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#rockbox log for 2011-01-23

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00:07:21Buschelpeadar: I saw your pasted patch yesterday and attached it to FS #11863
00:08:35Buschelpeadar: to me it sounds like this could be a reason for several issue that are reported with svn for a while...
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00:18:47ScarabDrownerabout FS #11894, were the volume buttons left unchanged by design, or was it just an oversight?
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00:29:27dionoeakugel: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11902
00:29:50dionoeait pretty much works (there are a few details to iron out)
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00:38:53S_a_i_n_tdionoea: One problem I see immediately...is that we need a new graphic for next/prev
00:38:58S_a_i_n_tusing ffwd lookd odd.
00:39:02S_a_i_n_t*looks
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00:39:21S_a_i_n_tother than that, looks awesome.
00:40:21dionoeayou'd need to change the cabbiev2 wps too then :) (but sure, it would make sense to have >>| like graphic for next)
00:40:32S_a_i_n_tno...you wouldn't.
00:40:43S_a_i_n_tcabbie .wps doesn't use next/prev icons.
00:40:51dionoeawell cabbiev2 uses >> for next (and << for prev) on the android version at least
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00:41:21dionoeain the lower left corner when you touch the wps
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00:41:47S_a_i_n_tthat's plain wrong...I haven't seen "the android version", as there isn't simply one.
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00:42:03S_a_i_n_tI'm not saying it doesn't, I'm saying it's wrong that it does.
00:42:15S_a_i_n_tit *should* be ">>|"
00:42:43dionoeaI can only agree. (to be fair I don't really care as long as it works)
00:43:10S_a_i_n_tI care, as I see >>/<< and >>|/|<< as pretty universal.
00:43:22S_a_i_n_tIf we're breaking that knowingly, it should be fixed.
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00:43:42kisakI concur S_a_i_n_t
00:46:24S_a_i_n_tthe work you've done is great though dionoea, don't take it the wrong way ;)
00:46:27S_a_i_n_tit looks good.
00:47:22dionoeaa few details still need fixing: the event which clears the current track info is sent a bit too early (something like 3 seconds before the track actually ends)
00:47:58dionoeaand clicking play if the rockbox application hasn't already been lauchned once since you started the OS doesn't work
00:48:43dionoeafixing that last item would probably require moving stuff out of the RockboxActivity startup code and into the RockboxService one
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01:51:43sideralScarabDrowner: I don't know
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01:54:43sideralgevaerts: Re FS corruption issue: I've instrumented the SD driver to check for the suspicious (possibly corrupt) pattern just after reading data from the card, mainly to rule out that the SD driver was introducing the spurious corruption. But now I see that apparently the spurious corruption is already seen by the SD driver...
01:55:52sideralIt's too late to double check this now... but it is worrying
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02:28:56foolshI ran a second test on FS #11899 and all seems OK. The problem with replacing the old catch all with the keymap or error way of doing things, means I can only be sure up to 99.9% that it will not break something. If a Dev feels brave please commit
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03:02:25foolshIs the code for android screen size independence going to be add to flyspray? Or are you worried about someone signing an apk and loading it to market? I would like to take a crack at trying to port over some plugins to this new way of handling screen size.
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03:22:17FBI_Guycool
03:23:09S_a_i_n_tfoolsh: what plugins exactly?
03:23:35S_a_i_n_tas I understand it...it's not really been a priority to include plugins, as most of them are pretty much useless.
03:24:19S_a_i_n_tviewers and codecs, sure.
03:25:54S_a_i_n_tI'm not sure there's a definitive list of what plugins will be included or not.
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03:27:51foolshThats debatable, its not about what one person wants, but about choice too choose what you do want. I have most if not all of them compiling already for android as long as the screen size of the target is one of the already built in one. see FS #11898
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03:29:10[Saint]It is debatable, yes.
03:30:10[Saint]I don't see people spending too much time with the games, personally.
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03:30:32[Saint]there's a use for some plugins though.
03:34:43[Saint]pictureflow, fft, oscilloscope, lrcplayer, mpegplayer...spring to mind.
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04:42:27[Saint]bieber: Just noticed that there's a seperate tab for "volume changing" in Misc. and that changing the current volume in Hardware Status doesn't make volume changine == true.
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04:42:46[Saint]took me an age to figure out the code I was looking at wasn't broken ;)
04:43:36bieberHmm, interesting
04:43:58bieberHow long is volume changing normally true after you change the volume on device?
