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#rockbox log for 2011-06-07

00:00:46CIA-58New commit by 03zagor (r29977): Add build dependency to zip
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00:46:26sideralgevaerts: Thanks for responding. Yes, it seems like freqmod is the original author. I'll attempt to verify with him.
00:47:32sideralLooks like storebror-daniel again has problems building the simulator
00:48:54CIA-58New commit by 03sideral (r29978): FS #12132 patch 2: add_uniqbuf: Fix confusing indentation in if condition
00:48:55bluebrother-bothttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12132 3tagnavi: Support "basename" in formats and conditions; replace <Untagged> in track views (patches, new)
00:48:59CIA-58New commit by 03sideral (r29979): FS #12132 patch 3: Rename read_numeric_tag to find_tag, as it is indeed ...
00:49:00bluebrother-bothttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12132 3tagnavi: Support "basename" in formats and conditions; replace <Untagged> in track views (patches, new)
00:49:03CIA-58New commit by 03sideral (r29980): FS #12132 patch 4: Added a comment for the tagcache_search.type field.
00:49:04DBUGEnqueued KICK bluebrother-bot
00:49:04bluebrother-bothttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12132 3tagnavi: Support "basename" in formats and conditions; replace <Untagged> in track views (patches, new)
00:49:11CIA-58New commit by 03sideral (r29981): FS #12132 patch 5: check_clauses: Optimizations. ...
00:49:12bluebrother-bothttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12132 3tagnavi: Support "basename" in formats and conditions; replace <Untagged> in track views (patches, new)
00:53:51CIA-58r29978 build result: 4 errors, 8 warnings (sideral committed)
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00:55:27sideralInteresting, more unused-but-set variables. Not by me, alas ;)
00:57:02sideralAnd storebror-daniel causing more problems
00:57:58CIA-58r29981 build result: 8 errors, 0 warnings (sideral committed)
00:58:38sideralsame thing
00:59:29sideralZagor: http://build.rockbox.org/dev.cgi doesn't report binsize diffs any more
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01:03:33CIA-58New commit by 03sideral (r29982): FS #12107: Remove track-number guessing code.
01:03:34bluebrother-bothttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12107 3Remove track-number generation heuristic from database (patches, new)
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01:07:40CIA-58r29982 build result: 4 errors, 0 warnings (sideral committed)
01:08:05sideralstorebror-daniel strikes again
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01:36:19JdGordonjhMikeS: \o/ coooool!
01:36:19jhMikeSPCM mixer is ready for an actual task: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12150
01:36:31jhMikeSheh, you got there already :)
01:37:47JdGordononly read the description
01:37:50JdGordonvery cool indeed
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01:44:15jhMikeSneedless features! :)
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02:27:11gartrali have a small bug, sansa e250 r29969 from site: system will report "too low to boot" battery status at aound %5-%6 left.. tht's about 30 minutes of music i'm out..
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03:12:11JdGordonTorne: as annoying as it could be, I tihnk we should require reviews before anything can be pushed
03:12:32JdGordoneven if it is only 1 other commiter reviewing
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03:21:19JdGordonsideral: n1s: AlexP: amiconn: per dir config I tihnk only makes sense in a "dirplay" playlist. it would be insane to do in a regular playlist because of the problem with needing to undo changes between track changes. Also how would it make sense for DB users?
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04:14:03[Saint]Is it known that there aren't voicefiles being built?
04:14:27[Saint]I thought it was RBUtil being an ass...but it seems they're not actually there.
04:16:01CtcpIgnored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood
04:16:01*[Saint] wonders who's domain that is...or who to bug.
04:18:14[Saint]trying to use RBUtil to download a voicefile results in a 404, and, interestingly on My N2Gs trying to build a voicefile results in the Nano disconnecting halfway through the decoding and freezing in some weird state where it won't even respond to the HW poweroff (long play).
04:23:27JdGordonrbutil is bluebrother mostly
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04:27:19[Saint]Yeah, that much I know...it's the build system that's my immediate concern.
04:27:31[Saint]Though I suspect that might be related to the recent changes.
04:27:55[Saint]Just wasn't sure if it's a known thing or not.
04:27:56JdGordonthe buildsystem builds voices?
04:28:19[Saint]Yeah. It....*should* do.
04:28:50[Saint]There should be voice dailies available.
04:29:48[Saint]JdGordon: http://www.rockbox.org/dl.cgi?bin=ipodnano2g for instance.
04:30:04[Saint]"voice" == "absent".
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04:48:45jhMikeSJdGordon: Mr. Someone should test that patch eh?
04:49:45JdGordonnono
04:49:53JdGordonMr Someone is a doer, not a tester
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04:51:38jhMikeSmr. someone does verb things
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05:05:04JdGordonwhats the ram usage change with the patch?
05:05:23jhMikeSa few KB
05:05:26JdGordonand how many streams can be mixed?
