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#rockbox log for 2010-11-05

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00:15:54CIA-7New commit by 03kugel (r28484): Adapt icon loading to get_user_file_path()
00:17:38JdGordon|:( we really want to get rid of that, not add more calls
00:17:41CIA-7r28484 build result: All green
00:19:32kugeluntil it's done I'd like to be able to load icons
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00:21:42kugelJdGordon|: what is the #else .. maloc() #endif case for in skin_buffer.c?
00:21:53kugelis anything actually doing it?
00:22:11JdGordon|thats when it is a stand alone lib
00:22:14JdGordon|i.e the theme editor
00:23:09kugeldoes it free properly?
00:23:21JdGordon|yes
00:23:32kugelI assume so. can APPLICATION and theme editor not use the same code?
00:24:13JdGordon|no, for the allocs in the parser it can but the rockbox code does a ton of other allocs which are easily to mess up if we dont keep careful track of them
00:24:39JdGordon|look at the skin_buffer_alloc() calls in apps/gui/skin_neinge/skin_parser.c
00:25:08kugelI see
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00:25:59JdGordon|so doing the list thing does suck a bit, but there isnt really a better alternative
00:26:12JdGordon|and yeah, rolling the 2 mallocs into one could help a tiny bit
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00:27:01JdGordon|but because so many of the allocs are under 200 bytes whatever we do is bad
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00:27:41JdGordon|we could allock 4KB chunks and then just pass a pointer into that so much less mallocs but more hassle to get working
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00:28:19b0hoonbertrik: your new patch works (tuner detection)
00:28:48bertrikb0hoon, are the first four bytes in the debug menu always the same value?
00:29:24bertrikthanks for testing so far BTW :)
00:29:54b0hoonbertrik: this is the problem, no but the fourth byte has always 4 bits !=0 and that is enough :)
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00:30:32b0hoonbertrik: 4 youngest bits
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00:33:38pixelmaJdGordon|: did you do anything with the themesite VM (maybe update it)?
00:34:00b0hoonbertrik: it is necessary to have the tea detection for the HDD63X0 and the HDD1XX0, ifdefs are useless here, there is no way to distinguish between models
00:34:12kugelJdGordon: 3 things. a) IMO r28475 reall should have been two separate commits, b) the second part of r28475 doesn't work properly (when you re-enter rockbox the hw buttons don't work), c) canceling in the keyboard dialog also doesn't work (anymore? I think it worked after the initial commit)
00:35:08JdGordon|can you please stop saying IMO? obviously it is your opinion...
00:35:27kugelwhy should I?
00:35:57kugelmaybe it's obvious for you, it may not be for others
00:36:54b0hoonbertrik: no problem. Thank you for the patch. night.
00:37:18kugelanyway...I would appreciate if you could look into the 2 issues
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00:38:18JdGordon|1) because everything anyone says is their opinion, 2 we don't like abbreviations and imo shouldnt be different, 3 not untill i ahe a working android build again
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00:39:13JdGordon|what in 28475 should have been 2 commits?
00:40:24kugela) repare dpad and b) make android handle back when in main menu
00:40:27kugelrepair*
00:40:44JdGordon|meh
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00:41:08ChrisTheOnehey
00:41:22ChrisTheOneanyone here?
00:42:11pixelmaJdGordon|: I take that as a "no" ;)
00:42:53pixelmaChrisTheOne: if you have a Rockbox question just ask
00:43:28kugelJdGordon: we like abbreviations that are on http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IrcTalk
00:43:45ChrisTheOnei got the Rockbox Utility on my PC, but it won't connect to my Sansa Clip
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00:44:21ChrisTheOneit says 'its not writable'
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00:45:10pixelmawhen does it say that? You start the Utility, your Sansa is connected and then...
00:47:14ChrisTheOneactually, i think it does connect to Rockbox Utility
00:47:16ChrisTheOnebut then
00:48:52pixelmawell, what are you doing exactly, was it found by "auto-detect" or is this the point where it breaks?
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00:51:14pixelmakugel: I wouldn't say "we like them", they are somewhat acceptable but if still not nice for people using screenreaders
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00:54:39ChrisTheOnehye
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00:54:45ChrisTheOnehmmm
00:54:57ChrisTheOneseems to me not everything i say gets uploaded
00:55:08ChrisTheOnebut as i was saying some earlier
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00:55:19ChrisTheOneRockbox Utility crashes
00:55:31ChrisTheOnewhen i try to use the auto-detect
00:57:31pixelmahmm, sounds weird. What version of the Utility and which OS are you using? Also, is your Sansa Clip in MSC mode?
00:57:33ChrisTheOneand i cant connect using the browse function, its not in the list
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00:57:51martiihey :)
00:57:52ChrisTheOneVista, and the latest version of Utility
00:58:02ChrisTheOneMSC mode = ?
00:58:20martiiGuys I wanted to report that lates rockbox supports well my iTrip LCD with 4G iPod 20GB
00:58:30martiilooks like I can't edit wiki
00:58:56bertrikWhat kind of device is that?
