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#rockbox log for 2010-07-17

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00:30:53bertrikIs there a way to tell if an old language patch still makes sense?
00:35:40kisaklearn the language?
00:35:52bertrikno
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00:44:02wideonhi i have a 2gb colour ipod and it will not format and it will not restore what can i do it only 2gb with colours screen
00:45:13wideonu there anyone
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01:16:00saratogan1s: skimming the code, it looks to me like the windows in wma of size N and element X contain the same values as the IMDCT trig table of size 2*N and element 2*X+1
01:16:27saratogaso i think we could merge all but the largest table (since there isn't an IMDCT table large enough for the biggest one)
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01:17:03saratogabut i'm just skimming the code so I could be wrong
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02:35:57CIA-6New commit by 03bieber (r27451): Theme Editor: Integrated target db with project creation code. Now changing the target option in the New Project dialog will change the available ...
02:37:38CIA-6r27451 build result: 6 errors, 0 warnings (bieber committed)
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04:58:54joecoolconfirmed s9/j3 use the same sdcfg values for the 32gb models.... tcctool needs to be modifed to differentiate between 8/16gb models and 32gb models
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05:00:03joecoolhttp://iaudiophile.net/forums/showthread.php?p=296727&posted=1#post296727 << I have tested the build personally on linux with a 32gb j3 and built a copy for windows that worked on someone else's 32gb s9
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07:43:03kraaiRevision 27446 broke the wma codec build for the Sansa Clip; it now fails to build with "wma.elf section `.bss' will not fit in region `PLUGIN_RAM'" and "region `PLUGIN_RAM' overflowed by 5456 bytes".
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09:46:40CIA-6New commit by 03mt (r27452): Enable ff_copy_bits in ffmpeg_bitstream.c and put_bits.h and intreadwrite.h to codeclib.
09:48:26CIA-6r27452 build result: 6 errors, 0 warnings (mt committed)
09:53:18CIA-6New commit by 03mt (r27453): More cleaning for libwmapro; use codeclib's bitstream functions and drop those from the libwmapro.
09:54:55CIA-6r27453 build result: 6 errors, 0 warnings (mt committed)
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10:00:15CIA-6New commit by 03mt (r27454): libwmapro : Rename all FIXED occurrances to int32_t and remove types.h
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10:09:19CIA-6New commit by 03mt (r27455): libwmapro : remove dead/unneeded code from wma.[ch]
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10:10:49CIA-6r27455 build result: 6 errors, 0 warnings (mt committed)
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10:19:08CIA-6New commit by 03mt (r27456): libwmapro no longer needs libm in the sim; update the makefile and README.rockbox.
10:20:09pixelmathe build errors get a bit irritating...
10:20:40CIA-6r27456 build result: 6 errors, 0 warnings (mt committed)
10:21:59mtiirc n1s knows about it and said he would fix it later.
10:22:17n1syes
10:22:24n1si'm working on it
10:22:52mtgreat :)
10:23:14*mt thinks he can now say : Let the optimisations begin !
10:25:51n1smt: did you fix the freezes in wmapro?
10:26:15mtwhat freezes ?
10:27:38mtn1s: btw, the codec buffer on those 3 small mem targets is ~288K ?
10:28:24n1sboth my sim and h300 froze when i tried wmapro yesterday
10:28:33n1syeah, 288k IIRC
10:29:24amiconnThere are more problems
10:29:43amiconnlibwmapro doesn't even build when crosscompiling for win32, or when compiling on cygwin
10:31:58mtn1s: is your system big endian ?
10:32:59mtamiconn: The problem in that case is in firmware/include/file.h not seeing our sys/types.h
10:33:22amiconneh, wait
10:33:38CIA-6New commit by 03nls (r27457): Begin shoehorning wma into the clip codec buffer again. Reduce the static buffer used by init_vlc so that it is no larger than is needed. Make the ...
