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#rockbox log for 2010-05-04

00:01:23funmanperhaps it means gcc needs to be rebuilt with specific options for this cpu ?
00:03:13amiconnvfp and (classic) fpu are not the same
00:03:34funmanamiconn: do you have an idea about this ?
00:04:13amiconnAnd afaik no recent-ish arm core actually has a classic fpu
00:04:15funmanstrings on cc1 shows both arm1176jz-s and arm1176jzf-s
00:04:32funmanamiconn: the problem here is why are we trying to link with a FPU-enabled libgcc
00:04:47amiconnUsing the wrong multilibs?
00:05:00funmanhow does one select multilib if not by gcc -mcpu=X ?
00:06:17funmanhttp://www.rockbox.org/gcc/rockbox-multilibs-arm-elf-gcc-4.0.3_3.diff has arm1176jz-s in the list but i don't see it in prefix/arm-elf/gcc/arm-elf/4.0.3
00:06:30funmanwas this patch updated sometime ago ?
00:07:07funman(parent directory is 403)
00:08:28funmanloveless: when did you install arm compiler through rockboxdev.sh ?
00:08:47linuxstbfunman: "Last-Modified: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 20:35:52 GMT"
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00:10:46lovelessfunman: August, 6th
00:10:58funmanperhaps worth a rebuild, i've no idea how this stuff works and if the patch got updated since
00:11:06amiconnWhich target has arm1176jz-s?
00:11:57funmansansa view
00:13:43amiconnOh, PP6100 is that much more powerful than PP50xx?
00:14:02funmanisn't the sansa view using wifi, linux ?
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00:15:59CIA-5New commit by 03funman (r25799): as3525v2: Use CD Interrupt vs. CD polling in send_cmd() ...
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00:22:02kugelfunman: yay! o/
00:22:45funman[X] DONE
00:22:52kugelfreq scaling is rather stable as well now? I think we can go unstable soonish then
00:22:59funman'rather' yes
00:24:03funmanrecording looks ok too
00:25:37*kugel tries fancy write support
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00:29:17DA-LaptopHello. While this question is a bit irrelevant as to the purpose of this channel, I failed to find an answer elsewhere and am hoping someone here can provide me with one: What kind of input voltage (and other data, if you have it) does the Cowon D2 take when charging?
00:29:32DA-LaptopI looked at Cowon's website, manuals, etc. Nowhere does it say.
00:29:39dfktfunman -
00:29:44dfktcongrats :)
00:29:44DA-LaptopCan't find the packaging for mine.
00:29:54funmandfkt: eh don't forget FlynDice
00:30:02dfktFlynDice - congrats :D
00:30:17funmanhis FS# patch was needed for stable write
00:30:52funmannext things: check battery charging/monitoring for all devices
00:30:58funmanUSB detection for fuzev2/clip+
00:31:06funmanUSB driver would be cool..
00:31:17funmanoh and Fuzev2 FM
00:31:18dfktvery much so.. the stock firmware's refresh takes ages
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00:31:55funmanpamaury started looking at it but i think he's quite busy
00:33:06funmandfkt: did you charge with rockbox already?
00:33:17dfkton the clip+? no
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00:33:32dfktgonna get the new build now
00:34:27funmani'll edit my post and ask for real battery benches
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00:35:47kugelyea, FM would be awesome
00:36:02kugelso the fuzev2 can eventualyl replace my v1 ;)
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00:37:34DA-LaptopAnyone?
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00:40:10*dfkt listens to a write-enabled clip+ on insanely stupid and fancy japan-only jvc fx700 iems... pure bliss/
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00:45:12Battousaifunman: thank you very much. you've made my fuzev2 the best $30 player on the market :)
00:45:19arlaneenalraSo if I read this right, 25799 makes write work on as3525s?
00:49:21arlaneenalrarather, the fuzev2 and friends
00:50:14funmanarlaneenalra: fuzev2, clipv2, clip+
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00:50:57arlaneenalraYEAH! That actually makes the player useful :)
00:51:24*dfkt scrobbled from clip+ ... first!
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00:53:53kugelI'm not entirely happy with the wheel behavior of the fuze still
00:53:59kugelfuzev2
00:55:21funmantoo fast?
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00:55:54kugelyes and no
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00:58:08kugeltoo erratic
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01:02:54arlaneenalrakugel: I would agree with you on that one. It decides to skip several lines seemingly at random
01:04:01kugelit appears you can skip thousand lines with a single wipe
01:05:48kugelfunman: I think we should do asynchrounus lcd updates
01:06:46kugelor at least put a yield when waiting for the dbop fifo
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01:07:16funmanwhy?
01:07:44kugelfuzev2 needs boosting sometimes in the debug menu
01:07:52kugel60fps is not enough to be neglible
01:07:58funman'needs' ?
01:08:33kugelit boosts sometimes to refill the pcm buffer
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01:09:26funmancan't test now i'm running battery_bench
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01:10:03saratogaFWIW with the first write support patch, I had two lock ups, one while changing tracks, the other while playing (probably during a rebuffer)
01:10:08saratogathey may be fixed by now though
01:11:08kugelspeaking of lock ups. fuzev2 is very unstable at the moment
01:11:09funmansaratoga: panics?
01:11:20kugelit often freezes on disk accesses
01:11:27kugelfuzev1*
01:12:23Kohlrabifunman: is there a version of mkamsboot which supports Clip+ firmware 1.02.13?
01:13:09funmanKohlrabi: you must build it from svn
01:13:15Kohlrabiok
01:13:25saratogafunman: no, one just hung at the loading splash screen (but kept playing in spite of being unresponsive) and the other froze completely with sound and screen off
01:13:27saratogano panics
01:13:59funmani blame set_cpu_frequency() then, when testing write support i had only panics
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01:16:13saratogaah ok
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01:41:17kugelfunman: this works OK, http://pastie.org/944432, not much better in the debug menu though
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01:44:35kugeloh, just experienced a lock up, just after rebuffering finished
01:48:14*kugel hopes someone will have a look at his creat/open patch soon
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01:55:23funmankugel: does fps change with that ?
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01:56:43Ipsihey guys. Anyone know if fuze v2 is usable yet. I'm reading the thread, and it just got write support. But i still don't know whether It's usable or getting there.
