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#rockbox log for 2011-03-22

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00:25:02CIA-2New commit by 03bertrik (r29630): AMSv2 SD: send 80 idle clocks before sending initial CMD0 (go idle state)
00:28:12CIA-2r29630 build result: All green
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00:56:02milk_hey y'alls, got a problem with my sansa clip+ - neither rockbox or the sansa firmware is getting beyond their respective 'scanning disk...'/ 'refreshing your media' pages. is there an easy way to recover from this?
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01:10:46white_magichow can i boot into default firmware (w/o uninstalling rockbox) from my sansa clip+?
01:11:55JdGordon|hold |<< while booting
01:11:58JdGordon|rtfm
01:12:21white_magici googled it and found some manual but it didnt help
01:12:23white_magicthanks tho
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01:22:06LeifIf anyone get's a moment, could you tell me if there was any problems with the way I submitted this (hopefully trivial) patch: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12023
01:22:08Leifthank you.
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01:40:22teasp00nhey guys, im trying to build the android app from source
01:40:36teasp00nIve created the build directory and run configure from there
01:40:46teasp00nwhen i try make i get the following error:
01:40:53teasp00nmake: *** No rule to make target `/home/teasp00n/source/rockbox-3.8/build-dir/thread-android-arm.c', needed by `/home/teasp00n/source/rockbox-3.8/build-dir/firmware/thread.o'. Stop.
01:41:15teasp00nI am relatively new to make so can someone please advise me how to fix this?
01:42:52[Saint]either something wen't wrong with configure, or your source is incomplete I think.
01:43:34teasp00nyeah from what I can gather I'm mising the thread-android-arm.c file
01:43:46teasp00nwell, from what i can gather from the error message
01:44:18teasp00n should be running make from the build directory correct?
01:44:35wtachiyes
01:44:36[Saint]correct.
01:45:20[Saint]do you have any patches in your source tree?
01:45:47teasp00nOK, I downloaded source, made directory build-dir, ran ../tools/configure from within build-dir
01:45:57teasp00nno
01:46:07teasp00nits clean
01:46:35teasp00nam I missing a step?
01:46:52[Saint]ok, then "svn revert -R . && svn up && svn stat" should make sure your source tree is complete and clean.
01:47:30[Saint]and yes, you might well be...do you have the Android SDK and NDK installed, ad well as a JDK?
01:47:31teasp00nI didn't use subversion to get the source. Shall I do that and try again?
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01:47:43teasp00nboth SDK and NDK installed
01:47:53[Saint]how did you get the source? did you just extract it from the source tarball?
01:48:00teasp00nalthough I only have the paths defined for this specific terminal session
01:48:07teasp00nyeah
01:48:09teasp00ntarball
01:48:21[Saint]that should be fine, but if you're wanting to keep it up to date, it's best to use the svn repo.
01:48:28[Saint]s/best/easier/
01:48:47teasp00nYeah I'm just using this to get to grips with things
01:48:56Leifteasp00n, I believe it has to be an actual environment variable.
01:49:14teasp00nso define it properly in bashrc?
01:49:25LeifYes...something like this:
01:49:28Leif(from my .bashrc)
01:49:44Leifexport ANDROID_SDK_PATH=~/eclipse/android-sdk-linux_86/
01:49:44Leifexport ANDROID_NDK_PATH=~/eclipse/android-ndk-r5b/
01:49:49[Saint]which OS are you using teasp00n?
01:49:52Leif(obviously change it to your paths)
01:49:57teasp00nubuntu 10.10
01:50:05teasp00nWill do, thanks Leif
01:50:10Leifgood luck
01:50:14[Saint]put the env vars in /.profile then
01:50:38teasp00nok
01:50:43teasp00nadvantage being?
01:51:29[Saint]that's just the "correct" place to put them, according to Ubuntu.
01:51:40teasp00nat the end of the file is fine?
01:51:47Leifteasp00n, It should work for your whole system, rather than just the terminal window.
