00:02:42 | | Join stripwax [0] (~Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) |
00:02:46 | | Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.5) |
00:03:06 | | Join TheLemonMan [0] (~LemonBoy@ppp-161-48.26-151.libero.it) |
00:07:23 | | Quit ReimuHakurei (Quit: And therefore, dye this sky red. The time has come again for my body to only go forward / Even the 'people' who pass by and the 'things' which become lost in confusion / Will one day be like vanished memories) |
00:07:39 | | Join ReimuHakurei [0] (~kudo@wireless.sit-co.net) |
00:07:52 | | Quit ReimuHakurei (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
00:07:56 | | Quit ChickeNES (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) |
00:08:11 | | Join ReimuHakurei [0] (~kudo@wireless.sit-co.net) |
00:08:22 | | Quit bluefoxx (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) |
00:08:45 | | Quit wodz (Read error: Operation timed out) |
00:09:12 | | Quit bertrik (Quit: :tiuQ) |
00:11:20 | | Quit domonoky (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
00:18:00 | | Join bluefoxx [0] (fuzzylomba@2002:4647:1f1f::4647:1f1f) |
00:20:55 | | Quit ageis (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
00:21:37 | | Join ageis [0] (~ageis@c-76-127-201-198.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
00:24:38 | | Quit stripwax (Quit: http://miranda-im.org) |
00:33:30 | | Join nick-p [0] (~nick@82-69-105-120.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) |
00:36:02 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
00:37:58 | | Join Scromple [0] (~Simon@115-64-195-104.static.tpgi.com.au) |
00:53:04 | | Quit ender` (Quit: A man should live forever or die trying. -- Spider Robinson) |
01:00 |
01:02:42 | | Join ChickeNES [0] (~ChickeNES@c-68-51-76-85.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
01:17:01 | | Quit Keripo (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
01:31:47 | | Quit bluefoxx (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
01:32:33 | | Join bluefoxx [0] (FuzzyLomba@S0106e0cb4e0a6d8a.vs.shawcable.net) |
01:36:27 | | Quit MethoS- (Remote host closed the connection) |
01:48:29 | | Join CaptainKewl [0] (captainkew@216.220.65.110) |
02:00 |
02:07:45 | | Quit robin0800 (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) |
02:11:43 | | Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) |
02:12:55 | | Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@eng340.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu) |
02:13:23 | | Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@149.254.61.29) |
02:14:13 | | Quit Scromple (Quit: Leaving) |
02:17:47 | | Join Scromple [0] (~Simon@115-64-195-104.static.tpgi.com.au) |
02:36:05 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
03:00 |
03:31:17 | | Join Scr0mple [0] (~Simon@115-64-195-104.static.tpgi.com.au) |
03:32:40 | | Quit Scromple (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) |
03:33:04 | | Quit robin0800 (Read error: Connection timed out) |
03:33:51 | | Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@149.254.60.157) |
03:36:17 | | Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.5) |
03:49:59 | | Quit nick-p (Quit: Leaving) |
03:51:15 | [Saint] | bluebrother: Sure, send me a 240x320 build? |
03:52:43 | [Saint] | evilnick: Did you have a poke at the new theme? |
03:53:17 | [Saint] | You're probably my most...Hmmm, what's the word. Consistent? Tester...so, input == appreciated. |
03:57:08 | | Join ReimuHakurei_ [0] (~kudo@wireless.sit-co.net) |
03:57:44 | | Join FoH_Phobos [0] (~foh@adsl-98-71-70-193.bhm.bellsouth.net) |
03:58:07 | | Quit ReimuHakurei (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
03:58:13 | | Quit FoH_Phobos (Client Quit) |
04:00 |
04:09:58 | | Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) |
04:09:59 | | Join pixelma_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) |
04:09:59 | | Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) |
04:10:00 | | Join amiconn_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) |
04:10:12 | | Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) |
04:10:20 | | Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) |
04:36:06 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
04:40:19 | [Saint] | ....seriously. |
04:40:30 | [Saint] | *no* comments on FS #12254 ? |
04:40:31 | fs-bluebot | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12254 RaaA cabbiev2 [Full Touch Application Port] (patches, new) |
04:40:40 | * | [Saint] is slightly perplexed. |
04:41:14 | [Saint] | No comments from devs I expect, but users...colour me surprised. |
04:42:12 | JdGordon| | err... users never comment |
04:42:23 | JdGordon| | and devs day nothing untill post commit |
04:42:32 | JdGordon| | and that cant be committed untill wpsbuild.pl is fixed |
04:43:09 | Llorean | It's been up like... less than a day? Post to the mailing list, post to the forums, and have patience if you actually want comments on the task. |
04:43:27 | | Quit TheSeven (Disconnected by services) |
04:43:43 | | Join [7] [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) |
04:44:37 | [Saint] | It's been on the forums for an age, with users constantly bugging me via PM, that's why I'm surprised. |
04:44:49 | [Saint] | Users *can't* comment on the forum, I locked the thread. |
04:45:36 | [Saint] | Ah.....I see. They've moved to Google+ now :-S |
04:49:26 | | Join powell14ski_ [0] (~powell14s@c-174-51-194-6.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
04:52:26 | | Join typn [0] (~quassel@184-155-93-126.cpe.cableone.net) |
05:00 |
05:07:47 | jhMikeS | kugel: that's the same algorithm! :) a different autocorrelation implementation (sort of) but it looks the same |
05:08:59 | jhMikeS | or at least very, very similar enough to look nearly the same :) |
05:10:07 | jhMikeS | ah, same guy did it |
05:24:25 | | Quit Keripo (Quit: Leaving.) |
05:28:26 | | Quit ChickeNES (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) |
05:39:37 | | Join Rob2223 [0] (~Miranda@p5DE4BC1D.dip.t-dialin.net) |
05:43:03 | | Quit Rob2222 (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) |
05:50:33 | | Quit typn (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) |
