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#rockbox log for 2010-10-14

00:02:41zdebelI wonder if the usb interface died or something
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00:02:48zdebelbut that wouldn't make sense if the device gets discovered
00:02:49zdebel:/
00:05:44*zdebel wonders what's Gigabeat V Firmware Update 1.5
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00:10:48zdebel[zdebel@zDpc ~]$ ./beastpatcher -d NK.bin
00:10:48zdebelbeastpatcher v1.0 with v1 bootloader - (C) 2009 by the Rockbox developers
00:10:48zdebelThis is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There is NO
00:10:48DBUGEnqueued KICK zdebel
00:10:48zdebelwarranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
00:10:48zdebelLIBMTP PANIC: could not inspect object property descriptions!
00:10:49***Alert Mode level 1
00:10:49zdebelLIBMTP PANIC: could not inspect object property descriptions!
00:10:51zdebel[INFO] Found device "TOSHIBA - gigabeat S"
00:10:53zdebel[INFO] Device version: "PMC: 2.11 (632:1400); Platform: 1.2 (632.4)"
00:10:55zdebel[INFO] Bootloader installed successfully.
00:10:57zdebelERROR: Could not close session!
00:10:59zdebeland it still starts the firmware rescue thing :/
00:11:35zdebelhttp://www.rockbox.org/wiki/pub/Main/GigabeatSInfo/console_port_connection.JPG I see it has uart, can anything be done via it, like flashing the god damn thing? :/
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00:21:05zdebelthis day just couldn't get worse -_-
00:24:15zdebelso, both updaters don't find the device, windows rockbox utilities don't find the device, on linux it finds the device (from time to time) but probably during the transfer it fails at some point, great
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00:34:23zdebelmeh, tomorrow I'll solder in a header to see what does it spit out over uart :/
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01:10:24CIA-7New commit by mc2739 (r28277): Do not build remote failsafe skin files for devices without remote
01:12:01CIA-7r28277 build result: All green
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02:07:26pixelmathanks mc2739 :)
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03:46:03Greybeard1hi
03:47:15Greybeard1has anyone experienced a machine that reboots continuously when connected to USB?
03:47:39JdGordon|machine being your computer? or your mp3 player?
03:47:52Greybeard1the Sansa FUZE
03:48:28JdGordon|yeah, i believe its a known issue, what build are you running?
03:48:41Greybeard1Ver 3.6 I believe
03:49:03JdGordon|you can try the current build, I'm not sure if that is fixed or not
03:49:10JdGordon|or just use the sansa firmware for usb
03:49:20Greybeard1so, how do I get another firmware on it?
03:49:30JdGordon|how did you install it origionally?
03:49:33mc2739there is a problem with the new bootloader and v3.6
03:49:46Greybeard1I copied it via USB
03:49:57Greybeard1now, when it's connected to a USB port, it just reboots continuously
03:50:18Greybeard1so, is this thing totally worthless now?
03:50:35mc2739you can boot the of by holding the left button while turning on - then plug the USB cable
03:51:14Greybeard1cool
03:51:29Greybeard1I hadn't found that in either Rockbox or Sansa docs yet
03:51:45mc2739it should be in the manual
03:52:01Greybeard1hmmm
03:52:25JdGordon|http://download.rockbox.org/daily/manual/rockbox-sansafuze/rockbox-buildch3.html#x5-280003.1.3
03:53:01Greybeard1thanks a lot, guys
03:53:21Greybeard1the battery is very low, so I need to leave it plugged in for a bit before booting again
03:54:15mc2739the reboot problem should be fixed with the next release, or you could install a current build
03:54:36Greybeard1yeah, now that I know about the dual boot, I can try things
03:55:20mc2739although the current build is known to cause some playback issues on some fuze v1 players
03:55:38JdGordon|isnt that really really limited though?
03:55:49Greybeard1what's limited?