01:51:54teasp00nYeah
01:51:55LeifIn this case though, it shouldn't make much of a difference. (Afaik)
01:52:03teasp00nThat does make sense actually
01:52:30Leifteasp00n, Here: http://www.joshstaiger.org/archives/2005/07/bash_profile_vs.html
01:52:36Leif(and yes, the end is good)
01:52:41LeifI think...
01:53:32[Saint]with the S/NDK installed, the source downloaded, the env vars for ANDROID_S/NDK_PATH set, and a JDK installed (Sun Java/openJDK/etc.) everything should "just work".
01:54:00teasp00nOK cool
01:54:18teasp00nIll need to log off and back on to apply these variables from wh
01:54:22teasp00nwhat i can gather lol
01:54:24teasp00nbrb
01:54:44Leifokay
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02:02:07teasp00nhey guys im back
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02:02:34teasp00nsame issue with those variables in my .profile
02:02:49LeifI see, what is the output when you type env
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02:16:07Leifteasp00n, Probably not.
02:16:17S_a_i_n_tif you haven't specifically made a touch enabled theme for it, or there's not one shipped with it (I have no idea of the screen dimensions of the droid x) then the .wps will be in grid mode iiuc.
02:16:26teasp00nok no, i just tried and it fails on the same thing...
02:16:26teasp00nweird
02:16:26teasp00nok
02:16:34teasp00nim going to set up subversion
02:16:50*Leif likes git.
02:17:00teasp00nrofl
02:17:12teasp00nwe prefer git do we?
02:17:15LeifS_a_i_n_t, it's 854x480 or something weird like that..
02:17:25Leifteasp00n, No, just me. You should probably use svn.
02:17:33Leif(as that's what everyone else seems to use)
02:17:40teasp00nyeah ok haha
02:17:56S_a_i_n_tLeif: right...that will explain it. You'd need to make your own theme if you want nice absolute point touch areas.
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02:18:59LeifMmm...okay. So If I just use 840x480, would the areas be what I expected (even though there would be a bit of black at the bottom)?
02:19:05LeifS_a_i_n_t,
02:19:25S_a_i_n_tcorrect.
02:19:55LeifOkay, I'll try that then.
02:20:32S_a_i_n_tI'm in the process of making a new layout for the default theme, with touch enabled targets in mind.
02:20:38S_a_i_n_tbut it's a daunting task.
02:21:09S_a_i_n_tI have most of it done, all that's really needed is a tiny bit of coding and then porting it to the various screen dimensions.
02:21:29JdGordon|and work to make the sbs buttons usable
02:21:32LeifS_a_i_n_t, Mmm...cool. Although the SDL builds seem to act properly with a mouse. But I don't know how hard coded that sort of thing is.
02:21:34JdGordon|hopefully tonight/tomorowo
02:21:40Leifcool
02:23:18LeifOh cool, it works. Thanks.
02:24:28LeifAlthough is there any easy way I can increase the font size to something readable? (It will be painful to try to navigate my way into options and font size with that small size of font).
02:25:33S_a_i_n_tsure.
02:25:40S_a_i_n_tUse a larger font?
02:25:54S_a_i_n_tJdGordon|: it appears that "mute" is broken.
02:26:03S_a_i_n_tit mutes fine, but it doesn't unmute.
02:26:27LeifS_a_i_n_t, Meh, I meant get to the larger font interface (ideally without modifying the source code to make a larger font the default).
02:26:29teasp00nOK using the source i got via svn i appear to be getting further through the make process
02:26:38teasp00nweird :S
02:26:41teasp00nthanks guys
02:26:46Leifbut meh, thanks to a magnifying glass, I'm *almost* there.
02:26:46JdGordon|S_a_i_n_t: file a bug or remind me tonight
02:27:57S_a_i_n_tLeif: add the fontpack to your SD card, and, select a larger font.
02:28:16S_a_i_n_t(unless you're already using 35pt font)
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02:29:55LeifS_a_i_n_t, What I meant was that I was having a hard time navigating the interface to change the font...but now I see the config file in the rockbox folder...thanks. :)
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02:49:06JdGordon|S_a_i_n_t: on android?
02:50:01S_a_i_n_tJdGordon|: What...the mute/un-mute issue? If so, yes.
