| 00:01:26 | Buschel | faad is faster with -O2 on PP5022 (31.6 MHz vs. 32.4 MHz). Is this also valid for other CPUs? |
| 00:04:23 | bluebroth3r | pixelma: sorry, got disconnected locally in between. My guess would be that the latter if possible at all would be anything than trivial, i.e. need someone with good LaTeX knowledge. |
| 00:04:54 | bluebroth3r | but that's way beyond my knowledge, so I guess the only way would be to prepare things beforehand. |
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| 00:18:06 | n1s | Buschel: is your change in libfaad/bits.h/get dword alignment safe? (the comment seems to suggest it is not) |
| 00:18:30 | n1s | s_/get dword_:get_dward_ |
| 00:18:38 | n1s | dword* |
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| 00:27:03 | Buschel | n1s: I should have removed the comment. The "#ifdef ARM" path was not used as ARM was not defined. So, the special handling for ARM was not active −− there was and is only the difference between big and little endian. |
| 00:28:00 | n1s | aha |
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| 00:28:52 | Buschel | btw, in the faad decoder there is some strange code and #ifdef'ing |
| 00:29:15 | n1s | yes |
| 00:29:23 | n1s | it's pretty messy |
| 00:29:56 | n1s | pretty nice speedup you got out of it though |
| 00:30:16 | Buschel | yep :) |
| 00:32:49 | CIA-6 | New commit by Buschel (r27228): Remove false comment. |
| 00:33:51 | funman | Buschel: i can test amsv2 if you want |
| 00:34:23 | CIA-6 | r27228 build result: All green |
| 00:34:41 | Buschel | funman: yes, would be fine. I will add a FS-entry to collect the results |
| 00:39:40 | Buschel | funman: FS #11450 |
| 00:40:29 | n1s | Buschel: i can try on h300 tomorrow |
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| 00:41:27 | n1s | i have been thinking about making a larger scale compiler switch tuning, where all codecs are built with O[123] and tested in one go for my targets but haven't gotten around to it yet |
| 00:42:07 | Buschel | funman/n1s: as I am on a 4-day trip until Monday evening, you will have plenty of time for testing ;) |
| 00:42:38 | n1s | ok, i'll try to remember to do it tomorrow then :) |
| 00:44:00 | Buschel | have a good night, I need to have some sleep now (hope to fall to sleep at all −− it is pretty warm here even at night...) |
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| 00:46:03 | funman | hm one of the test_file got fucked up on clip+ : 0.04s to decode |
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| 00:49:19 | n1s | funman: from just switching compiler options? |
| 00:49:30 | funman | nope with svn |
| 00:49:53 | funman | I'm pretty sure the iram is large enough on AMS but i must test the codec speed |
| 00:51:17 | n1s | yes, the faad decoder can require a lot of memory, is the clip+ using the iram as codec buffer like the clip? |
| 00:51:51 | funman | hm right :) |
| 00:52:11 | funman | so it uses it already |
| 00:52:21 | funman | i must check on fuzev1 then |
| 00:53:23 | funman | the failing file is the he-aac one |
| 00:58:04 | n1s | that probably isn't a very good testcase as it uses a lot of other features of the codec than regular aac AFAIU |
| 00:58:16 | n1s | also he-aac is dead slow currently |
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| 01:00:33 | funman | i'm pretty sure it used to decode correctly |
| 01:00:51 | funman | -O2 gives ~ 5% speedup |
| 01:01:34 | n1s | maybe buschel's batch broke something in he decoding then |
| 01:01:40 | saratoga | AAC-HE worked on the clipv2 when i tried a while ago |
| 01:01:58 | funman | 'night |
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| 01:06:24 | saratoga | someone should update CodecPerformanceComparison now that AAC, MP3 have been improved |
| 01:06:55 | * | n1s points out that vorbis has gotten some small speeups too :) |
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| 01:10:17 | * | n1s would also like to get his memory juggling patch fro tremor in but it still has a bug somewhere |
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| 01:15:42 | bieber_ | JdGordon: The new newline handling is causing a problem: now anything that has Vf/Vb tags on the same line as a viewport declaration is inserting a blank line at the beginning of the viewport |
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| 02:15:10 | TheSeven | S_a_i_n_t: have you seen any "stkov nand" panics with recent nano2g builds? |
| 02:15:48 | TheSeven | recent = since about a week |
| 02:16:10 | S_a_i_n_t | I haven't seen any stkov panics in the last two months or so, possibly longer. |
| 02:16:29 | TheSeven | even with such recent versions? that's fine then |
| 02:16:34 | S_a_i_n_t | I have however been getting random data aborts that seem to relate to skipping tracks too quickly. |
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| 02:16:47 | TheSeven | hmm that's a different issue |
| 02:17:12 | * | TheSeven was suspecting his storage idle callback commit to cause stkovs because someone reported one in the nand thread |
| 02:17:47 | S_a_i_n_t | But, no, I update my builds almost daily and I have not seen a stkov panic on the Nano2G for quite literally months. |
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| 02:19:29 | TheSeven | and you aren't using my sector cache patch either, are you? (it might be hiding the stkov) |
| 02:20:38 | CIA-6 | New commit by bieber (r27229): Theme Editor: Altered tag table entry for %pb to make image optional, implemented progress bar rendering in theme editor |
| 02:20:46 | S_a_i_n_t | On one of my Nano2Gs I am using that patch. |
| 02:20:53 | S_a_i_n_t | On the others, I'm not. |
| 02:22:21 | CIA-6 | r27229 build result: All green |
| 02:27:49 | CIA-6 | New commit by bieber (r27230): Theme Editor: Renderer will not insert a newline at the end of a line if it's the same line in the wps file as the viewport declaration, to avoid ... |
| 02:29:36 | CIA-6 | r27230 build result: All green |
| 02:30:43 | bieber_ | JdGordon: I've modified my renderer not to insert newlines when you have a %V(...)%Vf(...)%Vb(...) line, but we should fix the parser so it doesn't count the Vf and Vb as a separate line. My suggestion is to change the behavior of the \n flag in the parser so that it just eats a newline if one happens to occur immediately after the tag (or at least after some whitespace) and then put the \n flag on the end of both Vf and Vb's |
| 02:30:43 | bieber_ | argument lists in the tag table |
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| 02:58:45 | JdGordon | bieber: Vf, Vb should only not make a new line if it is attached to V() otherwise it should |
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| 03:26:38 | ruckus | hey people |
| 03:27:07 | ruckus | i reported the bug about the backlight with the metronome earlier today, and I see the change in the subversion |
| 03:27:39 | ruckus | if i donwnload the most current build, i shouldn't experience the bug anymore, right? |
| 03:27:46 | JdGordon | yeah sorry about that.. we usually dont fix bugs |
