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#rockbox log for 2011-02-01

00:00:07bluebrotherthe only "problem" is that Finder won't show the hidden iTunes_Control folder
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00:01:58TarvisCan you just type the path to get there?
00:02:05TarvisI'm not a mac user so I wouldn't know
00:02:15TarvisBut in windows you can access hidden folders that way
00:02:22bluebrotherno, Finder doesn't have a location bar
00:02:45TarvisIs there anything you can do in terminal to do it?
00:02:51bluebrothersure.
00:03:18bluebrothersomething like rm -rf /Volumes/MYIPOD/iTunes_Control :)
00:03:27bluebrotherbut be careful with such commands
00:03:40bluebrotheryou might delete more than you want to :)
00:04:35bluebrotherand of course you need to quit Itunes (not just close). That's important because by default Itunes keeps running. It might be a good idea to configure Itunes to keep hands off of the Ipod before too
00:05:02bluebrotheranyway, gtg.
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00:06:55Tarvisor you can do it the hard way
00:06:59TarvisIf rockbox is on it already
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00:07:06TarvisYou can delete the folders from there
00:07:23TarvisMake sure to set Files to All show it shows hidden folders
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00:14:06Tarvisugh
00:14:17TarvisI'm really hating ipods at the moment
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00:14:31TarvisFirst I realize my new logic board's hold/heaphone jack port is broken
00:14:41TarvisNow I ripped the cord off my 900mah battery
00:15:40TarvisGood thing batteries are cheap...
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01:43:43TarvisI feel inclined to ask again if Rockbox can play audio (other than radio) through the Radio Remote for an iPod Video
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02:49:19saratogaTarvis: theres an accessory wiki page, check if your device is listed there
02:50:14TarvisYes
02:50:19TarvisThe iPod Radio Remote
02:50:28TarvisIt says Audio Out supported
02:50:29TarvisHmm
02:50:49TarvisCould this mean the actual audio chip on my ipod is damaged rather than just the headphone jack connector?
02:51:57saratogahow does this thing connect to your player?
02:52:48saratogaand if you want to check for damage, just try it in the apple firmware
02:52:51Tarvisthe dock port on the bottom
02:53:00TarvisYeah, no sound (other than radio) there either
02:53:01TarvisGuess so
02:53:02TarvisUgh
02:53:31saratogayeah then i think its pretty broken ...
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03:11:04TarvisI guess I'll try the fridge trick to see if maybe it's some fidgety solder connection
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03:57:13foolshwandered* all though he is doing lots of wondering too
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04:04:20foolshIs make not cleaning the java files/directories correctly/throughly?
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05:43:48foolshoh silly me the apk file is messing me up shouldn't this be cleaned as well?
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10:17:29*petur says something to LinusN regarding an h120 :/
10:17:58LinusNpetur: oh, sorry, i forgot to reply
10:19:01peturLinusN: for some reason I can only read your PM, not answer it :(
10:19:16petur"Can't use this command in this window"
10:19:52peturso I'll write it here: thanks ;)
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11:42:29Zagor"Congratulations, your website is IPv6 ready !"
11:42:39Zagorwe're now ipv6 connected
11:43:35B4gderah rockbox.org as well now?
11:44:15Zagoryes, although I haven't added AAAA records on all hostnames yet. only www, build and ns1
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13:03:29akbarhashhttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11679
13:03:43akbarhashI tested it out working fine for me
13:04:08akbarhashmaybe some of the mods can test it out it is pretty simple
13:04:17akbarhashand then commit it
13:05:07TorneThis is not how our menu UI is really intended to work
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13:05:19TorneProposing UI changes is not a matter of testing the patch and committing it :)
13:05:27Torneyou need to actually convince people it would be better that way.
13:05:37Tornei'd find it very bizarre to have settings work that way
13:06:47akbarhashit is a bit of a headache when for xample we are trying out different themes and have to come back to the theme setting all the way
13:07:04akbarhashafter checking the main screen and wps
13:07:17akbarhashmaybe it can be includeed as a option
13:08:38Tornetrying out different themes is something a typical user only does once in the lifetime of their device
13:08:45Torneat least, i believe so :) i may be wrong
13:10:29linuxstbCan't you also preview themes on the website and in Rockbox Utility?
13:10:48akbarhashmaybe not once in a lifetime but a few times when the person is bored with the current theme and desires a change, anyways it is also just way more natural since it is also the way the fies and database works
13:11:51akbarhashyes themes can be previewed on the site but getting the feel of it on the device is different
13:12:33akbarhashanyways just wanted to put the patch in the eyes of the mods
13:12:43TorneWhat's your criteria for deciding at what level it should remember, though?