10:34:02n1smt: not my computer, no
10:34:13n1si'll try again, just to make sure
10:34:20mtAlright
10:35:14CIA-6r27457 build result: 6 errors, 0 warnings (nls committed)
10:36:07mtregarding the win32 sim cross compile issue; if the line #include <sys/types.h> in file.h is changed to #include "../libc/sys/types.h", compilation will continue without errors. (at least that how it worked for me)
10:36:23n1syeah, the sim freezes and starts sucking lots of cpu and i have to kill it so it looks like an endless loop
10:36:44n1si tried with one of the files saratoga added to the test_files
10:36:59mtthat's weird
10:37:26mtn1s : which one ?
10:37:34amiconnIt seems to work now
10:37:49amiconn(r27456)
10:39:47amiconnAh, you removed the need for types.h in r27454. That's probably it
10:40:33n1smt: all of them, although the highest bitrate one plays a few seconds first, the others freeze without any sound ever coming out
10:40:41amiconnCalling a header file the same as a system header is calling for trouble. So it's good that it has been removed
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10:41:43*mt slaps forehead
10:41:54mtnever thought of that last night
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10:44:32mtn1s: Ah it's failing for me .. I'll see what's that about.
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10:49:23CIA-6New commit by 03nls (r27458): Remove unused 2kB buffer and some dead code.
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10:57:33CIA-6New commit by 03nls (r27459): libwma: Reduce size of runtab and levtab buffers, only one set can get the worst case size so make the other set the second worst case size.
10:59:02CIA-6r27459 build result: 6 errors, 0 warnings (nls committed)
10:59:54n1sdoes anyone know where i can find a 16kbps wma file to test my last size optimization?
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11:13:57CIA-6New commit by 03mt (r27460): Increase the size of quant table in libwmapro to accomodate more values for exp. Fixes wma pro failure on test files in ...
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11:22:55mtn1s: I can make you a 15kbps or a 19kbps file if you want
11:23:25n1syes! that would be great :)
11:23:53n1si want one that uses lsp, saratoga said that is only used at 16kbps or so
11:27:00wodzdo we have "flush cache" ata command implemented?
11:28:00n1saccording to wikipedia lsp is used for less than 17kbps so 15 would be good
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11:30:53mtn1s: 15k coming your way then :)
11:30:58n1ssweet
11:31:32mtthere : http://mtarek.com/rockbox/wma_15k.wma
11:32:17n1sthanks!
11:32:54mtyou're welcome
11:34:58GrahackHi all, I just run rockboxdev.sh and encountered a dependency problem. After the fix, the script stopped because I had to delete manually /tmp/rbdev-build/build-binu-e/, then it complain again and I had to delete manually /tmp/rbdev-build/build-gcc-e/. Don't you think it would be nice to call 'cleardir $builddir $arch' it the dirs exist at around line 300 of rockboxdev.sh ?
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11:55:41CIA-6New commit by 03mt (r27461): Check for errors from decode_packet in wmapro.c
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12:16:40*JdGordon has a wild stab in the dark and assumes noone who cares about themeing is online?
12:16:51JdGordonI want to change the %Xd() tag...
12:17:25pixelmahow?
12:19:47JdGordonthere is no reason to force single letter labels anymore, so that is an easy change, but then how is Xd supposed to handle subimage loading?
12:20:03JdGordonso I want to change to %Xd(label [,subimage NUMBER])
12:20:23pixelmasubimages for the backdrop?
12:20:33JdGordonxd()
12:20:42JdGordonwhateveer the image display tag is
12:21:04JdGordonI could add support to allow people who want %xd(Aa) to keep working fairly easily
12:23:06pixelmaI don't see much of an advantage with this label thing, especially with subimages it makes for a lot longer lines in the code
12:23:57JdGordonbecause you dont understand the next stepw hcih I explained last time I brought this up... change the subimage part to an enum-able tag
12:24:05JdGordon%xd(shuffle, %ps)
12:24:45pixelmaseperating main "ID" and subimage "ID" with a comma might make sense though probably breaks themes again
12:24:51JdGordon%?ps<%Xd(Sa)|%xd(Sb)>
12:25:18pixelmaI understand the latter much better
12:25:35pixelma(except %Xd...)
