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#rockbox log for 2010-02-18

00:00:24FlynDicefunman: dmesg output −−−−> [sdf] 3801088 512-byte logical blocks: (1.94 GB/1.81 GiB)
00:01:11funmanhum i'm a bit off then
00:01:40gevaertsBiont: with that fix your theme passes. I guess that now it's just a question of waiting for someone who can put the new version on the theme site
00:02:02saratogastripwax: i get IRAM full errors on WMA if i put the revtav in IRAM
00:02:10saratogai can test ac3 now
00:02:51Biontgevaerts: So that will only fix the checkwps I could do myself?
00:03:36gevaertsBiont: I'm not exactly sure how the themesite checkwps upgrades work, but I suspect that it's not automatic
00:03:41stripwaxsaratoga - (shame). which size revtab was that though?
00:03:48saratogareduced one
00:04:01saratogaapparently we are completely full on wma
00:04:04Biontgevaerts: alright. I guess the world can wait for my theme a bit longer
00:04:11saratogawhich i didn't think was the case, will have to look into this
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00:05:47Biontgevaerts: Thanks for the fix, I hope I can upload soon
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00:08:03funmanFlynDice: fixed my code, it corresponds
00:08:27CIA-8New commit by 03gevaerts (r24735): Make checkwps compile again for the player. If we had proper multifont on charcell this would never have happened
00:08:53saratogastripwax: phase looks the same as foobar
00:09:10stripwaxcurious
00:09:17stripwaxthe fft is the bit that looks wrong :)
00:09:58CIA-8New commit by 03funman (r24736): as3525v2: make clear the SD code is debug only and display a message ...
00:10:02saratogamaybe foobar is wrong?
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00:10:20saratogaor the codec was already wrong
00:10:30stripwaxhah, maybe. but I'll trust foobar and try and see where the mdct might be wrong.
00:10:41stripwaxwould be worth comparing a previous version of rockbox −− right ...
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00:12:15stripwaxgah. I think I misread the code. so the fft is the bit that looks *right*. heh.
00:14:50stripwaxright, and the mdct trig was the trickier of the two anyway so easier to imagine a sign flip crept in there. saratoga - thanks, I think I know where to dig!
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00:27:33CIA-8New commit by 03funman (r24737): as3525v2: use CGU_BASE instead of hardcoded address for unknown register
00:27:38CIA-8New commit by 03funman (r24738): as3525: make clear the CCU bit we can't reset is the IDE interface
00:29:42JdGordon_what issue was I being poked about?
00:29:53JdGordon_did gevaerts's commit 30min ago fix it?
00:30:37gevaertsJdGordon_: I think so. At least it now accepts this sbs
00:31:01gevaertsskin_font_init() wasn't called in the checkwps case
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00:45:08stripwaxsaratoga - hm, I kinda sorta think ffmpeg might be wrong
00:45:21stripwaxor oggdec? (shrug)
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00:48:40maffeI can't find which players support USB HID mode - I have an X5L and don't see a HID device in Windows' device manager
00:49:14maffe(using r24716)
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00:57:57perfectdrugthe sansa clip+ display isn't blue and yellow anyomore, is it?
00:59:40perfectdrugis it colour?
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01:00:48perfectdrugah I see it still is (sorry)
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01:09:51Biontis there any way for me to know when the theme site will accept multifont themes? Or should I just keep trying the next days?
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01:14:16CIA-8New commit by 03stripwax (r24739): I don't yet fully understand why this is required, but without it the output is signed-inverted (compared to e.g. the output of oggdec). ac3 ...
01:15:29*stripwax shrugs
01:15:52perfectdrugfunman: (for the logs) this is what I've got so far, power and volume buttons are missing, and the button labels, http://dl.dropbox.com/u/283924/clip%2B-front.svg I have to sleep now;)
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01:48:03Unhelpfulunused functions in libfirmware should be discarded on link, right? the clz in support-arm.S would make a good/smaller replacement for the log2 that's in use in codeclib, and the easiest place to add it would probably just be alongside __clzsi2... in fact the entire function body aside from the table could be made a macro, and we could probably even make the table a macro after a fashion (making the non-empty values in it use an expression
01:48:03Unhelpful passed as an argument)
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02:30:06sudomanplease check-out FS #11034
02:31:13sudomanit's a simple patch changing the default contrast setting for the 3G
02:31:52sudomanright now, the ipod boots up with a black screen. if there's no proper setting in config.cfg, it stays dark and is only barely readable from an angle
02:32:06sudomanhopefully that should fix it
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02:52:15CIA-8New commit by 03jdgordon (r24740): basic alignment support (%a|l|c|r|L|R) in the playlist viewer. no sublines so the whole line will either be left, right or centered.
