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#rockbox log for 2010-09-12

00:00:17docgnomeany ideas on how to make it order the files properly? this is in the database when it mixes them up
00:00:20Torneyou need to set the disc number in the tags
00:01:17docgnomeK. Odd that it wasn't set on the mp3s and they seems to work off that other tag
00:02:00Tornethose mp3s presumanly have a disc number ser
00:02:25Torne"part of a set" is not a id3 field
00:02:35docgnometagtool doesn't show it to me.
00:03:33Torneperhaps it's wrong?
00:03:44docgnomeyeah. I begin to suspect that
00:03:50Tornerockbox must be using something to display them in order
00:03:52docgnomeit's kind of a rudimentary tool anyway
00:03:53docgnomeyar
00:04:03Torneeither the tracks are renumbered or the disc number is set
00:04:10Tornethere's nothing else it uses
00:04:37Torneno idea what "part of a set" actually corresponds to in id3
00:05:00Torneit doesn't sound like it conveys useful info: surely you'd need to know which part :)
00:10:43docgnomewell it's
00:10:47docgnomepart of a set: 1/2
00:11:05docgnomei think tagtool was interpretting the cd number as "part of a set" or something
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00:12:34Torneright, so that's the disc number
00:12:45Torneit's just calling it something weird
00:15:08docgnomeyeah. gonna use easytag heh cause it actually figures it out correctly
00:15:16docgnomeand can bulk set tags
00:15:22docgnometagtool can only sorta do that
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05:27:17mroth-how would rockbox work with my nissian ipod player cable thing
05:27:18mroth-and radi
05:27:19mroth-o
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10:06:22bluebrotheranyone subscribed to the users ML want to point the guy having issues with Rockbox Utility voice file creation on Fuzev2 to FS #11496?
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11:50:51CIA-81New commit by 03kugel (r28060): Android: Fix a problem where entered Rockbox multiple times (with multiple instances on the activity stack) until it was exited once with the back ...
11:51:07kugelIstván Nagy wrote me a mail in private, providing both fixes
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12:04:24ep0chHi, I don't suppose someone could make a recent build of rockbox for android available?
12:06:31ep0chi'd do it myself but i'm having trouble with vmware on win2008
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12:29:20ep0choh never mind i have managed to install vmware on my
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15:41:35*domonoky looks at gevaerts mail and notices there is a commiter with only first name in docs/commiter ?? how did that happen ?
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15:54:31kugeldomonoky: who?
15:54:45domonokysomeone named "Andy"
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15:55:20kugelprobably from the old cvs days
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16:00:01domonokykugel: true, its from the first commit of docs/COMMITERS
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17:37:10kugeldoes anyone know if the double-colon feature of gnu make is a gnu make extension?
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17:40:35pamauryfunman: does it changes something ?
17:40:38funmankugel: if you run debian, pmake is the make from netbsd so it should help you
17:40:56funmanpamaury: the commit log tells it: no
17:41:27funmanthe fact that it fails at the beginning or never suggests that the problem is at initialization though
17:41:37kugelheh, pmake craps out completely
17:42:38kugelit doesn't work with the export lines in the generated Makefile, apparently
17:42:42pamauryfunman: I partly agree, but only partly because I tried to call usb_drv_exit and usb_drv_init every 3 resets to see if it does something and it doesn't. So there is something with the fact that you physically connect/disconnect it
17:43:20pamauryUnfortunately, I don't know of a way to physically touch vbus
17:45:08pamauryIf I have time tonight, I'll try to dump some parameters of the phy so see if there is a difference when it fails
17:45:09funmani looked at as3543 regs but didn't see
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18:00:17domijhello everyone i got a small question, is it safe to rockbox sansa fuze v2?
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19:07:55shuffle2sooo didn't work first try ;p
19:08:16shuffle2need to debug i guess...how can i properly output text to the screen?
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19:31:50pamaurythe best way is logf
19:33:14pamauryyou logf some text and go into debug menu>show logf. You need to enable logf with the configure script though and #define LOGF_ENABLE before #include <logf.h>
19:34:03pamauryalso in most low level files, there already are some logf statement, you just need to enable then by uncomment/adding #define LOGF_ENABLE, like in usb core and drivers
19:34:56mroth-hi
19:35:03mroth-anyone know of
19:35:16mroth-if rockbox works
19:35:25mroth-with nissian car radio
19:36:16bluebrotherRockbox runs on mp3 players, not car radios.
19:36:56bluebrotherIf you're referring to supporting connecting an Ipod to the car radio you might want to check the IpodAccessories wiki page
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19:38:24pamauryshuffle2: ^
19:40:49shuffle2oh...i thought logf was only for piping via usb?
19:41:23pamauryno, the main purpose is to output to a buffer, that you can either read on the screen and/or send via usb, or via a serial line on some devices
19:47:41CIA-81New commit by 03kugel (r28063): Android: Use an explicit 8k buffer for unzipping libmisc.so to remove a warning in logcat.