00:59:10pixelmaChrisTheOne: it's a setting in the original firmware, if it is set correctly you'll get a drive letter in Windows
00:59:37pixelmathe installation instructions in our manual should explain this
00:59:54ChrisTheOneit is in MSC mode now
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01:00:13ChrisTheOnegreat, it's now an 'F:'
01:00:20martiiso who can edit wiki?
01:00:21ChrisTheOneit'll probably work now
01:00:23ChrisTheOnethanks!
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01:01:50ChrisTheOneit is connected now! :D
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01:03:39pixelmamartii: everyone who's registered and given permission (you'd have to ask here but it's easily granted, it's just a measure against spam bots)
01:04:58pixelmaChrisTheOne: glad it's working. The utility shouldn't crash though if it only sees a player in the wrong USB mode (and ideally warn about it)
01:05:33ChrisTheOneyes, it did warned the first 2 times, but the 3rd time it crashed..
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01:08:09martiipixelma: great I read about it
01:08:27martiipixelma: but I don't think I'll contribute much more
01:08:35martiipixelma: just one report that's all
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01:09:49pixelmahmm, someone volunteered to accept mails from people who just wanted to contribute one time, need to ask around who it was (and maybe he isn't arount at the moment)
01:10:46pixelmaor around
01:10:53martiipixelma: OK I'll come back later
01:11:01martiipixelma: thanks
01:11:26ChrisTheOnePixelma
01:11:43ChrisTheOnei got to the installing the boatloader part
01:11:55ChrisTheOnebut what file is the Sansa firmware?
01:12:15ChrisTheOnei read .bin, but i don't see a .bin file on it
01:13:22ChrisTheOnemtable.sys could be it, it's the biggest file in it...
01:13:40pixelmayou need to download it somewhere I think but I'm not too familiar with the newer Sansas' installation instructions. The manual should explain it
01:14:41soapmartii, if you email me all the info asked for in the wiki, I'll edit it for you. martii@cleansoap.org is a fine email address for you to use.
01:14:53ChrisTheOneallready got it
01:15:05martiisoap: ok
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01:15:28ChrisTheOnei accidentaly deleted it earlier :P
01:15:37martiisoap: this is entry about Griffin iTrip LCD
01:16:02soapok. email me all details and that would be great. I gotta run.
01:16:10martiisoap: will do - thanks
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01:25:09ChrisTheOne@pixelma: is it possible to play all the files instead of just 1 album?
01:25:30ChrisTheOneif i look into 'music' then it says i dont have anything there
01:25:54ChrisTheOne cuz i got everything in albums
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01:27:52ChrisTheOnepixelma?
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01:31:48ChrisTheOnepixelma?
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01:45:25AtlanxHello
01:45:52AtlanxI want to upload an FM-Radio Preset to the Rockbox-Wiki. How can i do it?
01:46:58AtlanxIt looks like i have to register me in the Wiki and then put it there at an Attachement. Is this right way of doing it?
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01:47:58AtlanxYour personal Foswiki topic MarkusStadler has been created
01:48:08AtlanxPlease note that you cannot edit any pages yet. Not even your personal page. You need to ask (in IRC preferrably)
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01:57:36moosHello Atlanx, you indeed canot edit wiki page without asking for permission before. To edit a Wiki page you have to be listed in our Wiki Users Group
01:57:51mooslet me few seconds and I'll add you
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02:00:02Atlanxthanks
02:01:38moosDone !
02:01:59moosYou can edit wiki pages now
02:05:11AtlanxOk, thanks. I will try uploading my Preset now.
02:05:51moosYou are welcome.
02:20:23alexbobPI had to exchange a broken sansa fuze, and all best buy had left was the fuze + :(
02:21:18alexbobPso I figured I'd give it a try... predictably, it's utter crap
02:21:34alexbobPapparently whoever designed it was so stoned they forgot to even put in a "hold" switch, so you can't even put the thing in your pocket
02:22:01alexbobPand it has pointless touch-sensitive buttons for some reason, so it's a pain to use...
02:22:13alexbobPand worst of all, even *crappier* OF than before and no rockbox! D:
02:25:28AtlanxOk, have added FM-Preset Germany: Landshut_Niederbayern to the wiki ( http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/FmPresetsEurope )
02:25:31Atlanxthx for help
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02:28:59moosNo problem, and thanks to you too
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03:25:55Atlanxgood night by by
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07:53:39dramaAnyone know I can install Rockbox on my iPod 5G Using a Macbook Pro?
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09:06:52bertrikamiconn, do you think the extra binsize for the new tea5767 detection is too much?
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09:13:40Stummicould a developler kindly apply my rockboy-patch to svn, please?
09:15:58Stummi*developer
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09:22:30wodzpixelma, AlexP: The caption for the screenshot of the fractals plugin is wrong in manual.
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09:32:07*TheSeven|Mobile wonders what to tackle next
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09:32:40TheSeven|Mobileaudio dma / clock scaling improvements?
09:33:35TheSeven|Mobiledoes rockbox buffering provide the neccessary infrastructure for double-buffered dma?