01:57:16saratogacheck the front page
01:58:26Ipsiseems like i could get a more human answer for this particular case. If someone tried it that is.
01:58:37Ipsimore human than what the fron page says
01:58:47Ipsiwhich is kinda generic
01:59:26funmanfront page is always right, trust it
01:59:31saratogawell it answers what you asked :)
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01:59:49funman'much remains before they are usable:' ... 'fuzev2'
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02:00:06Ipsioh i was reading the main rockbox page
02:00:07Ipsi:$
02:00:18funmanme too, http://www.rockbox.org/ -> Unusable ports
02:01:07Ipsioh, sorry. I didn't see it there
02:01:19IpsiI read the Fuze v1 (not v2)
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02:03:22kugelfunman: shouldn't. let me check
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02:05:22kugelit should just let other threads run during updates
02:06:30kugelno, fps is unaffected
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02:14:40lovelessfigured out most of the view's keys and the wheel. huzzah for my_blinkenbyte(unsigned char x)! :D
02:16:49kugelI'm surprised that relatively little changes enabled write support
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02:17:10kugelloveless: great! now go for the lcd :)
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02:21:46belakIs it possible to use rockbox on a sansa fuze with an fm transmitter?
02:22:18lovelesskugel: you guys all seem to want the same thing. ;) i think I'll first pick up some more speed (must still deal with mmu, cache control, interrups and such) before I'm finally reday to hit the LCD wall.
02:22:21saratogathrough the headphone jack yeah, probably not through the dock connector
02:22:42belakSO, there's no way to get it to work with the dock?
02:22:57saratogasure theres a way, you just get to figure it out yourself
02:23:08belakI have a griffin itrip and I don't want to boot into te old firmware just for this
02:23:15saratogai wouldn't worry too much about the mmu, whatever mode its in right now is good enough to run code, so its probably good enough for the bootloader
02:23:16belakNo gapless in the old firmware
02:23:38saratogaon the fuzev1 port we actually ran withou the MMU and cache in the main build for a while
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02:24:30funmanloveless: lcd makes it easier to debug than a led
02:25:14funmanbelak: how much does this transmitter cost?
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02:25:39belakAround $40, I think
02:26:15funmansend me one and i'll see if i can make it work
02:26:30belakMeh
02:26:30lovelessfunman: sure, but reversing the lcd code is quite a task seemingly greater embedded hackers have already given up on.
02:26:48saratogahas anyone worked on it?
02:27:38lovelessanyway, calling it a day. g'night everyone!
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02:28:13belakwhat is the car adapter mode?
02:28:57saratogacheck the manual, but it probably won't work on the fuze
02:29:01saratogadue to how it powers up
02:29:21belakOh
02:29:24belakOk
02:29:28funmanloveless: lcd is pretty easy in fact: you need to find lcd_init(), lcd_write_register(), lcd_write_data()
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02:29:50belakSeems like whenever I plug in my cord it pops out to the old firmware
02:30:08saratoganot seems like, thats how it works
02:30:11belakI'd be better off getting a new transmitter that works in the headphone jack, it looks like
02:30:14belakWhy?
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02:30:50saratogaso that you can use the OF for USB
02:31:15belakOF = old firmware ?
02:31:23saratogaoriginal firmware
02:31:28belakAh
02:31:30belakClose
02:31:43belakWhat's the best player for rockbox to run on?
02:32:40saratogaToshiba Gigabeat X
02:33:00belakWhy is that?
02:34:03saratogabecause its the hardest player to buy
02:34:20belakAh
02:34:26funmankugel: in fact response is needed for write/read commands, but it seems to work on amsv1
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02:37:28RandomInsanoGood news everyone! Code now runs on the TCC8200. The devilishly inverted meaning behind the TCCBOOT define was to blame
02:38:20belaksaratoga: can the fuze be plugged in and charging but still playing music?
02:38:33saratogasure
02:38:41saratogacheck the manual, this stuff is all in there
02:39:07belakI didn't know that was there
02:39:10belakSorry
02:39:48Adubbhey funman, not sure if anyone has said anything yet. With the new build my clip+ will not boot up past the splashscreen with a microsd card incerted, its fine without however.
02:40:24belakSo, something like this http://www.amazon.com/Griffin-Universal-Transmitter-Charger-Players/dp/B000JV9NL2/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1272933429&sr=1-3 would be perfect
02:40:28belakThanks
02:41:15funmanAdubb: yes there is some problems with µSD check the forum thread if you can help
02:41:34Adubbwill do
02:43:41funmanjust read last kugel's msg on page 109
02:44:15S_a_i_n_tbelak: IIUC, there is technically no gaples playback support in Rockbox either...so you're not gaining anything over the OF in that respect.
02:44:30S_a_i_n_tBut, in many other respects...yes, you gain a lot. ;)
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02:44:58saratogaS_a_i_n_tL huh?
02:45:02saratogaS_a_i_n_t:
02:45:21belaksaratoga: well, it definitely works and the OF doesn't
02:45:51belakSorry
02:45:59belakmeant S_a_i_n_t
02:46:04S_a_i_n_tDoesn't RB not do gapless playback? Well, you *can* get it to work, but only with crossfade...well, in my experience anyway.
02:46:28S_a_i_n_tIf there's a better way, I'd like to hear it.
02:46:46belakIt worked by default when I installed it
02:47:17mc2739S_a_i_n_t: gapless playback is the main reason I started using Rockbox
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02:47:48funmanhum yes rockbox plays gapless by default
02:48:04funmanunless you encoded your songs with gaps in them
02:48:07S_a_i_n_tI always get a pause between my tracks...is there anything special you need to do to accomplish gapless? I've been faking it with crossfade.
02:48:32funmanremove the silence at the end of your tracks with audacity or whatever
02:48:43S_a_i_n_tThere isn't any.
02:49:05S_a_i_n_tAnd still, there is a slight pause when changing tracks.
02:49:09mc2739S_a_i_n_t: for mp3, you need to use the Lame encoder
02:49:28belakI use oggs if that makes a difference
02:49:29belak:P
02:49:42S_a_i_n_tAhhh....that may be the reason then. I've just been faking gapless with crossfade.
02:50:00S_a_i_n_tWorks for me :P
02:51:20belakI ordered a transmitter that will work with rockbox.
