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#rockbox log for 2011-06-27

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00:19:17godzirraHey guys. How do you tell which version of ipod you have?
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00:20:11godzirraI have either a 5th gen or an ipod classic.
00:20:14godzirraJust not sure which.
00:20:28LambdaCalculus37Is the front of the iPod made of plastic or metal?
00:21:12godzirraLooks like plastic.. trying to get the case off, and its not co-operating.
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00:22:01godzirraActually looks like metal.
00:23:22LambdaCalculus37Silver or black?
00:23:28godzirraSilver
00:23:33LambdaCalculus37iPod Classic.
00:23:46LambdaCalculus37And the case is going to be very hard to open on that model.
00:23:56godzirrano no... I meant my plastic case around it.
00:24:01godzirraI wasn't trying to open the ipod itself.
00:24:08godzirraSo I can't install rockbox on a classic, can I? :/
00:24:33LambdaCalculus37You can; there is a build for it.
00:24:43n1syes you can but it's not a mature port
00:24:44LambdaCalculus37But the install process is pretty elaborate.
00:24:47godzirraOh.. I didn't see one...
00:25:01godzirran1s: if I have issues, I can go back to the standard ipod firmware though, right?
00:25:01LambdaCalculus37That's because it's still very work in progress.
00:25:10LambdaCalculus37You can restore the iPod, yes.
00:25:30godzirraAwesome. I'm adventurous, and I loved the hell out of rockbox on my old ipod. Where do I read up on how to do it?
00:25:30n1sprobably
00:25:58LambdaCalculus37godzirra: Linux4nano's site has instructions.
00:26:05nefertyoh god no, i opened mine, i'm not closing it back ever again D:
00:26:10n1shttp://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IpodClassicPort
00:26:33LambdaCalculus37Wait, sorry... freemyipod!
00:26:43nefertygodzirra, rockbox works with freemyipod/umcore
00:26:54godzirraWhat is freemyipod/umcore?
00:26:57nefertybut battery time goes from 25hrs -> 8hrs
00:27:01godzirraWhoa.
00:27:05godzirraThat's a pretty drastic drop.
00:27:06nefertyyeah...
00:27:15godzirrahow come the drop is so steep?
00:27:24n1sand one of the reason it's not considered mature
00:27:28nefertyno clue
00:27:41godzirraWell crud. I could handle a lot of immature stuff, but not a 66% drop in battery life. :/
00:27:43n1sbecause we don't know all the secrets of the hardware
00:27:46godzirraHeh.
00:27:55godzirraIs there anything I can do to help it, and is it still in progress?
00:27:58godzirraOr has it stalled?
00:28:29nefertyyou can enable clock scaling/undervolting, which makes some devices unstable and gives you about 1hr worth of battery life
00:28:32n1sdisassemble apple code to figure out how they get better battery time
00:28:49nefertyi'm just repeating what i heard from Seven though, afaik he's sort of the port maintainer for the classic
00:29:06godzirran1s: Sadly, that's beyond my skill level. I'm just a perl/ruby guy.
00:33:16godzirraneferty: For a total of 9ish?
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00:33:41nefertygodzirra, depends on your battery but yeah
00:33:42godzirraHow do I get in touch with Seven so I can see if there's anything I can do to help? Not sure if there is anything.. but I'd like to offer, regardless.
00:34:22neferty[*seven*] is his nick, i just didn't want to ping him
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00:36:34godzirraHe's not on now, that I can see at least... I'll keep an eye out for him and ask later.
00:41:52AlexPgodzirra: He is on
00:42:02AlexPIt is the digit 7 in square brackets
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00:44:19godzirraOh. I was looking for an actual [seven]
00:44:22godzirralong day =p
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02:22:08JoshuaChangthe spc playback in cowon d2 has artifacts, but when i export to file into wav(using test_codec) and playback in pc, it's ok, what's wrong?
02:22:34JoshuaChangresample stuff?
