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#rockbox log for 2011-08-18

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00:20:10CIA-14New commit by 03buschel (r30327): Submit a patch to the VGM codec by Mauricio Gama which saves some more RAM through changes of the buffer configuration and an update of the resampler ...
00:22:37CIA-14r30327 build result: All green
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00:53:12sideralkugel, Torne: Yeah, you're right, what I said pretty much describes the dircache as is. I'd still love to move some of the code complexity of handing static/dynamic dircache (un)availability/startup/shutdown away from the dircache clients into the filesystem code, but that doesn't seem to be so simple
00:53:23sideralThe handling of dircache unavailability is pretty client-specific
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00:57:54amiconnBuschel, wodz (logs): If arm7ej-s actually means what I think it does, it is expected to be slower than arm940t, all other conditions being equal
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00:59:07amiconnPerformance should be comparable to PP (single core build)
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01:31:56sideralGigaBrick: I've edited your FS comment as you wanted
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09:25:09wodzamiconn: am I right that reading with ldmia data chunk equal to cacheline size should be preferable?
09:27:21wodzor is this only coldfire trick?
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10:46:19Unhelpfulkugel: sorrry it took so long, finally getting around to looking
10:47:08Unhelpfultouches a lot of stuff i don't really know about - i assume you're more interested in my opinions on changes in the buflib than on changes to use it?
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11:07:37kugelUnhelpful: both :)
11:08:20kugelbut the buflib changes slightly more
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11:10:23Unhelpfulwere there any buflib changes at the initial move into core?
11:16:12kugelUnhelpful: yes
11:16:45kugelI developed most changes out-of-tree (kugel-/buflib">https://github.com/kugel-/buflib)
11:18:30Unhelpfulah! so i had probably best look there too ;)
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12:07:41pamauryarg, this s3c2440 usb controller is annoying, every error leads to interrupt flooding basically
12:08:56kugelpamaury: then *don't* make errors :)
12:09:17pamauryyeah but that's not easy since the documentation is not consistent
12:09:58pamaurybut it's nearly working: controls basically works, bulk out too, haven't testing bulk in
12:10:24kugelwhat device are you doing this for?
12:10:31pamaurymio c510
12:10:35pamaury(a gps device)
12:10:51kugelinteresting
12:10:52pamaurykugel: who wrote the sd driver ?
12:11:02kugelb0h00n
12:11:11pamauryI got the gps working ! I want to have bluetooth too
12:11:21kugelhe did everything that wasn't already there for the gigabeatf
12:11:38pamauryI don't understand why the sd driver only handles sd removal when it's use as main driver
12:11:53kugeldo you read the official samsung datasheet?
12:12:01pamauryit could safely handle removal and insertion (I modified the code). Yes I think
12:12:50pamaurythe rest of the manual is ok but the usb device part is really bad
12:12:50gevaertsMaybe it's telling that the gigabeat f has a hardware USB-ATA bridge
12:12:56kugelI can try stuff on my mini2440 if you like
12:13:06kugelalthough it's not where I am currently
12:13:30gevaertsOh, wait, is that the full speed only device? That would also explain the bridge of course
12:13:37pamaurythere is not hurry, I still don't really know if I want to add this device to the official repo :)
12:14:18kugelwhy not?
12:15:44pamaurywho want to run rockbox on his gps device apart from me ? :)
12:16:24pamauryanyway, the code is here pamaury/rockbox/tree/mio_c510">https://github.com/pamaury/rockbox/tree/mio_c510 (not up to date) if you're interested
12:17:20pamauryMy current silly plan is to make usb work, add a serial driver to read/write to bluetooth uart and hciattach on host to test the bluetooth controller :D
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12:47:16JdGordonhas anyone noticed the wps apparently adding space at the end of strings since my commits on sunday?
12:47:24JdGordonor just that one guy who come on irc?
12:50:13pamauryarg, I'm an idiot as always, making stupid bugs...
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13:04:37pamaurythat's definitely weird: the usb controller has the interrupt flag set but no interrupt is generated :-/
13:08:05*pamaury notes that disabling the interrupt will indeed prevent any other interrupt from being generated :)
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13:13:16pamaurygevaerts: ever seen this error message " config 1 has an invalid interface number: 0 but max is -1"
13:13:18pamaury?
