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#rockbox log for 2011-08-24

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08:45:14ukleinekwodz: pong
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09:02:32CIA-14New commit by 03kugel (r30343): Fix FS #12239, data abort after going from FMS to WPS. ...
09:03:16kugelhmm, I didn't notice 3.9.1 was released already :)
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11:04:13gevaertskugelp: was it?
11:16:40kugelpgevaerts: ?
11:16:47gevaertsreleased
11:17:19bug2000gevaerts, Wiki has release notes, but no offical news item.
11:17:57gevaertsRelease notes are usually prepared in advance
11:17:58bug2000http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes391 says NOT YET RELEASED!
11:18:05kugelpdownloads says 3.9
11:18:20bug2000ALERT! Rockbox 3.9.1 was released on 18th August 2011 - So funky.
11:18:45kugelpoh I was confused by that line apparently
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11:27:53ptrkmj_hello. do you know any methods for batch fetching lyrics from Web-databases to text files for use with RB lyrics plugin?
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12:26:23wodzukleinek: ping
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13:37:19ukleinekwodz: pong
13:39:08wodzukleinek: hello - I'll take a look at source - maybe I remember where was the problem reported
13:40:06ukleinekwodz: I don't get you, why don't you just try to rebuild?
13:40:29wodzI am at work :P
13:41:04ukleinekwodz: ah
13:43:48wodzin libusb.pyx "data = list(cdata[i] for i in xrange(transferred))"
13:44:20ukleinekwodz: that might be a problem with older cython versions
13:44:43wodzit was on ubuntu LTS
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13:46:36ukleinekwodz: that is lucid?
13:47:23wodzI can't remember codename
13:48:02ukleinekwodz: 10.04 (that is lucid) has cython 0.11.2, which is probably too old
13:48:18wodzthats the case I guess
13:50:14*ukleinek tries to reproduce with cython from Debian stable
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14:00:11ukleinekwodz: there are even more problems with cython 0.12. I think it's not worth to fix these
14:00:19ukleinekwhich python version are you using?
14:00:43wodz2.6 I believe
14:00:47ukleineklucid has 2.6.5
14:02:18ukleinekwodz: 64 or 32 bit?
14:02:32wodz32
14:02:47*ukleinek looks for a 32bit machine
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14:16:25ukleinekwodz: I sent you the lib via pm
14:17:18wodzuse email, dcc will fail probably here
14:18:17ukleinekwodz: yeah, m stands for mail, not message here
14:18:32wodzok
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15:30:01TronseHeello guys
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19:50:05TheSevenso we're rackbox now? :)
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19:52:46_p4bl0Hi there
19:53:59_p4bl0I'm creating a WPS theme and I don't find a way to create "spacer line" (I would like to have more vertical space between two lines). How could I do this?
19:54:19_p4bl0(is it at all possible?)
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20:08:19_p4bl0oh, I think I can simulate what I want using viewport, I'll try that
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20:18:13ukleinekwodz: that either means "my" rom is different from yours or my player isn't in "rom-mode" though it looks like it.
20:18:57wodzukleinek: I think it is the letter
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20:19:28ukleinekwodz: that's strange, isn't it?
20:19:31_p4bl0The documentation says that "For the WPS, all lines before the first viewport declaration are drawn in the default (full-screen) viewport" and it seems it's not true. On my Sansa Clip+, those line do not appear at all.
20:20:03wodzlatter I mean
20:20:14ukleinekgot that
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20:21:05wodzukleinek: where did you get this dump tool?
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20:30:05saratogaI'm super busy this week, but i took a quick look at the Clip Zip firmware
20:30:10saratogaits another AMSv2 device
20:30:23saratogabasically looks a lot like a FuzeV2 in a new package
20:30:37saratogahope that helps someone wanting to do all the hard work :)
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20:31:51Maelymhey
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20:35:13ukleinekwodz: do you have a clue how the nand is encrypted? it doesn't seem to be the same algorithm/key as the rkboottool does
20:35:25ukleinekwodz: the tool is included in the sdk
20:36:14wodzI didn't looked at your nand dump to be honest
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20:36:44ukleinekwodz: the question is independant of the nand dump tool
20:40:26wodzPossible attack is to cause nand error during boot (like moving tweezers or something on nand chip during boot). This should fall back to masked rom which I don't think is different than in regular rk27xx chips
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20:41:34ukleinekwodz: yeah, I just fear I don't get the OF up again after this
20:41:57ukleinekwodz: so I first want to understand the first block in nand and for that I want to decrypt it.
