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#rockbox log for 2010-10-30

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01:12:11CIA-8New commit by 03kugel (r28386): Initialize (instantiate) RockboxFramebuffer from the C code like with the othe java objects. ...
01:12:15CIA-8New commit by 03kugel (r28387): Android: Delay the progress dialog so it's not shown until after 0.5s are over. This way it shouldn't show in a normal launch, but only if libmisc.so ...
01:13:50CIA-8r28386 build result: All green
01:15:24CIA-8r28387 build result: All green
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01:18:47tmztinteresting
01:23:12kugeltmzt: ?
01:24:01tmztI'm considering doing the same thing
01:24:48tmztare you storing global reference to jni objects?
01:25:30tmztdoesn't look like it
01:25:41kugelthe RockboxService class/object and the JNIEnv pointer yes
01:25:53tmztit's jni->AddGlobalRef(
01:26:07tmztyeah, those are the ones you don't want to store lov told me
01:26:17tmztinstead store jvm and add global references to the objects
01:26:47tmztjni_env isn't guaranteed to be valid outside of a call into native code (where it's passed)
01:26:56kugeli don't understand (bear in mind that all I'm doing is learning-by-doing, I never did java before the android port)
01:27:00tmztand the class and object local references can be reclaimed
01:27:06tmztme too
01:27:15tmztreading the jni book on sun.com
01:28:03tmzthere's my code https://gist.github.com/fff94eb7a42334ef9646
01:28:55tmztlet me add native.c
01:29:33tmztokay it was there
01:30:39kugelno?
01:30:55tmztsorrry?
01:31:03kugeli don't see native.c
01:31:06tmztit's being strange then I click edit and it shows up
01:32:33kugelit's not there
01:32:52tmztit made it private
01:33:16tmzthttps://gist.github.com/5a1392d368e86d2def5a
01:33:21tmztwait
01:34:06tmzthttp://gist.github.com/654654
01:34:15tmztthat should be public
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01:36:48kugelin some pdf was written this global ref stuff is usually _needed_ IIRC
01:37:55tmztit's needed with multiple threads is what lov told me
01:38:57kugelwho's lov?
01:39:21tmztin #android-dev works for google
01:39:35kugelthe rockbox' native part is a single thread (it only consists of Rockbox threads which the system doesn't see)
01:40:05tmztoh you're using the rockbox os schedular in hosted? I didn't know that
01:40:14tmztso audio threads are handled the same way?
01:40:44kugelthe java side has more (real) threads
01:44:34kugelI might believe that the JNIEnv pointer might change, but I'm convinced the RockboxService class and method pointer won't for the lifetime of the service
01:45:12tmztthey aren't pointers
01:45:16tmztthey are indexes into a table
01:45:31tmztif the JNIEnv changes they aren't valid anyway
01:45:34kugelwhatever :)
01:46:08kugelthe GC would be broken if the service changed
01:46:41tmztgraphics context or garbage collection, this is java we're talking about :)
01:47:03kugelit seems you need global refs if you leave native code, but we don't do that. once Rockbox' main is called one Java thread is constantly executing native code
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01:47:32tmztokay
01:47:40tmztso codec is a rockbox thread?
01:47:47kugelso local references (which seems to be the default) are ok
01:48:11kugelno
01:48:19kugelbut it's instantiated from a rockbox thread
01:48:38tmztare we talking about PCM or ogg/mp3 decoder
01:48:56kugelpcm
01:49:16kugelthe AudioTrack, which feeds pcm to the hardware in a java thread
01:50:02tmztdo you resize the target to fit the screen?
01:50:10kugelthe callback goes also into native, but in that callback function only the JNIEnv pointer that's passed to it is used so that's fine also
01:50:17tmztrogjt
01:50:19tmztright
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02:13:19AlexPAny last minute things for 3.7 anyone? I plan to build later today (when I wake up) if there are no last minute things.