12:26:17JdGordondefinetly does
12:33:09*JdGordon wont change anything in this mammoth patch and leaves it for later
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12:40:02CIA-6New commit by 03nls (r27462): libwma: Reuse a static buffer that was unused while decoding lsp files for some lsp related tables.
12:40:27n1sthat should do it
12:40:59*JdGordon is finshed replacing the old skin parser!
12:41:19JdGordonso testing help needed... or expect lots of bug fix commits
12:41:31CIA-6r27462 build result: 0 errors, 10 warnings (nls committed)
12:41:49n1sdarnit
12:42:37n1sahaha, the older gcc decided i break strict aliasign, sigh
12:45:39JdGordon(add/remove: 42/26 grow/shrink: 10/19 up/down: 14723/-13000)
12:45:39JdGordonTotal: 1723 bytes
12:47:58pixelmaany specific reason it adds something in binsize? Because you said code would be cleaner and more simple, so I'd expect smaller binsize in the end too
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12:53:26JdGordonwtf? did my reply go through?
12:55:41pixelmadoesn't look like it did
12:56:11JdGordonthe new parser is about 7K, I'm not down to under 1K added
12:56:51JdGordonthe new parser being bieber's libskin_parser
12:57:42CIA-6New commit by 03nls (r27463): libwma: void pointer voodoo to get rid ov strict aliasing warnings
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12:59:18n1s\o/
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13:01:51JdGordonis it better to do a lseek to 0 or open and close the file twice?
13:02:03JdGordonis one much faster than the other?
13:02:07JdGordonI assume seeking is better?
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13:04:45n1smt: wmapro plays fine in my sim now and seems to play fine on h300, evn the 55k sample is far from realtime though
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13:05:50mtn1s: great. How slow is it though on h300 ? Could you do a speed test when you're free ?
13:06:42CIA-6New commit by 03bertrik (r27464): Walloon language update - FS #11039 by Stéphane Quertinmont
13:07:42n1smt: i have one running now
13:08:23CIA-6r27464 build result: All green
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13:08:31CIA-6New commit by 03nls (r27465): Delete unused header
13:08:55wodzI keep asking: Are there any objections to commit FS #11324?
13:09:53CIA-6New commit by 03nls (r27466): Oops, revert unintentional commit
13:10:11CIA-6r27465 build result: All green
13:10:22mtn1s: Thanks
13:10:29n1smt: the 55k sample is 63.5% realtime
13:10:43JdGordonwodz: probably not... you'll hear about it on the mailing list if there are :p
13:10:50mtaw .. alright
13:12:30bertrikwodz, I'm sure it looks nice but to be honest I don't really see the point of beautifying a debug menu
13:12:30n1smt: are you using the codeclib mdct?
13:12:30n1sanyway, iram makes a *big* difference on coldfire
13:12:39CIA-6r27466 build result: 33 errors, 0 warnings (nls committed)
13:13:31n1s?
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13:13:46mtn1s: no I'm not using codeclib's mdct
13:14:38n1smt: if you do that and some basic iram usage for the hottest data i think it'll make a big difference on cf
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13:16:03n1sah, those errors weren't mine
13:17:23*JdGordon needs to start fixing checkwps :/
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13:21:16n1sah, it's using the codeclib fft for mdct so switching to the codeclib mdct will probably not make such a big speed difference, it will be cleaner though :)
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13:28:41n1smt: what do you think about limiting the wmapro decoder to 2 channels, it will reduce memory requirements greatly and make it easier to use iram, also i don't think we'll see 7.1 channel DAPs any time soon :)
13:29:08CIA-6New commit by 03wodz (r27467): Beautify view_battery() graph in debug menu. FS #11324 by me
13:30:00n1smost other decoders do this even if the format supports multichannel
13:30:38CIA-6r27467 build result: All green
13:31:54mtn1s: Actually, I wanted to add a down-mixing feature to the codec .. certainly wasn't relying on the possibility of a 7.1 channel DAP ;)
13:33:32n1sok, maybe a special case can be made for stereo then since i think that is probably the most common
13:33:55mtYeah
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13:37:12JdGordongood news kugel... my latest patch removes the stupidly crazy buffer alloc stuff :)
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13:38:04mtkugel: That types.h error was fixed. Turned out to be libwmapro's types.h that was causing the trouble.
