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#rockbox log for 2010-04-10

00:01:13amiconngah
00:01:25amiconn"Rockbox svn - more broken than ever" :(
00:01:41Tornewhat?
00:01:46amiconnMany things
00:01:54*amiconn is upgrading all his targets
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00:02:08Torneis it my fault? :)
00:02:19amiconnDon't know yet
00:02:44amiconnPlayer: USB is broken (hangs). File delete is broken (confirmation hangs). Charging screen causes ata panic
00:02:58amiconnMini: USB screen layout is broken (squeezed vertically)
00:05:50gevaertswe definitely have a problem with insufficient testing on some targets
00:05:51*amiconn also thought that rtc is broken on mini, but that was due to me updating the thing exactly at 00:00 by coincidence
00:06:04amiconns/me/him/
00:06:35Tornehehe
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00:07:54*Strife89 hasn't noticed any standout problems, aside from when updating an old checkout of svn.
00:08:11Strife89Lots of conflicts that svn couldn't resolve without my input.
00:08:35*Torne recommends you use git/bzr and multiple branches, srsly :)
00:08:37Strife89I don't remember how old the checkout was to begin with. I wager at least four weeks.
00:09:22Strife89Torne: svn may be aggrivating at times, but I've gotten used to it for the most part.
00:09:28Strife89:)
00:09:37Torneyes, but i mean.. git/bzr can resolve better.
00:10:07Strife89As a side note, I currently use six patches.
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00:11:16pixelmascrolling lines still appearing on the USB screen (in the screen you entered it from) is what I noticed
00:12:02pixelmaon all my targets... of course you are more likely to notice on small screen or with large font
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00:12:57pixelmaand that's a bug that seems to appear in different screens from time to time :\
00:13:37Torneyeah, i've never noticed that but I rarely have any scrolling lines..
00:14:06Blue_Dudepixelma: I've been noticing the USB scroll thing for months. It shows up as a new bug once in a while but it's the same old one.
00:14:33Blue_DudeIt's annoying but I don't think it hurts anythig.
00:14:37Blue_Dudeanything
00:14:50amiconnIt hurts usability
00:15:22Strife89One issue I've noticed on some themes with large SBSes...
00:15:29Blue_DudeWell it's ugly and unexpected but it doesn't cause actual harm does it?
00:15:43pixelmawell, probably this one might date back to USB screen viewportification which is a while ago already. But I saw similar things in the radio screen before etc.
00:16:00Strife89If an SBS crosses the middle portion of the screen, splashes will get "stuck" behind the viewport.
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00:18:30Strife89Another notable problem occurs with the "loading" splash when loading/generating a playlist.
00:18:40Strife89For example, try this:
00:19:01Strife89Load a theme with a graphically notable SBS.
00:19:23Strife89Then use the file browser to locate your main Music folder.
00:20:08Strife89Long Select (or whatever is appropriate) the folder, then choose Playlist -> Insert (or Insert Shuffled).
00:20:29Strife89As Rockbox generates and loads the playlist, you will see MASSIVE flickering.
00:21:09Torneyeah, i noticed this with db updating
00:21:17Tornethe sbs gets toggled on and off by the splash
00:21:27Tornebut the splash gets re-launched repeatedly, which makes it flash
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00:42:13CIA-5New commit by 03pixelma (r25559): Add a bunch of plugin screenshots for use in the Iaudio M3 manual (and update the goban one as it used wrong colours).
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00:49:53pixelmagot to repeat my question - shouldn't the mandelbrot screenshot images in the manual also be renamed to fractals? Just a thing behind the scenes but
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01:09:23ruebyiJust a very short question: I'm searching for the Bootloader File for Fuze v2, but I can't find any link. Did I miss something?
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01:19:15CIA-5New commit by 03Blue_Dude (r25560): Corrects bug in r25558 that could have resumed the wrong file under a certain condition.
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01:41:45ruebyiI found my answer in an IRC protocoll 2 or 3 days ago. There is no official Bootloader for Fuze V2 too, yet. sorry for bothering!
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02:09:44alex_1is there somewhere datasheet for pp5022? thanks.
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07:27:38IpsilonHi guys, any developments on sansa fuze v2?
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08:55:25CIA-5New commit by 03tomers (r25561): FS #11193 - rbutil: HTTP 404 error when downloading zipped version of the manual
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08:58:27tomerssorry all for spamming you with FlySpray items :-) I would've just commit last fix, but I didn't intend to do so at first (lack of time) - so I opened a bug report...
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09:56:46CIA-5New commit by 03bluebrother (r25562): Fix Ipod Mini manual. ...
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11:24:08CIA-5New commit by 03jethead71 (r25564): Gigabeat S/i.MX31: Continue, and most likely complete, the platform/player-specific code/data shuffling begun in r25547.
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13:26:45yorickis there a way to get all music of an ipod video(clean it) without reformatting?
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13:27:44B4gderyou mean erasing it all?
13:27:58B4gderjust delete all files!
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13:28:43yorickB4gder: I mean delete the files in the itunes library
13:28:49yorickwithout actually having itunes
13:29:04GodEaterrm -rf /media/ipod_mount_point/ipod_control
13:29:13yorickwould the OF like that?
13:29:19B4gderitunes library without itunes?
13:29:40yorickB4gder: music is stored on the ipod using itunes database files
13:29:41GodEaterthe OF would complain you'd lost your language settings next time you booted it, and make you set them again
13:29:45GodEaterbut that's about it
13:30:08*B4gder stops trying
13:30:08yorickbecause the rockbox database is finding files that aren't actually supposed to be on my ipod
13:30:20GodEaterit's good at that
13:30:21yorickI blame rhythmbox
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15:05:02Rodrigo_Petruccihi, my Sansa e260 won't show up as a drive on W7 so I can't install the firmware. what to do?
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15:07:17yorickRodrigo_Petrucci: make it show up as a drive
15:07:35Rodrigo_Petrucciyorick could you tell me how to do it? thanks
15:08:14yorickRodrigo_Petrucci: no idea, but you could look in the manual
15:09:00Rodrigo_Petrucciyorick i'm searching in the forums, hope i'll find what i need
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15:15:47ender`Rodrigo_Petrucci: switch it to MSC mode
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15:20:32yorickRodrigo_Petrucci: you could try "Engage HOLD (orange showing), then press and hold << REWIND button while connecting to your USB port."
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15:23:01*Strife89 has a small idea for the file browser.
15:23:21S_a_i_n_tStrife89: Come back when it's a large one ;)
15:23:21Strife89Picture this: dual-line "details" view.
15:23:31Strife89:p
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15:23:57Strife89Basically, in this viewing mode, each file gets two lines on the screen.
15:24:10Strife89The first line shows the file name, as normal.
15:24:17S_a_i_n_tAhhh, like filesize, creation date etc.?