02:14:41CIA-8New commit by 03alex (r28388): Update release date in tools/builds.pm
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02:38:18kugeltmzt: ok, the VM frees objects created in native code when the native method returns to the caller
02:38:25kugelwe don't ever do that in rockbox
02:38:41tmztoh? the view
02:38:43kugelbut it's good to know in case we do
02:38:58tmztit the constructor sets it into the singleton/service it should be okay
02:39:06tmztbut other wise it might get freed
02:39:22kugelit frees local references I mean. if you want objects to survive that you need global references
02:39:29tmztyes
02:39:40tmztas long as it has a reference on the vm side though it should be fine
02:39:48tmztI didn't read the java part closely enough
02:40:03tmztthe one you just pushed
02:40:46gevaertsThere's a bug in the menu code when you change the language
02:41:55kugelthe pdf also says if the native method doesn't return at all, then you must free local references explicitly
02:42:03kugelyou almost made me worry :)
02:42:05gevaertsJust go to the language settings, pick another language, and look at the top line of the screen
02:42:36tmztyeah I didn't realize you weren't using threads
02:42:39gevaertsit will have part of another string instead of the "general settings" text
02:42:57gevaertsThis doesn't happen in 3.4
02:43:01tmztI handle events on a different thread from the main loop so it matters and I wanted to cache thing because method lookups are slow
02:43:22kugelgevaerts: for me it's a completely different string (or no string in case of dansk)
02:44:45kugeltmzt: it only matters if the function which entered jni returns or not. in rockbox we also leave jni temporarily (when all threads are sleeping, then the scheduler calls a java function). but main() never returns so it works
02:45:23gevaertskugel: I think it's whichever sttring that ends up at the address of "general settings" in the previous language
02:45:41tmztso from the vms point of view you are a single thread calling back into java
02:45:56kugelyes
02:46:01gevaertsThere's not much more we can find out in this pub :)
02:47:14kugeldoesn't look like a release blocker to me, it fixes itself when re-entering the men
02:47:38gevaertsoh, sure
02:48:28gevaertsIt's just something we found while trying to annoy evilnick by changing the language on his fuze
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02:50:04sakurambooi just got a 5.5 gen ipod, but i gotta reformat it. the wiki says to use mformat because of the 2048-byte sector size, but couldnt i just use mkfs.vfat -S 2048?
02:50:33tmztmformat is in mtools?
02:50:38sakurambooyeah
02:51:32gevaertssakuramboo: people have had real issues with mkfs.vfat
02:52:21sakuramboowell, my main issue is, i never used mformat and the instructions dont work
02:52:33gevaertsYou can try, but it's possible that the bootloader won't find the main rockbox file
02:53:00*gevaerts can't really help more from here...
02:53:10sakuramboowell, whats the right way to use mformat in linux?
02:53:21sakuramboobecause it says to use a drive letter...
02:53:31sakuramboohow would it know where the device is?
02:53:55tmztuse :: with -i
02:53:59gevaertsthere's a config file. See the manpage
02:54:03tmztin mtools.conf
02:54:16tmztuse :: for the drive letter and give it the device with -i
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02:59:29sakuramboowith mformat, should the -S option be 4 or 2048?
02:59:43sakurambootwo different pages say two different things
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03:07:23S_a_i_n_tsakuramboo: If you have access to a Windows machine, it's a lot less hassle to just let iTunes reformat it.
03:07:37S_a_i_n_tAt least then you know it's done correctly.
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04:00:08terugevaerts: (for the bug title is not correct after changing language) probably r27383 is cause and this should fix it. feel free to commit. http://pastebin.com/mCGtqvx0
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06:16:59Kazu-chanWould anyone have an idea as to why my Sansa Fuze simply doesn't recognize Rockbox 3.6?
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06:17:33Kazu-chanI've used the utility and manually installed but it appears not to recognize the patched fuzea.bin as a firmware update
06:18:25S_a_i_n_tAre you certain you installed the correct version for your player?
06:19:24Kazu-chanI have a Sandisk Fuze (not v2), and I installed out of rockbox-sansafuze-3.6.zip
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06:33:46S_a_i_n_tKazu-chan: You're *certain* it's not a V2 Fuze? What does the firmware version (viewable from the original formware IIUC) say?