13:12:51Tornethe files/database browsers are pretty obvious distinct things
13:12:57Torneeverything else in the menu system is just a menu..
13:13:08Tornewhy should settings specifically recall where in the subtree it goes, and, say, plugins not?
13:14:08S_a_i_n_tI'd like it if all our menus had this function, personally.
13:14:20akbarhashi have no reason for that but maybe if you try it once you would feel differently
13:15:01akbarhashnot in anyway demanding or anything but just a suggestion
13:15:39akbarhashi tried it on the fuze and it just feels right
13:16:14S_a_i_n_tOh, yes...fwiw I have been using this patch in my tree since it was posted on the tracker.
13:16:29S_a_i_n_tIMHO it is a marked improvement.
13:16:50S_a_i_n_t(I wasn't sure it was the same one until I checked the FS#)
13:18:48akbarhashmaybe there would be some people who would like the old system and some who would like the new one
13:18:51TorneS_a_i_n_t: "all our menus": what do you mean by that
13:19:20Tornesettings has dozens of submenus, should they all remember where you were too?
13:19:33akbarhasham not a developer on rockbox so would not know the procedure
13:19:45akbarhashbut is there some kind of votin or something
13:19:46Tornethe procedure for what?
13:19:48TorneNo.
13:20:03akbarhashok
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13:20:30Torne(yes, i am reductio ad absurdum'ing this..)
13:21:28Torneanyway. my opinion is that I believe it would confuse a lot of users if the menus suddenly didn't lead to the same place every time
13:21:49TorneFiles and Database are not menus, they are special browsers
13:21:57akbarhashyes that is true
13:22:06akbarhashbut maybe as an option
13:22:23TorneFor it to be worth having an option then a significant minority of people would have to have a use for it
13:22:33Torneotherwise it's just bloat for little good reason.
13:22:43S_a_i_n_tconfigurable menus cause another debate around here ;)
13:22:54TorneIt saves a couple of button presses for people who are changing theme a lot
13:23:14Tornebut, a large proportion of users never change theme at all, or only do it once..
13:23:53akbarhashtrue if not enough people are for it then its no use, i will try to 'advertise' this feature in the forums and see what the response is
13:23:54akbarhashthanks
13:24:01S_a_i_n_tit's more than just that....if you regularly use a specific setting, it's nice to always go there (or close to it) when you enter a potentially deep menu
13:24:21TorneS_a_i_n_t: but going backt ot he last place doesn't accomplish that end :)
13:24:25S_a_i_n_tI use the patch personally, I like it...I could see how some wouldn't though.
13:24:45TorneIf you wanted to be able to do that then a better way would be to fix the quickscreen to be able to point to non-enumerable settings
13:24:56Torneor make customisable menus work.
13:25:38S_a_i_n_tI think fixing the quickscreen would be awesome...so it was a customizable list...as opposed to being limited to four options.
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13:26:14S_a_i_n_tjust include a "quickscreen.blah" plain text file with the menu layout.
13:26:17TorneThat's not a universally agreed definition of "fixing"
13:26:38Tornesince I like very much the current four-option system which lets me change things in fewer button presses than a menu ;)
13:26:51Torne..since I only have maybe two things on the QS i care about
13:26:57Torneboth of which are on/off toggles
13:27:08akbarhashi like the quickscreen
13:27:15Tornealso, doing it from a textfile would be maybe tricky
13:27:21Tornesince how do you refer to a given menu option/setting?
13:27:23akbarhashbut only use the shuffle and the repeat options
13:27:33Tornethere is something of a lack of stable identifiers for these things
13:27:41Torneat least, ones that can be searched for.
13:27:44akbarhashi dont ever use that files thingy show all etc
13:27:47S_a_i_n_twell, yeah...my idea is just draw the normal quickscreen if the "quickscreen.blah" file isn't present, and if it is draw a list with the menu/sub menu entries taken from this file.
13:27:55S_a_i_n_tTorne: ^
13:28:26S_a_i_n_tbasically like a tagnavi_custom for the quickscreen
13:28:32Tornethat seems kinda unsatisfactory, tbh. if you want the QS to be just a menu I would suggest you get customisable menus :)
13:28:50Torneas that seems like it would make that much easier.
13:29:19Tornetagnavi works because the database uses simple strings to identify fields..
13:29:25Tornehow do you identify bits of the menu structure?
13:29:39Torne(come to think of it, how does the quickscreen *currently* identify settings)
13:29:42*Torne looks.