02:51:22belakYay
02:51:27belakThanks guys
02:53:43saratogaS_a_i_n_t: it would be nice if you could take the time to have some idea what you're talking about before offering advice
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02:55:22S_a_i_n_tHence why I added IIUC, not "this is definitely how it is, and I'm positive of it", it would be nice if you recognised the fact that all people are fallible.
02:56:36saratogai don't see how prefacing it with a disclaimer makes being uninformed any better
02:57:46saratogai only single you out on this point because it seems to be an ongoing area of concern for you
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03:00:22S_a_i_n_tGeeez...let it up ffs. RB *doesn't* do gapless for mp3, so it's not like I was entirely 100% wrong, I fond it very hard to believe that you've never been mistaken about anything before either...it happens, I apologise.
03:00:32S_a_i_n_t*find
03:01:02belakS_a_i_n_t: rockbox does gapless with mp3, just not any mp3. Sounds like it needs to be encoded with lame which is free anyway.
03:07:18saratogai'm not annoyed that you're wrong, I'm annoyed that you think you know the answer when very obviously you have no idea what you're talking about
03:08:22saratogagapless isn't some secret, its actually item #2 on our WhyRockbox page
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03:20:14belakahh
03:20:20belakHow do I exit jackpot...
03:20:22belakWait
03:20:25belakI'll look it up
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03:30:11funmanAdubb: still there?
03:30:39arlaneenalrawhat is the status of FM on the fuze v2?
03:30:56funmanarlaneenalra: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaAMS
03:32:48arlaneenalraI had seen the red no, I was hoping for a little more detail.
03:33:02arlaneenalraThe last item I asked about showed up in svn the next day ;)
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03:38:44funmanbad luck then, all my Sansas are busy benching the battery for the next days :p
03:40:57FlynDicefunman: \O/ \o/ \O/ You da man once again!! I can finally sleep in peace..... Just popping in will look closer later!
03:45:40arlaneenalrafunman: indeed, I didn't notice that was your commit
03:47:20funmanFlynDice: thanks to your patch it worked immediately :))
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03:52:13belakHow can I export a playlist so I can use it in rockbox?
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04:09:39arlaneenalraIs the map listed on http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaAMSHardwareMappings current for the fuzev2?
04:09:47saratogabelak: save as m3u, copy the files leaving the same structure they had when you made the m3u
04:10:01funmanarlaneenalra: yes
04:10:28belakThanks
04:12:16Adubbhey funman yep still here
04:12:54funmanAdubb: yep, can you build your own rockbox?
04:13:13Adubbyep
04:14:13funmandoes http://pastie.org/944578 fix the problems with µSD ?
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04:17:24Adubbno idea what to do with that lol.
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04:18:28saratogaAdubb: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/WorkingWithPatches
04:18:30Adubbi thought you meant can i build with mkamsboot
04:18:41funmanAdubb: ah no i meant compile with gcc
04:19:26saratogamkamsboot doesn't involve rockbox, just the bootloader ;)
04:20:04Adubbah
04:23:10Adubbwish i had some knowledge to help
04:23:41saratogaAdubb: can you read words and follow directions? http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/DevelopmentGuide
04:24:01Adubbdepends how stoned i am lol
04:24:25funmansome people are already looking at µSD on the forum
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04:25:01Adubbhmm thanks for that link saratoga
04:26:15Adubbim going to be formating my laptop soon, ill dual boot so i can start learning that
04:27:21saratogaits probably easier to just use a vm
04:27:45Adubbive been wanting play around with ubuntu anyways
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04:35:45funmandamn clipv2 crashed
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04:36:11funmanand it's teh only one without µSD so i still can't test
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04:38:57*JdGordon1 needs an idea of something to code up in about 40min...
04:39:15funmanJdGordon: FM support on fuzev2 !
04:39:21JdGordon1I'm thinking redo the databse init screen to not use splashes :p
04:39:37funmanprogress bar then?
04:40:05JdGordon1?
04:41:48funmanif you remove the splashes which say 1/9 2/9 etc .. will you still report the progress?
04:46:09JdGordon1not those ones.. the ones that show up when you go into the database screen before it is initialised
04:46:16JdGordon1the "scanning.." ones
04:46:25JdGordon1they suck because the text box isnt constant size
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04:53:01funmansaratoga: weird, in the clipv2 bench time left has strange values
04:53:12funmanmost of the times it's 00:-1 (i assume because current isn't set)
04:53:44funmanand on 3 hours bench (180 entries) there are 3 entries with 15100586:39 left
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04:57:40arlaneenalraAny best guesses on the fm radio sda/scl pins for the fuzev2?
04:58:26funmanarlaneenalra: nope, it's a bit different from other models: there seems to be 2 possibilities for the pins and none of them work
04:59:13arlaneenalrafun :)
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05:00:12arlaneenalraI'm guessing someone has tried B6 and B7
05:01:59funmanno
05:03:29funmanClipv2 full voltage starts at 4.19, not 4.16 like clipv2
05:04:25funmanhttp://pastie.org/944627
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05:07:38kisakhey funman
05:09:08funmanif voltage falling is linear that'd mean 16h45 runtime for clipv2
05:09:16kisakyou just made my day ... today I got a Fuze V2 and here you go and push in write support
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05:39:04arlaneenalraI'm guessing that the FM debug page should show true if the radio is present :(
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05:39:38funmanarlaneenalra: yes, but the first thing you should notice is the 'FM radio' entry in the main menu
05:40:42arlaneenalraI gave c6/7 a shot since they seem to be listed as pins with an i2c interface in the datasheet for the as3525
05:41:30funmanwhere?
05:42:04funmanyou should rather try B0 and A0 or A4 (what i saw in fuzev2 OF), but current code assume both pins are on the same port (A B C or D)
05:42:21arlaneenalrayeah, I noticed that
05:42:46arlaneenalraLet me give that a shot then,
05:42:58arlaneenalraIt's been a while since I've done anything with an embedded chip
05:44:05funmani tried both on my fuze, tried longer delays but no luck
05:44:17funmani think perhaps we need to set some GPIO pin to power the FM chip
05:45:03arlaneenalrayou said all three of those were referenced in the OF?