04:44:56[Saint]depends on the value specified, %?mv(<blah>) I *think* the default is 2 seconds.
04:45:45[Saint]it's not a huge deal, I just noticed that changing the volume didn't make %mv true in the ditor ;)
04:45:56[Saint]*editor, even.
04:52:09bieberHmm, I'm not sure if that would be a good idea to change or not
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05:58:53tom__Hi like normal i am trying to install something rockbox like where it shouldn't be
05:59:18tom__I have Adroid running on i386 platform 2.2 and have tried to install rockbox
05:59:40tom__it just fails and i am unsure how to get and more feedback other than application failed to install
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06:28:26foolshAny devs want to look over my last update to FS #11898 I feel its ready for a commit. It compiles against current svn with no errors of course and no warnings either. It should not even get compiled by default because plugins="" is set false in the configure script, thank you.
06:28:36*foolsh will be standing by
06:29:16[Saint]foolsh: The challen is logged.
06:29:21[Saint]*channel
06:30:34foolshyea i know
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06:30:41foolshyeah*
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06:31:43[Saint]yeah, sorry. that's the polite way of saying "Once is enough" ;)
06:32:36foolshdifferent FS# entry
06:34:53[Saint]this isn't the first time you've mentioned it, though.
06:35:16foolshYeah thanks
06:35:18[Saint]there was a global "hey, look what I did" some hours ago.
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06:37:03foolshsorry just eager to on to actually working on the getting the individual plugins smoothed out.
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07:02:21foolshI think devs need to discuss protecting the rockbox trademark by offering a signed beta apk to market before some jack wagon pulls some dumb stuff like what happened to that other open source app not to long ago but I can't think of the name right now.
07:02:43foolshwas it mplayer?
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07:41:53bieberWasn't it a game? I think I saw the story on Reddit today
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10:04:32PurlingNayukiTheSeven: Hi!
10:05:37PurlingNayukiTheSeven: I want to know if I've already have a ftl from another system, how can I port it to Rockbox?
10:05:42PurlingNayukiThanks.
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13:28:10Buschelis popping noise during playback on clip+ a known issue of the port?
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13:33:33CIA-7r29119 build result: All green
13:33:33CIA-7New commit by 03Buschel (r29119): Remove code that was unintentionally kept in a resynchronized patch in FS #3001. This closes FS #11873.
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13:38:08preglowanyone know if the wiki android builds are relatively recent?
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13:41:56S_a_i_n_tpreglow: they're not *ancient*, but not recent afaik.
13:42:05S_a_i_n_twhat resolution do you need?
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13:48:18preglow320x480
13:48:20preglowlegend
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14:07:44bertrikBuschel, no, I don't get popping noise during playback
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14:12:43Buschelbetrik: can take a look at FS #11851 ? there is a link to a forum thread where such noise was recorded and is clearly audible
14:13:19Buschelbertrik: just to make sure you can train your ears to hear this kind of artifact :)
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14:19:45bertrikCan't hear it on the first try :)
14:25:05bertrikI know the e200 still has a mystery click/pop problem, but only on very specific tracks
14:25:25amiconndionoea: The "current track info is cleared too early" thing is a really long-standing bug on swcodec
14:26:58amiconnThe info is cleared when codecs are switched, the actual track switch is delayed by the pcm buffering (which is necessary for proper gapless, and also for crossfade if enabled)
14:29:41dionoeahum right. I guess that I could work something out using the Intents I added in the java pcm driver.
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14:32:30dionoeaamiconn: wouldn't it be possible to send the even from the pcm code? (to prevent that delay)
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14:36:31fmlI'm looking at the scrolling code and think that the timings (initial scroll delay and the delay between rounds) are set not quite correctly. E.g. the piece with "2 * delay": it should rather be "delay + tick" (tick being the scroll requency)
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14:46:19amiconnBuschel: ping
14:47:40bertrikBuschel, I still find it very hard to hear, but I can see it now in audacity as a small discontinuity, as if the playback goes back about 14 samples
14:47:45Buschelbertrik: I didn't hear it at the first try as well. best thing is to compare both rockbox.flac and stock_firmware.flac (at playback time from 30s to 40s)
14:47:50Buschelamiconn: pong
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14:48:42Buschelbertrik: good, so it is really a discontinuous wave form... sounds like pcm driver...
14:48:46amiconnLCD in current SVN is completely broken on ipod Photo.