| 03:27:55 | S_a_i_n_t | ;) |
| 03:28:30 | ruckus | tsk tsk, funny people |
| 03:29:29 | ruckus | seriously though, i downloaded the most current build about an hour ago, and it had the same problem |
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| 03:34:49 | S_a_i_n_t | Which specific commit are you talking about? |
| 03:35:02 | S_a_i_n_t | ruckus: ^ |
| 03:35:31 | S_a_i_n_t | I don't personally remember seeing a commit specific to the text-viewer backlight myself |
| 03:35:49 | ruckus | S_a_i_n_t: http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi?view=rev;revision=27218\ |
| 03:38:12 | JdGordon | ok, so comment in the bug pae that it isnt fixed |
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| 03:41:05 | S_a_i_n_t | Yes, you're quite correct. It is still occuring, however bugs will spring up from time to time, it's simply impossible to excpect everything to work as expected 100% of the time. |
| 03:41:33 | S_a_i_n_t | ruckus: Have you actually lodged a bug report of Flyspray, or simply commented about it here on IRC? |
| 03:42:11 | ruckus | i commented here |
| 03:42:38 | ruckus | and people who seemed like devs started talking about |
| 03:43:28 | S_a_i_n_t | How do you determine "people who seem like devs"? |
| 03:43:29 | ruckus | (teru and pixelma) |
| 03:43:40 | ruckus | they started talking about the code itself |
| 03:43:47 | S_a_i_n_t | Make a bug report on the bug tracker please, its easier for everyone. |
| 03:44:22 | S_a_i_n_t | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/index.php?show_task= |
| 03:48:22 | ruckus | ah crap. i am just about to leave work. :( |
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| 04:08:50 | delt | ok, thanks for the help everyone! |
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| 04:28:00 | JdGordon | bieber: quick request of the %Vp tag... can you make it so the 2nd half use the "info not found" code instead of the "found" code (i.e param 3 instead of 2? |
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| 06:34:26 | bieber | JdGordon: Sure thing |
| 06:34:59 | JdGordon | ta |
| 06:35:39 | CIA-6 | New commit by Buschel (r27231): r27225 broke AAC HE profile decoding due to missing check for buffersize. Introduce a check of needed buffersize and decide whether to use a static ... |
| 06:37:28 | CIA-6 | r27231 build result: 18 errors, 0 warnings (Buschel committed) |
| 06:40:26 | CIA-6 | New commit by Buschel (r27232): Fix red. |
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| 06:47:33 | CIA-6 | New commit by bieber (r27233): Theme Editor: Switched the order of the last two arguments to %Vp in rendering |
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| 06:59:34 | JdGordon | bieber: that last commit? I meant if the list is going to show 6 items, then the first 3 should show the firt code param and the second 3 should show the 2nd code param |
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| 07:00:12 | JdGordon | its always using the 2nd code param now? |
| 07:00:19 | bieber_ | Ohh, you mean to make it look like the list is midway through loading? |
| 07:01:24 | bieber_ | I thought you just meant to flip the order of the parameters |
| 07:02:21 | JdGordon | yeah |
| 07:03:02 | bieber_ | Good idea :) |
| 07:04:35 | JdGordon | hmm, looks like you support fewer tags in the viewer than svn? |
| 07:05:28 | JdGordon | maybe only 5 or 6 missing |
| 07:05:48 | JdGordon | *eventually* I want to make that support all tags |
| 07:05:51 | bieber_ | I haven't done any of the RTL-related tags yet |
| 07:06:17 | bieber_ | And I still need to handle all the special cases for the various conditional tags |
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| 07:07:30 | bieber_ | I _should_ have everything supported within the first couple days of next week |
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| 07:18:00 | CIA-6 | New commit by bieber (r27234): Theme Editor: Switched the last two parameters of the Vp tag back to their original orientation, made the playlist display the first half with ID3 ... |
| 07:19:29 | CIA-6 | r27234 build result: All green |
| 07:20:50 | bieber_ | Aw shucks, you can't ammend a commit message, can you? |
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| 07:24:03 | JdGordon | nope |
| 07:24:12 | JdGordon | this aint git! |
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| 07:25:28 | JdGordon | bieber: much better :) I see you havnt got it doing a full update after the reparse yet? |
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| 07:26:02 | bieber_ | By all means, it should be. The image is being cleared and rerendered every time it gets reparsed, but for some reason the viewer isn't showing it |
| 07:26:33 | bieber_ | I think the QGraphicsScene just isn't sending its sceneChanged signal every time it gets cleared, for some reason |
| 07:27:06 | JdGordon | ah |
| 07:28:42 | bieber_ | Oh wait, found it |
| 07:29:06 | bieber_ | Apparently by default the viewer only changes its view if a certain amount of the scene changes |
| 07:34:00 | bieber_ | Aanddd, it turns out that's not the real problem :/ |
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| 07:58:08 | CIA-6 | New commit by bieber (r27235): Theme Editor: Fixed random outlining in default viewport, working on getting the viewer to refresh on re-render |
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| 08:00:02 | CIA-6 | New commit by jethead71 (r27236): AMS SoC's: Some register bit changes need interrupt protection: timer API and CGU_PERI. |
| 08:01:42 | CIA-6 | r27236 build result: 0 errors, 32 warnings (jethead71 committed) |
| 08:07:43 | CIA-6 | New commit by jethead71 (r27237): pl081: Fix r27236 warnings. Need system.h. |
| 08:08:03 | Dhraakellian | Does rockbox understand id3v2 replaygain tags as written by the mp3gain utility? |
| 08:08:43 | Dhraakellian | in other words, should I tell mp3gain to write id3v2 tags, or should I tell it to write APEv2 and run the files through rgfix.py? |
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| 08:09:13 | CIA-6 | r27237 build result: All green |
| 08:10:03 | * | Dhraakellian does both |
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| 08:15:34 | JdGordon | rockbox doesnt read ape tags in mp3 files |
| 08:15:44 | Dhraakellian | ... |
| 08:15:46 | Dhraakellian | I know this |
| 08:15:55 | Dhraakellian | thus the comment about running it through rgfix.py |
| 08:16:23 | Dhraakellian | hmm |
| 08:16:43 | * | Dhraakellian ponders whether that's a well enough known thing for him to actually get snippy |
| 08:17:09 | Dhraakellian | it converts the APEv2 RG tags to more common id3v2 ones |
| 08:18:01 | * | Dhraakellian shrugs, as it's past his bedtime |
| 08:27:26 | * | JdGordon thinks it is never good to get snippy if you are asking questions |
| 08:41:42 | bieber_ | Apparently the scene occasionally renders the last parse tree instead of the latest one, for no discernable reason :/ |
| 08:42:01 | bieber_ | After I spend forever trying to figure out why the viewer isn't refreshing, it turns out that it is |
