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#rockbox log for 2010-10-02

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02:22:04spike_sansa fuze will not turn on or reset or enter msc mode at all, after months of running rockbox
02:22:24spike_do you think they would take it under warranty?
02:34:54spike_ahh, reading through the forum i think i see what happened
02:35:09spike_it was connected to usb before rockbox was fully loaded
02:43:30pixelmaI believe there is a drain battery trick or so (but I don't have a Fuze)
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02:51:09spike_ah yea?
02:51:50spike_i just tried holding the reset for 4+ minutes, some people are saying they weren't able to have the reset work and had to wait for it to fully drain
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04:32:11spike_any ideas on how to more quickly drain a battery on a sansa fuze v2?
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10:25:46bertrikAnyone here with experience on opening a sansa clip+ case?
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10:31:12bertriknevermind, it worked :)
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11:20:49bertrikto recover the clip+, should I just use the 'dd' command without and size specifier?
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11:47:48AlexPSo is there anything we are waiting on for the release? pixelma, JdGordon - was there some issue with skins?
11:49:07pixelmaIMO yes, e.g. the screen corruption on at least monochrome targets. And my theme still crashes my Ondio but differently to before (get a "real" crash now, not a hang)
11:50:32*JdGordon certainly owuldnt turn down patches for these bugs.....
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11:51:53pixelmathere's also the playlist viewer move thing recently (kind-of-re)introduced recently
11:56:45JdGordon... I'm not deniying there arnt still bugs in the skin stuff, but unless someone else is interested in fixing them, postponing the release is a bit silly
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11:58:24pixelmawell I can't recommend someone using the release if I know there are bugs which are very obvious to some
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12:00:03pixelmayou'll never have something bug free but if it's this obvious
12:02:27JdGordonand never will have) something bug free
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12:26:08bertrikhm, mkamsboot refers to a "Sansa Clip+ v1". No idea what is meant with v1 as there is currently no v2.
12:27:38bertrikoh, this seems to be some kind of hw revision from the OF image
12:28:41pixelmamaybe to be on the safe side if Sandisk releases a newer one ;)
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16:03:17gevaertsAny objections to me committing the resistor calculator plugin, FS #11585 ?
16:08:09AlexPgevaerts: Have you checked the spelling? :)
16:09:20gevaertsAlexP: yes, but of course possibly not carefully enough :)
16:09:28AlexPthat's cool then :)
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16:35:13terugevaerts: are you aware of errors?
16:35:17gevaertsyes
16:35:21gevaertsI'm working on them
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16:57:15bertrikgevaerts, was the already halved-in-size resistor calculator plugin?
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17:12:05gevaertsbertrik: ?
17:12:53bertrikhalved in source code size I meant
17:13:42gevaertscompared to the original patch, yes. Although there are more features since then, so it's probably the same size again
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17:41:26bertrikhm, I can't use violet for the third band, and it's now telling me that 100 MOhms is black-black-black-black
17:42:09bertrikthis is on the sim, I'll try on target
17:47:21soapbluebrother, did you remove your own post?
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17:57:09spike_sigh, half bricked sansa fuze still not out of battery power
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18:03:02TheSevendoes anybody know a link to the WM8975 datasheet?
18:03:35CIA-81New commit by 03gevaerts (r28196): Fix outdated comment
18:03:54bertrikTheSeven, I looked for it but couldn't find it, I have one for the WM8971 IIRC which should be quite similar
18:04:16TheSevenand where can i find that one?
18:04:41spike_any idea on how i can drain the battery faster?
18:04:53TheSevenhttp://www.wolfsonmicro.jp/uploads/documents/jp/WM8971.pdf is 404
18:05:18soapspike_, on a nonresponsive plaver? And w/o opening the case?
18:05:24CIA-81r28196 build result: All green
18:06:10bertrikhttp://www.wolfsonmicro.com/documents/uploads/data_sheets/en/WM8971.pdf
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18:06:20TheSeventhanks
18:06:33saratogaTheSeven: this might also help: http://www.datasheet4u.com/download.php?id=507175
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18:14:24spike_yea soap, its a non responsive sansa fuze v2, the hard reset isn't working, and some people are saying they had to wait 3+ days for it to drain, any way i can help that along without opening it up?
18:14:51soapno
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18:21:08spike_aww snap, thanks anyway
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18:48:59soapgevaerts, could one change the order in which the LUNs are enumerated to the host? (re: microsd and card deck)?
18:49:12soapSo the microsd gets seen by the car deck but a PC still sees both?