06:34:00S_a_i_n_t*firmware
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06:56:39happy_userjust wanted to express my thanks for rockbox! I've had a sansa Fuze for years. But I'm a Pink Floyd fan and hated the gaps between tracks. Installed last night (r28373-101028).
06:57:06happy_userI've been enjoying the gapless playback and have been very pleased at the dynamic range. I didn't even know I it wasn't there.
06:57:14happy_userA very, very hearty thanks to all of you!
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07:44:35Kazu-chanS_a_i_n_t: Odd. It might be because the v2 is listed as "unstable" that this happened: http://puu.sh/miU
07:45:00Kazu-chanBecause of that I convinced myself that I did have a v1, when I should have known I didn't
07:45:15Kazu-chanAfter clicking OK on that screen it worked perfectly
07:46:51S_a_i_n_tThe easy way (and the only way) of finding out the version of your device is to check the firmware revision of the original firmware
07:47:05S_a_i_n_t1 == v1, 2 == v2 ...simple ;)
07:47:14Kazu-chanYeah, that is what I did.
07:47:27S_a_i_n_tGlad I could help.
07:47:30Kazu-chanBut when I tried to install v2 on the device it gave me such a warning.
07:47:32Kazu-chanAnyways, thanks.
07:47:45S_a_i_n_tNo problem.
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08:39:52Simon14hi, i'm looking to setup an inactivity timer, very similar to sleep. Differences would be that the timer starts on boot and resets after any key presses
08:40:22Simon14any suggestions? i'm new to rockbox and its source
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09:01:47S_a_i_n_tSimon14: Isn't "Idle Timeout" what you're looking for?
09:02:12Simon14yeah.. i just found it, i had the wording wrong
09:02:47S_a_i_n_tSettings - General Settings - System - Idle Poweroff
09:02:52S_a_i_n_t...oh, yeah.
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09:06:00Simon14well not quite, this is what I was going for: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/10754
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09:09:53Simon14i've drained my battery a few times by not shutting it down.
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09:41:34S_a_i_n_tliar: (in case you read the logs) I tried your LCD Sleep for iPod Nano v4 patch and it's definitely, definitely not right for the LCD type I tried I tried it out on (7 (LSD176))...
09:41:54S_a_i_n_tIt inverts all the colours, pretty cool to look at, but...annoying, and wrong ;)
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09:47:31S_a_i_n_tliar: Actually, scratch that. Turns out that the bootloader and the build don't like being missmatched at all...weird side effect,
09:47:51S_a_i_n_tWorks well.
09:50:22S_a_i_n_tHmmm...nope I lied again ;) The screen colours are inverted until the LCD sleeps for the first time....weird, very weird. So, I'll continue to use the v3 LCD sleep patch with LCD sleep ifdef'd out of the bootloader build for now.
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10:24:11MItalyHi all,
10:24:22MItalyI think I found a bug in the resistor plugin
10:24:32MItalyhttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11704, patch attached
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10:26:56MItalysince it's a really simple one, I think that it could be merged in SVN without much fear :)
10:28:30S_a_i_n_tThe bug is known...thanks for supplying the patch though.
10:29:22MItalyOps... didn't see it in the tracker, probably I didn't the search enough :S
10:29:31MItalyHowever, I tried the fix on my Fuze and it works fine
10:30:41S_a_i_n_tyou're sure you looked?
10:30:53S_a_i_n_tit's actually listed twice in the tracker
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10:31:00S_a_i_n_t11675
10:31:02MItalyyou're right, once is mine
10:31:03S_a_i_n_t11704
10:31:11S_a_i_n_tAh.
10:31:17MItalysorry, I searched wrong
10:31:33MItalyI looked in the forum instead of the tracker; little mixup :S
10:31:41S_a_i_n_t;)
10:32:16MItalymine could be marked as duplicate, I may submit the patch to the original one
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10:43:22AlexPDoes the python2 symlink exists on all systems?
10:44:15n1sAlexP: as a command alias or something else?