05:55:24 | | Quit robin0800 (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
05:56:39 | | Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@149.254.60.157) |
05:59:11 | | Join typn [0] (~quassel@184-155-86-74.cpe.cableone.net) |
06:00 |
06:14:13 | | Quit factor (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
06:16:26 | | Quit ageis (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
06:23:08 | | Quit typn (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) |
06:24:27 | | Join typn [0] (~quassel@24-116-213-82.cpe.cableone.net) |
06:26:04 | | Join ageis [0] (~ageis@c-76-127-201-198.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
06:31:34 | | Join factor [0] (~factor@74.197.205.204) |
06:32:06 | | Quit robin0800 (Quit: Leaving) |
06:34:16 | | Quit typn (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
06:35:39 | | Join typn [0] (~quassel@24-116-213-82.cpe.cableone.net) |
06:36:07 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
06:40:47 | | Quit typn (Remote host closed the connection) |
06:45:04 | tjb0607 | this is probably more of a problem with my Linux, but when I try to open the rockbox installer to update RockBox, it gives the error "Mountpoint is not writeable" |
06:45:41 | tjb0607 | how could I go about fixing this? |
06:45:58 | JdGordon| | mount it with the correct options |
06:46:44 | tjb0607 | I'm mounting it with KDE by clicking it in dolphin, and it's not running as root or anything. |
06:47:14 | tjb0607 | the terminal outputs: "libusb couldn't open USB device /dev/bus/usb/002/005: Permission denied." a bunch |
06:47:40 | JdGordon| | were is that error coming from? |
06:47:47 | JdGordon| | oh, ok |
06:47:52 | JdGordon| | did you run rbutil as root? |
06:48:09 | tjb0607 | no |
06:48:13 | JdGordon| | do that |
06:49:48 | tjb0607 | still saying that the mountpoint is not writable |
06:50:03 | JdGordon| | what is? |
06:50:19 | tjb0607 | it could be that I've corrupted the RockBox install by unmounting it unproperly |
06:50:30 | tjb0607 | rbutil |
06:51:10 | tjb0607 | maybe I could try deleting the .rockbox folder after backing up my configurations? |
06:51:34 | JdGordon| | if it isnt writeable linux wont let you delete the folder |
06:51:44 | JdGordon| | did you run rbtuil as root? |
06:51:58 | tjb0607 | yes |
06:52:28 | tjb0607 | it only seems to say that after I try to install it and it fails extracting |
06:53:38 | tjb0607 | rm: cannot remove `./.rockbox/*': Read-only file system |
06:54:13 | JdGordon| | if not even root can write its a corrupt filesystem and you need to run fsck |
06:56:33 | tjb0607 | how can I tell where my SD player is located? |
07:00 |
07:01:41 | tjb0607 | if I use lsusb it says "Bus 001 Device 034: ID 0781:7441 SanDisk Corp." |
07:02:03 | tjb0607 | where do I fsck? |
07:02:18 | JdGordon| | what does "mount" say |
07:03:09 | tjb0607 | that worked "/dev/sdb1 on /media/SD PLAYER type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks,uid=1000,gid=100,shortname=mixed,dmask=0077,utf8=1,showexec)" |
07:03:44 | [Saint] | just do "fsck -A" if you really can't be arsed tracking down the mountpoint. It will walk through fstab and go through all mountpoints it finds. |
07:09:02 | tjb0607 | "There are differences between boot sector and its backup." "1) Copy original to backup" "2) Copy backup to original" "3) No action" |
07:10:23 | tjb0607 | what do I choose? |
07:13:14 | | Join ChickeNES [0] (HydraIRC@99-133-145-177.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net) |
07:13:34 | tjb0607 | I did fsck -a and it gave me "Unable to create unique name" |
07:14:07 | tjb0607 | and a bunch of files contained free clusters so it assumed EOF |
07:15:48 | tjb0607 | and it did nothing |
07:18:31 | JdGordon| | format the drive |
07:18:33 | JdGordon| | simplest fix |
07:18:43 | [Saint] | [17:02] <[Saint]> just do "fsck -A" if you really can't be arsed tracking down the mountpoint. It will walk through fstab and go through all mountpoints it finds. |
07:18:53 | [Saint] | not "a", "A" |
07:19:20 | tjb0607 | when I do that it tries to do it to /dev/sda2 and warns me that it's mounted |
07:19:52 | tjb0607 | I'm doing sudo fsck -a /dev/sdb1 to automatically repair the partitions of it |
07:20:03 | tjb0607 | and it's not working |
07:20:29 | [Saint] | Then, as JdGordon| said....format the bastard. Simplest "fix" for FS corruption. |
07:21:01 | tjb0607 | ok, backing up the music right now |
07:21:48 | tjb0607 | whoa a lot of music got disappeared during the corruption :/ |
07:22:26 | tjb0607 | til not to unplug without unmounting properly :p |
07:30:24 | | Quit ageis (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) |
07:30:25 | tjb0607 | does formating the sansa e200 get rid of the original firmware? |
07:30:49 | [Saint] | No. |
07:30:56 | tjb0607 | ok good |
07:35:57 | tjb0607 | gparted: Input/output error during write on /dev/sdb |
07:36:08 | tjb0607 | wtf? |
07:38:39 | tjb0607 | it won't even let me format it |
07:41:15 | | Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@eng340.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu) |
07:51:07 | JdGordon| | are you using rockbox usb or sansa usb? |
07:52:13 | tjb0607 | sansa usb, rockbox won't start up properly |
07:52:27 | tjb0607 | due to said corruption |
07:54:57 | | Join wodz [0] (~wodz@87-206-240-131.dynamic.chello.pl) |
07:55:05 | JdGordon| | I want to say you need to do a full recovery, but others might have a better idea |
07:55:10 | JdGordon| | wodz: hey |
07:55:23 | wodz | tjb0607: there is a chance you are striked by linux ehci bug |
07:55:37 | tjb0607 | what's that? |
07:57:11 | wodz | tjb0607: It is rather well known that certain devices doesn't like ehci driver in linux. The only known solution so far is to force fallback to USB1.1 as this is handled by diferent part of the controller and has separate driver |
07:57:29 | wodz | Saidly linux developers seems to do nothing about it |
07:57:43 | tjb0607 | oh wow so I plug it in to another usb port and the permissions are fixed |
07:57:51 | tjb0607 | now to go back to updating rockbox |
07:58:13 | wodz | its about usb input/output errors, spurious usb resets and so on |
07:58:40 | tjb0607 | actually nope |
07:58:50 | tjb0607 | would rebooting fix it? |
07:59:18 | wodz | If this is the bug I am talking about - no |