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02:27:28godzirraI wish I had a good flac player. :/
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02:56:14saratogaJoshuaChang: probably some bug with audio playback or DSP on the D2
02:56:44saratogai would try the DSP option in testcodec as well to make sure its not that code
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02:57:52JoshuaChangi have tried to disable asm opt in dsp's resample code, but it doesn't help
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03:04:01saratogais the DSP output in test_codec correct?
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03:21:29JoshuaChangno, i didn't use dsp in test_codec, will try it soon
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03:39:55JoshuaChanghave exported the spc into wav using dsp, well the file was also 32khz but lengthened...i modified the wav's head to make it likes a 44khz file, then playback in d2, the artifacts is still there
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03:54:49saratogaso the problem is in the dsp code then
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04:12:06belakIs there any chancefor an iPod Classic 7g version?
04:12:45saratogabelak: theres only 6 ipod 'classic' generations, but yes, we have builds for all of them
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04:15:07belakI heard that the newer Classic was different from the 6g and that there weren't builds for them
04:15:20belakYay, inconsistancy.
04:16:32saratogaprobably just someone confused about ipod versions
04:16:33belakSomething about a driver for the storage...
04:16:43belakHeh, ok.
04:17:07belakWhat's left before the 6g port is usable?
04:17:23belakI understand it mostly works now... but what's left?
04:17:48saratogano idea, check the wiki
04:19:21belakHm, since the install completely replaces the iPod firmware, if the iPod is bricked, is there any way to fix it?
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04:19:55saratogai think so
04:20:12saratogaif something can't be undone, the wiki will probably say so
04:32:20saratogaTheSeven: perhaps after 3.9 would be a good time to promote the ipod classic build to unstable? looking at the wiki it seems about ready
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06:22:53godzirrabelak: 6g is ipod classic? i.e. the 80gb? or the 6g is a newer one?
06:24:10belakI thought there were 2 generations of the new classic, though wikipedia lists it as 6th gen with an original, first and second revisions.
06:24:30belakI have the 160 GB classic. The 2nd revision, according to wikipedia
06:24:32JdGordonnew classic is an oxymoron
06:24:45godzirraAh. Okay. I just got back into looking into rockbox; I used to have an iRiver H20 with rockbox and it was fan-freakin' tastic.
06:24:59godzirrabut I don't think I can live with the drop from 25 hours to 8 hours for battery life.
06:25:04godzirraJdGordon: welcome to Apple. ;p
06:25:06belakI wish they could have just named them all the same.
06:25:49godzirrabelak: Eh. -We- would still have to differentiate between the versions, so I think it'd be just as difficult.
06:26:26belakHeh, just use gens. As of right now, the iPod classic, iPod color and plain iPod all use the same Gen numbering
06:26:52godzirraOh. You're right, that's dumb.
06:28:17godzirraIs there a good media manager for those of us that can't (or who can't lose the battery life) install rockbox?
06:28:32godzirraI really miss the drag and drop support of rockbox on my device.
06:28:36belakFor what mp3 player?
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06:42:47godzirraI have an ipod classic now. I used to have (a long time ago) an iRiver H20.
06:42:49godzirraRockbox on it was fantastic.
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06:50:17godzirrabelak: any suggestions?
06:50:28belakWhat gen?
06:51:06godzirraThe 80gb classic... i'm not sure what gen that is? Its the silver one that has the metal front?
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06:55:44belakWell, it's an unstable port, and it overwrites the firmware, but I think it works
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07:02:56godzirraIt does, but I've been told (and the wiki says that power management doesn't work) that it drops battery life from 25 hours to 8ish.
07:02:59godzirraThat's a bit low for me. :/
07:06:21belakYeah
07:06:29belakThere aren't really any alternatives
07:06:35belakAs far as I know at least
07:06:58godzirraAh w ell. I messaged [7] so hopefully he'll get back to me. I'm just hoping its still in development and hasn't staslled.
07:07:01godzirra*Stalled.
