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#rockbox log for 2011-03-16

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03:33:49deltHello
03:34:27deltI got me a broken sandisk e260 "for parts" on ebay, which i fixed =)
03:35:01deltexcept it has a crack along the screen, and more wear&tear than my "normal" one, seems to work fine
03:37:11deltquestion: the other day, some USB connectors were badly connected to my motherboard - possibly sending +5Vcc to the +/- data pins or ground. Could this have damaged either the battery or the player itself?
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03:51:13saratogamore likely it'd just damage your PC's USB port
03:52:20deltnope. works fine, even tested the player plugged on another USB port (which uses the soldered-on motherboard connectors)
03:52:46deltanyway, still waiting for the batteries to recharge. More updates to come =)
03:53:00deltthanks for the help saratoga btw
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05:52:52scrompleIs there a way to get the Info section on Rockbox Utility to refresh. Just manually changed some files around and it now displays incorrect information.
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05:55:57scrompleRockbox Utility version 1.2.8
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06:25:36*[Saint] boggles at http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,27356.msg179024.html#msg179024
06:26:50[Saint]Torne: You have an iPod 5.5G no? I take it you've not seen such sillyness on your player?
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06:38:40CIA-2New commit by 03jethead71 (r29595): Purge buffer and codec APIs existing exclusively in support of mpa.codec and fix that to not require them: buf_get_offset and ci.advance_buffer_loc. ...
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06:59:49CIA-2New commit by 03jethead71 (r29596): Sync test_codec to r29595.
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08:38:27CIA-2New commit by 03wodz (r29597): MPIO HD300: add KBD context keymap
08:38:48wodzBagder: ping
08:39:09B4gderyes?
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08:41:25wodzmaybe this is silly question but is there some funding for devcon attenders?
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08:42:54CIA-2r29597 build result: All green
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08:44:39wodzB4gder:^
08:44:41B4gderwodz: yes
08:45:06wodzwhat can be sponsored?
08:45:08B4gderwe've previously paid 100 euros/person that attend
08:45:15wodzI see
08:45:32B4gderbut it is not a fixed rule, we can adapt to the situation
08:45:58wodzI'd love to attend but I can't cope with prospected costs on my own
08:46:06B4gderI'll gladly hand over my share to someone else
08:46:12B4gder(as I've always have)
08:47:25B4gderwe might not need to take this discussion this public, but I'm certainly willing to discuss how we can help you come
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08:48:57wodzB4gder: I'll have to talk with my wife but funding greatly increase chance I'll attend
08:49:40B4gdergreat!
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08:50:20B4gdermeeting face to face is a great way to get to know each other even better in a truly good way
08:50:47wodz:-)
08:51:10wodzAnd this gives the ability to include MPIOs in the tower :-)
08:51:31B4gdera very important part of it, yes!
08:51:54B4gderand if we do right, android phones might qualify by the time! B)
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08:52:37wodzHmm, where the hell recording trigger setting is located? I can't set it to anything else than OFF in MPIO
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08:55:40amiconnHmm, the properties plugin could be extended to work for folders as well (calculating total size)
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08:57:54jhMikeSamiconn: it seems to enumerate folders already
08:58:18jhMikeS*the contents of them
08:59:34amiconnoh
08:59:45*amiconn somehow overlooked the context menu item
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09:05:28jhMikeSit's in a different spot. maybe it should always be last.
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09:57:19JdGordon|did anyone want to have last minute input in the dynamic screen size patch? I dont see anyone having issues apart from the splash image (which isnt massivly critical) so im going to go aead and polish and commit...
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10:13:18jhMikeSwho's splashes does it mess up?
10:13:31JdGordon|noones
10:13:47JdGordon|it doesnt compile in the "correct" bmp
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10:26:45JdGordon|anyone got a target with colour lcd that has battery and can test a build?
10:28:03ZagorJdGordon|: if android is good enough, I can test
10:28:13ZagorI have no other targets with me
10:28:33JdGordon|I'm not sure it is, and I can test android (though i hate building the damn thing :) )
10:28:39Zagorok
10:28:42JdGordon|I have like 15 DAPs, none have any batt life
10:29:30*JdGordon| is looking at credits.rock
10:29:34JdGordon|why does it not use the multi screen api?
10:29:59Zagorhas anyone touched it the last five years?
10:30:21JdGordon|yeah, i remember someone made it controllable instead of auto scrolling :)
10:34:29sideralZagor: I found out which switch to toggle in the forum software to make the RSS feed include full forum posts rather than just excepts. Feel adventurous enough to change it?
10:35:36Zagorsideral: I don't administer the forum. scorche does.
10:36:02sideralOK, sorry. Thought I saw your name in the list of forum admins
10:36:25Zagorright, I am a forum admin but I don't run the forum site.