09:33:37StummiTheSeven|Mobile, i have an patch for rockboy which i want applied to svn :)
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09:34:00Stummijust if you don't know what to do *g*
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09:40:05TheSeven|Mobilewas that improved crossfeed patch ever applied?
09:40:38TheSeven|Mobilei just played around with crossfeed on my ride to work, and it doesn't seem to work quite right
09:42:59Stummierm no. I mean this: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11632
09:44:14Stummioh sry, misreaded this. You didn't meant me :)
09:49:24wodzStummi: maybe you will know - why there is condition in apps/plugins/SOURCES: #if PLUGIN_BUFFER_SIZE <= 0x20000 && defined(HAVE_LCD_BITMAP) for building rockboy, zxbox, chessbox goban and pictureflow
09:49:32wodzit looks weird to me
09:50:02wodzwhy we build this when buffer is small?
09:50:07pixelmathose are plugins that need the overlay loader
09:50:33Stummino, i don't know this
09:50:35bertrikTheSeven|Mobile, I worked on crossfeed but haven't applied anything yet
09:51:26bertrikThe adjustable delay for crossfeed is nice and has a big subjective effect, but it requires changes to ASM for various targets that I'm not familiar with
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09:51:49wodzpixelma: In this case I think there is a bug - iriver h100 has PLUGIN_BUFFER_SIZE 0x80000 which will mean this plugins will not be build
09:51:57pixelmawodz: and only this loader is handled in SOURCES, for the big mem targets inclusion of these plugins is handled in SUBDIRS (maybe the actual plugin in generel, don't know)
09:51:58bertrikThe currently used delay of 300 microseconds turns out to be actually a good choice anyway
09:52:33wodzpixelma: ok I'll look
09:52:37Stummipixelma, i think wodz wanted to point to the thing, that this should be "=>" instance of "<="
09:52:45pixelmano
09:52:54Stummiok
09:53:14pixelmaonly the low mem targets need the special loader
09:53:33wodzOk, now I see but this deserves comment at least
09:54:09wodzpixelma: have you seen my post about caption for fractals screenshot in manual?
09:55:05pixelmayes, haven't looked at the code yet
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10:03:08pixelmait's not completely wrong ;) but outdated. While the plugin was extended and renamed to possibly support others it still only supports the Mandelbrot set if I haven't missed anything
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10:03:51wodzyes but the caption is confusing a bit
10:04:07wodzother captions refer to plugin name
10:04:19pixelmashould be an easy fix
10:04:38wodzthis manual preparation drive me crazy :/
10:05:19pixelmaI think you can commit it in smaller chunks
10:06:30pixelmalike an initial commit with the platform files, then installation instructions, then screenshots, then buttontables (they don't need to happen all at once)
10:06:55wodzyeh this is good idea probably
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10:15:30pixelmawodz: there is a small comment in plugins/SOURCES right above, it's a bit simple and probably needs you to investigate further a bit if you aren't familiar with it yet: /* Overlays loaders */
10:16:08pixelmasmall typo in there maybe
10:17:48wodzpixelma: but SOURCE usually shows what will be compiled so this should state something like 'for targets with larger plugin buffer look at SUBDIRS' IMO
10:18:24wodzit's not big deal but I found this confusing when looking why rockboy is not compiled for hd200
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10:19:42pixelmaas far as I know SUBDIRS handles all plugins that are in well subdirs, SOURCES only the single file one so I think you are expected to look into both (or the "correct" one)
10:23:48pixelmahmm, maybe the confusion comes from the fact that the overlay loader source files are called exactly like the plugin's - so you have two "rockboy.c", one in the plugin directory (which is the loader) and one in a "rockboy" subdirectory
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10:51:21CIA-7New commit by 03bertrik (r28485): Correct spelling of 'seperate' in the skin parsing code - FS #11724 by Alexander Levin
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10:52:32notlisteningHi, all I know there is a pitch function in rockbox but is there a rate function to increase speed of the playback of a track?
10:52:59bertrikyes I think so
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10:59:06notlisteningwhere is it hidden?
10:59:30notlisteningor was that not a reply to me bertrik
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11:00:30PurlingNayukiI must Patch every files one by one... Is there any convenient way?
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11:01:28bertriknotlistening, it's in the pitch screen, this screen has several modes (pitch/rate/pitch+rate) that you can switch between
11:03:43notlisteningah right have to find those just getting used to the android version that and where to touch the screen :D
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11:08:48rasherDo we want a 20px artwiz-snap? - http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/9633?getfile=18089
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11:20:52notlisteningThe only difference that I can see on the pitch screen is the units that you adjust the pitch, is it possible the the touch screen screen does not allow you to adjust those settings between pitch/rate/pitch+rate
11:21:49pixelmanotlistening: look for "timestretch" in your player's Rovkbox manual
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11:22:16pixelma*Rockbox
11:22:22notlisteningah ok I have seen that before i will go have a look
11:22:26notlisteningsorry to be a pain
11:22:36pixelmawhat player is this?
11:23:59notlisteningDell Streak :P
11:24:01notlisteningAndroid
11:25:52rasherZagor, Bagder, LinusN: The font pack seems to not be getting updated automatically
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11:25:58pixelmanotlistening: then check another players manual ;) As long as you can switch the modes in the pitch screen it should work
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11:26:19pixelmabut needs to be enabled before
11:26:42notlisteningI have just enabled it which other target is touch screen?