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07:19:00d1337rthanks for rockbox, my iriver h320 is now much better thanks to it
07:19:19d1337rthe only plugin i'd really like to see is probably nethack :)
07:40:18saratogai don't know much about nethack, but i don't think its gpl compatible
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09:06:32misalignedThe mp3 player names don't line up to the depicted picture of the player http://www.rockbox.org/daily.shtml
09:07:10[Saint]in what way do you mean?
09:07:16[Saint]Looks fine to me.
09:07:19misalignedrather the DAP's are misnamed
09:07:42[Saint]example?
09:08:03misalignedops my fault, I'm dyxlexic top down this morning
09:08:03[Saint]they all look fine to me.
09:08:28misalignedplease ignore my lack of coffee
09:08:35[Saint];)
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10:32:09JdGordoncan we please just ban thai ip's?
10:32:16*JdGordon grumbles at deleting 25 spam posts
10:32:27JdGordonakismet is useless
10:33:04gevaertsNot entirely
10:33:11gevaertsIt's not as useful as we might want, but...
10:33:22scorche|shit certainly has some degree of effectiveness
10:39:24JdGordonscorche|sh: can we add a temp ban to 61.19.66.*? see how effective that is at stopping the annoying thai spam sigs?
10:39:33JdGordonit appears noone real has that ip
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10:43:54scorche|shseems a bit...strong...
10:44:06scorche|shhow do you figure that no one real has it?
10:44:29JdGordonfrom my sample users...
10:44:34JdGordonyou've got full db access though
10:44:40scorche|shoh - users
10:45:00scorche|shis there really that much spam coming from that range?
10:45:11JdGordonthose sig bans are annoying
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10:45:45scorche|shhrm?
10:51:32JdGordonthe drongos who pnly post with the spam sig
10:52:59scorche|shand how many have come from this range?
10:54:36JdGordonall
10:54:48JdGordonyou have the db access to verify...
10:59:41scorche|shdefine "all" - i have been out of the country for the last week and havent been paying attention
10:59:49scorche|sh...and still am out until tomorrow ;)
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11:25:09gevaertsscorche|sh, JdGordon: 29 users who ever connected from that range are signature-spammers (all banned. I added the missing bans), the other 5 have no signature. Of those 5, 2 are claimed to have 1 post that's not visible, so I presume akismet got them. All 5 of those also never connected after registering.
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11:51:54scorche|sh29 would be significant, yeah - you can ban the /24, but put a note in the ban on the message shown to the banned user something along the lines of if you are human and have reached this unexpectedly, email forums at rockbox
11:52:09scorche|shthere are plenty of other IPs though to connect from...
11:53:09*scorche|sh has a plant to catch tomorrow, so heads off
11:53:09scorche|shs/plant/plane
11:58:01GodEater_catching plants isn't very sporting
11:58:01GodEater_they don't tend to move much as a rule
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12:35:30sideralI have some Wiki breakage:
12:36:15sideral"Foswiki detected an internal error - please check your Foswiki logs and webserver logs for more information. −− Wide character in memGzip"
12:36:46sideralat this URL: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/bin/compare/Main/ReleaseNotes39?rev1=3&rev2=2&render=interweave&context=1
12:37:56sideralWhatever gevaerts changed in rev3 of that page, the wiki wants to hide it from me :)
12:42:39[Saint]You don't have the propper security clearence ;P
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14:11:37CIA-27New commit by 03rasher (r30083): Update Danish translation
14:11:49CIA-27New commit by 03rasher (r30084): Update Danish translation
14:14:31CIA-27r30084 build result: All green
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14:23:13AlexPAny more for any more on the updates front?
14:26:33Viperfangupdate *this*
14:26:37*Viperfang grabs ipod
14:31:37ViperfangIs there a page that lists the last 20 or so commits, just the revision and comment would be handy
14:33:21Tornethe front page? :)
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14:36:49sideralViperfang: http://www.rockbox.org/since-4weeks.html
14:37:47Viperfangawesome, thanks
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14:41:39AlexPI get hundreds of "Bareword found where operator expected at (eval 97) line 1, near "s//\ba\b/ay"" where (eval xx) changes when building voice, but the voice still seems to work. Should I be concerned?