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| 08:47:45 | JdGordon | messing up pointers somehow? |
| 08:48:31 | bieber_ | I have no idea, I'm trying to track it down |
| 08:48:51 | bieber_ | I have figured out that it's not random, which at least means it shouldn't be an uninitialized variable or anything like that |
| 08:49:17 | bieber_ | If you open a new document, hit enter followed by "abcd", it fails to render the 'd' every time |
| 08:49:42 | JdGordon | that is messed up :) |
| 08:50:24 | JdGordon | something seems to be eating the d |
| 08:50:35 | bieber_ | But then if you continue with more stuff, the d shows up |
| 08:50:51 | JdGordon | not if you keep hittting d |
| 08:51:19 | JdGordon | d at the end of the line is killing it |
| 08:51:41 | JdGordon | i also |
| 08:51:44 | JdGordon | and I bet f |
| 08:51:54 | JdGordon | not f |
| 08:51:55 | JdGordon | n |
| 08:52:12 | JdGordon | s |
| 08:52:12 | bieber_ | Really |
| 08:52:27 | JdGordon | x |
| 08:52:35 | bieber_ | Holy crap |
| 08:52:41 | bieber_ | This is just bizarre |
| 08:53:13 | JdGordon | your toString() must be eating it... those are the letters which do it |
| 08:53:47 | bieber_ | Ohhh, it's not showing up in the parse tree either |
| 08:53:55 | bieber_ | How did I not check that to begin with :/ |
| 08:54:21 | bieber_ | I wonder if the problem could be in the parser |
| 08:54:48 | JdGordon | probably |
| 08:54:57 | JdGordon | good luck finding it :) I'm off |
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| 09:06:45 | bertrik | jhMikeS, regarding r27236, wouldn't it have been easier to just move the CGU_PERI manipulation out of interrupt context? |
| 09:07:21 | bertrik | It seems that ascodec-as3525 does the in-interrupt CGU_PERI manipulation (I think this file is way too complicated anyway, and it never really got clear to me why it had to be made so complicated) |
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| 09:21:49 | jhMikeS | bertrik: perhaps, but then again, wouldn't it get left on if the transfer is completely async? |
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| 09:29:39 | pondlife | nm, sussed it |
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| 10:05:05 | CIA-6 | New commit by bieber (r27238): Theme Editor: Removed some old hash code that caused viewer not to update due to hash collisions. Made Vf and Vb tags attached to viewport definition ... |
| 10:06:45 | CIA-6 | r27238 build result: 0 errors, 75 warnings (bieber committed) |
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| 10:19:44 | lasser | Hi there! I'm trying to compile the themeeditor from svn using Debian lenny after a successfull run of rockboxdev.sh. I'm using 'qmake-qt4' without errors, but with 'make' I get errors: http://pastebin.org/373939 |
| 10:19:49 | lasser | What is going wrong there? |
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| 10:26:30 | pixelma | bieber: seen the warnings after your commit? |
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| 10:33:48 | bieber | pixelma: Those pop up from time to time, it shouldn't have anything to do with my commit, since none of the stuff I'm editing gets compiled by the build server (I freaked out a little last time it happened, but I've been told it's unrelated) |
| 10:34:10 | bieber | lasser: Compiling the theme editor shouldn't have anything to do with rockboxdev.sh |
| 10:34:59 | bieber | What version of Qt are you using? |
| 10:35:11 | lasser | bieber: ok, it was only a possibility for me. |
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| 10:36:24 | lasser | f$raven: qmake-qt4 −−version |
| 10:36:26 | lasser | QMake version 2.01a |
| 10:36:27 | lasser | Using Qt version 4.4.3 in /usr/lib |
| 10:36:56 | pixelma | bieber: they don't *look* like a build system quirk |
| 10:37:40 | bieber | lasser: That's your problem. I believe some of the features I'm using came in as recently as Qt 4.5, maybe even 4.6, so you'll want to upgrade to the newest version |
| 10:37:50 | bieber | pixelma: Is there somewhere I can view the actual warnings in question? |
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| 10:38:35 | pixelma | if you click on a yellow cell in the build table, you get the log |
| 10:38:47 | simonrvn | lasser: check backports (backports.org) |
| 10:40:03 | bieber | Oh, the build server is building my parser |
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| 10:41:50 | bieber | pixelma: The build table is showing one warning for a bunch of different builds, but the notification just said there were 75? How does that happen? |
| 10:43:03 | CIA-6 | New commit by bieber (r27239): Theme Editor: Fixed a warning in the parser due to a stray asterisk |
| 10:43:11 | lasser | bieber: So I have to wait for squeeze for compiling. Are there compiled bins for download anywhere? |
| 10:43:13 | lasser | simonrvn: nothing in bpo, squeeze has 4.6 |
| 10:43:34 | kugel | bieber: all warnings & errors are simply added |
| 10:43:45 | bieber | Ah, okay |
| 10:44:00 | bieber | lasser: 32 bit or 64 bit? |
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| 10:44:33 | CIA-6 | r27239 build result: All green |
| 10:46:29 | pixelma | bieber: looks like one warning on 75 "targets" (devices and sims) |
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| 10:47:43 | lasser | bieber: 32 bit |
| 10:47:45 | bieber | Is there a way to get GCC to ignore unused parameter warnings, by the way? The build server doesn't build it, but my theme editor has a lot of those that I can't get rid of, because the arguments are required for interfaces |
| 10:48:31 | bieber | lasser: I'll build it for you, just lemme fire up the VM |
| 10:49:34 | kugel | bieber: (void)param in the function or #__attribute__((unused)) int param' in the function declaration |
| 10:49:47 | n1s | bieber: it's kind of ugly but you can use some attribute to do that, or just the old (void)foo; trick |
| 10:50:12 | bieber | Is it generally considered good practice to suppress warnings like that, or just leave them there? |
| 10:50:18 | * | kugel disagrees that the attribute is ugly |
| 10:50:45 | n1s | bieber: we generally want 0 warnings, as they might hide new warnings that pop up |
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| 10:52:46 | kugel | bieber: perhaps you can put the attribute once in the interface declaration and all implementations will not show the warning anymore (I don't know c++/interfaces enough to be sure though) |
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| 10:53:25 | bieber | It might work in my own interfaces, but most of the abstract classes I'm implementing come from Qt, I'm afraid |
| 10:55:35 | lasser | bieber: woah, thank you! |
| 10:55:47 | bieber | lasser: Did you get it compiled? |
| 10:56:00 | kugel | void foo(__attribute__((unused)) int bar) {} or void foo(int bar) { (void)bar; } then. of course you can put the __attribute__ thing into a better looking #define |
| 10:56:30 | lasser | bieber: no. I mean thanks for building it! |