15:24:26Strife89The second line shows
15:24:32Strife89S_a_i_n_t: shows that. :)
15:24:53S_a_i_n_tsorry to take the wind out of your sails captain ;)
15:25:08Strife89XD
15:25:20Strife89Anyway, opinions?
15:25:40S_a_i_n_tGood idea for the larger screens, smaller screens not so much. As an option, it'd be great.
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15:26:16gevaertsS_a_i_n_t: well, what you *actually* want is skinning support in the file browser :)
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15:26:41*S_a_i_n_t wants skinning support for *evrything* ;D
15:27:37*yorick just wants support for *everything*
15:28:04S_a_i_n_tBuy a jockstrap... :P
15:29:05yorickD:
15:30:40TheSevenS_a_i_n_t: did you already ask JdGordon regarding the volume bar?
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15:31:06S_a_i_n_tNah..sorry, I slept all day. Didn't catch him.
15:31:14S_a_i_n_tI'm interested about it howeevr.
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15:32:07Strife89TheSeven: <S_a_i_n_t> Nah..sorry, I slept all day. Didn't catch him.
15:32:08Strife89<S_a_i_n_t> I'm interested about it howeevr.
15:32:25yorickFlyspray advanced search doesn't allow to search for feature requests?
15:32:31TheSevenJdGordon: around?
15:32:33TheSevenStrife89: thanks, but I already saw them in the logs
15:32:46Strife89^^:
15:32:53TheSevenyorick: It bugs me way more that it doesn't allow to search for all bugs of a specified target
15:33:59bertrikTheSeven, yeah that bugged me too
15:37:51Rodrigo_Petrucciender` made it to work! thanks!
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16:02:17pixelmayorick: there is no feature request tracker (anymore)
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16:14:37CIA-5New commit by 03tomers (r25565): Rbutil: Some small Hebrew translation fixes
16:15:30*JdGordon magically returns
16:15:50S_a_i_n_tTheSeven: Now! Jump him!
16:15:52JdGordonS_a_i_n_t: whatcha winging about now?
16:16:05S_a_i_n_tTheSeven started it... ;)
16:16:34S_a_i_n_tVolome that works the same way as playbar...ie. no massive bitmap strips to fill up the skinn buffer
16:16:40S_a_i_n_t*volume
16:16:56JdGordonshuold be simple to do
16:17:01S_a_i_n_twoo!
16:17:14JdGordonnot likely me doing it an time soon though
16:17:46JdGordonthis is part of the "it would be nice if one tag could use anothers value" feature
16:18:01S_a_i_n_tWell, no..we do realise your not our wee feature goblin ;)
16:20:32JdGordonactually, it should be simple enbough to modify %pb to work woth volume bars also
16:20:40JdGordon%vb with the same syntax
16:20:42JdGordonor something
16:21:01JdGordonbut, this goes back to how to represent volume as a percentage
16:21:26S_a_i_n_tI've no idea how it could be done, I just figured that if playbar could do it then there's no reason to not have "smooth volume" also.
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16:22:05S_a_i_n_tahhh, yes, the "stop at odB, or is 100% the "max" value" thing?
16:22:13S_a_i_n_t*0dB
16:23:40S_a_i_n_tI myself thing that 0~100% should be the highest and lowest value the player can produce...but after having it drilled into me I do understand why 0dB is "100%" also.
16:23:49S_a_i_n_ts/thing/think/
16:23:55JdGordonI tihnk the last time this came up we came up with a second tag "is volume above 0dB?" so the volume would to mute->0dB and you would use another tag if its >0
16:24:58S_a_i_n_tthe idea of "greater then 100%" just baffles me...
16:25:28S_a_i_n_tThat's why I think it should be the players highest/lowest value for 0/100% respectively.
16:25:55JdGordonbut clipping sucks, and most people wont know the difference, so mute-0 does make sense
16:26:16JdGordon(when i first joined rb we were showing it as % and not dB)
16:26:28S_a_i_n_tMost people (IMO) understand that the player WILL clip at 100% though
16:26:37S_a_i_n_trunning it at full is just silly
16:27:07JdGordonso you want to know when you are above that level
16:27:21*JdGordon doesnt really want to have this discussion now :p
16:27:38S_a_i_n_tNeither do I, but...gah.
16:27:42S_a_i_n_tIts a hard one lol
16:28:50yorickhmm...2:17/1:58 something is broken
16:29:39bluebroth3rtomers: what's the state of FS #11163? Did you check the values I've asked for in the comments?
16:31:19bluebroth3rdomonoky: I'd like to start a new rbutil release shortly. Any objections?
16:36:28yorickI think length detection is broken with MP3 VBR
16:37:14JdGordonbluebroth3r: have you got an osx box to build on?
16:37:20JdGordonmine is offline till prob mid week
16:37:38domonokybluebroth3r: no objections, go forward.
16:37:57bluebroth3rJdGordon: yes
16:39:15bluebroth3rJdGordon: I've got an OS X box since half a year or so now. That's the reason why I can work on OS X specific fixes and improvements ;-)
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16:46:12tomersbluebroth3r, bluebrother : ping
16:46:25bluebroth3rtomers: pong
16:46:32pixelmayorick: could be your mp3 broken too. Did you check its ID3 tags or ran vbr fix?
16:46:33tomerssorry for my long delays :-)
16:47:28tomersI checked it at my workplace (I'm not there ATM), and I got into the following conclusion: If I set IE to PAC, and then Rbutil to manual proxy, then Rbutil fails
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16:47:57tomersBut if I remove the PAC from IE, then with the same manual proxy settings, Rbutil connects as expected
16:47:57bluebroth3rinteresting. I have a similar setup at work and that works fine.
16:48:34bluebroth3rso you have selected the manual proxy settings in rbutil, not just entered the values manually and left the selection to system, right?
16:48:40tomersI don't know what other stuff the IT team have put on my laptop @ work, so it might be some non conventional configuration...
16:49:29tomersby the way, there are some sentences in rbutil which ends with a dot, and some other don't
16:49:47tomersI once removed the dot from all of them, and you got annoyed by it :-)
16:49:54bluebroth3ryes :)
16:50:01tomerswould you like me to add missing dots for some of them?
16:50:27bluebroth3rI know that several strings are inconsistent. Consistency is good, but we need to check which way to go
16:50:56bluebroth3rI was also especially annoyed by the commit message saying something about "fix" though it didn't fix anything. It just changed it.
16:51:18tomersoh, right... I'm not a native english speaker...
16:51:49bluebroth3rI'm neither. But fixing implies it was broken before :)
16:52:10tomersI'll try to remember that next time
16:52:16bluebroth3rand, according to my knowledge of typography, the original state was correct.
16:52:47bluebroth3rhowever, as I'm not a native speaker either it should be discussed how the strings should look like.
16:52:50tomersif I got time, i'll make it more consistent (with the dots included)
16:53:17tomersIs there a way to share translation between different context?