05:45:15funmanyes one is the scl pin
05:45:23funmanthe other 2 are selected dynamically as the sda pin
05:45:55funmansomething like if(*fm_pin == 0) sda = A0; else sda = A4;
05:48:52arlaneenalrahmm
05:50:10funmancan you read ARM assembly?
05:50:44arlaneenalraI can probably figure it out,
05:51:07funmanif you split a fuzev2 OF with utils/AMS/hacking/amsinfo.c i can point you to the FM i2c code
05:51:22funmanmyself i'm disassembling V02.01.17
05:53:58arlaneenalrahmm
05:54:08arlaneenalraI've got 2.02.26A
05:54:15arlaneenalraLet me see if I can get the other one
05:55:47funmanfirmwares are pretty similar across all the AMS series so i could compare the one i have with 2.02.26 and find the location of fm code
05:56:04arlaneenalrano biggey,
05:56:11arlaneenalrajust downloaded the 2.01.17
05:57:00arlaneenalraWhere am I looking here ?
05:59:00funmanyou must split it in parts with amsinfo
05:59:05arlaneenalradone
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05:59:13arlaneenalraI have quite a few files now :)
05:59:14funmanwhich disassembler do you have ?
05:59:38funmanI use IDA pro, i can load several binary files at different addresses
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06:00:03arlaneenalraright now all I have is the arm_disarm in rockbox
06:00:24funmanhm objdump does a better job (because it can understand thumb code too)
06:00:42topikthanks for the effort on write support for as3525v2 funman/FlynDice. that's a great milestone.
06:01:23funmanarlaneenalra: most of the code is in 'firmware' which you can load at '0'
06:01:37funmanpretty much all the files have mixed arm/thumb so you should disassemble them in both mode
06:02:07funmanarm-elf-objdump -m arm -b binary (−−disassembler-options=force-thumb) "file"
06:02:35funmanthe FM code is in wav_codec , entry point 0x29550
06:03:44funmanhmm −−start-address doesn't work like i want
06:04:11arlaneenalrahmm, I don't have a -m or -b option for arm-elf-objdump . . .
06:04:54funmanman objdump says -b bfdname -m machine
06:05:09funman% arm-elf-objdump -v
06:05:09funmanGNU objdump 2.16.1
06:05:14funmanyou have the rockboxdev.sh version?
06:05:24arlaneenalrayeah, built that yesterday
06:07:29arlaneenalrathis is what I get http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=DF0zVHsi
06:08:08funmanyeah same, but the options are there anyway (just look at man objdump, it's the same options)
06:09:05saratogausually those two stock objdump commands are enough
06:10:03funmanbut it would be nice to specify a base address
06:10:43funmanif you run "arm-elf-objdump -m arm -b binary -D wav_codec\ \ " the function at (0x)1420: is "fm_i2c_send_byte", r0 contains the byte to write
06:11:31arlaneenalramissed the -D option duh!
06:11:52funmanthe function it calls (3 times) is just a (fixed) busy loop, r0 is meant to be the number of loops but it's overwritten by the function which is: "mov r0, #60\n 1: nop\n subs r0, r0, #1 \n bne 1b \n bx lr\n"
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06:39:31arlaneenalra1what's at 0x000287ac?
06:40:56funmanthe 'SDA' setting
06:42:04funmanit is written from the 'firmware' file at 0x9CD6
06:42:24funmanthe value written is GPIOA_PIN4
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07:33:09arlaneenalra1well, GPIOA_PIN4 seems to cause a panic with -2
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07:38:13arlaneenalra1only when I have a uSD card in the player though . . . . :(
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07:47:40topiki only have 1 uSD card but my clip+ starts rockbox fine when it's inserted
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10:30:27funmantopik: got some time to try something for µSD ?
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10:35:57funmankugel: it seems there are now additional problems with µSD (perhaps because of r25799), not only with the delay i think
10:36:15funmanfor me detection was buggy but i had no lockup at boot
10:41:47kugelnot even sleep(1) helps against the microsd problems?
10:42:32funmanaccording to the forums guy no (can't test i'm running benches : clipv2 crashed 2 times but the ones with µSD are still running)
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11:01:01MilardoHi, does anyone know what information, specs, etc. needed for meizu m6 rockbox?
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11:08:26Milardoanybody at all know?
11:09:29GodEaterMilardo: probably yes, but not everyone is online 24h a day.
11:09:56Milardodo you happen to know?
11:10:17GodEaterif I did, I'd have said so.
11:10:34Milardooh all right i will check back later i guess thanks anyways
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12:18:47wodzhow to disable inclusion of rockbox logo in bootloader build?
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12:26:44S_a_i_n_twodz: the SOURCES file?
12:27:05wodzI can't track this down :/
12:27:25S_a_i_n_tapps/bitmaps/native/SOURCES
12:27:45S_a_i_n_tOnly think I can suggest is to remove it from there...
12:29:34S_a_i_n_tyeah, find the appropriate LCD dimensions for your player, and remove the call to rockboxlogo.XXXxXXxXX.bmp from there.
12:29:50S_a_i_n_t*should* work, but I can't say I have tested this...
12:30:45S_a_i_n_twodz: Let me know if it works out for you ;)
12:30:49JdGordonno, thats not enough
12:30:56S_a_i_n_tahhh...bugger
12:31:30n1she needs to drop show_logo.c from his bootloader (if it's currently linked in) and any calls to show logo of course
12:31:50n1swodz: why do you need this?
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12:32:42amiconn[02:29:36] <funman> loveless: lcd is pretty easy in fact: you need to find lcd_init(), lcd_write_register(), lcd_write_data() <== for various definitions of 'easy' :\
12:32:49amiconnwodz: pong
12:32:54wodzI do not link show_logo.c but I see in map file reference to rockboxlogo
12:33:09wodzamiconn: I have funny visual effect with blit functions
12:35:45wodzamiconn: at 292Mhz I see the blob BUT it is on very light gray background and it has "ghost" with pure blank
12:36:28amiconnThen you're writing too fast for the controller
12:37:07CIA-5New commit by 03jethead71 (r25801): i.MX31/Gigabeat S: Just a little paranoid change to switcher write to active regulators method, to keep things localized a bit more from global data ...
12:37:19amiconnEither introduce some instructions between writes to increase delay, or alternatively increase the number of waitstates for the port
12:37:22DA-LaptopIs the current/voltage sent over USB to charge a device always the same?
