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#rockbox log for 2011-06-17

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02:15:00CIA-17New commit by 03funman (r30008): Fix 'unused-but-set-variable' warnings (doom, lua)
02:19:37CIA-17r30008 build result: All green
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05:09:50CIA-17New commit by 03jethead71 (r30009): Coldfire: Fix the modification of IMR. Interrupts must be masked at the core level at at least the level of the interrupt being masked. Not following ...
05:13:55CIA-17r30009 build result: All green
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11:10:15B4gderthe guy on stackoverflow updated his post after my ILP64 comment yesterday =)
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11:13:21sideralnice :)
11:14:27sideralSo my confusion helped better the world as a whole
11:14:32B4gderyes!
11:14:53B4gdertoday the world is one notch better than yesterday
11:15:28sideralthis is huge! so glad I could be part of this
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13:52:48sideralrx -d
13:52:55sideraloops, sorry
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17:32:49SzeraaxHello, I'm trying to do the cross-compilers doc of building rb from my own source, and during the rockboxdev.sh script, I have been waiting for over an hour on the "checking for pstat_getstatic... " step of it. This step uses the gcc-3.exe in cygwin\bin (93kb) and has been chewing up a core of mine for the entire hour or so. Do I just need to wait longer, or am I hung somewhere likely?
17:34:54[Saint]CygWin is *sloooooooooooooooow*
17:35:27[Saint]To save pain and heartache, I highly reccommend using VirtualBox and a Linux distro
17:35:49[Saint]Unless you use CygWin for something else, it's really not worth the hassle.
17:37:06[Saint]You can probably set up VirtualBox/Ubuntu, download the sources, and have a build compiled twice in the time it takes to build the toolchains in CygWin
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17:37:52[Saint](to build all toolchains, you could be looking at up to 12 hours on a slower machine)
17:38:19SzeraaxHrmmm, that's depressing based on how much time I've put into cygwin thus far, haha.
17:38:32TorneSzeraax: If it's actually stopped in configure then that's broken
17:38:44Tornebut saint is also correct that cygwin is massively, massively slow
17:39:01Torneif it was *working* it would take a couple hours
17:39:11Torneyours sounds like it's busted.
17:39:43SzeraaxAnd how can I know if it is stopped or not? It has been on this one line for almost 1:30 at this point
17:40:01Torne..well that's how you know it's stopped.
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17:40:24Torne"checking for foo" is configure running
17:40:28SzeraaxAye... So I guess I get to kill the script and delete the build dir, and either run it again or do another approach, correct.
17:40:29Szeraax?
17:40:30Torneand each of those should take maybe two seconds
17:40:31Torneif that
17:40:36Torneeven on cygwin.
17:40:49TorneYeah, kill it, delete build dir and start over
17:40:51Szeraaxk, massive death then.
17:40:52TorneIdeally on Linux.
17:41:13Tornebut if you do do it on cygwin, it shouldn't stop without printing some kind of output for more than maybe 5-10 minutes, depending on the speed of your machine
17:41:32SzeraaxMuch appreciated for your help all
17:41:34Tornethe build porcess is very noisy so it would only stop while compiling very large files like the ARM backend, and even those are not so big as to take mroe than a couple minutes.
17:41:59Tornethe whole process will take an hour or five, but it will spam output pretty much the whole time :)
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17:42:30Torne[Saint]: i managed to build all the toolchains in 12 *minutes* here :)
17:42:46Tornethat was fun.
17:43:07SzeraaxYa, that's kinda what I thought too, but I didn't want to just kill it, if it was actually doing something
17:43:15Torneright.
17:43:27TorneSo yeah, you may have to wait 5-10 minutes for it to visibly make progress on a few places.
17:43:31Tornebut not longer than that
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17:43:54Torne[Saint]: it's much quicker if you build on a hundred cores ;)
17:44:33*Buschel also just switched from cygwin to VMPlayer
17:45:05Buschelsingle CPU -> factor 3 faster. quad CPU -> factor 6 faster
17:45:15Torneyah, that sounds reasonable :)
17:45:25*Torne hugs his 16 CPUs.
