherdomonoky: why are the TTS classes not doing the speaking itself? Wouldn't it be easier to have a talk() function similar to voice()?
20:54:42bluebrotherat least on mac this is a bit annoying as the API can do the talking itself. Converting it around multiple times makes that "Test TTS" button really slow
20:54:55domonokytrue, but i didnt know if i can manage that for all of them.
20:55:07S_a_i_n_thow is one more complete than the other (:P), they both display the say of the week but have a slightly different order...
20:55:29S_a_i_n_tthere should be slightly different, weird variations of alll the tags :D
20:55:47S_a_i_n_t*day rather
20:56:03domonokymaybe we should make talk() functions into the tts and a canTalk() function, so we can fallback to tts->wav. wav -> talk.
20:56:05bertrikthe lv240xx chip (e200/c200) can indeed provide RSSI, it looks like it's not available in the TEA576x
20:56:12bluebrothershouldn't it be possible to have an implementation in the base class that does the speaking by creating a temporary file first, then call the appropriate playback function?
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20:56:24domonokybluebrother: even better.
20:56:30bluebrotherso I could overwrite that in the mac implementation.
20:56:38bertrikas far as I can see, the TEA576x does have an internal ADC to get RSSI but it's not exposed on the i2c interface
20:57:06JdGordon_bertrik: i think there is a patch that adds it to tea576x
20:57:14bluebrotherthe problem on mac is that I have a conversion tts -> aiff -> wav. Makes it somewhat slower :)
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20:59:44domonokybluebrother: so if you could move the talking function into the tts classes, it would be great :-)
21:00:51bluebrotherwell, I'm planning to add OSX TTS support first ;-)
21:01:24bluebrotherthe default voice on mac is really great, especially compared with Microsoft Sam
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21:06:18bertrikthat radio strength patch doesn't look too bad
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21:09:48pixelmaJdGordon_: re. the radio screen patch - I'll try to test tomorrow evening
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21:14:55bertrikdomonoky, can you try an si470x patch on your e200v2?
21:15:36domonokyyes, but only if you can build it for me (my arm build tools are currently broken)
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21:15:58bertrikok, I'll give you a binary in 15 mins or so
21:16:52LearRegarding toolchains, anyone know if gcc 4.4 (−−eabi) causes test_codec problems?
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21:25:45bertrikdomonoky, can you try this file and see if the radio still works ?
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21:31:42domonokybertrik: doesnt work, it seems to crash when i enter the fm screen.
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21:32:12domonokyi get a empty fm screen, and no reaction anymore, i need to use looong power to shutdown.
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21:33:35bertrikdomonoky, that's a pity, I was hoping to make initialisation simpler, but apparently it failed
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22:09:32JdGordon_gevaerts: if you fix up the problems in pebbles is there any reason to not just outright replace the plugin loader with that instead of adding a new plugin type?
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22:09:59JdGordon_I mean, other than losing the name pebbles :p
22:10:04gevaertsJdGordon_: we'll see
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22:10:27gevaertsPIC code might be a bit slower and/or bigger
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22:11:34gevaertsThe pebbles can't be normal plugins (different entry points), so the header will be a bit different. I'd like to use the same loader though
22:11:55JdGordon_why cant they have the same entry point?
22:12:49gevaertsYou're the one who wanted two functions!
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22:13:36JdGordon_I wanted more than two. but you really only need one entry point and some callbacks
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22:14:30gevaertsI don't really see the advantage of trying to shoehorn the things in the exact same API
22:14:40gevaertsWe already do have two plugin types
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22:34:00JdGordon_tomers: hey, do you use the playlist viewer at all?
22:34:07JdGordon_I probably messed up the RTL handling
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22:35:43tomersJdGordon: hey, I'm not using it. do you want me to test something particular
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22:36:07*tomers checks rtl in playlist viewer
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22:38:42JdGordon_I added support for the alignemnt tags so just give a quick check that they work correctly if the enclosing viewport is %ax'ed
22:39:58tomersI thought about an idea for GSoC project: Automatic tests framework. It takes the binaries of all simulator builds and runs some tests upon them, injecting key presses and taking screenshots
22:40:42tomersJdGordon: so what shall I test? maybe you should send me a theme to test?
22:40:48JdGordon_rasher's done some work on that i believe
22:41:04JdGordon_I dont have one handy (still at work)
22:42:09tomersJdGordon: it will be a lot easier for me if you prepare me a file, or tell me what line to write in the wps skin file
22:42:55tomersthe frame work then diffs the screenshot with latest approved screen shot (regression test), ignoring pre-defined screen regions (clock, progress bar, etc)
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22:44:15JdGordon_then just fiddle with the %al and %ar
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22:45:41domonokytomers: the problem with such a test framework, is that its probably much work to keep it uptodate.
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22:47:22tomersdomonoky: true. but if there's a web site that controls it, e.g. mailing list for this system which sends error notification messages that contains the diffed images, with two links - approve, or mark as bug, then it will be easier to maintain
22:49:34*gevaerts isn't too optimisitic about that sort of idea
22:50:03tomersthat's just a idea, thoguh
22:50:18*domonoky thinks it will be hard to not get too much false positives, and if there are too much, people will ignore it.
22:51:14gevaertsrasher has tried to get automated screenshots working. I think he finally gave up
22:51:37*domonoky would find it better if we manage to finish out testpage, to collect reports about test coverage for rc builds.