08:00 |
08:00:38 | tjb0607 | my mp3 player worked before |
08:00:49 | tjb0607 | with my linux installation |
08:01:02 | tjb0607 | should it work on another linux desktop? |
08:02:38 | wodz | If it worked and didn't behaved erratically than this is not ehci thing. |
08:02:46 | tjb0607 | also, it mounts and reads the files fine but it can't make any changes to the files |
08:02:58 | wodz | tjb0607: Try to logout and login once more - sometimes this helps |
08:03:20 | | Quit tjb0607 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
08:04:22 | | Join tjb0607 [0] (~quassel@208-100-128-206.bendbroadband.com) |
08:04:59 | wodz | Anyone have a clue why changing bit with unknown meaning in register configuring clock dividers might influence only read speed of sdram and not write speed? |
08:05:37 | tjb0607 | that didn't do anything. Does loggin out/back in via kdm restart x? |
08:05:59 | wodz | dunno |
08:06:22 | [Saint] | it /should/ do... |
08:06:23 | | Quit tjb0607 (Remote host closed the connection) |
08:09:36 | | Join tjb0607 [0] (~quassel@208-100-128-206.bendbroadband.com) |
08:09:40 | | Join n1s [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/n1s) |
08:10:02 | | Quit powell14ski_ (Quit: powell14ski_) |
08:10:24 | tjb0607 | I rebooted and I'm trying again |
08:10:42 | tjb0607 | nope |
08:11:24 | wodz | one thing - is this drive SD card? |
08:11:30 | tjb0607 | yes |
08:11:42 | wodz | maybe it is simply locked by the switch? |
08:11:56 | tjb0607 | hold is off |
08:12:15 | tjb0607 | otherwise the rockbox boot loader would've halted the boot process |
08:12:28 | n1s | the switch on the card |
08:13:21 | tjb0607 | does locking it prevent the reading of files? |
08:14:10 | n1s | no |
08:14:16 | n1s | writing though |
08:14:55 | tjb0607 | ok because that's my problem |
08:15:03 | tjb0607 | lemme screw my mp3 player open |
08:15:32 | tjb0607 | after I find a smaller screwdriver |
08:17:09 | | Join JdGord [0] (~AndChat@58.108.85.101) |
08:17:14 | n1s | sorry but is it the internal storage that is not writeable? |
08:17:38 | tjb0607 | right |
08:17:51 | n1s | there's probably no switch on that |
08:18:52 | tjb0607 | yeah all there is is a battery |
08:21:34 | | Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) |
08:22:15 | amiconn | Doesn't linux mount filesystems read only if it finds errors? I'd do an fsck |
08:22:25 | [Saint] | It does, yeah. |
08:24:11 | n1s | amiconn: yeah but the device node is read only too apparenlty |
08:25:18 | n1s | tjb0607: does dmesg say anything interesting about it? |
08:30:47 | | Quit tjb0607 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
08:31:54 | | Join tjb0607 [0] (~quassel@208-100-128-206.bendbroadband.com) |
08:32:14 | tjb0607 | I think it fixed itself |
08:32:25 | | Quit JdGord (Quit: Bye) |
08:32:27 | tjb0607 | I was able to successfully install rockbox |
08:32:48 | n1s | siunds like something is fishy |
08:34:22 | | Join Zagor [242] (~bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) |
08:34:46 | tjb0607 | but rockbox still isnt' booting... |
08:36:11 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
08:36:38 | | Quit bluefoxx (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) |
08:37:20 | tjb0607 | apparently I had permissions for a while after I mounted it, I was able to create a folder, but now I don't have permissions. |
08:38:50 | | Join bluefoxx [0] (fuzzylomba@S0106e0cb4e0a6d8a.vs.shawcable.net) |
08:39:03 | tjb0607 | [ 1701.766047] FAT-fs (sdb1): error, fat_get_cluster: invalid cluster chain (i_pos 440540) |
08:39:03 | tjb0607 | [ 1701.766051] FAT-fs (sdb1): Filesystem has been set read-only |
08:41:33 | tjb0607 | and then gparted gives "Error fsyncing/closing /dev/sdb: Input/output error" |
08:41:55 | tjb0607 | when I try reformating |
08:46:13 | evilnick | [Saint]: Some feedback on your theme; 1) Why does the Next Track text change from bold to non-bold depending on whether AA is present? 2) The highlight on the Context menu icon looks different to that on the Quickscreen menu icon 3) Can the volume icon change to something different on mute? |
08:46:37 | tjb0607 | I guess I'll try reformatting it in windows 7, but I doubt that will work |
08:46:50 | tjb0607 | who knows |
08:47:02 | | Quit tjb0607 (Remote host closed the connection) |
08:47:50 | | Quit ChickeNES (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) |
08:48:51 | | Join nick-p [0] (~nick@82-69-105-120.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) |
08:53:25 | | Join tjb0607 [0] (~quassel@208-100-128-206.bendbroadband.com) |
08:54:07 | tjb0607 | well windows didn't even let me use my wireless card |
08:54:09 | tjb0607 | :p |
08:55:20 | | Join ender` [0] (~ender@foo.eternallybored.org) |
08:57:14 | tjb0607 | I could try my brother's computer |
09:00 |
09:03:12 | tjb0607 | nope same problem |
09:03:48 | | Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) |
09:04:18 | | Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) |
09:06:10 | | Quit CaptainKewl (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) |
09:06:16 | | Quit simonlnu (Read error: Operation timed out) |
09:06:49 | tjb0607 | is there something else I could try other than gparted to reformat my sansa e260 that might not give an i/o error? |
09:09:27 | | Quit Keripo (Quit: Leaving.) |
09:10:07 | n1s | tjb0607: it sounds like a hw issue to me |
09:10:15 | tjb0607 | yeah |
09:10:25 | tjb0607 | is there anything else I could do? |
09:10:41 | n1s | IIRC the e200 has the flash memory on a daughter board, and some people have reported reseating it has fixed weird problems |
09:10:54 | n1s | so perhaps try that? |
09:11:12 | tjb0607 | how can I reset it? |
09:11:35 | evilnick | It wouldn't hurt to try that, but that usually fixes the 'black screen and glowing ring of light' issue |
09:11:51 | n1s | reseat, unplug, plug in |
09:11:53 | evilnick | tjb0607: Reseat, not reset. |
09:12:26 | tjb0607 | how can I do that? |
09:12:47 | evilnick | unscrew the back of the sansa and use your fingers! |
09:13:17 | evilnick | There are (probably) pictures on the Wiki about this |
09:16:52 | | Join HaimN [0] (~HaimN@31.44.130.194) |
09:17:04 | | Quit HaimN (Remote host closed the connection) |
09:17:22 | | Join HaimN [0] (~HaimN@31.44.130.194) |