10:44:31AlexPI ask as Arch recently switched to python3, and tools/thumb-cc.py doesn't work with python3, so I need to change #!/usr/bin/python to #!/usr/bin/python2
10:45:03n1si have python python2.5 python2.6 python3 python3.1 so i guess no
10:45:12AlexPDoing it locally is fine, but if it exists everywhere
10:45:15AlexPah, bum
10:45:24AlexPwhat distro is that?
10:45:36n1sdebian
10:45:41AlexPOK
10:45:49AlexPI'll just do it locally then
10:46:08n1sshuldn't we just fix the script to work with python 3 though?
10:46:18AlexPwell that'd work too :)
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10:48:19AlexPRight, I'm about to do the 3.7 builds if nobody objects?
10:49:05S_a_i_n_tDo we need a good reason?
10:49:16AlexPto object? Yes
10:49:50S_a_i_n_tThen build away Sir.
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10:57:03AlexPWhat tts engine is used for the voice builds?
10:57:04n1sfestival i think
10:57:06AlexPta
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11:00:55AlexPamiconn: What is the deal with archos flash packages? Do we release those, anything need doing etc.?
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11:08:02pixelmaAlexP: H100 manual is broken in the WPS key control table which is why I assume it's your remote keymap fix (it also built right before it was one of those I tested). I'm looking into it
11:08:22AlexPbugger, thanks
11:08:30pixelmaguess the release branch might be affected too then
11:08:36AlexPyeah
11:09:42pixelmaweird though as it doesn't look wrong, I'll see what a test-compile says
11:10:05AlexPI admit to not testing it, as all I did is swap two lines
11:12:26mc2739AlexP: http://www.rockbox.org/irc/log-20101030#02:40:46 and http://www.rockbox.org/irc/log-20101030#04:00:08
11:13:21pixelmaurgh, I should have updated my source tree before...
11:15:00AlexPmc2739: Do you want to commit that?
11:17:18mc2739I guess it would be better to commit before the release, but I have not tested it yet
11:17:32AlexPOK, I'll wait on building :)
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11:21:12pixelmaAlexP: there's a typo, I see it now... \ButtonRCRFF, an additional R, I'm going for another "big" commit
11:21:40AlexPpixelma: Thanks very much, my fault for being lazy
11:23:35pixelmano problem
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11:29:02CIA-8New commit by 03pixelma (r28389): Manual: Fix typo in the H100's remote keymap file.
11:30:16CIA-8New commit by 03pixelma (r28390): Manual: Fix typo in the H100's remote keymap file.
11:30:25ricemark20Is rockbox still unstable on sansa fuze v2?
11:30:46CIA-8r28389 build result: All green
11:31:15S_a_i_n_tricemark20: As of right this very second, yes.
11:31:59S_a_i_n_tBut, "unstable" doesn't mean unusable
11:32:10S_a_i_n_tmany people use it as their primary DAP
11:32:43ricemark20as a DAP it works great, but video locks it up
11:33:00AlexPIs there a bug report about this?
11:33:18AlexPand does it also lock up with the elephant's dream samples from the wiki?
11:33:56JdGordonAlexP: thanks :)
11:34:39ricemark20I'll check
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11:35:48AlexPJdGordon: No worries. Also, you know about drawing stuff - do you have an opinion on http://www.rockbox.org/irc/log-20101030#02:40:46 and http://www.rockbox.org/irc/log-20101030#04:00:08
11:38:28CIA-8New commit by 03mc2739 (r28391): fix menu screen title bug - patch by Teru
11:38:32JdGordonnot yet... but i trust teru's code so if that fixes it, its probably good
11:38:33*JdGordon hasnt read through the logs properly yet
11:39:49AlexPnae worries, mc2739 has :)
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11:40:17CIA-8New commit by 03mc2739 (r28392): fix menu screen title bug - patch by Teru
11:47:18ricemark20elephant dream worked, must be an issue with some of my video formats.
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11:51:06S_a_i_n_tricemark20: Are you using windows?
11:51:23ricemark20no, arch linux
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11:51:47AlexPhow are you encoding?