02:50:56JdGordon|yes
02:50:56JdGordon|can you roll back to before zagors volume change and see if that broke it?
02:51:02S_a_i_n_tnot presently, but...perhaps later tonight.
02:51:44JdGordon|alhough, i'd be surprised if that did break it
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03:08:09saratogabertrik: (for the logs) as of the current build my SD card doesn't get detected on boot (although it does work fine if i insert it after bootup)
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03:57:37LeifDoes rockbox use math.h at all?
03:58:33LeifOh never mind, I just realized I could multiply a number by itself to square it...plurp. :)
03:58:43*Leif learns fourth grade math all over again.
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04:02:30JdGordon|and a hint... you can do addition in a loop incase you misplace the * key on your keyboard!
04:03:02Leiflol
04:03:02saratogaLeif: you couldn't use pow anyway since we don't do floating point
04:03:15Leifsaratoga, Oh, really?
04:03:46saratogaARM is integer only unless you have a floating point coprocessor
04:03:55Leifsaratoga, So, how does the calculator work then?
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04:04:01LeifOh, okay
04:04:02saratogainteger math
04:04:40saratogaall the DSP stuff is integer actually
04:04:44LeifSo, where is the library that makes integer math appear to be floating point to the end user located?
04:05:22saratogaits probably just a function in the calculator
04:05:33Leifsaratoga, Mmm...okay, thanks
04:05:56saratogaand technically I think it appears as fixed point to the user
04:06:22saratogaalthough i guess theres not much difference to a user
04:06:25rasherI thought the calculator plugin actually used softfloats in some places?
04:06:33rasherMaybe that was the past
04:06:40saratogai'll ask grep
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04:07:40Leifthe calculator code seems to be including math.h
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04:08:34LeifAnd returning doubles...
04:09:14saratogaah it does
04:09:38saratogai didn't realize we could do that in plugins
04:10:01Leifcool, thanks.
04:10:19*Leif whips sweat of forhead, and goes back to working on his first plugin.
04:10:57saratogaalthough i'm a little surprised it has functions for computing square roots if it has access to math.h
04:11:38LeifMmmm...do you know the algorithm math.h uses to compute square roots?
04:12:10Leifwipes*
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04:12:36JdGordon|math.h doesnt implement algorithms
04:12:48saratogaah yeah its not a real math.h
04:13:00saratogajust a few defines
04:13:29Leifsaratoga, Ah, okay
04:13:56saratoga so it looks like add,sub,mul,div will work via the compilers software floating point, probably not much else
04:14:36LeifThat's all I need. (I only needed to square, nothing to a higher power)
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05:03:26axioni am having a problem installing rockbox on my player.
05:06:27marazwhat kind of player is it and what kind of a problem are you having?
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05:16:21axionthanks, but i got it :)
05:16:36axioni didn't know i had a clip plus
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06:17:08teasp00npotentially noob question; how do you know what header file is being included? im looking over the common.c for the bootloader and it includes lcd.h
06:17:34teasp00nwhen i locate that in my terminal it comes up with quite a few hits in the linux kernel
06:18:00teasp00nis it any of these or is it in the src trunk of rockbox specifically?
06:18:39teasp00nagain I apologise if this is trivial
06:18:43JdGordon|take about 15 steps back... what are you trying to do?
06:19:01teasp00nim simply looking at it for academic purposes
06:19:08teasp00ni want to learn how it works
06:19:18wtachiteasp00n: Rockbox is unlikely to #include anything from Linux
06:19:23JdGordon|all the rockbox sources are in the rockbox source checkout
06:19:34JdGordon|most are in firmare/export and firmware/include
06:19:37teasp00nok that makes sense
06:19:45teasp00nthanks
06:20:01teasp00nhow come when we include it in the file we dont need to specify the path?
06:21:11wtachiRockbox gives a -I flag to the compiler, indicating which directories should be searched
06:21:41teasp00nOK cheers
06:22:15teasp00nat uni my projects were contrived and were often a flat heirarchy
06:22:35teasp00nso headers + source in same directory hence not needing that
06:24:05JdGordon|this is a stricly rockbox channel.... that doesnt include general c discussion
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07:38:47Suit_Of_Sableshey gang, I seem to get a permission error when trying to cp or rsync files to my mounted sanza fuze. And I can't chown it as the device doesn't understand linux permissions. any advice?