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11:13:45jhMikeSJdGordon|: Does mpegplayer built for those hires screens? I'd think it should need some larger status icons if so.
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11:19:10JdGordon|no idea
11:19:12JdGordon|I dont tinhk so
11:19:24JdGordon|it hardly makes sense on RaaA anyway
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11:25:50CIA-2r29598 build result: All green
11:26:00Torne[Saint]: works fine for me
11:27:04[Saint]Torne: do you update reasonably regularly?
11:27:51Torneall the time
11:28:08TorneI used 3.8 for a bit and then went back to trunk
11:28:49[Saint]Hmmm, yeah. Perhaps that's why you're not seeing it. The people that seem to get hit by this updating craziness are going from one release to the next it seems.
11:29:20*kugel_ wonders if r29591 should be considered for backporting
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11:29:24Tornemy settings are intentionally minimal and i don't currently use the db at all
11:29:36Torneso, i am probbaly not a good example :)
11:29:43[Saint]I want to try get hold of another person that experiences this, before they blitz their .cfg
11:33:00kugel[Saint]: you had the albumart problem on the widget too? does this help: http://pastie.org/1678031 ?
11:34:00kugel3.7.1 didn't have the unified build did it?
11:34:40[Saint]kugel: unfortunately I have no way to build yet, I've been saving setting up another build environment for when I get decent internet back on (18th) as the amount of traffic it'd take would be ~2 days with my current one.
11:35:02[Saint]lines - earthquake - etc :/
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11:39:46kugel[Saint]: I made a build for you
11:40:05[Saint]oh, awesome...linky?
11:40:12kugelthe same as always :)
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11:50:32[Saint]nup, found it eventually ;)
11:50:38[Saint]thanks.
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12:21:06kugel[Saint]: does ti work?
12:21:27[Saint]just about to test it now.
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12:26:36[Saint]yep.
12:27:12[Saint]there's no AA if playback is launched with the app, though...it seems it *has* to be launched by the widget.
12:28:03[Saint]rockbox taking over from the android volume on HW buttons was interesting too...
12:28:48[Saint]I had my volume set to 0db, yet the first press of HW volume down muted it completely.
12:30:50kugelbetter than the other way around :)
12:31:24[Saint]I guess so ;)
12:31:48[Saint]I must admit, it was quite nice in a way...as I didn't have the headphones in, and forgot the volume was so loud ;p
12:32:40[Saint]the widget looks nice, and behaves well now...just some initial weirdness with the AA because I launched playback with the app, dropped to the desktop, then created the widget.
12:32:48kugelbut no, it needn't be started with the widget
12:33:04[Saint]after I stopped playback with the app, and started it again with the widget AA works as expected.
12:33:10kugelbut it's possible that the widget needs to be there beforehand
12:33:23[Saint]I think that may be what I ran into.
12:33:50[Saint]Nice work...now, to make that line height thing configurable ;)
12:34:09[Saint](looks *crap* on 240x320 IMO ;))
12:34:12kugelthe track info is fetched upon widget creation but it's not easily doable for album art
12:35:24kugelthen I shall commit it
12:36:00[Saint]kugel: I don't suppose the line-height thing can be configured by a menu option? or does it need to be a runtime thing?
12:36:32[Saint]I can see it being useful for large screens, smaller screens not so much.
12:38:18kugelwhat's wrong with the line height?
12:38:52CIA-2New commit by 03kugel (r29600): Android: Fix widget albumart display on pre-2.2 devices.
12:39:16kugelon the widget or in rockbox?
12:39:34[Saint]It might be a personal thing, but I like to control the height of my lines with my fonts if I need to...most theme authors do.
12:39:37[Saint]in Rockbox.
12:40:21kugelyou can if you pick a font larger than the line height :)
12:40:37kugelcan you make a screen shot?
12:40:44[Saint]no, sorry.
12:41:02[Saint]but, even with a 12pt font, the lines are bigger then I have them with a 24px font ;)
12:41:41dionoea[Saint]: yeah, the widget only updates completely after the first track change following its creation
12:41:42kugel(you can make screen shots easily with the ddms tool in the sdk)
12:42:08[Saint]kugel: remember why you had to make me a build? ;)
12:42:09dionoea(I commited code to force it to get the artist/album/track info on creation but other things like playback status or album art aren't handled yet)
12:42:26kugel[Saint]: I thought you have the sdk but not updated to the newest revision
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12:42:53[Saint]the dev machine I had got messed up real bad in that quake.
12:43:13CIA-2r29600 build result: All green
12:43:14kugelthat's unfortunate
12:43:38scromplegreets everyone... Was just looking at putting together a theme for the tuner on an iriver H340. Checked over the docs and could not find the entry to specify the .fmx file in the config file for the theme. Anyone know what it is??
