#rockbox 2010-02-18

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#rockbox log for 2010-02-18

00:00:24	FlynDice	funman: dmesg output −−−−> [sdf] 3801088 512-byte logical blocks: (1.94 GB/1.81 GiB)
00:01:11	funman	hum i'm a bit off then
00:01:40	gevaerts	Biont: with that fix your theme passes. I guess that now it's just a question of waiting for someone who can put the new version on the theme site
00:02:02	saratoga	stripwax: i get IRAM full errors on WMA if i put the revtav in IRAM
00:02:10	saratoga	i can test ac3 now
00:02:51	Biont	gevaerts: So that will only fix the checkwps I could do myself?
00:03:36	gevaerts	Biont: I'm not exactly sure how the themesite checkwps upgrades work, but I suspect that it's not automatic
00:03:41	stripwax	saratoga - (shame). which size revtab was that though?
00:03:48	saratoga	reduced one
00:04:01	saratoga	apparently we are completely full on wma
00:04:04	Biont	gevaerts: alright. I guess the world can wait for my theme a bit longer
00:04:11	saratoga	which i didn't think was the case, will have to look into this
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00:05:47	Biont	gevaerts: Thanks for the fix, I hope I can upload soon
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00:08:03	funman	FlynDice: fixed my code, it corresponds
00:08:27	CIA-8	New commit by 03gevaerts (r24735): Make checkwps compile again for the player. If we had proper multifont on charcell this would never have happened
00:08:53	saratoga	stripwax: phase looks the same as foobar
00:09:10	stripwax	curious
00:09:17	stripwax	the fft is the bit that looks wrong :)
00:09:58	CIA-8	New commit by 03funman (r24736): as3525v2: make clear the SD code is debug only and display a message ...
00:10:02	saratoga	maybe foobar is wrong?
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00:10:20	saratoga	or the codec was already wrong
00:10:30	stripwax	hah, maybe. but I'll trust foobar and try and see where the mdct might be wrong.
00:10:41	stripwax	would be worth comparing a previous version of rockbox −− right ...
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00:12:15	stripwax	gah. I think I misread the code. so the fft is the bit that looks right. heh.
00:14:50	stripwax	right, and the mdct trig was the trickier of the two anyway so easier to imagine a sign flip crept in there. saratoga - thanks, I think I know where to dig!
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00:20:37	maffe	hi
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00:27:33	CIA-8	New commit by 03funman (r24737): as3525v2: use CGU_BASE instead of hardcoded address for unknown register
00:27:38	CIA-8	New commit by 03funman (r24738): as3525: make clear the CCU bit we can't reset is the IDE interface
00:29:42	JdGordon_	what issue was I being poked about?
00:29:53	JdGordon_	did gevaerts's commit 30min ago fix it?
00:30:37	gevaerts	JdGordon_: I think so. At least it now accepts this sbs
00:31:01	gevaerts	skin_font_init() wasn't called in the checkwps case
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00:45:08	stripwax	saratoga - hm, I kinda sorta think ffmpeg might be wrong
00:45:21	stripwax	or oggdec? (shrug)
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00:48:40	maffe	I can't find which players support USB HID mode - I have an X5L and don't see a HID device in Windows' device manager
00:49:14	maffe	(using r24716)
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00:57:57	perfectdrug	the sansa clip+ display isn't blue and yellow anyomore, is it?
00:59:40	perfectdrug	is it colour?
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01:00:48	perfectdrug	ah I see it still is (sorry)
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01:09:51	Biont	is there any way for me to know when the theme site will accept multifont themes? Or should I just keep trying the next days?
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01:14:16	CIA-8	New commit by 03stripwax (r24739): I don't yet fully understand why this is required, but without it the output is signed-inverted (compared to e.g. the output of oggdec). ac3 ...
01:15:29	*	stripwax shrugs
01:15:52	perfectdrug	funman: (for the logs) this is what I've got so far, power and volume buttons are missing, and the button labels, http://dl.dropbox.com/u/283924/clip%2B-front.svg I have to sleep now;)
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01:48:03	Unhelpful	unused functions in libfirmware should be discarded on link, right? the clz in support-arm.S would make a good/smaller replacement for the log2 that's in use in codeclib, and the easiest place to add it would probably just be alongside __clzsi2... in fact the entire function body aside from the table could be made a macro, and we could probably even make the table a macro after a fashion (making the non-empty values in it use an expression
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02:30:06	sudoman	please check-out FS #11034
02:31:13	sudoman	it's a simple patch changing the default contrast setting for the 3G
02:31:52	sudoman	right now, the ipod boots up with a black screen. if there's no proper setting in config.cfg, it stays dark and is only barely readable from an angle
02:32:06	sudoman	hopefully that should fix it
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02:52:15	CIA-8	New commit by 03jdgordon (r24740): basic alignment support (%a\|l\|c\|r\|L\|R) in the playlist viewer. no sublines so the whole line will either be left, right or centered.