05:05:57jhMikeSno limit per se but at most 3 are defined right now. if you want more, just add another channel assignment
05:06:24JdGordoncool
05:06:50jhMikeSit's about as general purpose as it could be
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05:12:30jhMikeSI was just about to mess around with metronome playing while music going as an experiment
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05:24:06jhMikeSgagibyte?
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06:07:12jhMikeSwell, it works nicely, playing metronome with music...but sounds a bit off tempo :)
06:09:09jhMikeSand that's because prerecorded bands don't obey the new click track
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06:32:28*[Saint] wonders about FS #12150 ....
06:32:29bluebrother-bothttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12150 3Fully-functional audio mixer (patches, new)
06:32:36[Saint]"fully functional"?
06:32:42[Saint]Commit the bastard then! ;)
06:32:48jhMikeSas I told Jd, just like Data
06:33:18jhMikeSif I do that so quickly, I often receive ire
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06:36:13[Saint]well...I'll chuck it at my tree and hope it doesn't bounce off any of my local changes...then I'll comment on the task after some stress testing.
06:36:45jhMikeSprobably should check android if PCM there has been so iffy (but I did notice r29963)
06:38:10[Saint]until that commit I waas running the V2 of the patch that commit related too...prior to that commit playback with clean svn was a nightmare.
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06:38:49[Saint]locking up/stopping/freezing the UI on heavy seeking and/or track skip.
06:39:01[Saint]But current svn is fine for my handset now though.
06:40:55[Saint]Oh...whoops, it was r29961 I was thinking about.
06:41:26[Saint]I didn't notice a difference myself with r29963
06:43:30jhMikeSheck of a latency on that (32k)
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06:47:26[Saint]JdGordon: Have you noticed that "Current Playlist Screen" and "Pitchscreen" don't display the correct values for %cs?
06:47:47[Saint](all the other conditions do, though)
06:48:08JdGordonno?
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06:48:44[Saint]current playlist displays the main menu case, pitchscreen gets nothing.
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06:48:57JdGordonfile a bug, or better yet add the 2 lines that are needed :)
06:49:16JdGordonpush_current_Activity(ACTIVITY_PITCHSCREEN); and pop_current_activity(); in pitchscreen.c somewhere
06:49:38*[Saint] feels like digging through his logs ;)
06:49:50[Saint]I *distinctly* remember you saying you tested thing :P
06:49:58JdGordonyeah, i remember adding it
06:50:02[Saint]*s/thing/this/
06:50:13JdGordonmust have got lost in the git-svn-git-shenanigans here
06:50:23JdGordonit is seriously 4 lines of code to add :)
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06:52:02JdGordonfile a bug or a patch :) I'm AFK till thursday evening (or will be after 4pm here)
06:52:57[Saint]Ok, will do. I'll at least attempt the latter. I'll see if I can't poke it into life in my tree.
06:53:31JdGordonroot_menu.c is where the playlist viewer part goes
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09:28:37n1sany comments on moving sscanf to the pluginlib and committing FS #12144 ?
09:28:37bluebrother-bothttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12144 3Use -fPIC -fvisibility=hidden for 32 bit x86 builds too to fix link errors. (patches, new)
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10:10:08n1shmm, this can probably be fixed without moving sscanf.c if i can get some help with makefile voodoo
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10:15:25GodEaterB4gder: what's the plan for the git transfer? Torne seems to be working on a plan, but is server access still going to be you scandic fellows only? So you want some sort of documented process to follow, or what?
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10:17:24B4gdergood question, I figure we need to make sure that committers can push to the repo, as then we can just make a fresh svn2git conversion and go live
10:18:36GodEaterI think it would be nice if we could get the gerrit install done at the same time
10:18:59B4gdertrue
10:19:00GodEaterthen we can test to see if commiters can push directly through that
10:19:18GodEaterand patch authors can push to the code review queue on it
10:19:37GodEater(long time patch authors, I think we agree that hit-n-run patchers still just submit via email?)
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10:27:47n1sah, fixed the sscanf problem by adding it to the plugins' SOURCES
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10:30:53sideralB4gder: please don't create a new svn2git conversion, this will break all repos cloned from the existing git repo
10:31:34B4gderbut the current one doesn't have correct authors, does it?
10:32:10kugelsideral: it's better since (assuming it's doing fast-import) handling names better
10:32:23sideralI don't think that's a big deal. It has unique <username@hash> authors
10:32:36B4gderI think we should do it right
10:32:53kugelthe converson will make that "Real Name <real@email.com>" though
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10:33:23kugelwhich is way nicer
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10:33:38B4gderindeed
10:33:44B4gderand what I consider to be "right"
10:35:22sideralhmm... perhaps we can provide a way to rewrite (filter-branch) existing git repos to conform to the new standand so that people don't have to port over their branches manually
10:35:56bluebrothershouldn't that be possible by exporting them as patches and reimporting them again?