13:30:03akbarhashdont know
13:30:08pixelma"just" make it possible to got through config files in the quickscreen > up to the user how to set that up ;)
13:30:18Torneah, it has find_setting_by_name
13:30:23Torneso that works for settings.
13:30:46Tornebut not anything that isn't strictly a setting.
13:31:26TorneSo yeah, you could do a menu based on a textfile that was just a list of setting names
13:31:41Tornebut without extra work it would be restricted to things that currently work on the quickscreen now, i suspect
13:31:45Torneso no theme selection/etc
13:32:17S_a_i_n_tIt's the most versatile idea I've come up with to handle it so far.
13:32:33S_a_i_n_tperhaps something more fitting will spring to mind.
13:33:06Torneanyway, that's not entirely relevant to the patch being discussed
13:34:36akbarhashsorry for hijacking but there is also one more idea i would like to put on the drawing board, someone who has used a nokia would know the mark, mark all, unmark all, mark many option, if that could be implemented it would be great
13:34:59akbarhashto be used in the database and the files menu
13:37:22akbarhashabout the patch currently being discussed, as i said i will try to see the response of the patch in the forums if there is a positive response i will bring it up here again
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13:49:17n1smultiselect is a feature that has been sugested many times and one i would like personally but noone's looked into implementing it AFAIK
13:49:55n1si would also like if the menu systme got consistent with regard to going "back" :)
13:50:28n1sand some consistency with the enadle/disable yes/no on/off settings :)
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13:55:21akbarhashi tried but am not a very good programmer and those database files are just so long and complicated i could not make head or tail out of it if someone could direct me to the location where these parts are handled i could give it a try
13:56:43Tornemultiselect doesn't really make sense for the database.. you can't select things there currently can you?
13:56:43akbarhash+3 for the menu going back anyone else
13:57:08S_a_i_n_tTorne: It has a context menu, so, yes.
13:57:09Torneas was mentioned already, this is not about voting
13:57:16akbarhashsorry
13:57:47akbarhashi guess we can select stuff in the database
13:57:59akbarhashlike we select the song and then add to playlist
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13:58:28akbarhashthis has to be done many time to add like 4 out of the 5 songs in the folder
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13:58:57akbarhashbut wiht mark we could mark the four files then add them to playlist
13:59:05akbarhash*wiht
13:59:10akbarhash**with
13:59:24TorneS_a_i_n_t: ah, i was thinking of file operations
13:59:29Tornenot everything else :)
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14:00:27Torneakbarhash: okay, so if you're looking in the file/database code that's the wrong place; you would need to add this to our generic list hadnling code
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14:00:43pixelmawould be nice (and is about the only place I missed a multi-select) in the playlist viewer
14:01:25akbarhashok will check out this list handling code tonight
14:01:26Tornelook in gui/list.c and friends
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14:01:42Tornefiletree and tagtree and other things all use that to display lists of items
14:01:59akbarhashsure if i can do something i will
14:02:23akbarhashthe database files are just incomprehensible to me
14:02:38Torneyou would also need to change all the code for handling the actual context menu options, so that they understood how to operate on multiple files, though
14:02:43Torneas well as adding the actual selection code itself :)
14:03:42akbarhashpretty sure cant do all that but will give it a look
14:05:03linuxstbAnd find a way to indicate which items have been marked...
14:06:17akbarhashin the nokias its done with a tick on right side of the menu
14:06:51akbarhashbut we could also use the highlighting we use to identify the current line we are at
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20:41:36pamaurydid we setup a page for GSOC 2011 ?
20:42:11gevaertsNot yet
20:45:21pamauryare there any project ideas ?
20:45:25LearBuschel: I think the new M4A seek goes one chunk too far. new_pos should always be <= file_loc (so that if anything, there's a little overlap).
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20:45:56gevaertspamaury: I suspect some of last year's ideas are still useful
20:46:22gevaertsI think we should start with a blank page though, and let people copy ideas they can stand behind
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20:48:03pamaurywe can dream of someone getting involve in the buflib/buffering nightmare
20:48:10LearThe "++" in "chunk++" in the chunk_offset loop. You want the first chunk containing file_loc, not the chunk after.
20:48:11pamaury:)
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20:49:02pamaurythere is also the multiple plugin one but without clever allocation, it would difficult
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20:50:50LearBuschel: Other than that, it works fine on my test tracks.
20:51:13kugelpamaury: you could start with multiple plugins on RaaA to fix up the UI/etc and work on allocation problems later
20:51:46BuschelLear: you are right. it seeks a bit too far.
20:51:53pamaurythat is true
20:52:09BuschelLear: moving "++chunk;" beyond the if-break works
20:52:20BuschelLear: and good to hear it works :)
20:52:28LearBuschel: Yes, I tested that here.