13:16:01gevaertspamaury: no
13:17:36pamauryseems like a linux bug, the device only send a partial device descriptor it seems
13:27:26kugelUnhelpful: did you get anywhere? if you have a question, just drop it :)
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15:15:20ja_Hi, I've just installed the current build on my beloved iRiver iHP-140 and it boots but throws a "panic" when trying to access the filesystem. Returning back to version 3.9 resolved this problem. Does anybody know more about this severe problem ?
15:17:04gevaertsDoes it say more?
15:18:20ja_don't remember this but I could try to redo this again
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15:20:37ja_*PANIC*
15:21:09ja_buffer_alloc(): exclusive buffer owner
15:21:21ja_That's all it says
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15:24:48ja_I thought it might be useful to give feedback because you're just in the middle of releasing version 3.9.1
15:25:17kugelit is, but it's irrelevant for 3.9.1
15:25:39Torne3.9.1 is based on 3.9, not on the current build, so it's okay. but thanks for letting us know!
15:25:51Tornemr. kugel can fix that :p
15:26:16kugelja_: if you can compile from source, can you apply this? http://paste.debian.net/126486/ this should give a bit more information
15:27:50kugelgevaerts: might commit that patch in another form? #define buffer_alloc(x) __buffer_alloc(__FILE__, __LINE__, __func__, (x))?
15:28:50ja_I'm not sure if my GCC environment is configured to crosscompile for this platform. I remember I did this on a different system but it's some times ago
15:29:05kugelit likely isn't
15:29:18kugelbut we ship a convinience script for setting a cross compiler up
15:29:24kugeltools/rockboxdev.sh
15:30:50ja_and it runs on Cygwin on Win7 64 bit ?
15:32:38kugelit should yes
15:32:59kugelalthough we strongly recommend a linux vm instead
15:34:54ja_I've just started a Debian 5 in Virtualbox
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15:38:05ja_Is there a link to SVN ?
15:38:25ja_or CVS or HG ?
15:40:01ja_or where to get source files ?
15:40:57kugelsvn co svn://svn.rockbox.org/rockbox
15:48:28ja_current build is trunk ?
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15:51:10ja_ls
15:51:49gevaertsyes
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15:58:46ja_follow-up using Windows for compile job; My Debian was not well prepared for this...
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16:01:33CIA-14New commit by 03buschel (r30328): Allow to use different compiler settings for codecs built from libgme. ARM now uses -O1 except for the 2413 emulator. The speed on PP5022 increases by ...
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16:04:31CIA-14r30328 build result: 4784 errors, 0 warnings (buschel committed)
16:04:37Buschelwow
16:05:05pamauryis this normal that booting takes 20 seconds on my mio c510 ? It takes something like 10sec to apply the skin settings !
16:07:23kugelpamaury: the s3c2440 sd driver is super slow
16:07:23*Buschel recognizes he did make clean... :/
16:07:35Buschel*not* make clean
16:07:35kugelit has uart printfs in it
16:07:54kugelotoh, on the mini2440, it doesn't worth without that printfs
16:08:15pamauryit doesn't work ? :-o
16:08:33pamauryI'll have a look at it, it's annoying
16:08:57ja_ouch...build breaks:
16:09:00ja_../../binutils-2.20.1/libiberty/clock.c:70: error: conflicting types for 'clock'
16:09:01ja_/usr/include/time.h:46: error: previous declaration of 'clock' was here
16:09:01ja_make[2]: *** [clock.o] Error 1
16:09:51ja_I mean the binutils build
16:10:00God_EaterThis is why we recommend linux and not cygwin ;)
16:11:33pamaurykugel: it doesn't seem uart printf is enable
16:12:00AlexPspeaking of 3.9.1 I'm going to have to delay it slightly
16:12:05AlexPTuesday is my new target
16:12:39God_Eaterwhat did Tuesday ever do to you?
16:14:00AlexPIt looked at me funny
16:16:30kugelja_: strange
16:17:57pamauryargggg, I hate how the usb detect mechanism is so complicated
16:18:17Torneplease make it simpler!
16:18:19Torne:)
16:18:33TorneSpecifically please eliminate USB_DETECT_BY_DRV
16:18:39Torneas it causes bugs on ipod :)
16:18:48pamauryyeah but I can't do everything at the same time
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16:19:26pamauryAre there target which actually detect usb not by event (ie by polling ) ??