16:53:30bluebroth3rlike: is there a space before an ellipsis, how should open sentences (that get finished in the next log message) handled etc.
16:53:51bluebroth3rshare between different context?
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16:54:13bluebroth3rif you change such things please post it to FS first so we can discuss how we want to handle strings.
16:54:32tomersI mean with Qt Linguist, there's BootloaderInstallAms, BootloaderInstallTcc etc, some of them share similar strings
16:54:42bluebroth3rIt doesn't make much sense you changing it if there hasn't been a consensus. Otherwise the next time something gets added / changed the strings can become inconsistent again.
16:55:00tomersok, I'll post it on FS
16:55:15bluebroth3rlinguist helps you by showing possible translations in a window (usually at the bottom)
16:55:47bluebroth3ras far as I've seen are identical strings merged for translations (hence multiple "source" values), but not between classes.
16:56:24tomersright, so I meant is there a way to share between clases
16:56:32bluebroth3rthere's also some work with regards to strings in the chinachippatcher code. The current implementation is hacky at best, and current versions of Qt don't like that anymore.
16:58:47bluebroth3rI _remember_ having seen something that allows specifying a different scope for a translation string. Can't find it anymore, however. "Moving" strings to a different class doesn't seem like a good idea to me anyway, as it breaks with OO concepts.
16:59:04tomersI especially didn't like to translate the following string for each bootloader type: "Bootloader installation requires you to provide a firmware file of the original firmware (HXF file). You need to download this file yourself due to legal reasons. Please refer to the <a href='http://www.rockbox.org/manual.shtml'>manual</a> and the <a href='http://www.XXX'>YYY</a> wiki page on how to obtain...
16:59:05tomers...this file.<br/>Press Ok to continue and browse your computer for the firmware file."
16:59:50tomersIf it could somehow been shared across bootloader types it would be better
16:59:52bluebroth3rtomers: well, _that_ string is different for all bootloader installation classes.
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17:00:36bluebroth3rso especially that string (though it is somewhat longer and the content is always similar) doesn't make sense to get unified.
17:00:49tomersI know, but we could have used a placeholder for file extension, wiki page name, etc (although AMS has one more link than the others)
17:01:53bluebroth3rI don't think the added complexity justifies that. When translating with Linguist you can simply pick a translation of the string for a different bootloader class and adjust the needed parts.
17:02:07bluebroth3rbesides, those strings shouldn't change much anyway :)
17:02:51tomersI also don't phrases like "You need to fix the above errors before you can continue." I prefer "The above errors need to be fixed" phrasing
17:03:31bluebroth3rwell, that's definitely something that can get discussed. Goes with the dot issues :)
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17:04:00tomersbluebroth3r: nevermind, I'm just ranting here, I think I finally completed translation of rbutil to Hebrew, so...
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17:05:28tomersbluebroth3r: So regarding FS #11163 is there anything else I can help?
17:05:34CIA-5New commit by 03bluebrother (r25566): Add Rockbox Utility binaries for OS other than linux to svn:ignore too.
17:06:29bluebroth3rtomers: not sure. I'll try to check the pac thing you mentioned and see if that has any effect.
17:06:37tomersok thanks
17:10:42bluebroth3rthough that has to wait a couple of days
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17:10:42tomersbluebroth3r: When I open ui file in Qt Creator, and it saves it back, then Qt creator changes the XML file - makes it neater, and maybe some other minor changes. what do you think about normalizing all ui files according to Qt Createor's formatting?
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17:10:42bluebroth3rtomers: that's a bad idea.
17:10:42tomersdo we need to have some 'formal' designer / debugger ?
17:11:16bluebroth3rbasically, all ui files are created by Designer, which is embedded in Creator. So if someone uses an older version of Designer than you did it's likely the file gets changed back to the "less neater" variant.
17:11:27bluebroth3rformal designer? What do you mean by that?
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17:11:50tomersI mean 'recommended' way to design,
17:12:16bluebroth3rnone that I'm aware of. Make sure you have some feeling for the "usual" HID guidelines.
17:12:18tomersand have some instructions in the RockboxUtilityDevelopment page
17:12:32*bluebroth3r plans on reading HID guidelines but hasn't found the time so far
17:12:54bluebroth3rwell, even if we did it wouldn't have any effect on the xml code in the ui files
17:13:33Blue_DudeAny comments/suggestions/complaints from anyone regarding updating the bookmark format? It's reaching the point of diminishing returns and it's about time to commit.
17:13:45bluebroth3rbasically, don't create widgets / forms that look unexpected or put buttons / strings in places where they aren't expected.
17:14:16tomersbluebroth3r: I couldn't debug using Qt Creator. I tried setting a breakpoint, but the icon of red circle had an X on it, and the debugger didn't stop on the breakpoint. i noticed that there's only the release configuration. there weren't any debug configuration. i guess that's related
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17:14:55bluebroth3rwell, the configurations in Creator are your user configurations. You can edit them.
17:15:13bluebroth3rit's basically configuring how qmake is called. For debug builds we need -config dbg
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17:15:41bluebroth3rCreator saves that in a file rbutilqt.pro.user, but that's specific for your setup
17:15:45tomersis there a gui way to set it?
17:15:50bluebroth3ryes.
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17:16:53bluebroth3ron Windows I found that (a) MinGW doesn't come with gdb installed per default and (b) gdb can be a bit unreliable. Though I've never looked further in that, I usually debug on linux
17:17:39tomersI work with Linux. I'll try that
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17:18:41bluebroth3rinterestingly Creator has some startup issues on Linux for me. Not on OS X or Windows though
17:19:24bluebroth3rgo to Projects in the sidebar, then edit the run configuration(s) you need
17:20:22bluebroth3ron my OS X setup I only have a Debug configuration. Likely to be caused by the initial opening in a folder where I had configured with -config dbg before.
17:20:56bluebroth3rthough I haven't checked for details :)
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17:22:30tomersi cleaned my rbutil directory, opened creator (qtcreator rbutil.pro) and then went to 'Projects'->Build Steps, I can see 'Qmake Build Configuration' combobox (release/debug) is that what you mean?
17:23:16*tomers forgot the wiki page mentioned to use 'qmake -config dbg'...
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17:36:58bluebroth3rtomers: sorry, had to fight with Creator to get the GUI non-localized. I was talking about this: http://www.alice-dsl.net/dominik.riebeling/rockbox/creator-project.png
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17:39:41CIA-5New commit by 03bluebrother (r25567): Update Rockbox Utility version to 1.2.6
17:41:35CIA-5New commit by 03bluebrother (r25568): Tag rbutil 1.2.6 release.
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17:42:53tomersbluebroth3r: thanks a lot!
17:42:58*tomers got to go
17:44:14tomersbluebroth3r: Congrats! You should update 'Project news' too :-)
17:45:12bluebroth3rtomers: we didn't announce Rockbox Utility in the Project News section in the past, but it might indeed be a good idea.