18:49:28gevaertsYou could add a mapping table, yes
18:49:48gevaertsOr do something simpler and add an offset and "rotate" them
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18:50:04gevaertsOr assume we won't ever have more than two and invert them
18:50:36soapI didn't know how hard it would be to point the question poster today to inverting them.
18:50:50soap(as opposed to pointing out how to disable the internal)
18:51:15soapnot as any sort of permanent addition.
18:51:18gevaertsDisabling the internal is easy because there's already a define to do that
18:52:10soapYea, but not knowing how it works I didn't know if changing the order would be as simple as swapping a few lines.
18:54:19gevaertsIf you *know* you have two devices (whether or not they're plugged in is irrelevant), adding lun=!lun; in handle_scsi() near the #ifdef HIDE_FIRST_DRIVE should swap them around
18:54:38gevaertshm, wait
18:55:19gevaertsit's a bit more complicated actually
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18:55:46gevaertsHotswap handling gets in the way
18:57:22gevaertsTo do this properly, you have to do the conversion for every use of ejected[] and locked[], which may need thinking
18:58:56gevaertsThat actually means HIDE_FIRST_DRIVE won't work properly either if you unplug the card. It will behave as long as you don't though
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19:00:01soapThat seems like a reasonable expectation in the use case in question, but is that true (HFD won't work properly...) if you unplug the card while the device is not mounted to a host?
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19:01:23gevaertsWhat will happen is that thee USB code will get plugged/unplugged status for the internal storage and interpret that as being for the card slot
19:01:56gevaertsIf you do the "lun=!lun;" trick, the statuses are just swapped too
19:03:18gevaertsSeriously though, for the particular use case on the forums, I'd just get a cheap SD reader. Those cost about -$2 these days...
19:03:34soapI agree, I was just curious, and appreciate your time.
19:04:30gevaertsAdding proper support for remapping the LUN numbers shouldn't be difficult, I'm just very doubtful on the usefulness
19:05:15soap10 years ago when accepting multiple LUNs was far less common...
19:05:25soapbut today?
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19:27:32chaosdiabloi have rockbox on my sansa fuze v2 and my >>| & |<< keys arent working, they already worked on rockbox
19:28:04chaosdiabloi cant skip
19:28:26chaosdiablobut i can move forward in the music
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19:34:43soapanother support call with an easy resolution! ;)
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19:43:40CIA-81New commit by 03Buschel (r28197): Finally fix FS #11476 (data abort when playing some sv8 mpc files on lowmem targets like Clip+/Fuzev1/Fuzev2). This fix disables loading of seek tables ...
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19:47:02soapdoes this mean seeking will be slow/non-existent on lowmem targets?
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19:47:54Buschelsoap: no. it is as fast as before.
19:48:12n1sBuschel: IIUC this was only triggering the data aborts, and was not the actual cause?
19:48:29Buschelsoap: there are still seek tables used internally, which are built u via parsing or when playing the file
19:49:07Buscheln1s: yes. the crashes happened somewhere in the buffering code. nevertheless the behaviour was suboptimal.
19:49:13soapok, then here is the dumb question: Why load the seek tables on any target then?
19:49:16n1sok
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19:49:33Buschelsoap: they won't be loaded on _any_ target from now on :)
19:49:39soapahh
19:50:51Buschelsoap: but you are right, I should have wrote a better commit message that clearly states that there will be no loss in seek performance
19:52:14CIA-81New commit by 03Buschel (r28198): Optimization of mpc's buffering routines through using the maximum possible buffer size. This reduces read access calls.
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19:54:14Buschelthis bug annoyed me a long long time...
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20:29:45spike_so how difficult is it to open a sansa fuze, i hear its really hard to put together again / not break on taking it apart
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20:31:34kritskuhi all
20:31:37spike_hello
20:35:00kritskuright. I've been a happy user of rockbox on my sansa clip+ for a couple of months now. today i ran into trouble:
20:36:37kritskuI tried recording using the built-in mic{I;ve done this again}, but after an hour of recording or so when I looked at the clip+, it was turned off. My guess was that the battery was drained. I just connected it to my pc, and it doesn't charge, nor does it turn on
20:37:03bertrikIt could be hanging with the display off.
20:37:34bertrikThe first thing to try is to hold the power button for a very long time, say up to 1 minute to force it to turn off.
20:37:57bertrikThen press it briefly again and it should power on normally.
20:38:31spike_i am having basically exactly the same problem with my sansa fuze v2 at the moment
20:39:11bertrikYou might hear a faint click in the headphones as it turns off. Usually it takes just something like 10 seconds of holding the power button to turn off, but this can vary.
