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#rockbox log for 2011-04-28

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00:30:21amiconnjhMikeS: The X5 uses the 18 bit interface mode - but the HD66773R is only pseudo 18 bit (it dithers on transfer, as the internal memory only stores 16bpp)
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00:30:56amiconnThe H300 has the reverse flaw. It uses the 16 bit interface mode, but the HD66789R is true 18 bpp internally
00:31:20amiconnOn another matter, did someone try the playback rework on RaaA already? (specifically N900)
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00:41:27jhMikeSamiconn: I know about the x5 display's quirks, I just didn't explain that part. As far as RaaA, [Saint] had been using it for awhile and reported no ill issues with it.
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00:44:41*jhMikeS still has some NSF tweaking to do
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00:46:40*jhMikeS wonders why RAAC is writing id3->frequency while it can set the DSP from id3->frequency before that
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01:02:34pixelmaI've been using it on my phone too
01:03:33pixelmaAndroid though, as the question was about the n900
01:05:40*amiconn just built it for N900
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01:21:31AlexPI've been using it on android too with no problems
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01:33:49JdGordonhas anyone got a 480x800 android raaa build somewhere i can grab please?
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01:36:17dfktJdGordon - http://anythingbutipod.com/forum/showthread.php?t=61238
01:36:24dfktfresh today
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01:44:54JdGordondfkt: thanks.... though meadiafire le suck :)
01:45:35dfktwell, at least you don't have to wait ;)
01:45:52dfkt(and i don't strain my own server)
01:51:17JdGordondammit... how do i get to the font chooser in the rockbox menus? i cant read text so need the item row numbers and android
01:52:19JdGordonfrom the theme settings menu
01:52:26dfktthat's where i like that my screen is a shabby resistive that works with a stylus...
01:53:28JdGordonwell the dpad works fine, i cant read the screen because the fonts screwed up :)
01:53:42JdGordonmanaged to restore a non broken them through trial+error thouhgh so all good
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04:56:32CIA-87New commit by 03jethead71 (r29793): Get the NSF internal playlists working again. Fix a few wrongdoings in the metadata parser. Use the larger of track or playlist count to determine ...
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05:00:11CIA-87r29793 build result: All green
05:01:06saratogaso is that it for the playback rework or is there more?
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05:03:00jhMikeSThere will be a good deal more. I'd like to know more about what that GSoC project has in mind too.
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05:06:14saratogaping wtachi then
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05:09:16JoshuaChangstill working on the exciter dsp code...
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05:17:57jhMikeSthis stuff really does need properly multitrack file support...hacking it with seeking is just awful
05:20:17JoshuaChangskip length?
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05:23:29jhMikeSstill, whatever it is, it should just show up like separate tracks even if the source is one file
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05:30:21JoshuaChangi mod the quickscreen to quick shift between skip track and skip second
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07:18:11WhiteDIs there by any chance an Alpha or Beta release of the OS for the Sansa Fuze+? I've been wanting to replace the OS on it for a while now.
07:18:59saratogaWhiteD: did you check the fuze+ wiki page? its got the current state of the port there
07:20:44WhiteDAs in... the forum, or what? I haven't seen the wiki. I checked the forum like two days ago and didn't see anything in regards to an Alpha/Beta.
07:21:58WhiteDScratch that, can't believe I missed it. I will check the wiki.
07:22:50WhiteDNothing.
07:24:10saratogaah yeah the fuze+ page doesn't say what the status of the port is because no one has committed any code yet
07:24:21saratogawell keep checking, i'm sure once something goes in someone will update that page
07:31:09WhiteDWhat is it written in? Python? I am just starting to learn about RockBox so please excuse me.
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08:18:43Fragolino54hola gys
08:19:22Fragolino54guys I have 3.6 revision and I have a problem
08:19:40Fragolino54player sansa fuze 8 gb
08:20:11Fragolino54I have an addictional cad micro sd. When I put the stuff into it The player can't read anything from that.
08:20:24Fragolino54card*
08:20:47Fragolino54now I give an upgrading let's see how come up
08:21:26JdGordonthats over 6 months old... get 3.8.1 and see if its still problematic
08:23:06Fragolino54damn can't reckon sansa version
08:24:28Fragolino54how to check it out?
08:26:16JdGordonhttp://www.rockbox.org/download/
08:26:26JdGordonclick the big fat download installer button
08:28:12Fragolino54yep I know thx but I got 2 option sansa fuze or sansa fuze v2
08:29:04Fragolino54I need to discover my version
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08:31:22Fragolino54http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum/showthread.php?t=37450 how to do that under rockbox soft?