20:53:00BuschelLear: btw, did you see FS #11916? Would be glad to hear your opinion
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20:55:57CIA-7New commit by 03Buschel (r29180): We seeked one chunk too far when resuming m4a files.
20:58:59LearThat size check looks fine. As for the SBR fixes, I'm not sure how well it works to change length and bitrate on the fly like that...
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21:00:07*kugel would be interested in the multiple-plugin and buflib-to-core projects, but also plans to have a peek at other projects
21:00:07LearEspecially halving the bitrate looks odd...
21:00:15kugelfor GSoC 2011
21:01:10Lear(By the way, I did a "chunk > 0 ? chunk - 1 : 0" too, just to be safe.)
21:01:35*Buschel just stumbled about the same bit :)
21:02:52Buschelshould of course not happen as the resume should call a position that was played before. which needs to be beyond the first chunk start adress...
21:04:04Buschelregarding SBR stuff. the frequency is/was set on the fly as well...
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21:08:11LearYes, but playback does some offset tweaks (especially with rewind before resume).
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21:24:07Bushmillsseems something has changed with one or more codecs - files which i could play before, cause reboot of rockbox now, with message "illegal instruction", running updated rockbox from yesterday
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21:34:08BuschelLear: detection can be done in read_mp4_esds(). but in this method it is not ensured id3->length is already known
21:34:18LearBuschel: Not reliably, as far as I know. But it can perhaps be improved.
21:34:54Buschelthe detection seems to be the same as the detection that I am taking this info from
21:35:11Buschel(which is libfaad/mp4.c)
21:35:28user890104hello, is there usb hid support for nano 2g?
21:37:41pamauryI think hid doesn't work on nano2g, for unknown reasons, but I might be wrong
21:37:51LearAnd instead of a global, you could borrow an mp3entry field (has_toc or whatever). :)
21:38:00UnconventionalTIs it possible to take a screenshot of Rockbox on a music device?
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21:39:00pamauryuser890104: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IPodNano2GPort says HID doesn't work
21:39:09evilnick_BUnconventionalT: Yes, there's a screenshot function on every port
21:39:52gevaertsIt might be broken on AMSv2 though
21:40:03gevaerts(due to USB detection being ignored on those)
21:40:09user890104pamaury: thanks
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21:42:26LearBuschel: If SBR is implicitly signalled, then "The decoder needs to parse the payload at least partially in order to detect SBR. Only then can the output sampling rate be determined."
21:42:55LearBuschel: See http://www.scribd.com/doc/16136958/HEAAC for (lots) more information.
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22:10:38BuschelLear: the better solution for rockbox is to parse this info in the metadat parser and not do post-corrections of length/bitrate
22:11:08BuschelLear: we will still need the sbr_fac stuff in the codec to have correct resume and seek
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22:14:03Buschelupdated FS #11916
22:19:21Buschelsoap: do you want to keep FS #11820 open?
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22:36:27thomasjfoxkugel: ping
22:36:48kugelthomasjfox: pong
22:36:59thomasjfoxhey
22:37:22thomasjfoxmy devel box is behaving better now (vesafb driver :o)
22:37:32thomasjfoxhave you seen the updated maemo patch?
22:38:05kugelthe one from saturday? yes
22:38:55thomasjfoxDid you take a look at it?
22:41:05kugelyes
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22:42:06thomasjfoxSo what do you think? :)
22:42:12kugelmaemo-thread.c stash for numerous stuff it seems
22:43:44thomasjfoxkugel: Still only ~220 lines. Contains the stubs for the power management etc.
22:43:47kugelis this with sdl threads?
22:44:15thomasjfoxYes
22:44:53thomasjfoxI don't want to "officially" merge the ucontext stuff into my tree until we have at least merge the basic maemo support upstream
22:44:54kugeldidn't you say sigaltstack threads work better?
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22:45:10thomasjfoxsigaltstack works perfect
22:45:12kugelah, oops my bad, it's not in svn :)
22:45:22thomasjfoxhehe
22:45:30kugelwe can fix that :)
22:45:47thomasjfoxI'm all for it
22:46:03kugelthe #define HAVE_PICTUREFLOW_INTEGRATION bit is wrong I think, but it looks ok overall
22:46:33kugeldoes the keyboard workaround affect english keyboards?
22:46:34thomasjfoxlet me have a look at that
22:46:57thomasjfoxYes, but why would anyone press ALT + something inside rockbox anyway?
22:47:41thomasjfoxSo if you do a maemo build and press ALT + LEFT, it will go UP
22:47:58kugelis there something else mapped to alt+left on those?