12:43:55rasherscromple: try saving your settings to a file and looking through that to see (also, I don't know)
12:43:56[Saint]I have another machine to use, just been stuck with a very, very slow connection.
12:47:37scromplerasher: Ahh... Well shoot... Was manually editing the files on Textpad. I will grab a copy of the Theme Editor and knock up some files quick to take a look at.
12:48:01rasherscromple: no I mean on your player, save your entire config to a file and look through that
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12:49:05scromplerasher: Oh wow... okedoke... Not done that before. Will check the docs on how and git 'er done.
12:49:34[Saint]"fms: /.rockbox/wps/<name_of_fms>.fms"
12:49:40scromplerasher: Thanks for the tip
12:49:54[Saint]that's the entry you want.
12:50:05rasherAh, there we go
12:50:15scromple[Saint]: Thanks as well for the pointer. Will make a note in my own docs.
12:50:24[Saint]no worries.
12:50:31rasherMy solution is more of a "here's how to figure out the name for various settings" recipe
12:51:04[Saint]rasher: we have a page for the config settings, but it doesn't cover theme extensions.
12:51:18[Saint]perhaps it should.
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12:51:24scromplerasher: Now worries... Have no doubt I will need that at some point. So the effort is not wasted.
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12:51:36rasher[Saint]: I don't see why not
12:52:10scromple[Saint]: Would that page be a reasonable place to drop tid bits like this??
12:52:56[Saint]certainly, it's probably just oversight that the info isn't there (if it's indeed not, as I believe...I may be blind).
12:53:12[Saint]It may even predate the .fms file extension.
12:54:03scrompleIf it is there, it wouldn't be the first time I suffered from selective blindness.
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12:55:37scrompleThis is going off topic now... Is it possible to add to the wiki by just getting an account or does it require an admin auth??
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12:56:05[Saint]it's not offtopic if it's about contributing to the wiki.
12:56:18[Saint]you set up an account, then ask here for edit rights.
12:58:23scromple[Saint]: okedoke... I got a heap of work to do testing out what works and on my own docs first so I can get my head around everything. But after those hard yards it should not be any hassle to add info to the wiki.
12:59:54scrompleThanks for the info rasher and [Saint]
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13:51:53AlexPOpen source outreach? :)
13:52:23kugelGreat company! :)
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13:54:19preglownice, 3.8 just hung my h120 when i tried to access a dir while playback switched to another dir
13:54:30preglowstuck on "Loading..."
13:57:22preglowknown problem?
13:58:12ZagorI haven't heard about it, at least
13:58:54preglowweird, backlight responds to key presses, but no matter how long i keep stop pressed, it doesn't reboot
13:59:21kugelthat's not unusual
13:59:37kugelit means some thread deadlocked, the backlight thread almost never deadlocks
13:59:42[Saint]you can get some awesome playback glitches most times by trying to skip tracks just as the last track of a playlist is ending.
13:59:48[Saint]perhaps this was the case?
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14:00:07preglowdefinitely
14:00:16preglowsome bug like that's been around for ages
14:00:17[Saint]then yes, I have seen this.
14:01:10[Saint]was it in the .wps, or filebrowser/database when it locked?
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14:05:31LambdaCalculus37Can someone refresh my memory... which WM codec is in the Gigabeat F/X?
14:06:20preglow[Saint]: wps
14:06:26preglow[Saint]: sry, file browser
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16:32:22kugeldionoea: did you try the pcm rewrite yet?
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16:40:13B4gderI'm thinking we need to change the first line of text on the site
16:40:28B4gder"Rockbox is an open source firmware for mp3 players"
16:40:48saratogaGuest64218: ping
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16:42:24Gurohi everyone. Will I find there a help with bricked CLIp+?
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16:44:47Guroconnecting recovery pins doesn't work - It's still recognized as a m200plus 4mb ...
16:44:52Gurosry for my eng ;)
16:46:11saratogakeep trying i guess
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16:48:07Gurook...
16:48:25gevaertsGuro: is connecting those pins on its own supposed to do more?
16:48:45gevaertsYou'll still have to copy some firmware image to it
16:49:00GuroI know
16:49:16saratogait should give you access to a larger NAND parition
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16:49:57Guroyes, it should
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16:55:17Gurostill doesnt work
16:55:17Guromaye new player?:/
16:59:18Gurook thanks for all
16:59:18Gurobye
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17:15:10linuxstbBagder: So what is Rockbox now?
17:19:02dionoeakugel: nope :/
17:20:59kugelheh, idle power off also works now. nice
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17:58:20LambdaCalculus37kugel: Ping; what's your opinion about what needs to be done with FS #11906?
17:59:48kugeldon't implement a second playlist engine inside of a codec (or at all)
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18:00:35LambdaCalculus37kugel: Just use the existing one, correct?