10:36:10B4gdersideral: is that really such a big problem and if so why?
10:36:26sideralI don't know what your git repos look like, but I have 30+ feature branches
10:36:37kugelbluebrother: git format-patch/am should work fine
10:37:49sideralkugel: I'd prefer an automated process. If this is not a problem for you guys, I can perhaps roll my own though.
10:38:22kugelit should be doable in a script. please upload it somewhere if you make one :)
10:40:39sideralAnyway, I think I'd prefer compatibility with existing git repos people already host publicly on github & friends over a clean start.
10:41:14sideralBut I don't want to block anyone doing the hard part of the switching work
10:41:24sideralSo consider it moot
10:41:39*bluebrother definitely prefers a clean start
10:42:10kugelgit branch returns 45 lines for me, so it'll be a slight PITA for me too :) I still prefer a proper conversion
10:43:31bluebrotherif using git format-patch and git am works, what's the problem? You just need to recreate the branches in the new repository and git am the correct patches on it
10:43:46bluebrother(never tried if git am checked for the repo by some hashes or so)
10:43:55sideralIt's no so simple, because t
10:44:08sideraleach branch wants to be applied at a certain staring point
10:44:28sideraljust branching freshly from HEAD won't cut it
10:44:57sideralI think I'll look into a script doing a "git filter-branch" once the repo structure is known
10:45:07kugelit's not a necessity, though
10:45:10bluebrotherthat raises the question if we will keep the svn revision info in the commit messages. If so finding the correct starting point shouldn't be that hard.
10:45:38bluebrotherand it might be a good reason to rebase all your branches :)
10:45:40kugelbluebrother: I don't think we want that :)
10:45:54sideralYou're assuming a largely tree-ish branching structure. But there are merges as well ;)
10:46:11[Saint]all your rebase are belong to git
10:46:57[Saint]whoopsie. lets pretend that was in *-community. :/
10:47:12bluebrotherif old branches are already merged then there is no real need to move them to the new repository :)
10:47:18*kugel will probably just convert the 3-4 branches that actually matter right now, not all the legacy ones that I don't work on anymore
10:47:22sideralbluebrother: To your point: I think we need to preserve the SVN rev numbers for historical reference, if only as git tags
10:47:42kugeland leave the old clone on disk, of course
10:48:21bluebrothersame here
10:50:36sideralIf I have to cut a new repo, we might as well switch to Mercurial!!1!
10:50:39*sideral ducks
10:51:01B4gderwe had a vote...
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10:54:56kugel"I think we need to preserve the SVN rev numbers for historical reference, if only as git tags
10:55:06kugel"^ I think that's a good point
10:55:07bluebrotherwe didn't vote on that!
10:55:32kugelbut not tags, please :)
10:56:02B4gderif not tags, how?
10:56:39bluebrotherin the commit message as git-svn does?
10:56:57bluebrotherhaving 30k tags would be really annoying
10:57:28kugelor some external tool
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11:02:13kugelperhaps export the svn<->git mapping to some file and use an external tool for the historical reference
11:06:33kugelbtw, 'git log −−pretty=oneline | wc -l' might be sufficient to get an increasing linear version number for current builds
11:07:06sideralsounds pretty expensive
11:07:20B4gderbut slightly annoying to convert back to an exact revision
11:09:28kugelI'm not talking about svn revs for historical reference now. for the future, didn't we want to have an increasing number for the builds (to say "ah the build is about X old"). we append the exact revision to that number like we do now
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11:09:37sideralB4gder: Did you notice that storebror-daniel had issues again last night?
11:09:53B4gderstill the 32bit sim crap, was it
11:09:55B4gder?
11:10:01sideralright
11:10:25kugel(yes, it's not sufficient to get the exact revision alone, so not usable for historical svn rev reference)
11:11:19n1sB4gder: i made a patch to fix that in FS #12144
11:11:20bluebrother-bothttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12144 3Use -fPIC -fvisibility=hidden for 32 bit x86 builds too to fix link errors. (patches, new)
11:11:36B4gderkugel: right, but I'm thinking when user say "I'm running rev N" and you want to run exactly that to test it, or just diff against that compared to HEAD
11:12:24kugelwe want that for pre-git-conversion revisions yes. but also for post-git-revisions?
11:12:38kugelpost-git-conversion revisions
11:12:48kugelwe can ask for the hash after the conversion
11:12:54B4gderwell, for pre-git we want the exact svn rev and not an approximation methinks
11:13:03GodEaterindeed
11:13:35kugelwell, that's what I said
11:13:52B4gderit was? then what would wc -l before?