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03:38:00	CIA-8	New commit by 03jdgordon (r24741): fix yellow
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05:21:17	CIA-8	New commit by 03saratoga (r24742): Commit FS #11034 by Andrew Engelbrecht. Fixes default contrast value on ipod 3G.
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05:41:06	JdGordon	I don't suppose anyone is awake and knows the id3 parser?
05:49:12	moos	a probably good bet... :)
05:49:35	JdGordon	:'(
05:52:02	*	moos just read about the bug JdGordon wants to ask about (ie the char limitation on id3 tag buffer)
05:52:17	JdGordon	thats the one
05:52:29	JdGordon	its not my bug so I'm not too woried anymore
05:52:48	JdGordon	its the usual "our mp3 parser doesnt handle big tags" bug
05:54:16	*	moos noticed that if noone reported it before, maybe because the limit is indeed sensible (ie big enough)
05:55:41	moos	just missing the warning for the user, like this he know that he have to fix the tag in question
05:56:29	JdGordon	no, this is the same one that causes some tracks with embedded AA to crash also
05:56:53	moos	ohoh :(
05:57:07	*	moos missed the point
05:57:08	JdGordon	interesting. commenting out the val=id3->comment; line in the id3 viewer fixes it
05:57:25	JdGordon	which probably means its not so bad, its just that field isnt getting set to NULL on failure
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05:58:35	moos	JdGordon: you will find before the needed people will be awake ;)
05:58:53	moos	+yourself of course
05:59:07	JdGordon	arg :p
05:59:20	JdGordon	I've got my fingers in enough different areas of the codebase already
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06:00:18	moos	is there an opened tsck for the bug you described about AA? If so please make them related tasks... and then close them once you will fix them ;)
06:00:44	moos	JdGordon: yup, noticed during those last years :)
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06:02:44	moos	If you are searching for something to do, please fix some sbs at boot bugs, like the longer bootime (initialisation sequence?) and no more localisation strings possible at boot ;)
06:02:45	JdGordon	holy cow this is scary code :p
06:03:11	JdGordon	benchmark the boottimes. I still don't belieive its any slower :)
06:03:21	JdGordon	whats the loc issue?
06:03:55	moos	I already did it naively, and constated few extras seconds!
06:04:29	moos	btw anyone that have a notion of time+a long rockbox user, could have noticed it easily
06:04:48	*	moos push amiconn out of his bed to say you the same :)
06:06:04	moos	for the localisation splash bug, you could easily catch it
06:07:37	JdGordon	what bug are you talking about?
06:11:33	moos	http://www.rockbox.org/irc/log-20100214#15:49:56 answer from amiconn is here
06:12:30	moos	because I noticed testing dircache for pamaury, that the dircache generation splash was in english
06:12:57	JdGordon	that doesnt look like a url to the tracker....
06:12:57	moos	and thought first that that was my mess with the translation...
06:13:27	moos	hehe :) I thought that there was a task somwhere
06:14:41	*	moos will have to go to work in few minutes, canot right now search+open a task if does'nt exist
06:15:54	*	JdGordon doesnt fix bugs not in the tracker :)
06:16:53	moos	haha :) you are sort of an machin? :)
06:21:44	JdGordon	my name is bender, please insert girder
06:23:15	JdGordon	ok, so I can band-aid the bug pretty easily
06:24:16	moos	hehe :) Yes you can
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06:25:12	JdGordon	the bug isnt in the parser :p
06:29:09	JdGordon	WOW!
06:29:13	JdGordon	found the real bug
06:30:08	JdGordon	or maybe not
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06:32:24	JdGordon	nope, I'm lost again
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06:43:53	CIA-8	New commit by 03jdgordon (r24743): bandaid fix for FS #11033 where a really long comment crashes. Real fix is figuring out why the scroll engine doesnt handle this properly (I give up ...
06:49:22	JdGordon	umm... hmm.. what does printf do with a NULL string if passed in for %s?
06:50:46	CIA-8	New commit by 03jdgordon (r24744): NULL check so it doesnt display (null) on the comment line
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06:57:45	pixelma	somehow I think I read that there are two types of LCDs in 3rd gen Ipods which would mean that saratoga's commit just makes it work for the other half but I am not sure...