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12:38:09wodzin test_grey I also have only odd numbered stripes of pixels (I mean every second of 8pix height is missing)
12:40:44wodzDA-Laptop: voltage is fixed at 5V, current is how much You take from port but within declared bonds
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12:47:06TorneDA-Laptop: Also, current isn't "sent", current is taken :)
12:47:16DA-LaptopAlright :P
12:47:29Torne(if the device tries to take too much then the hub will probably shut itself off for safety)
12:47:42Torne(which disables *everything* connected to it. very few hubs have per-port current limiters)
12:47:51wodzor burn down with smoke smell :-)
12:47:55TorneWell, yes :)
12:48:07TorneThe spec says you are supposed to have a current limiter :
12:48:13Tornebut "house fire" is the alternative
12:48:15DA-LaptopI was thinking of using a portable (battery) charger for my MP3 player. A buyer's comment says that one should be careful to get the voltage right
12:49:15Torneif your player is designed to charge from a USB connection then you need a charger which outputs a stable 5V regardless of load
12:49:22Torneotherwise you risk damaging it
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12:49:54DA-LaptopI always charge it from USB (because I can't find the normal charger), so I suppose it is :P
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13:06:52amiconnTorne: My el cheapo hub does have per-port overcurrent shutdown
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13:07:13Torneamiconn: i'm surprised, then :)
13:07:26Torneamiconn: a reasonable number of non-cheap devices i have don't ;)
13:08:06amiconn(4 port Transcend mini hub, the chip is a NEC)
13:08:27wodzamiconn: I increased waitstates to 12 for lcd port and nothing changed
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13:39:53markunThanks for the write support on the Clip+! Mine should arrive today, just in time :)
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14:26:57ishottuifyi would like to join the wikiusers group
14:28:37S_a_i_n_tregister with your full name FirstLast, then state your wiki username here and someone who is able to should be able to grant you access in a short while.
14:28:50S_a_i_n_tIt *must* be your real name however.
14:29:06ishottuifyi registered wikiname is VineetGeorge
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14:34:08ishottuifyhow will i know if someone has put me in the wikiusers group...?
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15:02:41amiconnwodz: Hmm, and you don't have problems with ordinary lcd updates?
15:03:13S_a_i_n_tAm I correct in thinking that r25774 now lets me specify my own version number by using "make VERSION=blah_version_blah"?
15:03:36amiconnDid you adjust the lcd update frequency in the greylib for hd200 (i.e. introduce the necessary section at the top)?
15:03:57TorneS_a_i_n_t: yep
15:04:08TorneS_a_i_n_t: no, wait
15:04:11Tornejust for tcctool :)
15:04:15wodzamiconn: no
15:04:25S_a_i_n_tAh...bugger.
15:04:35S_a_i_n_tOh well.
15:05:04wodzamiconn: Yes I added define in greylib
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15:05:28TorneS_a_i_n_t: you can already specify a versoin to build the main build with..
15:05:34S_a_i_n_tThe commit message isn't terribly explicit in that particular case...but the modified files should have given it away I guess.
15:05:45mc2739ishottuify: You now have write access to the wiki
15:05:56wodzok, have to go
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15:06:34S_a_i_n_tTorne: I know how to do it by editing main.c ( S_a_i_n_t thinks that is the file...)
15:06:42Torneno, i mean by specifying VERSION
15:07:13S_a_i_n_tHmmm...howso? I wan't aware of that.
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15:07:48Torneat least, it should work. i hate make.
15:08:03S_a_i_n_tBlue_Dude! Excellent...I finally caught you ;)
15:08:16Blue_DudeI didn't do it!
15:08:26S_a_i_n_tFS #11208 should go in IMO...
15:08:41Blue_DudeFS what? Oh wait. The keymap?
15:08:52S_a_i_n_tfor the fact that, it actually works, as opposed to current SVN for iPod
15:08:59S_a_i_n_tyeppers, iPod keymap.
15:09:40Blue_DudeThere were some objections to it. Pixelma and amiconn didn't like using a key release in the pre-condition.
15:09:57Blue_DudeI thought the fix was to modify the yesno screen.
15:10:02Blue_DudeBut I don't have one.
15:10:02S_a_i_n_tIt is still kinda hard to call the hotkey, but setting it is a million% easier with FS #11208
15:10:29S_a_i_n_tit doesn't just drop out of the yes/no screen immediately anymore
15:10:31TorneS_a_i_n_t: Yeah, setting VERSION just works. Yo ucan do that to any variable in make.
15:10:53Torneif you say make FOO=1 then any setting of FOO in the makefile is ignored and it uses your value.
15:11:13TorneBlue_Dude: Yes, I think we should modify the yesno screen anyway
15:11:15Blue_DudeThat's the behavior that FS #11208 was supposed to fix. But it is unorthodox.
15:11:25Tornebecause touch-scroll wheel actions shouldn't be interpreted as "no"
15:11:29Blue_DudeTorne: I agree.
15:11:34Torneas a seperate issue
15:11:39Torne(but affecting the same code)
15:11:40S_a_i_n_tTorne: Awesome, thanks...I don;t have to edit main.c for to keep track of my custom builds anymore ;)
15:11:43S_a_i_n_t\0/
15:11:47TorneS_a_i_n_t: you never have :)
15:12:05mc2739S_a_i_n_t: r25774 just added that ability to tcctool
15:12:09Blue_DudeWell, a yesno fix would also make the keymap patch unnecessary.
15:12:19S_a_i_n_tWell..I *thought* I had to, I blame JdGordon lol...that's the way he told me how to do it :P
15:12:30S_a_i_n_t*editing main.c
15:12:56*JdGordon did what now?
15:13:32S_a_i_n_tTold me how to edit the version info by editing main.c
15:14:05S_a_i_n_tholding out on the easier way to do it eh? ;P
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15:14:15JdGordonof course!
15:14:27*S_a_i_n_t runs of sobbing...
15:14:31S_a_i_n_t*off
15:14:46Tornesetting VERSION in make does a lot more than editing main.c, also
15:15:05Tornechanges the version number seen by everything else as well, e.g. when writing rockbox-info.txt
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15:15:49Torneediting main.c will only change the version number displayed in various places :)
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15:15:53S_a_i_n_tediting VERSION in main.c changes rockbox.info also IIRC
15:16:08Torneno it doesn't.