03:56:39JdGordon|I was under the impression that the fuze playback issues was only hitting a few people
03:56:42mc2739yes, I think I've only seen maybe 4 reports
03:57:05Greybeard1playback seemed fine on this one, but I wasn't able to get any new files onto it
03:57:35mc2739playback with v3.6 should be ok
03:57:42Greybeard1yeah, it was
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04:28:46Greybeard1I just installed the latest version and it no longer reboots when plugged into USB
04:30:24Greybeard1so, thanks a lot for the help
04:31:45mc2739you're welcome
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05:42:15CIA-7New commit by mc2739 (r28278): Fix typo in resistor plugin help text
05:43:55CIA-7r28278 build result: All green
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06:53:53S00rowI know it isn't really read for bugs yet, but where should i be looking to report for the Android port?
06:56:02S00rowIt automatically unpauses after a phone call at the moment, figured it was worth recording
06:56:32JdGordon|was it paused before the call?
06:56:48S00rowyes
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07:00:28S00rowI assume that unpausing after a phone call if it was playing prior is intended behavior (and i'm guessing it works :), but when paused it made for an awkward conversation
07:01:36JdGordon|go ahead and put that bug on the tracker then
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07:05:53S00rowCategory?
07:06:16JdGordon|operating system/drivers
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07:48:38amiconngevaerts: Your patch looks somewhat incomplete: if (power_ten>9) {}
07:48:50amiconnShouldn't be needed though
07:49:37*amiconn also wonders why gevaerts didn't adhere to the formatting conventions used in that source file
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08:39:24*GodEater finally has his sweaty paws on a copy of Linx Journal which includes his Rockbox article
08:39:27GodEater\o/
08:46:44S_a_i_n_tCongrats.
08:52:27Stummiis rockbox present on "conventions" like chemnitzer linuxtage?
08:52:39Stummiin germany
08:54:24Stummiit seems, that there are some german developers in this project, so it would make sense imho
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09:01:59GodEaterStummi: you'd have to convince the german developers to go. As far as I can tell, they're not keen on people ;)
09:03:49Stummii thought i can find some of them here ;)
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09:39:15AlexPStummi: Devs can of course go if they want (and represent Rockbox if they so desire) but we don't do anything as a project
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11:01:25gevaertsamiconn: yes, that if() shouldn't have been there. I noticed immediately after pasting the patch...
11:01:43gevaertsAnd yes, my own style habits took over. I'll fix that
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12:04:05JdGordonbrain fart time... whats the best way to get configure/autoconf.h and rbpaths.h all be happy with ROCKBOX_DIR being "/.rockbox" for all builds but add another define for just APPLICATION builds which has the $rbdir variable from configure/buildzip.pl/etc ?
12:19:49S_a_i_n_tDoes anyone around know if it would be possible to get the Nano2G to wake on USB/charger connection?
12:20:16S_a_i_n_tOr, what's holding it back from being applied?
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13:47:24JdGordonin usb_screen.h there is "static inline void gui_usb_screen_run(bool early_usb) {}" why isnt that "#define gui_usb_screen_run(a) do {} while(0);" ?
13:47:53JdGordonthe first one adds a warning which can be fixed easily enough but looks messy?
13:48:36zdebelfuck yes fixed my gigabeat s x)
13:54:41JdGordondoes anyone have a phillips SA9200?
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13:58:59JdGordonpeople who speak legaleese... can FS #11677 be commited without his full name? its a trivial patch which could be fixed by just fixing the comile error
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14:34:40JdGordonwhy the heck does the playlist cataloge not use the dirbrowser?
14:35:22JdGordonis the only reason because "add to playlist" wont easily work with the file browser because of the ft_load() action?
14:37:28JdGordonhaha "playlist catalog" > "view catalog" > context menu on a .m3u, "playlist catalog" > "view catalog" > etc...
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15:17:17*JdGordon wonders who commited the playlist catalog?
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15:33:15JdGordoncan people who use the playlist catalog please test FS #11678 and let me know if you cant do anything that you used to be able to do with it
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15:36:04soapWhy is the current playlist catalog treated special? Why not just dump the user to a specific folder in the filesystem?
15:37:37JdGordonthats what that patch does
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15:41:32soapI was just curious why it was the way it currently is. IF there is a "reason" for current behavior perhaps the obvious solution of simply removing it might not be appreciated by all.
15:42:01teruthe only thing which is different from usual browser is, if you add songs to a playlist via playlist catalog menu, then the playlist is at the top of the list when you open the playlist catalog next time.
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15:43:15teruadd "as far as i know" somewhere.