11:13:52kugelbut we don't need to maintain that historical mapping for the future
11:14:02B4gder"be for" even
11:14:17kugelfor the post-conversion era
11:14:18Tornere hosting git.. gerrit is itself a git host
11:14:51Torneso if we are going to use that we don't need a git host set up
11:14:56Tornewell possibly a read only anonymous one
11:15:50GodEaterdoes using gerrit as the host make the svn import harder?
11:15:55Tornebut gerrit handles authenticated git over ssh and also handles both anonymous and authenticated access over http
11:16:03kugelB4gder: after the conversion we only need an approximation, don't we?
11:16:06Tornenope, gerrit just uses standard git repos
11:16:15GodEatercool
11:16:17Torneyou would convert the repo first
11:16:24Torneand then just fire up gerrit on top of the converted history
11:16:57B4gderkugel: that's being debated, I vote for using "git describe −−tags" output in general
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11:17:09TorneB4gder: yes, describe output is way better than counting commits
11:17:24kugelI don't want a tag for each commit
11:17:32Torneyou don't have to make a tag for each commit.
11:17:43B4gderkugel: did you try the command?
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11:18:58TorneB4gder: if you can get me a copy of the svn repo i can experiment with conversion options
11:19:25kugelB4gder: you mean this for the post-conversion era?
11:19:30B4gderyes
11:20:07kugelwill that work for master? we tag from the 3.X branch
11:21:06B4gderTorne: making a tarball...
11:21:11Tornekugel: you tag the branch point
11:21:46Tornekugel: the only slightly confusing result will be that 3.8+foo is not beween 3.8 and 3.8.1
11:22:00Torneor similar.
11:22:12TorneIt can be worked out, anyway
11:22:32kugeldo we want references to the last release in master?
11:22:43Tornekugel: the tag needn't literally be "3.8"
11:22:59kugelsure
11:22:59Tornewe could always have codenames :)
11:23:13Torneledpig+535
11:23:14Torne:)
11:24:15TorneB4gder: cheers. I will have a fiddle with it this evening.
11:24:35GodEaterthat sounds wrong
11:24:50GodEaterdon't intefere with it in an unnatural way ;)
11:24:59TorneB4gder: in terms of hosting the post-conversion git repo.. gerrit is java but has no special dependencies, and will want to listen on two ports, one for http and one for ssh+git
11:25:08Torneideally the http one would be on port 80
11:25:13Torneto preserve access for firewalled folks
11:25:24kugelisn't git describe essentially commit counting with nicer output?
11:25:33gevaertsTorne: can it handle reverse proxying?
11:25:35Tornegevaerts: yes
11:25:41Tornefor http.
11:25:44B4gderkugel: basically, yes
11:25:45Tornethe ssh+git port needs to be real
11:25:59Tornekugel: nicer output and easier to reverse map
11:26:21kugelwe could tag the very first commit and almost continue as before then :)
11:26:35B4gderkugel: it counts since the last tag
11:26:52Torneright, but his point is we needn't actually make any more tags on master :)
11:26:59B4gderright
11:27:00Tornewe could tag some version as "git" or something
11:27:08Torneand then the versions would just be git+1 git+2 etc
11:27:14kugelthe last reachable one, which means we need to make tags from master (somehow) for it to be useful
11:29:04Torneare people generally happt with the gerrit idea, btw?
11:29:10Tornei realise only a few people actually played witht he demo i had up
11:29:18Tornei can/will put that back up if desired
11:29:40Torneif nothing else it does have a nice interface for adding ssh keys and so on which just works fine for normal git pull/push :)
11:30:16GodEaterAs one of those who did play with the demo, I'd be keen to see us use it "properly" :)
11:30:33TorneGodEater: Well sure
11:30:45TorneI just mean, we don't have to require people post patches there
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11:30:57Torneand we certainly don't have to require that committers get stuff reviewed
11:31:02Tornewe can change *policy* any time
11:31:16Tornethe tool has a moderate amount of innate value anyway
11:31:50Torneand we have to use something to host it, since i doubt B4gder wants to give us all ssh accounts
11:32:15B4gderright, it would be convenient to have something that helps us take care of the auth part
11:33:14Torneyah. the "flow" for that with gerrit is you sign in with an openid from anywhere you feel like (e.g. google/yahoo/whatever)
11:33:21Tornethen you set your real name and username
11:33:27Tornepaste in an ssh key
11:33:29Torneand done
11:33:37Torneyou can also have it generate you a password to push over authenticated http
11:33:47GodEateroooh
11:33:50GodEateropen ID?
11:33:51Torne(you can't choose/change it, you have to go with the generated gibberish, but you just cache it locally)
11:33:54TorneYah
11:33:57GodEateramiconn will bust a blood vessel
11:34:04GodEater:D
11:34:15TorneYou can auth against something esle if you want
11:34:21GodEaterphew :)
11:34:23Tornebut openid is the only really sensible option for non-coporate deployments
11:34:42Tornebasically all the other methods require that accounts be created somewhere else first
11:34:45GodEaterI agree
11:34:54Tornewhich is a barrier to noncommitters signing up to upload patches.