11:52:30pixelmaAlexP: correct - amiconn.dyndns.org/~marianne/H100-remote.svg">http://amiconn.dyndns.org/~marianne/H100-remote.svg ? (a bit small in my preview but easily scaled up, it's an SVG...)?
11:53:30AlexPpixelma: looks great :)
11:53:38AlexPI love the little rocker arrows :)
11:53:51ricemark20usually I encode with avidemux
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11:54:18AlexPmpeg1/2, correct apsect ratio, mp3 sound?
11:54:42AlexPwell, aspect ratio/resolution shouldn't crash it I don't think
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11:55:31pixelmaAlexP: not much I had to do there as they are very similar to the Iaudio remote ones :)
11:55:42ricemark20I'll try to use e.d. as a template
11:55:55AlexPpixelma: ssshh, don't tell me that :)
11:56:25AlexPricemark20: I think the wiki page gives you sample command lines (for ffmpeg IIRC)
11:56:41AlexPRight, I'm building the manuals
11:56:55AlexPLast chance now to shout before the builds... :)
11:57:17ricemark20oh, I see. thank you
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12:14:46ricemark20btw, both videos for Ipod video work on the Fuze v2
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12:33:26AlexPpixelma: http://aeparker.com/files/IMG_1029.JPG and http://aeparker.com/files/IMG_1031.JPG (about 3 MB each)
12:35:46pixelmaoh, thanks :)
12:36:04AlexPno worries :)
12:38:40pixelmamarkun once linked me a nice outline drawing (from a manual or so) but it's gone and I didn't save it for some reason
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13:17:09CIA-8New commit by 03pixelma (r28393): Manual: add drawings of the H100 remote with button labels to the player images and use it in the 'Quick Start' chapter (below the main player ...
13:18:35soappixelma, were you thinking of svging the Gigabeat remote?
13:18:48CIA-8r28393 build result: All green
13:19:18pixelmasoap: yes
13:19:38soapdo you want a flat scan of the gigabeat remote? Would that help?
13:20:33pixelmaAlexP just gave me two good photos (see above) but one more probably doesn't hurt :)
13:21:12soapI saw, but didn't know if you wanted a perspective correct one for tracing.
13:22:33pixelmaif you can get it even more flat, it could be helpful yes
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13:40:53pixelmasoap: found Toshiba's Gigabeat manual and it has those outlines of the remote in it, that should do
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14:05:42AlexPThese builds are taking bloody ages
14:06:13kugelAlexP: are you building amsv2?
14:07:19kugelwe agreed on promoting them, but iirc we wanted to disable rtc wake-up in the release branch
14:07:40AlexPkugel: I'm just building whatever is stable at the moment
14:07:55AlexPi.e. what tools/release/bins.pl builds
14:08:03kugelthen they're missing
14:08:16AlexPThey really should have been added before now
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14:08:33AlexPbut if they are going to be promoted, then please do now
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14:09:15kugelI thought due to the scripts we need to do it only moments before
14:09:25AlexPThe original release date was originally yesterday, so I assumed all was ready
14:09:36AlexPNot if you also want to disable stuff
14:09:52AlexPWaiting until the last second just inconveniences people, i.e. me
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14:11:41kugelwe can upload the builds for amsv2 any time later, just keep going
14:12:30kugelclipv1 also isn't promoted yet? and nano2g?
14:12:37AlexPthey are
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14:13:42AlexPkugel: If you do the necessary disabling and promoting, I'll build them manually when this automatic run has finished
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14:18:40kugelI hope it's not too bad that 3.7 for amsv2 has a different revision
14:19:10AlexPthe revision in rockbox-info.txt etc. is 3.7
14:19:30AlexPI can rebuild the others, it isn't hard it just takes ages
14:19:32kugelright
14:20:18kugelif the exact revision is written nowhere it should be fine
14:20:38AlexPI just need to double check in the actual build
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14:24:39AlexPkugel: Yeah, 3.7
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14:26:04S_a_i_n_tliar: I made a note earlier about your LCD Sleep for Nano2G...did you see it?