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03:38:00CIA-8New commit by 03jdgordon (r24741): fix yellow
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05:21:17CIA-8New commit by 03saratoga (r24742): Commit FS #11034 by Andrew Engelbrecht. Fixes default contrast value on ipod 3G.
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05:41:06JdGordonI don't suppose anyone is awake and knows the id3 parser?
05:49:12moosa probably good bet... :)
05:49:35JdGordon:'(
05:52:02*moos just read about the bug JdGordon wants to ask about (ie the char limitation on id3 tag buffer)
05:52:17JdGordonthats the one
05:52:29JdGordonits not my bug so I'm not too woried anymore
05:52:48JdGordonits the usual "our mp3 parser doesnt handle big tags" bug
05:54:16*moos noticed that if noone reported it before, maybe because the limit is indeed sensible (ie big enough)
05:55:41moosjust missing the warning for the user, like this he know that he have to fix the tag in question
05:56:29JdGordonno, this is the same one that causes some tracks with embedded AA to crash also
05:56:53moosohoh :(
05:57:07*moos missed the point
05:57:08JdGordoninteresting. commenting out the val=id3->comment; line in the id3 viewer fixes it
05:57:25JdGordonwhich probably means its not so bad, its just that field isnt getting set to NULL on failure
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05:58:35moosJdGordon: you will find before the needed people will be awake ;)
05:58:53moos+yourself of course
05:59:07JdGordonarg :p
05:59:20JdGordonI've got my fingers in enough different areas of the codebase already
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06:00:18moosis there an opened tsck for the bug you described about AA? If so please make them related tasks... and then close them once you will fix them ;)
06:00:44moosJdGordon: yup, noticed during those last years :)
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06:02:44moosIf you are searching for something to do, please fix some sbs at boot bugs, like the longer bootime (initialisation sequence?) and no more localisation strings possible at boot ;)
06:02:45JdGordonholy cow this is scary code :p
06:03:11JdGordonbenchmark the boottimes. I still don't belieive its any slower :)
06:03:21JdGordonwhats the loc issue?
06:03:55moosI already did it naively, and constated few extras seconds!
06:04:29moosbtw anyone that have a notion of time+a long rockbox user, could have noticed it easily
06:04:48*moos push amiconn out of his bed to say you the same :)
06:06:04moosfor the localisation splash bug, you could easily catch it
06:07:37JdGordonwhat bug are you talking about?
06:11:33mooshttp://www.rockbox.org/irc/log-20100214#15:49:56 answer from amiconn is here
06:12:30moosbecause I noticed testing dircache for pamaury, that the dircache generation splash was in english
06:12:57JdGordonthat doesnt look like a url to the tracker....
06:12:57moosand thought first that that was my mess with the translation...
06:13:27mooshehe :) I thought that there was a task somwhere
06:14:41*moos will have to go to work in few minutes, canot right now search+open a task if does'nt exist
06:15:54*JdGordon doesnt fix bugs not in the tracker :)
06:16:53mooshaha :) you are sort of an machin? :)
06:21:44JdGordonmy name is bender, please insert girder
06:23:15JdGordonok, so I can band-aid the bug pretty easily
06:24:16mooshehe :) Yes you can
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06:25:12JdGordonthe bug isnt in the parser :p
06:29:09JdGordonWOW!
06:29:13JdGordonfound the real bug
06:30:08JdGordonor maybe not
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06:32:24JdGordonnope, I'm lost again
06:33:52*moos shares some of his coffee with JdGordon :)
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06:43:53CIA-8New commit by 03jdgordon (r24743): bandaid fix for FS #11033 where a really long comment crashes. Real fix is figuring out why the scroll engine doesnt handle this properly (I give up ...
06:49:22JdGordonumm... hmm.. what does printf do with a NULL string if passed in for %s?
06:50:46CIA-8New commit by 03jdgordon (r24744): NULL check so it doesnt display (null) on the comment line
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06:57:45pixelmasomehow I think I read that there are two types of LCDs in 3rd gen Ipods which would mean that saratoga's commit just makes it work for the other half but I am not sure...
06:58:23pixelmatwo types which need different contrast values I mean
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07:00:14JdGordonbloody apple! :p
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07:48:32JdGordonpixelma: which settings dont work with %St?