07:39:36JdGordon|thats a linux problem..... you've mounted it as root instead of your user
07:41:41Suit_Of_Sableswhen I try and mount it when signed in as the user I get "only root can do this"
07:42:17JdGordon|try ##linux
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09:30:57JdGordon|S_a_i_n_t: ping?
09:34:23JdGordon|is party mode supposed to disable shuffle mode switching?
09:34:34JdGordon|and repeat doe changing i guess
09:36:54n1sand entering fm radio or recording?
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09:45:04JdGordon|nuts! I need to add more skin button regions :/
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09:45:49JdGordon|right now "next/prev" works as you'd expect in the WPS and works to move up/down in the lists when in a .sbs
09:46:06JdGordon|if we want to add playback controls to the sbs i need 2 new names for that
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09:47:00JdGordon|do I use "list next/list prev"? or "playback next/playback prev" or something completly different?
09:48:12JdGordon|what about "|<<" and ">>|" ?
09:48:19JdGordon|although im not sure the parser will aloow it
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09:51:47moontanHi, i just love my ipod heaps more with rockbox installed! where can i post feature requests/suggestions for rockbox? in the wiki?
09:52:13JdGordon|we dont accept feature requests
09:52:33JdGordon|you are welcome to discuss them here or #rockbox-community but we dont generally look for requests
09:53:51moontanI see. Thx.
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09:57:56linuxstbmoontan: There's a "Feature ideas" forum - http://forums.rockbox.org/
09:58:23*JdGordon| will use "wps_next/wps_prev" as placeholders untill i get a better idea
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10:31:55CIA-2New commit by 03jdgordon (r29631): Add some playback controls to the SBS. 2 new touch regions wps_next/wps_prev needed to make it work. 'next' in the sbs changes list selection, ...
10:32:12S_a_i_n_t......oh. my. god.
10:32:13S_a_i_n_tYAY!
10:32:29S_a_i_n_tI'll revive my work on the themes tonight JdGordon|
10:32:48JdGordon|sure.. dont respond to ping... no.. thats fine!
10:32:48S_a_i_n_tI haven't had a lot of time to work on them lately, but I shall do so tonight.
10:32:50*JdGordon| sobs
10:33:01S_a_i_n_tI just got to the PC now ;)
10:33:07JdGordon|play/pause, stop, prev/next enough?
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10:33:24S_a_i_n_trepeat and shuffle?
10:33:44gevaertsJdGordon|: we want all of them!
10:33:45S_a_i_n_tI'd like to carry the whole control panel from the .wps to the .sbs, basically.
10:34:21JdGordon|its bassically free to add them, ok, coming right up
10:34:30JdGordon|happy with wps_next/prev there?
10:35:35S_a_i_n_tJdGordon|: I feel like an ass mentioning it now, since you just added a *very* cool feature I've been nagging you about for a while now...but, did you have a look at mute (specifcally unmute)
10:35:40CIA-2r29631 build result: All green
10:35:46S_a_i_n_t"happy with wps_next/prev there?" <−−- Hmmm?
10:35:58JdGordon|no because i pinged to ask if you had more info
10:36:02S_a_i_n_tdoes this change the action names for the wps touch regions also?
10:36:14JdGordon|next/prev in the sbs is used to change the list selection
10:36:31JdGordon|you can still use them in the wps, but in the sbs they are 2 distinct actions
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10:36:33S_a_i_n_tOh...right, gotcha.
10:37:49S_a_i_n_tre: mute/unmute...mute works as expected (dropping the volume to -99dB), but pressing it again (it *is* like a toggle, right?) doesn't return to the previous volume.
10:37:57S_a_i_n_tJdGordon|: ^
10:38:12JdGordon|it is, and ok, i'll have a quick look
10:38:45S_a_i_n_tI thought it actually worked like "conventiona;" mute, and didn't affect the volume...but disabled the sound output.