15:16:27Tornechanging something in a C source file can't possibly change what rockbox-info.txt gets
15:16:40S_a_i_n_tHmmm...I wonder what else I changed then.
15:16:48Torneyou probably edited Makefile
15:16:53Tornewhich is where the default VERSION gets set
15:16:58Torne(to whatever tools/version.sh returns)
15:17:11Tornethat's equivalent to passing VERSION to make, either way works
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15:19:20S_a_i_n_tBlue_Dude: I respect that 11208 can't go into SVN for various reasons...but, it handles a /lot/ better than current svn.
15:19:26Blue_DudeOn a completely different topic: I noticed that some plugins use the voice thread to insert audio. Metronome is one. Should this be the norm or should there be a dedicated channel for voice and another for sound effects? I'm leaning toward two or more mixer channels.
15:19:38S_a_i_n_tWell, I mean I actually use Hotkey now ;) Which is a plus.
15:20:07Blue_DudeS_a_i_n_t: So keep the patch until yesno is fixed. No charge!
15:20:23S_a_i_n_tHow gracious of you :D
15:20:51Tornei can't find the FS# entry where someone had a patch to change yesno to ignore certain keys
15:20:58Torneif anyone else can find it, please tell me ;0
15:21:08JdGordonBlue_Dude: dedicated channels sounds better
15:21:12JdGordondid you fix the stuttering?
15:21:23Blue_DudeYes, stuttering is fixed.
15:21:24*S_a_i_n_t is hopeless at finding patches on that tracker sometimes...I swear it's cursed.
15:21:38Blue_DudeI don't recall seeing a FS patch for yesno.
15:22:17Blue_DudeTorne: fml posted this: http://pastie.org/928381
15:22:41TorneBlue_Dude: No, the patch I am thinking of is nothing to do with the current problem
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15:22:46Torneand has existed for months/years maybe
15:23:05Tornesomeone specifically made a patch to allow certain keys to do nothing in the yesno screen, and added the ipod touchwheel scroll buttons to that
15:23:13Torneso that accidentally touching th etouchpad doesn't immediately say no
15:23:22TorneI was gonna sort it out and commit it in some form but i can't find it now ;)
15:23:27Blue_DudeJdGordon: I had to make the sim buffer really big to keep SDL from starving. So the latency is longer than the target. It doesn't stutter though.
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15:23:59Blue_DudeTorne: Never saw that patch, sorry. I'll await it with bated breath though.
15:24:21JdGordonBlue_Dude: ok cool
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15:24:44Tornehow do we want yesno to actually work?
15:24:54S_a_i_n_twell?
15:24:56Torneif we just had an explicit mapping for all the buttons that mean "no" that would solve both problems :)
15:25:06Torneit would be bigger, i guess.
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15:25:16Torneand someone would have to make sure it was right for every target
15:25:21Blue_DudeThat's a lot of combos though.
15:25:35Torneis it?
15:25:38JdGordonadd a ACTION_YESNO_IGNOREPRESS action
15:25:49TorneJdGordon: yeah. there's a patch for that, as i said :)
15:25:51Tornebut i can't find it
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15:26:28Tornewould that actually solve the hotkey issue, though?
15:26:40Tornethat's a fine approach for the touching-wheel-says-no issue :)
15:26:55Tornebut is there a reasonable way to use that to ignore button releases?
15:27:04JdGordonoh come on.. we cant all be expected to fix more than 1 issue per change!
15:27:11TorneHehe
15:27:20TorneWell, I'm trying to see if there's a way to solve both issues with one change :0
15:27:28Torneif not then fine
15:27:40Tornebut they seem kinda.. related
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15:28:38Blue_DudeTorne: the hotkey issue is the yesno screen interpreting a key release as a "no" keypress. So have yesno ignore key releases and only interpret keypresses as "no".
15:29:12S_a_i_n_tTorne: I've tried *SO* many keywords that might possibly fit that patch you're talking about...but, buggered if I can find it though.
15:29:31TorneS_a_i_n_t: yeah. i tried that too
15:29:48TorneS_a_i_n_t: it's also not on my watchlist or my todolist textfile :)
15:29:52S_a_i_n_tFlyspray is cursed.
15:29:59Tornewhich seems odd because i definately intended to do something about it
15:30:00S_a_i_n_t;)
15:30:03Blue_DudeTried searching closed items too?
15:30:51TorneBlue_Dude: fml's patch for button releases seems quite reasonable
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15:31:14Blue_DudeTorne: I saw it but didn't know what I was looking at. :(
15:31:36Tornedid he comment on whether he thought it was committable?
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15:32:03Blue_DudeNo, just posted the link. I bookmarked it but didn't know what to do with it.
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15:32:38Blue_DudeThe post was here: http://www.rockbox.org/irc/log-20100421#20:28:40
15:33:45Tornehm, isn't action_wait_for_release posisbly useful? :)
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15:34:18Torne(see end of action.c)
15:34:26Torneif it does what the comment says it does, it sounds.. highly relevant :0
15:36:42Blue_DudeOh. Well, there you go.
15:39:19Blue_DudeNow make a similar flag to ignore scroll actions and we're onto something.
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15:46:26b0hoonhi, first of all sorry for my confusion and maybe a stupid questions, but i would like to release a bootloader for the vibe. Now - the bootloader for the vibe is generally a Portal Player bootloader, so should i tag it now as a v7.0, then compile it from the tagged version and upload it on the server?
15:46:34b0hoonBut then the version will change for all the other targets too, unless it is not necessary to update every bootloader for every target on the server. Or should i just make the current version with VERSIOn=6.0 only?
15:48:20kugelyou could do a 6.1 if contains no other changes than vibe support
15:48:41kugel(for vibe only)
15:49:01JdGordonb0hoon: bootloader versions are not kept in sync between targets
15:49:24b0hoonkugel: yes it doesnt contain any other changes, so make with VERSION=6.1 would be ok then?
15:49:25kugelI think for the PP bootloaders we hacked into some files, not the make VERSION=X approach (it may still work though)
15:50:05kugeldid you change the branch/tag that exists for PP 6.0 or are going to build it from svn?