17:45:33Buschelbuilding the cross compilers is faaaar more than 6x faster
17:45:40Torneipodvideo build in 42 seconds ;)
17:45:50Torne(from scratch, no ccache)
17:46:32Buschelhehe, mine takes ~1:40h now. which is quite fast compared to what my old notebook neede dunder cygwin (~21min)
17:46:51TorneYah. There are diminishing returns :)
17:46:57Torneour build process doesn't go *that* parallel
17:47:05Torneand there are some slow steps like genlang
17:47:06*Buschel still fights with samba though
17:47:13Torne(which i hope to be able to speed up sometime soon)
17:48:32Buschelbut: anyone who wants to use VMPlayer -> make sure you use v3.0.0 latest. version newer than that do not support > 4 CPUs
17:49:18Buschel(or at least newer versions do not support hyperthreading on quad cores)
17:49:37Buschelit took me a week to find out...
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22:18:26chai16what linux music manager do you recommend for rockbox? i have a large library hosted on a network server if that matters.
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22:26:36*Bagder uses bash
22:28:28*GodEater_ uses rsync
22:30:48Slasherirsync too, and custom command line utility for automated, threaded cd ripping to flac&ogg and replaygain calculation
22:32:32chai16thanks good stuff
22:32:37chai16i will look into rsync
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22:33:12*GodEater_ suspects that he won't be impressed with it as a "music manager"
22:33:19Slasheri:)
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22:33:55Slasheribut it does good the job
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22:34:57GodEater_aye
22:35:00GodEater_that it does
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23:20:30philipballewis a gui needed to install rockbox or can i install from a cli only system?
23:21:01gevaertsHave a look at the manual, and look for the "manual installation" part
23:28:30philipballewalright! jw. what is rockbox based off of? unix, linux? or what?
23:29:19gevaertsnothing :)
23:29:35philipballewhow so :)
23:29:48philipballewseemes that much cooler
23:29:48gevaertsAs the "written from scratch" on the home page is meant to state
23:30:33philipballewahh, didn't see that. if its writtin from scratch is it east to put pluggins into it?
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23:33:25froggymanphilipballew, if you know how to program
23:33:27gevaertsThere are a number of plugins that come with rockbox. Note that we really use the term "plugin" to describe the technical way they work (i.e. pluggable code), not to imply that you can get them elsewhere
23:33:40froggymanThere is a guide on writing plugins on the wiki
23:34:25philipballewoh nice froggyman would i then compile everything myself i assume. ill look at the wiki
23:34:50froggymanphilipballew, Yes you can. The wiki has a lot of useful information
23:35:42evilnick_BAll plugins are built by default, i.e. when you install RB on your player, all available (and working) plugins are already there
23:36:39philipballewoh nice. sounds good for the average user
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23:45:55pamauryTheSeven:
23:45:56pamauryping
23:49:11TheSevenpamaury: gnip
23:50:32pamauryin target/arm/s5l8702/ipo6g/mmcdefs-targer.h you have lots of define which seems to be only related to mmc and not target specific, am I wrong ?
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23:55:12TheSevenpamaury: yeah, that's true
23:55:36TheSeventhis file was just copy&pasted from emcore
23:55:48pamauryshouldn't we move the generic one to export/mmc.h ?
23:56:04TheSevenmight make sense
23:56:10pamauryespecially since I will need them for the fuze+ and it would be stupid to duplicate
23:56:23TheSeveni wonder where the other drivers get them from
23:57:12TheSeveni'm also strongly in favor of making BIT(x) and BITRANGE(x, y) globally available
23:57:35pamaurythe other one is the ondio and it's spi based so it's probably a bit different
23:57:49TheSevenhm, no other mmc devices?
23:57:57pamaurydon't think so
23:58:07gevaertsno
23:58:07TheSevenwhat about all those sansas with emmcs?
23:58:20TheSevenand all those microsd cards?
23:58:22pamauryBIT and BIRANGE is another matter, but why not; perhaps that needs some discussion
23:58:34pamaurymicrosd is not mmc
23:58:59pamauryit uses the standard sd defines

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