14:26:21S_a_i_n_tspecifically the v4 patch
14:29:13kugelAlexP: I can do it in a few min
14:29:19AlexPcool
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14:30:52AlexPWhat is being promoted?
14:33:03AlexPWhy does the release script seem to be doing make mapzip then throwing away the rockbox-maps.zip?
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14:41:06kugelAlexP: dunno but the .maps would be nice to keep
14:41:25AlexPyeah, that's what I thought, but they aren't
14:41:49AlexPIt does make zip then make mapzip, moves the build zip out, then removes the build direcotry
14:42:21kugelfuzev2, clipv2 and clip+ will be promoted
14:42:26AlexPOK
14:42:56S_a_i_n_twow...4(?) new stable targets...nice.
14:43:11AlexP5
14:43:21AlexPin terms of release anyway
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14:43:55S_a_i_n_tfuze, clipv2, clip+, nano2g....<blah>?
14:44:01AlexPclip
14:44:03S_a_i_n_t*fuzev2
14:44:14S_a_i_n_tAh...*derp*
14:44:23JdGordonkugel: what was the need for the c code to init the framebuffer?
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14:45:44JdGordonI think the less calls into java the better
14:45:56JdGordonjni is anything but nice
14:49:11JdGordonalso, I tihnk it would be nice if the loading splash could be canceled which puts you back to the home screen which your commit makes more difficult i tihnk
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14:52:35AlexPbluebrother: Will rbutil handle the single ipod video release?
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15:00:36AlexPkugel: The fuzev2 manual doesn't build
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15:02:23AlexPoh, maybe it does
15:02:32AlexPone mo
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15:03:15AlexPkugel: Don't worry, false alarm
15:03:27kugelcool
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15:25:25mc2739AlexP: did r28000 ever get reverted in th 3.7 branch?
15:26:09AlexPmc2739: yes
15:32:21kugelAlexP: http://pastebin.com/r4SB9nfK would be the patch for the 3.7 branch (without the rockboxdev.sh hunk)
15:32:32kugeli'm not able to build currently (dunno why)
15:33:50AlexPkugel: Would you like a build to test?
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15:34:18AlexPfuzev2 yeah?
15:34:28AlexP,sorry, fuze
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15:36:47AlexPer, yes :)
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15:42:31AlexPkugel: http://aeparker.com/files/rockbox.zip
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15:48:34AlexPkugel: Did you get that link?
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15:50:38kugelAlexP: works fine and I can't find the rtc alarm setting
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15:51:01kugelinstead the alarmclock plugin is there, as expected
15:51:15AlexPOK, so I'll commit that?
15:51:42AlexPI guess you can actually, if it is just building that ois broken :)
15:51:45kugelyes, please :) but undo the rockboxdev.sh change if you didn't already
15:51:53kugelah yes :)
15:51:54AlexPyep, will do
15:51:59AlexPOK, you go :)
15:52:16AlexPAlthougjh it'd be nice to separate the make stable and the disable bits
15:54:52AlexPkugel: Are you or am I committing it?
15:54:59kugelI am
15:55:04AlexPgreat :)
15:55:07kugelI'm seperating atm :)
15:55:10AlexPI confused myself there :)
15:55:22CIA-8New commit by 03kugel (r28394): Promote Sansa Fuzev2, Clipv2 and Clip+ to stable.
15:56:33kugelhaha, damn svn
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16:00:58CIA-8New commit by 03kugel (r28395): Promote Sansa Fuzev2, Clipv2 and Clip+ to stable.
16:02:02CIA-8New commit by 03kugel (r28396): Disable RTC wakeup/alarm for the release on Fuzev2, Clipv2 and Clip+. It's not working reliably.
16:02:47AlexPThe front page will need updating too
16:04:28kugelis "Sansa c200 series (not v2), e200 series (all models), Fuze, Clip and Clip+" enough?
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16:05:06AlexPdo we need the all models any more for e200?
16:05:06kugelthe nano2g also needs promoting on the front page right?