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17:46:50CFPhello world :)
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17:47:43worldhello CFP :)
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17:48:02CFPha =)
17:48:14CFPI'm keeping that one ; )
17:49:27CFPI've recently posted a patch about the alarmclock plugin
17:49:38CFPanybody had time to give it a look?
17:50:10CFPI figured that it had a weird bug, and I think I've eventually found a clean fix \o/
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17:55:33CIA-5New commit by 03mc2739 (r25569): Fix scrolling line artifacts on USB screen - should fix FS #11154
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18:08:04pixelmahmm... there is no font specified in the cabbiev2 file for the M3 (Iaudio). Maybe it has to do with the fact that this one is also the remote theme for the other supported Iaudios and the font is set for the main screens there
18:10:17pixelmain the theme file I mean
18:18:10pixelmadoes someone know what the pictures in manual/getting_started/images were used for and whether they are still needed? They look like a relic from the old manual or so, mabe they could be removed...
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18:20:02bluebrotherpixelma: iirc they were used in a device overview table that was remove years ago
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18:22:24pixelmaah, I think those are the same as used on the DeviceChart wiki. The ones in the manual folder are Archos devices only though and the pictures now used in the download table etc. are made from the SVGs and in the www module
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18:23:41bluebrotherlooks like. IMO those images can get removed; even if we would introduce such a table again we wouldn't use them anymore since we now have all those nice svg images
18:25:59pixelmado we need the "images" folder in "getting_started" at all then?
18:26:11bluebrotherI don't think so
18:27:10pixelmalet's see how simple (or not) deleting the folder in SVN is
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18:27:50bluebrothersvn rm manual/getting_started/images && svn ci manual/getting_started :)
18:30:05gevaertsbluebrother: that would surprise me :)
18:30:14gevaertsor maybe not
18:31:13pixelmathere are a few other unused screenshots, e.g. in the plugins section there are a few mpegplayer and a jpegviewer screenshot for a few targets which aren't used and there's a "recording-screen" one for the bitmap Archoses while the screenshot is actually called "while-recording-screen" and is there also
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18:33:57pixelmahmpf, viewer icons aren't specified for the M3 either (and no backdrop)
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18:34:46gevaertsCan you install your own bootloader on ipod with rbutil?
18:34:49*pixelma *just* wanted to add missing screenshots and as usual discovers even more things to do
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18:35:53yorickhmm...not only does it overestimate the track length, it can also continue playing the 3:38 minute during track for the full 30 minutes
18:35:58S_a_i_n_tgevaerts: Errr...don;t think so.
18:36:05S_a_i_n_tCould be wrong though.
18:36:47gevaertsS_a_i_n_t: I don't think you can either, I just want some confirmation before I reply to http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=24439.msg164983#msg164983 :)
18:36:49yorickas if it were in fact 30 minutes
18:37:02pixelmayorick: I asked you whether you checked the ID3 tag of this track or ran vbr fix on your file
18:37:06domonokygevaerts: no, rbutil only installs bootloaders from the download server.
18:37:09pixelmaages ago
18:37:15S_a_i_n_tgevaerts: yeah, pretty sure that's a job solely for ipodpatcher
18:37:26yorickpixelma: it appears not to be a VBR track
18:37:27bluebrothergevaerts: why would that surprise you?
18:37:39gevaertsbluebrother: because I misread
18:37:51yorickrockbox is claiming this track is 32 kb/s
18:37:59bluebrotherB4gder: can you move the rbutil 1.2.6 binaries? http://www.alice-dsl.net/dominik.riebeling/rockbox/rbutil-releases/1.2.6/
18:38:03bluebrothergevaerts: ah :)
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18:39:15S_a_i_n_tyorick: You haven't messed with timestretch have you?
18:39:25yorickS_a_i_n_t: I believe not
18:39:31yorickit plays other stuff fine
18:40:13S_a_i_n_tHmmmm, well..if that's the case (it playing other stuff fine) then I'd suggest the file was broken...not RB
18:40:25yorickI think skip is broken a bit
18:40:44yorickS_a_i_n_t: the file plays fine on vlc, totem and other stuff
18:40:47yorickOF
18:41:13yorickhmm yes it appears that skip actually isn't skipping anything
18:41:20yorickjust moving the progress bar
18:41:35S_a_i_n_twhat type of file is this?
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18:42:00pixelmamaybe you set skip length to something other than "track"?
18:42:10yorickmp3 file
18:42:19yorickstereo
18:42:24yorickbitrate 256 kb/s
18:42:34yoricksample speed 48000 Hz
18:45:00S_a_i_n_tCan you check "Settings -> Playback Settings -> Skip Length" please?
18:45:07S_a_i_n_tJust for a sanity check.
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18:47:37yorickSkip Track
18:47:55pixelmathere's also another setting called "prevent track skip" or so.
18:48:15yorickbut...update: when playing without skip, it continues to the next track on the time vlc says the length is
18:48:33yorickwhen skipping, it only updates the time counter
18:48:46yorickPrevent Track Skipping: No
18:49:14S_a_i_n_tSomethings fishy with the file...that's my guess.
18:49:23S_a_i_n_tWhat that is exactly...dunno.
18:49:41Luca_Scan you try stripping all the ID3 tags?
18:49:44pixelmaso the track length info is wrong in the WPS (stays at the one of the track you skipped "from")?
18:50:28toffe82this look interesting (theora on ARM and modified Tremor decoder) :http://wss.co.uk/pinknoise/theorarm/
18:50:42yoricktrack length info is wrong yes...
18:51:03yorickand skipping has no effect on the playback, exept for temporarily muting :P
18:51:43yorickthere's something fishy with another file on the same album too
18:52:03yorickit has a digital click in front of it, and the track length info is a couple of seconds too short
18:52:07pixelmaand you are not pressing the button for too long? Sorry for all my inquiry but I haven't noticed these sort of problems
18:52:13yorickLuca_S: how do I do that
18:52:28S_a_i_n_tmp3Tag, or similar
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18:52:30yorickpixelma: when I skip it for more than a minute, it hangs...too
18:52:32Luca_Son Windows, I usually use mp3tag
18:52:49Luca_Swinamp can do that too IIRC
18:53:05pixelma"skip for more than a minute" - could your rephrase
18:53:53yorickpixelma: when I hold the button for lets say...10 seconds, it doesn't do anything until I release it
18:54:25stripwax__toffe82 - Tremolo has been discussed quite a lot before; I believe we are currently significantly quicker
18:55:11yorickhmm my other fishy track has id3v2.4
18:55:12S_a_i_n_tyorick: I dont understand "it doesn't do anything until I release it"
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18:55:27yorickS_a_i_n_t: the skipping stops, but the playing doesn't continue
18:55:30S_a_i_n_tyou mean, you can't "see" it seeking?
