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#rockbox log for 2011-02-16

00:00:26kugeldoesn't mount tell you?
00:01:02thomasjfoxI don't have it yet :)
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00:01:16Torneit's /home/user/MyDocs
00:01:23thomasjfoxThat's the internal one
00:01:31kugelthomasjfox: mount is not installed by default?
00:01:35Torneoh. that's, er
00:01:40thomasjfoxlinuxstb: Did you get your SD card for the n900 yet?
00:01:46kugelcan linux even work without mount utility?
00:01:55thomasjfoxkugel: I meant the an additional, extra SD card
00:02:01thomasjfoxmount -is- installed :o)
00:02:08kugelah, now I understand
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00:02:25kugelno hint in fstab?
00:02:41kugelperhaps gevaerts or amiconn know?
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00:03:36Torneit's /media/mmc1 i think
00:04:07Tornepossibly mmc2 etc if it has more than one partition
00:04:26Torneyou can probably assume that anything under /media is a mountpoint for some kind of storage
00:04:33Torneeither the uSD slot or a USB device attached via host mode
00:04:44Tornesince it works the same as hal/etc in that respect
00:06:01JdGordon|the android service and activity should be able to be restarted seperately...
00:06:21JdGordon|right now there is no sure way for some settings to take effect because the service cant be restarted
00:06:28thomasjfoxTorne: Thanks, that's the correct location
00:07:09kugelJdGordon1: they can be started separately...in theory
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00:07:25JdGordon|in theory sure, in practice it aint so easy
00:07:47kugelin practice you don't start a service without an activity
00:07:50JdGordon|it can be added using the shutdown menu item (charcell only iirc)
00:08:56JdGordon|Buschel: you wont save any binsize by removing one tag which just returns the id3->foo value from the wps code... (it is all so generic that you *might* save <100 bytes)
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00:30:11*thomasjfox grumbles because rockbox doesn't look up a filename selected via "files" in the database and therefore won't add it to the recently played tracks list
00:31:18pixelmait's not the "gather runtime data not enabled" mistake?
00:31:40pixelmaand which "files" in the database?
00:32:29thomasjfoxpixelma: It is enabled and working if I select a track via the database
00:32:41linuxstbthomasjfox: Yes, I have some microSD cards now.
00:33:03thomasjfoxpixelma: Browsing by folder doesn't check the database if the filename is known (just a guess though)
00:35:20stripwaxthomasjfox - do you mean "browsing by files INSTEAD of browsing in database" ?
00:35:20sideralthomasjfox: It actually should
00:35:35thomasjfoxstripwax: Yes
00:36:04thomasjfoxsideral: Do you know where that lookup function is? Then I could add debug printfs in there
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00:37:17sideralthomasjfox: AFAICS, the lookup for the runtimedb happens in tagtree_buffer_event, and I believe the lookup function is tagcache_find_index
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00:41:17thomasjfoxsideral: Thanks. I throw some printfs in there
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00:44:07thomasjfoxsideral, kugel: Found it: I access my files via a symlink and so the path in tagcache doesn't match
00:44:42sideralaha, nice find
00:45:31kugelyea, it adds the real path to the db
00:45:50siderallooks like tagcache_find_index (or some higher-level function) should resolve symlinks before doing the lookup
00:46:53thomasjfoxyeah, we just need a realpath() in there for #ifdef APPLICATION
00:47:56thomasjfoxtagcache_find_index() looks like a nice place for it
00:52:08thomasjfoxfind_entry_ram() / find_entry_disk() looks better though as they get called from multiple places
00:53:29sideralthomasjfox: You could also consider doing the realpath early, when the id3->path gets filled in
00:54:08thomasjfoxsideral: There are other call paths using the "lower level" lookup functions
00:54:27sideralOK
00:54:40thomasjfoxsideral: I'll check your idea
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01:01:37kugelthomasjfox: notice the other realpath call, how broken it actually is
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01:19:09thomasjfoxkugel: You mean the syntax of realpath()?
01:19:25kugelthere's a comment about it
01:19:45thomasjfoxsideral: bufopen() seems to work good. I'll put that change in FS as it's too deep inside rockbox to commit it directly
01:21:46thomasjfoxkugel: Oh yeah, I was wondering why "abs_target" is a "static char[]" instead of a plain "char[]"?