19:48:27CIA-81New commit by 03kugel (r28064): The rockbox header got lost at some point.
19:48:40CIA-81r28063 build result: All green
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20:24:45shuffle2pamaury i enabled logf in usb_core and can see that output fine...but i've enabled logf in the same way in my file, and it's not output to the screen. the same logs were output before, when i was using my hacky debug logging.
20:24:52shuffle2is there anything else to modify?
20:26:22pamaurydi you put #define LOGf_ENABLE ____BEFORE____ the #include "logf.h" ?
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20:26:58pamaurybecause you don't need to do anything apart from this.
20:27:19shuffle2yes
20:27:58pamauryhum, strange, can you pastebin the first lines of the #include + #define so I can see if something is strange ?
20:28:44shuffle2http://pastie.org/private/0it0hsay3en1bmnfeeq3eg
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20:29:08pamauryJust for fun, I tried to augment the usbserial driver to support CDC-ACM in a trivial way. It works fine under linux (I also realized that linux has a buggy driver) but under windows, it is not detected as a serial device, I don't know how it works
20:30:41pamauryStrange, it should work. Can you try to reconf and rebuild everything ? I can't see how could it fail
20:31:18solexxSince a few weeks ago, my Iriver crashes very often when starting playback. It just sits there with the "Loading..." screen and all I can do is do a hard reset.
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20:32:56solexxMy RAM image from Aug 8th still works fine, but versions from a few days later (always current SVN) show that behaviour.
20:33:30solexx(I have a CF card in my Iriver and thus can only boot from RAM or ROM.)
20:34:03solexxAny idea how I can debug this?
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20:41:02solexxStrange. It appears that first booting the old version (RAM image) and then executing th rockbox.irivr file temporarily "fixes" the problem, too.
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20:47:01shuffle2ok...so how i've done this is make a seperate "driver" to handle the low level stuff. and then there is a simple func that spins and progresses a state machine
20:47:27shuffle2i replaced the call that shows the "usb keypad" screen with a call to start the statemachine
20:47:53shuffle2if i'm in the "show log file" screen, the state machine will not be started
20:48:13shuffle2if i connect the usb cable while not in the show log file screen, the state machine IS started :/
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21:10:09webguest26Haven't used rockbox in a long while.Does 3.6 support using ipod in your car via the ipod adapater?
21:10:37pamauryshuffle2: that's "normal", the logf screen doesn't allow usb connection
21:11:15pamauryif you want to change this, tell me, I can hack something
21:12:34pamaurywebguest26: you should have a look at the ipod accessory wiki page, I think it has some info about this
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21:14:55webguest26pamaury ok thx it doesn't list my stuff on there, but I guess i'll just give it a whirl. Thx!
21:16:09pamauryyes, try it and then report this so we can update the list
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21:56:18CIA-81New commit by 03kugel (r28065): Code style changes in the java part (whitespaces and braces) to match Rockbox coding style.
21:57:53CIA-81r28065 build result: All green
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22:00:30CIA-81New commit by 03kugel (r28066): Redo r28059, minBufferSize() turned out a bit more unstable on my Legend. Now use the MAX() of the old buffer and minBufferSize()
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22:04:29nabogthere's a java port??
22:04:38nabogcan people run rockbox on an android phone or something?
22:05:39n1syes, there's an android port under development
22:05:40pamauryyes there is an android port going on, actually it's quite usable I think (kugel ?)
22:06:08n1sit's not a port to java though :) just using the necessary java bits for android
22:07:10nabogokay, cool
22:07:18nabogI'm gonna get an android phone soon, so that will be nice :D
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22:10:10CIA-81New commit by 03kugel (r28067): Adhere to the 80-char line width limit.
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22:37:04shuffle2pamaury any pointers to using threads in rockbox? (or really, how to avoid needing another one...)
22:37:30shuffle2at least sleep(0) allows other threads to process...but it doesn't help, since i'm starting my code from the usb_thread :P
22:44:43shuffle2well, just made it a thread. let's see if it even works... :P
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22:49:56pamauryshuffle2: I just saw your message but quassel crashed, what is your question about threading ?
22:50:38CIA-81New commit by 03kugel (r28068): The zip target isn't a good prerequisite for another make target so remove it. ...
22:50:42pamauryyou can create a thread using create_thread. rockbox uses cooperative thread so you want to either sleep() or yield() at some point
22:52:00CIA-81r28068 build result: All green
22:52:03shuffle2hm
22:52:10shuffle2usb traffic was looking pretty good
22:52:26shuffle2but then i got Prefetch abort, and rockbox died, heh
22:52:45shuffle2at deadbeee. i assume this is a magic value?