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15:56:28smartboyathomeso, I'm wanting to try my hand at developing for Rockbox, but am confused about something on the cross compiler step. Could a gcc compiled for ARM be used for this, or is arm-eabi essential for compiling rockbox?
15:58:31smartboyathomeI'm just wondering because, since i am on a netbook, gcc would take a while to compile, and if at all possible I'd like to avoid this by using the already-compiled cross-arm-elf-gcc available.
15:58:40Bagderyou need a gcc for arm yes, and we use arm-eabi for (just about?) all arm targets now
15:58:53Bagderwhat already-compiled one?
15:59:27Bagderwe recommend the one you build with rockboxdev.sh
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16:00:02smartboyathomeBagder, Arch Linux has a pre-built cross-compiled arm gcc, but if i need the one which is built with rockboxdev.sh i will build it.
16:00:16Bagderthe arch linux is most likely not suitable
16:00:20Bagder+one
16:00:40smartboyathomeok, thanks, that was what i was wondering. :)
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18:45:50windex9954anyone help with unbricking a sansa clip?
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18:46:36bertrikI may be able to help
18:46:49bertrikAlthough a bricked clip is quite hard to restore
18:46:59NomadicTrollI've been having some problems removing rockbox from my Sansa Clip v1
18:47:42NomadicTrollI've tried the utility, but it fails and directs me to the Sansa Updater. That doesn't work either (I assume because the Clip is in MSC?).
18:48:00bertrikNomadicTroll, just placing a original firmware .bin file on the player should make it flash itself back to the original firmware
18:48:04NomadicTrollI've tried to remove it manually, but it just tells me that it cannot find the firmware. I loaded the OF on, same file name, etc.
18:48:24NomadicTrollIt just fails to boot at that point.
18:48:28NomadicTrollIt doesn't reflash
18:48:51NomadicTrollAs far as I can tell I'm following the same procedure that everyone else uses
18:49:03NomadicTrollIt should just flash itself
18:49:30bertrikAre you really sure that you have a clip v1 and not a clip v2?
18:50:01NomadicTrollIt's definitely the clip v1. I checked the firmware before I loaded rockbox. Rockbox ran fine, and I can revert the OF back to the modified firmware and it loads rockbox correctly again.
18:50:04NomadicTrollIt's not bricked
18:51:51NomadicTrollIf I remove the .rockbox folder and put the original firmware on then it doesn't load. If I leave .rockbox and leave the new firmware it works, and if I leave .rockbox and put the OF on it reacts the same. Still runs rockbox correctly.
18:52:04bertrikso what happens exactly when you place the OF .bin file to the root of the clip filesystem and reboot?
18:52:23windex9954nothing for me, screen stays black
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18:53:20NomadicTrollIt will reboot and say "Loading firmware" and "File not found"
18:54:05bertrikThat means it didn't flash the OF image indeed
18:54:52NomadicTrollI've flashed this player with various versions of the firmware manually before and never had problems
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18:55:07bertrikDid you place the original firmware file on the player, while in the original firmware USB mode?
18:55:08NomadicTrollWorst case I'm fine with leaving rockbox on it. It's not bricked and still works.
18:55:49NomadicTrollIt's been in MSC mode the entire time. I'm not sure how to force it into MTP mode with the rockbox firmware if that's even possible.
18:56:19NomadicTrollI assume if it were possible to boot into MTP I could use the Sansa Updater
18:56:42NomadicTrollbut that doesn't mean it would correctly flash on reboot
18:56:50bertrikAre you completely sure that you copied the right OF file?
18:57:42NomadicTrollFrom the same zip I used to generate the modified firmware. Out of curiousity I've tried several other versions of the firmware as well.
18:58:27NomadicTrollI also downloaded a fresh copy
18:58:57gevaertsNomadicTroll: Did you hold the right button to boot to the OF when it reboots to reflash?
18:59:44NomadicTrollNo. You mean the literal right button?
18:59:50NomadicTrollI just tried that, and nothing.
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19:00:13NomadicTrollI've tried holding down various buttons, but I'm not positive I tried that before. Still didn't work, though.