20:39:12spike_all the hard resets i've tried didnt work even like 10min +
20:39:16gevaertsspike_: not exactly
20:39:53kritskuspot on bertrik:) it's alive and well again!
20:39:58kritskuthank you very much
20:39:59gevaertsspike_: the fact that hard resets don't work for you makes it quite different
20:40:01spike_awesome kritsku!
20:40:09bertrikwe aim to please :)
20:40:33spike_yea gevaerts, it happened like other people have been saying when the usb power was plugged in before rockbox had time to finish initializing
20:41:13spike_i had this happen before, but that time the battery was really low so it didnt take long to discharge
20:42:33soapI'm tempted for the time being to sticky the "Sansa Clip Release LINKS DEAD" forum thread.
20:43:06soapIt's come up twice before in a quick glance at the IRC logs, and is a known issue.
20:43:13soapThoughts?
20:43:21gevaertssoap: sounds like a useful idea
20:43:27bertriksoap, good idea I think
20:44:21spike_i'm so tempted to try and pry this thing apart and disconnect the battery, but everyone is saying the case is better off never opened
20:44:23bertrikI didn't keep count of the number of times this has come up but I think I've seen it at least 5 times already
20:44:36bertrikspike_, do you run linux?
20:44:40spike_yea
20:44:42kritskuI'm not sure if this is the place for this, but there we go: I'm very pleased with Rockbox. It's nowhere near to how good the original FW is. The only thing it lacks behind is the interface. It works on other devices, but because of the lack of screen real estate on the clip+, the screen looks cluttered and the navigating around takes longer than it should. Should I go on or am I typing these at the wrong place?:)
20:45:10bertrikspike_, do you see anything in /var/log/messages when you plug in the fuze v2?
20:45:21spike_i'll check
20:46:21bertrikeasiest way is to open a terminal and do 'tail -f /var/log/messages', and keep a look at it while plugging in
20:46:27soapkritsku, do you have a suggestion for how to either unclutter the interface or to speed up navigation?
20:46:38AlexPkritsku: Just complaining is pointless - come up with a proposal that works on all players, doesn't hide or reduce options etc., then we'll talk :)
20:47:56kritskuI want to discuss this, I'm just making sure that I'm doing this right. let me just download mirc and I'll be back
20:48:16spike_ahh thanks bertrik yea, the file is very large
20:50:21spike_yea, nothing is logged when its plugged in
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20:51:05gevaertsbluebrother: does Rockbox Utility behave differently somehow (show a warning or something) if a port is unstable?
20:51:14bertrikspike_, can you do the long power button press powerdown thing (while disconnected from USB) and then plug it again?
20:51:35spike_yea
20:53:51kritskuAlexP: I like the way the original FW looks. I know that you don't like mimicking the original FW's looks, but perhaps you could borrow some aspects of it that make it pleasing to use as well as easy to use. Again, I'm just talking about the clip+, as I've used it on other devices such as an ipod nano and it works perfectly well on a screen of its size
20:54:48gevaertskritsku: shout if I'm wrong, but is what you're thinking about something like a one-menu-item-per-screen thing?
20:55:09spike_yea, still nothing, nothing with the forced msc mode either
20:55:27kritskuthat's one of the things that would work, and I know that it's not currently doable
20:55:47spike_and while listening with headphones in, even after a few minutes theres never a click like its going 'off'
20:56:13spike_although there is some battery discharge thats heard when inserting/removing earphones
20:56:16AlexPkritsku: I have no idea what the OF looks like
20:56:39AlexPI've never used it, and I've lost my clip so I can't look
20:56:57gevaertskritsku: actually, it might be doable to do this well enough for a quick preview to check usability. Maybe with just a huge font, or big icons?
20:57:10bertrikspike_, in that case I don't know what to do anymore, sorry. Maybe other fuze v2 owners here can give hints.
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21:00:25spike_thanks anyway bertrik, i read on the forums that some people have had this happen and the hard resets didnt work, and that they just had to wait a few days for the battery to drain completely
21:03:25kritskuAlexP: The OF's main menu has 1 item per page, with a huge icon next to it. The submenus only display 3 items per page. The menu animations are nice because they kind of give you a feeling in where exactly your are spatially.