14:49:11Buschelamiconn: can you backtrace the version this came in?
14:49:28bertriksomething was changed quite recently in the PCM driver, relating to pre- or postincrementing the number of bytes left IIRC
14:49:51Buschelbertrik: this was reported with 3.7.1 and the latest pcm driver version
14:50:15amiconnNeed to bisect
14:50:30*S_a_i_n_t wonders how different the Phtot/Color actually are
14:50:37S_a_i_n_t*Photo too
14:50:43amiconnThe LCD controller is very different
14:50:57Buschelamiconn: just check pre-r29033 against current at a first step
14:52:04Buschelamiconn: I would expect this to be the biggest change
14:54:38Buschelamiconn: does the LCD show crap or flipped or nothing at all?
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14:55:10amiconnIt shows a few pixels in the wrong location
14:55:52amiconnOn startup only the leftmost and the rightmost pixel columns are updated at all. In the center the apple logo stays
14:56:21amiconnYou can shut down normally with long Play, which shows something that vaguely resembles a splash, but not readable and in the wrong location
14:57:07Buschelhmm, first idea is to roll back the power-off stuff as it also implemented some init-stuff.
14:57:18Buschelif this the root cause we can check some other stuff
14:58:27Buschelmaybe you have one of those lcd_type=2 controllers which we could not really test before −− as there was none available
14:59:14amiconnAfaik there are two LCD types. One uses the same controller as the H300, the other uses a very different controller, probably the internal one of the PP5020
14:59:42Buschelthe power-on/off stuff identifies and handles 3 different types
14:59:43amiconnThe latter has a different window addressing scheme, and no public docs
14:59:49Buschel0/2, 1 and 3
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15:00:40Buschelwell, let's see what the bisect brings
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15:01:52amiconnr29032 is not far enough
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15:02:46Buschelgood, then I expect this can be fixed easier −− as soon as we know which change it was :)
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15:12:17amiconnr28942 works
15:12:30amiconnErr, I mean r28943
15:12:44Buschelchecking
15:15:01amiconnr28944 (which I suspected) works too
15:15:45Buschelso, only r28956 is left as cuase
15:15:49Buschel*cause
15:20:34Buschelamiconn: can you confirm this?
15:26:58amiconnworking on it...
15:27:53*amiconn switched to proper biescting
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15:37:10amiconnBlargh, file system errors
15:47:37n1shmm, something is weird with usb, h300 just fell back to default theme and sysfont after usb disconnect and "Files" was empty, exiting and reentering shows the filesystem
15:48:19amiconnBuschel: It's definitely r28956
15:49:57pixelmais there any known issue (at least on some phones) with RaaA and playback from a microSDHC. I just tried and with my 8GB card I got stuck playback after a few second of stuttery playback (it seemed to happen at the time I tried to reduce the volume)
15:49:57*amiconn will look into this calculation stuff
15:56:44Buschelamiconn: ok. when I checked the conditions in the if-statements I came to the conclusion that "y1<y0" is always false and "x1<x0" is always true.
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15:59:03Buschelso, y0 and y1 are unchanged in r28956. x0 and x1 are recomputed due to beautification −− it would have been possible to simply replace x1 with x0 and vice versa.
15:59:16Buschellet me know if you find the issue...
15:59:39Buschelor find any suspicious thing...
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16:18:21n1shmm, something is screwy with my h300, now the viewers list is empty
16:22:41n1sah, no that was my fault, apparently a make zip after make clean && make bin && make codecs creates an empty viewers.conf
16:27:30n1sthe no-theme-after-usb is totally reproducible though
16:29:02n1sdoes not affect the beast though so maybe something related to hw usb?
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16:32:00piggzlo...should i be able to play .aac files on my ipod video?
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16:34:41n1swe only support aac in a mp4 container, iirc .aac files are raw
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16:35:32piggzn1s: ok, i will re-encode them....i used get_iplayer to download some radio shows and it produced .aac files
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16:37:49droghello
16:38:28n1sah we also support aac in rm containers
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16:38:53drogdoes anybody connect a iriver imp-550 to PC?