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22:51:53JdGordon_besides, I tihnk if any testing framework happens it should be in the playback area and not screen drawing area
22:52:25Bagderyeah, I would think a test suite would be better to do unit-tests on parts of rockbox
22:53:02tomershmmm... so maybe audio regression tests? diff audio files?
22:53:19gevaertstomers: no, that's not the problem
22:53:29JdGordon_regression tests are a waste of time
22:53:50domonokyyeah, tests on parts would probably more usefull, automated testcodec runs with compare on a big folder of tests file for example.
22:54:20Bagderand I disagree that regression tests are a waste of time
22:54:39Bagderthey're _awesome_ when you do code rearranges or big rewrites
22:55:04gevaertsthat's also when it's the hardest to keep the test code working
22:55:33Bagderbut for example making sure that a decoded song gets a certain output,...
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22:56:40gevaertsI'm just thinking that historically that's not really where we've had issues
22:56:51gevaerts*cough*early usb*cough*
22:56:56domonokyand a table of differences in codec performance, like the size table would be nice :-)
22:57:27domonokybut the true problems are mostly not testable with a sim.
22:57:28Bagderbut it would help for example when trying to improve the buffer or codec parts of the code
22:57:52JdGordon_so someone needs to rip playback out and make it a seperate library so it can be tested without using the sim
22:58:17Bagderit'd just be a special kind of sim
22:58:20tomersdomonoky: table of codec sizes can be calculated after build, right?
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22:59:08domonokytomers: yes, the size should be available, but we want the performance. :-)
22:59:48*gevaerts has the solution: position-independent plugins
22:59:58domonokyie how many Mhz do you need to get realtime, but its probably not really doable without target, because of all those asm optimisations.
23:00:41gevaertsIf you have those, all you need is lua bindings for injecting key presses or menu choices, and you're in business
23:00:42saratogaregression tests for playback would be very nice
23:00:53saratogabut we'd need a way to run the playback engine outside of rockbox
23:01:43CIA-8New commit by 03tomers (r24759): Brickmania: Test returned value of file operations ...
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23:03:25tomersmaybe that's a silly idea - but if the build system would generate a graphical image of each target's memory layout, that would be cool
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23:08:30tomersso do we have something out of the discussion for a testing platform? is there any idea that we can progress with?
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23:10:46*bluebrother would like to see tests for Rockbox Utility
23:11:30bluebrotherif only there wasn't this target dependencies all the time :/
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23:21:15tomersThere's a Vim script that highlights WPS definitions. It is in the problem is that this script lags behind new WPS tokens added to the language. The author seems to update the script if you send him a patch (which I did), but I wonder if we should have it under SVN, in a directory under /tools which is dedicated to the development...
23:21:17tomers...environment. We can also put there some scripts people use on their daily work. What do you think?
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23:23:15JdGordon_yeah, probably
23:24:11gevaertsdoes the author want that?
23:25:16tomersI'll ask for his permission. but lets say he agrees...
23:25:45*gevaerts notices that the file doesn't seem to have a license
23:26:05tomersand lets say he agrees to have it GPL'ed
23:26:32gevaertsin that case, sure, by all means have it in svn
23:26:57tomerswhere? /tools/env ?
23:28:02gevaertstools/ is for things that are needed to build
23:28:16tomerswhere in /utils?
23:29:19tomersis there anything else, development-environment-wise that we should maintain? any idea?
23:29:50gevaertswell, definitely not an emacs script :)
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23:30:41Bagdertools/rockbox-style.el ...
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23:31:04pamauryNobody against closing patch "FS #9780 - logf(), logfdisplay(), logfdump() functions update. " ? It's obsolete as we changed the logf code a few months ago.
23:31:28gevaertsBagder: shouldn't that be in utils as well these days?
23:31:37Bagderit should probably, yes
23:31:51tomersROFL... should we move tools/rockbox-style.el to /util/editors/ ?
23:32:15gevaertspamaury: that sounds good
23:32:29tomersI'll do it now... anybody reject we call it /util/editors ?
23:34:16bluebroth3reditors? Do we have more than one?
23:34:35saratogapamaury: isn't that uchida's work?
23:34:50gevaertsbluebroth3r: well, there's the vim wps syntax thing, and the emacs coding style thing
23:35:09bluebroth3rhmm, ok. That's at least more than one ;-)
23:35:23pamaurysaratoga: yes it's a patch of uchida's
23:35:26*tomers sent request to the author of the vim syntax script
23:36:29tomersbluebroth3r: I'm moving it, ok?
23:37:23bluebroth3rtomers: sure.
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23:41:44saratogapamaury: hes got SVN access now, so I'd probably let him handle it
23:42:17CIA-8New commit by 03tomers (r24760): Have /utils/editors to contain syntax files for WPS and possibly others Rockbox ...
23:44:40pamaurysaratoga: yes I know he got svn access but perhaps he won't pay attention to a patch that is more than one year old and that never got any attention. I see no reason to keep a patch is completely obsolete :)
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23:46:22tomersJdGordon: did you open a new FS item following the scrolling bug you found on FS #11033?
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23:52:54pamauryJdGordon: do still plan to have 'FS #9506 - buffer_alloc the dircache stack ' committed one day ? It saves nearly nothing now because I reduced dircache stack to 0x600 bytes (1.5KiB)
23:58:58TheSevenpamaury: the same thing coudl be applied to the sector buffers?

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