06:58:23	pixelma	two types which need different contrast values I mean
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07:48:32	JdGordon	pixelma: which settings dont work with %St?
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07:58:43	pixelma	JdGordon: my problem was with %?St not plain %St - and it was bass and treble (possibly others that can have negative values if I remember correctly about the comment)
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08:04:19	CIA-8	New commit by 03jdgordon (r24745): allow integer sound settings (bass, volume, etc) to be used with conditional %St. "%?St\|name\|<min\|min+1\|...\|max-1\|max>"
08:04:27	JdGordon	not very pretty but that fixes it
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10:19:32	knittl	hi. thanks for porting rockbox to e200v2 sansas :)
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11:17:13	b0hoon2	I would like to propose to add the packard bell vibe 500 to the automatic build system and move it to the unstable section on the main page. (?)
11:20:21	Zagor	b0hoon2: agreed
11:20:33	gevaerts	I'll add it to the builds
11:20:46	Bagder	woohoo, nice work b0hoon2!
11:21:11	Zagor	hmm, it wasn't even mentioned in the unusable section.
11:22:26	CIA-8	New commit by 03gevaerts (r24746): Add packard bell vibe 500 to the build table
11:23:59	CIA-8	New commit by 03zagor (r24747): Added Packard Bell Vibe 500 to unstable section.
11:24:48	Zagor	oops, that commit got a bit bigger than I intended...
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11:29:16	b0hoon2	Thanks, thats really great! Yeah i'm very happy :D
11:30:01	CIA-8	New commit by 03zagor (r24748): Added Packard Bell Vibe 500 to build list.
11:32:14	b0hoon2	is it possible to add it to the build.rockbox.org? the svn image is on the flyspray FS #10947 (by a perfect hand of perfectdrug).
11:32:56	Zagor	sure, I'll add it
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11:34:48	Bagder	red
11:34:57	Zagor	ah, mismatch between mine and gevaerts' commit
11:35:13	Zagor	I renamed the config parameter from pb_vibe500 to vibe500
11:35:13	Bagder	caught red handed as they say
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11:36:22	gevaerts	Zagor: will you fix it, or shall I?
11:36:26	Zagor	you do it
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11:42:53	b0hoon2	Ups, something is wrong and the target don't want to build: "make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop.". Should i fix something?
11:43:24	gevaerts	b0hoon2: no. It should be fixed in the next build (see r24750)
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11:53:00	Bagder	the table title pic seems to be missing
11:54:38	Zagor	yeah, I'm fighting that just now. I have no idea where it finds the old pb_vibe name...
11:55:36	b0hoon2	strange... it was for the first time.
11:57:52	Zagor	meh, it's in the database
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12:06:47	b0hoon2	allright, next step... manual... bleh i must get through it somehow.
12:08:43	b0hoon2	must go back to work, my manager will kill me... thanks a lot! bye.
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12:43:06	*	AlexP awaits the COMMITTERS mail to find out who :)
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12:52:08	ucchan	hi, I commit docs/COMMITERS now.
12:52:24	Bagder	hey ucchan, yes we noticed!
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12:54:24	ucchan	Yes.
12:55:07	ucchan	My first commit.
12:55:42	ucchan	Though it worries about whether it went well...
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12:56:38	Torne	ucchan: http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi?view=rev&revision=24752 <- there you go. looks fine to me :)
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13:01:41	ucchan	So my committing is good, I relieved.
13:02:29	Bagder	but Zagor's vibe hacking doesn't get any bonus points just yet
13:02:45	Bagder	or is it gevaerts'? ;-)
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13:40:53	Zagor	now vibe500 is properly in the build table
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16:10:34	CIA-8	New commit by 03teru (r24754): FS #10535: bmp viewer plugin. ...
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16:20:39	gevaerts	DavidMatthews: same name on the wiki?
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16:21:20	DavidMatthews	Yea,
16:22:05	gevaerts	OK, done
16:22:13	DavidMatthews	Cool, Thanks!
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16:41:13	kugel	hm the buffering thread debug screen seems broken
16:41:13	ericandor	Hi All, I would like to attach some external I2C chip to E260 European version. I thought that it should be easy as there is a I2C HW for FM tuner, but E260 European version does not have FM tuner. Can someone please tell me is I2C HW (pull=up resistors) present on European PCB?
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16:52:06	TheSeven	i would expect that there is more than just the radio on that bus
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16:52:18	TheSeven	things like the power manager etc. are usually on I2C
16:54:05	bob77	I'm back to say thank you for the kind help on the big-disk support, it's working flawlessly =)
16:56:06	ericandor	The e260 I am thinking about is v2 version, in SansaAMSHardwareMappings in GPIO ports description I see "FM i2c SCL" and "FM i2c SDA" so it could mean that I2C is used for Tuner only...