16:05:10AlexPyep
16:05:40kugelthere's also a e200R but that could possibly be mentioned explicitly
16:06:30kugel"Sansa c200 series (not v2), e200 series (all models)" -> " Sansa c200 (not v2), e200 and e200R series"
16:06:41AlexPseems fine to me
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16:07:05kugel"Sansa c200 (not v2), e200 and e200R series, Fuze, Clip and Clip+" ?
16:07:28AlexPyup
16:08:15kugelthe nano2g is promoted in the branch only :\
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16:08:49AlexPah, I think that was so as to not confuse rbutil until the release or something?
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16:09:31kugelah yes
16:11:15kugelheh I probably should have waited with the commit to trunk
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16:15:24AlexPnearly done now anyway
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16:23:53CIA-8New commit by 03mc2739 (r28398): Update front page for iPod Nano 2g stable promotion
16:24:11AlexPRight, that's everything built
16:24:15AlexPI'll just test a couple
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16:28:48AlexPseems fine
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16:29:15kugelAlexP: don't you want the nano2g in the list of stable targets?
16:29:32AlexPI do, yeah. Why?
16:29:34kugeloops that was mc2739's commit
16:31:43AlexPcan someone using svn please run tools/release/tarball.sh on the release branch? It doesn't work with git
16:32:46mc2739AlexP: running now
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16:36:48AlexPmc2739: thanks
16:37:59AlexPBagder: Can you put the 3.7 builds on the server? ftp://ftp.aeparker.com, username: "public@aeparker.com" password: "public"
16:38:10AlexPWhere does http://download.rockbox.org/daily/build-info come from?
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16:39:39kugelFS #11675 meh
16:40:29AlexPkugel: looks like an ideal candidate for our back porting bug fixes :)
16:40:47kugelhopefully we don't forget doing this
16:40:56AlexPI'll try to annoy people
16:42:02AlexPWhat other website stuff needs updating?
16:42:22AlexPaccording to release checklist: http://download.rockbox.org/daily/build-info
16:42:38AlexPand the download page
16:42:47kugelbuild-info is for rbutil i think
16:43:01AlexPDo you know where it comes from?
16:43:15kugelno
16:43:25AlexPWe need to wait until the files are on the server before updating though
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16:52:03mc2739AlexP: branch tarball - http://www.datafilehost.com/download-ca9be497.html
16:52:35AlexPmc2739: Thanks
16:52:55AlexPBagder: source tarball as well please ^^^^ :)
16:53:12AlexPwell, 7zipball :)
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17:23:36BiontHi everyone :) I'm trying to build rb for android. can anyone tell me how to set those environment variables?
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17:29:51Biontand in what program?
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17:43:19Jaykayis there any way to use a rockbox player as a usb microphone?
17:44:09Biontwell configure works now, but apparently I'm too stupid to set the path correctly^^ "No such file or directory" all over the place
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17:44:47S_a_i_n_tJaykay: Nope
17:44:58Jaykaythanks :)
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17:46:13tmztthere's usb client support but nothing for iso modes
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18:00:52Bionthmmm I see what the prolem is. I thought I needed the windows sdk since I'm using cygwin
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18:11:10S_a_i_n_tBiont: Not sure if it's already in the source or not...but the tracker suggests you'll need this to compile RaaA on CygWin: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11234?getfile=22708
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18:31:05Biontthank you. I'll check it out when I come back.
18:31:08Biontsee you
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19:09:21Simon14is anyone here using the pause-timeout patch (http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/10754)?
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20:22:44CIA-8New commit by 03kugel (r28400): Android: Nicer launcher and statusbar icons made by Dustin Skoracki (taken from FS #11234). ...
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21:38:23saratogais there some way to make it so that trying to report someone with mod privileges reminds you that report and PM are not the same thing
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21:40:54saratogathe clipv1 has USB enabled in 3.7 right?
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21:53:50saratogai added a bunch of new stuff to the release notes, but looking over them i'm sure we're missing stuff
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21:54:01saratogaif people could go over and add anything they've done in the last few months that would be great
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21:56:22Strife89TXHmm, is the resampler used when using different channel configs (ex.: mono)?