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15:50:55b0hoonkugel: i havent change anything yet
15:52:09b0hoonkugel: so there is no nedd to tag the bootloader if i understand correctly, only set the version during the compile?
15:52:17b0hoon*need
15:53:06kugelwhat do you mean by tag?
15:53:27b0hoonkugel: tagging it in svn
15:53:29kugelthe 6.0 tag doesn't work for the vibe, does it?
15:54:42b0hoonkugel: probably not, i've uploaded some current version on the file server
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15:55:03b0hoonkugel: that was something like a month ago
15:55:49kugelyou probably want to checkout the tack, merge the changes for vibe, and retag it as 6.1 (making clear somehow that it hasn't been tested on other PP devices and thus should only be used on the vibe)
15:56:11kugelbut I can imagine it'll be quite a job to merge the changes, so it would probably easier to build it from svn and tag that as 6.1
15:57:18b0hoonkugel: aa, if you ask about the changes, it's in SVN already
15:57:29linuxstbI would just release it as 1.0 - that's what we normally call the first bootloader for a particular target, and this release isn't linked to the 6.0 PP release.
15:57:50kugelthat'll work fine as well :)
15:58:01b0hooni just didnt tagged it in svn as a release
15:58:17linuxstbThe next version can always be 7.0 if we then want to sync with other PP targets.
15:58:19Torneif future releases of PP bootloaders in general are going ot include the vibe, then i think it should be the same numbering scheme, no?
15:59:39b0hoonok, so which version of approach should i use?
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16:00:09linuxstbTorne: This release isn't part of the 6.0 release though - that's an old branch, b0hoon is working with trunk.
16:00:40Torneyeah.. but presumably at some point in the future there will be a 7.0 from trunk for all of them
16:00:44*kugel would prefer 6.1 but it hardly matters afterall
16:00:48*Torne shrugs
16:01:04linuxstbTorne: Yes, so we simply go 1.0 -> 7.0
16:01:16b0hoontag as 1.0 - for the new target, tag as 7.0 portal players bootladers and then upload, or make verion=6.1 and upload
16:01:24*linuxstb shrugs as well - it's not a big deal...
16:03:17kugelb0hoon: I think you tag in any event, and only for the vibe not the other PP, the question is the particular version number
16:03:18b0hoonok, so decision is in my hands :S ?
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16:03:46b0hoonkugel: that would be a 1.0 i think
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16:06:43b0hoonok, so i'll read this discussion once again at home, and i'll try to do something usefull, thank you all
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16:30:49CIA-5New commit by 03Blue_Dude (r25808): Add logf line to talk.c
16:30:53criguidhi, i'm a blind user, with a sansa clip+. I downloaded the bootloader, the rockbox build indicated in the port pages, but cannot find the voice files. I bought the reader since everything seems to work in the port on this player now. where can I find the voice files other than in the daily builds pages? tanks for all comments in advance!
16:32:20Tornei don't think voice files are being built for clip+ yes
16:32:38Tornebecause it's still categorised as unusable
16:32:41Tornei could be wrong though
16:33:37bluebroth3rRockbox Utility can create voice files for the clip+. You might need sighted help to use that though, it's known to have issues with screen readers.
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16:34:11criguidSince all features seem to work for the port, I mean battery,fm radio, display etc I thought, when buying that voice files were available...
16:35:52Tornecriguid: it's still categorised as unusable because it probably doesn't work reliably
16:36:08Tornewrite support exists now, but that doesn't mean it isn't going to crash horribly and eat your data
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16:38:12criguidI'm also willing to collaborate if I can help, I mean with voice support or bug spotting. I'm not a computer scientist by profession but have some basic knowledge
16:39:43linuxstbB4gder: Would you object to enabling voice file builds for the Clip+ (and perhaps some of the other more advanced "unusable" targets) ? Or is it designed to only build voice files for "unstable" or "stable" targets?
16:41:33CIA-5New commit by 03Blue_Dude (r25809): Make some internal things static, add logf line to sound.c
16:41:35bluebroth3rcriguid: you could try to improve Rockbox Utility with regards to using with a screenreader and then use it to create voice files with the voice of your choice :)
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16:41:46B4gderI'm not sure exactly how it builds them atm, Zagor ?
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16:42:28Zagorit builds for all targets with status >= 2
16:43:02CIA-5New commit by 03Blue_Dude (r25810): Fix logf behavior in voice_thread.c
16:43:07*bluebroth3r wonders why the status isn't a string
16:43:27Zagorbluebroth3r: just for simplicity
16:43:38linuxstbbluebroth3r: Spot the C programmer...
16:44:09Zagora string is more hassle, since you then have to compare for "either a or b"
16:44:36ThomasAHcriguid: if you tell me which SVN revision you have and which language you need, I can compile the voice file for you. I'm using it for some time now. Only when using the FM radio, voice seems to be disabled afterwards
16:44:56B4gderZagor: you can make the strings "3stable" and "2unstable" ;-P
16:45:04*B4gder ducks
16:45:06bluebroth3rZagor: true :)
16:45:12Zagoryay :)
16:45:32criguidI can try to operate the utility, though not being a programmer I cannot make it usable with screen readers. What I can do with my knowledge is asc a sighted friend to help me in creating the voice files, but if they where available at the same time with a build it would be much easyer for me and other blind users to give it a try and report bugs
16:45:33linuxstb"Stable", "Unstable" and "Unusable" sort into that order...
16:46:24criguidthanks,
16:46:25Zagorlinuxstb: right, but "if ($status < 'Unusable')" isn't exactly making the code easier :-)
16:47:11criguidapologize for any double entries, but firefox with my screen readers doesn't work terribly with this web-client
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16:48:58criguidI just downloaded the rockbox.zip file from the port page where it explains all the procedures to make the bootloader etc, but Maybe I can check inside the zip file if there is a svn number somewhere.
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16:50:12bluebroth3rcriguid: check for the file .rockbox/rockbox-info.txt
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16:55:50criguidTarget: sansaclipplus Target id: 66 Target define: -DSANSA_CLIPPLUS Memory: 8 CPU: arm Manufacturer: as3525 Version: r25807-100504 Binary: rockbox.sansa Binary size: 479796 Actual size: 479788 RAM usage: 738324 Features: crossfade:dircache:flash_storage:lcd_bitmap:lcd_flip:lcd_invert:pitchscreen:multivolume:quickscreen:radio:recording:recording_swcodec:recording_mic:rtc:swcodec:tagcache:tc_ramcache:charging:usb_power:large_plugin_buffer gcc: arm-elf-gcc (
16:57:09criguidlanguage english or Italian, my mother tongue, but for the moment EN is fine!