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07:58:43pixelmaJdGordon: my problem was with %?St not plain %St - and it was bass and treble (possibly others that can have negative values if I remember correctly about the comment)
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08:04:19CIA-8New commit by 03jdgordon (r24745): allow integer sound settings (bass, volume, etc) to be used with conditional %St. "%?St|name|<min|min+1|...|max-1|max>"
08:04:27JdGordonnot very pretty but that fixes it
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10:19:32knittlhi. thanks for porting rockbox to e200v2 sansas :)
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11:16:35b0hoon2Hello
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11:17:13b0hoon2I would like to propose to add the packard bell vibe 500 to the automatic build system and move it to the unstable section on the main page. (?)
11:20:21Zagorb0hoon2: agreed
11:20:33gevaertsI'll add it to the builds
11:20:46Bagderwoohoo, nice work b0hoon2!
11:21:11Zagorhmm, it wasn't even mentioned in the unusable section.
11:22:26CIA-8New commit by 03gevaerts (r24746): Add packard bell vibe 500 to the build table
11:23:59CIA-8New commit by 03zagor (r24747): Added Packard Bell Vibe 500 to unstable section.
11:24:48Zagoroops, that commit got a bit bigger than I intended...
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11:29:16b0hoon2Thanks, thats really great! Yeah i'm very happy :D
11:30:01CIA-8New commit by 03zagor (r24748): Added Packard Bell Vibe 500 to build list.
11:32:14b0hoon2is it possible to add it to the build.rockbox.org? the svn image is on the flyspray FS #10947 (by a perfect hand of perfectdrug).
11:32:56Zagorsure, I'll add it
11:34:02CIA-8New commit by 03zagor (r24749): Added Packard Bell Vibe 500 target picture
11:34:48Bagderred
11:34:57Zagorah, mismatch between mine and gevaerts' commit
11:35:13ZagorI renamed the config parameter from pb_vibe500 to vibe500
11:35:13Bagdercaught red handed as they say
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11:36:22gevaertsZagor: will you fix it, or shall I?
11:36:26Zagoryou do it
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11:42:53b0hoon2Ups, something is wrong and the target don't want to build: "make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop.". Should i fix something?
11:43:24gevaertsb0hoon2: no. It should be fixed in the next build (see r24750)
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11:44:53b0hoon2Ok, thanks :)
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11:53:00Bagderthe table title pic seems to be missing
11:54:38Zagoryeah, I'm fighting that just now. I have no idea where it finds the old pb_vibe name...
11:55:36b0hoon2strange... it was for the first time.
11:57:52Zagormeh, it's in the database
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12:06:47b0hoon2allright, next step... manual... bleh i must get through it somehow.
12:08:43b0hoon2must go back to work, my manager will kill me... thanks a lot! bye.
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12:40:12*Bagder added committer #88
12:43:06*AlexP awaits the COMMITTERS mail to find out who :)
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12:52:08ucchanhi, I commit docs/COMMITERS now.
12:52:24Bagderhey ucchan, yes we noticed!
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12:54:24ucchanYes.
12:55:07ucchanMy first commit.
12:55:42ucchanThough it worries about whether it went well...
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12:56:38Torneucchan: http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi?view=rev&revision=24752 <- there you go. looks fine to me :)
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13:01:41ucchanSo my committing is good, I relieved.
13:02:29Bagderbut Zagor's vibe hacking doesn't get any bonus points just yet
13:02:45Bagderor is it gevaerts'? ;-)
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13:40:53Zagornow vibe500 is properly in the build table
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16:10:34CIA-8New commit by 03teru (r24754): FS #10535: bmp viewer plugin. ...
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16:19:00DavidMatthewscan someone add me to "WikiUsersGroup"? Please?
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16:20:39gevaertsDavidMatthews: same name on the wiki?
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16:21:20DavidMatthewsYea,
16:22:05gevaertsOK, done
16:22:13DavidMatthewsCool, Thanks!
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16:41:13kugelhm the buffering thread debug screen seems broken
16:41:13ericandorHi All, I would like to attach some external I2C chip to E260 European version. I thought that it should be easy as there is a I2C HW for FM tuner, but E260 European version does not have FM tuner. Can someone please tell me is I2C HW (pull=up resistors) present on European PCB?