11:34:57GodEaterI'm just not sure our paranoid German friends will agree
11:35:19Torneheh
11:35:51GodEaterdid you tell amiconn his retinas were scanned as he entered the google office, and are now held in the cloud? :)
11:35:58TorneOh, the othe rpart of the flow i didn't mentoin there is of course a gerrit admin would have to add committers to a committer group
11:36:04Tornesince the idea is that anyone can register
11:36:13Tornebut only committers have certain permissions ;)
11:36:15Tornebut that's easy.
11:37:20Tornethat's a lot less effort than actually creating accounts and setting passwords (as we do now for svn) and it's a *lot* less than having to update authorized_keys on someone else's behalf :)
11:38:10GodEateryeah. Easier == win
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11:43:46kugelpTorne: gerrit seems nice indeed. I don't see a reason to not try it, provided we can undo the gerrit stuff later
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11:45:09Torneyup, it writes teh repo to disk exactly as git does
11:45:35Tornedropping gerrit *might* abandon, hm, comments on code reviews and stuff. but i think even the patches in code reviews are in the repo
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11:45:53Torneand gerrit is in the process of moving basically all its metadata into the git repo anyway
11:47:42GodEaterDo we have a 540x960 theme for RaaA yet?
11:47:47*GodEater pokes [Saint]
11:48:01[Saint]Nope.
11:48:07GodEatermake it so
11:48:15[Saint](also: My god that's a weird resolution)
11:48:30B4gderqHD, what lots of things come with now...
11:49:08B4gderwhere things are Android phones =)
11:50:03[Saint]GodEater: Firstly I need to a: Get a result that everyone is happy with... (not anywhere near as easy as I'd thought, and I thought it'd be a royal PITA ;)), and b: do the 340X480 port
11:50:27[Saint]then, iirc (mental ToDo list) I need to do 180X600
11:50:35[Saint]*1280X600
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11:51:26*[Saint] apparently needs an "RaaA theme wishlist" page ;D
11:54:02GodEater[Saint]: a) isn't ever going to happen
11:54:03GodEater:)
11:54:16[Saint]I guesse what I should *really* be doing in my spare time is creating a "mega resolution - master .svg" image package for cabbie, so future ports don't require me up-sizing/recreating from scratch every time.
11:54:27GodEatergood plan
11:54:45GodEater1920x1280 seems a good starting place
11:54:48GodEater:D
11:55:17[Saint]my end goal is to replace all svn cabbie images, if you look at the /wps/cabbiev2/ folder...the colouration is all over the place.
11:55:29[Saint]I'm colourblind, and I can see it, so it must be pretty bad.
11:55:31kugelpyea, one which allows for a 1920*1080 cabbie at least :-)
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11:56:53[Saint]kugelp: fullscreen desktop SDL apps? ;)
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11:57:25kugelpthough there's a "mega resolution master. psd" on the wiki
11:57:26GodEaterdesktop schmektop - we want a tablet version!
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11:58:36[Saint]kugelp: that's not exactly "mega resolution" iirc.
11:58:49[Saint]I think the biggest images are "beast-sized".
11:59:31[Saint](aslo, bleach!! .psd ;))
11:59:35[Saint]*also
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12:01:20GodEateris headphone remote support for RaaA on the todo list somewhere too?
12:01:51kugelphave you looked at it?
12:02:03GodEaternot recently :)
12:02:13[Saint]kugelp: Yeah, long time ago.
12:02:13GodEaterI also don't have any headphones with a remote currently
12:02:16[Saint]oh, oops.
12:02:37kugelpits definitely much bigger than beast sized
12:03:32[Saint]Ah, Hmmm. Perhaps I'm thinking of another one then. I'm reasonable sure the one I have is built around 230X320-ish images.
12:04:47[Saint]I do have original source images from ZincAlloy sitting on my disk *somewhere*, I know that much.
12:04:57[Saint](in .psd format)
12:07:35kugelpI think I scaled down by 1/2 or so for the 480*800 cabbie
12:10:14[Saint]Are you able to point me in the direction of the pack you're talking about? I'd like to check it out on the offchance it is indeed different from the one I have.
12:24:07[Saint]sideral: You about?
12:24:19*[Saint] wishes to talk Database with you.
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12:33:15kugelp[Saint]: its on the wiki. page DefaultWPS or so
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13:22:38sideralSaint: I'm back
13:23:59sideralLet's talk Database!
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13:29:02[Saint]I'm wondering for FS #12132 ...it's just 006 and 007 needed now, correct? the rest is commited.
13:29:03bluebrother-bothttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12132 3tagnavi: Support "basename" in formats and conditions; replace <Untagged> in track views (patches, new)
13:29:44sideralright
13:30:12[Saint]Also, I'm wondering how hard it'd be for me to strip <all tracks>, <untagged> & co out of the db.