09:18:10 | tjb0607 | http://i.imgur.com/S5nIy.jpg What do I do from here? |
09:19:11 | [Saint] | Push hard on the smaller rectangle in the black bit. |
09:19:26 | n1s | tjb0607: actually unscrew the back, probably remove the battery first |
09:19:28 | [Saint] | not *too* hard, though ;) |
09:19:52 | n1s | check under the battery fro screws |
09:20:05 | [Saint] | n1s: I didn't think that was necessary... |
09:20:20 | n1s | [Saint]: i don't know but there could be screws there! |
09:20:20 | [Saint] | perhaps I'm thinking of another player model, hmmm. |
09:20:34 | [Saint] | No, I mean removing the battery at all. |
09:20:51 | n1s | tjb0607: there are pictures and videos on the internet of this and they are probably better than our guessing |
09:21:08 | Bagder | http://daniel.haxx.se/sansa/e200-devboard.html <= that's how it looks below the cover |
09:21:13 | [Saint] | I thought it just needed to push on the back rubber bit immediately under the case backing. |
09:21:29 | Bagder | (apart from an extra cable on those pics) |
09:23:01 | tjb0607 | so what do I do? |
09:23:04 | | Join simonlnu [0] (G54TvYsAZH@unaffiliated/simonrvn) |
09:23:35 | tjb0607 | I pushed the black rubber bit but it didn't seem to do anything |
09:24:11 | | Quit Scr0mple (Quit: Leaving) |
09:24:13 | | Quit HaimN (Quit: Leaving) |
09:24:51 | | Join HaimN [0] (~HaimN@31.44.130.194) |
09:24:59 | tjb0607 | yeah that did nothing |
09:27:55 | tjb0607 | I was able to install rockbox by unmounting and mounting repeatedly |
09:28:15 | n1s | tjb0607: installing rockbox is unliekly to fix this |
09:29:09 | | Quit ReimuHakurei_ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) |
09:29:57 | tjb0607 | it at least fixes my rockbox problem |
09:30:15 | | Join ReimuHakurei [0] (~kudo@wireless.sit-co.net) |
09:32:39 | tjb0607 | and I'm now able to write to the internal storage device |
09:33:52 | tjb0607 | but after like 20 seconds of it being mounted the access is denied |
09:34:09 | tjb0607 | or me trying to delete the corrupt .rockbox folder from the trash |
09:34:53 | tjb0607 | but thanks to rockbox I can delete it without having to worry about unmounting stuff |
09:36:10 | tjb0607 | I think it's mostly fixed |
09:36:58 | tjb0607 | yeah I can do whatever and there's no I/O errors or anything |
09:37:17 | tjb0607 | idk what I did but it works |
09:38:56 | tjb0607 | did anything wps-related get changed last update? |
09:40:04 | | Join ReimuHakurei_ [0] (~kudo@wireless.sit-co.net) |
09:41:26 | tjb0607 | nope it's just that my background image got half corrupted |
09:41:57 | | Quit ReimuHakurei (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) |
09:42:35 | | Join ReimuHakurei [0] (~kudo@wireless.sit-co.net) |
09:43:47 | tjb0607 | ok so apparently it *didn't* get fixed |
09:44:29 | tjb0607 | I just have to unmount and remount to write to it :p |
09:44:54 | | Join Kudo-san [0] (~kudo@wireless.sit-co.net) |
09:45:17 | | Quit ReimuHakurei_ (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
09:46:10 | tjb0607 | I guess it's good for now, maybe tomorrow I can get it to stop with the read-only problem. For now, bedtime. |
09:48:01 | | Quit ReimuHakurei (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) |
09:48:26 | | Join Challapradyumna [0] (~Pradyumna@117.197.219.153) |
09:49:37 | | Join ReimuHakurei [0] (~kudo@wireless.sit-co.net) |
09:51:37 | | Quit Kudo-san (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) |
09:53:26 | | Join ReimuHakurei_ [0] (~kudo@wireless.sit-co.net) |
09:55:47 | | Quit ReimuHakurei (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) |
09:56:38 | | Join mudd1 [0] (~cmertes@ip-78-94-202-227.unitymediagroup.de) |
10:00 |
10:21:31 | | Quit ReimuHakurei_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
10:21:45 | | Join ReimuHakurei_ [0] (~kudo@wireless.sit-co.net) |
10:27:37 | | Join ReimuHakurei [0] (~kudo@wireless.sit-co.net) |
10:30:32 | | Quit ReimuHakurei_ (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) |
10:36:15 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
10:37:53 | | Quit ReimuHakurei (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
10:38:30 | | Join ReimuHakurei [0] (~kudo@wireless.sit-co.net) |
10:47:14 | | Quit ReimuHakurei (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) |
10:49:44 | | Join TheLemonMan [0] (~LemonBoy@ppp-170-54.26-151.libero.it) |
10:58:12 | | Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.5) |
11:00 |
11:02:11 | | Join casainho [0] (~chatzilla@2.81.155.140) |
11:03:56 | | Quit [Saint] (Quit: Imagination is for turbo-nerds who can't handle how kick-butt reality is. I'm a kick-butt reality master! I would rather die, than be imaginative. I mean that.) |
11:06:34 | | Join NicolasMonroy [0] (~8d465195@giant.haxx.se) |
11:06:36 | | Join [Saint] [0] (~st.lasciv@119.224.108.127) |
11:08:55 | NicolasMonroy | Hi guys, anyone who could add me to the CFmodguide? I would like to post a success with my ipod |
11:21:35 | | Quit casainho (Remote host closed the connection) |
11:26:50 | | Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) |
11:41:36 | | Quit NicolasMonroy (Quit: CGI:IRC) |
12:00 |
12:02:37 | [Saint] | bluebrother: Ping? |
12:02:47 | | Quit neferty (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
12:03:22 | [Saint] | Would it be too much to ask for you to build me one of your "AA in Notification Area" RaaA .APKs? |
12:04:29 | | Join neferty [0] (~andor@173.242.127.201) |
12:09:50 | | Quit Challapradyumna (Quit: Bye Bye) |
12:13:19 | | Quit HaimN (Remote host closed the connection) |
12:25:46 | | Quit evilnick (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
12:29:27 | | Join God_Eater [0] (93722cd1@rockbox/staff/GodEater) |
12:30:31 | | Join evilnick [0] (~evilnick@5acc2b53.bb.sky.com) |
12:30:31 | | Quit evilnick (Changing host) |
12:30:31 | | Join evilnick [0] (~evilnick@rockbox/staff/evilnick) |
12:36:18 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
12:56:39 | | Join Jerom1 [0] (~jerome@79.132.42.100) |
12:59:52 | | Quit evilnick (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) |
13:00 |
13:00:11 | | Join evilnick [0] (~evilnick@5adce979.bb.sky.com) |
13:00:11 | | Quit evilnick (Changing host) |