19:00:33bertrikI think it's the left button that makes it boot to the OF
19:00:55gevaertsyes, it's left
19:01:01NomadicTrollI didn't read that anywhere, but I'll give it a try.
19:01:47NomadicTrollAh, I do see it in the wiki. Tried it, same thing.
19:01:49gevaertsit's in the manual
19:01:58NomadicTrollIt might just be my player :(
19:02:08gevaertsIs the .bin file still there?
19:02:11NomadicTrollI'm not too upset if I'm stuck with rockbox
19:02:32NomadicTrollI was probably just going to put it back on later anyway
19:03:08gevaertsYou also haven't answered bertrik's question yet on whether you're in rockbox or in the OF when copying the firmware file
19:04:28NomadicTrollI'm not entirely sure what you mean by that.
19:04:29gevaertswindex9954: have you tried holding the power button for a long time, maybe a minute or so?
19:04:35NomadicTrolland the .bin file is... not there
19:05:16NomadicTrollI don't think this is a problem with the software
19:05:41gevaertsNomadicTroll: boot to the OF (hold LEFT), copy the bin file, unmount and unplug, and when it reboots again hold LEFT again to get to the OF, and see what happens
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19:06:04NomadicTrollOkay, I'll do a full cycle of it and see if it clears up. Give me a second.
19:06:36gevaertswindex9954: it's possible that the software has crashed with the screen turned off. Holding power for a long time will then force it to turn off
19:07:48NomadicTrollIt didn't load after the first attempt, but the second cycle through seems to have resolved it. I'm not entirely sure what the problem was, but it seems to be with my player.
19:08:13NomadicTrollThank you for the help, though :)
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19:13:22windex9954alright i have the drive connected and im picking up the drive
19:13:40windex9954not getting any lights on the clip though
19:14:31windex9954sny way to reflash the drive through linux?
19:15:07windex9954i have the original firmware but how would you flash the drive in linux?
19:15:20windex9954bertrik?
19:15:36bertriki've never seen behaviour from a clip v1 like that, usually it's either working ok or not at all
19:15:56bertrikWhat is the name and size of the clip volume?
19:16:09bertrik/var/log/messages or dmesg should tell you
19:17:32bertrikdo something like 'tail /var/log/messages' or 'dmesg |tail'
19:17:32windex9954i think what happened is after i tried updating the firmware and the clip wouldnt turn on i bridged the conections on the board and reformated the clip as a FAT.
19:18:05bertrikare the connections still bridged?
19:18:40windex9954nope
19:20:34bertrikif it's in some kind of recovery mode, then placing the original firmware back is done with 'dd', not by simple copying
19:20:57gevaertsAnd *definitely* not by putting random filesystems on it
19:21:03windex9954yeah i tried that and i was getting a permission denied
19:21:29bertrikthe 'dd' utility needs to be used with a lot of care to avoid accidentally overwriting some other disk in your system
19:22:07gevaertsWhich is why it needs root permissions
19:22:09NomadicTrollyou're going to need to sudo it, windex9954
19:22:32bertrikand a good way to be sure, is to look at /var/log/messages while you plug in the sansa clip
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19:22:56windex9954yeah, thats why i listed the drives sudo fdisk -l
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19:23:42windex9954and unlugged the drive, when the drive was plugged in there was no partitions and was not able to dd the original file over
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19:25:55windex9954dd if=m30pa.bin of=/dev/sdd
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19:28:07windex9954any ideas?
19:29:53windex9954bertrik?
19:30:06bertrikare you sure m30pa.bin is the right file, I think it should be something like m300X.bin where X is a,f,p or t
19:30:40windex9954i downloaded it from the site, its a v2 clip
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19:33:41bertrikI don't know, it seems you're trying things without knowing what the actually state of the device is
19:34:15saratogastripwax: i just noticed this http://git.ffmpeg.org/?p=ffmpeg;a=blob_plain;f=libavcodec/arm/fft_neon.S;hb=HEAD
19:34:32saratogaapparently the ffmpeg people have beaten us to rewriting the mdct lib in NEON
19:34:49saratogai suspect the speed up from this will be approximately enormous
19:35:24windex9954ok so what should i do?
19:36:40windex9954should i bridge the connections?