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13:41:45wodzthis random build system errors are rather irritating
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14:19:29JdGordonbieber: ping
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14:34:52bertrikDo we have documentation of the ipod remote FM protocol?
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15:06:54wodzWho is 'icon guy' in rockbox?
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15:09:49JdGordonwoohoo! (add/remove: 31/44 grow/shrink: 24/13 up/down: 14036/-14971)
15:10:38JdGordonTotal: -935 bytes
15:10:39JdGordonwodz: depends what side of icons you want...
15:11:41JdGordonhehe woops :p ordered the files backwards
15:11:50wodzI would like to have simple 2bit 'charging' icon(s) to be used in bootloader
15:14:55JdGordonsimplest way is bin2c a bmp and manually draw it with lcd_put_bmp() or whatever that function is
15:16:29wodzThats clear. The hard part is manually draw :-). I am not good with art
15:16:59gevaertsJdGordon: is this against svn head?
15:18:03JdGordonunless I messed up the git svn command
15:18:04JdGordongit svn rebase; no?
15:18:22gevaertsapps/gui/skin_engine/skin_buffer.c is claimed to be reversed
15:18:39JdGordonignore that file, it is deleted
15:18:42gevaertsAlso apps/gui/skin_engine/skin_buffer.h
15:18:44gevaertsok
15:18:48JdGordonditto that one
15:21:30JdGordonyeah, not sure what happened, but the trackers output for the diff changed with the last few patches
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15:24:44gevaertsJdGordon: it behaves a bit weirdly
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15:27:11gevaertsJdGordon: when I start playback first it renders the non-AA WPS (AA not found yet presumably), then it switches to the AA variant. When that switch happens, the old conditional viewports are not cleared
15:27:40gevaertsIf I then leave the WPS and re-enter it, it's fine (as expected)
15:27:51JdGordonok, im going to bed, can you put that in the tracker?
15:27:53gevaertsScrolling seems to be broken
15:28:04JdGordonits probbaly because it starts displaying too quickly and the aa isnt ready yet
15:28:18gevaertsyes, that's clear, but it should clear this later on
15:28:40gevaertsScrolling *sometimes* works after I stop playback, before it goes back to the menu
15:35:46bertrikAre there any developers with an ipod fm remote?
15:36:43bertrikAccessories are not on the RockboxTesting wiki page
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15:40:17kugelwhat the heck: http://pastie.org/1048518
15:41:51kugelafter the compilation it pasted the news into the shell
15:43:16kugelhm, was probably my bad
15:43:22wodzbertrik: FM remote - You mean FM transmitter?
15:44:32bertrikno, there is an FM remote accessory for ipods that receives FM
15:44:59wodzI see.
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16:00:59bertrikDo we have a policy on accepting language patches where the translated text (excepting trivial stuff like "OK") is exactly the same as the english text?
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16:01:43bertrikI'm looking through some language patches on the tracker and I see this happen for some texts.
16:02:00gevaertsI think those should be avoided
16:02:46pixelmahuh?
16:03:27gevaertsbertrik: do you have an example?
16:03:43pixelmaI don't think you can establish a policy for that. It could be common to use that in the language too
16:03:44bertrikI think it makes the translation appear more complete than it really is
16:04:05pixelmanot everything differs from English
16:04:08bertrikgevaerts, http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11484 for example
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16:05:01bertrikfor example, "<Untagged>" is translated, but "Advanced Tone Control Settings" is not
16:05:43gevaertsMaybe just ask?