13:00:11 | | Join evilnick [0] (~evilnick@rockbox/staff/evilnick) |
13:02:33 | | Part nick-p ("Leaving") |
13:18:12 | | Quit Jerom1 (Quit: Leaving.) |
13:21:06 | | Quit evilnick (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) |
13:57:19 | | Join Pradyumna [0] (~Pradyumna@117.197.219.153) |
14:00 |
14:06:53 | | Join LinusN [0] (~linus@giant.haxx.se) |
14:12:12 | | Join nick-p [0] (~nick@82-69-105-120.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) |
14:18:48 | | Join TheLemonMan [0] (~LemonBoy@ppp-170-54.26-151.libero.it) |
14:23:20 | | Join Challapradyumna [0] (~Pradyumna@117.197.219.153) |
14:26:21 | | Quit Pradyumna (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) |
14:27:20 | | Join funman [0] (~fun@rockbox/developer/funman) |
14:29:43 | | Quit scorche|sh (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) |
14:35:28 | amiconn | Zagor, gevaerts: There seems to be a problem with the build system's 'calculated speed'. If a host errors out early because of local problems, numbers get way too high |
14:36:19 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
14:36:27 | amiconn | See kugel-x-kugel in r30399..30404 |
14:37:02 | Zagor | odd... |
14:46:52 | kugel | does the build system hand out builds at random? |
14:47:32 | kugel | I think it would be good if it handed out builds that the client did already recently (in reverse order) to exploit ccache, if it doesn't already |
14:50:09 | Zagor | it's not random, it's matched to the client speed |
14:50:34 | Zagor | but no, there is no consideration for possible past builds |
14:50:43 | gevaerts | kugel: that would have the annoying side effect of possibly hiding problems for longer |
14:51:21 | kugel | gevaerts: I can't follow |
14:51:44 | Bagder | for cases where a particular build client goes bad on a specific build |
14:53:04 | kugel | but why "hiding problems"? |
14:53:44 | | Join lebellium [0] (~chatzilla@i02m-212-194-176-149.d4.club-internet.fr) |
14:54:13 | | Quit lebellium (Client Quit) |
14:54:57 | gevaerts | Suppose you have three clients that can do a particular build, one of which has a different toolchain version (assume this is a sim build where that's allowed). If you add client stickyness, the one with the different toolchain will never do that build (unless it got it first), which means you won't ever see possible problems with it |
14:55:31 | gevaerts | See e.g. the saga of the mr100 sim, Zagor's build client, and the unused variable |
14:56:08 | gevaerts | ah, amiconn's machine now also shows that problem |
14:58:00 | kugel | gevaerts: well, the build system isn't about spotting toolchain problems is it? it's about spotting build failures we introduce with commits |
14:58:18 | gevaerts | kugel: this isn't a toolchain problem really |
14:58:41 | gevaerts | The variable really is unused, it's just that only a few toolchain versions actually report it |
15:00 |
15:04:40 | kugel | gevaerts: that can happen now too |
15:06:12 | kugel | e.g. the player sim build has a few warnings but isn't build by strong machines with recent compilers |
15:07:23 | kugel | instead it's always build by bXX-roolku because it's a low-end build, which doesn't spot the warnings |
15:10:13 | kugel | so, a) it wasn't a problem back when the client speed consideration was added, and b) wouldn't be newly introduced with this idea |
15:10:52 | Zagor | no, but it would be worsened. because we would lock each target to machines, instead of exercising them between multiple |
15:23:41 | | Quit user890104 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
15:24:10 | | Join user890104 [0] (~Venci@6bez10.info) |
15:37:19 | | Join benedikt93 [0] (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) |
15:55:55 | | Part LinusN |
16:00 |
16:02:16 | | Join domonoky [0] (~Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) |
16:03:03 | | Quit antil33t (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
16:03:23 | | Join antil33t [0] (~antil33t@203-100-223-143.callplus.net.nz) |
16:08:36 | | Join y4n [0] (y4n@unaffiliated/y4ndexx) |
16:12:19 | tjb0607 | http://i.imgur.com/7y9p3.png progress on my smART based Minecraft theme :D |
16:12:51 | [Saint] | heh. |
16:18:35 | | Quit Bagder (Quit: Konversation terminated!) |
16:19:23 | [Saint] | Nice, the volume and battery icons should be "blocks", the build into the image when the value increases/decreases. |
16:19:32 | [Saint] | s/the/that/ |
16:20:10 | tjb0607 | the volume is the piston |
16:22:06 | tjb0607 | I'm thinking of using a redstone repeater for the battery power |
16:22:07 | [Saint] | It would be nice if the state icons were aligned properly with the "inventory" boxes. |
16:22:20 | tjb0607 | yeah I haven't worked much on that yet |
16:22:25 | tjb0607 | I plan to |
16:23:17 | * | [Saint] nods. |
16:24:14 | [Saint] | Put me on your list of people to bug if you get stuck, if you want. I wouldn't call myself a theme guru, but, I do alright ;) |
16:24:55 | | Quit antil33t (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
16:25:06 | tjb0607 | ok |
16:25:17 | | Join antil33t [0] (~antil33t@203-100-223-143.callplus.net.nz) |
16:26:26 | [Saint] | What's the licensing for minecraft images...you've looked into this? |
16:27:10 | [Saint] | Its fine if you're recreating everything from scratch, but if you're taking images directly, you'll want to look into if the license is compatible. |
16:27:40 | [Saint] | Good job, btw. I think it'll be quite cool when its completed. |
16:28:14 | | Quit mgue (Read error: Operation timed out) |
16:30:00 | tjb0607 | "You're free to do whatever you want with screenshots and videos of the game, but don't just rip art resources and pass them around, that's no fun." |
16:30:48 | [Saint] | it appears to be CC-SA |
16:31:13 | [Saint] | (from a brief googlin' session) |
16:32:14 | | Join mgue [0] (~mgue@p5DDA2D5D.dip.t-dialin.net) |
16:36:22 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
16:43:58 | God_Eater | I don't see notch being too upset by a minecraft theme for rockbox |
16:46:23 | tjb0607 | I should probably fix the hardware problem on my mp3 player before working on the theme |
16:47:02 | | Quit antil33t (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