10:38:56S_a_i_n_tbut, it seems to just drop the volume to min?
10:39:04S_a_i_n_t*conventional
10:39:09JdGordon|works fine in the sdl app
10:39:23S_a_i_n_tHmmm..not on my phone :/
10:39:50S_a_i_n_tI don't have to set long and short presses for it to work as mute/unmute do I?
10:39:53JdGordon|rockbox doesnt actually have a "muted" state for audio playback
10:39:57JdGordon|nope
10:40:36S_a_i_n_tYeah, then it's definitely not working as expected on my phone.
10:40:55S_a_i_n_tI also found something unexpected with using the HW keys for the volume.
10:41:13CIA-2New commit by 03jdgordon (r29632): Make repeat mode/shuffle work in the sbs also
10:41:32JdGordon|this sounds like Zagor's volume changes last week(?) broke something
10:41:55S_a_i_n_tIf it's running through the internal speaker, the HW buttons try to overlay their usual "volume changing" beep over Rockbox's audio....and Rockbox *really* doesn't seem to like this, and FCs.
10:42:26ZagorS_a_i_n_t: mute? do you have switch for that?
10:42:54S_a_i_n_tZagor: it's a touch region.
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10:43:37JdGordon|hw vol buttons work fine for me, I dont have a mute touchregion on my phone :/
10:44:12[Saint]does your phone normally do a "beep" when changing the media/system volume though?
10:44:14JdGordon|Zagor: the touch region just sets the volume to minimum and then back to whatever it was before
10:44:23JdGordon|I wouldnt expect that to break though
10:44:30JdGordon|[Saint]: yeah
10:44:38[Saint]Hmmm...weird.
10:44:47CIA-2r29632 build result: All green
10:45:05[Saint]my phone also really hates keyclick and track skip beep...it FCs if they are enabled.
10:45:31*JdGordon| patiently waits for a 1028x600 cabbie :)
10:45:49[Saint]heh...I have ~50% of it done.
10:46:17*[Saint] dissappears for a while...
10:47:13n1swhy would you want mute rather than pause?
10:51:19linuxstbn1s: That's what I was wondering. I guess for the radio?
10:52:07n1sah, yes, radio
10:52:18n1sdo we have that in RaaA?
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15:54:09Bubsyanyone can help me with a bricked sansa view?
15:55:14gevaertsUnlikely
15:55:35Bubsyi see
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17:40:27*linuxstb wonders about suggesting streaming audio support (for RaaA) as an SoC project.
17:41:21linuxstbThis could also be the basis for future support for digital radio (DAB etc).
17:41:31saratogai suggested adding APIs for things like network access inside RAAA plugins
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17:42:32linuxstbsaratoga: Not on the wiki page though>?
17:43:20saratogano just informally on IRC
17:43:30linuxstbI see it more as a core feature than a plugin though. But I can't really justify that view...
17:43:30saratogai don't know enough about RAAA to suggest real projects
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17:49:52sideralscorche: I noticed that the forum web server serves its content entirely uncacheable (Expires in 1997, pragma no-cache). Is this intended?
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18:04:59linuxstbsideral: What content do you mean? This image is cachable, for example - http://forums.rockbox.org/Themes/Rockbox_Llorean/images/rockbox100.png
18:06:14siderallinuxstb: the home page, for example: http://forums.rockbox.org/ −− and the (RSS, Atom) feeds
18:07:11linuxstbsideral: Well, the page is unlikely to be the same next time you view it...
18:07:41linuxstbEspecially since it contains the current date/time at the top.
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18:08:38siderallinuxstb: No complaints if the server can handle the load. But I think a few minutes delay until it expires would be fine, especially for the feeds
18:09:08*gevaerts points out that "Expires in 1997" is not actually the officially best way to make things not be cached
18:09:14linuxstbThe server seems to be able to handle the load - or have you noticed problems?