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19:39:33windex9954how would i go about flashing the clip with original firmware
19:40:56bertrikAs far as I know the procedure: 1) you need to make sure the device is off, e.g. by holding the power button for up to a minute 2) bridge the connections and keep them bridged while pluggin it in USB, then release the bridged connections 3) verify that the player is indeed in recovery mode by checking /var/log/message or dmesg (you should see some "UNDEF" device with a size larger > 1 sector) 4) use dd to copy the original fir
19:40:57bertrikmware file to the /dev/sdX device (probably takes a minute or so) 5) unplug and reboot when done
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19:42:14windex9954i will unsolder the battery and try, one minute
19:42:22bertrikno
19:42:38windex9954no?
19:42:49bertrikmaybe that helps, but it should not be the thing to try first in this phase
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19:43:51bertrikwindex9954, I'm giving up, I can't help you.
19:46:14EmoebaHi, I installed Rockbox on my Sansa Fuze three days ago, and I really like it but there's a couple things I can't figure out
19:46:48Emoebafirst, I can get it to charge without mounting, but when I try to mount it, it goes into and infinite reboot loop until I unplug it
19:47:16soapwhich version of Rockbox do you have installed?
19:47:21n1sEmoeba: is that when plugging it in while it's off?
19:47:57windex9954ok i got all that done and im getting permission denied
19:48:08Emoeban1s: off or on
19:48:36Emoebasoap: I'm not sure, but I assume it was the latest one since I only installed it 3 days ago
19:49:06Emoebaah, here we are, 3.6
19:49:12n1sEmoeba: if you used rockbox utility it probably installed the release version, polease try a "current build"
19:49:36n1syes 3.6 is the release, and it does that when installed with a recent bootloader
19:49:44n1sthe current build should work fine
19:49:57Emoebaalright, I'll give that a try in a second
19:50:43Emoebamight that also be why I can't get the spoken menus to work?
19:51:11saratogadid you install the voice files?
19:51:14n1si think that should work in 3.6
19:51:36windex9954bertrik, i bridged the connection, plugged it into the usb on the computer, removed the bridge, tried to dd to the disk, getting permission denied
19:52:07Emoebado I need to? I was under the impression it would use KTTS to generate them
19:52:32saratogayes, it won't speak if you don't have the prerecorded voice files installed
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19:52:36saratogathere is no TTS
19:52:54Emoebaah, I see... I'll have to make those soon then :\
19:53:21n1swe have pregenerated english ones made with festival
19:53:29zdebelyo Torne me lad, I managed to get it working today, thanks god
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19:54:57Emoebaand my last question, do you know how to get videos to work? do I need still need to use the Sansa program, or can I just use regular MP4 files at a specific resolution?
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19:55:23saratoganiether
19:55:28saratogacheck out the manual
19:55:47Emoebahmm, I poked around last night on that, I'll look again then
19:55:50zdebeldo any of you guys know whether there was any work on tvout in gigabeat s?
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19:56:05zdebelif not, mb I could dedicate some time and try to figure it out
19:56:14zdebelwould be quite fun to put the screen onto the tv
19:56:22Emoebathank you very much, I'll try installing a current build now
19:56:30saratogai haven't heard anything about TV out, but that doesn't mean no one has mentioned it
19:56:39saratogatry searching the chat logs and see if anyone worked on it
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19:56:51zdebel'k
19:56:52saratogaEmoeba: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/PluginMpegplayer
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19:57:59Emoebathank you saratoga, I think in my sleep deprived state I didn't notice it says "MPEG-1" and "MPEG-2", not "MPEG-4"
19:58:10*Emoeba facepalm
19:58:13saratogano problem
19:58:51alexbobPmy sansa fuze v2 seems to reliably give me a "data error" white screen, if I'm browsing in the database and I try to add an entire artist to the playlist
19:59:18alexbobPanybody heard of this bug? I'm headed to the tracker
19:59:22saratogadata abort?
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20:00:17alexbobPah, here we go, http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11655?string=sansa&project=1&type[0]=2&sev[0]=&pri[0]=&due[0]=&reported[0]=&cat[0]=&status[0]=open&percent[0]=&opened=&dev=&closed=&duedatefrom=&duedateto=&changedfrom=&changedto=&openedfrom=&openedto=&closedfrom=&closedto=
20:00:22alexbobPthis guy had my exact problem
20:00:23n1szdebel: i haven't heard anyone interested in the tvout on the gigabeast either
20:00:23alexbobPsorry for the huge link
20:00:34alexbobPsaratoga: that's what it says...