16:39:04drogover usb
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16:41:08krazykitdrog, that's not a device supported by rockbox
16:41:58drogbut there is saa7750el the same on ifp790
16:42:10Buschelamiconn: any findings? I reviewed again and cannot find any bug... but as I wrote the code I might be overseeing something :/
16:42:37drogdatasheet says it possible
16:43:55drogusb port on board imp 550/ see bottom
16:44:46drogThe SAA7750 USB interface can be used for: • Down load bulk audio data (compressed) from a PC to the application with the SAA7750 • Download new firmwarde from a PC into the build-in program FLASH • Up load speech or audio from a (analog) source to a PC
16:44:47stripwaxdrog - rockbox is not available to run on that device - so presumably you are asking a non-rockbox-related question
16:45:16stripwaxsounds like you might be asking a generic iriver support question
16:46:21drogthe board has usb connector
16:46:39n1sit is also a CD player
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16:48:33drogThis has saa7750el support MMC and SD cards
16:57:02drogafter connection with a PC, you can compile rockbox firmware to read music from the sd or MMC card
16:57:16gevaertsReally?
16:57:22stripwaxdrog - it really isn't that simple. I'm not sure exactly what you're asking, but if you want help on connecting your iriver device to your PC, I think you might be in the wrong place
16:57:34drogi hope
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16:57:55stripwaxdrog - if you're asking for help on compiling your own rockbox build for your device, then you're in the right place but it really isn't as simple as "just compiling it on your pc"
16:58:39stripwaxa lot of work has to happen. just because it uses the same USB chipset or same CPU etc etc as an existing device, doesn't mean rockbox will 'just work'. what about the memory interface, flash device, lcd, etc etc.
16:59:15stripwaxdrog - please read this wiki page. http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/NewPort
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17:03:41amiconnBuschel: Your x0/x1 calculation is correct (but not optimal), yet the problem is obvious
17:04:09*Buschel is curious
17:04:20amiconnIn the old code, x0/x1 and y0/y1 were only swapped for the new lcd type. Th eold one used it as is
17:04:55amiconnThis can be solved by setting the correct update direction in the lcd controller
17:05:20amiconnI already tested the various possible bits some time ago. Hope I can find my results
17:05:57amiconnHmm, actually one could swap the registers...
17:06:41pixelmacould someone tell me where fonts etc. go on the card in the Android port (is it the rockbox folder)?
17:07:13amiconnSo the quick fix would be to undo r28956, and then swap x0 and x1 in the 'else' part only (lines 176 and 178)
17:07:37pixelmaor point me to the documentation - I saw the AndroidPort page but that doesn't seem to tell me
17:07:38amiconnHmm no - then it would be wrong for the Nano
17:07:55*amiconn tries something
17:08:11drogtomorrow i will trying connect to pc my imp-550 over usb on ubuntu
17:08:38drogi am interesting what says comman lsusb
17:09:27Buschelahh, now I got it. bad thing... why not swapping x0/x1 in the if-path and ifdef'ing this swapping for IPOD_COLOR?
17:10:04drogalso i want to install or adjust supprt reading sd mmc cards instead cd rom
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17:11:52Buschelamiconn: or really just reverting r28956 w/o any additional changes. that's how this section of code worked for years
17:12:28drogto stripwax: and who is now easy?
17:12:31amiconnThe conditional swap is unnecessary in rockbox, as you said
17:13:20amiconnA quick fix is easy, I just don't know whether a nano with a type 0 lcd exists
17:13:47amiconnAnyway, this update direction stuff is interesting because it allows for faster yuv blitting
17:14:00amiconn(set the update windows for every two-line block)
17:14:45Buschelamiconn: ok, so we need to keep the x0/x1 swapping. and the question is whether to add it to the if- or the else-path. due to the nature of x0/x1 this is only needed for LCD_IPODCOLOR
17:14:59amiconnWe do not need it...
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17:16:55stripwaxdrog - I don't understand your question, sorry. "who is now easy"?
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17:21:47drogit is mean that you said earler about simplity of porting
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17:23:16drogthere was interested in 2007 http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?action=printpage;topic=13497.0
17:23:58Buschelamiconn: does this patch solve the issue for you? -> http://pastie.org/1490135 if so, I would like to submit this fix to have a minor-change fix in svn. afterwards further optimization −− e.g. the direction stuff you're talking about −− can go in.
17:24:54CIA-7New commit by 03amiconn (r29120): Simplify x0/x1 calculation for iPod Color some more, and fix display on type 0 LCD (iPod Photo).
17:25:58amiconnI can't add the direction stuff right now anyway because I can't find my notes regarding that lcd controller atm
17:26:25amiconnI may have it somewhere at home, otherwise I'll have to re-test
17:27:19Buschelbtw, could you update the numbers on the LCD performance page?