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20:42:59wodzhave you tried so called Repair tool - RK27DM.exe it would be interesting to see if it detects player correctly
20:43:29ukleinekwodz: no, do you know offhand how to use it?
20:44:52wodzIt shows some gui with some info at the very beginning. It is interesting if it finds the player as a first check
20:44:56*ukleinek searches for an usb cable as he is on vacation and missed to take it along from home
20:45:27ukleinekwodz: do I need to switch to dfu mode first?
20:45:34wodzI believe so
20:46:10wodzIs NandTool27.exe the tool of the question?
20:46:19ukleinekthat's fine, because I didn't manage yet to pass the usb storage mode into my vm.
20:46:27*ukleinek starts his vm
20:46:57bertriksaratoga, I'm curious as to what is actually different, perhaps just the screen (colour instead of mono)?
20:47:17saratogabertrik: maybe we're lucky and its just a FuzeV2 with a different resolution
20:47:39bertrikin a review on gizmodo, the display quality seems to be quite bad
20:47:50bertriksorry, ubergizmo
20:48:16ukleinekwodz: yeah, NandTool27.exe
20:48:58bertrikalmost like the display shows horizontal stripes on lines with bright parts, a bit like the c200
20:50:19bertrikI think we can have a port for this player in 3 months or so
20:50:32bertrikI mean less than 3 months
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20:54:19saratogayeah it seems like all the parts are already done for the various players
20:54:25saratogaunless they did something stupid like change the sd driver
20:54:48saratogabut on the other hand it seems functionally identical to the Clip+, which i'm pretty happy with already :)
20:56:24bertrikthanks for the heads-up
20:57:03ukleinekwodz: I assume NandTool27.exe doesn't work for you either?
20:57:04bertrikmight be funny if we could run the same rockbox image on both the clip+ and the clipzip :)
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21:00:42saratogathe screen resolution is different, so the apps layer wouldn't like that
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21:07:45wodzukleinek: I don't have windows installation handy to try
21:09:27ukleinekwodz: RK27DM reports: "ROCK USB device found"
21:09:55ukleinekwodz: Player information: Software: N/A, Loader: N/A
21:11:04*ukleinek wonders what he can do with RK27DM without bricking his device
21:11:27bertriksaratoga, hm, true
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21:14:39wodzukleinek: on mympx.org forum there are instructions how to use it
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21:26:20ukleinekwodz: rk27dm is what the usbtool should imitate?
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21:28:02wodzukleinek: I believe rk27dm is to upload bootloader into the nand
21:29:22wodzheh I have User Guide for this tool but in chinese :-)
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21:31:42wodzukleinek: I even have moded version in english
21:33:28bertrikoh, the clip zip apparently supports RDS (according to the abi review)
21:33:48ukleinekwodz: it warns to delete the contents of the player, so I aborted
21:34:19wodzukleinek: but does it detect your player? What loader/software version is reported?
21:34:33ukleinekwodz: 1314213000 < ukleinek> wodz: Player information: Software: N/A, Loader: N/A
21:35:39*wodz is blind apparently
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22:55:00amiconnsaratoga, bertrik: From what I found display resolution of the Clip Zip is 96x96
22:55:16amiconnThat's be the lowest horizontal resolution of all rockbox targets so far
22:55:17bertrikyes, I saw that on the abi review, not really hi-res
22:55:46amiconnThe row/column crosstalk points towards passive matrix lcd (like c200)
22:57:05bertrikCould be the same kind of display you sometimes see in cheap keychain photo frames
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