| 10:56:41 | kugel | the compiler removes the (void)bar step when -O is given, so both are basically equivalent. in rockbox we generally use (void)bar |
| 10:58:22 | bieber | lasser: http://filehost.bieberphoto.com/themeeditor/bin/themeeditor27239-linux-i686.tar.gz |
| 10:58:37 | bieber | I don't know if it will run with the older version of Qt installed on your machine, but you can try it |
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| 11:02:42 | bieber | Oh wait, I uploaded the source package |
| 11:03:29 | lasser | bieber: yes, I just saw that, too. |
| 11:04:57 | bieber | lasser: Download the same link now, I replaced it with the right file |
| 11:06:54 | simonrvn | lasser: :/ |
| 11:08:11 | lasser | bieber: f@raven:~$ ./themeeditor |
| 11:08:12 | lasser | ./themeeditor: /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.11' not found (required by ./themeeditor) |
| 11:08:14 | lasser | Seems I have to install squeeze in VirtualBox ;-) Thanks for your help! |
| 11:08:37 | bieber | Good luck |
| 11:09:19 | bieber | Let me know what you think of it when you get it running. Just ping me and I'll find your messages whenever I get back to my computer if I'm not around |
| 11:10:13 | lasser | ok! |
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| 11:55:50 | S_a_i_n_t | bieber: Do you remember the tag for "LANG == <LTR|RTL>"? |
| 11:56:02 | * | S_a_i_n_t can't seem to find it... |
| 11:56:17 | S_a_i_n_t | (I'm pretty sure one esists) |
| 11:56:24 | S_a_i_n_t | *exists even |
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| 12:03:24 | S_a_i_n_t | Does *anyone* remember what this tag is (%?'sometag'<lang_is_LTR|lang_is_RTL>)? I'm damn sure such a tag exists, but it's not in the manual, or the customWPS wiki page... |
| 12:03:46 | S_a_i_n_t | %Sr seems to sound familiar, but I'm not entirely sure about this. |
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| 12:07:43 | * | S_a_i_n_t gets annoyed by missing WPS tags in the manual... |
| 12:08:46 | S_a_i_n_t | "%ax : The next tag should follow the language direction (what that means is deifned by the individual tag)." Is missing from the manual |
| 12:12:58 | S_a_i_n_t | The above tag/description is taken from the customWPS page (the description sucks btw), it really should say something along the lines of "%ax :This tag will mirror a viewport according to language direction" (or something to that effect). |
| 12:13:44 | S_a_i_n_t | AFAIK it is only support by %V, %Vl and %Cl |
| 12:29:07 | n1s | S_a_i_n_t: y'know, patches are welcome ;) |
| 12:30:39 | S_a_i_n_t | I'm not really so great with TeTex myself...I could put something up on flyspray with a more accurate description, but it'd most likely be plain text as opposed to an actual diff for the manual... |
| 12:30:45 | S_a_i_n_t | Would that be acceptable? |
| 12:35:13 | n1s | yes, content is the hard part, tex is the easy part (usually, at least with simple additions like this) |
| 12:36:42 | S_a_i_n_t | Sweet, well I'm whipping a theme into shape presently, but I shall put up a flyspray task regarding this particular tag in the very near future. |
| 12:37:03 | S_a_i_n_t | One question though, what do I class it as? Is a missing tag in the manual a "bug"? |
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| 12:39:32 | n1s | S_a_i_n_t: yeah, bug is fine |
| 12:40:15 | S_a_i_n_t | Sweet, thanks. I'll put it up soon(-ish) |
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| 13:04:37 | S_a_i_n_t | Hmmm...seems I need to add *two* tags to the manual, turns out I was right about the %?<LTR|RTL> language tag. It is indeed "%Sr" I had to find it by grepping the IRC logs lol ;) |
| 13:04:56 | * | S_a_i_n_t wonders how many other tags exist that are completely unknown... |
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| 13:39:14 | pixelma | S_a_i_n_t: ask JdGordon when he's around next time... ;) |
| 13:49:58 | CIA-6 | New commit by wodz (r27241): HD200 - rework keymap |
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| 14:17:20 | S_a_i_n_t | pixelma: Well, I've definitely found one tag I know of that isn't in the Manual's tag list or listed on the CustomWPS page on the wiki. The problem is, how do you know something is missing when you don't know if it exists or not? ;) |
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| 14:18:12 | S_a_i_n_t | The only reason I knew of %Sr is that I was 99% confident I had used it before, and went looking for it in the Manual to make sure I was getting the syntax right. |
| 14:18:21 | wodz | yuppie, I managed to enable recording on MPIO :-) |
| 14:18:25 | CIA-6 | r27243 build result: All green |
| 14:18:42 | S_a_i_n_t | wodz: Awesome, congratulations \o/ |
| 14:19:43 | pixelma | S_a_i_n_t: that's why it would be nice if JdGordon would at least file a bug report (or a patch with a description at least as pure text) if he implement new tags |
| 14:20:13 | pixelma | wodz: congrats! :) |
| 14:21:07 | S_a_i_n_t | pixelma: I'm going to add a "bug report" for a propper description for %ax when I get the time later tonight, and also add %Sr now I found out that this is missing. |
| 14:21:40 | S_a_i_n_t | It will just be plain text though, as I'm not great with TeTex, but...at least it's something. |
| 14:22:22 | pixelma | to be fair, those were implemented by tomers |
| 14:23:00 | S_a_i_n_t | I'm trying to think of how to describe %ax without writing a novel...the description in the manual for it is *awfull* |
| 14:23:22 | S_a_i_n_t | I'll think of something when the time comes no doubt. |
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| 15:07:38 | * | S_a_i_n_t is quite surprised that "Mute" and "Line Level" are not in engligh.lang. |
| 15:08:02 | S_a_i_n_t | Well, surprised and annoyed... :-/ |
| 15:08:02 | * | Torne was more surprised that "OK" and "Cancel" weren't |
| 15:08:06 | Torne | (until recently) |
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| 15:10:12 | S_a_i_n_t | "Disc" is another one I'm surprised doesn't grace the lang files. |
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| 15:18:39 | pixelma | there's HD/microSD/MMC |
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| 15:23:02 | Zagor | S_a_i_n_t: perhaps because we call it "disk" :) |
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| 15:24:25 | S_a_i_n_t | Ok, well ""Disk" is another one I'm surprised doesn't grace the lang files." then ;) |
| 15:25:42 | Zagor | but it does |
| 15:25:53 | Zagor | id: LANG_DISK_MENU |
| 15:27:01 | S_a_i_n_t | Hmmmm...odd. I just see that now, I guess I kept missing it because I was grepping for "Disc" |
| 15:27:09 | Zagor | but lang entries are full used phrases, not various useful words. so a lot of entries are not found. "song" for instance. |
| 15:27:42 | Zagor | or "track", which is the word used |
| 15:28:05 | S_a_i_n_t | There's a patch on flyspray to add 'Disc" to the engligh lang file, I wonder if that guy didn't know that "Disk" was there also... |
| 15:28:23 | S_a_i_n_t | bah! "english" |
| 15:28:34 | Zagor | can you find the patch? |