13:30:26[Saint]does that stuff "have" to live in there to any extent?
13:30:42sideralshould be fairly easy, but I haven't looked into it yet
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13:31:21[Saint]Ah ;) The Database scares me, the brief look I've had at it. I was hoping you'd have a clue, no worries :D
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13:32:37sideralI think I saw some code that added these two special entries (and increased the entry count by 2) in tagtree.c
13:33:58[Saint]thanks, my "if all else fails" plan was to just grep for "<Untagged>" and hope.
13:34:03[Saint];)
13:34:16sideralTry this (untested): http://pastebin.com/75TfNGGP
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13:40:33sideralBTW Saint, I'd appreciate highly if you'd test the FS #12132 <http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12132> patches
13:40:34bluebrother-bothttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12132 3tagnavi: Support "basename" in formats and conditions; replace <Untagged> in track views (patches, new)
13:41:16sideralMake sure you use the new version of 0006 posted in a later comment
13:52:17*n1s threatens to commit FS #12144 if noone opposes in the near future
13:52:18bluebrother-bothttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12144 3Use -fPIC -fvisibility=hidden for 32 bit x86 builds too to fix link errors. (patches, new)
13:53:42B4gdern1s: go ahead, it makes things better
13:54:06n1sok
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13:56:28CIA-58New commit by 03nls (r29983): FS #12144, Use -fPIC -fvisibility=hidden only for plugins on sim and app builds and enable it for 32 bit too. Fixes linking errors on simbuilds.
13:56:28bluebrother-bothttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12144 3Use -fPIC -fvisibility=hidden for 32 bit x86 builds too to fix link errors. (patches, new)
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14:01:02[Saint]sideral: I assume to see the full effect (or any effect at all) of 12132 I'll need to remove "%format "fmt_title" "%s - %02d:%02d" filename Lm Ls ? title == "<Untagged>"" from my tagnavi_custom?
14:01:33sideralyep. patch 0007 makes that redundant
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14:14:08*[Saint] rediscovers the (now out of sync) patch at FS #11679 and wonders why it was never committed.
14:14:09bluebrother-bothttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11679 3Remember last postion in the Settings menu. (patches, new)
14:14:46[Saint]I _think_ I have that synced up in a tree somewhere. It's an awesome addition.
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14:15:07[Saint]A bit "iPod-ish", but...I like it.
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14:18:13GodEatermc2739: banned
14:25:42sideralSaint: I gave that experimental patch (http://pastebin.com/75TfNGGP) a quick test run in a sim, and it seems to work for me
14:26:33[Saint]sideral: Oh cool, thanks. ;)
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14:56:14kugelpTorne: will developers have a space for their own remotes with gerrit? or is everyone supposed to open branches in the main repo?
14:56:57Tornethere are however many repositories we feel like configuring
14:57:08Torneit doesn't give everyone one
14:57:17Tornebut if someone wanted one they could hav eone, and be given permission to control it
14:57:42Tornethe general idea is that there's not much need to do that, though
14:57:51*Torne shrugs.
14:58:53kugelpTorne: well, I need some place to put my random stuff to :)
14:59:07Tornedo you, though?
14:59:14Tornewhat do you mean by random stuff.
14:59:40sideralkugel: Just use a private repo for this, such as github
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15:00:16kugelpsure, but I wondered if it was useful to have clones near the main repo
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15:00:41kugelpalso, there's no reference repo (to clone from) on github, so each clone takes a lot space for them
15:00:51Tornei'm questioning whether you really need a publically reachable clone or not, is my point
15:01:05Torneif you have a random thing you are working on, push it as a patch
15:01:39Torneif it's a big long lived branch you're working on with other people then it probably *should* just be a branch in the main repo :)
15:01:40kugelpso we should make branches on the main repo for WIP stuff?
15:01:43sideralTorne: it's nice for backing up semi-private stuff, and unofficial / experimental collaboration
15:02:10Tornekugelp: only if you need to work on them with other people, really
15:02:20Torneotherwise you can just push it to refs/for/master and it'll appear as a review.