11:27:06pixelmathe D2 manual is probably closest
11:27:25notlisteningThank pixelma
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11:32:04notlisteningHum right maybe a reboot in terms of Android as it runs as a service is not enough just to shutdown the app...?
11:36:10notlisteningAs i suspected it now gives me the options I wanted ;)
11:36:37notlisteningWhen the manual is written might be worth mentioning that you have to restart the phone
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12:05:22PurlingNayukiI must Patch every files one by one... Is there any convenient way?
12:05:26PurlingNayukiI must Patch every files one by one... Is there any convenient way?
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12:05:27PurlingNayukiI must Patch every files one by one... Is there any convenient way?
12:06:27Torneplease don't do that
12:07:01Torneif you mean it prompts you for each filename to tell yo uwhere it is, then you are using the wrong value for -p in patch
12:07:10Tornetry -p0 if you are using -p1 or vice versa
12:07:22PurlingNayukiI'm sorry. I don't want to either, but my network connection has some thing wrong.
12:07:35Tornehttp://www.rockbox.org/wiki/WorkingWithPatches <- see here
12:07:50PurlingNayukiI'm using -p0. But how if the file are in different folders?
12:08:10Tornepatch uses the path name..
12:08:26Tornerun it from the root directory of the source.
12:08:29gevaertswhich reminds me...
12:08:49Torneif that doesn't work then you are using the wrong -p, most likelu
12:09:01gevaertsZagor: would it be hard to tell flyspray to use diffstat with -p0?
12:09:02Tornepatches generated by some tools generally need -p1, other tools -p0, unfortunately
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12:10:12PurlingNayukiAll of my patches are created by svn under Ubuntu. How about the patches on Rockbox site?
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12:11:32Tornesvn, or bzr, or git, or diff :)
12:11:39Tornedepending on the preference of the author
12:13:53StummiPurlingNayuki, i create my patches by using "svn diff" from the svn-root
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12:16:52Stummisome users creating patch with a normal diff and comparing the orginal-sorce-tree and theirs. The first you have to apply with "patch -p0", the secound type with -p1
12:17:01Stummis/patch/patches/
12:17:25TorneStummi: some version control systems other than svn specifically add a dummy directory to the front of the paths so that the paatch works iwth -p1 to be consistent with diff
12:17:30Torne:)
12:17:39Torneso.. yeah. you just have to be able to use both :)
12:18:46Stummiapropos patch. I still want my rockboy-patch applied to svn. If a developer could kindly... :)
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12:21:14AlexPStummi: You've discovered the flaw in our plan - we always tell people to go and produce the patches, then when people call our bluff... :)
12:21:42dfktbertrik, did you create a new page for the meier crossfeed on the tracker already?
12:22:15Stummilol :D
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12:39:11n1shmm, my fuze only mounts over usb if i connect while it's off
12:39:38TorneStummi: i'll test it at the weekend if i remember ;)
12:39:59n1sotherwise it pretends the usb connection is a charger after initially displaying the usb plug screen for a second or two
12:46:10pixelman1s: the automatic reboot to the OF has been disabled because it caused a serious freeze for some people where the only way out was to fully drain the battery
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12:46:23pixelmaon the AMS Sansas
12:46:54n1spixelma: on amsv1 we have well working usb in rockbox
12:46:56pixelmayou could test pamaury's Rockbox USB patch for it though
12:47:03pixelmawe do?
12:47:13n1sthat problem is only for amsv2 afaiu
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12:50:27n1syes, the rockbox usb works nicely but for me it doesn't connect when plugged in while rockbox is running for some reason
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12:56:09StummiTorne, would be great. thanks
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12:59:33Songs_0f_Failurehi to all!
12:59:33Songs_0f_Failurei have some problems with Cue Support on my Sansa Clip+
12:59:33Songs_0f_Failurei get "Codec Failure" message -_-'
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13:02:01soapand you don't get a Codec Failure message when not using cue sheets?
13:02:46Songs_0f_Failureyep)
13:02:53Songs_0f_Failuredescription - http://anythingbutipod.com/forum/showpost.php?p=511438&postcount=1095
13:03:38Songs_0f_Failureby the way
13:03:38Songs_0f_FailureSecond problem with rockbox.org -
13:03:38Songs_0f_FailureWhere i can get latest Fonts ? (Fonts Pack not updating ? Is it a "bug" ?)
13:03:38DBUGEnqueued KICK Songs_0f_Failure
13:03:38Songs_0f_Failurehttp://www.rockbox.org/wiki/RockboxExtras
13:03:38Songs_0f_FailureIf you open rockbox-fonts.zip then you'll see in Date Modified column '24.09.2009' -_-
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13:03:39Songs_0f_FailureSizes of fonts different too. I compared it with with latest rb-builds.
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13:06:52mc2739Songs_0f_Failure: the 3.7 release fonts pack is here: http://download.rockbox.org/release/3.7/rockbox-fonts-3.7.zip
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13:21:30Songs_0f_Failured'oh. big thanks, mc2739!