| 15:28:57 | S_a_i_n_t | I can indeed...one sec. |
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| 15:31:30 | S_a_i_n_t | Zagor: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11361?project=1&string=Disc&search_in_comments=1&search_in_details=1&search_for_all=1&type%5B0%5D=&sev%5B0%5D=&pri%5B0%5D=&due%5B0%5D=&reported%5B0%5D=&cat%5B0%5D=&status%5B0%5D=open&percent%5B0%5D=&opened=&dev=&closed=&duedatefrom=&duedateto=&changedfrom=&changedto=&openedfrom=&openedto=&closedfrom=&closedto=&order=dateopened&sort=desc |
| 15:31:37 | S_a_i_n_t | ETOOLONGURL!!! |
| 15:31:42 | S_a_i_n_t | ...err, sorry. |
| 15:32:04 | pixelma | Zagor: I believe "Title" is there or something like that, for the "Track info" viewer |
| 15:32:48 | Zagor | ow, "this might be useful to someone". that is a terrible precedence. |
| 15:33:05 | Zagor | there is no end to words that can be added with that reason |
| 15:34:26 | Zagor | but we have a handful already |
| 15:34:35 | S_a_i_n_t | I'd personally like to have "Disc" in the lang files, but I understand that it shouldn;t be filled up with singular words that may, possibly* be used at some point etc. etc. I'd just like it for the exact reason that the poster of the task added it for, to me Dick == "Hard Disk", "Floppy Disk" etc. and Disc == "Compact Disc", Digital Video Disc" etc. |
| 15:35:10 | S_a_i_n_t | oh, shit...BAD typo lol |
| 15:35:16 | S_a_i_n_t | "DisK" |
| 15:35:22 | Zagor | yes, I believe that is the generally accepted disc/disk meaning |
| 15:36:25 | S_a_i_n_t | It's a pity none of the "CabbieV2" theme's use the word "Disc", then it would make sense to add it and then I could use it in my themes as well. |
| 15:36:58 | Zagor | well. it is useful. it doesn't add bloat or problems. it doesn't introduce a problem that we don't already have. I say commit. |
| 15:37:04 | S_a_i_n_t | I'm not a fan of adding words to my themes that can't be translated (assuming the other langs have a translation for the string used also) |
| 15:37:18 | S_a_i_n_t | AWESOME! |
| 15:37:26 | S_a_i_n_t | (re: Commit) |
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| 15:38:13 | gevaerts | well, any new string does add some RAM use |
| 15:38:37 | Zagor | yes, but the small amount does not meet my definition of "bloat" |
| 15:38:49 | S_a_i_n_t | Not that I want to push my luck or anything...but as I said earlier I'm kinda surprised that "Mute" and "Line Level" aren;t in the lang file either. |
| 15:39:09 | Zagor | "line level"? when is that ever used? |
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| 15:40:08 | S_a_i_n_t | I can quess that mute is probably almost universally known, but I'm almost positive that "line level" is something that would need translation for a non english speaker. |
| 15:40:33 | Zagor | S_a_i_n_t: yes, but I mean when do you use the phrase "line level" in a wps? |
| 15:40:35 | S_a_i_n_t | I like to use "line level" instead of 0dB in my themes. |
| 15:40:46 | Zagor | ! |
| 15:40:51 | n1s | ? |
| 15:41:14 | Zagor | 0db is much clear to me, but I guess that's a matter of taste |
| 15:41:20 | Zagor | much more |
| 15:41:35 | S_a_i_n_t | I guess so. |
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| 15:43:16 | S_a_i_n_t | I actually like to have a numeric dB value and a text indicator for Mute, Line Level and Max Volume if space allows for it, however...non of the text options I use can be translated which I personally find to be a PITA |
| 15:44:08 | pixelma | the problem with adding strings to be available to "some" WPS is the question where to stop. If it's used for the default - ok, the "Disk" one might justify itself if someone also implements the rest to make use of it in the "track info" |
| 15:44:26 | Zagor | perhaps we should add the possibility of translations to the wps format |
| 15:44:30 | S_a_i_n_t | JdGordon was saying at one point a few days ago that it wouldn;t be too hard to get the strings from a user created text file, and I guess that could be included in themes...which would be truly awesome. |
| 15:45:22 | S_a_i_n_t | I should bug him about that actually ;) |
| 15:45:51 | Zagor | I was rather thinking of a new tag |
| 15:46:21 | Zagor | basically "for english, print this, for french, print this" etc. |
| 15:46:43 | S_a_i_n_t | I'm not sure exactly how he was planning on doing it, some form of user created file was the impression I got at the time but I may well be wrong. |
| 15:47:16 | Zagor | in any case I think that is a better idea than adding various useful strings to the core language files |
| 15:47:27 | S_a_i_n_t | Oh, definitely. |
| 15:47:52 | gevaerts | The advantage of adding them to the core language files is of course that the regular translators see them |
| 15:48:47 | S_a_i_n_t | yes, there is that..but as pixelma said, where to stop? And as you said, it adds to the RAM usage. |
| 15:49:45 | S_a_i_n_t | I like the idea of some user created file, but that could also lead to said user getting the translations horribly wrong, or deliberately getting them "wrong". |
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| 15:50:47 | gevaerts | There might be the option of putting them in a skin-only pseudo-feature |
| 15:51:58 | gevaerts | That would keep them out of the core, while allowing to export those translations to a separate file, to be included in the wps, in a way to be figured out by JdGordon :) |
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| 15:52:28 | Zagor | I think they should be tied to the specific wps. anything else just adds new exciting failure options. |
| 15:53:00 | pixelma | then you won't see a lot translation I guess |
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| 15:53:36 | * | pixelma wonders how exactly that "user: " thing was meant in the langv2 format and if it can be of any use |
| 15:56:15 | S_a_i_n_t | I have often wondered about that myself, don't they *all* say "user: core"? |
| 15:56:15 | Zagor | pixelma: that is a possible downside. but any more general system has to be rather complex. |
| 15:57:29 | pixelma | S_a_i_n_t: currently yes, but I remember talk about it when midgey worked on the localisation of plugins (which wasn't finished) |
| 15:58:14 | S_a_i_n_t | What was the intention behind it? |
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| 16:18:10 | n1s | pixelma: iirc the user field was intended to specify the user of a string, like core or a plugin so the plugin only strings could go in plugin lang files and would not need to be loaded in the core |
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| 16:19:32 | Luca_S | the patch in FS11297 is out of sync with svn :/ |
| 16:19:58 | n1s | ok |
| 16:20:17 | Torne | patches in a lot of flyspray tasks are out of sync with svn |
| 16:20:39 | Torne | this is why you should work on getting patches you are interested in committed :) |
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| 16:22:40 | pixelma | n1s: could this be used for WPS only lang files? (maybe one for all these strings)? Not sure how loading could be handled but afaik the WPS is only loaded once at boot (or after changing it) and then kept in RAM so I guess it could work (shot in the dark though as I talk about things I'm not sure of) |