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08:32:08Fragolino54maybe got it!
08:33:57Fragolino54refreshing media 70%
08:35:32Fragolino54vo 1.02.etc
08:35:55Fragolino54vo1.02.03f
08:36:02Fragolino54so I guess it's Version1
08:36:30WhiteDCurious, Fuze or Fuze+?
08:37:16Fragolino54fuze
08:37:32Fragolino54ok let's rock the toy with new and fresh juice
08:37:36WhiteDDarn you got my hopes up.
08:39:15Fragolino54lal
08:39:21Fragolino54I need the missing .bin
08:40:35WhiteDDo you know what language the Rockbox code is written under by chance?
08:41:40Fragolino54why?
08:42:43WhiteDMainly curious. I am going to start getting into Python this weekend. If the off chance Rockbox is built under Python, that would make my day.
08:43:32JdGordonFragolino54: if you used rbutil it would do the install for you and autodetect the version
08:43:35Fragolino54ah sorry. I am a super noob about tese things
08:43:51Fragolino54yep I have seen it has autodetected
08:44:04Fragolino54Now I have to download the .bin
08:44:10JdGordonNO
08:44:16JdGordonpress the auto install button
08:44:34JdGordonwhy are you being difficult? just use the installer
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08:45:26Fragolino54the installer told me he needs the .bin file from sansa
08:45:35Fragolino54other wise it's going to be illegal
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08:46:48Fragolino54http://i51.tinypic.com/1f8gmb.jpg
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08:50:53Fragolino54can't find this .bin
08:51:31rasherFragolino54: If you already have Rockbox installed, you don't really need a new bootloader
08:53:00Fragolino54and what have I to do?
08:53:05rasherFragolino54: Just go to the installation tab and click "Install Rockbox"
08:53:31Fragolino54ahh oki
08:53:33Fragolino54thx
08:53:54Fragolino54well done!
08:54:06Fragolino54the wine is running into veins
08:54:35*Fragolino54 slaps rasher around a bit with a large trout
08:54:43rasherow
08:54:51Fragolino54:)
08:55:07Fragolino54done it
08:55:22Fragolino54refreshing media
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08:57:11Fragolino54I would like to have an extra feature on rockbox. A Spartan easy way to view all the files
08:57:28Fragolino54rather than tags
08:58:09Fragolino54It doesn't match mcro sd database with main database
08:58:40Fragolino54wow
08:58:45Fragolino543.8 is super fast
08:59:29rasherFragolino54: Well there's the file browser
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09:00:00Fragolino54I still have the issue
09:00:16Fragolino54[08:20] <Fragolino54> I have an addictional cad micro sd. When I put the stuff into it The player can't read anything from that.
09:01:14Fragolino54whan I put a folder into micro sd: I boot the sansa I go to micro sd folder, I go to album folder and: I have another folder istead of mp3 files list
09:01:32Fragolino54that folder is unclickabile
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09:02:31Fragolino54I have just checkd the folders conencting sansa via usb and there are files on it.
09:03:03Fragolino54So, Files are into. But sansa can't get the list. This only happen under micro-sd folder
09:03:09White-NoiseHey guys. I'm an ubuntu noob trying to install rockbox on a sansa clip+. I've gotten the clip to show on my desktop and I have the utility running. Anytime I try to install I get this error "OF unkown please try another version."
09:04:10Fragolino54is the version the same?
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09:04:41Fragolino54white noise check your version
09:04:59White-NoiseI feel I may have screwed it up (unintentionally) trying to do a manual install and the version I have showing on the player is v01.02.15a
09:06:41Fragolino54you want the right firmware
09:06:56Fragolino54from sansa forum clip etc
09:07:04Fragolino54pick the firmware
09:07:17White-Noiseok.
09:07:29Fragolino54the .bin file
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09:08:02Fragolino54**guys so do you have any ideas why my fuze can't open micro sd stuff?
09:08:14Fragolino54In the meanwhile I try to cancell files and replacing
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09:10:24White-NoiseI'm having difficulty finding this bin file
09:10:54Fragolino54do you alredy have rockbox installed into your device or not?
09:11:00White-NoiseI moved .rockbox onto the clip.... after downloading it's zip
09:11:12White-NoiseNo I don't.
09:11:21Fragolino54so you need the .bin
09:11:56Fragolino54then you start the rockbox booter link the bin to it ang go instal
09:12:21Fragolino54try to find a zip file of your firmware
09:12:32Fragolino54open it and look for .bin
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09:22:58Fragolino541 hour to move 7 giga
09:23:01Fragolino54bah..