18:09:39*linuxstb guesses this is just how the forum software works, and would mean patching the source to change the behaviour
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18:11:16sideralno, I didn't experience problems −− it was only me feeling guilty from refreshing the feeds quite often ;)
18:12:01wtachithe wiki does the same thing, which is a bit annoying when clicking in the table of contents
18:12:04wtachisince it has to refresh
18:12:22gevaertswtachi: that's a different issue
18:12:26saratogayeah i like how wiki links to the same page reload the page
18:12:36gevaertsIt's because the base URL is different
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18:24:23LeifIs there any (hopefully easy) way to get atof() like functionality, or was that not included in the plugin api due to technical limitations?
18:25:05gevaertsLeif: it's not included because You Shouldn't Use Floats :)
18:25:45Leifgevaerts, I see. even though some plugins do?
18:26:11gevaertsAnd it definitely won't be in the plugin api, since that's the interface to the core, where one not only shouldn't use floats, but *mustn't*
18:26:16linuxstbWell, there are always exceptions to rules...
18:26:32linuxstbBut if your code is speed-critical, then you will fail with floats.
18:27:06LeifI do agree with that, although what I'm working on isn't really speed critical. ;)
18:29:39linuxstbLeif: But no, Rockbox doesn't link with libm. So you're on your own.
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18:30:33Leiflinuxstb, Okay, thanks. I'll see what I can do. :)
18:30:40LeifIt shouldn't be too hard to parse the string...
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20:10:49saratogaLeif: if this is a plugin you can just use your own atof() function
20:11:16saratogashould be easy to find a GPL one online
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20:14:37Leifsaratoga, Ya, that's what I eventually did, thanks. :)
20:15:49LeifNow I'm just debugging. (Apparently my fuze v2, unlike the simulator) doesn't like doubles...which would make sense except that the calculator plugin works as expected...
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20:37:33CIA-2New commit by 03learman (r29633): Commit FS #12000: confttv - try to make digits equally wide (-w to disable)
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20:53:04pixelmaBuschel: do you mean one manual specifically or a certain build environment? I haven't tried lately
20:53:37Buschelpixelma: I only tried the nano 2g manual under cygwin
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21:00:20pixelmabuilding under linux seems to work, testing on cygwin will take a bit longer (including booting laptop etc.). I think there was another font rendering fix which may require some new package or so, but I can't really tell currently (and I need lunch still too)
21:01:59pixelmaor dinner
21:02:25BuschelI will search the latest changes in /manual for any hint
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21:21:06Buschelpixelma: r29428 causes this build failure
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21:22:31pixelmamaybe bluebrother knows more about inputenc on cygwin...
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21:41:56Buschelcan an english native speaker please review the manual patch in FS #12024?
21:43:21AlexPBuschel: either "These settings" or "This setting" - here "This setting"
21:43:40AlexPactually, I'll do it to pastebin :)
21:43:54Buschelyou are checking the latest patch, not the first one?
21:44:15Lear"generally enables" sounds a bit odd to me...
21:44:39Buscheldrop "generally"?
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21:47:17LearProbably. Do you mean something like "in all lists" with it?
21:47:35AlexPBuschel: http://pastebin.com/DBZRxbth
21:47:37Buschelyes
21:47:41AlexPBuschel: Oh, that's the first one
21:48:28AlexPwell, that'll do for both, they look similar
21:48:35AlexPLear: Anything to add to that pastebin?
21:49:33LearAlexP: No.
21:49:46*Buschel merges now
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21:55:03pixelmaAlexP: while you are around - the spam plugin seems to have caught some regular posts again, maybe you can approve those
21:55:13pixelmain the forums of course
21:55:14AlexPsure
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21:55:52AlexPOK
21:55:58BuschelLear/AlexP: thanks!
21:56:22AlexPNo worries :)
21:57:58bluebrotherpixelma, Buschel: inputenc causing problems in Cygwin?
21:58:17Buschelbluebrother: at least with my setup
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21:59:05pixelmawas about to try a build myself
21:59:40bluebrotherhmm, never tried building the manual in Cygwin. If I want to use LaTeX on Windows I usually use MikTeX ...
21:59:54bluebrother(but that is unlikely to work with our build system)
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22:00:28bluebrotherwell, it could even work −− if LaTeX is not installed in the Cygwin environment. Hmm. Maybe I should try that.