20:00:52zdebeln1s, oh ok, otoh it looks doable, I'm reading the datasheet atm
20:01:20n1sshould be doeable, yes
20:01:26n1sdoable, even
20:01:47saratogai guess you'd change the display driver to mirror everything to the TV out?
20:02:03zdebelthat would be my first idea yes
20:02:18zdebelI'm reading the datasheet atm to find out how you talk to the chip
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20:02:31n1scn the tvout use a higher res than the display?
20:02:35n1scan?
20:02:49zdebelno idea, I haven't actually used this functionality in the OF xD
20:02:54zdebelbut from what I'm reading
20:03:01zdebelthe chip itself supports even hd output
20:03:42zdebelit uses i2c for controlling and a parallel interface for the pixel data
20:03:44windex9954any idea how to flash an sansa clip v2, i am unable to turn it on after flashing with rockbox
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20:05:17Emoebahmm, I encoded my video as an MPEG-2, but it gave me this error when I tried to play it: Plugin returned error #leak-file-handles
20:05:52EmoebaI'm assuming I've done something stupid, any ideas?
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20:06:26n1sEmoeba: you file makes mpegplayer choke for some reason, and when it bails out it apparently leaked a file handle, which is a bug
20:06:36n1syour*
20:07:20Emoebaalright... I'll try it again with the current build then
20:08:06alexbobPwhy is the severity marked as "low" on this task: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11655?
20:08:17alexbobPit brings rockbox to a screeching halt...
20:08:35saratogabecause no one pays attention to that field
20:08:41alexbobPah, okay
20:08:47alexbobPguess I shouldn't worry about it then :P
20:08:54alexbobPwindex9954: does it not even turn on if you plug it in?
20:10:10windex9954nope
20:10:33windex9954screen doesnt turn on anyways
20:10:52saratogasome people have reported the clipv2 crashing in a state where even resetting it doesn't work
20:11:00Emoeban1s: I'm suddenly confused, the Rockbox Utility says that the "Complete Installation" will install a current build, and that's what I did
20:11:02saratogaso if you can't force it to reboot, you'd have to wait for the battery to run down
20:11:14alexbobPI saw a mention on the tracker about that :/ seems like a big bad!
20:11:29saratogaEmoeba: if you can't find the current build link in rbutil, you can just download it from the front page of rockbox.org
20:11:29alexbobPwindex9954: try holding down the power switch for 20 seconds or so
20:11:43alexbobPwindex9954: if that doesn't work you might have to wait for the battery...
20:11:49windex9954tried that :(
20:11:53alexbobPdang
20:12:00alexbobPwell this makes me glad I have a fuze 2 instad of a clip 2!
20:12:06alexbobPit's a bit buggy, but I can always restart it...
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20:19:20windex9954guess i should just toss it in the trash
20:21:56Emoeban1s: AH HAH! I got it to mount, thank you very much
20:23:04zdebeldang I can't find any info on the chip, as in registers and commands :/
20:23:21zdebelwhat's cool though
20:23:22zdebelhttp://www.rockbox.org/wiki/pub/Main/GigabeatSInfo/gigabeat_s60_logic_block_diagram.png
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20:23:44zdebelif I read this correctly, it uses the same data lines as the lcd does, so it would just require to set the control regs up
20:23:49zdebeland it would clone the lcd output on the tv
20:24:01zdebelnow only I'll need to find a good datasheet for this
20:24:45linuxstbEmoeba: How did you encode your video?
20:26:20Emoebalinuxstb: I actually just looked at it and noticed its size is zero bytes, so something is obviously wrong... I used Kdenlive to encode it
20:26:43zdebelavidemux ftw? or mencoder? ;p
20:27:08Emoebazdebel: I feel ignorant... o.o
20:28:21zdebel?