09:23:11Fragolino5430 mins*
09:23:23White-Noiseon to what?
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09:24:42Fragolino54pc to sansa
09:25:01White-Noisedamn. Had no idea transfer rates were that bad.
09:25:19White-NoiseI had a zen without rockbox of course and it updated rather quickly.
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10:41:54n1sgah, neighbours are playing christian rock so i can hear it!
10:42:03n1sheadphones on!
10:43:09n1saaaah, much better
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12:31:27Fragolino54I have a problem
12:31:43Fragolino54rockbox doesn't read the files into micro sd folder
12:31:54Fragolino54sansa fuze
12:32:10Fragolino54I have folders into microsd folder
12:32:26Fragolino54it open only folders and can't display mp3s list
12:32:32Fragolino54why?
12:32:45n1sFragolino54: what is your "show files" setting set to?
12:32:48Fragolino54help me please
12:32:59Fragolino54it's default
12:33:15Fragolino54where to check that?
12:33:45Fragolino54I have done tons of trials
12:33:54Fragolino541) deleted all files and replaced
12:33:59n1si'ts in the settings menu somewhere and in the quickscreen unless you changed that
12:34:08Fragolino54(and checked files extentions etc
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12:34:27Fragolino542) rockbox upgrade
12:34:36Fragolino543) refreshing stuff
12:35:09Fragolino54i am under file view now
12:35:32Fragolino54and I have a palette
12:36:07Fragolino54what option do I need to check now?
12:36:16Fragolino54sort case sensitive
12:36:24Fragolino54sort directories
12:36:32n1sshow files
12:36:33Fragolino54sort files
12:37:01Fragolino54it was playlist
12:37:12n1sso change it to all or supported
12:37:18Fragolino54ok mate
12:37:25Fragolino54giving it a try
12:37:44Fragolino54oohh god
12:37:46Fragolino54be blessed
12:37:49Fragolino54thx mate
12:38:19Fragolino54fully working now
12:38:19gevaertsFragolino54: look up "quickscreen" in the manual to find out what happened
12:38:21Fragolino54:)
12:39:11Fragolino54last thing my friends
12:39:25Fragolino54When I open a cover I don't know how to come back
12:40:09Fragolino54ah ok done
12:40:22Fragolino54pushing home botton for a while then quit
12:42:13Fragolino54rockbox rulez
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17:11:50*n1s had some progress with his usb problem \\o/
17:19:58n1sooohkey, adding a bunch of writes with values that are in the phy regs when booted through dfu mode *and* running the usb init twice makes it work, neither works on its own...
17:20:26n1sin fact just running the usb init in svn now locks up the player so there's definitely something missing there
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17:52:12n1si must have been wrong, my patched init hangs too
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18:05:08n1sah. the old sprinkling a lot of splashes makes the hang go away so maybe a timing bug in the init that somehow only affects the first init after boot
18:05:46n1sthe disassembly surely shows much more delays than we have but i don't wuite understand the delay function they use
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18:28:50n1shmm, this is harder to test than i thought, it seems some state survives a reboot for a while
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18:31:15n1sthe splash sprinkle version seems pretty solid though, but that adds a 1sec delay between each reg write
18:31:25n1swhichs seems excessive
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18:48:01n1sTheSeven: have you looked into how that delay routine the bootrom uses works, it loads a value from global_vars_ptr but i dunno if that can be found in the disassembly or if i just don't know where to
18:48:32n1sbut delays in the usb init seems to be what is missing
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18:54:17*n1s binsearches the delays
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19:00:38ScyI've only really got into rockbox a day ago, but I was curious, is it possible to write a plugin that can interact fully with a connected machine, e.g., run shell commands? (RB for the fuze more specificially. I'm just curious if that interaction is possible before i dive into RB plugin development
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19:02:11ScyAnyone there?
19:02:21bertrikyes
19:02:21gevaertsScy: you can write a plugin that sends HID events to the host, which get interpreted as key presses
19:02:30gevaertsBut I'm not sure if that's what you're after
19:02:51gevaertsApart from that you can of course write any USB-based communication system you want
19:02:52Scycan entire strings be sent as keypresses rather easily?
19:03:42ScyWhat i'm trying to get at, is, upon connecting that usb into the player, it would run a few shell commands on a linux based host
19:04:07gevaertshm, maybe you're better off using usb_serial for that sort of thing
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19:04:40ScyHrrm. Alright.