16:07:16pixelmaI'd ask about it. But you are correct to be carefull adding those, if they are not translated then adding them would make them not appear as a "still to be translated" phrase and might be forgotten
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16:10:29bertrikAre these literal english translations some kind of side-effect of rasher's translation page if the translator forgets to translate a text?
16:12:58rasherbertrik: well the same thing happens if you do it manually and accidentally skip a phrase
16:13:23rasherthe "problems" page lists these
16:14:37kugelok, r19146 definitely broke simulator defining DEBUG
16:14:50rasherbertrik: if it's obvious that they were accidents, I'd apply the patch, then delete the untranslated phrases from the resulting .lang
16:15:44bertrikrasher, I'll ask first and probably do that when I haven't received a reply in a week or so
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16:39:39bertrikRockbox translations are doing quite well now, with 22 translations having status "good" or "complete"
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17:01:42riadheh, I just tried out the Finnish translation. "Vapina"? Not that I can think of a better translation for "dithering" (even with the help of a dictionary), but I certainly couldn't tell what that option would do by the name alone
17:01:54riadI guess this is why I hate using stuff translated into my native tongue.
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17:26:41bertrikAlexP, in r24424 you committed a chinese-simp translation, but are you sure about the name of the author?
17:27:18bertrikYou credited him as Purling Yukie, but his flyspray name is Purling.Nayuki
17:30:10funmanthe AMSv2 SD controller has a 'Card Clock LP' bit for each card, I suppose LP is Low-Power
17:32:54bertrikJust guessing, but maybe this bit causes the clock towards the SD card to stop when there is no active communication
17:33:12funmanthat's my thought too, this bit is only set for newer fuzev2
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17:40:30funmannew fuzev2 also seems to have different button mapping
17:41:32bertriknoooooooooooooooo!
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17:42:49kugelfunman: fuzev3?
17:43:11funmansaratoga proposed fuzev2.5
17:43:21kugeltoo long
17:43:55pixelmav2+
17:46:11pamaurywhat is the firmware rev ?
17:46:55funman2.3.31 or newer
17:47:45pixelmado they use different USB PID/VID so the Rockbox Utility could tell them apart?
17:48:08funmanI don't know, but why would that be needed?
17:48:55funmanSandisk use the same firmware for all the fuzev2, we can do the same
17:49:25*bertrik agrees with funman
17:49:26pixelmamaybe jsut for the info then
17:49:31pixelma*just
17:50:05pixelmasorry, I thought for a second that it'll need a different install procedure or a different build
17:50:34funmanUSB ids seem to be the same
17:53:09bertrikfunman, do you know how you can detect whether a fuze v2 is the old or the new one?
17:53:52funmanyes, if you need to use mkamsboot from svn it's the new one
17:54:22funmansimpler: if you can't downgrade OF below 2.3.31. Also all the new Fuzev2 seem to have the same serial number
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18:20:23pixelmaare seven lines added to the comment ok for a merely 3 line change in the code? It adds some info that could have been there before even without the change though
18:20:59funmandepends what the comment says
18:21:22funmanif it's useful info which can't be shortened then it can fill a full page, no problem
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18:26:27pixelmathat's the diff: http://pastebin.com/axEX0fir
18:27:33funmanpixelma: go for it
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18:29:27pixelmaok, thanks for your opinion :)
18:43:07funmanbertrik: ah FlynDice already set the LP bits in r25936
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19:01:52ELMHello I have a sansa e260R that I already have rockbox on, I am trying to upgrade it. Do I need to do all the steps I did before, or can I just do step 9 onwards from http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaE200RInstallationFromWindows (unzip the new rockbox build)?
19:03:40CIA-6New commit by 03pixelma (r27472): Oops, r27471 only contained the delete part of the 'svn rename' - commit the second part and actually add the screenshots (again :\ )
19:05:20funmanELM: check the manual, it should be explained in a simpler way
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19:11:02CIA-6New commit by 03pixelma (r27473): Set \specimg to sansaclipplus again for the Clip+ so that it uses the correct player image (screenshots will still be correct due to \seriesimg - ...