| 16:23:03 | Luca_S | Torne: i reported a few times that it worked fine, both on tracker and irc... |
| 16:23:20 | Luca_S | however it does not work well on all AMS targets |
| 16:23:39 | Luca_S | so it's there while being sorted out - but interest seem to have dropped |
| 16:23:44 | S_a_i_n_t | probably why it hasn;t been commited then, no? ;) |
| 16:24:07 | Torne | if it breaks some targets, then no, it won't get committed.. |
| 16:24:13 | funman | probably needs more testing on clipv2/clip+ |
| 16:24:30 | S_a_i_n_t | Luca_S: It's only a very small patch, it would be fairly easy for you to patch it by hand. |
| 16:24:32 | Luca_S | sure - i'm not complaining about committing, just saying that it can't get tested if can't be applied |
| 16:25:05 | Torne | Luca_S: so, resync it and upload it then |
| 16:25:08 | funman | to make the wav encoder plugin able to use all encoders we need to pull recording code on all models or enable it only for models with recording |
| 16:25:17 | Luca_S | S_a_i_n_t: i resolved the wrong hunk, but it does not compile after that (missing method?) |
| 16:25:48 | S_a_i_n_t | patch the hunks that fail by hand to a clean svn tree, svn diff > mypatchname.patch, boom...done, synced. |
| 16:26:04 | Torne | Luca_S: then investigate, and work out why, and fix it? :) |
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| 16:46:38 | lasser | bieber: ping |
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| 16:48:06 | blu3t0oth | hi |
| 16:48:10 | blu3t0oth | I have a question |
| 16:48:12 | blu3t0oth | Just wait a sec |
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| 16:48:21 | S_a_i_n_t | sweet, ask it. |
| 16:48:41 | blu3t0oth | Does Rockbox works well on this player? |
| 16:48:42 | blu3t0oth | http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280526459379&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT |
| 16:48:56 | blu3t0oth | I want to buy a player with rockbox compatability |
| 16:49:04 | lasser | bieber: I successfully compiled themeeditor. And what shall I say. Nice :-) Since months my slefmade wps was broken, and now I could repair it in 10 minutes because of the error hints of your themeeditor. Thanks for the great work! |
| 16:49:33 | lasser | ups... selfmade |
| 16:49:33 | Luca_S | uhm... FS11297 - the clock divider table was #defined for AS3525_PCLK_FREQ == 40000000, but in clock-target.h it gets defined to 41333334, that's why it des not compile... |
| 16:49:40 | S_a_i_n_t | blu3t0oth: Supported players on on the rockbox main page, if the player isn;t listed there rockbox will not run on that player. |
| 16:50:14 | blu3t0oth | I found mine |
| 16:50:15 | blu3t0oth | but |
| 16:50:26 | blu3t0oth | I don't know if the 2 gb version is working |
| 16:50:43 | S_a_i_n_t | What player is it? I can't be bothered looking at the link sorry... |
| 16:51:10 | blu3t0oth | Sandisk Sansa e250 2 GB |
| 16:51:28 | S_a_i_n_t | Yes, rockbox runs on this device. |
| 16:51:30 | funman | Luca_S: try the penultimate patch |
| 16:51:41 | blu3t0oth | S_a_i_n_t: Thank you |
| 16:51:51 | S_a_i_n_t | It doesn;t matter what size the internal storage is. |
| 16:51:53 | Torne | blu3t0oth: does the front page not make it clear? |
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| 16:52:55 | Torne | it says e200 series (all models) |
| 16:53:12 | blu3t0oth | Ah ok, thanks |
| 16:53:12 | Torne | can you suggest a way to make it clearer? |
| 16:53:25 | Torne | You said you'd looked at that already |
| 16:54:05 | blu3t0oth | Yea, i was thinking that e250 is not e200 |
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| 16:56:06 | * | Torne looks confused.. then why did you think it worked on the e250 at all? |
| 16:56:15 | Torne | what i mean is, what gave you the impression that the size would matter |
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| 17:01:32 | S_a_i_n_t | You scared him away Torne :P |
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| 17:27:09 | Luca_S | funman: the penultimate patch applies cleanly, compiles and runs :) |
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| 17:45:58 | n1s | hmmm, this mdct compiler option test was rather interesting. O2 is faster than Os (which is used in svn) for all the codecs but O3 is significantly slower than O2 for all codecs *except* wma where it's actually quite a bit faster than O2... |
| 17:47:27 | n1s | O3 is 8% faster than O2 for the 128kbps wma test file |
| 17:48:05 | n1s | but i suppose we don't want to build the lib with different options for different codecs, do we? |
| 17:49:07 | n1s | pixelma: i suppose that could work |
| 17:49:41 | n1s | we would need different lang files for different wps's then or there wouldn't be much point |
| 17:50:00 | n1s | well, or cleverer loading |
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| 17:52:22 | Luca_S | uhm... something strange happened! fuzev2, frequency switching patch, audio on pllb: panic stack underflow.. viewportmanagr |
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| 17:53:12 | Luca_S | and before panicking, the fm radio started jumping across stations... from 92.6 to 92.3 then 108 and stopped tere |
| 17:53:13 | Luca_S | there |
| 17:53:44 | Luca_S | when i tried to change it, it went to 108 and a few seconds after, had the panic |
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| 17:54:47 | Luca_S | strange that it worked for about 45mins (the second half of brazil-nederland :D) |
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| 17:59:40 | saratoga | n1s: thats just changing the compiler flags for mdct.c? |
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| 18:09:00 | n1s | saratoga: well, the whole codec lib but the other stuff shouldn't make this kind of difference |
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| 18:09:26 | saratoga | n1s: this is for ARM? |
| 18:09:32 | n1s | no, coldfire |
| 18:10:05 | n1s | is wma using different sizes than the other codecs or something? |
| 18:11:08 | n1s | doing the same tests for arm might be interesting though |
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| 18:13:16 | saratoga | n1s: yes WMA/WMAPRO is weird |
| 18:13:28 | saratoga | it uses 5 (or 6 for Pro) window sizes all at once |
| 18:13:38 | saratoga | all the other codecs use either 1 or 2 window sizes |
| 18:13:59 | saratoga | the difference for CF makes some sense, theres hardly any ASM for it |
| 18:14:07 | saratoga | i would be surprised about aram |
| 18:14:09 | saratoga | arm |
| 18:15:15 | n1s | i think i'll stick with O2 for cf and leave hacking up a solution for wma for someone else, it's still better than the Os used in svn |
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| 18:52:37 | bertrik | I can very reliably reproduce the extra button press after exiting a plugin problem now on my e200 |