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16:56:57	gevaerts	ericandor: if the FM chip is really missing, I'd assume that it's only the actual chip that's not there, not the PCB traces
16:58:58	ericandor	Yes, that's true, but if FM chip is missing and if it is the only chip on I2C then some other HW could be missing, like eg. pull-up resistors.
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17:13:19	pamaury	Can I get write access to the wiki ?
17:16:35	TheSeven	wiki name?
17:17:55	pamaury	AmauryPouly
17:18:20	TheSeven	Done
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17:19:11	pamaury	thanks
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17:22:38	hipy`	Hi guys, im searching for some dudes wich would like to restart the linuxoniphone/ipod project, with CPICK
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17:52:28	freddyb	gevaerts: would you take another look at FS #11019? I changed it so that it's just an extra option to specify the background image.
17:53:30	hipy`	Hi guys, im searching for some dudes wich would like to restart the linuxoniphone/ipod project, with CPICK
17:54:34	evilnick_B	hipy`: Try #rockbox-community for that, as it's offtopic for this channel
17:55:07	hipy`	ok:)
17:59:34	ericandor	One more thing about I2C, I looked for e260v2 30pin connector pin-out to see if I2C is accessible through it, but could not find such info, Does anyone knows is I2C accessible through e260v2 bottom connector ?
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18:02:48	saratoga	I doubt it
18:03:14	saratoga	although its possible its hidden away there and no one ever noticed
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18:10:19	AlexP	JdGordon: Latest patch looks A-OK
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18:14:55	kugel	strange yellow
18:15:33	kugel	sizeof(size_t) == sizeof(long) isn't it?
18:15:42	Torne	no
18:15:51	Torne	not on every architecture ever, anyway
18:16:08	Torne	sizeof(size_t) == sizeof(void*)
18:16:23	gevaerts	Torne: is that guaranteed?
18:16:27	Torne	i think so.
18:16:32	Torne	it might be >=
18:16:42	*	gevaerts would say that size_t exists because of all this uncertainty :)
18:16:46	Torne	size_t needs to be able to represent the result of the difference between two pointers
18:16:49	Torne	so it must at leas tbe as big as a pointer
18:17:07	gevaerts	ah, right
18:17:10	Torne	but anyway, size_t and long are unrelated, for sure
18:17:16	kugel	ah, signdness is the problem I think
18:17:29	Torne	yah, size_t is unsigned
18:18:18	kugel	Torne: what's ptrdiff_t for then?
18:18:25	Torne	"yes"
18:18:28	Torne	:)
18:18:39	Torne	size_t is not really for that
18:18:46	Torne	it jus thappens that the definitions are, er, similar.
18:19:01	Torne	you are supposed to use ptrdiff_t for the difference between pointers, yes
18:19:10	Torne	i forget the exact definitions. :)
18:19:12	CIA-8	New commit by 03kugel (r24756): Fix yellow caused by signedness.
18:19:42	kugel	intptr_t works as well for pointer diffs
18:19:48	kugel	it's all confusing to me :)
18:20:09	Torne	ok the real definition is that size_t is the type of sizeof()
18:20:11	kugel	I only wonder why my compiler didn't emit this warning
18:20:18	Torne	64-bitness, probably
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18:20:41	Torne	mixing signed/unsigned behaves differently depending how wide your ALU is (no really)
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18:21:49	ericandor	saratoga: Are all unused pins of e260v2 bottom connector connected to GND?
18:22:04	Torne	kugel: it's safe to just assume "compilers are weird"
18:22:06	Torne	:
18:22:28	kugel	I just thought gcc is equally weird on all systems it runs on :p
18:23:50	Torne	well sorry to disappoint you :)
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19:13:53	gevaerts	Any arm experts around to look at my starfield pebble at gevaerts/pebble/">http://www.evonet.be/~gevaerts/pebble/ ?
19:14:23	gevaerts	It crashes in star_draw(), on the draw = star->x / star->z + LCD_CENTER_X; line
19:15:08	gevaerts	I suspect something fishy with the division routine
19:20:28	bertrik	star->z == 0?
19:21:39	gevaerts	I don't think so. I usually get an illegal instruction at a weird address (e8000088 IIRC)
19:22:40	JdGordon	AlexP: sweet! just gotta get hwcodec working and it can go in :)
19:23:40	dionoea	testing for z != 0 before dividing still doesn't sound like a bad idea
19:24:26	gevaerts	well, the code is straight from the starfield plugin
19:24:46	gevaerts	also, star_draw() is called straight after star_move(), which does check that
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19:28:07	amiconn	gevaerts: Hmm, where's your plugin_start() function?