19:04:48gevaertsYou'll need to wire that up to make it usable from plugins though
19:04:55Scyyeah
19:07:56Scystill gonna look into it, to see how far I can go with host interaction :). Could be a good learning experience
19:10:03n1swouldn't you need something that listens to usb serial on the host too?
19:13:15Scyi would assume. I never really got into that kind of development before. I was just kinda thinking outloud, and wanted to see if anyone else has.
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19:14:41n1siirc someone got usb serial running on some target and used that for logf output but i don't remember any details
19:19:12Scyyeah that's what i had in mind. log output, I'm also a penetration tester, so I had security ideas in mind as well.
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19:43:02n1sha, turns out it was only a single delay that was needed yay for one line patches
19:45:29n1sTheSeven: FS #12083
19:46:20TheSeveninteresting...
19:46:25n1sif anyone else has a classic with the usb hang issue, please test
19:46:44TheSevenyeah, i'm gonna push that one to a few guys :)
19:46:50n1sTheSeven: does starting with usb connected work on other classics?
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19:47:01TheSevenit does
19:47:05n1shmm
19:47:06TheSevenat least on mine
19:47:38TheSevenbut i've seen all kinds of hiccups when switching into an out of usb mode
19:47:44TheSevenand*
19:48:26bertrikn1s, do you have a similar delay after the OTG software reset?
19:49:24bertrikoh, you can poll for it, so no delay needed probably
19:49:28saratogashouldn't that have a 'volatile' somewhere around the loop
19:49:55n1sTheSeven: the bootrom disassembly has a delay after both writing 1 to ORSTCON and then writin 0 to it so it makes sense i think but i don't know how long they delay
19:49:56TheSeveni is probably declared volatile, at least it should be
19:50:12n1ssaratoga: the loop var is volatile
19:50:14TheSevenhow does the bootrom delay call look like?
19:50:26saratogaah ok
19:50:41bertrikDidn't we use a volatile asm nop for the AMS sansa udelay?
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19:50:49TheSevenin emcore i used udelay(10) for the first delay
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19:51:12TheSevenwe should probably just switch that to a proper udelay
19:51:20n1sit calls sub_2000A240 with r0 set to oxA
19:51:23n1s0xA
19:51:41TheSevenhm, now are those usecs or msecs? let me check...
19:52:01n1sthat routine loads a value from memory that i couldn't find in the disassembly
19:53:35TheSeventhe datasheet says that the reset signal needs to be asserted for 10us
19:53:54TheSevenit doesn't mention the OTG not accepting register accesses after that
19:53:55TheSevenlet me check the disassembly
19:54:55TheSevenblargh, that's a calibrated delay loop, and not a timer-based one
19:55:08TheSeveni'd say 10usecs should work
19:55:21TheSevenand IIRC we nowadays have udelay implemented on that target
19:55:27TheSevenand if we don't, we should fix that
19:55:41TheSevenso i'd go for udelay(10) replacing both loops
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19:57:31n1sTheSeven: i can try that tomorrow, gotta run now
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20:30:15ScytheSo, I've gotten rockbox installed on my fuze (2.0), the installation went fine. However, when I connect the USB to the computer (Ubuntu) it isn't detected anymore. In the original FW i had to set it to USB mode=MCP, however, and that fixed my problem, but i don't see that option inside of rockbox
20:30:29Scythewas there something I missed that I had to enable to allow the host OS to detect it?
20:33:29pixelmayou need to manually boot into the OF or plug your Fuzev2 into USB from an off-state as Rockbox USB is not available on those players yet and the automatic reboot into the Sansa firmware was disabled as it caused hard lock-up on some players which you could only get out by running the battery down
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20:34:48Scytheoff state worked, thanks ;)
20:34:52ScytheWas that in the documentation?
20:35:25pixelmaI don't know
20:35:56ScytheAlright. Thanks.
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20:46:49amiconnjhMikeS: Latest svn works on N900 too, but then the pre-rework playback engine worked for me too
20:47:34amiconnThe only (moderate, but looong standing) annoyance the rework fixes for me is the premature playlist position advance
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20:48:27amiconnRegarding binsize, I wonder (a) why this rework adds almost 2KB to the swcodec engine and (b) what caused the slight hwcodec binsize reduction
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20:51:47jhMikeSa) it adds a good code-dense number of lines to playback.c I suppose, with more states becuase it's still nessary to deal with playlist strangeness among other things. b) for hwcodec, perhaps some slight consolidation (thing like wipe_mp3entry with one param instead of memset)
20:52:42jhMikeSin some cases I reduced excess static allocation based on memsize, so there was less ram use for some but still a binsize increase.