21:03:47AlexPanimations are generally disliked as they slow stuff down
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21:04:52AlexPkritsku: I'm not anti change, or anti improvement btw, it is just generally when people want stuff changed they either a) offer no ideas or b) want it to mimic the OF of their choice as they are used to it :)
21:05:17kritskuAlso, while I like the fact that there is a Database and a Files choice, people will usually use one of them, and they clutter the main menu which could be simpler
21:05:29kritskuI know, you should get a lot of people just demanding stuff or complaining
21:05:45AlexPWe aren't removing options
21:06:09AlexPCustomisable menus aren't a nodo, it is just someone has to come up with an acceptable way of doing it
21:06:37kritskuagreed about animations, but they're not just bling, they can actually help visualise where you are
21:06:48bertrikAlso, rockbox runs on a wide range of targets and we like to have a more-or-less consistent look-and-feel on them
21:07:04spike_yea kritsku, i normally only use the files viewer and avoid the database altogether
21:07:15AlexPI wouldn't mind removing the database :)
21:07:46bertrikAlexP, I started to like the database and only use that now instead of the file browser :)
21:07:54AlexPbertrik: heretic!
21:08:10kritskuperhaps giving more flexibility and options to themes?
21:08:28kritskugevaerts: I've seen what you've asked, I'll get to that in a bit:)
21:09:00bertrikSimple left/right slide animations of screens would be nice IMO.
21:10:10kritskuup/down would be nice as well but would only be useful on the clips
21:10:37AlexPIt is a list, it can't have animations
21:10:42AlexPIt'd have to be rewritten
21:11:55bluebrothergevaerts: no. At least I don't know about something like that. It has some targets that are "disabled" which means they are only shown if you explicitly enable those disabled targets.
21:15:01kritskuWouldn't it be doable to let themers rearrange menu items/hierarchy?
21:15:14AlexPkritsku: Sure, but someone has to do it
21:15:22spike_i think animations are vastly overrated, it seems to me one of the goals of rockbox is making the ui fast and simplistic and uniform
21:15:28spike_i don't see how animations could be worked into that
21:17:20gevaertsbluebrother: then the clip 3.6 issue could be "fixed" by leaving it unchanged on the home page, but having the scripts think it's unstable?
21:18:01bluebrothergevaerts: yes.
21:18:14kritskusimplicity and uniformity can be aided by animations. I'm not suggesting hogging the devices with stuff jumping around on the screen. I'm not a fan of what I'm advocating here, but I've seen it work well with the OF
21:19:04gevaertssome transitions might not hurt
21:19:28*spike_ cringes
21:19:44gevaerts(optional)
21:19:50bertrikone of the stenbergs even had a blog entry suggesting how it could be done technically
21:20:06kritskugevaerts: using bigger fonts is a way, but it feels like a hack for many reasons
21:20:12gevaertsbertrik: yes, they are known heretics :)
21:20:15kugelpixelma: I got a fix for the playlist viewer bug but I don't understand why it works
21:20:20kritskuheheh
21:20:40gevaertskritsku: yes, it won't work well overall. I suggested it mainly as a way to see how well the concept works
21:21:00gevaertsYou don't want a fullscreen font in the file browser I suspect :)
21:21:15bertrikI think currently in rockbox the inner working of 'widgets' (like the list) and how they look are tied together, so the appearance is not that easy to change
21:21:31kritskuI tried working on creating a theme, but realised that not much could be controlled, so I gave up
21:21:42kritskuanw..enough said on the UI
21:21:54AlexPeverything can be controlled, except the lists in the menus
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21:23:23kritskuanother thing that's a bit off is the way each key behaves. in some instances what one key does is not intuitive under the circumstances. i guess that's natural though, because rockbox works on so many devices (this also goes for the UI)
21:23:43AlexPIt is mainly because of what you are used to
21:23:45kritskuso many devices, so many different button configurations
21:23:51kritskuthat too
21:24:29gevaertsIt's also because using a key in itself is not intuitive in the first place!
21:24:39kritskuahh another thing that I suspect noone here will like, would be perhaps a way to choose where to boot to by default?:D
21:24:49AlexPAint gonna happen
21:24:51wodzAlexP: you said that loading 'british flag' took ~10s on H100 right?
21:25:10AlexPwodz: 11, but I think ~4 s of that was disk spin up
21:25:26kritskuAlexP understood, but may I ask why?
21:25:47wodzAlexP: I tested on my mini1G and it loads in less than 4s
21:26:15AlexPkritsku: 1) Rockbox is a replacement 2) It complicates the bootloader 3) It may well slow down booting depending on how it is implemented
21:26:24amiconnProbably often-accessed data in DRAM
21:26:31amiconn@wodz
21:26:41amiconnCodlfire has no data cache, PP does
21:26:50gevaertsAlexP: actually, we decided to not rule this out back in June!