16:20:32TorneNot sure
16:21:08TorneMost detect by driver, which is not actually that reliable in many cases (false positives from usb chargers whose data pins look a bit like a bus reset)
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16:21:43pamauryI'm trying to use polling + detect by core on my device but it fails with storage, resulting in something *really* weird
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16:35:47sinlesshello,every one does anybody work in android project?
16:36:50AlexPsinless: Various people have dabbled, some more than others - you are best just to ask your question
16:38:31sinlessI hpoe to add an 480*272 build,as many chinese jokebox use this kind of screen and with android 2.3 system
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16:40:05sinlessNow I can only use 320*240 build on my device :(
16:40:38AlexPOK
16:41:01sinlessOn,Thanks~
16:41:31AlexPThe main issue is a WPS I think
16:43:01Buschelis there a simple to undo my last submit? or do I need to create a rollback change by hand? especially as I have added/removed some files
16:43:14sinlessbut now there are surely many factories produce this kind of devices,such as onda,a popular chinese jukebox factory
16:45:25AlexPBuschel: You could dif
16:45:34AlexPdiff it with the previous revision
16:45:37AlexPThen apply that
16:45:55Tornesinless: we aren't really doing *any* official builds of the android port yet, because it's not done..
16:46:00Torneand we haven't quite worked out how to do it
16:46:15Torneso, feel free to ask one of the people doing unofficial builds to do that (which i think you already did on the forums, no?)
16:46:23Torneas for having a skin for that resolution..
16:47:16Torneagain, feel free to make one :)
16:47:16sinless:)..
16:47:59AlexPJdGordon: I'm still not sure I get %Vg - you can put it before any line in the viewport, and it changes the background gradient (and foreground text colour) for all subsequent lines? Can you have multiple ones for different lines?
16:48:35sinlessbut as i'm not programming,I can't do that by myself,and I can't find someone to do that..
16:48:57AlexPA WPS isn't programming
16:49:26AlexPAnd unfortunately, it more or less needs someone who wants it to do it, you might have a long wait if you wait for someone else.
16:50:12sinlessWPS? Can I make a WPS by myself and combine it with a 320*240 build just by copy and paste?
16:50:40Torneyou can compile any size of build yourself just fine
16:50:43Tornealso without programming
16:50:46Torneit's just a parameter to the build.
16:50:57Tornefollow instructions, type 480 and 272 in teh appropriate places :)
16:51:17sinlessOK,I will try~
16:51:21Torneand it will work fine with a smaller wps, it just won't use the whole screen until you make a wps for that screen size
16:51:24AlexPJdGordon: And for %Vs, is it the same - it changes from there on? Can you have multiple? And is the gradient a vertical gradient? And if you set it for e.g. 2 lines and there are 4 in the viewport, then will the last 2 be the colour of the 2nd colour specified? And I assume we are talking about background gradient?
16:52:14sinlesshmm,that means I can make a 480*272 WPS and combine it with a 480*320 build?
16:52:35Torneno.
16:52:50Tornethe size of screen the build is compiled for is the maximum number of pixels you can use under any circumstances
16:52:52sinless..
16:53:06Tornewe don't yet handle the fact that android devices have varying screen sizes
16:53:28Torneall the "real" mp3 players we support have just one fixed screen resolution, so our code assumes one fixed screen size
16:53:40sinless..
16:53:43Tornea WPS doesn't "know" what size of screen it's intended to be used on
16:53:58Torneit's just that a WPS designed for a small screen will put everything in the top left corner of a large screen :)
16:54:09Tornebecause all the WPS dimensions are in pixels, not relative to the screen size or anything.
16:54:41sinlessthen a 320*240 build is OK?
16:55:10Torne..if you only wnat to use the top left 320*240 pixels of your screen, yes :)
16:55:33Torneif you want to use the rest of the display, then no :)
16:55:37sinless...It is what I uses now...
16:56:19AlexPsinless: You need to make a 480*272 WPS and combine it with a 480*272 build
16:56:32AlexPTo make that build for yourself is trivial
16:57:14sinlessbut I know nothing about C..
16:57:19AlexPYou don't need to
16:57:39AlexPYou need to be able to type "480" and "272" when prompted in the build process
16:57:58AlexPAnd to build, you don't need to be able to program either, just to follow instructions
16:58:38sinlessOK,I'm going to find instructions,thanks~
16:59:16AlexPThere are plenty on the wiki, but I don't know which are the most up-to-date unfortunately
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17:01:31sinlessyes,that's really a mess
17:02:49Zagorhttp://www.rockbox.org/wiki/HowToCompile
17:03:57AlexPI imagine he will need a guide to setting up a build environment first, probably on Windows
17:04:52sinlessI once using cygwin to make a rockbox loader for onda vx747..