18:55:34yorickyes
18:55:43yorickthe time isn't increasing anymore
18:55:51yorickthis only happens "inside" the track length
18:55:59yoricknot when I skip beyond the track length
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18:56:45S_a_i_n_tIf you ripped the track yourself, try it again. If you "acquired" it somehow...not a lot you can do I guess.
18:56:50yorickok...it also happens without id3 tags
18:56:59toffe82stripwax__: what about theora on some target ?
18:57:21yorickexcept for skipping returns it to 0
18:57:27yorick(the track, not the time)
18:57:42S_a_i_n_tIt does seem to me to be a problem with the track itself.
18:57:54yorickbut not in vlc or totem
18:57:55yorickor OF
18:58:13S_a_i_n_t*shrugs*
18:58:33pixelmayorick: could you post the track somewhere? Maybe it's difficult because of license though...
18:58:45pixelmawhich OS are you on?
18:59:03stripwax__toffe82 - that would indeed be quite interesting, assuming it would have definite advantages over the mpeg video player. i actually don't know a lot aboute theora.
18:59:06Luca_SVLC can show if some frames are damaged, did you check that?
18:59:26yorickpixelma: ubuntu
18:59:28yorickLuca_S: how?
18:59:55Luca_SCtrl+J while playing
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19:00:21Luca_S(hope they don't localize keyboard shortcuts)
19:00:33yorickdoesn't show anything strange
19:00:37yorickjust codec information
19:00:54toffe82stripwax__: it come become intersting with a lot of video available in this format in the future and the support of Google for the mobile device : http://www.osnews.com/story/23135/Google_Puts_Weight_Behind_Theora_on_Mobile
19:01:13Luca_Sin the statistics
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19:01:25Luca_Scheck the Statistics tab
19:01:37Luca_Sthere's a Damaged entry, or something like that
19:01:55stripwax__and it definitely doesn't contain any unsupported tags or anything like that?
19:01:56yorickRead Media 249 kB
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19:02:17yorickInput Bitspeed 259 kb/s Demuxed 246 kB stream bitspeed 255 kb/s damaged 0 interruptions 0
19:02:32yorickdecoded blocks 318
19:02:35yorickplayed buffers 318
19:02:58Luca_Sthis is after playing the entire file?
19:03:03yorickno
19:03:30yorickI'll do that
19:03:35stripwax__toffe82 - that news article is more interesting than the video codec :-)
19:04:30linuxstbyorick: "madplay" could help. Do "madplay -v -o null: file.mp3"
19:05:22*yorick goes installing madplay
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19:05:37yorickafter I figured out how to get my screen back to positive
19:05:58yorickah...meta-m
19:07:05yorickLuca_S: lost buffers: 3
19:07:13yorickthat's all that changed
19:08:28Luca_Sthat shouldn't be a problem - are you sure you stripped all tags from the file?
19:08:44yorickyes
19:08:56yorickLuca_S: unknown output format type null?
19:09:29yorickeh linuxstb
19:09:32Luca_SI've no other ideas left sorry :( that error is with madplay? I don't know anything abount it, sorry again
19:11:51yoricklinuxstb: http://pastebin.com/maFxNxi4
19:13:31linuxstbThat would seem to show your file has a couple of ID3-like header frames, then a perfect file. Did you run it through vbrfix?
19:14:10yorickwill do
19:15:24linuxstbpixelma suggested that a while ago...
19:16:23yorickit seems to be working now :P
19:16:24yorick:)
19:16:25yorickthanks :)
19:16:39*yorick gone
19:19:56pixelmacomparing to vlc or totem is not completely fair. For PC players which don't run on such limited devices it is far more easy to add fallbacks etc. for slightly broken or out-of-specs files
19:22:24S_a_i_n_tlistening to pixelma could've saved him an hors or so's grief...
19:22:30S_a_i_n_t*hour
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20:33:41The-CompilerHi
20:33:55The-Compilerhow can I see if a Sansa Fuze is a v1 or a v2?
20:36:09gevaertsthe only reliable way is to look at the firmware version
20:38:18The-CompilerV01.01.11F is v1 I guess? :D
20:39:15gevaertsit is, yes
20:40:32The-Compilerhmm, so I can get a (a bit scratched) v1 Sansa Fuze for around 30$
20:40:35The-Compilerguess I won't say no.
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20:44:46The-Compileranewuser: you aren't the same anewuser I know from Rizon, are you?
20:45:35anewuserbotb maybe
20:47:54The-Compilerah, yeah, botb, sorry
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20:51:05funmanranma: should the c200v2 be moved to unstable category?
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21:05:19fmlHello. I just set up a cygwin development environment and get the following error when building the sim for h120: make: *** No rule to make target `/cygdrive/d/work/rb/src/rockbox/build_h120_sim/../src/m_fixed.h', needed by `/cygdrive/d/work/rb/src/rockbox/build_h120_sim/apps/plugins/pdbox/PDa/intern/biquad~.o'. Stop. What is the reason? A sim for e200 builds fine.
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21:06:14gevaertsfml: e200 doesn't have pdbox, so that's probably related
21:06:28gevaertsat least, that's why the e200 sim builds
21:07:49fmlgevaerts: aha! Then I think it has something to do with the older version of gcc. I also got some warnings about ... dont't remember ... something with debugging
21:08:46funmanis the global_settings struct modified directly when changing a setting in the menu ?
21:09:59gevaertsfml: which gcc version is that?
21:10:07funmanabout Clipv2: I just saw 2 crashes in a row at the end of set_cpu_frequency() function, on the bx lr instruction exactly
21:10:22funmanCrashes with Undefined instruction
21:11:20fmlgevaerts: output from configure: Using gcc 3.4.4 (304)
21:14:57funmanFlynDice: ping
21:16:06pixelmafml: I use gcc 3.4.4 here too, currently trying to build an M3 sim
21:16:41pixelmaI don't know if that one has pdbox but I could try an H100 next. It'll take a while though
21:16:59pixelmait probably doesn't
21:17:17gevaertsonly h100 and h300 have pdbox
21:17:59gevaertsthe h100 sim with gcc 3.4.6 on linux builds fine
21:19:17pixelmafml: is this a new cygwin (v. 1.7 I believe)?
21:21:46funmanis someone using the mrobe500? TargetStatus is all green for this model except for rbutil support, and looking at the wiki page all drivers but "remote button" are green, and >= 90% (not detailing what's left in the missing 10%)
21:22:16anewuserThe-Compiler: no worries you n00b! XD
21:22:53pixelmafunman: kkurbjun is the main developer and I think JdGordon had one too once
21:23:20FlynDicefunman: pong
21:23:43gevaertsfunman: the main issue with that one I think is that you need to install a modified OF first
21:23:48funmanFlynDice: I notice a difference between arm922tdmi and arm926ejs about c7 cache operations register
21:24:22funmangevaerts: i'm just looking at ports which use an arm926ejs / and mmu-arm.S and the mrobe500 looked like the most stable (others are creative zvm, mini2440, and the cowond2)
21:25:02funmanFlynDice: the MVA (virtual address) format is the same, but the indexed format used by invalidate_dcache / clean_dcache / cpucache_flush isn't
21:27:28funmanFlynDice: did you look at this modified format already ?