14:48:16AlexPWow, voice is quick these days - does it reuse clips that are common between targets?
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16:40:42AlexPRight, I'm building the release
16:40:54AlexPThe cut-off has been and gone :)
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19:19:30AlexPB4gder, Zagor: I'd like to upload the new release if you are about - is it OK to scp to the same place as last time?
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19:53:51skfunnyboyhey everyone...does anyone know if 3.9 coming soon ? ... the date in the release note is today .. ..6
19:53:54skfunnyboy*?
19:58:05saratogaprobably sometime tonight after people are back from work
19:58:28AlexPI've done all the builds
19:58:31saratogabut you can just download the current build which will be essentially the same thing minus the version tags and such
19:58:38AlexPJust need to upload them
19:59:04gevaertssaratoga: not really...
19:59:25skfunnyboyok thanks for the information..
19:59:40gevaertstrunk has had a few real changes
19:59:47godzirraSo what's a good device with good battery life and storage room that runs rockbox?
19:59:55godzirraI miss my iriver. :/
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20:07:13godzirraDon't everyone answer at once...
20:07:56godzirraI was looking at a cowon, but they all have touch screens, and I want something simple.
20:09:15skfunnyboyI like the fuize...but the screen is small....
20:09:17skfunnyboy*fuze
20:10:13godzirraAnd that one's sd card based?
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20:10:26skfunnyboyyea, micro sd
20:10:31godzirraAh, okay.
20:11:02godzirra1.8" screen? Is that any bigger than an ipod classic?
20:11:49skfunnyboythe classic 5g is 2.5''
20:12:10godzirraAh, okay. That is pretty small then.
20:12:14skfunnyboyyea
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20:12:58godzirraIf I went that route, is there any reason not to get the 2gb version and a huge sd card?
20:13:18godzirraHrm... whats the biggest sd card that would work on it?
20:13:27godzirraThat might be too small. :/
20:14:06gevaertsAny microsd should work
20:14:31skfunnyboyyou can put a microSDHC of 32BG mac
20:14:34skfunnyboy*max
20:14:37godzirraSansa Fuze - supports microSDHC cards to 16GB
20:14:41godzirraAccording to their docs.
20:14:56godzirraMight be higher than that.. who knows.
20:14:58gevaertsThat's the OF
20:15:17skfunnyboy...on wikpedia they say 32...
20:15:22godzirraHuh... okay.
20:15:25godzirraMaybe that's an old page.
20:15:35godzirraI really wish cowon hadn't shifted 90% of their stuff to touch screen.
20:15:44skfunnyboybut on mine the biggest microsd i used is 2GB so i cannot tell you
20:15:56skfunnyboywhy you dont want touchscreen based mp3?
20:17:00godzirraBecause I toss mine in my pocket, my backpack, etc. My ipod is durable as hell. I don't have to worry about it not working if I accidentally drop it, or worrying about the screen cracking, or anything else.
20:17:13AlexPIt is a bit irrelevant as we don't support them
20:17:24AlexPThe cowon ones that is
20:17:32skfunnyboyok
20:17:44godzirraFor the new cowon ones? I didn't know they weren't supported, but I wouldn't buy one anyways. :p
20:17:57AlexPwell, on D2 and 7 a bit
20:18:11godzirraThose aren't touch screen though, right? And they can't be bought from cowon anymore I think?
20:18:17AlexPD2 is IIRC
20:18:20godzirraAh.
20:18:27AlexPI might be talking bobbins though :)
20:18:49godzirraBasically what I want is my ipod... except with rockbox... I guess I'm picky. :)
20:19:28AlexPAll the supported models are listed on the front page
20:19:38godzirraI know. My model is not supported.
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20:19:51godzirraI sadly have the classic.
20:20:52skfunnyboyThe iPod Classic? ... what gen?