| 18:53:09 | bertrik | When starting the dict plugin and exiting with a brief press of the power button, the problem appears |
| 18:53:48 | S_a_i_n_t | Are you talking about exiting a Plugin eating the first button press? |
| 18:54:42 | bertrik | yes |
| 18:55:44 | bertrik | It does not happen when I hold the power button a little longer, releasing it only when we have fully returned to the plugin menu (and the "Cancelled" popup has disappeared) |
| 18:58:29 | bertrik | It happens both on my sansa e200 and on my sansa clip+, so it does not seem to have anything to do with having a scrollwheel or not |
| 18:59:03 | S_a_i_n_t | It has been annoying me on my iPod Nano1/2Gs for as long as I remember... |
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| 19:00:35 | S_a_i_n_t | I believe it may be linked to the scroll-wheel sometimes nut working until after a button-press also. |
| 19:00:43 | S_a_i_n_t | (again, on Nano1/2G) |
| 19:00:55 | S_a_i_n_t | s/nut/not/ |
| 19:02:36 | pixelma | bertrik: is it specific to some plugins or does it happen for all (thinking about those using pluginlib actions and the others)? |
| 19:06:35 | bertrik | pixelma, I don't know yet, but it's very reproducible with the dict plugin, also with pictureflow if you press power quickly after entering it |
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| 19:11:18 | * | amiconn grumbles |
| 19:11:40 | amiconn | The old text viewer did chunked reading when the file didn't fit into the available buffer |
| 19:11:42 | bertrik | I think with dict, we don't really do much in the plugin, just waiting in rb->kbd_input |
| 19:12:56 | amiconn | The new one apparently stops playback to use the audio buffer, which is (a) bad if you want to read something large-ish while listening to music, and (b) limiting the file size, especially on lowmem targets |
| 19:13:41 | bertrik | Sounds like a bad idea indeed |
| 19:14:24 | pixelma | maybe take it to the dev ml? |
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| 19:24:22 | S_a_i_n_t | That does seem like a horid idea indeed, the few times I do actually use text_viewer I'm usually listening to music also. :/ |
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| 19:33:17 | bieber | lasser: Thanks, glad to hear it worked well for you. Give it another week or two, and it should get really interesting :) |
| 19:33:40 | simonrvn | woot |
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| 19:34:29 | lasser | bieber: Ok. What are you working on? Or is it a secret? |
| 19:34:43 | bieber | No secrets, I'm working on the theme rendering |
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| 19:36:15 | bieber | By mid next week, I should have most everything implemented, and I'll have the device control panel fixed up so that there aren't any redundant settings. Then I'm going to add a timer panel to automatically advance time so you can watch things move |
| 19:37:21 | bieber | Then after that I'll be working on some drag and drop editing for WPS files |
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| 19:40:25 | simonrvn | wow |
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| 19:43:47 | funman | i need some help for apps/ code : i would like to confirm if encoder selection is handled as global settings |
| 19:44:43 | funman | I would like to reuse enc_config.c code in a .wav encoder plugin, but I am not sure if plugins are allowed to change global (recording) settings |
| 19:46:04 | simonrvn | rec format: wvpk ? on mine - it's in .rockbox/config.cfg |
| 19:46:13 | funman | amiconn: the text viewer isn't stealing audio buffer. |
| 19:46:53 | simonrvn | (i inserted that '?' fyi) |
| 19:48:32 | funman | simonrvn: well yes we can record in wavpack, mp3, wav or aiff |
| 19:48:40 | lasser | bieber: What about inserting code snippets? Like "insert %V tag" with a popup for all the options? Or will that be the work for next gsoc? ;-) |
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| 19:49:51 | simonrvn | funman: yeh, that setting as you know was set from the settings sub-menus. but you said plugins. thought it might be useful, sorry. |
| 19:52:21 | LambadaCalculus3 | simonrvn: well that answers my first question so thank you |
| 19:52:48 | simonrvn | np |
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| 19:54:05 | LambadaCalculus3 | the options in recording menu are just a shortcut to the settings |
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| 19:58:19 | bieber | lasser: That will be part of the graphical editing |
| 19:58:41 | bieber | For viewports, you'll be able to click and drag an area on the preview, and then set its options |
| 19:59:15 | simonrvn | mm i see |
| 19:59:19 | lasser | bieber: cool! |
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| 20:00:43 | funman | JdGordon: ping? check my question at 19:44 (logs time) |
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| 20:02:54 | n1s | saratoga: i misread the test results pretty badly, that wma discrepancy isn't there... |
| 20:03:12 | n1s | ah! it is, it's my table that weird |
| 20:03:17 | n1s | sorry |
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| 20:08:49 | ryran | QQ: hopped onto my build machine to get a new build for my ipod for the first time in ... a month and a half maybe.. and upon doing a make reconf was greeted with an error about arm-elf-eabi-gcc being missing. Is this something new or changed in the build process for arm? |
| 20:09:09 | n1s | new toolchain |
| 20:09:16 | ryran | mm |
| 20:09:35 | Torne | you need to build a new one. delete the old toolchain directory, run rockboxdev.sh again and ask for an eabi toolchain when it prompts |
| 20:09:52 | ryran | ah that's it? cool! |
| 20:10:09 | Torne | well, it will take a while :) |
| 20:10:23 | ryran | heh |
| 20:10:40 | AlexP | pixelma: I had a look at the onda 777 manual patch - the English is fine (if a little informal), but I think the instructions need a little more detail. e.g. "item Compile the bootloader (this will generate a \fname{ccpmp.bin} file)." |
| 20:11:02 | ryran | to be clear, since this is NOT what I do everyday, the toolchain dir would be the dir in /usr/local right? (As in, /usr/local/arm-elf) |
| 20:11:07 | AlexP | However, I guess that is temporary as when appropriate (not yet?) we will supply that |
| 20:11:25 | n1s | ryran: yes |
| 20:11:35 | ryran | n1s: THANKS |
| 20:11:38 | saratoga | any reason FS #7831 - FLAC files with "unknown" total samplecount are rejected hasn't been committed? |
| 20:13:50 | funman | saratoga: i assume linuxstb opened the bug and then didn't see the patch ? |
| 20:22:45 | ryran | @ ns1 or Torne or anyonen else: do we still need the old arm toolchain to build for ipods or only arm-eabi? |
| 20:24:36 | funman | only for ipod4g |
| 20:24:40 | funman | and for testing |
| 20:24:59 | ryran | I seeeeee. thanks funman. |
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| 20:27:08 | amiconn | funman: Since r27213 it seems to |
| 20:27:36 | amiconn | Err, that's the editor |
| 20:27:57 | * | amiconn slightly confused |