21:27:35FlynDicefunman: If we used the test-clean functions that would make that problem irrelevant I would think. What do you think?
21:28:51FlynDicefunman: No I have not looked at that at all. I did find those test-clean functions in the OF disassembly though.
21:30:23fmlpixelma: this is the newst cygwin, just downloaded. How can I tell the version?
21:30:27funmanhm yes, use the test-clean loop mentioned in the datasheet and then invalidate the whole cache
21:31:15funmanTorne might know which CPUs use this test&clean operations
21:31:19ThomasAHfunman, FlynDice: does the text viewer crash for you on the clip+, too?
21:31:47ThomasAH(e.g. when viewing the rockbox info file)
21:32:03funmanyes
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21:33:03FlynDiceThomasAH: I haven't really tried the text viewer, I know album art doesn't work now though. I've got debugg code in place looking at SD writes that prevents normal ops right now...
21:33:08ThomasAHfunman: it did work some days ago
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21:34:06funmanah no there is a test,clean and invalidate
21:34:37ThomasAHFlynDice: so "undefined instruction" is expected?
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21:35:22The-Compilerf
21:35:22The-Compiler.
21:35:54FlynDicefunman: See FS #11106 for test& clean funcs
21:35:55fmlpixelma: yes, cygwin 1.7.4
21:36:01The-Compiler~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~/sb end
21:36:14The-Compilerwhaaaaah
21:36:14The-Compilerdamn lag, sorry
21:36:22bluebrotherThe-Compiler: you ok?
21:36:39The-Compilerusing irc over a mobile connection + ssh, and I lagged, sorry
21:36:51FlynDiceThomasAH: I'm really not sure I haven't looked at it at all...
21:38:01ThomasAHFlynDice: ah, ok ... it's not that urgent for me anyway ... and some other crashes are gone, e.g. when listening to .spx files :)
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21:38:59pixelmafml: my cygwin install is way older so maybe testing doesn't tell much. I think amiconn experimented a bit with 1.7 but I believe he isn't at the keyboard currently
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21:39:17pixelmaI can try now regardless
21:39:29funmanFlynDice: they should replace invalidate_dcache/invalidate_idcache/clean_dcache ?
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21:40:07fmlpixelma: please do if it wouldn't kill your computer
21:40:41wodzpixelma: ping
21:41:08pixelmapong
21:41:32wodzI saw in log You had some problems with patched Ondio
21:41:38funmanbacklight_use_settings() still set the timeout to 0
21:42:22FlynDicefunman: Yes , I believe so. I added them to mmu-arm.S in that patch so you can use them instead of the others.
21:43:00funmantesting on Clipv2 and +
21:43:11pixelmawodz: I'm not sure if it was because of the patch. Yesterday in the evening I formatted it again and installed a patched build again and I wasn't able to reproduce afterwards
21:43:41pixelmabut I got some problems compiling an Iaudio M3 patch with this build
21:43:48pixelmaerr... patch
21:43:49CIA-5New commit by 03alle (r25570): Use better names for hotkey related constants; add somecomments (FS #11191)
21:44:28pixelmawodz: ok... I'll try again: an Iaudio sim with this patch
21:45:12wodzpixelma: hmm let me see
21:45:16FlynDicefunman: I replaced the clean-dcache in pcm-as3525.c to test and it worked fine for me with clip+
21:45:49funmanvarious parts of rockbox use cpucache_flush() though
21:46:15FlynDicefunman: I think that's the only place we're using cache-coherency right now
21:46:31funmanhttp://pastebin.org/144705
21:46:46bluebrotherhas the download location of the irc logs changed?
21:47:11FlynDicefunman: Oh yes, I need to expand my horizons, I am completely as3525v1/v2- centric ;-)
21:47:14funmanplugins/codecs must flush the icache because we use self-modifying code (code loaded in the buffers)
21:47:30*funman slaps FlynDice with an as3525v3
21:48:00funmanbluebrother: no? http://www.rockbox.org/irc
21:48:50bluebrotherfunman: ah, figured it. I managed to retrieve the wrong url when I last improved my download script
21:48:57*bluebrother should completely rework that
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21:49:21funmanoops another undefined instruction at the end of set_cpu_frequency(), there's definitely something wrong here
21:52:23funmanTorne: you had pasted a link to a symbian header with various defines for capabilities of different ARM cpus, can you point me to it again please?
21:52:58funmanFlynDice: that might explain the random crashes on plugin entry / codec buffering
21:53:09wodzpixelma: whats wrong with Iaudio M3 sim?
21:54:40wodzpixelma, I just builded it cleanly
21:55:13wodzaa wait not cleanly
21:56:41FlynDicefunman: Now that you mention it, didn't saratoga solve a similar problem with the v1's in a similar way?
21:56:55funmani can't remember
21:57:05FlynDiceI'll go back and look
21:57:20funmanperhaps you think of codec buffering in buffering.c, on targets with 2MB of memory ?
21:58:08FlynDiceno, it was before that we were getting random crashes, your self-modifying code comment is what made me think of it
21:59:14pixelmafml: I get the same error on my cygwin when building an h100 sim, I almost missed it though
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22:00:01pixelmathe warnings before are old though and don't hurt
22:00:07fmlpixelma: weird! But it's good that it's reproducible
22:00:17CIA-5New commit by 03funman (r25571): as3525v2: set_cpu_frequency() ...
22:00:37pixelmawodz: something about redifining things (and some MAS.xyz files which made me wonder too)
22:00:47pixelmaredefining
22:01:09funmanFlynDice: r21647 (e6d5e57fb052120e3092e6b01587eb94faa32c90 in my git tree)
22:01:18wodzpixelma: Yes now I see it. I must have overlook this :-/
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22:05:48funmanFlynDice: it's called "__armv5tej_mmu_cache_flush" in linux 2.6.31.5 (arch/arm/boot/compressed/head.S)
22:06:54funmanon wikipedia I only see armv5TE, only the J bit is optional
22:07:45FlynDicefunman: does it help?
22:08:11funmanwell we could just use ARCH_ARM (4 or 5) to discriminate the 2 implementations, armv6 has its own file
22:10:21wodzpixelma: besides warning when compiling sim have You noticed any other problems with patch?
22:11:40FlynDicelunchtime, back in 30
22:11:41CIA-5New commit by 03alle (r25572): Use a special constant so that we don't have to care about the actual line numbers
22:13:49funmanTorne: can you comment on FS #11106 ? (about armv5)
22:16:25Blue_DudeHey alle, you on?