15:02:28Tornethe reviews are effectively branches
15:02:47Torneexcept they're designed to be replaced instead of built on
15:03:19kugelpI want to have it publicly available to share code across PCs
15:03:39kugelpbut it's not always code necessarily meant for upstream
15:05:04kugelpplus, in the main repo every committer can push to my branches which isn't always what I want
15:05:24Tornethat's not necessarily true either :)
15:05:32Tornegerrit permissions are per ref, not per repo
15:06:11Tornebut yes, if you just are moving stuff between machines and you don't want to host that yourself then it's probably not going to cover taht case super well
15:06:50Tornewe certainly *could* make repos for individual people if they wanted them
15:07:11Tornebut not in the trivial way github does
15:07:12kugelpit would be nice if we had a mirror at github then, just so we can clone it and not waste space by pushing our repo as a whole
15:07:20TorneThat's easy, yes
15:07:28Tornegerrit will happily replicate to anywhere
15:07:43Torneso it can just update a mirror
15:08:28kugelpthat would be sufficient
15:09:21Tornei don't think many people have a real need to do things this way
15:10:25Torneif you only develop in one place, or you just have direct access to your own repos from other places, that is easier :)
15:10:57Tornecurrently with bzr i just have a "master" copy of my stuff on one machine somewhere and other machines can pull from it over ssh
15:11:46Tornei've never really wanted to push stuff to a public server that wasn't stuff i wanted other people to see/comment on/etc :)
15:12:54kugelpthat requires the master machine to be turned on, always
15:13:06Torneyes
15:13:16Tornei have numerous machines that are always turned on :)
15:13:25kugelpI don't .)
15:13:36Torneand if i didn't i'd be renting one :)
15:13:48Tornei'm not saying it's an unreasonable thing to want to do :)
15:13:52Tornejust that most people don't need to do it
15:14:00Torneso i don't see it as a big problem
15:15:09Tornebeing able to push as a change to be reviewed, or as a branch of the main repo, covers most things.
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15:27:37sideralSaint: Re FS #12132 <http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12132>: I have a new version of patch 0007 that also provides a sane default format for Database->Tracks. I'll upload it soon; here's an incremental patch (over already applied old version of 0007) for you: http://pastebin.com/HPJD9LWP
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15:29:00GodEaterurgh
15:29:04GodEaterthat's too annoying
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16:26:17kugelpjhMikeS: I would prefer to use re-use the recursion feature of mutexes instead of guarding them
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16:31:32jhMikeSkugelp: for pcm-android?
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16:46:05kugelpjhMikeS: yes; but you changed it for sdl to
16:46:06kugelptoo
16:52:47jhMikeSfor sdl it's not necessarily reentrant
16:53:52jhMikeSso, SVN is technically wrong there
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17:24:20gevaertskugelp: didn't you say you had sent an email to the mailing list?
17:24:25gevaertsOr am I misremembering
17:24:34gevaertsor just plain confused?
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17:24:53kugelpgevaerts: no, I said I'm going to :) I'm currently composing, but re-thinking things a bit
17:25:06gevaertsAh, option (b) :)
17:25:43kugelpjhMikeS: right
17:25:49kugelpI didn't see that
17:26:35jhMikeSkugelp: I didn't either the first time :) (oops)
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17:29:05jhMikeSI'll probably commit any bugfix/sync additions separately. The only real support for that patch is the one function call.
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17:31:34jhMikeSpcm.c and pcm-mixer.c might be able to be better integrated rather than just tacking a mixer on top of it all since really the audio device should get "stolen" from the mixing code
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17:40:59jhMikeSkugelp: does android allow mixing natively? I did think about being able to implement it directly on the os. I think I can with SDL.
17:41:46kugelpjhMikeS: I don't know. We use this API: http://developer.android.com/reference/android/media/AudioTrack.html
17:42:38kugelpit can certainly do it, but I don't know if it's accessible for apps (I don't think it is)
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17:50:55jhMikeSone stream per app? what about games that need mixing?
17:53:00jhMikeSwith 32k of latency I doubt I need the double buffer (possibly not on any app build)
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18:01:33kugelpgevaerts: sent
18:01:51kugelpjhMikeS: the buffer can be much bigger
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18:04:15kugelpbut one doesn't use that buffer directly
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18:07:49jhMikeSwhat is the perceived latency on the phone?
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18:13:01kugelpsome hundredth of a second perhaps
18:16:20jhMikeSinteresting
18:19:21kugelpyou see the buffer is internally used because you skip around it has virtually no latency but old audio data will play for a split second (worked-around in SVN, introducing the latency)
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18:21:43gevaertskugelp: will there also be a function to get a pointer given a handle? :)
18:21:56kugelperm, sure :)
18:22:18gevaertsIt's kind of useful :)
18:22:30kugelpdefinitely :)
18:22:49jhMikeSnoone _needs_ a pointer!
18:24:05*gevaerts will have a more detailed look later, but he has to head out to meet bluebrother rather soon
18:24:06jhMikeSpointers are like a naughty code peepshow
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18:47:44jhMikeSkugel: with the mixer, pcm is not stopped and flushed downstream, the channel is just deactivated and anything already mixed will be played
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19:08:14amiconnTorne: That's why e.g. quassel-irc tagged 0.8-pre immediately after branching the 0.8 release.