22:53:13pamauryhum, might be a stack overflow, I can't remember what is the use of deadbeef
22:53:57kugeldeadbeef is in a few places, it also acts as a stack guard. shuffle2, try to make your thread's stack bigger
22:54:34pamaurythe default stack is quite small actually iir
22:54:34shuffle2any recommended maximum? might as well just start high
22:54:35pamauryc
22:54:38kugelbut it would show "panic stkov" if rockbox detected a stack overflow so it might not help
22:54:46pamaurynot necessarily
22:55:03kugelshuffle2: DEFAULT_STACK_SIZE isn't sufficient?
22:55:10shuffle2that's what i'm using
22:55:19pamauryrockbox shows panic stkov after you yield or sleep because it manually do the check, but you can stkov and die even before :)
22:55:58shuffle2it is prefetch abort though, not stack overflow (?)
22:56:08shuffle2or can one cause the other
22:56:28pamaurystkov is a rockbox message, after you yield it checks if you stkov
22:56:37kugelIIRC prefetch abort is when you load code from an illegal address (i.e. unaligned address)
22:56:39pamauryon the other hand, prefetch abort is a hardware fault
22:57:14pamaurytypical example is if you buffer overflow and then return to a random address
22:57:23gevaertsMy guess would be stack corruption, not overflow
22:57:29kugeldeadbeee is clearly unaligned but I have no idea how it can happen
22:57:49gevaertsIf you overwrite the return pointer somehow, interesting things can happen
22:58:04pamauryyou should definitely check for buffer overflow ;)
22:58:56shuffle2can i make logf write to file on disk directly...so i have a better idea where to look?
22:59:29kugelflyspray, there's a patch for it somewhere
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23:00:11shuffle2yup, thanks
23:00:44pamauryiirc, the patch is much more complicated than necessary
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23:01:06pamauryyou can also dump the logf buffer to disk using the debug menu but that doesn't work if you die before !
23:07:34pixelmasolexx: which revision do you use exactly and which Iriver? I suspect an H100 or H300, just curious that it is not an H10. Did you also try other themes?
23:08:02pixelmaH100 probably
23:08:45AlexPH100 is the only one you can install to flash
23:08:56AlexPAnd it gives you RAM, ROM or disk image options :)
23:09:02pixelmayeah, read that again now
23:09:14*pixelma is quite tired, sorry
23:09:20AlexPheh :)
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23:37:14JustAnotherGuestHello
23:38:02JustAnotherGuestDoes anyone own Sansa Clip+/Fuze? I got a question related to radio/voice recording.
23:38:13AlexPJust ask :)
23:38:21AlexPIf anyone knows they will answer
23:39:12JustAnotherGuestDoes rockbox allow to record voice/radio stright to microSD card?
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23:40:11AlexPI would guess so - what happens when you set the recording directory to a directory on the card?
23:40:35JustAnotherGuestTo be honest i dont have microsd card so i cant check ;o
23:41:00JustAnotherGuestthis question is related both to official firmware and rockbox too
23:41:23AlexPwell the offical firmware isn't supported here
23:41:38AlexPask Sandisk about that :)
23:42:14JustAnotherGuestId rather ask here because i dont use OF that much anymore ;)
23:42:35AlexPplease don't, the OF is off-topic
23:42:57AlexPRockbox questions only :)
23:43:16JustAnotherGuestI just need to find person with clip+ or fuze and microSD card + rockbox ofc so he can tell me
23:43:58AlexPOr any Rockbox target with recording + SD
23:44:06JustAnotherGuesti got rockbox installed, OF question was purely informational
23:44:30JustAnotherGuestyeah that should work AlexP ;)
23:45:39AlexPwell, just hang around a bit and if someone feels like testing they'll let you know :)
23:45:44AlexPBut I can't see why it wouldn't
23:46:29JustAnotherGuestto be honest i know that on other sansa mp3 players its possibleon rockbox and tbh not possible on of
23:46:30JustAnotherGuestto do so
23:46:55AlexPI can't quite parse that sentence :)
23:47:03JustAnotherGuestbut as clip+ aint "stable" and is much different than most other mp3 players these days, id rather be sure
23:47:17AlexPIt isn't really different
23:47:41AlexPNo more so than other players are from each other
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23:47:59JustAnotherGuestyeah but rockbox officially aint supporting "clip+" yet
23:48:33AlexPRight, but if both recording and SD work, then there is no particular reason why it wouldn't
23:49:03JustAnotherGuestyou know clip+ mp3 player?
23:49:07AlexPyes
23:49:11JustAnotherGuestit has small 4 line oled display
23:49:19JustAnotherGuestrather "primitive" these days
23:49:34AlexPThat has no bearing on the internals
23:49:39gevaertsHow is the display related to how recording works?
23:49:46AlexPAnd OLED is new technology
23:49:56gevaertsIt's also not a 4 line display, it's a bitmap display
23:50:24JustAnotherGuestlol
23:50:31JustAnotherGuestic...
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23:58:37JustAnotherGuestbtw, any runtime benchmarks of newest rockbox on sansa players?

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