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16:52:06TheSeveni would expect that there is more than just the radio on that bus
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16:52:18TheSeventhings like the power manager etc. are usually on I2C
16:54:05bob77I'm back to say thank you for the kind help on the big-disk support, it's working flawlessly =)
16:56:06ericandorThe e260 I am thinking about is v2 version, in SansaAMSHardwareMappings in GPIO ports description I see "FM i2c SCL" and "FM i2c SDA" so it could mean that I2C is used for Tuner only...
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16:56:57gevaertsericandor: if the FM chip is really missing, I'd assume that it's only the actual chip that's not there, not the PCB traces
16:58:58ericandorYes, that's true, but if FM chip is missing and if it is the only chip on I2C then some other HW could be missing, like eg. pull-up resistors.
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17:13:19pamauryCan I get write access to the wiki ?
17:16:35TheSevenwiki name?
17:17:55pamauryAmauryPouly
17:18:20TheSevenDone
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17:19:11pamaurythanks
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17:22:38hipy`Hi guys, im searching for some dudes wich would like to restart the linuxoniphone/ipod project, with CPICK
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17:52:28freddybgevaerts: would you take another look at FS #11019? I changed it so that it's just an extra option to specify the background image.
17:53:30hipy`Hi guys, im searching for some dudes wich would like to restart the linuxoniphone/ipod project, with CPICK
17:54:34evilnick_Bhipy`: Try #rockbox-community for that, as it's offtopic for this channel
17:55:07hipy`ok:)
17:59:34ericandorOne more thing about I2C, I looked for e260v2 30pin connector pin-out to see if I2C is accessible through it, but could not find such info, Does anyone knows is I2C accessible through e260v2 bottom connector ?
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18:02:48saratogaI doubt it
18:03:14saratogaalthough its possible its hidden away there and no one ever noticed
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18:10:19AlexPJdGordon: Latest patch looks A-OK
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18:14:55kugelstrange yellow
18:15:33kugelsizeof(size_t) == sizeof(long) isn't it?
18:15:42Torneno
18:15:51Tornenot on every architecture ever, anyway
18:16:08Tornesizeof(size_t) == sizeof(void*)
18:16:23gevaertsTorne: is that guaranteed?
18:16:27Tornei think so.
18:16:32Torneit might be >=
18:16:42*gevaerts would say that size_t exists because of all this uncertainty :)
18:16:46Tornesize_t needs to be able to represent the result of the difference between two pointers
18:16:49Torneso it must at leas tbe as big as a pointer
18:17:07gevaertsah, right
18:17:10Tornebut anyway, size_t and long are unrelated, for sure
18:17:16kugelah, signdness is the problem I think
18:17:29Torneyah, size_t is unsigned
18:18:18kugelTorne: what's ptrdiff_t for then?
18:18:25Torne"yes"
18:18:28Torne:)
18:18:39Tornesize_t is not really *for* that
18:18:46Torneit jus thappens that the definitions are, er, similar.
18:19:01Torneyou are supposed to use ptrdiff_t for the difference between pointers, yes
18:19:10Tornei forget the exact definitions. :)
18:19:12CIA-8New commit by 03kugel (r24756): Fix yellow caused by signedness.
18:19:42kugelintptr_t works as well for pointer diffs
18:19:48kugelit's all confusing to me :)
18:20:09Torneok the real definition is that size_t is the type of sizeof()
18:20:11kugelI only wonder why my compiler didn't emit this warning
18:20:18Torne64-bitness, probably
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18:20:41Tornemixing signed/unsigned behaves differently depending how wide your ALU is (no really)
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18:21:49ericandorsaratoga: Are all unused pins of e260v2 bottom connector connected to GND?
18:22:04Tornekugel: it's safe to just assume "compilers are weird"
18:22:06Torne:
18:22:28kugelI just thought gcc is equally weird on all systems it runs on :p
18:23:50Tornewell sorry to disappoint you :)
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19:13:53gevaertsAny arm experts around to look at my starfield pebble at gevaerts/pebble/">http://www.evonet.be/~gevaerts/pebble/ ?
19:14:23gevaertsIt crashes in star_draw(), on the draw = star->x / star->z + LCD_CENTER_X; line
19:15:08gevaertsI suspect something fishy with the division routine
19:20:28bertrikstar->z == 0?
19:21:39gevaertsI don't think so. I usually get an illegal instruction at a weird address (e8000088 IIRC)
19:22:40JdGordonAlexP: sweet! just gotta get hwcodec working and it can go in :)
19:23:40dionoeatesting for z != 0 before dividing still doesn't sound like a bad idea
19:24:26gevaertswell, the code is straight from the starfield plugin
19:24:46gevaertsalso, star_draw() is called straight after star_move(), which does check that
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19:28:07amiconngevaerts: Hmm, where's your plugin_start() function?