16:47:22 | tjb0607 | it's not letting me write, reformat, or do anything but read my mp3 player's internal storage |
16:47:25 | | Join antil33t [0] (~antil33t@203-100-223-143.callplus.net.nz) |
16:48:35 | [Saint] | ....perhaps its run out of free blocks to remap, and thus, shat itself? |
16:49:10 | [Saint] | if you can read from it, you should be able to see whats going on with a disk utility. |
16:50:03 | tjb0607 | the storage is 97% full |
16:50:23 | [Saint] | irrelevant |
16:51:18 | tjb0607 | I've tried fsck and it didn't fix anything |
16:51:20 | | Quit Challapradyumna (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) |
16:52:07 | [Saint] | it can't, if it can't write to the disk. |
16:52:47 | tjb0607 | it does say when I do fsck that a lot of files contain "free clusters" |
16:53:01 | tjb0607 | so it assumes EOF |
16:53:13 | tjb0607 | Free cluster summary wrong (35207 vs. really 78830) |
16:53:19 | tjb0607 | not really sure what that means |
16:53:32 | Torne | that's very common; it means you aven't been unmounting it cleanly, mostly |
16:53:48 | Torne | the fsinfo sector's free space count is wrong, which normally means you unplugged the device before the OS got around to updating that |
16:54:12 | tjb0607 | yeah I unplugged it improperly and ever since it's been screwed up |
16:54:51 | tjb0607 | it was after updating rockbox so it was writing to a lot of files at the time |
16:55:01 | | Quit petur (Quit: *plop*) |
16:55:16 | Torne | anyway, it sounds like your fs is corrupt |
16:55:26 | Torne | what actual fsck command are you running to fix it? |
16:55:38 | tjb0607 | just fsck <device> |
16:55:59 | Torne | That doesn't actually fix anything |
16:56:04 | Torne | That just tells you about the errors. |
16:56:16 | Torne | you need either -a or -r to fix automatically/manually :) |
16:56:18 | tjb0607 | I did fsck -a <device> and it didn't do anything |
16:56:36 | Torne | try with -r |
16:56:51 | Torne | Once you do it there shoudl be no more errors being reported |
16:56:59 | Torne | if it's still saying those things above every time then it's not fixing it |
16:58:17 | Torne | pastebin the complete fsck output |
16:58:24 | Torne | if you want me to see :) |
16:59:40 | tjb0607 | http://pastebin.com/LFhy6ftW |
17:00 |
17:01:27 | tjb0607 | and now when I turn my mp3 player on it goes to the rockbox boot loader and says "no partition found" and shuts off |
17:01:48 | Torne | You just destroyed your fs |
17:02:04 | Torne | When it warned you that there were differences between the boot sector and the backup.. the backup is all zeros |
17:02:12 | Torne | and you chose to copy the backup :) |
17:02:18 | Torne | so, now your boot sector is all zeros. |
17:02:20 | tjb0607 | oh... :p |
17:02:33 | Torne | anyway, your fs is totally hosed |
17:02:43 | Torne | it was anyway |
17:02:45 | Torne | now it's more so :) |
17:02:46 | tjb0607 | ok |
17:02:50 | Torne | format |
17:03:20 | tjb0607 | how can I format it if it doesn't connect to my computer? :p |
17:03:25 | Torne | huh? |
17:03:28 | Torne | it is connected to your computer |
17:03:33 | Torne | otherwise how can you fsck it? |
17:03:48 | tjb0607 | I rebooted it and now it's not connecting |
17:04:06 | Torne | Right, because you just destroyed the fs and now there's no rockbox to load |
17:04:06 | tjb0607 | so now I basically can't do anything |
17:04:13 | Torne | boot the original firmware |
17:04:24 | Torne | what device is this? |
17:04:33 | tjb0607 | sansa e260 |
17:05:03 | Torne | right. boot the original firmware, then, and connect it |
17:05:26 | tjb0607 | the boot loader doesn't even want to boot to the original firmware |
17:05:31 | | Part Zagor |
17:06:14 | Torne | huh |
17:06:42 | tjb0607 | all it's doing is turning on, and shutting right back off. |
17:07:57 | | Quit nick-p (Quit: Leaving) |
17:09:31 | tjb0607 | well my mp3 player was good while it lasted |
17:09:47 | tjb0607 | and now I know not to unplug before unmounting properly |
17:09:57 | Torne | i don't think this should be able to brick the device |
17:10:07 | Torne | i don't have a sansa, though |
17:10:08 | jacekowski | tjb0607: what happened |
17:10:12 | jacekowski | tjb0607: that shouldn't cause any problems |
17:10:18 | jacekowski | tjb0607: have you tried formatting it possibly |
17:10:45 | tjb0607 | When I turn my mp3 player on it will shut right back off, and won't even let me connect to the computer |
17:10:58 | tjb0607 | because no firmware is loading |
17:11:07 | Torne | tjb0607: well, what you should've done was 1) not pick options randomly in fsck and 2) not reboot the device until you knew you had fixed it |
17:11:11 | Torne | :) |
17:11:13 | Torne | unfortunately ;) |
17:11:41 | Torne | if fsck managed to write to it to fix/break it, then you could also have just formatted it at that time |
17:12:32 | Torne | anyway. i'm somewhat surprised the OF isn't willing to boot, but it'd take someone more familiar with the pp sansas to know if that's reasonable/recoverable |
17:13:21 | | Quit antil33t (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
17:13:44 | | Join antil33t [0] (~antil33t@203-100-223-143.callplus.net.nz) |
17:16:17 | | Quit merbanan (Remote host closed the connection) |
17:18:36 | tjb0607 | I wonder if there's a way to reset the memory from opening the mp3 player and doing something |
17:19:38 | jacekowski | jtag |
17:20:03 | tjb0607 | nope, no hard reset feature |
17:24:33 | tjb0607 | time to bid for a new one on ebay |
17:27:56 | | Quit domonoky (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
17:30:00 | gevaerts | tjb0607: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaE200Unbrick |
17:30:37 | Torne | gevaerts: do those devices store their firmware on the filesystem, then? |
17:31:08 | gevaerts | tjb0607: make sure you follow the instructions though, and ask if something's not clear. It *is* possible to make things worse if you do things wrong |
17:31:30 | gevaerts | Torne: no, but they are rather braindead |
17:31:34 | Torne | ah |
17:32:01 | gevaerts | Torne: the c200 e.g. (the e200 is a bit better) believes the FAT superblock to guess the size of the device |
17:32:10 | Torne | Oh |
17:32:13 | Torne | fun |
17:32:15 | gevaerts | Which is fun if people format it as ntfs :) |