17:28:34CIA-7r29120 build result: All green
17:30:49Buschelamiconn: it is interesting that the different devices have significanlty different LCD performance (e.g. comparing your measurements with the latest by Saint). this sounds similiar like the difference in the LCD IF configuration on the iPod nano 2G's. do you have any idea where PP502x's clock divider configuration for its color LCD bridge is?
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17:37:02stripwaxdrog - that looks like a useful start. however given that there is no encode tool (as stated in the link you provided), you will have no way to modify the firmware yourself. you would also need to implement your own mmc driver and somehow modify the existing firmware to do this; or indeed set about porting rockbox yourself. since there is no existing rockbox port for the imp500
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17:39:51stripwaxdrog - this page lists all the devices that rockbox has been ported successfully to, including work-in-progress ports and ports that are barely started. imp500 is not listed at all. There will likely be significant work to be done (by an interested developer with access to the hardware - i.e. you) http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/TargetStatus#Pre_45Development_Ports
17:42:55stripwaxdrog - also the IFP port was never completed so it's not obvious how much could be reused from that - in particular the flash disk driver was never completed. http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IriverIfpPort
17:43:17BuschelS_a_i_n_t: is FS #11821 still happening? or was it fixed with r29081?
17:43:55*pixelma seems to be able to hear "disk" access on that phone very distinctively
17:44:19drogthks for info
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18:04:49*bluebrother wonders why Rockbox Utility is voicing all strings then encoding instead of encoding each string after it has been voiced
18:05:41bluebrotherthat could be helpful for voices that don't allow voicing more than one string at the same time
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18:07:38Buschelamiconn: could you remeasure and update LcdFrameRate for your iPod Photo?
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18:49:46bluebrotherhmm, the h100 can play radio while USB connected. Would be nice to allow adjusting the volume too
18:50:23domonokybluebrother: rbutil has done it this way earlier.. but it was changed to allow encoding/ voicing in more then one thread to use more then one cpu
18:51:20domonokyie encode parallel, but do voicing sequenciell
18:51:26bluebrotherdomonoky: the current code voices all strings, then encodes them. At least for me.
18:52:11domonokyyes, but earliert rbutil versions didnt..
18:52:18bluebrotherhow should we credit FS #11811? The original task is a feature request and therefore should get rejected. I'm thinking of committing the patch attached later and credit the author of that
18:52:35bluebrotherdomonoky: oh really? At least here it would be nice to do it differently.
18:53:07bluebrotherbut the whole voicing thing could need some love. It's still broken since the multithread change for some setups (though none of mine)
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18:54:33domonokyyes, the voicing could need some love.. but this change was done intentionally to allow paralell processing.
18:55:06bluebrotherI don't see a reason why parallel processing shouldn't be able to have both a thread for voicing and encoding running the same time
18:55:33bluebrotheri.e. create number of cores / 2 threads for voicing, and the same amount for encoding :)
18:56:12domonokythere are constellations where you can do encoding in parallel, but need todo the voicing sequenciell, your solution wont work for that..
18:58:17bluebrotherdomonoky: no, doing voicing and encoding in parallel would even have pros when voicing has to be done sequentially. Right now if voicing can't run in multiple threads all cores but the first one are idle, and that could already start encoding the already voiced strings
18:59:00domonokyah.. might be true, but thats also much more complicated..
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19:00:17domonokyyou need to comunicate between threads which files are already voiced.. currently we just have a list of work todo, which can be done paralell or not.
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19:01:39bluebrotheryep, it would need a bit more thread communication
19:02:11bluebrotherbut it might be a nice task to gain some QThread knowledge for me :)
19:02:17bluebrothernow I only need to find the time
19:02:31domonokyand a different concept for paralellisation.. currently we just use the Qt Concurency framework, which works nicely with lists of work todo..
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19:03:09bluebrotherdomonoky: is there a way to figure the vendor of the currently selected TTS engine? I'm trying to get voice string corrections into Rockbox Utility (first but rough implementation seems to work, but it's too much hard coded right now)
19:04:03domonokynot sure if that is possible with the sapi script. with open sapi it would work, but that still sits in the tracker..
19:04:40bluebrotherwe don't have a vendor element for non-SAPI voices, correct?
19:05:11domonokynon-spai voices dont have that.. most dont even have a voice selection.