19:28:31dionoeait's a pebble!
19:28:45dionoea(so pebble_start)
19:28:58amiconnThat can't be
19:28:59gevaertsamiconn: the full code is at FS #11027
19:30:22gevaertsentry points are pebble_start() (which gets called on wps load), and pebble_paint() (which gets called on wps repaint)
19:30:49amiconnAh, so no ordinary plugin
19:31:25*amiconn thinks this isn't going to work
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19:36:56*amiconn wonders why this new concept reintroduces passing rb
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19:55:25gevaertsamiconn: it passes rb because I haven't fixed that bit yet. It's not meant to do that forever, but since these things can be loaded at arbitrary addresses the standard rb method needs changes, and I don't want to do too many of those at the same time
19:55:58gevaertsand yes, there's a chance that it won't work. I think it's still worth trying though
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20:00:22amiconnFrom your code it looks like ARM PIC is not quite position independent
20:00:43amiconnDid you check how PIC behaves on the other 3 architectures?
20:01:36gevaertsno. I know it links, and mcuelenaere tested the first patch on mips, but that's it right now
20:01:58gevaertshm, I haven't checked if my recent patches still link actually
20:02:26AlexPJdGordon: fms screen all working - http://imagebin.ca/view/sVVCXZv.html :)
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20:05:24bluebrotheranyone with OS X 10.4 or 10.5 around? I'd welcome reports on a new rbutil release binary which hopefully fixes the libusb issues: http://www.alice-dsl.net/dominik.riebeling/rockbox/rbutil-releases/1.2.5/rbutilqt-v1.2.5-1.dmg
20:10:43sudomani have 10.5.8 ppc
20:14:02sudomanthe original 1.2.5 wasn't working for me, but this one does ; )
20:14:24sudomanthe only thing, is that like 1.2.4, the voice files won't download.
20:14:31sudomanbut i don't need them right now anyways
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20:15:21amiconngevaerts:Are you testing on PP?
20:15:24gevaertsyes
20:15:30gevaertse200 to be precise
20:15:43pixelmabluebrother: if you would have asked an hour ago... maybe I can try sometime tomorrow (work PC is runnin MacOS 10.4)
20:15:53amiconnHow are those pebbles loaded exactly? Are they cacheline aligned?
20:16:03*amiconn somehow suspects dualcore issues
20:17:00sudomanbtw, the issue with the voice files is a 404 error.
20:17:33gevaertsthey're 4-byte aligned, cpucache_invalidate(); is called on the COP before loading, and on the main CPU after loading
20:17:50gevaertsUnless I did something wrong, that's the same as for normal plugins
20:17:52amiconnA cache line on PP is 16 byte
20:18:27amiconnAnd normal plugins are always cacheline aligned
20:18:54gevaertsthat's true
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20:20:31amiconnThe cpucache_invalidate() is correct, but won't help when cachelines overlap
20:20:40amiconnThe easiest method to rule this out is probably testing on single core
20:20:58amiconnI.e. either another target, or a single core build (that *should* still be possible)
20:21:10gevaertsgood idea
20:23:15amiconnIf this is actually the problem and you implement cache line alignment, don't forget that you also need to align the end, not just the start
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20:23:50JdGordon_AlexP: nice
20:24:19AlexPUnfortunately the "digital clock" font isn't one I can distribute
20:28:36JdGordon_there is bound to be a free one somewhere
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20:29:35AlexPYeah, I'll have a search
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20:37:03bertrikwith the new fms, it wouldn't be too hard to add a received-signal-strength-indication icon, right?
20:37:39AlexPThat'd be nice
20:37:55bluebrotherpixelma: no hurries. I might be able to finish OSX TTS support soon, having reports on that (especially on 10.4 with non-english languages) would be great.
20:38:13JdGordon_bertrik: sure, we can add anything!
20:38:24JdGordon_buit thats not implemented yet is it?
20:38:24bertriksomething like the volume, but with an antenna icon and a couple of bars
20:38:52bertrikno, it still needs to be added to the tuner interface, but it shouldn't be hard
20:39:20pixelmadoes the tuner chip really provide this info?
20:39:21JdGordon_I'm still hoping someone volanteers to move all the non drawing code out of apps/recorder/radio.c
20:39:25bertrikthe si470x has the RSSI available, and I think the radio used in the sansa e200 and c200 too
20:39:33JdGordon_too much of that should be in the drivers layer
20:40:13pixelmabertrik: as bad as the tuner in the c200 is...
