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#rockbox log for 2010-08-14

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00:00:10*toffe82 can provide some cross.... he thinks he still have some in stock....
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00:50:08leBMDSo, I've got the Rockbox installer open and I'm configuring it, but my mp3 player doesn't have a letter.
00:50:08leBMDit's shown on My Computer, but without a letter.
00:51:52leBMDoh, there it goes.
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00:54:50leBMDO_o My firmware on OF says version 2, but the utility will only let me click buttons if I say it's fuze v1
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00:55:33leBMDV.02.02.26A
00:56:56leBMDShould I not choose one of the quick start buttons, then?
00:58:17leBMDoh, I see. Fuze v2 is an unstable port
00:58:24leBMDso I have to do this stuff one step at a time.
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01:05:51leBMDWhen I get the OF, does it have to be the SAME EXACT version as the one I have now, or can I use an updated one?
01:08:12leBMDmt, would you know?
01:10:42leBMDEh, whatever, I just got my version.
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01:17:32leBMDoh man, the magic is happening.
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01:21:42leBMD"firmware upgrade in progress"
01:21:49Strife89:)
01:21:51leBMD:D:D:D
01:22:57leBMDhaha, chex quest on my mp3 player.
01:24:03leBMDlife = made.
01:24:05leBMDThanks, guys!
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02:35:08saratogahow do I do a case insensitive compare in a metadata parser?
02:36:03saratoga"FS #11536 - m4a files won't play" is arguably our fault for doing a case sensitive compare
02:37:48saratogahuh the code just packs the chars and does a 32 bit integer compare
02:41:05saratogaI guess i'll just add "M4A " and leave the compares case sensitive
02:49:16saratogaugh so fixing the compare in rockbox causes playback to deadlock, but fixing the file to be lower case makes it play fine
02:49:41soaaThat's odd.
02:51:05soaaI was wondering, will FS #10906 ever be committed? It improves accuracy without any significant impact on battery life. At least, for the Clip+.
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02:54:39saratogait should probably be committed
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02:54:49saratogaask funman or someone else who worked on it to commit
02:58:43soaaHow do I ask?
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03:00:25saratogabug him the next time hes on IRC
03:04:22saratogaah libm4a also double checks that value ...
03:06:45soaaAh kk, I shall remember that.
03:09:49CIA-9New commit by 03saratoga (r27805): Add uppercase M4A file type to the mp4 parser. Technically Apple says to use lowercase, but various programs tolerate this, so we can too. Fixes ...
03:11:17saratogahuh status bar is screwy on the clipv2 right now
03:12:07CIA-9r27805 build result: All green
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03:30:48saratogaopps messed up that commit message
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07:47:37S_a_i_n_tkugel: Thankyou kindly for fixing up the backdrop issue in the .sbs, I'm going to start the Android/RaaA icons quite shortly...sorry for the delay, I've had quite a lot on my plate with IRL stuff.
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09:28:03CIA-9New commit by 03pixelma (r27806): The 128x96x2 cabbiev2.wps (Iaudio remote and M3) used more than one viewport but drew the progressbar in the default one where it wouldn't be updated ...
09:29:34CIA-9r27806 build result: 66 errors, 0 warnings (pixelma committed)
09:31:24bertrikhm, the old asmdefs header file problem again ...
09:31:26*pixelma curses roolku's n14 and n17 build clients
09:32:13Strife89http://pastebin.com/X0cU5CmJ
09:33:14Strife89^ From a discussion on .zip vs. .7z for the themes site.
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09:39:00Strife89Any thoughts on the idea?
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09:52:03scorcheStrife89: why would we bother with offering so many compressed options?
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09:57:35pixelmazip is fine even if it doesn't compress as well as 7zip - but it is widely spread and the Rockbox Utility comes with an unzip already if I'm not mistaken
09:58:41pixelmaand I don't think it makes a big difference in file size for one who downloads themes, you wouldn't download all themes usually
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10:01:34scorcheexactly...i cant think of a good reeason why .zip isnt good enough
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10:28:19amiconnTorne: The manifest was meant as an intermediate solution, until someone figures out how to request admin privileges at runtime when needed
10:28:38amiconn(without sacrificing XP compatibility)
10:32:23amiconnmt: Is the comparison in here http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi/trunk/apps/codecs/libasf/asf.c?r1=27799&r2=27800&pathrev=27800&diff_format=l really correct?