22:48:44thomasjfoxno, they have full cursor keys (and therefore no umlaut keys)
22:48:55thomasjfoxBut I'll check a picture of it to be 100% sure
22:48:56kugelalright then
22:48:59kugelI think there are some functions left which could/should be made static
22:49:37thomasjfoxkugel: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2643/4119588374_3927c8576c.jpg
22:50:07kugelI would have liked to see a go at unified pulseaudio backend but that can be done later too
22:50:28thomasjfoxLet's keep the basic support small. The smaller the steps, the better
22:50:58kugelwhy did you add bluetooth support in the last minute then? :P
22:51:00thomasjfoxOnce this piece of code is in, I'm going to submit the "debian" directory
22:51:16thomasjfoxkugel: The BT support is really small :)
22:51:39thomasjfoxIt was just a matter of adding another callback and be done with it
22:51:41*kugel wonders if gevaerts / amiconn want to have a look as well
22:51:52kugelor petur
22:52:15gevaertsI'm a bit tired right now
22:53:13thomasjfoxkugel: Regarding the picture flow stuff, I disable it for the application build as it's currently broken and showed up in the menu
22:53:35kugelthomasjfox: one thing you need to do sooner or later is fixing lcd_get_dpi() to return the appropriate numbers I think
22:53:59kugelthomasjfox: you disabled it for simulators as well
22:54:04thomasjfoxkugel: Good you mention it, never heard of it before :)
22:55:05thomasjfoxDoes the simulator also define PLATFORM_HOSTED? Then it would be wrong
22:55:20kugelyes it does
22:55:32thomasjfoxgnampf
22:55:38kugelthere's APPLICATION for all app ports
22:56:16thomasjfoxok
22:56:20thomasjfoxis the maemocc() part ok?
22:57:30kugelsure, I can't comment on all the magic in there anyway
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22:57:48foolshthomasjfox: my picture flow works?
22:58:50thomasjfoxfoolsh: It's currently disabled. IIRC the button mappings are still missing. But I really want to enable it.
22:59:05foolshare you building svn?
22:59:24thomasjfoxOr it could be I had to disable it because the database was bogus because of another bug
22:59:27thomasjfoxSure
22:59:38foolshdatabase is back I think
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23:00:01kugelyou sure want to enable it, it looks awesoe :)
23:00:15thomasjfoxI'll try again the next days!
23:00:18kugelbut controlling it is awkward (/me has it running on android)
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23:01:03thomasjfoxthe last time I tried it was rebuilding the picture index on every start. That's not normal, right?
23:01:24thomasjfoxmaybe that was due to the database doubling every rockbox start...
23:01:39foolshI don't really know
23:02:25thomasjfoxkugel: So let's see what amiconn and gevaerts think of it during the next days
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23:03:02gevaertsI don't really have any opinion on the code
23:03:34CIA-7New commit by 03alle (r29182): Manual: correct the 'Playlists' menu description
23:10:12thomasjfoxkugel: I have to leave. What do you think, should we apply it (without the PICTUREFLOW change) or cook it some more?
23:11:04CIA-7r29182 build result: All green
23:11:27*bluebroth3r grumbles
23:11:39*foolsh feels FS #11903 is ready for test runs on track pads/balls
23:12:20bluebroth3r"rbutil: c200v2" is really a bad commit message
23:12:57bluebroth3rdid that intend to add support for it? Or extend it? Or add (part) of the configuration?
23:13:06bluebroth3rhmpf
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23:22:08kugelthomasjfox: you decide :)
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23:23:53thomasjfoxhmm. Ok, let's see if amiconn has some comments on it the next days as I won't be "on site" tomorrow. Otherwise I would say apply it at the end of the week
23:24:12CIA-7New commit by 03alle (r29183): Manual: Correct the description of the Time/Date menu and make it look nicer.
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23:24:46user890104is it technically possible to check if an usb cable or an usb charger is plugged into nano 2g while running rockbox (like on the older models), because when plugging in a charger, rockbox goes to usb/disk mode
23:25:06user890104i know about the "holding menu button" trick
23:25:14CIA-7r29183 build result: All green
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23:26:46gevaertsuser890104: Either that charger actually is a USB host, or that sounds like a bug
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23:27:51CIA-7New commit by 03bluebrother (r29184): Fix sansac200v2 not showing up in device selection. ...
23:27:51CIA-7r29184 build result: All green
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23:28:16user890104gevaerts: with ipod color (4g) (usb id 1204) + rockbox, the charger gets detected correctly
23:28:28gevaertsThen it's a bug
23:28:46user890104ok, i'll fill a bug report
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