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19:16:11funmanFlynDice: I'll have some questions for you about AMSv2 SD (the cards are used a bit differently in some newer Fuzev2)
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19:17:20pixelmathat should have been 11480, damnit
19:18:03pixelmaand one of the "r"s is wrong too :\
19:19:06pixelmaand no means (server side) to edit commit messages yet, afaik
19:19:25funmanjust require a swede to change an option no?
19:20:28funmanhttp://subversion.apache.org/faq.html#change-log-msg explains how to enable the needed pre-revprop-change hook
19:23:00funmanpixelma: which button description is wrong ? (FS #11480)
19:23:37pixelmaeverything that differs from the "usual" Clip's button mapping
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19:24:14pixelmae.g. what mc2739 mentioned - Home+Select twice in the WPS key controls button table
19:24:17funmani mean in which section of the manual, 3.1.1 The player's controls looks ok
19:24:49pixelmaat least I *assume* the the same thing is not mapped twice
19:25:08pixelmaerr... the same mapping is used for two different things
19:25:29*pixelma should take a break or have another coffee or so :/
19:25:46funmanor both: a break with a coffee ;)
19:27:18pixelmaindeed
19:28:13funmanHome + Select is both: return to wps, and softlock
19:28:28pixelmareturn to WPS doesn't matter
19:29:19pixelmain the WPS button table it says Home+Select would also be Play/Pause
19:30:02CIA-6New commit by 03funman (r27474): manual: Play/Pause button for Clip keymap is 'Play' ...
19:30:34pixelmaaha, so there are no differences in the keymaps?
19:30:53funmanno, except an additional combination for softhold
19:31:15pixelmaok, sorry for assumptions then :\
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19:32:28pixelmathen the bug report can be closed because the softhold will not appear in the other Clips' manuals because it is excluded for all targets that have the hold switch
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19:34:01funmandid that too ;)
19:35:04*FlynDice apologizes for being out of touch for awhile and warns funman against expectations leading to disappointment.... But I will try my best ;)
19:35:42funmanFlynDice: hello! :)
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19:37:01funmanwell i think i should describe my findings and symptoms because i don't have a precise question to ask ..
19:37:25FlynDicesure
19:37:58funmanthe new fuzev2 only clears/set the bit 1 of MCI_PWREN afaict
19:38:27pixelmafunman: a little digging in the SVN history could have pointed the problem that I fixed now earlier. The one I actually meant - r27091 - was changing \specimg back to sansaclip to use the screenshots, it reverted the change in r25344 which was to use the Clip+ player images
19:38:40funmanand always sets the bit 16 in send_cmd (which indicates card 1, which is used for µSD on other fuzev2/clip+)
19:39:18funmani'm not sure what this means for µSD but for now i'm trying to get internal storage working (for the bootloader)
19:40:09funmanah, i have a precise question: any reason why you enable the LP bits of CLKENA only after card init? the new fuzev2 OF seems to do that at init, at the same time than enabling the cards
19:42:31funmanfor now all I can get is response timeout, so i have some work to do in send_cmd() / init_controller()
19:44:14FlynDiceI think when I tried enabling them before init it didn't work, the cards wouldn't init properly iirc. I'm not smart enough to figure out exactly what the OF did but I did see that it used these bits in several functions so tried them out.
19:44:42funmanhmm ok, do you remember the symptom if you set them too early? perhaps that could give me a hint
19:45:03FlynDiceThere was also the mention of a low power mode in one of the "briefs" I found and I figured that this was some type of low power bit
19:45:29FlynDiceI don't remember what happened, just failure....
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19:58:17FlynDicefunman: In looking at the clip+ disassembly that I was using there's a function that sets the LP bits using the card pattern derived from MCI_HCON which would be both cards not just the uSD if that helps at all?
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20:06:42FlynDiceIs widebus still causing problems with amsv1 internal sd writes?