20:22:30godzirra5g I think. Its experimental, but I've been told it drops battery life from 25 hours to 8ish.
20:23:00gevaerts5g is the video
20:23:08skfunnyboyok
20:23:22godzirraMaybe its not 5g then. Its the 80gb ipod classic silver with the metal front faceplate.
20:23:50skfunnyboyi always wanted a classic... im a big fan of apple..XD
20:24:16godzirraSomeone told me my only choice was to go with the EMCore install to get rockbox on which doesn't handle power correctly.
20:25:47TheSevenyes, emcore is currently the only way to boot rockbox on the classic
20:26:18TheSevenand our code still consumes a bit more power than apple's for a still unknown reason
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20:28:16godzirraYeah, I assumed that whoever told me that yesterday was correct... ;)
20:29:23TheSevenjust wanted to confirm it :)
20:29:49godzirraAh well. :/
20:30:16skfunnyboy@TheSeven .... did you fixed the problem with emcore and some nano 2g?
20:30:20godzirraSo back to my original question then... what's a good hard drive based, long battery life, non touch screen mp3 player that works with rockbox? :)
20:30:38skfunnyboyOh.... Hard drive based ....
20:30:54godzirraskfunnyboy: Yeah, I realized that was a requirement afterwards.. .I like having room. :)
20:30:59godzirraI have a lot of music.
20:31:01gevaertsgigabeat F
20:31:10skfunnyboyToshiba gigabeat X
20:31:15TheSevenskfunnyboy: which problem?
20:31:32gevaertsI wouldn't call the X a player with battery life...
20:31:52gevaertsWell, the best one is the iaudio M5L, but good luck finding one of those...
20:32:04TheSevenX/F was the space/battery tradeoff?
20:32:15saratogathe X had a better screen IIRC
20:32:16gevaertsoh, wait
20:32:18saratogabut the same guts
20:32:21Buschelor the good old iPod Video... has >20h runtime as well −− depending on the battery capacity
20:32:22gevaertsYes, X should be good
20:32:29*gevaerts confused it with the S :\
20:32:47saratogafuze + 32GB sd isn't too bad, given how cheap the fuze goes for
20:33:03godzirraYeah, iaudio m5l seems unlikely. :/
20:33:26skfunnyboy@TheSeven oh...nvm ... i think it's fixed.
20:33:27godzirrasaratoga: I may have to check out the fuze... I just hate the tiny screen size.
20:33:41AlexPIt isn't that small
20:33:51AlexPAnd it depends what you are going to do
20:33:55godzirraPlay music. ;)
20:34:01AlexPI wouldn't watch video on any of these players
20:34:02skfunnyboyI own the fuze v2 ...not the + one
20:34:14godzirraI guess its not that bad if I'm not doing video... and I don't do video on my classic now.
20:34:22AlexPSo personally I don't think the size difference is terribly important just for music
20:35:00*AlexP does the Swede summoning dance
20:35:02godzirraThat's probably true.
20:35:38skfunnyboyThe only thing i hate with the fuze on OF is the database scan..
20:36:05godzirrawhat do you mean?
20:36:38skfunnyboyeverytime you exit usb mode and you added a file, or you remove or add a sd card... the player will take a long time to scan all your mp3 file, video and picture
20:36:50skfunnyboyto list it with metatags ..
20:37:18godzirraAh, okay.
20:37:29godzirraHow long does it normally take for your 2gb card?
20:37:32skfunnyboybut if you install rockbox this problem is fixed
20:37:35skfunnyboy2-3 min
20:37:39godzirraOh, then its not an issue :)
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20:37:59skfunnyboyyea...but it's a 2gb...
20:38:14godzirraI see where you'd hate that... but I'd be using rockbox on it, so I don't care. ;)
20:38:24skfunnyboy:P
20:38:31godzirraSo ~$100 for a 2gb sansa fuze + 32gb micro sd.
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20:39:26skfunnyboyi paid ~70$ for the fuze..