13:21:30Songs_0f_FailureFont-pack updating only with new Realese ?
13:21:30Songs_0f_FailureI thought it builds like Rockbox Builds after every changes.
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13:25:06mc2739it used to build with the daily builds, but that appears to be broken now
13:25:29Stummiteru, the commont for my patch is from you, i am right?
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13:25:51teruStummi: yes.
13:27:27Stummiteru, i just tried with 100 savegames. It stucks for a few seconds, when i go to load/save-menu, but it does not crashes (sansa fuze v2).. would it suffice to limit the max slot count to 100?
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13:31:30Songs_0f_FailureI hope Fonts-pack updating will be fixed
13:33:44Songs_0f_Failurewhat about Codec Failure & Flac & Cue Support ?
13:33:46teruStummi: did you also try to load/save the data? from my experience, 2000 bytes is bit too many for stack. but i don't actually know where is border.
13:34:24Stummiteru, does this not depends on the device?
13:34:34n1steru: the main stack is usually 8k
13:34:50n1snano2g has a bigger stack i think
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13:36:21Stummiteru, hm, you are right. It seems to freeze when i try to load something
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13:44:38bertriksilly question, which number most closely resembles the the value 1 when used with FRACMUL?
13:45:03bertrikis it 0xffff.ffff or 0x7fff.ffff ?
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13:50:25wodzI just found news about rockbox 3.7 on polish site devoted to Open Source - http://osnews.pl/rockbox-3-7-wydany/ . The comments below the news are *VERY* positive.
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13:51:14n1sbertrik: not enough background, what is FRACMUL in this context?
13:51:33bertrika multiplication macro in dsp.h
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13:53:31n1sbertrik: they are signed so ffffffffff would be ~-1
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13:54:01n1suh. no
13:54:48n1sit would be ~ -0
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13:55:23n1s80000000 is about -1
13:55:34n1sand 7fffffff is about 1
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13:57:20bertrikthanks for confirming, I think my crossfeed filter is then off by a factor of two :(
13:57:50bertrikI'll do some white noise measurements again
13:58:27Stummiis there an easy way to make something like "make fullinstall" in a simdisk-directory, but not with copying the files but symlinking?
13:58:39Stummiespecialy the .rock-files
13:58:56n1sStummi: no
13:59:25Stummiwith a special reason or just because noobody needed this to yet? :)
13:59:49n1snoone has made the install script do that
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14:00:04Stummiok
14:00:24Stummii am not very fit with makefiles but maybe i can find out how to do that.
14:00:36StummiIt would be nice for continous developing
14:01:04Stummijust type "make && ./rockboxui" a new time after changing a file
14:01:43n1sit calls buildzip that makes a zip of the files that is then extracted to the simdisk dir so maybe start making it do a straight copy which should be much faster
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14:04:49teruwhen i test particular plugin on simulator, i often run sometihng like "var=/path/to/rock && make $ver && cp $ver simdisk/... && ./rockboxui"
14:04:53n1shmm, now only the sd card mounted, not the internal storage
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14:09:02mcuelenaerewodz: add it to the ArticlesAboutRockbox wiki page
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14:18:57AlexPwodz: For the manual you're adding, I'd do it in bits - as long as it doesn't break existing ones it doesn't matter if it doesn't work straight away
14:19:08AlexPAfter all, it doesn't work now :)
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14:26:11wodzAlexP: You mean workflow or svn commits?
14:26:47AlexPEither/both
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14:28:30Stummiteru, i uploaded a new patch with a limit to max 50 slots now
14:33:32pixelmateru: pong
14:34:47terupixelma: i think you said something about duplicating slash in the recording screen. maybe you can test FS #11725 to see if it fixes?
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14:37:00teruStummi: i'll try it later.
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14:42:03wodztummi: rockboy uses greylib on grey targets right?
14:42:44rasherkugel: Is the 480x800 build recent? I can't seem to play anything
14:43:34pixelmateru: JdGordon explained to me why it happens - did you see it? I haven't looked at your patch yet but will try later
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15:03:56qwdI see that this bug http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5035 is fixed but when I tried to add multiple tags to an ogg file with Ex Falso I only saw the last one added. Should I add the tags in a particular way?
15:04:45qwdOh wait, it's not due in any version. "Fixed" doesn't really mean fixed here does it?
15:06:31TorneAdditional comments about closing: Closing all feature requests.
15:06:40TorneAll feature requests got deleted.
15:06:51Torneso, no
15:07:04gevaertsArguably we shouldn't have set them to "fixed"
15:07:19Torneyeah probably not
15:08:31wodzTorne: about your S.M.A.R.T implementation - what about CFed minis for example? CFs doesn't support smart usually
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15:10:25Tornewodz: well then it won't report anything
15:10:30Tornei've not submitted it yet, anyway, been too busy
15:11:10wodzTorne: I meant to check first if drive support SMART
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15:13:07Tornewell of course it checks..
15:13:34Torneit has to check if it's enabled as well
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15:36:51saratogawhat are the issues involved with getting android builds into the build system?