19:28:31	dionoea	it's a pebble!
19:28:45	dionoea	(so pebble_start)
19:28:58	amiconn	That can't be
19:28:59	gevaerts	amiconn: the full code is at FS #11027
19:30:22	gevaerts	entry points are pebble_start() (which gets called on wps load), and pebble_paint() (which gets called on wps repaint)
19:30:49	amiconn	Ah, so no ordinary plugin
19:31:25	*	amiconn thinks this isn't going to work
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19:55:25	gevaerts	amiconn: it passes rb because I haven't fixed that bit yet. It's not meant to do that forever, but since these things can be loaded at arbitrary addresses the standard rb method needs changes, and I don't want to do too many of those at the same time
19:55:58	gevaerts	and yes, there's a chance that it won't work. I think it's still worth trying though
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20:00:22	amiconn	From your code it looks like ARM PIC is not quite position independent
20:00:43	amiconn	Did you check how PIC behaves on the other 3 architectures?
20:01:36	gevaerts	no. I know it links, and mcuelenaere tested the first patch on mips, but that's it right now
20:01:58	gevaerts	hm, I haven't checked if my recent patches still link actually
20:02:26	AlexP	JdGordon: fms screen all working - http://imagebin.ca/view/sVVCXZv.html :)
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20:05:24	bluebrother	anyone with OS X 10.4 or 10.5 around? I'd welcome reports on a new rbutil release binary which hopefully fixes the libusb issues: http://www.alice-dsl.net/dominik.riebeling/rockbox/rbutil-releases/1.2.5/rbutilqt-v1.2.5-1.dmg
20:10:43	sudoman	i have 10.5.8 ppc
20:14:02	sudoman	the original 1.2.5 wasn't working for me, but this one does ; )
20:14:24	sudoman	the only thing, is that like 1.2.4, the voice files won't download.
20:14:31	sudoman	but i don't need them right now anyways
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20:15:21	amiconn	gevaerts:Are you testing on PP?
20:15:24	gevaerts	yes
20:15:30	gevaerts	e200 to be precise
20:15:43	pixelma	bluebrother: if you would have asked an hour ago... maybe I can try sometime tomorrow (work PC is runnin MacOS 10.4)
20:15:53	amiconn	How are those pebbles loaded exactly? Are they cacheline aligned?
20:16:03	*	amiconn somehow suspects dualcore issues
20:17:00	sudoman	btw, the issue with the voice files is a 404 error.
20:17:33	gevaerts	they're 4-byte aligned, cpucache_invalidate(); is called on the COP before loading, and on the main CPU after loading
20:17:50	gevaerts	Unless I did something wrong, that's the same as for normal plugins
20:17:52	amiconn	A cache line on PP is 16 byte
20:18:27	amiconn	And normal plugins are always cacheline aligned
20:18:54	gevaerts	that's true
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20:20:31	amiconn	The cpucache_invalidate() is correct, but won't help when cachelines overlap
20:20:40	amiconn	The easiest method to rule this out is probably testing on single core
20:20:58	amiconn	I.e. either another target, or a single core build (that should still be possible)
20:21:10	gevaerts	good idea
20:23:15	amiconn	If this is actually the problem and you implement cache line alignment, don't forget that you also need to align the end, not just the start
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20:23:50	JdGordon_	AlexP: nice
20:24:19	AlexP	Unfortunately the "digital clock" font isn't one I can distribute
20:28:36	JdGordon_	there is bound to be a free one somewhere
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20:29:35	AlexP	Yeah, I'll have a search
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20:37:03	bertrik	with the new fms, it wouldn't be too hard to add a received-signal-strength-indication icon, right?
20:37:39	AlexP	That'd be nice
20:37:55	bluebrother	pixelma: no hurries. I might be able to finish OSX TTS support soon, having reports on that (especially on 10.4 with non-english languages) would be great.
20:38:13	JdGordon_	bertrik: sure, we can add anything!
20:38:24	JdGordon_	buit thats not implemented yet is it?
20:38:24	bertrik	something like the volume, but with an antenna icon and a couple of bars
20:38:52	bertrik	no, it still needs to be added to the tuner interface, but it shouldn't be hard
20:39:20	pixelma	does the tuner chip really provide this info?