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11:15:55S_a_i_n_tJdGordon: I'm wondering what it is that makes those few skins in the debug screen not accept the .sbs
11:16:17JdGordonmostly lazyness to make sure they will resize correctly
11:17:00S_a_i_n_tAha, I see. Well, if you get bored :P
11:17:09JdGordonNot. A. Chance! :)
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11:17:43JdGordonthings I want to work on > Things I should work on > things I've been asked to fix > others...
11:17:44JdGordon:)
11:17:50*S_a_i_n_t thinks about the ammount of times JdGordon has said this to one of his suggestions and then later implemented it ;)
11:18:00JdGordonplus some real life time in there also
11:18:05S_a_i_n_tI think it's roughly...2 now.
11:22:09JdGordonwell, release time usually brings up the topic of removing that menu anyway
11:22:16JdGordonso no real point speding any time in there
11:22:45JdGordonmind you, I did accidently get into them with stylus mode enalbed and couldnt get out without hard reset :)
11:23:01*S_a_i_n_t wonders what happened to taking the themes (other than cabbieV2) out of the releases
11:23:46S_a_i_n_tStephen_ finished transferring the themes as far as I know.
11:24:17pixelmaJdGordon: did you test compile a manual before the commit? Just asking because I'm curious about something if you did and promise not to comment on if you didn't
11:25:24JdGordonare they all on the theme siter yet?
11:26:08pixelmathe Player one isn't ;)
11:26:58Torneamiconn: right, but it sounds from MSDN like it'd be better to do it with highestAvailable..
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11:37:57mtamiconn: hmm, maybe not .. should check for this instead : (bufsize != length && length >= 32k ).
11:40:02S_a_i_n_tpixelma: Sorry, I was under the impression Stephen_ had finished the job, I believe he was as well.
11:40:20S_a_i_n_t(re: Themes on the ThemeSite)
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11:46:10pixelmahmm. I'm not sure if the Player screenshot problem was fixed on the theme site (it expected 11x2 pixels big bitmaps IIRC...)
11:49:11CIA-9New commit by 03mt (r27807): Correct the check for the requested vs returned sizes in libasf.
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12:01:20CIA-9New commit by 03pixelma (r27808): Correct the ActionTreeWps in the Clips' keymap file (button combo for going to the WPS).
12:02:51CIA-9r27808 build result: All green
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12:30:45CIA-9New commit by 03pixelma (r27809): Manual: some cosmetic changes in phrasing as well as code... fix typos and RAS syndrome, correct use of dap{} and {daps}.
12:31:21pixelmatypo in commit message, oh well...
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12:43:36CIA-9New commit by 03pixelma (r27810): Manual - wormlet.tex: remove 'opt'ing for different player pads inside a Recorder pad only block. Simplify and complete the other players' button ...
12:45:05CIA-9r27810 build result: All green
12:48:28CIA-9New commit by 03pixelma (r27811): Manual - logo and pegbox button tables: simplify the code and add missing info.
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13:13:29glennph93hi all -i'm in need of some help
13:14:04n1sglennph93: it's a lot easier to help if we know what the problem is :)
13:16:13glennph93sure.. I installed rockbox on my sansa fuze v1 last night, works great except for it won't mount under ubuntu now
13:16:52n1sprobably that libgphoto2 bug
13:16:55glennph93dmesg says unable to enumerate USB device on port 5
13:17:23gevaerts_n1s: I suspect not actually
13:17:27n1sno?
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13:17:33glennph93it mounted fine prior
13:17:51gevaerts_That would give a different error
13:17:52CIA-9New commit by 03jdgordon (r27812): Change %xd to allow for a number to be used to specify the subimage. i.e %xd(Ac) can now we written as %xd(A, 3). subimage count start at 1 so a=1, ...
13:17:55n1sglennph93: if it's in msc mode in the original firmware, does it mount correctly under ubuntu?
13:18:07glennph93tried both
13:19:03pixelmaunneeded redundancy++ :(
13:19:23CIA-9r27812 build result: All green
13:19:53glennph93nls: it doesn't seem to give enough time for ubuntu to mount it
13:20:23pixelmadoes the Fuze v1 have Rockbox USB already?
13:20:44n1sglennph93: hmm, my fuzev1 works fine with debian
13:20:49n1spixelma: yup
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13:21:13*n1s hands this one off to gevaerts −−- the resident usb wizard
13:21:30pixelmaglennph93: maybe it has problems with USB HID, you could try turning this off
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13:21:46gevaertsn1s: this looks like a driver issue. I know nothing about that!