20:40:18JdGordon_pixelma: ok, looks like its finished on swcodec, so could you please let me know (in the tracker) any hwcodec issues sometime soon?
20:40:45bertrikJdGordon, oh I thought that radio.c contained mostly generic radio code that is not specific to the drivers
20:41:12pixelmabertrik: I mean reception wise - the TEA tuners in my Ondio (and M5) are way better
20:41:29amiconnThe TEA5767 should also provide reception strength info
20:41:37amiconnNot sure about the really old Samsung
20:43:05JdGordon_bertrik: radio.c is a mess of the gui code, the presets code, actually controlling the radio (calling tuner_get/set())
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20:43:51JdGordon_9573 is what I started ages ago
20:44:16bertrikI agree it would be nice to have the GUI code separate. I think it's ok to have three layers: the tuner driver, some generic radio code (finding nearest preset, etc) and radio gui code
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20:46:13gevaertsIs there a register on ARM that I can assume isn't touched by anything?
20:46:43gevaertsI'd like to see if -msingle-pic-base helps, but I need a free register then...
20:47:04JdGordon_bertrik: sure, but having them all in the one file sucks
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20:47:11CIA-8New commit by 03Domonoky (r24758): rbutil: fix voice downloads.
20:47:24*S_a_i_n_t just realises that %cu and %cw both do pretty much the same thing...and ponders the point of the second one.
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20:48:22JdGordon_wtf is cu and cw?
20:48:41pixelmasome RTC (date) info
20:48:52JdGordon_ah
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20:49:32S_a_i_n_tthey're both day of the week, cu is 1~7 starting monday, and cw is 0~6 starting sunday
20:49:42S_a_i_n_t?
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20:51:55JdGordon_for completeness
20:52:49gevaertshttp://www.mail-archive.com/uclinux-dev@uclinux.org/msg05579.html looks familiar...
20:54:12bluebrotherdomonoky: why are the TTS classes not doing the speaking itself? Wouldn't it be easier to have a talk() function similar to voice()?
20:54:42bluebrotherat least on mac this is a bit annoying as the API can do the talking itself. Converting it around multiple times makes that "Test TTS" button really slow
20:54:55domonokytrue, but i didnt know if i can manage that for all of them.
20:55:07S_a_i_n_thow is one more complete than the other (:P), they both display the say of the week but have a slightly different order...
20:55:29S_a_i_n_tthere should be slightly different, weird variations of alll the tags :D
20:55:47S_a_i_n_t*day rather
20:56:03domonokymaybe we should make talk() functions into the tts and a canTalk() function, so we can fallback to tts->wav. wav -> talk.
20:56:05bertrikthe lv240xx chip (e200/c200) can indeed provide RSSI, it looks like it's not available in the TEA576x
20:56:12bluebrothershouldn't it be possible to have an implementation in the base class that does the speaking by creating a temporary file first, then call the appropriate playback function?
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20:56:24domonokybluebrother: even better.
20:56:30bluebrotherso I could overwrite that in the mac implementation.
20:56:38bertrikas far as I can see, the TEA576x does have an internal ADC to get RSSI but it's not exposed on the i2c interface
20:57:06JdGordon_bertrik: i think there is a patch that adds it to tea576x
20:57:14bluebrotherthe problem on mac is that I have a conversion tts -> aiff -> wav. Makes it somewhat slower :)
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20:59:44domonokybluebrother: so if you could move the talking function into the tts classes, it would be great :-)
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21:00:51bluebrotherwell, I'm planning to add OSX TTS support first ;-)
21:01:24bluebrotherthe default voice on mac is really great, especially compared with Microsoft Sam
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21:06:18bertrikthat radio strength patch doesn't look too bad
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21:09:48pixelmaJdGordon_: re. the radio screen patch - I'll try to test tomorrow evening
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21:12:41JdGordon_thanks
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21:14:55bertrikdomonoky, can you try an si470x patch on your e200v2?
21:15:36domonokyyes, but only if you can build it for me (my arm build tools are currently broken)
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21:15:58bertrikok, I'll give you a binary in 15 mins or so
21:16:52LearRegarding toolchains, anyone know if gcc 4.4 (−−eabi) causes test_codec problems?