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20:11:18funmanFlynDice: yeah i think this 'pattern' is the model variant, there seems to be 'newer Clip+' just like the 'newer fuzev2'
20:11:38funmanFlynDice: yep but lowering the speed to 12.5MHz seems to help
20:13:51funmanbor_ka posted a description in the forum
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20:14:45funmanwhen this is fixed in svn, we could release new bootloader for AMSv1, and then a new mkamsboot which doesn't dualboot on USB plug but only on button press
20:16:36FlynDiceI was thinking HCON was short for hardware configuration for the number of sd's, that hypothesis seemed to be consistent with the code in the linux patch and the OF disassembly, are you saying it seems to be different with the new fuze variant?
20:18:39funmannot exactly, because the number of cards extract from HCON is used in CLKENA
20:19:00funmani spent only a day on this so i might have read it wrong of course
20:19:56funmanhttp://pastie.org/1048669 < here is my current diff if it makes sense
20:26:33FlynDiceIn MCI_COMMAND = .... /*b20:16 */ you seem to set 1<<16 which I don't think sounds right, that's the LP bit not the card, but you may have a reason?
20:27:27funmanin MCI_COMMAND that's the card bit, LP bit is in CLKENA
20:27:33funmanand the reason is 'OF does it'
20:27:50funmanperhaps not for all commands though, I need to double check this
20:29:42funmanFlynDice: which clip+ OF are you disassembling? 1.02.09 ?
20:29:49FlynDiceI think for MCI_CMD you don't want the <<16
20:30:11FlynDiceIt's the first update that was released
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20:30:27funmanthat's the one
20:31:02funmansee sub_4294
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20:31:26funmanfor cmd5 (dunno what it is but we don't use it in rockbox)
20:31:53funmandepending on what's in byte 213CD the MCI_COMMAND is orr'd with card_num << 16, OR 1 <<16
20:32:31FlynDiceis 4294 thumb or regular arm?
20:32:40funmanARM
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20:33:35funmanit's in the table at 0x8D7C : { int cmd; void *cmd_prepare_func; void *resp_handler_func; // not too sure about this last one }
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20:34:45funmanthis byte (0x213CD) also seems to affect the OF version check in firmware upgrade, like the fuzev2
20:35:14funmanso far there was a report of Clip+ not upgrading with patched firmware on the forum but the guy didn't confirm if mkamsboot from svn performed the upgrade or not
20:36:13FlynDicehmm I recognize that byte.... I'll be a bit of time looking....
20:37:42funmanit's used in OF upgrade in usb_functio (loaded at 0x302fbada), see the 'V' '0' '1' '.' a few lines below
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20:44:45funmanit's funny that the Clip+ OF (depending on the 'model') checks if the to-be-patched-OF is >= 01.02.09, as Sandisk didn't release earlier firmwares
20:45:18funmanFlynDice: if you want to spend time on this, I can send you the fuzev2
20:47:25FlynDicefunman: That wouldn't be a good idea, I've got next to no spare time now unfortunately, I just happen to have an hour or so right now to "play"....
20:47:38funmanthat was the right hour then ;)
20:47:50FlynDiceI hope so!
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21:02:01funmanFlynDice: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=25184.msg169221#msg169221
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21:09:00FlynDicefunman: thx I believe 0x213CD holds the info for which drive is being addressed, and I think 0 is used for the internal and 2 is used for the uSD, I'm still working on tracking down the 2 reference though.
21:09:45funmanhmm could be that, in fuzev2 this byte is set to the value of GPIOB_PIN5
21:10:08funmani've seen it set only at initialization though
21:12:15FlynDiceadressed was not a good choice of words there, manipulated is a better one...
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21:29:36FlynDicefunman: Time's up for me now but I will try to look at this over the next few days when I can squeeze it in.
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21:50:18funmankugel: you want to work on the new fuzev2?
21:50:40kugelnot really. not until gsoc is over anyway
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22:03:43funmanbertrik: are you interested?
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22:18:19bertrikfunman, yes, but I think you're much better at it than I am, especially the SD card stuff
22:19:32bertrikthe new fuze v2 isn't too different from the old fuze v2 I hope
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23:46:43phazeidoes rockbox have the ability to rate songs?
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