13:21:56glennph93nls: maybe ubuntu thing I'll try another os and i'll get bak
13:22:24glennph93how do you turn off hid
13:22:47pixelmaI mean turning USB HID in Rockbox... somewhere in General Settings > System IIRC
13:22:59n1sgevaerts: could something like a too slow (too long delays?) usb driver on the rockbox side cause the host to give up?
13:24:05gevaertsn1s: sure, but you're not talking about milliseconds then I'd say
13:24:34glennph93nls: that's what it seems like
13:24:51pixelmanow we have to suffer from code complication and bloat because one person can't deal with a simple letter as image identifier :(
13:25:24pixelmaI really try hard to stay civilized but
13:26:58n1sgevaerts: that's weird then, my fuzev1 goes from cable connect to mounted in, i'd say, less than 2seconds
13:27:18glennph93ok guys thanks for the help -good place to start I might be back
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13:27:44n1sglennph93: since it works in the OF it sounds like something we would want to fix
13:28:26pixelmaI am still curious if turning HID off helped
13:29:14glennph93nls: it doesn't work in the OF.
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13:31:44n1sglennph93: oh, i misread your reply then, but that sounds like either (more likely) an ubuntu issue or an issue with your fuze
13:32:41glennph93nls: thanks for the help -i'll try some other os
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13:40:23CIA-9New commit by 03jdgordon (r27813): Change %xl/%xd to use proper labels instead of single letter labels. i.e %xl(playmode, playmode.bmp, 0, 0, 4) ... %xd(playmode, %mm). You can of ...
13:41:57CIA-9r27813 build result: All green
13:44:25S_a_i_n_twhy does using a number need %xd(A,1) as opposed to %xd(A1)?
13:44:29S_a_i_n_tIt looks weird.
13:44:54JdGordondifferent != wierd
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13:45:22JdGordonand you ignored the commit I just did
13:45:35pixelmait's *nice* to see JdGordon implementing all the things he was the only one who wanted it - and only got opposition to when discussing here.
13:46:03pixelmano prior discussion on the ml either...
13:46:13S_a_i_n_tHow did I ignore the commit you just did?
13:46:21S_a_i_n_tI can see the "old way" can still be done.
13:46:31S_a_i_n_tI'm just wondering why it is different
13:46:55JdGordonS_a_i_n_t: the number maybe only makes sense if you want to use a full label for the image
13:47:02pixelmathe last point could justify reverst
13:47:06pixelmareverts too
13:47:36JdGordonpixelma: shutup. I wrote at least 50% of the skin code now.. I tihnk I have just a bit more say to what happens there
13:47:44S_a_i_n_tJdGordon: Not necessarily, I could see %xd(A1) making some sense.
13:48:05gevaertsJdGordon: are you serious?
13:48:12S_a_i_n_tJdGordon: I don;t think that is the way it works man.
13:48:18JdGordonS_a_i_n_t: ewxcept there is no way to make the parser fail if you get that wrong
13:48:36*gevaerts sometimes thinks that we should have a procedure for revoking commit access
13:48:53S_a_i_n_tIf people abuse it, yeah.
13:49:32pixelmaif it wouldn't give so much bad blood
13:50:14pixelmawhich is already there though it seems
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14:10:35glennph93nls: just wanted to tell you it mounts fine in windows -it must be a ubuntu thing after the updated OF
14:11:48FlynDiceglennph93: Make sure it's in msc mode and not auto for usb
14:11:54n1sglennph93: ah
14:12:58glennph93FlynDice: just tried both
14:13:06FlynDicein the OF that is, when you install rockbox the OF sees it as having done a firmware upgrade and resets all of your OF settings
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14:15:44glennph93I'll try figuring it out in ubuntu
14:19:20tmztglennph93: I can help you, I need you to put it in msc mode and pastebin.com lsusb -v -v
14:19:44tmztand also explain the symptoms
14:20:12glennph93tmzt: ok give me a minute
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14:21:21glennph93tmzt: mounts fine in windows- dmesg=unable to enumerate USB device on port 5
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14:22:05tmzt-110?