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16:27:30ChrisTheOneanyone here who can help with my crashing Rockbox on my Sansa Clip?
16:27:37mcuelenaeresaratoga: looks like the we're able to build debug-signed apk's from the makefiles, so I guess only some (minor) modifications are needed to the build system (something like make zip && make apk)
16:27:46mcuelenaeres/the//
16:27:58ChrisTheOnei got an *panic* audio reset_buffer
16:28:06ChrisTheOnewhen it boots
16:28:10mcuelenaere(keep in mind I'm not up2date on current Rockbox work)
16:30:08ChrisTheOneanyone?
16:33:31bertrikChrisTheOne, possibly some old buggy rockbox version (which are you running now?) or maybe file system corruption
16:34:01ChrisTheOne3.7, so not so old buggy :P
16:34:12bertrikIs it a v1 or v2 clip?
16:34:14CIA-7New commit by 03mcuelenaere (r28490): Android port: remove obsoleted build.sh shell script
16:34:15ChrisTheOneV1
16:34:42ChrisTheOnei got the v1.0.35 firmware from sansa
16:34:52ChrisTheOneit's the latest
16:35:14bertrikI don't know what the problem is exactly. You could back up your audio files somewhere, then reformat the player from the original firmware and put your audio files back.
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16:38:45bertrikand reinstall rockbox again (there's no need to install the bootloader again)
16:39:11ChrisTheOnedunno why, but my music is gone
16:39:14ChrisTheOnewell
16:39:25ChrisTheOnei dont know where it is exactly on the player
16:40:14ChrisTheOneall the maps are empty..
16:40:38saratogathat usually means you switched USB modes
16:40:40ChrisTheOnenormally, under Sandisk's firmware, it was under 'albums' ,
16:40:46ChrisTheOneyeah, its in MSC mode
16:40:59ChrisTheOneneeded to do that for the Rockbox installation
16:41:23bertrikThe sandisk firmware may have put them in ##MUSIC#, but that directory is only visible in rockbox
16:41:33saratogai think installing the bootloader will actually put you into MTP mode, not MSC mode
16:42:03ChrisTheOnechanged it back to MSC mode because of reinstalling Rockbox, so thats why
16:42:32bertrikMaybe you can get at your audio files by switching to MTP mode, copying them, then switching back to MSC mode
16:42:50ChrisTheOnei got it in autodetection mode and got i all back :)
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16:51:09Alchimystawhat is the ultimate firmware released for sansa fuze?
16:51:46alexbobProckbox, obviously
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16:52:54*LambdaCalculus37 thinks that exchange is pretty full of win :)
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17:00:48ChrisTheOneso... music backupped, formatted, now installing Rockbox again :)
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17:08:35ChrisTheOnethanks guys, rockbox is up and running again :)
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17:17:27CIA-7New commit by 03mcuelenaere (r28491): Android port: add a CLI APK install+launch script, useful for quick installation
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17:21:03Alchimystatanto non mi capite pezzi di merda froci! hahahah xD00
17:21:21Alchimysta00 tanto non mi capite pezzi di merda froci! hahahah xD
17:21:26gevaertsAlchimysta: stop it
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17:29:04Alchimysta00ho bisogno di un aiuto e nessuno mi aiuta...
17:29:37n1sAlchimysta: english only, please. You have been told that numerous times btw.
17:31:09AlchimystaSomeone else who speaks Italian, translator sucks and I can not explain my problems! Help me!
17:33:21AlchimystaHelp me!
17:33:48kugelthe sdl app seems broken
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17:34:53kugelit quickly allocates *lots* of ram, until the system is OOM
17:34:57Luca_SAlchimysta: I'm Italian. Ask your question in query and I'll try to help you.
17:35:28AlchimystaThanks *>*
17:37:59kugelwth, r28478 also changed the allocation for the sim
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17:44:31kugelthat needs to be undone imo
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17:58:26rasherkugel: quite. The sim certainly needs to act like the targets wrt memory allocation
17:58:49rasherEr, assuming you don't actually mean r28478
17:59:37kugelI don't mean the whole
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18:04:21CIA-7New commit by 03bertrik (r28493): Implement tea5767 tuner detection - FS #11714 by me
18:05:30mcuelenaerehmm, is the YesNoActivity supposed to crash?
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18:10:21kugelmcuelenaere: yes, new feature :)
18:10:28mcuelenaereah ok :)
18:10:37mcuelenaerekugel: same for keyboard? (when pressing no)
18:10:38kugelwell, not the crash of course
18:10:42mcuelenaereoh
18:11:03mcuelenaereW/dalvikvm( 558): JNI WARNING: invalid null pointer (Check_ReleaseStringUTFChars)
18:11:07mcuelenaerefor both crashes
18:11:13kugelit didn't crash for me last time I used it
18:11:58kugelpressing no doesn't actually work anyway
18:12:34kugel(regardless of the crash)
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18:26:44rasherkugel: well r28478 is a commit tot he manual from where I'm sitting
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18:27:13kugelI don't understandn
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18:36:07dnivrahello. I am trying to install rockbox on my apple iPod shuffle(1GB). I downloaded rockbox utility. could someone tell me what category does shuffle come in rockbox utility?