22:01:00BuschelLear, AlexP: is this fine as well (second paragraph) -> http://pastie.org/1701381
22:01:46Buschelin fact the scroll speed is *not* doubled. the settings just suggests that
22:01:59AlexPBuschel: I'd use increase instead of rise both times, but other than that it looks fine
22:02:30AlexPThe second one could be raise, but I still prefer increase
22:03:02Buschelok, done
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22:06:54pixelmabluebrother: I get "inputenx.sty not found" - where should it be comming from?
22:07:42bertrikcurrent rockbox seems to be a bit broken for me, I often get a data abort after the first song played, anyone else getting this too?
22:07:53bluebrotherpixelma: on my system it's in the package texlive-texmf-latex-2007-36.fc14.noarch
22:08:50pixelmawell yeah, texlive still isn't available for cygwin (at least through setup.exe IIRC) and tetex isn't being developed anymore :/
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22:10:26bluebrotherhmm. I guess I should install Cygwin on my Windows box and try that myself.
22:10:42bluebrothermaybe using Cygwin together with TeXLive or MikTeX works.
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22:11:31bluebrotherwould be nice to be able using a recent LaTeX distribution
22:11:50pixelmameh, I don't want yet another environment installation
22:12:23bluebrotherfor inputenx itself see http://ftp.uni-erlangen.de/mirrors/CTAN/help/Catalogue/entries/inputenx.html −− doesn't sound it's too recent though
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22:28:26bertrikAnyone familiar with data aborts on the AMSv2 players? I'm getting a data abort at 0x308141c4 (that's in RAM IIRC) with address 0xE313002C (looks more like an instruction than an address to me)
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22:29:08saratogai haven't seen any recently
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22:29:13saratogado you have the map file?
22:29:49CIA-2New commit by 03Buschel (r29635): Scroll speed is increased every N seconds, not every N half seconds.
22:30:12bertriksaratoga, yes
22:30:30saratogawhats it map to?
22:30:31Buschelanyone here with a h10?
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22:31:22bertriksaratoga, I can't find it in the map file
22:31:36saratogais it in DRAM?
22:31:40pixelmabluebrother: I'm a bit confused - is there a separate program (or even IDE) called TexLive and a package (for linux) called texlive - and/or are they related? I'm trying to make sense of the google results I get for a possible solution
22:31:45bertrikIIRC, I should be able to get a symbol near it with addr2line
22:32:09saratogai guess also check that its not in the audiobuffer or something crazy like that
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22:52:23wodzto arm gurus: what should I specify to compile code for arm7ej-s SoC?
22:52:33wodzI mean the flag for gcc
22:57:18n1si don't remember the crazy arm generations, what are the difference to arm7tdmi?
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22:58:45Bagder-march=armv5t
22:59:21wodzarm versioning is a mess and gcc switches makes it even worse
22:59:47n1swell, that one is weird
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23:00:35n1sbut since it has the arm7 "pipeline" scheduling shouldn't matter much so yes i agree with Bagder's suggestion :)
23:01:00n1s(i'm by no means a "arm guru" though :))
23:03:05Bagderhttp://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,27514.msg179258.html#msg179258
23:03:20Bagderan encouraging post that
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23:15:31saratogaha theres no gcc switch for arm7e
23:15:34saratogaweird
23:15:41saratogai guess not many of those cpus were made
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23:17:31wodzsaratoga: if you count in silicon pieces - 50% of cheap chines DAPs
23:17:51saratogawhich SOC?
23:17:56saratogasome rockchip one?
23:18:49wodzrk270x one
23:19:18wodzrk26xx is DSP based, rk28xx is arm926
23:19:49saratogaarm7e always seemed like a neat chip, will be nice to have a device with it
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23:23:48wodzha! timer interrupt works on this weird SoC :-) The trick is that you should read interrupt mask enable/disable bit as inverse interrupt enable :-)
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23:48:47froggymanwhat happened to the "Sponsor" section on the main page? It appears to be empty right now
23:49:56gevaertsfroggyman: there are still four names there
23:50:09gevaertsWere there many more recently?
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