14:22:20tmztokay, dmesg | tail -n 20 into the pastebin
14:22:32tmztif you can, do a dmesg -c and plug replug first
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14:24:22glennph93tmzt: http://pastebin.com/33H3UM62
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14:25:04tmztit's not there at all, please paste that dmesg as well
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14:27:36glennph93tmzt: http://pastebin.com/qENEMVmk I was unable to dmeg -c
14:27:56tmztyou have to be root
14:27:59tmztto do that
14:28:05glennph93ok
14:30:19glennph93tmzt: http://pastebin.com/PzdUG0H0
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14:43:33glennph93tmzt: that's weird after i cleared the dmesg and reconneted a second time it mounted
14:44:05glennph93[sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk
14:44:46tmztok
14:44:55tmztsee if it fully enumerates, usb can be like that
14:45:10tmztby brower crashed and I haven't looked at your paste yet
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14:47:59glennph93tmzt: adding music through rhythmbox now -"writing" on screen
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15:09:27glennph93tmzt: seems to work?? now... I've got to go thanks
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15:45:01dennis-pAutomatic shutdown always 7 seconds after start on e260. I just installed rockbox on 4GB e260 and it always shuts down after 7 seconds, replaced the 3.6 firmware with daily beta but that does the same.
15:47:04dennis-pStrange thing: a completly cold e260 may run perfecly for 15 seconds, but the next power ups always drop again after 7 seconds.
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15:48:55dennis-pThe Sandisk firmware runs just fine (pressing left on the e260 at startup to boot Sansa firmware instead of rockbox) for as long as one wants.
15:50:13dennis-pany suggestions what to do?
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15:55:02rhodanRB didn't save my recording.
15:55:06rhodanHow do I restore it.
15:55:07rhodan?
15:55:47Soap-N810When you say "automatic shutdown" I presume you mean due to a supposedly low battery?
15:57:45rhodanNo, I plugged in the data cable after I finished the recording.
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15:58:44Soap-N810sorry for being unclear, rhodan, I was asking dennis-p
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16:27:20S_a_i_n_trhodan: If RB didn't save your recording, I don't think you *can* restore it.
16:27:46S_a_i_n_tI'm not 100%, but, I'm pretty sure whatever you recorded is gone.
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16:33:14dennis-pSoap-N810: thanks, it also shuts down after 7s when attached to usb. battery seems full on sansa and rockbox.
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16:37:37Soap-N810dennis-p, does the player shut down after said 7s if you are actively manipulating buttons / scroll wheel?
16:39:38dennis-pyes it will also shut down in the middle of a game if i can start a game in time
16:41:38dennis-pSoap-N810: it shuts down 7 seconds from being fully loaded no matter where i navigate to or whether i do nothing
16:42:01dennis-pit has no song on it.
16:42:14dennis-pit has zero songs on it.
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16:42:37Soap-N810hmm
16:43:04dennis-pso, its a weird never heard of thing?
16:43:08Soap-N810and the battery is not reading "low"?
16:44:10dennis-pno it reads full and sansa software will not shut down
16:44:52Soap-N810grr
16:45:57dennis-pI connected it under snsa to load it fully, the sansa logo stopped howing the charging icon after a while but rockbox always shutsdown after 7 s
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16:47:06dennis-pperhaps i should try an older version than 3.6?
16:48:23dennis-pbut i don't know hwere the e200 software olderversion are stored for manual archive.
16:49:21Soap-N810The only suggestion I have, and it is a rather weak one, is to do a clean install (any version, as I don't believe that is the problem) by deleting the .rockbox directory to ensure nothing is fouled up in there which isn't being overwritten by a standard install.
16:51:02dennis-pok perhaps a corrupt disk, yes that could be it as i got the player after complaints that some numbers started to skip.
16:52:10Soap-N810then i'd error-check the disk before the aforementioned clean reinstall.
16:53:24dennis-poh no i did do a complete overwrite of that folder as i installed the daily manualy
16:53:25Soap-N810Though, I'll admit I'm grasping at straws. I'd stay on IRC and await more informed responses, I've been absent for a while and may not be aware of recent issues.
16:54:46Soap-N810If by "complete overwrite" you mean copying one folder over another that merges, and non-distributed files such as your .cfg did not get replaced.
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16:57:23dennis-pah yes, anyway found the runtime status this time it says 50s before shutdown
16:58:12dennis-p27 s this time
16:59:45dennis-pit did go to sleep just before the 50 sec time woke up when fully down.