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| 20:33:25 | fml | AlexP: Hello. What do you think about http://pastebin.ca/1893525 ? It makes the first column in the tags tables narrower. |
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| 20:39:14 | CIA-6 | New commit by saratoga (r27244): Commit FS #7831. Corrects our flac decoder to not reject files that have samplecount set to 0. |
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| 20:41:53 | CIA-6 | New commit by saratoga (r27245): Add Joshua Hulst to credits for FS #7831. |
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| 20:43:51 | ryran | funman: I just noticed you left a comment 7days ago on a task I opened a while back. (http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11344) you told me to ping Blue_Dude ... who's that by the way? |
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| 20:46:56 | saratoga | anyone know why bigbambi closed FS #7565 - support for the TPA tag? |
| 20:47:09 | AlexP | saratoga: You could ask me :) |
| 20:47:20 | saratoga | somehow i didn't see your name |
| 20:47:44 | saratoga | ryran: hes the person who wrote the hotkey code |
| 20:47:59 | fml | AlexP: have you seen my message above? |
| 20:48:28 | AlexP | fml: Yep, and sounds fine - I'll just have a quick look how it looks |
| 20:48:49 | AlexP | saratoga: I can't actually remember - it was part of the devcon clean up |
| 20:49:02 | fml | AlexP: ok, I'll wait |
| 20:49:18 | saratoga | AlexP: this is why its good to put a message when you reject something :) |
| 20:49:24 | AlexP | Indeed yes |
| 20:50:25 | saratoga | goolging around suggests that TPA is ancient, so thats probably why it was rejected |
| 20:50:46 | AlexP | I suspect it was as it is an obsolete tag and nobody had taken an interest so it was just rotting |
| 20:51:41 | AlexP | But I don't suspect there would be any real opposition if you wanted to add it |
| 20:52:49 | AlexP | fml: Looks good to me |
| 20:53:21 | fml | AlexP: commit? |
| 20:53:28 | AlexP | saratoga: Incidently, you didn't see my name there as it isn't as such - bigbambi is an oooooold nick :) |
| 20:53:32 | AlexP | fml: Sure |
| 20:54:10 | AlexP | fml: I think it better to have the odd tag wrapped on mutiple lines than loads of the descriptions |
| 20:54:11 | CIA-6 | New commit by alle (r27246): Make the first column in the tag tables narrower |
| 20:55:06 | fml | AlexP: what do you mean? |
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| 20:56:41 | AlexP | fml: In general the description is longer than the tag, so with a wider tag column fewer tags took multiple lines, but loads of descriptions did. Now with a narrower tag column, a couple of tags wrap but the descriptions look better, i.e. a narrower tag column is better |
| 20:57:58 | CIA-6 | New commit by alle (r27247): No need to capitalize every word |
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| 20:59:29 | fml | AlexP: ah, yes, that's what I think too |
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| 21:00:49 | fml | AlexP: and what about the fact that each parameter (in e.g. album art tag) is explained in its own table row? It'd do it differently: only one row, but with line breaks in the cell. |
| 21:02:47 | AlexP | fml: Yes, I think I agree |
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| 21:29:04 | fml | AlexP: why do we use \textless for < etc? It's only necessary in math mode (?) which we don't use. |
| 21:32:50 | CIA-6 | New commit by alle (r27248): Onle one table row per WPS tag |
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| 21:38:06 | bertrik | Does anyone have any idea why the mod codec metadata handler put the title of the mod in the artist field? |
| 21:38:32 | bertrik | There's even a comment explicitly saying so, so it must be intentional |
| 21:38:58 | bertrik | (See also http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11414) |
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| 21:42:54 | pixelma | _if I remember correctly_ mod doesn't have metadata in its usual sense, just something like an attached text where lines can be interpreted as something. I believe there is/was some common style about the order to use but also lots of lots mod authors put something else there. (citation needed) |
| 21:43:19 | AlexP | fml: No idea |
| 21:44:26 | bertrik | pixelma, I looked into the mod format, there is only a song title and basically nothing else (well there are instrument names). Besides that there's only the filename which is often the same as the song title. |
| 21:45:08 | pixelma | yeah, some authors used the instrument names for more info |
| 21:45:44 | pixelma | or "misused" |
| 21:46:14 | bertrik | One reason that I can think of that it is done the way it is now, is that it at least looks semi-decent in CabbbieV2, no "(root)" displayed |
| 21:48:10 | bertrik | I looked at a few .mod files and couldn't see an obvious pattern yet in the names of the instruments, so I think we can't really rely on that |
| 21:48:32 | pixelma | indeed |
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| 21:49:06 | balintx | help |
| 21:49:19 | balintx | vcodec=mpeg2video:vbitrate=<bitrate> -vf scale=<width>:<height>,harddup -ofps 25 -o <filename>.mpg |
| 21:49:21 | balintx | what to bitrate? |
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| 21:51:18 | bertrik | Is there some overview of default metadata values in case they're not set by the metadata parser? |
| 21:55:49 | CIA-6 | New commit by alle (r27249): No need to use textless, textgreater and textbar where <, > and | can be used |
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| 22:41:10 | pixelma | AlexP: oh, thanks. So do you think it can be committed this way for now? |
| 22:41:55 | AlexP | pixelma: Yes, it is a good start and it is best to get it in IMO |
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| 22:42:45 | pixelma | unfortunatelly giovanni didn't answer since although he asked me quite a bit about it last week |
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| 23:42:07 | dfkt | what's the key combo to charge the clip+ with rockbox instead of OF? |
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| 23:43:46 | saratoga | dfkt: hold select I think |
| 23:45:04 | dfkt | thanks saratoga, that's it - seems it only works when rockbox is running, not when the player is off |
| 23:47:11 | saratoga | dfkt: correct, the prebootloader will always boot the OF if theres USB connected |
| 23:47:21 | saratoga | its a safety thing meant to make it harder to brick a plaer |
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| 23:47:26 | saratoga | player |
| 23:49:02 | dfkt | ok, i was just trying every possible key combo to get it charging with rockbox (simply to get the screen to shut off, which the OF doesn't do for half an hour or so) :) |
| 23:49:54 | saratoga | we'll probably change that once we get rockbox USB working and fully debugged |
| 23:50:53 | dfkt | i hope one day rockbox will take over 100%, that would be the least hassle |
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