20:39:21	JdGordon_	I'm still hoping someone volanteers to move all the non drawing code out of apps/recorder/radio.c
20:39:25	bertrik	the si470x has the RSSI available, and I think the radio used in the sansa e200 and c200 too
20:39:33	JdGordon_	too much of that should be in the drivers layer
20:40:13	pixelma	bertrik: as bad as the tuner in the c200 is...
20:40:18	JdGordon_	pixelma: ok, looks like its finished on swcodec, so could you please let me know (in the tracker) any hwcodec issues sometime soon?
20:40:45	bertrik	JdGordon, oh I thought that radio.c contained mostly generic radio code that is not specific to the drivers
20:41:12	pixelma	bertrik: I mean reception wise - the TEA tuners in my Ondio (and M5) are way better
20:41:29	amiconn	The TEA5767 should also provide reception strength info
20:41:37	amiconn	Not sure about the really old Samsung
20:43:05	JdGordon_	bertrik: radio.c is a mess of the gui code, the presets code, actually controlling the radio (calling tuner_get/set())
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20:43:51	JdGordon_	9573 is what I started ages ago
20:44:16	bertrik	I agree it would be nice to have the GUI code separate. I think it's ok to have three layers: the tuner driver, some generic radio code (finding nearest preset, etc) and radio gui code
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20:46:13	gevaerts	Is there a register on ARM that I can assume isn't touched by anything?
20:46:43	gevaerts	I'd like to see if -msingle-pic-base helps, but I need a free register then...
20:47:04	JdGordon_	bertrik: sure, but having them all in the one file sucks
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20:47:24	*	S_a_i_n_t just realises that %cu and %cw both do pretty much the same thing...and ponders the point of the second one.
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20:48:22	JdGordon_	wtf is cu and cw?
20:48:41	pixelma	some RTC (date) info
20:48:52	JdGordon_	ah
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20:49:32	S_a_i_n_t	they're both day of the week, cu is 1~7 starting monday, and cw is 0~6 starting sunday
20:49:42	S_a_i_n_t	?
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20:51:55	JdGordon_	for completeness
20:52:49	gevaerts	http://www.mail-archive.com/uclinux-dev@uclinux.org/msg05579.html looks familiar...
20:54:12	bluebrother	domonoky: why are the TTS classes not doing the speaking itself? Wouldn't it be easier to have a talk() function similar to voice()?
20:54:42	bluebrother	at least on mac this is a bit annoying as the API can do the talking itself. Converting it around multiple times makes that "Test TTS" button really slow
20:54:55	domonoky	true, but i didnt know if i can manage that for all of them.
20:55:07	S_a_i_n_t	how is one more complete than the other (:P), they both display the say of the week but have a slightly different order...
20:55:29	S_a_i_n_t	there should be slightly different, weird variations of alll the tags :D
20:55:47	S_a_i_n_t	*day rather
20:56:03	domonoky	maybe we should make talk() functions into the tts and a canTalk() function, so we can fallback to tts->wav. wav -> talk.
20:56:05	bertrik	the lv240xx chip (e200/c200) can indeed provide RSSI, it looks like it's not available in the TEA576x
20:56:12	bluebrother	shouldn't it be possible to have an implementation in the base class that does the speaking by creating a temporary file first, then call the appropriate playback function?
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20:56:24	domonoky	bluebrother: even better.
20:56:30	bluebrother	so I could overwrite that in the mac implementation.
20:56:38	bertrik	as far as I can see, the TEA576x does have an internal ADC to get RSSI but it's not exposed on the i2c interface
20:57:06	JdGordon_	bertrik: i think there is a patch that adds it to tea576x
20:57:14	bluebrother	the problem on mac is that I have a conversion tts -> aiff -> wav. Makes it somewhat slower :)
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20:59:44	domonoky	bluebrother: so if you could move the talking function into the tts classes, it would be great :-)
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21:00:51	bluebrother	well, I'm planning to add OSX TTS support first ;-)
21:01:24	bluebrother	the default voice on mac is really great, especially compared with Microsoft Sam
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21:09:48	pixelma	JdGordon_: re. the radio screen patch - I'll try to test tomorrow evening
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21:12:41	JdGordon_	thanks
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21:14:55	bertrik	domonoky, can you try an si470x patch on your e200v2?
21:15:36	domonoky	yes, but only if you can build it for me (my arm build tools are currently broken)
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21:15:58	bertrik	ok, I'll give you a binary in 15 mins or so
21:16:52	Lear	Regarding toolchains, anyone know if gcc 4.4 (−−eabi) causes test_codec problems?
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21:25:45	bertrik	domonoky, can you try this file and see if the radio still works ? http://filebin.ca/syducx/rockbox.sansa
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21:31:42	domonoky	bertrik: doesnt work, it seems to crash when i enter the fm screen.