18:01:40kugelit doesn't seem that easy
18:01:52kugelbecause that playlists contain actual metadata
18:02:15LambdaCalculus37kugel: In the case of many of the chiptune formats, yes.
18:03:51kugelthat patch implements the codec as codec+playlist reader+metadata parser. it should be just a codec
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18:09:15LambdaCalculus37kugel: There was a question posted in the comments that asked the following (and I quote): "Is there currently any codec in Rockbox, that uses external files to store additional data about the file to be played? If so, which codecs do it?"
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19:45:08CIA-2New commit by 03Buschel (r29603): More robust implementation of MPEG frame header search. The parser will not only search for the very first byte sequence that looks like a valid MPEG ...
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20:41:42pixelmaBuschel: (since it's quite a while already and you haven't said anything) - are you planning on fixing the red, even if it's "just" sims?
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21:35:13wodzoh
21:35:46wodzok, not my errors
21:36:12gevaertsThey belong to all of us! :)
21:36:51wodzI was just surprised that changing keymap caused errors
21:39:11bertrikAny plans to fix them?
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21:42:58bertrikhm, the archos recorder fm sim that failed to compile seems to build fine here
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21:56:09Buschelsorry, back again. had a real life interrupt... will now fix the reds
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22:24:12CIA-2New commit by 03Buschel (r29605): Fix red. read_uint32be() was not implemented in sim builds for HWCODEC targets.
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22:29:23Buschelwtf
22:31:15pixelmano, database tool
22:31:34Buschelyeah, and the binsize increase is a bit too much...
22:33:00sideralscorche: Right. I wanted to ask you to remove the character limit for the RSS feeds in the forum
22:33:18pixelmaBuschel: huh, why are targets affected at all?
22:33:48scorche|shsideral: and you mentioned you knwo where this setting is?
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22:34:04Buschelbecause I moved metadata_common to not only being build for SWCODEC
22:34:13sideralscorche: You'd have to set "maximum post length" to 0. It's in Admin -> News and Newsletters -> Settings
22:34:50scorche|shah - i didnt think of checking there
22:34:54BuschelI wanted to get the read_-functions from it. otherwise I need to implement an own version in mp3data.c ...
22:35:11scorche|shhoweve,r i am not going to set it to 0 - that is even marked in the forum software as a bad idea if that wasnt apparent ;)
22:35:20sideralscorche: I also found out that the author name is already exported in the Atom feed, and that the number of items to return per feed can be set in the request URL
22:35:26pixelmaBuschel: is this really needed? Hwcodec supports a lot less fornats, although I don't understand exactly what your change did
22:35:36pixelmaformats too
22:35:36scorche|shit is currently at 255 - how much would you like it to be?
22:35:50BuschelI guess it is not worth it...
22:36:11*Buschel grumbles... all of this because he wanted have easy readable code :/
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22:36:25sideralscorche: Not sure what would cover most articles. I suggest to make it at least 8 KB
22:36:48scorche|shsideral: i assume that this is working in terms of characters...
22:37:01sideralscorche: Yes, it is
22:37:26sideralwith this change
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22:37:48sideral...it should be possible to read the forum comfortably with a news reader
22:38:33sideralI've also subscribed some feeds to gwene.org already, although I'd like to change the URLs I've signed up there once more to use Atom feeds and larger limits
22:38:55sideralWith that, I can read the forum in my news (NNTP) reader, and I'll be happy :)
22:41:12scorche|shsideral: so apparently 8KB is about 8192 characters - i would wager that most of the posts are far, far below that...how about we go to 2000 and see how well it works for you?
22:41:42sideralscorche: I'd rather opt for some comfortable headroom
22:42:00sideralRecall that this is HTML
22:42:48sideralThe current 255 characters often do not fill the 4 or 5 screen lines the limit suggests
22:47:52*scorche|sh brings the feed up himself and plays around a bit with numbers
22:51:14JdGordon|wodz: pong
22:53:06wodzJdGordon|: nevermind I worked out the problem with rectrigger keymap already
22:53:38JdGordon|k, cool
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22:55:25wodzthe way rectrigger menu is implemented it leaves philosophical question - should the keymap be more like in list or more like in settings :-)
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22:57:29wodzpersonally I think this menu should be redesigned to be consistent with our other settings
22:59:06JdGordon|by all means go for it :)
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23:05:15JdGordon|anecdotal evidence suggests noone actually uses that menu so having it broken really isnt that big of a deal
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23:05:49CIA-2New commit by 03Buschel (r29607): Avoid magic numbers. Use the available defines to set up the bit mask to compare MPEG frame headers.
23:07:59wodzJdGordon|: not true - I was asked by an MPIO rb user why he can't set rectrigger
23:08:43JdGordon|ARE YOU REFUTING MY EVIDENCE?!!
23:08:50JdGordon|how dare you! :p
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