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17:17:27CIA-14New commit by 03buschel (r30329): Roll back r30328. Sorry for any inconvenience.
17:20:22CIA-14r30329 build result: All green
17:28:57ja_I've now setup my Debian to build trunk without errors. Applying the patch and building again. Where's the output tree ?
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17:40:08n1sja_: what output tree?
17:40:56God_Eaterja_ you should have created a directory under the trunk checkout called "build" or similar, and then run "../tools/configure"
17:41:11God_Eaterfollowed by "make" and then finally "make zip"
17:41:22God_Eaterwhereupon rockbox.zip is generated in your CWD
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18:35:45ja_I've found my error: I've not patched all files. Build runs fine now. I installed it onto my H-140 but it panics again:
18:36:07n1sja_: and what does the panic message read now?
18:36:43CIA-14r30330 build result: All green
18:36:54ja_buffer_alloc() : alloc_thumbnail_buf:614 exclusive buffer owner
18:38:00n1sja_: kugel is probably the person to deal with it and he'll find this in the logs now
18:40:23ja_OK, I'll return to 3.9 now and leave it as it is because I have to stop this session because I have no time now
18:40:43ja_thank you for your efforts and bye for now
18:42:37n1sja_: thank you for your testing, if he comes up with a fix he might want some testing for it so it would be great if you could pop in here in a day or two
18:44:10ja_...or just leave a message at Joost.Andrae[at]gmx.de
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18:45:02Buscheln1s: as you just rewokred some make-stuff you might be the right person to ask :)
18:45:45Buscheln1s: libgme can be be optimized a lot when using -O1 for ARM, but emu2413 should be stilled using -O3
18:46:13n1sBuschel: i'm by no means a make wizard and unfortunately i've to run away for a bit
18:46:16Buscheln1s: my approaches somehow always end up in a mess
18:46:26Buscheln1s: bad :/
18:46:32n1si can perhaps look at it tomorrow if you remind me
18:47:19n1si would suggest separating the emu into it's own lib, like libasf
18:47:32Buscheleasiest would be to recompile the sources for each codec, using the dedicated compiler setting. the current make-implementation does not do this
18:48:21BuschelI have tried to split the emu2413 stuff into an own lib, but this did not work as well ... :(
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19:51:08n1siirc, yes
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19:53:49wodzis this the same as strb r2, [r0]! ?
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19:54:51n1sstrb r2, [r0 #1]! would pre-index, dunno what it does without the immediate
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21:07:59kugelpnot yet
21:08:53ja_did you get the information regarding the panic after applying the patches ?
21:09:14kugelpyes I read the logs :-)
21:09:59ja_fortunately I was able to build on Debian 5 within Virtualbox :)
21:12:26ja_...and my Vaio 13" notebook is strong enough to do this within virtualization (the CPU has hardware support for virtualization and it has 8 GB RAM)
21:18:47ja_I hava a question: Did anyone of you try to implement or to port a FLAC encoder within Rockbox ?
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21:23:29ja_Recording with lossless compression would be fine when doing live recordings. Compared to WAV, FLAC files should be smaller and files can be remastered without losing quality
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22:02:24ja_thanks. I'll try it when doing my next dummy head concert recording ;-)
22:02:41fmlHello. I would like to close FS #9455 since the problem adressed there (no eye catch in scrolling strings) has been resolved in the other way (a slight delay before scroll repeat). Any objections to closing?
22:02:43fs-bluebothttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/9455 3Add half the viewport width in spaces for forward scrolling. (patches, new)
22:09:02GigaBrickkugelp, I started getting that playlist control file error again... Should I add something to the FS about that?
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22:14:27GigaBrickOkay, I might actually check back on doing that later when I've gotten some sleep, but I just wanted to see if that was the next step
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22:44:05GigaBrickCan someone on the latest revision check to see if shuffle play still plays shuffled? Doesn't seem to be working for me anymore...
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23:01:10CIA-14New commit by 03buschel (r30331): Optimized compiler settings for libgme. ARM now uses -O1 except for the 2413 emulator. The speed on PP5022 increases by 0-5% (NSF, YM2413-VGM), 5-10% ...
23:03:50CIA-14r30331 build result: All green
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