22:17:58pixelmacalled fml in IRC
22:18:10Blue_Dudek
22:18:15Blue_Dudefml: you on?
22:18:29fmlBlue_Dude: yes
22:18:32*Blue_Dude is irritated at simplelist weirdness.
22:18:41wodzpixelma?
22:18:52fmlBlue_Dude: what do you mean?
22:18:57Blue_DudeHow did you get simplelist to work? I kept getting repeated lines.
22:19:24Blue_DudeThat's where the hard line numbers came from. Finillay hit on something that worked. Until you also made it work the right way.
22:19:47fmlBlue_Dude: have you seen my note about lang_id in the hotkey assignments?
22:20:01Blue_DudeUm... maybe?
22:20:14pixelmawodz: other than the mentioned problem with my Ondio which I'm not sure where it came from - no. I'd like to test a bit longer and maybe you can get someone who knows the code better to review the patch (I'd think amiconn would be interested)
22:20:24Blue_Dudefml: I did get rid of the extra variables.
22:21:12wodzpixelma: good to know I didn't broken something obvious
22:21:22wodzs/broken/broke/
22:21:42pixelmabreak :)
22:21:48wodzyeh
22:22:00fmlBlue_Dude: you have to set the number of lines to 0 and then start to add them. You set the number to 2.
22:22:09wodzgramma is not my strong point
22:22:37Blue_Dudefml: re simplelist, IIRC I added the number of lines last, which made it behave. And I never went back to do it "right". That was a frustrating afternoon.
22:23:30Blue_Dudefml: I like your version better. I think that's how it was supposed to work.
22:23:38fmlBlue_Dude: I mean the lang_id field in the hotkey_assignment struct. It can be inferred from the menu
22:24:35Blue_Dudefml: No, didn't see that note.
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22:25:25CIA-5New commit by 03alle (r25573): Reset the number of lines to 0 when initializing the simple list
22:25:45funmanit would be nice to enable backlight in system-arm.c::UIE() but I don't know if all the targets can enable the backlight with interrupts disabled
22:26:08fmlBlue_Dude: look in the irc log. Thursday, I think.
22:26:53fmlBlue_Dude: I like r25573 even better. Just init the struct and then add the lines. No need to worry about the line numbers.
22:27:39Blue_Dudefml: Me too.
22:28:27fmlBlue_Dude: what do you think about lang_id? Why not take it from the menu pointed to by menu_addr?
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22:30:08Blue_Dudefml: That's what I did originally, and stored it in the global variable. But if you go back to retrieve it for display in the simplelist, the menu pointer isn't going to help you.
22:31:00wodzwhy the hell svn diff produces patches which do not cleanly remove files?
22:31:03CIA-5New commit by 03alle (r25574): Fix typos in comments
22:32:07fmlBlue_Dude: why not? Aren't those menu structs global?
22:32:27fmlBlue_Dude: what did you store in a global variable?
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22:32:42Blue_Dudefml: They are, but they keyed from the actual selected menu item. Once you leave the menu, the selection changes.
22:32:45kifohello
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22:33:21Blue_Dudefml: Stored the associated lang_id.
22:33:24kifoI looked through the site/googled so sorry if this is somewhere, I don't have too much time to look much further;
22:33:25pixelmawodz: did you remove the files with svn or just deleted them in your tree?
22:33:38wodzI tried both
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22:34:16kifoI have a sansa clp+, and rockbox currently does not have write priv's on this player, ive got the theme how i wanted it in a text editor, however im having trouble making it the default theme loaded on startup, even placing it as rockbox_default.cfg
22:34:20kifoanything im missing?
22:34:22wodzsvn diff mangles $Id line which prevent from clean patching
22:34:33Blue_Dudefml: Consider this though: the extra info only costs 4 bytes per entry and lookup is fast and simple. Not necessarily so if you have to search on the function pointer for instance.
22:34:37kifoi can just change the theme each time i start up rockbox but thats a pain
22:34:58Lloreankifo: Rockbox_default isn't really the default theme
22:35:04pixelmakifo: edit the config.cfg on your player
22:35:08kifoi thought it was cabbiev2
22:35:18kifoat least it seemed to be
22:35:23LloreanYou didn't mention cabbiev2
22:35:37pixelmahmm... if there is no write support that file possibly doesn't exist
22:35:40kifowell i have cabbiev2 in as cabbiev2 and as rockbox_default
22:35:51kifopixelma: it doesnt but i can create it, i just now googled that
22:35:59*kifo missed the obvious
22:36:03kifo*d'oh*
22:36:31kifowhich theme does rockbox usually pick as default if no config.cfg is specified
22:36:50kifoi was just going to delete all of the other themes but that seems a little blunt
22:37:06pixelmakifo: I'd probably use a simulator, set everything to my likes and then move the sim's config.cfg to my player - should work
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22:37:44kifooh so i can just copy the themes cfg to .rockbox/config.cfg
22:38:05wodzsorry for stupid question but how to create patch with svn diff that removes file?
22:38:13kifoi shoulda noticed a few things on the config.cfg wiki page sorry
22:38:26bluebrotherwodz: svn rm the file first, then svn diff
22:39:24kifobtw congrats on getting rockbox on the clip+ into unstable so quickly
22:39:28kifojust to the general community
22:39:37kifoif i recall correctly a few months ago it wasnt even booting
22:40:16wodzbluebrother: this do not change anything
22:40:18kifowish i were more tech-saavy i coulda gotten some help in to get it done sooner
22:40:46bluebrotherwodz: how are you creating the patch?
22:41:05Blue_DudeAll: I'm still sitting on the bookmark patch. Any issues with committing it soon?
22:41:26kifoyeeha copying the cabbiev2.cfg to .rockbox/config.cfg worked great!
22:41:49kifocant believe i missed that ha
22:42:05wodzbluebrother: 1) get fresh svn copy 2) svn rm file 3) svn diff >my.patch
22:42:15bluebrotherwodz: it works for me if I "svn rm file; svn diff ."
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22:42:36fmlBlue_Dude: you shouldn't need to look up. Just use x->menu_addr->lang-id instead of x->lang_id
22:42:37bluebrotherthat's weird.
22:43:10wodzI must miss something obvious
22:44:46Blue_Dudefml: Working with the menu structs gave me a headache. If there's a way to grab the lang_id cleanly that would be helpful.
22:45:35funmanwodz: check with 'svn st' to see if it's deleted (D)
22:46:17Blue_Dudefml: In other words, she's all yours. :)
22:46:59wodzfunman: Yes it is
22:48:32Blue_Dude*Nobody* has any more opinions on bookmarks? I'm shocked!
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22:50:04*bluebrother already stated his opinion on the ml
22:51:14*Blue_Dude doesn't recall any concerns that weren't addressed.