21:58:24saratogaStrife89TX: no, only when resampling
21:59:02saratogasince doing linear interpolation from one sample rate to the same sample rate has no effect
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22:00:28Strife89TXSorry, that was stupid to ask.
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22:03:12saratogano problem
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22:08:53Strife89TXI've never really studied the material ... I just remembered the discussion on the resampler from a few weeks ago. ._.
22:09:33saratogathe problem with the resampler is just that it tends to introduce some distortion when resampling higher frequencies
22:09:37saratogathats about it
22:09:45Strife89TXAh.
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22:17:09AlexPlinuxguy3: Any chance of sorting out your connection?
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23:07:27amiconnAlexP: (late answer) No relevant changes for bootbox or the flash loader, so no new plash packages needed
23:07:43AlexPamiconn: OK, great, cheers
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23:14:56AlexPBagder: Do you know where http://download.rockbox.org/daily/build-info comes from? And are there any other website bits to update for 3.7 (download links I assume) once the builds are on the server?
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23:20:02Bagderrockbox/tools/builds.pm I believe
23:21:47Bagderrelease/3.7/ is now populated on the master server
23:22:05AlexPgreat, thanks
23:22:38AlexPBagder: Did you get the source 7z too?
23:23:23Bagderno...
23:23:40Bagderhm, one of them crappy download sites, but I'll fix
23:24:15AlexPyeah, sorry about that - it's as I couldn't do it as the script doesn't work on git svn
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23:25:01Bagderno worries, I'll just get it home first then upload it to the site
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23:25:25AlexPgreat
23:28:58AlexPI assume that builds.pm needs to be updated in trunk for the website to pick it up
23:29:16Bagderyes, exactly
23:29:29AlexPOK, coming up
23:31:00mc2739AlexP: r28381 and r28310 both need to be committed to trunk
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23:33:49AlexPmc2739: The release scripts don't really need updating
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23:36:47mc2739builds pm is not only for relases though, it is also used for dailies and manuals
23:37:43AlexPyep, but the scripts in tools/releases aren't afaik
23:38:18AlexPIf I'm removing the ipod video 64 mb build, I guess we want to change the name of the remaining build at the same time
23:38:47AlexPiPod Video 30GB −−> iPod Video? or iPod Video (all)? or ...
23:40:02mc2739I'd just use iPod Video
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23:46:19AlexPBagder: Any preference for ipod video name?
23:46:33Bagderno ;-)
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23:46:50AlexPJust "iPod Video" then?
23:47:00BagderI think so
23:47:05AlexPcool
23:47:11Bagder(look a preference!)
23:48:23AlexPhehe :)
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23:50:23CIA-8New commit by 03alex (r28401): *Bump version to 3.7 ...
23:51:44AlexPCan someone using svn tag the release please? "svn cp svn://svn.rockbox.org/rockbox/branches/v3_7 svn://svn.rockbox.org/rockbox/tags/v3_7" according to the ReleaseChecklist wiki page
23:51:56CIA-8r28401 build result: All green
23:52:00AlexPI don't know how to do it with git svn :)
23:52:50mc2739AlexP: processing
23:53:01AlexPmc2739: Thanks :)
23:53:46CIA-8New commit by 03mc2739 (r28402): Tag release 3.7
23:54:35CIA-8New commit by 03mc2739 (r28403): Update front page for 3.7 release
23:54:45AlexPmc2739: Do you have www checked out?
23:54:49AlexPah cool
23:54:56AlexPI was just going to say that :)
23:55:05mc2739;)
23:55:42mc2739Bagder: can you update the webpage?
23:55:47Bagderyessir!
23:55:52mc2739thanks
23:56:03AlexPmc2739: Download links too?
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23:57:06mc2739done - they come from build.pm
23:57:23mc2739s/build/builds/
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23:58:22Bagderwww updated
23:58:44AlexPmc2739: ah, cool - I just saw you updated www/download/byhand.cgi for 3.6

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