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17:00:48dennis-pit hanged 3 seconds on 25 sec before shutdown
17:01:00dennis-pso i think it crashes
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17:06:32dennis-pSoap-N810: can i erase the .rockbox folder or should i uninstall the bootloader first?
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17:08:27dennis-pI'll uninstall it first
17:08:34mc2739dennis-p: just erase the .rockbox
17:08:42dennis-pok
17:08:48mc2739no need to mess with the bootloader
17:11:18dennis-pwill the bootloader be destroyed if i try out the reset (format) suggestions on sansa forums? I tried a few before installing rockbox so i hoped the player would be in a clean state before installing rockbox.
17:12:43mc2739I don't think formatting will mess up the bootloader, but I may be wrong
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17:19:33CIA-9r27814 build result: 275 errors, 74 warnings (jdgordon committed)
17:20:55gevaertsThat's a weird set of results
17:22:12gevaertsAh, radio
17:22:32JdGordonand of course the one target I was building for is green :p
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17:23:09CIA-9New commit by 03jdgordon (r27815): fix warnings and errors
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17:26:53gevaertsJdGordon: so now it gets metadata from the buffer if it's loaded already, and if not it tries the database?
17:27:27JdGordonthat was actually added a while ago (as a possible fix for the really weird playlist bug)
17:27:48CIA-9New commit by 03jdgordon (r27816): last warning and fix manual
17:28:17gevaertsIf you're going to add more and more stuff that works better if the database is there, we're going to have to make sure the database works well...
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17:28:53JdGordon:) go for it
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17:29:10JdGordonthat really is one thing I'm not touching with a 10 foot barge pole
17:29:22CIA-9r27816 build result: 0 errors, 2 warnings (jdgordon committed)
17:29:30JdGordonoh bugger off!
17:29:46dennis-perasing .rockbox and moving in a new 3.6 one did not work, it still shuts down after 13 seconds automatically on this e260.
17:29:59gevaertsJdGordon: you only removed the prototype
17:30:39JdGordonah right, misread the warning first time
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17:31:15CIA-9New commit by 03jdgordon (r27817): *really* fix the last warning
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17:34:26stripwaxspeaking of database.. any tips on how to debug a Data Abort that occurs when committing database on my ipod, and seems to be totally reproducible (I have a backup of the database_xxxx.tds files that cause it) but doesn't seem to be reproducible on ipod sim?
17:35:02stripwaxalso.. unrelated, but any chance there'll be a recent crosscompiler gcc build up on download.rockbox.org/cygwin ?
17:35:45JdGordonfind an arm board that you can run the sim on :) data abort means unaligned access... maybe its a broken file?
17:35:50soapbugger, dennis-p , I'm out of ideas.
17:36:20soapdid you try searching the forums? I can't think of a comparable thread off the top of my head, but one might exist.
17:36:53dennis-pdidn't find anything.
17:38:13dennis-pwhere can i find older releases of e200 rockbox zips?
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17:43:15mc2739dennis-p: how long will your e200 run before shutting off with th OF?
17:43:15JdGordonbieber: AAARRRR C++ sucks :p
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17:44:19dennis-pmc2739: with the normal sansa software it does not shut down
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17:44:49mc2739ever?
17:45:04dennis-pyou think the battery maybe dead?
17:45:53mc2739if not dead, then on the way. the sansa firmware may have a lower threshold for low battery shutdown.
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17:47:29dennis-pmc2739: ah, but rockbox also shuts down 15 seconds after boot when connected via usb
17:49:24stripwaxdoes it say anything on the screen when shutting down?
17:51:01dennis-pno
17:51:44stripwaxit's definitely not just the screen turning off?
17:51:59stripwaxsorry if that sounded patronising
17:52:11JdGordonbieber: that last change probably will make the themeditor crash with a %Vp tag... http://pastebin.com/x0Zgx4Zr should fix it but it says it fails to parse without the 2rd param? am I missing something?
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17:53:51dennis-pwhen i tiptouch power after autoshutdown it boots the bootloader immidatly so yeah i think its been shut down
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17:55:48dennis-pbut its okay to ask anything as i am new to rockbox :-)
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17:57:15stripwaxdennis-p - that is indeed really weird .. not something I've seen/heard of before with rockbox unfortunately..
17:57:25dennis-pI'll throw on some mp3's and see how long it plays on sansa firmware.