19:08:23Torneamiconn: yes
19:08:42Tornethat would make sense
19:08:44amiconnWe could do the same, so tagging 3.9-pre after branching 3.8. That way trunk builds always carry the -pre
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20:32:38jhMikeSbloody hell, where does configure expect mingw32 sdl
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20:37:21jhMikeSdoh, got it
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20:42:34jhMikeSsure as heck getting crazy warnings make w32 sim
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20:44:44jhMikeSC99 inline functions not supported; using GNU89
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20:53:07jhMikeSooohh...win32 sim made in debian :P and I actually didn't connect my speakers to my computer yet
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21:09:55YoubiHello
21:10:18YoubiI need help to install voice on my sansa clip +.
21:12:57YoubiI've read the doc but i can't find any fran├žais.voice to put in the root directory.
21:18:43[Saint]You're using RBUtility Youbi?
21:19:32YoubiNo, i do it manually. (i'm french so sorry for my english).
21:19:39YoubiOn a linux distro.
21:20:35keyb_grSeems like there's an infinite loop in the docs. "Rockbox Voice Files" says go to Extras, and that links back to you guessed it.
21:20:36YoubiAnd i've edited the config.cfg to put "on" the speak option.
21:20:46YoubiYes.
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21:21:16[Saint]keyb_gr: It's a little weird, but it *is* possible to get to the link.
21:21:29YoubiAnd somewhere its said that voice files are put in the .rockbox archive.
21:21:31[Saint]if you did, though, you'd find voicefiles aren't being built.
21:22:01[Saint]Youbi: Your only option at this point is to generate one (not download) via RBUtil
21:22:04YoubiBut i didn't find voicefiles.
21:22:18YoubiOk i'll do.
21:22:22[Saint]that's because they're not there.
21:22:31YoubiOk :)
21:22:45YoubiI'll come back
21:22:48Youbisee you.
21:23:44[Saint]keyb_gr: http://www.rockbox.org/daily.shtml , <your player> , old
21:23:51[Saint](for future reference)
21:24:12[Saint]...but, as you can see, apparently they're not being built (and haven't been for a while?)
21:25:47pixelmaeven if the daily voices would be there then there wouldn't be a French voice file. If I remember correctly only english.voice was provided
21:27:07[Saint]Oh, heh...yeah, good catch. I missed him saying that.
21:28:01TheLemonManpamaury, ping
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22:42:03bertrikI wonder if the RDA5802 keeps its register contents when powered down. We may be wasting current after pausing the radio on some clip+ players.
22:43:32bertrikI'd like to get my hands on the RDA5802 programming guide
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22:53:54bertrikI think there's something weird in our radio code: we still seem to access the tuner after putting it to sleep
22:54:31bertrikand I still don't really see a significant difference between RADIO_FREQUENCY and RADIO_SCAN_FREQUENCY
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22:58:05jhMikeSthere could be, esp if one wants to use proper scan algorithms
22:59:36bertrikI have no idea what RADIO_SCAN_FREQUENCY is *supposed* to do
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23:00:37jhMikeScheck the actual tuning for auto scanning, possibly implementing further checks than just setting the frequency
23:00:59bertrikthere are a few tuners that can do an autonomous scan to the next station
23:01:36pamauryTheLemonMan: pong
23:01:53TheLemonMani have some work for us :)
23:01:59pamauryreally ?
23:02:09TheLemonManyep, reversing bitburner.exe
23:02:24pamaurywhat is this ?
23:02:41TheLemonManit uses the BLTC protocol with an extension called PITA and it's used to read/blow fuses via usb
23:02:44jhMikeSbertrik: sure, though feedback should happen and it should be canellable
23:03:31pamauryis it available on the internet ?
23:03:36pamauryis there a linux version ?
23:06:05TheLemonManyup
23:06:17TheLemonMani can dropbox it in a few seconds :)
23:07:51CIA-58New commit by 03bertrik (r29984): rda5802: don't use the si4700-specific exceptions for putting the tuner to sleep
23:09:09pamauryok
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23:12:04CIA-58r29984 build result: All green
23:15:10pamaurywow, that's quite a fat program :(
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23:16:28pamauryok, I'll have a look at it tomorrow or on thursday and I'm quite busy until the 10/13 (I have some hard deadlines) but I'll try
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23:16:43TheLemonManno problem :)
23:16:55pamaurydid you try to sniffer the usb packets ? It might a simple protocol like bltc
23:17:05TheLemonMani'll take some usb dumps and start working on those
23:17:21pamaurywhat are the interesting fuses ?
23:17:26TheLemonManyeah, but it has pretty long and obscure packets
23:17:54TheLemonManmainly the ones that control boot flags and the ones that make up the .sb decryption key
23:18:13pamauryI guess it's HID based too ?
23:18:32TheLemonManyep, there are traces of bltc too
23:20:35pamauryok
23:21:15pamauryI'll go to bed now :) Tomorrow I'll try it on my fuze+ to see :)
23:21:38TheLemonManheh, ill go to bed too. it has been an hard day. G'nite
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