22:51:45Blue_DudeI changed it back so that current bookmarks are completely unaffected. Only new ones change pitch and speed.
22:52:48funmanFlynDice: clipv2 still running with fs#11106 (with cpufreq forced to max though), while it would crash in 15 minutes
22:53:04funmanclip+ crashed 2 times already (cpufreq left free)
22:53:19Blue_Dudebluebrother: Wasn't that your main concern?
22:55:03kifofunman: hwat you think of the clip+ rockbox
22:55:04bluebrotherBlue_Dude: yes
22:55:05kifothusfar
22:55:30kifoi just noticed that it was semi functional last night
22:55:36kifosorta forgot to check for a while
22:55:46wodzbluebrother: You said it works for You. Have You examined 'rockbox' header of the patch created by svn diff? It has empty $Id line
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22:55:59wodzthis prevent cleanly apply patch
22:56:19bluebrotherempty $Id$ line? Empty in what sense?
22:56:42bluebrothersvn diff shouldn't diff that line as you don't change it.
22:57:20wodzhttp://pastebin.com/CK5tNFCU
22:57:52bluebrotherwodz: what's the problem with that?
22:57:53wodzthis is what I get if I svn rm firmware/drivers/mas.c ; svn diff
22:58:06fmlBlue_Dude: I don't use bookmarks. But I didn't like the name TIMESTR (wrote in in the FS task)
22:58:10wodzline 13
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22:58:32bluebrotherwodz: check if the svn:keywords property is set on that file
22:58:58Blue_Dudefml: I left a comment there. I changed it to BM_SPEED, along with some other code readability changes.
22:58:58alex_1hi all, is c250 sansa supposed to play Real Audio G2 (Cook) files with 3.5.1? I get codec failure... thanks.
22:59:01bluebrotheralso, svn doesn't store the expanded string
22:59:32bluebrotheralex_1: codec failure means that you haven't installed Rockbox properly
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23:00:04fmlBlue_Dude: if noone spokeup then just commit it if you feel it's clean.
23:01:05alex_1ok. it played other files without problems...
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23:02:22wodzbluebrother: so in general You say thats the way svn diff works?
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23:02:41bluebrotherwodz: yes
23:02:54wodzthats braindead
23:03:32wodzor is there svn patch or something which handles this?
23:04:31bluebrothernone that I know of.
23:05:02bluebrotherhowever, keywords is broken by itself anyway. There's a reason DVCS usually dislike (or don't support at all) them
23:05:18wodzso svn diff produces diff file which is guarantead to not apply cleanly...
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23:06:55Blue_Dudefml: I think I will. Just wanted a last minute poll in case there were problems.
23:08:37*bluebrother wouldn't mind getting lost of keywords
23:09:41fmlBlue_Dude: if the ML didn't bring any feedback then I think it's of no use to wait any longer. Be prepared however that people will speak after the commit. This works like this here: as long as it's not committed nobody notices it :-)
23:10:15Blue_Dude:)
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23:10:50bluebrotherin contrast to other occasions there _was_ a bit of discussion on the ml :)
23:10:51*pixelma frowns
23:11:21CIA-5New commit by 03alle (r25575): Use the existing type instead of defining an ad hoc one
23:12:29Blue_Dudebluebrother: ...which resulted in a better patch.
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23:14:00funmanhm not sure if we're there yet, a whole album played fine on the clipv2 but the clip+ crashes in 3 minutes (cpufreq forced to maximum)
23:17:11CIA-5New commit by 03Blue_Dude (r25576): New bookmarks contain pitch and speed info. Old bookmarks still work, behavior unchanged.
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23:22:40fmlWhat does ID2P(LANG_xxx) do? Does it return the "expanded" value of LANG_xxx?
23:27:09pixelmapitch is swcodec only
23:27:15Blue_Dudefml: returns a virtual pointer to the lang_id. Whatever that is. Menus seem to like it.
23:28:10pixelmaare bookmarks interchangeable between targets, assuming same file structure?
23:28:24fmlBlue_Dude: i.e. ID (int) as a pointer? And how do I get the real string? With str(...)?
23:28:34Blue_Dudepixelma: True, but the pitch set should always work even if it's ignored... Dad blam it, no it doesnt.
23:28:43Blue_DudeOK, fixing it.
23:29:09Blue_Dudepixelma: no, not really. They are file tree or playlist dependent.
23:29:52Blue_Dudepixelma: I missed the last bit. Yes, they are interchangeable, but I'm not sure why you'd want to.
23:33:06fmlWhere is the macro (or function?) "str" defined? I can't find it.
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23:36:23Blue_Dudefml: not in settings.h?
23:37:02Blue_Dudefml: The real string is at str(LANG_ID)
23:37:11Blue_DudeBut I don't remember where the function is.
23:37:24fmlBlue_Dude: it's used in settings.h:216, but where is it defined?
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23:41:03CIA-5New commit by 03Blue_Dude (r25577): Fix bookmarks for hwcodec targets
23:44:28Blue_Dudeapps/bookmark.c:971: warning: dereferencing type-punned pointer will break strict-aliasing rules
23:44:32Blue_Dude???
23:44:42Blue_DudeDoesn't like the cast I guess.
23:44:56Blue_DudeBut it doesn't happen on all targets.
23:47:37Blue_DudeWhat's up with that?
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23:49:22funmanwhy casting int to long ?
23:50:01funmanatoi() returns int anyway
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23:52:00Blue_Dudefunman: passing a pointer to a long. Could pass a pointer to an int, but would still have to cast to use the same function. I'll probably have to duplicate the function to avoid the warn.
23:53:27*pixelma wonders why the track info screen vanishes with "backlight off" in an M3 sim
23:53:29funmanwhere do you pass a pointer to a long ?
23:53:42pixelmaand you're back in the WPS
23:53:58CIA-5New commit by 03Blue_Dude (r25578): Fix yellow: pointer cast
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23:54:07funmanonly resume_offset is long, not sure why it's not an int
23:54:39funmanis sizeof(int) != sizeof(long) on SH ?
23:55:05funmanah i missed resume time
23:55:20Blue_Dudefunman: resume_offset is in different places: in int, a long, an unsigned long, a uint32_t, a size_t, and that's those I can remember.
23:55:36Blue_DudeI tried to fix all that but it was a mess.
23:55:42funmanoh ok :(
23:55:44Blue_DudeSo I punted.
23:56:05fmlHrmmm... Can anybody tell me how str(...) is used and where it's defined?
23:56:22Blue_DudeMost of those are typedef'ed the same but that's probably not for all targets.
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23:57:37funman./gdb/arm-stub.c:#define str(s) #s
23:57:38funman./gdb/arm-stub.c:#define str(s) #s
23:58:14Blue_DudeWell, it's fixed but it's not pretty.
23:58:53Blue_Dudestr is in \build\lang\lang.h
23:58:58Blue_Dudefml: \build\lang\lang.h

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