20:28:39zdebelavidemux is a really nice tool, similar to vdub for windows
20:28:43zdebeltotally gui, easy to use
20:28:50zdebelmencoder is, imho, powerful, but it's cli only
20:28:58linuxstbEmoeba: You could try winff - http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/PluginMpegplayer#How_To_Encode_Files
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20:29:59Emoebazdebel: thanks, but I use Fedora so comparing to a Windows program doesn't really clarify anything
20:30:07*Strife89 prepares to head home.
20:30:11zdebelwhoa mate, I also use fedora :)
20:30:18Emoebalinuxstb: I figured out what I did wrong, it was really dumb... oops
20:30:19zdebelLinux zDpc 2.6.34.7-56.fc13.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Sep 15 03:36:55 UTC 2010 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
20:30:29Emoebazdebel: FEDORA PARTY!
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20:30:39zdebelsrsly, yum the avidemux ;p
20:30:39*linuxstb reminds people this is #rockbox
20:30:42gevaertsEmoeba: not here!
20:31:03zdebelEmoeba, assuming you have the rpmfusion repos
20:31:16Emoebait's a private party between linuxstb and me D:
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20:33:38Emoebazdebel: of course I can just use Kdenlive since I already started my rendering... and this time I'll actually make a file xD
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20:47:54Emoebawell this is interesting, now that I have a proper mpg file it opens the mpg player and acts like it's going to play, but now it's giving me a black "I just locked up" screen x___x
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20:53:58EmoebaI just noticed a very odd problem, now when I try to play ogg files they come out as weird static, I know the files are ok though because they play fine if I boot into the Sansa firmware
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21:00:37Emoebahmm, odd... I changed back to 3.6 and everything is fine and dandy again
21:02:44Emoebathanks for the help everyone!
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21:03:45bertrikwould have been nice to know what was wrong with ogg
21:05:53pixelma I think there a bug report for it in the tracker, as in other cases only some Fuzes are affected
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21:07:20pixelmaIIRC
21:08:19bertrikhm, ok, weird
21:11:18alexbobPI had a really weird issue the other day, where I had a FAT32 partition on a GUID partition table (since I had been using that flash drive to screw with a mac and had forgotten to change the partition table)
21:11:33alexbobPand rockbox was able to see all the files on the flash drive, but couldn't play them, it would just freeze
21:11:46alexbobPI guess that's not a bug, there's no reason to support GUID partition tables
21:11:56alexbobPbut it's odd that it could see the files, but couldn't play them
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21:16:06CIA-7New commit by pamaury (r28281): as3525v2-usb! fix suspicious calculation of next endpoint in INs chaining code
21:16:49pamaurygrrr, I didn't notice until now that I put a ! instead of a :
21:17:26CIA-7r28281 build result: All green
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21:35:15bertrikpamaury, which IN EPs do we have anyway?
21:36:41bertrikoh, 1, 3 and 5
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22:05:56amiconnpamaury: Will r28281 fix unstable usb on amsv2, or is that mystery still unsolved?
22:06:07fmlHello. I've just made a fresh installation of RB, and also installed the font pack. But the font 35-Nimbus is not included. Why?
22:08:55fmlAre the fonts included into the font pack explicitly listed somewhere?
22:09:34pixelmaI don't even know if/how the downloadable font pack is updated
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22:13:08CIA-7New commit by gevaerts (r28282): Resistor calculator: make brace-style consistent
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22:14:48CIA-7r28282 build result: All green
22:18:08pamauryamiconn: I don't see how it could fix the usb code. I already have a patch on FS that tries to achieve that. I have to admit that I didn't check without it so it might be, even though it's unlikely, that r28281 fixes the problem
22:18:27fmlpixelma: isn't it somewhere in the main make file? Or does RbUtil have its own font zip?
22:19:15amiconnThe main makefile can build the font pack, but the question is whether the main webserver ever runs that
22:19:29pixelmafml: I meant the step of putting it on the site (or download server). I don't know if the zip file is regularly replaced or not
22:20:38fmlamiconn: Apparently not
22:21:38*amiconn thinks this could be part of the 'daily build' round
22:23:13amiconnHmm, where did you find the fontpack download link?
22:24:04amiconnThere's a misleading link on http://build.rockbox.org/ that says "Daily builds, voices, fonts and source", but on that page I can't find fonts
22:24:46amiconn...and neither source
22:25:06*amiconn pings Bagder
22:25:34Bagderfor what? the font package?