21:26:59kritskuright. makes sense
21:27:05AlexPgevaerts: Oh, was that one of those?
21:27:19AlexPOK, replace never with very unlikely
21:28:13kritskuheh ok
21:28:27gevaertsYes. IIRC we decided to allow configurable bootloaders provided that (a) without config file, they behave like they do now, (b) the cost for people who don't want them should be *one* file lookup at most (to see if the config file is (there)
21:28:54kritskuirrelevant question: do the new ipod nanos still use piezos or do they have proper speakers?
21:30:09wodzAlexP: when loading png the first 50% on progress bar is after decompressing image and final 100% after converting to native pixel format. Which of this two stages take more time?
21:30:33AlexPwodz: I can't remember, give me 10 mins and I'll tell you
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21:34:19kritskuright, I'm off guys...thanks for listing to my feedback, and please keep up the good work... rockbox sets devices free.
21:34:59kritskuand thanks for helping bringing my clip+ back to life
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21:36:36AlexPwodz: First part 5.5 s, second part 1.5 s
21:37:15amiconngevaerts: I think that's ok for on-disk bootloaders at least
21:37:42amiconnFlashable bootloaders are a different thing though, especially if they can also load a firmware from flash
21:39:37wodzok so this is zlib decompression
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21:57:56kugelpixelma: the line selector is right, but the icon and text of the lines are wrong
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22:10:58kritsku..and I'm back. last episode: clip+ hanged with display off. The wav of what was being recorded appears corrupted
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22:11:17kritskudata's there (120mb). Any ideas on how to recover?
22:13:26bertrikkritsku, recover what? the player or the recorded data?
22:14:51bertrikI think you should probably run a disk check. No idea why it hung.
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22:15:40CIA-81New commit by 03kugel (r28199): Playlist viewer: Fix off-by-one when moving tracks caused by r28131. ...
22:16:35kritskuapologies. the player looks fine, but I will run a disk check. the recorded wav file seems corrupted, it's not playable by vlc/classic media player/windows media player/irfanview or the clip+ itself
22:17:12CIA-81r28199 build result: All green
22:21:25amiconnMaybe it's just the wav header that's corrupt
22:22:28amiconnJust try opening the file as raw pcm (16 bit pcm, number of channels and sample rate depending ofn the settings you used for recording)
22:23:44amiconnIf that gives recognisable audio, trim a few dozen samples from the beginning (the corrupted wav header), and save it as .wav again
22:24:09wodzis it possible to put some plugin data in iram?
22:24:28kugelonly if you stop playback
22:24:56kugelbut the loader will do that for you so yea you can just put stuff into iram
22:25:25amiconnSuch a plugin will then always stop playback though
22:26:00amiconnFor an image viewer that should also work during playback (for small images at least) this might be undesirable
22:26:20soapgevaerts / kritsku: is it possible to create a font which is significantly taller than wide?
22:26:41kugelI would hate if I couldn't listen to music while viewing photos
22:27:01wodzhey just asking :=)
22:27:06amiconnIt could still be done - but then you cannot use IRAM_* attributes
22:27:32n1swodz: the ui thread stack is in iram and pretty big so if your hot data is small maybe it could go on the stack
22:27:40amiconnYou might have some arrays in dram, and a pointer for accessing them
22:28:12amiconnWhen using large photos and the plugin has to stop playback anyway, it could memcpy() those arrays to iram and change the pointer
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22:29:24amiconnAh yes, the main stack is another method (which will always and automatically work - but limited to a few KB)
22:29:50amiconns/using/viewing/
22:30:40wodzinteresting
22:31:34wodz'fixed' huffman trees for zlib are ~1kB
22:32:30wodzI feel really dumb - how to put array on the stack?
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22:36:00kritskuamiconn: thanks i'll give it a try. could you give me a suggestion of a program that could open a wav file the way that you're suggesting (ie letting me specify its properties instead of trying to read the headers)?
22:37:26kugelwodz: "char buf[NN];" :) but that doesn't work with compile time initialized arrays (not without a memcpy anyway)
22:37:44amiconnHmm, audacity?
22:37:53amiconnProject -> Import RAW...
22:40:13kugelwodz: didn't you change to tinf?
22:40:47kritskuthanks:)
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22:42:12wodzkugel: yes because of binsize
22:43:27wodzkugel: but AlexP measured 11s for decoding 1150x700 IIRC png (5.5s for inflating data) - this is a bit scary
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22:45:54AlexPwodz:, well 7 seconds really
22:46:15AlexPbut yeah, 5.5s for the first part, 1.5 for the second
22:47:24kugelI think that's an OK result
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