19:07:14pixelmakugel: (in case you read logs) found out where the playback freezes while changing volume on my phone came from - it was me unexpectedly changing the cards and the new card didn't have a rockbox folder yet
19:07:47pixelmachanging volume probably wanted to save to config.cfg and couldn't
19:08:56CIA-7New commit by 03bluebrother (r29121): Add german translation for LANG_FM_RSSI. ...
19:10:16pixelmaso you can call it user error together with not handling the case gracefully
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19:24:20preglowanyone successfully compiled an android build on a mac?
19:29:50bluebrotherpreglow: I'm planning to try that but haven't done yet
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19:32:08preglowi think i managed to create a working cross compiler for m68k once, but that's it
19:32:42bluebrotherI'm running a build client on OS X 10.6 :)
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19:33:33bluebrotherbut I didn't manage to build the old m68k toolchain. The updated one builds after a few adjustments to rockboxdev.sh
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19:42:02kugelpreglow: with the sdk/ndk it should just work
19:42:26kugelit doesn't involve building a cross compiler
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19:45:44preglowkugel: no need to install eclipse, i take it?
19:45:59kugelcorrect
19:46:21preglowexcellence, i'll give it a go then
19:46:31preglowneed a new install for some light travel :>
19:47:43bluebrotherpreglow: it's building on my box right now. I had to explicitly set the path to the NDK compiler though (though setting ANDROID_NDK_PATH should be sufficient. Seems not)
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19:52:01Mouser_XI haven't updated Rockbox since March of last year (well, Feb. 09 on my Sansa...). Having said that, I wanted to say "THANK YOU!" for the theme editor.
19:52:28Mouser_XIt made "converting" my old theme (which is why I haven't updated) to the new "format" much easier
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19:53:11kugelbluebrother: configure adds the compiler dir to PATH before searching for it
19:53:32kugelstrange if it doesn't find it
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19:56:12bluebrotherkugel: that's not strange at all. On OS X the folder is called darwin-x86, not linux-x86 as configure assumes
19:56:28kugeloh :-)
19:56:38bluebrothershould be a simple fix though :)
19:56:48kugelthat needs fixing then
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19:57:37bluebrotherwouldn't be surprised if that folder is named differently on Windows. Though I guess building Rockbox on Windows natively would need various other adjustments as well, so not an issue right now
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20:32:37bluebrotherkugel: why has androidcc() that prefixtool $gcctarget in the same line as PATH=...? This breaks setting the path on Mac
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20:33:29kugelso that PATH is only modified for that command
20:34:05kugelwhy is this broken on MAC?
20:34:13bluebrotherhmm. Is that a problem? As long as PATH isn't exported it's lost at then end of the configure run anyway
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20:34:33bluebrotherno idea yet, probably because prefixtools is a script function
20:35:33bluebrotherif I run configure with bash it works. Hmm.
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20:44:55bluebrotherstrange. My login shell seems to be bash. Still, if I start bash manually it works. If not it doesn't work
20:46:07bluebrotherhmm, now it doesn't work when running under bash too. Weird.
20:46:19*bluebrother wonders if he's confusing himself right now
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21:21:39CIA-7New commit by 03jethead71 (r29122): i.MX31: Now that it matters because there's a debug screeen that allows changing things while running, some DVFS/DPTC stuff has to be done more ...
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21:33:24tom__any android savy people here?
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21:33:43bluebrothertom__: you might be better off just asking your question
21:33:55tom__yeah your right
21:33:59bluebrotherassuming its Rockbox related of course ;-)
21:34:00tom__soz
21:34:10tom__yes it is
21:34:45tom__right rockbox.apk on android x86 port failing to install, any ideas where to begin with that one
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21:35:03bluebrotherandroid x86?
21:35:26tom__theres a new one for you right :D
21:35:41bluebrotherah, as in android-x86.org?
21:36:05tom__yes sorry
21:36:12Tornerockbox doesn't support x86, would be the issue there
21:36:14bluebrotherwell, Rockbox uses native code on Android. So if you want to run it on x86 you need to build it for x86.
21:36:33tom__ah i was not sure it that would be the issue
21:36:33Torneyou'd need to port it to x86 first :)
21:36:36bluebrotherRockbox "supports" x86 to the extent that the simulator runs on a normal PC.