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21:25:45bertrikdomonoky, can you try this file and see if the radio still works ? http://filebin.ca/syducx/rockbox.sansa
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21:31:42domonokybertrik: doesnt work, it seems to crash when i enter the fm screen.
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21:32:12domonokyi get a empty fm screen, and no reaction anymore, i need to use looong power to shutdown.
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21:33:35bertrikdomonoky, that's a pity, I was hoping to make initialisation simpler, but apparently it failed
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22:09:32JdGordon_gevaerts: if you fix up the problems in pebbles is there any reason to not just outright replace the plugin loader with that instead of adding a new plugin type?
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22:09:59JdGordon_I mean, other than losing the name pebbles :p
22:10:04gevaertsJdGordon_: we'll see
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22:10:27gevaertsPIC code might be a bit slower and/or bigger
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22:11:34gevaertsThe pebbles can't be normal plugins (different entry points), so the header will be a bit different. I'd like to use the same loader though
22:11:55JdGordon_why cant they have the same entry point?
22:12:49gevaertsYou're the one who wanted two functions!
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22:13:36JdGordon_I wanted more than two. but you really only need one entry point and some callbacks
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22:14:30gevaertsI don't really see the advantage of trying to shoehorn the things in the exact same API
22:14:40gevaertsWe already do have two plugin types
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22:34:00JdGordon_tomers: hey, do you use the playlist viewer at all?
22:34:07JdGordon_I probably messed up the RTL handling
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22:35:43tomersJdGordon: hey, I'm not using it. do you want me to test something particular
22:35:45tomers?
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22:38:42JdGordon_I added support for the alignemnt tags so just give a quick check that they work correctly if the enclosing viewport is %ax'ed
22:39:58tomersI thought about an idea for GSoC project: Automatic tests framework. It takes the binaries of all simulator builds and runs some tests upon them, injecting key presses and taking screenshots
22:40:42tomersJdGordon: so what shall I test? maybe you should send me a theme to test?
22:40:48JdGordon_rasher's done some work on that i believe
22:41:04JdGordon_I dont have one handy (still at work)
22:42:09tomersJdGordon: it will be a lot easier for me if you prepare me a file, or tell me what line to write in the wps skin file
22:42:55tomersthe frame work then diffs the screenshot with latest approved screen shot (regression test), ignoring pre-defined screen regions (clock, progress bar, etc)
22:43:10JdGordon_%ax%V|10|10|80|20|1|-|-|
22:43:10JdGordon_%Vp|1|%ar%ia|%al%fn|
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22:44:15JdGordon_then just fiddle with the %al and %ar
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22:45:41domonokytomers: the problem with such a test framework, is that its probably much work to keep it uptodate.
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22:47:22tomersdomonoky: true. but if there's a web site that controls it, e.g. mailing list for this system which sends error notification messages that contains the diffed images, with two links - approve, or mark as bug, then it will be easier to maintain
22:49:34*gevaerts isn't too optimisitic about that sort of idea
22:50:03tomersthat's just a idea, thoguh
22:50:13tomerss/thoguh/though
22:50:18*domonoky thinks it will be hard to not get too much false positives, and if there are too much, people will ignore it.
22:51:14gevaertsrasher has tried to get automated screenshots working. I think he finally gave up
22:51:14JdGordon_seconded
22:51:37*domonoky would find it better if we manage to finish out testpage, to collect reports about test coverage for rc builds.
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22:51:53JdGordon_besides, I tihnk if any testing framework happens it should be in the playback area and not screen drawing area
22:52:25Bagderyeah, I would think a test suite would be better to do unit-tests on parts of rockbox
22:53:02tomershmmm... so maybe audio regression tests? diff audio files?
22:53:19gevaertstomers: no, that's not the problem
22:53:29JdGordon_regression tests are a waste of time
22:53:50domonokyyeah, tests on parts would probably more usefull, automated testcodec runs with compare on a big folder of tests file for example.
22:54:20Bagderand I disagree that regression tests are a waste of time
22:54:39Bagderthey're _awesome_ when you do code rearranges or big rewrites
22:55:04gevaertsthat's also when it's the hardest to keep the test code working
22:55:10Bagdertrue
22:55:33Bagderbut for example making sure that a decoded song gets a certain output,...
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22:56:40gevaertsI'm just thinking that historically that's not really where we've had issues
22:56:51gevaerts*cough*early usb*cough*
22:56:55Bagderhaha
22:56:56domonokyand a table of differences in codec performance, like the size table would be nice :-)
22:57:27domonokybut the true problems are mostly not testable with a sim.