20:39:40godzirraA quick google search is showing them at various places for ~$50
20:39:42godzirraand same for the card.
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20:39:52godzirraWith some more searching I can probably find some cheaper.
20:40:32skfunnyboyyea..
20:41:18skfunnyboymine worked for like 1~1.5 years... with several drop xD ... the player still work ..but half
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20:42:23godzirrabut half..?
20:43:42skfunnyboysometime the player turn on ...sometine not
20:43:44skfunnyboy*sometime
20:43:55skfunnyboybut ... mine is broke..
20:44:21godzirraThat's not a stunning endorsement of the build quality. ;)
20:44:45skfunnyboylol ...that's not a ipod ehh..XD
20:45:18godzirraChrist. the 30gb ipod video is in stores still for $250. :/
20:45:40skfunnyboyThis is why i cannot have the classic..the freaking price XD
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20:46:31godzirrayeah.
20:46:47skfunnyboyi own a touch 4g, a nano 4g and a 2g ..
20:46:59skfunnyboyi want a classic...so badly ! XD
20:47:24godzirraEbay. :)
20:47:38skfunnyboyim 15 ....
20:47:53skfunnyboyI cannot buy from eBay :/ ..
20:48:21godzirraWhy not?
20:48:22godzirraOh.
20:48:23godzirragotcha.
20:48:26godzirraGet your parents to?
20:48:42skfunnyboyThey dont want ...
20:48:56AlexPSliding off topic chaps
20:49:10skfunnyboyYea.that right ..XD srx
20:49:12*bluebroth3r wanted to point to #rockbox-community that moment :)
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20:49:50skfunnyboySo ..back to topic... what the local time ?
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20:50:34bluebroth3rskfunnyboy: 8:50pm
20:50:43skfunnyboyok..
20:50:52bluebroth3rthough I don't see why that's more on topic ...
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20:51:43skfunnyboy−−' XD
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21:09:42skfunnyboy@TheSeven i talk about this The display doesn't work on some iPod Nano 2G devices. If this happens to you, we suggest to stick with iLoader for now.
21:10:08TheSeventhat's still the case as far as I know
21:10:20skfunnyboyok
21:10:36TheSevenhaven't managed to get hold of an affected device so far, so it's kinda hard to debug
21:10:44skfunnyboyok
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21:19:34wodzSound subsystem of rk27xx drives me crazy. It has single i2s fifo to send samples with dma capabilities. I tried dozen of combinations and I always get sound in both channels. I use the same i2s and codec setup as OF so I must miss something trivial.
21:20:28wodzWhat is the most common data pattern of i2s fifo if there are no separate fifos for L and R?
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21:21:17bertrikI think interleaved L and R
21:21:52bertrikmaybe there's something wrong in the codec or D/A setup?
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21:26:46pamaurythe ssp of the imx233 drives me crazy too :) Apparently if I want to switch to high speed to have usb working with large packets, I need to tweaks the clocks and voltage :-/ The more I write code, the more I need to write code !
21:27:20bertrikIt looks like on AMSv1 the FIFO is 32 bit wide, but you can have different configurations, like 16-bit L and R in one 32-bit word combined, or interleaved L and R 18- bit data
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21:43:59wodzhmm, datasheet says that fifo size is configurable and default is 32bits x 32 but I can't see where it is configured.
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22:01:40dhrasmusi want to be notified of new rockbox releases. both stable releases, and builds that might affect either of my two rockbox-compatible devices. what's the best way to do this? possible with RSS/email?
22:02:23bertrikwe have a google calendar with release schedules
22:03:18bertrikit's called rockbox.calendar@gmail.com
22:04:08bertrikwodz, do you have a datasheet that I could look into?
22:05:15Buschelwodz: you are using the rk27xx internal codec?
22:05:23wodzBuschel: yes
22:05:37wodzbertrik: google for Porsche9 datasheet
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22:05:53*Buschel just did the same a few minutes ago
22:06:27Buschelwodz: you saw the strange "Bit 6" in the Codec's CR1 register?