17:57:33mc2739dennis-p: if you have a small screwdriver you might try removing the four screws on the back of your e200 and remove the battery. then try plugging in the usb cable to see what happens
17:58:46dennis-poh cool will it load rockbox over usb power? i'll try that as well, first the battery check.
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17:59:43mc2739yes, it will boot and run with usb power.
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18:02:29dennis-pmc2739: so, you can set rockbox to use an external USB batterypack in case the inside one is dead and still play songs?
18:03:55mc2739possibly, although not all usb chargers work
18:05:12dennis-pvery cool
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18:17:11dennis-plol, sorry to bothered you. The player was dropped on the pavement wearing nothing but a leather playsuit and the soundsystem is busted giving 3 clicks per second instead of sound.
18:19:05dennis-pThis player may have some hardware problems, ha ha
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18:31:24webguest05Hi there I'm trying deparately to put rockbox on my sansa clip+ but after trying everything I still cannot get rockbox top boot on the clip...I have version 1.02.15 OF loaded on the clip anyone have any ideas?
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18:32:32mc2739webguest05: are you using the RockboxUtility to install?
18:32:57webguest05hi there..... yes!....is there a know problem?
18:34:56mc2739yes, some newer versions of the clip+ are not yet supported by the current RockboxUtility. Try following the manual instructions for the bootloader only listed on this wiki page: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaAMS
18:35:47webguest05the utility seem to install everything OK but the clip just boots back into sansa OF
18:36:43mc2739correct - there is a new bootloader and patching tool to fix that problem
18:37:02webguest05many thanks I'll give it a go.....is the rockbox utility likely to be able to accomodate this newer sansa firmware in the furture?
18:37:32mc2739yes, probably with the next release of the utility
18:41:11webguest05many thanks for your help....PS do you think that rockbox will be fully stable on the clip+ in the next version?
18:42:58mc2739there has been some talk of it, though it depends on whether the developers for that model feel it is ready.
18:46:17webguest05OK...thanks again......if this RB install is not to my liking can I simply uninstall and revert back to the OF?
18:49:11mc2739yes just put an unpatched firmware upgrade in the root folder of your clip+. when the upgrade completes, you can connect in msc mode and remove the .rockbox folder
18:54:32webguest05really sorry but when you say unpatched do you mean for e.g the latest firmware from sandisk for the clip+
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18:55:46mc2739the latest, or whichever you used to patch with the rockbox bootloader
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18:58:06webguest05OK thanks
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19:08:16webguest05sorry...one more question about the manual install process......at the point where I am running the cmd prompt the command line Iine I'm supposed to use is base on 'mkamsboot.exe fuzea.bin bootloader-fuze.bin patched.bin' and I replace the bootloader and OF file with the ones I've downloaded.....
19:08:57webguest05the problem is that the bootloader ends in a .sansa extenion not .bin
19:12:00dfktwebguest05, that's not the bootloader, jsut the source for it
19:12:13dfkthere's a bootloader you can simply unzip and put on your player: dfkt/sansa_clip/rockbox/v3.0-bootloader-sansaclipplus-01.02.15-dual_boot.zip">http://anythingbutipod.com/images/forum/dfkt/sansa_clip/rockbox/v3.0-bootloader-sansaclipplus-01.02.15-dual_boot.zip
19:13:36S_a_i_n_tstripwax: What's the exact path to the toolchains in CygWin? If its arm-eabi you want I can archive it for you.
19:14:57S_a_i_n_tis it just user/local/arm-elf-eabi? seems kinda small.
19:16:00S_a_i_n_tshitty connection and not knowing what to include/disinclude has stopped me doing so already.
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19:26:09mc2739webguest05: there was a typo in the instuctions - .bin should have been .sansa - the insructions have been updated.
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20:56:15stripwaxS_a_i_n_t : - not sure of the path (as the one on download.rockbox.org was the non-eabi version)
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22:42:21scorcheStrife89: so what would be the point in offerring .7z and whatever other compressed formats you were mentioning on the theme site?
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23:24:59amiconnstripwax: The chance of seeing cygwin 1.7 packages of the crosscompilers depends on people knowing how to package things for cygwin
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23:25:54*amiconn does have all the crosscompilers, but nfi how to turn them into packages
23:30:46Bagderiirc, there's just a few files you need to bundle with the binaries and its done
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23:53:21stripwaxamiconn - no worries. it seems to take about two hours to build, not sure if that's normal, but if it is I'll just continue to sit tight...
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