17:32:33 | gevaerts | Or if you're me and make USB code read from the SD card and write to internal flash |
17:32:51 | Torne | haha |
17:33:20 | gevaerts | Actually, I'm not sure if the e200 is better in that respect, but at least it has the .fmt trick in recovery mode |
17:35:53 | tjb0607 | there is a VERSION.TXT file in the partition. I've put the .mi4 file on it and reset it. |
17:37:54 | tjb0607 | That didn't work. Time to format. |
17:38:18 | gevaerts | tjb0607: you mean the "sansa.fmt" trick I hope? |
17:39:09 | tjb0607 | I got a PP5022.mi4 and dragged it into the device |
17:39:41 | tjb0607 | I didn't have one so I downloaded it from here http://daniel.haxx.se/sansa/mi4.html |
17:40:16 | * | gevaerts nods |
17:40:17 | tjb0607 | yes, the sansa.fmt trick next |
17:41:01 | gevaerts | ok |
17:41:32 | gevaerts | Just making sure you weren't about to format the recovery partition. That can be disastrous |
17:41:57 | tjb0607 | I'm following the instructions very carefully :) |
17:44:02 | tjb0607 | ok, so there's the VERSION.TXT, PP5022.mi4, and the sansa.fmt |
17:44:13 | tjb0607 | I disconnect the device |
17:44:26 | tjb0607 | and it's now formatting |
17:44:52 | tjb0607 | *Thank God I backed up my music and theme I'm working on* |
17:45:18 | tjb0607 | it finished and is now resetting the system |
17:46:07 | tjb0607 | that didn't work either. Now to restore the bootloader. |
17:47:09 | gevaerts | Hm |
17:47:47 | gevaerts | I sometimes suspect that the e200 needs matching firmware and bootloader, but apart from that if recovery mode works the bootloader should be fine |
17:48:10 | | Quit wtachi (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) |
17:49:48 | tjb0607 | when I try to turn it on it says "Load to main image failed" "Switch to Recovery mode |
17:51:23 | tjb0607 | do I need to rename the bootloader rom to anything special? |
17:51:39 | tjb0607 | it's currently BL_SD_boardSupportSD.rom |
17:51:46 | gevaerts | I think that's fine |
17:51:49 | tjb0607 | ok |
17:51:55 | | Quit y4n (Disconnected by services) |
17:52:02 | | Join y4n [0] (y4n@unaffiliated/y4ndexx) |
17:53:16 | tjb0607 | I unplugged it and it immediately shut off. I'll try doing it again. |
17:53:34 | | Quit mgue (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
17:53:39 | gevaerts | Did you unmount the recovery partition properly? |
17:54:01 | tjb0607 | yes |
17:54:40 | tjb0607 | it's only turning on when I plug it in |
17:55:03 | | Join mgue [0] (~mgue@p5DDA3FD7.dip.t-dialin.net) |
17:55:27 | gevaerts | But recovery mode works then? |
17:55:46 | tjb0607 | yes |
17:56:27 | * | gevaerts can't remember now where the bootloader is stored and if these symptoms might match the "flash chip comes lose" problem :\ |
17:56:58 | tjb0607 | oh now it's working |
17:57:11 | tjb0607 | I unplugged and repluged the battery |
17:57:37 | gevaerts | While you have it open, maybe check the flash chip |
17:57:59 | gevaerts | You should be able to see a black square somewhere. Make sure that's fully pushed down |
17:58:46 | tjb0607 | I pushed it down earlier today |
17:58:58 | tjb0607 | ok I restored the bootloader |
17:59:24 | tjb0607 | STILL not working.. |
18:00 |
18:00:06 | gevaerts | Did you restore just the bootloader, or did you use all three of the .rom, .mi4, and .fmt files? |
18:00:08 | tjb0607 | huh |
18:00:32 | tjb0607 | I copied the rom and the mi4 then I created the empty .fmt yeah |
18:00:43 | gevaerts | ok |
18:00:57 | gevaerts | That should have been fine |
18:02:45 | tjb0607 | and the mi4 files for the e200 should work with the e260 right? |
18:03:00 | gevaerts | yes. e200 is the entire series |
18:03:19 | tjb0607 | ok just making sure |
18:05:07 | tjb0607 | recovery mode prints constantly "LUN0 unlocked" "LUN0 locked" |
18:05:25 | tjb0607 | does that mean anything? |
18:05:50 | gevaerts | That means you're mounting and unmounting it, or udev is having a look |
18:05:59 | gevaerts | so no, nothing very interesting |
18:07:42 | gevaerts | I think I'd try reseating the flash chip again, but I really don't know. I don't remember ever hearing of an e200 behaving like this |
18:08:21 | tjb0607 | so under the metal cover it's the little rubber rectangle above the battery, I push that right? |
18:08:44 | gevaerts | yes |
18:08:58 | tjb0607 | ok so I did that |
18:09:27 | tjb0607 | what is that supposed to do? |
18:10:15 | gevaerts | The flash chip (or daughterboard? Not sure now...) in the e200 is removable and tends to come lose |
18:10:55 | tjb0607 | ahh |
18:11:16 | bluebrother | [Saint]: pong |
18:14:03 | [Saint] | bluebrother: Are you able to make a build for me with your AA in notification area implementation, pretty please? |
18:14:26 | [Saint] | 240x320 portrait. If you'd be so kind. |
18:14:49 | tjb0607 | I did the bootloader restore trick again after reseating it, and when I turn it on, it shows the SanDisk loader for a while, then says "Load main image failed" "Switch to Recovery mode" |
18:15:37 | tjb0607 | restoring the bootloader doesn't give any errors |
18:16:07 | bluebrother | [Saint]: I've ran into another problem −− it doesn't work anymore after rebasing to current svn :( |
18:16:20 | [Saint] | Aaaaaaawww :-S |
18:16:25 | gevaerts | Maybe try just the .fmt and .mi4 again, without the .rom? Which files did you download exactly? |
18:16:28 | [Saint] | Bummer. |
18:16:31 | bluebrother | I'm currently bisecting the vorbis playback issue, will check that afterwards |
18:16:46 | bluebrother | I can post a patch somewhere if you want to try it youself |
18:16:56 | [Saint] | bluebrother: Ok, that's cool...no rush. |
18:17:08 | tjb0607 | http://daniel.haxx.se/sansa/mi4.html the fourth one down on this list thanks to lgianasi |
18:17:10 | [Saint] | bluebrother: No build environment set up presently. |
18:17:20 | bluebrother | it's really annoying, I wanted to get that committed :/ |
18:17:49 | [Saint] | bluebrother: Indeed, it's a damn cool idea. |
18:18:21 | bluebrother | I'm wondering if it's useful on small screens. Since the AA gets downscaled quite a bit on those |
18:18:44 | [Saint] | bluebrother: Have you checked out my theme on the tracker? |
18:19:20 | [Saint] | Re: Small screens and AA, I wouldn't see why not. Google Music beta does it, and even though the AA is tiny, its still recognizable. |