20:54:21jhMikeSoh, was hwcodec stuck with the workarounds for resume that were done by Buschel but not required any longer? that might explain things (and did I break something on that...)
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21:10:17*amiconn has no idea what workarounds jhMikeS is talking about
21:12:35pixelmaI didn't test on hwcodec despite of seeing if it builds as I thought hwcodec wasn't touched at all
21:12:39jhMikeSthings like playlists can't peek ahead at a directory transition, so that has to be handled somewhat separately from a regular transition
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21:13:04jhMikeSafact, it was touched. I'm trying to find my charger just to give it a quick check
21:13:09jhMikeS*wasn't
21:13:47pixelmawell, there was this crash bug on auto-change directory on hwcodec...
21:14:18*amiconn doesn't use many of those newfangled playback features, so can't tell
21:14:32jhMikeSplaylist + faulty track handling = horrible and twisted
21:14:59amiconnI don't even skip very often
21:15:15jhMikeSplaylist just try to be too smart where they should be dumb and they're very dumb where they should provide simple valuable info
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21:17:57pixelmaI'll try the build I already made on my Ondio... now to remember where I put it
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21:27:25*jhMikeS found the adapter
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21:34:17jhMikeSresume seems to be okay
21:35:26pixelmaskipping/searching (within one playlist) too for me, going to test auto-change directory too
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21:38:51pixelmahmm, just skipping forward from the last track of the old playlist works (can't remember if it did before), just letting it play across the border still crashes
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21:39:44jhMikeSthere are still hwcodec bugs like that?
21:40:20pixelmawell introduced later
21:41:02pixelmahttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11355
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21:48:34jhMikeSblam, it sure does crash
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21:52:06jhMikeSclicking numbers in the Rev. column while browsing SVN seems to be really subject to just getting no response
21:53:39jhMikeSseem to be the case with directories, not files
21:54:49jhMikeSI don't know the manual says anything, but swcodec isn't required to reboot for enabling/disabling cuesheet support
21:54:56jhMikeSnot any longer anyway
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21:58:59pixelmayes, auto-change directories - just going from playlist entry to the next was and is working, otherwise the complaint would have been louder. I don't follow your cuesheet thought, it was made this way because it took noticable amount of additional RAM on out hwcodec players at least
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22:04:57jhMikeSpixelma: it's allocated based on use, but dynamically now
22:05:01denisesballhey all, on my sansa clip+ whenever i have to copy music it boots into the stock firmware and has to refresh media which seems to take forever because i have a lot of files in m4a or flac that it doesnt know what to do with. any way to get around that?
22:05:45jhMikeSpixelma: it just "restarts" playback (which now just clears the handles, renints the buffer and resumes)
22:08:22pixelmathere's no MoB on hwcodec so if that is needed to do it this way...
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22:17:32jhMikeSparsing a cuesheet in audio_current_track is quite bizarre (took it out of swcodec)
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22:33:14lovasoaHi
22:34:16lovasoaI just posted a new patch, and, as advised on flyspray, I come on IRC to discuss about it and increase its chances to be accepted
22:34:52lovasoaThis is a small corrective patch for ipod accessory protocol : http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12085
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22:40:35wodzWhen I add defines to include code commented as "Use the generic ARMv4/v5/v6 wait for IRQ" rockchip crashes with undefined instruction.
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22:41:43wodzfirmware/target/arm/thread-arm.c
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22:42:17wodzso this is not so generic as arm7ej-s IS ARMv5 core
22:46:17jhMikeSthe "generic" WFI is an ARM coprocessor thing
22:47:35wodzCONFIG_CPU == AS3525 suggests that this is used also on single cores
22:47:54jhMikeSportal player doesn't have the coprocessor and mcr/mrc don't work
22:48:27jhMikeSthat's not the same a multiple arm cpu cores
22:48:42wodzahh, ok - I am still new to arm
22:49:03jhMikeSmaybe it doesn't use mcr or mrc for anything?
22:49:46wodzok what this function is supposed to do?
22:55:53jhMikeSwhich function? core_sleep stops the core clock and it starts execution again when an interrupt is asserted
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23:07:33CIA-87New commit by 03Buschel (r29794): Remove unneeded update of ci->id3->frequency in aac and raac codec.
23:11:09CIA-87r29794 build result: All green
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23:50:27lovasoasomeone to review my new patch ( http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12085 ) ?
23:51:02saratogalovasoa: you don't need to keep asking
23:51:36AlexPlovasoa: I love the enthusiasm, but things aren't always immediate around here :)
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