21:37:00Tornebluebrother: i suspect that currently the android config is coupled to the arm config
21:37:20bluebrotherbut the builds are (obviously) built for the target. So to run the Android port on x86 I guess you'd need to adjust it a bit and recompile
21:38:03bluebrotherTorne: it is −− configure uses arm-linux-androideabi-4.4.3 (since I was just looking into that to figure why the PATH thing doesn't work on OS X)
21:38:33bluebrotherit might be sufficient to just replace that compiler and rebuild. But I'm not really familiar with Android, so no idea.
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21:38:45Tornewell we're probably using some ARM asm as well
21:39:00Torneit might have been ifdef'ed sufficiently well that youc an just undefine the things that make it use arm code
21:39:11Tornebut it may not distinguish android/arm sufficiently
21:39:34bluebrothertrue. But this android on x86 looks somewhat interesting
21:39:52Tornemeh
21:39:59*Torne is waiting for x86 to die off ;)
21:40:13bluebrotherwhy that?
21:40:24*bluebrother doesn't see that happen −− Windows doesn't run on ARM
21:40:46Xerionfuture windows versions will
21:41:11bluebrotherthat's something I'll believe after I've seen it.
21:41:24Torneheh
21:41:45Xerionmicrosoft confirmed it themselves :p
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22:04:53bluebrotherany idea why PATH=foo:$PATH shellfunction arguments does not work in a shell script on Mac (bash 3.2.48) but works fine on my linux box (bash 4.1.7)? Oh, and invoking a script with PATH=foo:$PATH ./script.sh works on Mac
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22:08:12foolshis there a missing / at the end of your $PATH variable? Is this set in bash.rc on mac as well?
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22:10:33*foolsh never used a mac before except to put linux on it.
22:10:44bluebrotherfoolsh: no, the PATH variable is ok. If I split that up (assignment on one line, function call the next one) it works
22:13:23foolshtry using quotes around "$PATH". if that works I would think there might be s p a c e s in the the path directory names.
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22:25:05bluebrotherfoolsh: there are definitely no spaces involved. If they were it wouldn't work assigning PATH on a separate line in the script
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22:33:53bluebrotherhmm. How is this PATH=... prefixtools supposed to work? That only puts prefixes on CC and friends but the adjusted PATH is needed for the findtool calls done much later
22:35:05*bluebrother decides to install the android toolchain on linux and try again
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22:38:08S_a_i_n_tbluebrother: I tried no end to get those scripts working....gave up.
22:38:28S_a_i_n_tthey point to the wrong things now, also.
22:39:17bluebrotherah!
22:39:37S_a_i_n_tthe r8 NDK is out
22:39:58S_a_i_n_tI just did it manually...if those scripts aren't kept up to date, they probably shouldn't be in the source.
22:40:24S_a_i_n_tI thought kugel wrote them, but...nope.
22:40:30bluebrotherif I put a "echo $PATH" in front of the lines resolving the paths to the compilers (configure:3147) then the path DOES contain the path to the android compiler on Linux.
22:42:01bluebrotherhowever, this does NOT happen on OSX.
22:42:31bluebrotherin any case, unless I though before PATH needs to get set for the rest of the runtime of configure, not only for the prefixtools function call
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22:43:13bluebrotherso it seems that bash on linux keeps the value while on OSX it only keeps it for the call of prefixtools −− if I output $PATH in prefixtools I get the extended path
22:44:10bluebrotherso splitting that single line up into two is actually correct.
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23:16:47amiconnThis android (s|n)dk stuff is weird
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23:35:11in-the-storeyoyo, hello hello
23:35:22in-the-storeanybody rockin?
23:35:43in-the-storei am, indeed, in the store
23:36:05in-the-storelooking at various affordable devices
23:36:59in-the-storedoes rockbox run on the archos 2 vision???
23:37:30in-the-storetthis thing has a watchdog timer so if i walk away it will rolly disconnect me
23:38:01gevaertsrockbox works on the devices listed on http://www.rockbox.org/
23:38:14in-the-store... any hel you can give would be greatly areciated
23:38:31in-the-storegevaerts: thank you, yah i know im in the store on a store kiosk
23:38:48in-the-storeand i didnt see that secific model
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23:39:18gevaertsThat means rockbox doesn't run on it
23:39:24in-the-storethanks
23:39:29in-the-storemuch obliged
23:39:35in-the-storehave a great sunday =)
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23:45:17CIA-10New commit by 03pixelma (r29126): Also update the two missing autoresume strings in the German translation.
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