18:36:45Torneit doesn't, the shuffle is not supported
18:37:00Torneif it was, it would be listed on the main page and in the utility
18:37:25dnivraTorne, oh bummer! i thought it would be one of the 1st, 2nd or 3rd gen.
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18:44:09kugelok, it didn't break the sdl app, it breaks only when a theme fails to load
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18:49:37rasherkugel: http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi?view=rev&revision=28478 didn't change any allocation I should hope?
18:50:30saratogadid anyone ever find a hardware revision number or something for the AMS players? it seems like theres a bunch of weird versions floating around
18:50:37kugelrasher: I mean 28480, sorry
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18:50:54kugelI had the previous revision in the clipboard because I pasted it to revert locally to check if it's the cause :)
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18:58:36devrandomI'm trying to build rockbox from source
18:58:45devrandombuilt the cross compiler
18:58:57devrandomno stuck at:
18:59:04devrandomapps/action.c:26:18: error: lang.h: No such file or directory
18:59:14devrandomdid I forget something?
18:59:58devrandomtried trunk and branches/v3.7
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19:00:41low_lightbertrik: can you add PHILIPS_HDD6330 to the define in tea5767_init too
19:01:11bertriklow_light, I thought the HDD6330 always had this tuner
19:01:14saratogadevrandom: usually that means your build got screwed up and you need to run make clean, then configure again
19:01:43devrandomok, I'll try
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19:03:31devrandomseems to do the trick. thanks!
19:04:03low_lightbertrik: The HDD63x0 series is defined as PHILIPS_HDD6330. The 6330 has the tuner, the 6320 does not. But they both run the same build
19:05:20bertrikok, I'll add it
19:05:39low_lightSame for the HDD16x0 series (PHILIPS_HDD1630): 1630 has tuner, 1620 does not
19:06:11low_lightAnd the HDD18x0 series runs the 16x0 builds as well :)
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19:06:38low_lightbut there's not a separate port for the HDD18x0
19:06:58LambdaCalculus37The HDD18x0 is the same as the HDD16x0, just with an 8GB microdrive.
19:07:19LambdaCalculus37low_light: Although I haven't seen the HDD18x0 in the wild. :)
19:07:54LambdaCalculus37low_light: Do you remember if there was a UMS mode for the SA9200 like on the HDD models? I'm trying similar button combinations but keep getting the Recovery mode and the 16MB rescue drive.
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19:09:02low_lightI have one, somewhere. I think it's an hdd1835. Looks the same as the 1630. Don't know what the extra "5" means.
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19:10:59low_lightLambdaCalculus37: I don't believe there's a UMS mode for the SA9200, just recovery. I'm sure I tried every possible key combo at some point :)
19:12:01LambdaCalculus37low_light: I wonder what's different with the HDD1635/1835 versus the 1630/1830.
19:14:17low_lightLambdaCalculus37: Don't know. But doesn't seem to be anything significant
19:15:11bertrikDo they use a unified firmware for the OF too?
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19:26:36low_lightbertrik: thanks!
19:30:29low_lightI wonder if I can setup a "cloud" build machine using Amazon ec2 with a ubuntu image.
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19:40:11kugelfound the culprit
19:43:24kugeldid we ever consider __attribute__((warn_unused_result))?
19:43:41kugelit would've been of great help for the bug I've tracked down
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19:55:40kerradephanyone else have a sansa fuze V2 and running windows 7?
19:57:52saratogajust ask a question
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19:57:58mcuelenaerehttp://efreedom.com/Question/1-1083154/Can-Catch-SIGSEGV-Segmentation-Fault-Get-Stack-Trace-JNI-Android could be interesting to implement
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20:03:31kerradephanyone?
20:03:59kerradephI tried installing it but it can't find it in the meadia mode and it can't update in the file mode
20:04:33kerradephlet me clarify, the installer can't find my sansa while it is in the media mode
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20:11:09devrandomkerradeph: just did my fuze v1 with manual installation
20:11:57kerradephok, I guess I will try that
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20:50:11mcuelenaerekugel: well I meant more in general, not only related to your patch
20:50:25kugelI realized that
20:50:43kugeland so I also meant in general :)
20:50:49mcuelenaerecurrently it will silently fail on most stuff I guess
20:50:59mcuelenaereat least some warning in logcat would be nice :)
20:51:11kugelit'll simply force close
20:51:32kugeldid you experience a failure?
20:51:43mcuelenaerekugel: NewDirectByteBuffer could throw an OutOfMemory exception
20:51:44mcuelenaereno
20:51:49mcuelenaereit's just good coding practice :)
20:52:13kugelwe can't sensibly continue if one of the object instantiation fails, so whether we check or not, we're doomed and have to exit
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20:52:59kugelwe could have ASSERT() for debug builds but I don't think it's needed in normal builds
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20:53:45mcuelenaerehmm the VM will probably give some hints to what caused the failure, if one would occur
20:54:02mcuelenaereso perhaps there wouldn't even need to be an assert
20:54:02kugelhow can NewDirectByteBuffer throw OOm if it's based on static storage?