16:57:42criguidshould I download a more recent svn build to give it a try?
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17:00:49bluebroth3rthis is a rather recent build −− it's from today, and there are currently only 3 more changes in svn
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17:02:47criguidOK; I can give you a mail address for the voice files or if you put them on an ftp or repository I can go and grab them
17:03:08ThomasAHcriguid: compiling first voice file now ... the version I use is two days older and works fine (except for not having write support, this was added today)
17:03:27ThomasAHcriguid: I can put it on an ftp/http server
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17:06:28ThomasAHcriguid: http://ftp.intevation.de/users/thomas/ (both english and italiano)
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17:07:37ThomasAHcriguid: I used espeak with languages "en-us+f4" and "it+f4", so voice files provided on rockbox.org will probably sound different
17:08:22criguidthanks! I wil try to copy paste the url from the chat and see... in the next few days I can give some impressions on voice problems or general problems or strange behaviour.
17:08:46criguidis this the right place to do it?
17:09:11criguidI mean I don't want to annoy you with off topic issues
17:09:14ThomasAHcriguid: I don't know, I'm not a rockbox developer
17:09:51ThomasAHcriguid: I think it is on-topic here, but if you want to report bugs, the bug tracker might have a more permanent way to report problems
17:10:11bluebroth3rcriguid: this channel is for development and support issues. So it's at least not completely off. You might get directed to the tracker when it comes to actual bugs
17:10:27criguiddid you use my version to build the voice files did you?
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17:12:49criguidok, downloaded thanks!
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17:13:49criguidwhere can I keep track of daily improvements and eventually asc for more updatet voice files if the changes are interesting to try a new build?
17:15:08AlexPcriguid: all svn commits appear on the front page, there is also a mailing list that sends you a mail on every commit
17:15:30AlexPcriguid: http://cool.haxx.se/mailman/listinfo/rockbox-cvs
17:15:32Tornethe daily improvements are not described in a form that's really easy for end users to understand, however
17:15:37AlexPThis is true
17:15:42AlexPBut that is all there is :)
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17:59:12TorneS_a_i_n_t: http://pastebin.com/YPhA9KCF
17:59:19TorneS_a_i_n_t: try that instead of the keymap change for the ipod hotkey issue
17:59:41TorneS_a_i_n_t: i've not tried it but it should in theory make yesno throw away spurious releases
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18:58:22kisak_hi guys, I was looking at the gentoo section of http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/CrossCompiler and gcc 4.0.3 is no longer in gentoo portage, I'm getting 4.0.4 right now and I was wondering if it was safe to bump the version in the wiki
18:58:33kisak_4.0.3 -> 4.0.4
18:58:57Tornekisak_: No, it's not.
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18:59:09TorneYou should use rockboxdev.sh to automatically build the toolchain
18:59:16Torneor else follow the manual instructions *exactly*
18:59:36Tornewe don't support any other toolchain versions; these are the ones that are tested and patched and that we know produce efficient code
18:59:44Torneyou don't need to get gcc from portage anyway..
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18:59:51Torneit is linked from the wiki page
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19:00:41Tornethe gentoo instructions there seem.. really dumb
19:01:05Tornenobody should be doing that.
19:01:34kisak_ok, then perhaps it's ok to leave a note in the gentoo section thet this method is not recommended?
19:02:21Torneprobably best to just remove it unless someone knows a good reason why anyone would want to do it that way
19:02:27Torneit's not been touched since 2007
19:02:57kisak_I'm out of time, I'll scan the backlog when I get home
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19:03:23*Torne waits about five minutes to see if anyone cares and then deletes it? :)
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20:34:05kugellinuxstb, gevaerts: you wanted to look at my patches? :)
20:34:56gevaertskugel: I don't necessarily *want* to ;)
20:35:05*gevaerts does have a bit of time now though
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20:39:13gevaertskugel: have you checked the binsize effects of the open/creat thing?
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20:50:44kugelgevaerts: almost 0 on my guze
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20:51:09gevaerts32 bytes on player
20:51:26kugelyea, that souns about right
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20:51:49gevaertsthat's probably something that won't get you killed
20:51:49kugelcaused by the open wrapper for plugins
20:55:50gevaertsyes, that can't really be helped, although probably it wouldn't be impossible to move the wrapper to the pluginlib
20:55:59gevaertsDefinitely not worth the effort though
20:56:39kugeli agree
20:58:42gevaertsI think the changes are fine, at least for creat/open. I haven't looked very deeply at the big libc move yet
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22:30:51CIA-5New commit by 03b0hoon (r25812): Tag release v1 of the PB Vibe 500 bootloader
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22:50:02fmlTorne: Blu_Dude: Hello. I've read your today's conversation. I don't know whether the patch I've posted on pastebin is committable since I couldn't test it. I don't own an ipod.
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22:52:02fmlBut while trying to reproduce the problem on e200 sim, I've experinced another interesting case. I went into the context menu and long pressed (and didn't release) the rec key, which, as I hoped, would reproduc the problem (long press -> hotkey menu -> key release). But this didn't happen.
22:53:55fmlInstead, the menu was just left without doing anything. And the reason was that long rec on e200 should get you directly to the recording screen. So if you long press rec, the menu code returns GOTO_REC (or what's the name?). And that case dos nothing in the further code in that context.
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23:14:11b0hoonBagder: ping
23:14:23*Bagder stands up straight
23:14:36b0hoonHello. Could you replace the bootloader on the server for the vibe, please? :)
23:15:11b0hoonBagder: i'll send it to you
23:15:20Bagdersure!
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23:19:15b0hoonBagder: sent, however it may land in the basket because of my mailbox
23:19:28Bagdergot it fine
23:19:54b0hoonBagder: thank you
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23:21:22Bagdershould be available from the download mirrors within an hour
23:21:47b0hoonBagder: thanks again :)
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23:27:31kisakTorne: it's not my place to throw out the information on gentoo's crossdev, I've put a warning on it to the sheeple
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