22:25:41BagderI have no idea where that went
22:26:17fmlamiconn: I installed it from/with the RbUtil
22:26:42amiconnBagder: For the misleading link, actually
22:27:34pixelmaI think it's available from the "extras" page
22:27:35linuxstbThere are fonts here, last updated 24th September - http://download.rockbox.org/daily/fonts/
22:27:54linuxstb24th September 2009...
22:27:57amiconnPreferably the font pack should be put back onto that page, but the part saying 'source' needs to be removed
22:28:12amiconn(as iirc we decided to not offer a tarball anymore)
22:28:54evilnick_BMaybe http://download.rockbox.org/release/3.6/rockbox-fonts-3.6.zip could be added to the page
22:29:03fmlpixelma: the file at http://download.rockbox.org/daily/fonts/rockbox-fonts.zip does not contain 35-Nimbus
22:29:10evilnick_B(from) http://www.rockbox.org/download/byhand.cgi
22:29:24amiconnNo 'extras' package linked there either
22:30:18*amiconn is talking about http://www.rockbox.org/daily.shtml
22:30:34fmlThe fonts-3.6.zip also does not contain 35-Nimbus
22:30:34amiconnJust to be clear - we seem to have a confusing amount of download pages...
22:31:07evilnick_Bamiconn: That's very true
22:32:13amiconnfml: That's correct - 35-Nimbus was added after release
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22:59:51alexbobPWowza. For anyone who (like me) was worried about what losing that funky usb cable from their sansa fuze: http://www.amazon.com/Data-Cable-SanDisk-Sansa-Player/dp/B0019N6AN8
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23:00:01alexbobPusb cables for 1 cent. I'm buying a dozen!
23:01:01alexbobPbtw are there any sansa hackers here who might know why it has a funky data cable? are there more leads on the connector so that it can support other things than just usb? or is it just to make customers buy expensive cables?
23:04:08linuxstbalexbobP: http://pinouts.ru/PortableDevices/sandisk_sansa_pinout.shtml
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23:06:58mirak_hello
23:07:04alexbobPlinuxstb: oh, awesome. audio and video.
23:07:06alexbobPlinuxstb: thanks for the link
23:07:43alexbobPdoes sansa actually sell any products that let you use these features or is that connector just for the hell of it :P
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23:21:28Luca_Spamaury: I tested your recent commit about as3525v2 usb (without the hack on FS) on Fuzev2 and it got recognized 10 times out of 10 on ubuntu linux. On win7 however it failed: one time it did not get detected, two times it said it was using usb 1.1, the remaining times it worked
23:21:52Luca_Sfor me, situation is improved, while not completely fixed. YMMV of course.
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23:23:39Luca_Salso: is it intended that the cabbiev2 charging animation is barely visible? it seems like the color is way too light
23:24:36pamauryok thanks for testing, I still don't explain how it could work before so I can't explain why it works better after :)
23:25:28Luca_Swell, I'm convinced that rockbox is so great because of black magic, so it does not surprise me if it works even if it shouldn't :D
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23:35:35S_a_i_n_tLuca_S" On what target?
23:35:41S_a_i_n_t(cabbie charging anim?)
23:35:54*S_a_i_n_t will have a look at it.
23:36:38S_a_i_n_tLuca_S: And yes, Rockbox comes with a generous helping of black-magic installed also.
23:44:13n1sS_a_i_n_t: i think that colour is hard coded (assuming the one in the regular statusbar)
23:44:46n1sor maybe that changed and it just looks like the old bar did but isn't hard coded anymore?
23:45:50S_a_i_n_tI think it's doing the "swap from the battery animation to numerals when volume is changing" thing that all Cabbies should be doing, but, AFAIK aren't all doing yet.
23:46:04*S_a_i_n_t remembers to get off his bum and have a look at fixing that.
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23:56:55Luca_SS_a_i_n_t: FuzeV2, default RB theme, i am referring to the default statusbar. the battery icon in top left has a solid white part that covers the range 0-%charged, and some kind of faint animation from %charged to 100%
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23:58:49Luca_Sthough it's so light that I can't exclude it's just due to reflections in my room and/or my tired eyes

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