20:54:40kugelyea, I bet there'll be logcat output about failure anyway
20:54:58mcuelenaereeh I just picked a JNI call that looked like it could alloc some memory as example :)
20:55:16kugelhehe :)
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20:55:33kugelNewDirectByteBuffer though just wraps a java object around already allocated memory :P
20:55:37mcuelenaere(I wouldn't be surprised if that call results in a malloc though, doesn't it create a Java object?)
20:55:50mcuelenaereyes I just realised that :)
20:56:29kugelI don't think we need defensive coding here
20:56:59mcuelenaereand it does: http://google.com/codesearch/p?hl=en#atE6BTe41-M/vm/Jni.c&q=NewDirectByteBuffer&sa=N&cd=1&ct=rc but I guess this is getting off-topic :)
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23:04:37soapmcuelenaere, Is the Onda 747 usable w/o the stylus? Is it finger friendly?
23:05:01mcuelenaeresoap: it is usable, if you have a big-enough font
23:05:32mcuelenaerealthough somethings aren't optimized yet, like returning to the home screen is a bit hit-and-miss
23:05:33soapthank you
23:05:39mcuelenaere(accuracy around the edges isn't that good)
23:06:49mcuelenaerekeep in mind that this is a resistive touchscreen, which'll never be as finger friendly as a capacitive
23:07:29soapright, but since I've never used a capacitive one in my life I won't know what I'm missing.
23:09:01kugelmcuelenaere: you could increase the default font, the current is only 16px isn't it?
23:09:24mcuelenaerekugel: yes, hence I said "if you have a big-enough font"
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23:09:52kugelyea, why not default to a bigger font?
23:10:53CIA-7New commit by 03alle (r28501): More concrete names for the head and the tail of the linked list (no functional changes)
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23:11:34kugelmcuelenaere: hehe, just had a case of GetMethodID failure
23:11:48kugel(because I failed to recompile correctly)
23:12:00kugelbut the logcat output is sufficient
23:12:02mcuelenaerekugel: hehe, did the VM point out the failure?
23:12:03mcuelenaereok
23:12:31kugelit's better than any WARN_ON we could make
23:12:34CIA-7r28501 build result: All green
23:13:00mcuelenaerekugel: IIRC I set the default font size at a pretty good value, as I'm not using my VX747 anymore I can't give a better suggestion
23:13:35kugeljudging from my legend which has about the same dpi, 16-adobe would be way too small for me
23:15:53kugelmcuelenaere: http://pastie.org/1276003 :(
23:16:25mcuelenaerehmm I have had Makefile/Android toolchain issues too
23:16:27mcuelenaerebut not that one
23:16:35mcuelenaereusually removing the file or re-running make apk fixed it
23:17:30*Strife89 wonders why FS #9633 is still open.
23:20:46kugelah gen dir wasn't created
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23:34:32S_a_i_n_tFarthen brought this to my attention http://download.rockbox.org/daily/manual/rockbox-ipodnano2g/rockbox-buildch3.html#x5-280003.1.2 I had been wondering why so many people seem to think that molding menu+select on the ipods == reboot (for example, when database init asks to reboot the player so changes can take effect) and I beilive Farthen found it. At the very least the wording in the manual need be changed. Some form of statement actively discouragin
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23:36:38Farthenat least something needs to be done on this matter because there are *many* people who reboot rockbox with menu+select on the nano 2g
23:36:53Farthenand this can cause serious ftl trouble
23:37:58S_a_i_n_tWell, a lot less trouble now, after TheSeven's extensive work on the matter...but only if the user has an emBIOS/iLoader'd Nano2G
23:40:56TheSevenS_a_i_n_t: weren't you saying that you didn't manage to break a rockbox bootloader installation that way?
23:41:10TheSevenbut still, menu+select resets have nothing to do with regular reboots
23:41:38TheSeveni know there is no other way of exiting the apple firmware, but this table in the manual is highly misleading
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23:42:53S_a_i_n_tI have had all my .tcd files horribly corrupted using that key combo to reboot, but I haven't had anything anywhere near some of the troubles people have been having in #freemyipod
23:43:20TheSevenyes, fs level corruption is to be expected, but not ftl level corruption
23:43:50S_a_i_n_tnothing I couldn't fix myself...but I seem to have had some remarkable luck with the Rb bootloader.
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23:45:26TheSevenno "use itunes to restore"?
23:48:37TheSevenbtw, does anybody want to try an all-in-one automated installation with iloader by just copying a file to the ipod?
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23:50:04S_a_i_n_tTheSeven: Nope, I have not had that since the days when everyone was having the WSOD's on a daily basis. It does bother me somewhat however, that that was never fixed and that it simply "fixed" itself.
23:50:23S_a_i_n_tIt makes me think it could decide to come back whenever it wants to.
23:50:37*TheSeven honestly doesn't want to bisect that :/
23:51:15S_a_i_n_tYes, I'm quite glad in a way that it "fixed" itself...but on the other hand it bother me.
23:51:23S_a_i_n_t*bothers
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