01:24:41kugelgit log :)
01:25:42kugelit's static because PATH_MAX is pretty bug for our stacks
01:27:39thomasjfoxkugel: thanks
01:28:08kugelbig*
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02:01:52CIA-70New commit by 03thomasjfox (r29317): RaaA: Fix tagcache filename lookups for paths containing symbolic links
02:05:43CIA-70r29317 build result: All green
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12:17:09JdGordon1has therebeen any word on the RSB deliberations? or are we going to get an answer when we get one?
12:17:25gevaertsthe latter
12:17:43JdGordon1I mean, it feels like it will just go away without any word from anyone after some time
12:18:05gevaertsThe only thing we *can* say is "We're discussing things"
12:18:15gevaertsAnd I'm not sure if that's very useful
12:19:13JdGordon1its better than "we were discussing things and got nowhere, so are leaving it in the hope everyone forgets we were"
12:19:29*JdGordon1 really just wants to say "that was absolutly the wrong descision" already
12:20:30gevaertsWell, technically I'm not sure we actually have to tell anything to anyone but whoever contacted us in the first place :)
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12:21:22gevaertsBut while the RSB can definitely decide to not decide, I don't think it can decide to not reply
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12:23:11gevaertsI'd like to ask for some patience though. We've never done this before, we have to learn things as we go along
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13:00:19ZagorI am updating the rockbox.org server. Some services (including cgi-irc) may be interrupted.
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16:44:26bluebroth3rLambdaCalculus37: pong
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16:48:36LambdaCalculus37bluebroth3r: Can you roll me a Mac build of Rockbox Utility? I'm having a spot of bad luck rolling an SVN build, and I want to see if I can install Rockbox on the GoGear models with it.
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16:50:46LambdaCalculus37I also need to add in support for installation on the SA9200.
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16:55:38bluebroth3rLambdaCalculus37: sure.
16:55:54LambdaCalculus37Thanks!
16:56:30LambdaCalculus37I just need the GoGears enabled for installation.
16:56:52LambdaCalculus37If it works, I'll enable them in SVN.
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17:00:23LambdaCalculus37bluebroth3r: Yes, I've got some work for that in my local trunk.
17:00:49LambdaCalculus37I did add the HDD models in, though. That's what I need enabled.
17:02:36bluebroth3rthe existing GoGear models are only disabled, you can enable them via the configuration dialog
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17:18:39bluebroth3rLambdaCalculus37: (for the logs): updated, find it at the usual place.
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19:30:39thomasjfoxkugel: let me read it again :)
19:31:43kugelthe realpath comment, sorry
19:33:24thomasjfoxOk, now I get it. So MAX_PATH should be in fact PATH_MAX on android
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19:33:56thomasjfoxkugel: What about moving this very important information in a comment line next to the realpath() call?
19:34:25thomasjfoxI'm pretty sure I'll miss this subtle detail the next time again...
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19:35:17kugelI thought next to the static PATM_MAX buffer was a better fit
19:35:53kugelthomasjfox: MAX_PATH is rockbox-specific and too small for realpath
19:36:07thomasjfoxkugel: Ok, I'll fix it
19:37:00thomasjfoxBesides that I'm very happy the play count stuff now works for me
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19:39:12Sochirohey
19:39:38Sochirosay, does rockbox's equalizer settings affect microphone recording, or just audio output?
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19:41:43Sochiroi see, so the microphone recording settings consists of sample rate, gain, and volume only
19:43:01kugelthomasjfox: realpath resolves symlinks? I need to look if it also does on android
19:43:48n1sthe volume when recording is only for the monitoring part and gain affects the actual recording (or was it the other way around?)
19:43:48thomasjfoxkugel: Linux man page says:
19:43:48thomasjfoxrealpath() expands all symbolic links and resolves references to /./, /../ and extra '/' characters in the null-
19:43:48thomasjfox terminated string named by path to produce a canonicalized absolute pathname
19:43:49n1sbut yes, no DSP on recordings
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19:55:39thomasjfoxanyone familiar with the default font selection code if there is no config.cfg on first startup?