22:57:28Bagderbut it would help for example when trying to improve the buffer or codec parts of the code
22:57:52JdGordon_so someone needs to rip playback out and make it a seperate library so it can be tested without using the sim
22:58:17Bagderit'd just be a special kind of sim
22:58:20tomersdomonoky: table of codec sizes can be calculated after build, right?
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22:59:08domonokytomers: yes, the size should be available, but we want the performance. :-)
22:59:48*gevaerts has the solution: position-independent plugins
22:59:58domonokyie how many Mhz do you need to get realtime, but its probably not really doable without target, because of all those asm optimisations.
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23:00:41gevaertsIf you have those, all you need is lua bindings for injecting key presses or menu choices, and you're in business
23:00:42saratogaregression tests for playback would be very nice
23:00:53saratogabut we'd need a way to run the playback engine outside of rockbox
23:01:43CIA-8New commit by 03tomers (r24759): Brickmania: Test returned value of file operations ...
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23:03:25tomersmaybe that's a silly idea - but if the build system would generate a graphical image of each target's memory layout, that would be cool
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23:08:30tomersso do we have something out of the discussion for a testing platform? is there any idea that we can progress with?
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23:10:46*bluebrother would like to see tests for Rockbox Utility
23:11:30bluebrotherif only there wasn't this target dependencies all the time :/
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23:21:15tomersThere's a Vim script that highlights WPS definitions. It is in http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=2550 the problem is that this script lags behind new WPS tokens added to the language. The author seems to update the script if you send him a patch (which I did), but I wonder if we should have it under SVN, in a directory under /tools which is dedicated to the development...
23:21:17tomers...environment. We can also put there some scripts people use on their daily work. What do you think?
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23:23:15JdGordon_yeah, probably
23:24:11gevaertsdoes the author want that?
23:25:16tomersI'll ask for his permission. but lets say he agrees...
23:25:45*gevaerts notices that the file doesn't seem to have a license
23:26:05tomersand lets say he agrees to have it GPL'ed
23:26:32gevaertsin that case, sure, by all means have it in svn
23:26:57tomerswhere? /tools/env ?
23:27:45gevaertsutils/
23:28:02gevaertstools/ is for things that are needed to build
23:28:16tomerswhere in /utils?
23:28:39gevaertseditors?
23:29:19tomersis there anything else, development-environment-wise that we should maintain? any idea?
23:29:50gevaertswell, definitely not an emacs script :)
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23:30:41Bagdertools/rockbox-style.el ...
23:30:57gevaertsAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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23:31:04pamauryNobody against closing patch "FS #9780 - logf(), logfdisplay(), logfdump() functions update. " ? It's obsolete as we changed the logf code a few months ago.
23:31:28gevaertsBagder: shouldn't that be in utils as well these days?
23:31:37Bagderit should probably, yes
23:31:51tomersROFL... should we move tools/rockbox-style.el to /util/editors/ ?
23:32:15gevaertspamaury: that sounds good
23:32:29tomersI'll do it now... anybody reject we call it /util/editors ?
23:34:16bluebroth3reditors? Do we have more than one?
23:34:35saratogapamaury: isn't that uchida's work?
23:34:50gevaertsbluebroth3r: well, there's the vim wps syntax thing, and the emacs coding style thing
23:35:09bluebroth3rhmm, ok. That's at least more than one ;-)
23:35:23pamaurysaratoga: yes it's a patch of uchida's
23:35:26*tomers sent request to the author of the vim syntax script
23:36:29tomersbluebroth3r: I'm moving it, ok?
23:37:23bluebroth3rtomers: sure.
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23:41:44saratogapamaury: hes got SVN access now, so I'd probably let him handle it
23:42:17CIA-8New commit by 03tomers (r24760): Have /utils/editors to contain syntax files for WPS and possibly others Rockbox ...
23:44:40pamaurysaratoga: yes I know he got svn access but perhaps he won't pay attention to a patch that is more than one year old and that never got any attention. I see no reason to keep a patch is completely obsolete :)
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23:46:22tomersJdGordon: did you open a new FS item following the scrolling bug you found on FS #11033?
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23:52:54pamauryJdGordon: do still plan to have 'FS #9506 - buffer_alloc the dircache stack ' committed one day ? It saves nearly nothing now because I reduced dircache stack to 0x600 bytes (1.5KiB)
23:55:22pamauryJdGordon_:^^
23:58:58TheSevenpamaury: the same thing coudl be applied to the sector buffers?

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