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22:09:32	JdGordon_	gevaerts: if you fix up the problems in pebbles is there any reason to not just outright replace the plugin loader with that instead of adding a new plugin type?
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22:09:59	JdGordon_	I mean, other than losing the name pebbles :p
22:10:04	gevaerts	JdGordon_: we'll see
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22:10:27	gevaerts	PIC code might be a bit slower and/or bigger
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22:11:34	gevaerts	The pebbles can't be normal plugins (different entry points), so the header will be a bit different. I'd like to use the same loader though
22:11:55	JdGordon_	why cant they have the same entry point?
22:12:49	gevaerts	You're the one who wanted two functions!
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22:13:36	JdGordon_	I wanted more than two. but you really only need one entry point and some callbacks
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22:14:30	gevaerts	I don't really see the advantage of trying to shoehorn the things in the exact same API
22:14:40	gevaerts	We already do have two plugin types
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22:34:00	JdGordon_	tomers: hey, do you use the playlist viewer at all?
22:34:07	JdGordon_	I probably messed up the RTL handling
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22:35:43	tomers	JdGordon: hey, I'm not using it. do you want me to test something particular
22:35:45	tomers	?
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22:38:42	JdGordon_	I added support for the alignemnt tags so just give a quick check that they work correctly if the enclosing viewport is %ax'ed
22:39:58	tomers	I thought about an idea for GSoC project: Automatic tests framework. It takes the binaries of all simulator builds and runs some tests upon them, injecting key presses and taking screenshots
22:40:42	tomers	JdGordon: so what shall I test? maybe you should send me a theme to test?
22:40:48	JdGordon_	rasher's done some work on that i believe
22:41:04	JdGordon_	I dont have one handy (still at work)
22:42:09	tomers	JdGordon: it will be a lot easier for me if you prepare me a file, or tell me what line to write in the wps skin file
22:42:55	tomers	the frame work then diffs the screenshot with latest approved screen shot (regression test), ignoring pre-defined screen regions (clock, progress bar, etc)
22:43:10	JdGordon_	%ax%V\|10\|10\|80\|20\|1\|-\|-\|
22:43:10	JdGordon_	%Vp\|1\|%ar%ia\|%al%fn\|
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22:44:15	JdGordon_	then just fiddle with the %al and %ar
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22:45:41	domonoky	tomers: the problem with such a test framework, is that its probably much work to keep it uptodate.
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22:47:22	tomers	domonoky: true. but if there's a web site that controls it, e.g. mailing list for this system which sends error notification messages that contains the diffed images, with two links - approve, or mark as bug, then it will be easier to maintain
22:49:34	*	gevaerts isn't too optimisitic about that sort of idea
22:50:03	tomers	that's just a idea, thoguh
22:50:13	tomers	s/thoguh/though
22:50:18	*	domonoky thinks it will be hard to not get too much false positives, and if there are too much, people will ignore it.
22:51:14	gevaerts	rasher has tried to get automated screenshots working. I think he finally gave up
22:51:14	JdGordon_	seconded
22:51:37	*	domonoky would find it better if we manage to finish out testpage, to collect reports about test coverage for rc builds.
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22:51:53	JdGordon_	besides, I tihnk if any testing framework happens it should be in the playback area and not screen drawing area
22:52:25	Bagder	yeah, I would think a test suite would be better to do unit-tests on parts of rockbox
22:53:02	tomers	hmmm... so maybe audio regression tests? diff audio files?
22:53:19	gevaerts	tomers: no, that's not the problem
22:53:29	JdGordon_	regression tests are a waste of time
22:53:50	domonoky	yeah, tests on parts would probably more usefull, automated testcodec runs with compare on a big folder of tests file for example.
22:54:20	Bagder	and I disagree that regression tests are a waste of time
22:54:39	Bagder	they're _awesome_ when you do code rearranges or big rewrites
22:55:04	gevaerts	that's also when it's the hardest to keep the test code working
22:55:10	Bagder	true
22:55:33	Bagder	but for example making sure that a decoded song gets a certain output,...
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22:56:40	gevaerts	I'm just thinking that historically that's not really where we've had issues
22:56:51	gevaerts	coughearly usbcough
22:56:55	Bagder	haha
22:56:56	domonoky	and a table of differences in codec performance, like the size table would be nice :-)
22:57:27	domonoky	but the true problems are mostly not testable with a sim.