19:56:34kugelthomasjfox: the linux/glibc manpage doesn't necessarily match android behavior
19:56:52kugelI assume there was a reason I used an extra readlink, but I need to have another look
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19:57:08thomasjfoxwps/WPSLIST specifies 35-Adobe-Helvetica for cabbiev2. I do get 27-Adobe-Helvetica from the apps/settings_lists.c default value
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19:57:29thomasjfox35-Adobe-Helvetica for cabbiev2 on 800x480 LCDs
19:57:48kugelsettings_list.c actually dictates the default font
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20:00:03kugelin WPSLIST just says "put this font into the package if cabbie is shipped"
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20:00:03thomasjfoxkugel: Ok. 27-Adobe-Helvetica is too small for the n900 display.
20:00:03thomasjfoxGuess I need a patch in settings_list.c then?
20:00:03kugeli can imagine
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20:01:14thomasjfoxIt's something I noticed yesterday while starting with a config from scratch
20:01:14thomasjfoxNow I also understand why people complained the font size is too small :)
20:01:14thomasjfoxI thought wps/WPSLIST contains resolution specific settings...
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20:06:41CIA-70New commit by 03thomasjfox (r29321): Use 35-Adobe-Helvetica as default font on maemo. 27-Adobe-Helvetica is too small
20:12:56CIA-70r29321 build result: All green
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20:16:04thomasjfoxkugel: The only thing mentioning android + readlink() and realpath() in one breath is a rockbox patch on pastie.org ;)
20:16:24kugelthomasjfox: yea you need to look into the sources
20:18:09kugelhttp://android.git.kernel.org/?p=platform/bionic.git;a=summary
20:20:59thomasjfoxcrap, the last time I ran rockbox in valgrind it turned up something about uninitialized vars. Now I can't reproduce it.
20:24:16thomasjfoxah, it's back. Database init is the key
20:28:37*kugel sees readlink and lstat calls in realpath.c so I gues it resolves symlinks as well
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20:29:01thomasjfoxkugel: May be some older version didn't?
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20:36:55kugelthomasjfox: dunno
20:38:36thomasjfoxkugel: Ok. Can you make out something out of this valgrind output? http://pastie.org/1571877
20:39:03thomasjfoxI'm currently compiling valgrind 3.6.0 and do the test again, F14 ships only valgrind 3.5.0
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23:16:35sideraljhMikeS: Re ClipV2 background noise: I've posted a new AMSv2 audio/power-management settings dumper to FS #11915. Could you please use this new patch to dump the settings on your Fuze v2 again?
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23:17:28bertriksideral, I have a clip+, can I help somehow?
23:17:49sideralbertrik: Yes, you could! Please have a look at FS #11915
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23:21:36sideralMy current theory is that the Clip V2 has a misconfigured DCDC. The low-noise "current force" mode is not documented in the datasheet, so my idea is to see whether other AMSv2 platforms have a different configuration than the Clip V2
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23:24:18sideralClarification: The "current force" mode actually is mentioned in the datasheet. The datasheet just doesn't document how it is enabled.
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23:33:42CIA-70New commit by 03lenzone10 (r29322): Updated italian translation
23:34:23sideralbertrik: Can you tell me what amsv2_variant differentiates and how that difference is used?
23:35:27bertrikit differentiates between different ways of connecting the sd controller to the sd slot IIRC
23:37:02bertrikon variant 0 (the "old" way), some signal related to the sd card is shared with the button light in a complicated way
23:37:12CIA-70r29322 build result: All green
23:38:49sideralI was wondering how the SD cards in AMSv2 are powered. From a first look at my power management settings, it seems like it's not done through the AS3543 DCDC circuits
23:39:52bertrikI've installed a rockbox with the patch from 11915, what do I do next?
23:41:08siderallogf build, I hope? Go to the debug menu and use the "Log AS3543 registers" entry, then dump logf.txt
23:42:16bertrikI don't have that entry
23:42:39sideralshould be right above "dump log file"
23:43:29sideralbut only in build that has logf enabled, of course
23:44:23bertrikmeh
23:45:55sideralAlso make sure you've used the latest patch from that FS item :)
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23:55:50sideralbertrik: ...anyway, I saw that amsv2_variant was used in deciding how to put the SD in low-power state. As the background noise is pronounced when accessing the SD on the Clip v2, and only audible when accessing the external SD on the Clip+, the voltage regulator used for the SD card(s) may be in a noisy mode (which is typically the low-power mode)
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23:58:38sideralbertrik: Do you have documentation for the AMSv2 SD interface?

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