22:06:39dhrasmusbertrik: beautiful, thanks! say i want to be aware if the TextViewer plugin becomes available for my Sansa Clip+ : is there a good way to find that out?
22:06:41wodzBuschel: yes - tried that
22:06:48Buschelany effect?
22:06:52wodzno
22:07:05Buschelnot at all?
22:07:17wodzNothing I can measure
22:07:50Buschelyou say you are sending mono samples and hear them on both channels?
22:08:57wodzBuschel: I say I send various patterns and I always have signal in both channels
22:09:20bertrikdhrasmus, no, other than following the recent check-ins (and being able to understand them)
22:09:44wodzrk28xx has the same I2S IP block and there are linux sources for this but I can't see obvious difference in configuration
22:09:52Buschelis the sampling frequency still correct? so, correct playback speed?
22:10:44wodzBuschel: I have codec configured to 44.1kHz and looping 128 32bit samples gives ~334Hz sine so this looks ok
22:11:07gevaertsdhrasmus: you could try following the MajorChanges wiki page. I actually seem to remember that there's an rss feed of that somewhere
22:11:08wodzerr 344
22:11:20Buschelmaybe the mixer is just misconfigured?
22:12:09bertriksome codecs indeed have mixers to send L data to R analog out and vice versa
22:12:17wodzwell, datasheet is a bit cryptic
22:12:34bertrikyou did set the stereo mode bit in I2S_TXCTL, right?
22:12:36*Buschel is a bit confused as well
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22:13:29wodzbertrik: cleared bit 3 to be strict - yes
22:14:06Buschelhmm, the mixer does not seem to allow to mix L DAC to R out or vice versa...
22:17:05dhrasmusgevaerts: thanks! sounds like exactly what i wanted. for any others interested, rss is here: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/MajorChanges
22:17:41wodzthe TX fifo is 16x32bits so datasheet lies once again (it sets FIFO FULL flag after 16th transfer)
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22:20:22bertrikI wonder with AOHPM is, maybe M for mono?
22:20:43wodzwhere?
22:20:44bertrikis perhaps it is some common mode thing, like on the AMS players
22:20:53bertrikin the block diagram
22:21:57bertrikhave you tried the exact opposite for bits that set mono mode?
22:22:13wodzyes
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22:23:54Buschelwhat does CR2, Bit 6-3, do?
22:24:09Buschelit is more or less undocumented...
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22:24:49Buschelmore = used to set Audio Data Word Length in the DAC/ADC paths, less = no details about the different possible settings
22:25:02uskihi there; there used to be a webpage somewhere with all the fonts displayed as bitmaps; I can't find it, is it gone?
22:25:20wodzBuschel: OF sets 0 there
22:27:37wodzBuschel: in SDK is #define DAC_ADWL16 (0x00) and #define ADC_ADWL16 (0x00), dissasembly confirms such configuration
22:28:09Buschelok
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22:29:38uskifinally found it : rasher.dk/rockbox/fonts/">http://rasher.dk/rockbox/fonts/
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23:30:22wodzbloody hell!!!
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23:30:56wodzsamples are int16 interleaved L/R
23:31:21wodzthe phone socket seems to be screwed up
23:31:31wodz*phones
23:44:55bertrikon AMS, there is a "common mode" output on the DAC. I we don't use that, both L and R get the same signal, which is the difference between L and R
23:45:27bertrikthe effect is basically identical to not completely inserting the headphone plug
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23:50:32bertrikor karaoke mode in rockbox
23:51:39CIA-27New commit by 03alex (r30085): Tag 3.9 release
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23:55:20ViperfangGonna put vgm support in it yet?
23:55:53ViperfangSorry, that doent sound right... a bit impatient / annoying 12 yo
23:56:16ViperfangWhat I _meant_ to say, was is vgm support on the horizon?
23:56:28ViperfangWith that comma 4 characters to the right
23:56:40ViperfangI might just give up and pass out right here
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