22:57:28	Bagder	but it would help for example when trying to improve the buffer or codec parts of the code
22:57:52	JdGordon_	so someone needs to rip playback out and make it a seperate library so it can be tested without using the sim
22:58:17	Bagder	it'd just be a special kind of sim
22:58:20	tomers	domonoky: table of codec sizes can be calculated after build, right?
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22:59:08	domonoky	tomers: yes, the size should be available, but we want the performance. :-)
22:59:48	*	gevaerts has the solution: position-independent plugins
22:59:58	domonoky	ie how many Mhz do you need to get realtime, but its probably not really doable without target, because of all those asm optimisations.
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23:00:41	gevaerts	If you have those, all you need is lua bindings for injecting key presses or menu choices, and you're in business
23:00:42	saratoga	regression tests for playback would be very nice
23:00:53	saratoga	but we'd need a way to run the playback engine outside of rockbox
23:01:43	CIA-8	New commit by 03tomers (r24759): Brickmania: Test returned value of file operations ...
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23:03:25	tomers	maybe that's a silly idea - but if the build system would generate a graphical image of each target's memory layout, that would be cool
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23:08:30	tomers	so do we have something out of the discussion for a testing platform? is there any idea that we can progress with?
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23:10:46	*	bluebrother would like to see tests for Rockbox Utility
23:11:30	bluebrother	if only there wasn't this target dependencies all the time :/
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23:21:15	tomers	There's a Vim script that highlights WPS definitions. It is in http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=2550 the problem is that this script lags behind new WPS tokens added to the language. The author seems to update the script if you send him a patch (which I did), but I wonder if we should have it under SVN, in a directory under /tools which is dedicated to the development...
23:21:17	tomers	...environment. We can also put there some scripts people use on their daily work. What do you think?
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23:23:15	JdGordon_	yeah, probably
23:24:11	gevaerts	does the author want that?
23:25:16	tomers	I'll ask for his permission. but lets say he agrees...
23:25:45	*	gevaerts notices that the file doesn't seem to have a license
23:26:05	tomers	and lets say he agrees to have it GPL'ed
23:26:32	gevaerts	in that case, sure, by all means have it in svn
23:26:57	tomers	where? /tools/env ?
23:27:45	gevaerts	utils/
23:28:02	gevaerts	tools/ is for things that are needed to build
23:28:16	tomers	where in /utils?
23:28:39	gevaerts	editors?
23:29:19	tomers	is there anything else, development-environment-wise that we should maintain? any idea?
23:29:50	gevaerts	well, definitely not an emacs script :)
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23:30:41	Bagder	tools/rockbox-style.el ...
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23:31:04	pamaury	Nobody against closing patch "FS #9780 - logf(), logfdisplay(), logfdump() functions update. " ? It's obsolete as we changed the logf code a few months ago.
23:31:28	gevaerts	Bagder: shouldn't that be in utils as well these days?
23:31:37	Bagder	it should probably, yes
23:31:51	tomers	ROFL... should we move tools/rockbox-style.el to /util/editors/ ?
23:32:15	gevaerts	pamaury: that sounds good
23:32:29	tomers	I'll do it now... anybody reject we call it /util/editors ?
23:34:16	bluebroth3r	editors? Do we have more than one?
23:34:35	saratoga	pamaury: isn't that uchida's work?
23:34:50	gevaerts	bluebroth3r: well, there's the vim wps syntax thing, and the emacs coding style thing
23:35:09	bluebroth3r	hmm, ok. That's at least more than one ;-)
23:35:23	pamaury	saratoga: yes it's a patch of uchida's
23:35:26	*	tomers sent request to the author of the vim syntax script
23:36:29	tomers	bluebroth3r: I'm moving it, ok?
23:37:23	bluebroth3r	tomers: sure.
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23:41:44	saratoga	pamaury: hes got SVN access now, so I'd probably let him handle it
23:42:17	CIA-8	New commit by 03tomers (r24760): Have /utils/editors to contain syntax files for WPS and possibly others Rockbox ...
23:44:40	pamaury	saratoga: yes I know he got svn access but perhaps he won't pay attention to a patch that is more than one year old and that never got any attention. I see no reason to keep a patch is completely obsolete :)
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23:46:22	tomers	JdGordon: did you open a new FS item following the scrolling bug you found on FS #11033?
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23:52:54	pamaury	JdGordon: do still plan to have 'FS #9506 - buffer_alloc the dircache stack ' committed one day ? It saves nearly nothing now because I reduced dircache stack to 0x600 bytes (1.5KiB)
23:55:22	pamaury	JdGordon_:^^
23:58:58	TheSeven	pamaury: the same thing coudl be applied to the sector buffers?

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