18:19:39 | tjb0607 | maybe I could try a different one? |
18:19:55 | bluebrother | not yet. I'm planning to give that a look this weekend |
18:20:05 | [Saint] | coolies. |
18:20:17 | * | bluebrother wonders why the system doesn't find the compiler after updating the NDK |
18:20:22 | gevaerts | tjb0607: yes, always worth a try |
18:20:32 | gevaerts | I'll see what happens if I try this on my e200 |
18:20:40 | bluebrother | maybe I should reboot that machine, it's running since quite a while now ;-) |
18:22:47 | bluebrother | does anyone else have this vorbis playback extremely soft issue? |
18:23:49 | tjb0607 | still getting the same issue |
18:24:06 | tjb0607 | with a different mi4 |
18:24:25 | tjb0607 | onse more |
18:27:23 | gevaerts | Does it say "writing main image" at some point? |
18:28:12 | tjb0607 | yes |
18:28:36 | tjb0607 | it says formatting, reading main image, writing main image, then rebooting. |
18:29:08 | gevaerts | Then is has to work! |
18:29:10 | tjb0607 | then load main image failed when it tries to boot back up |
18:29:28 | CIA-14 | New commit by jethead71 (r30409): Sanify dsp.c (re)sample buffer indirection. |
18:29:37 | gevaerts | Unless the flash chip has a problem |
18:30:04 | tjb0607 | I'm guessing by now that it probably does |
18:31:29 | gevaerts | Or maybe the e200 somehow suffers from the same issue as the c200 and the .fmt file doesn't fully clean everything |
18:31:48 | tjb0607 | maybe |
18:32:41 | | Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) |
18:32:59 | * | gevaerts tries to convert the c200 fixing tool to the e200 |
18:33:31 | CIA-14 | r30409 build result: All green |
18:36:25 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
18:36:46 | bluebrother | hmm. Forums down or is that just for me? |
18:37:48 | gevaerts | bluebrother: they're down |
18:38:20 | bluebrother | ok, thanks |
18:39:24 | tjb0607 | I guess since my sansa is bricked now I could release the beta of my Minecraft theme http://i.imgur.com/7y9p3.png |
18:40:41 | gevaerts | tjb0607: if you want to try one more thing, download gevaerts/erase.bin">http://www.evonet.be/~gevaerts/erase.bin and e200tool |
18:41:37 | bluebrother | wtf? Why is the playback issue gone now? |
18:42:07 | tjb0607 | I've never had a vorbis playback issue in RockBox |
18:44:46 | tjb0607 | gevaerts: ok, then do I follow the Manufacturing Mode instructions on the wiki? |
18:44:50 | gevaerts | then put the e200 in *manfacturer* mode (i.e. not recovery), plug it in, and run "sudo ./e200tool recover erase.bin". That should then start zeroing the start of the flash (I can't remember how much...) |
18:45:55 | gevaerts | After that, everything should at least be in a predictable state (requiring manufacturing mode). If formatting and recovering main firmware and bootloader then *still* don't work, I'd be fairly confident there's a hardware issue |
18:46:09 | gevaerts | Note that this will take a while to run |
18:48:14 | gevaerts | actually, the tool should install a working partition table and FAT, although they'll be too small (I copied the c240 code, which has 1GB) so redoing the .fmt thing still makes sense |
18:48:20 | tjb0607 | my mp3 player is saying "# kB left" a bunch |
18:48:23 | | Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@p57B57D57.dip.t-dialin.net) |
18:48:23 | | Quit Horscht (Changing host) |
18:48:23 | | Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) |
18:48:28 | gevaerts | ok, it's running then |
18:48:41 | gevaerts | It may be hard to spot, but the numbers are changing |
18:49:09 | tjb0607 | yeah |
18:49:21 | tjb0607 | it's getting lower very slowly |
18:49:30 | tjb0607 | it's at 105664 |
18:50:07 | gevaerts | On re-reading the code I actually think the displayed numbers are wrong. The erasing should still work though |
18:50:17 | tjb0607 | ok |
18:51:21 | | Quit Horschti (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) |
18:58:00 | | Join toffe82 [0] (~chatzilla@maf.wirelesstcp.net) |
19:00 |
19:00:56 | | Quit simonlnu (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
19:02:21 | tjb0607 | it's almost done |
19:02:28 | | Join simonlnu [0] (RqiYHvDGJG@unaffiliated/simonrvn) |
19:02:34 | tjb0607 | it's done |
19:03:10 | gevaerts | OK. Now you'll need "regular" manufacturing mode recovery, i.e. sudo ./e200tool recover BL_SD_boardSupportSD.rom |
19:04:20 | tjb0607 | it's in recovery mode now |
19:05:20 | gevaerts | Good. Now copy BL_SD_boardSupportSD.rom PP5022.mi4 there and create the .fmt file |
19:05:28 | gevaerts | Then unmount, and hope... |
19:06:13 | tjb0607 | ok |
19:06:58 | | Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) |
19:07:34 | tjb0607 | it's frozen at the SanDisk logo |
19:08:03 | bertrik | Who's our resident AMS dualboot.S expert? |
19:08:16 | gevaerts | Totally frozen? It stayed there a while for me |
19:08:50 | tjb0607 | It responds to the shutdown signal and plays the goodbye animation, didn't do that before |
19:09:07 | tjb0607 | IT WORKS |
19:09:11 | gevaerts | Great! |
19:09:20 | tjb0607 | Thanks a TON |
19:09:25 | gevaerts | You're welcome |
19:09:30 | tjb0607 | :) |
19:09:33 | bertrik | My plan for the clipzip dualboot loader is to first simple branch to the decompressed OF and see if that works |
19:09:43 | * | gevaerts is slightly unhappy about the appearance of yet another failure mode though |
19:10:02 | | Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@p57B4DA3C.dip.t-dialin.net) |
19:10:11 | bertrik | next, add a delay at boot that depends on a button being pressed (so if the button code fails, it still boots the OF) |
19:10:29 | bertrik | finally, make the button decide whether to boot the OF or the rockbox bootloader |
19:10:32 | gevaerts | We didn't really *need* yet another way for sansas to be half-bricked |
19:11:27 | tjb0607 | so now that the sansa firmware loads properly, it's safe to install rockbox? |
19:11:33 | gevaerts | Should be, yes |
19:11:51 | tjb0607 | let's not be stupid this time and unmount it properly :p |
19:12:01 | | Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.5) |
19:12:13 | gevaerts | Don't ask rockbox utility to look for themes though, that's the same machine as the forums and it seems to be down at the moment |
19:12:15 | | Join PhotoRob [0] (~none@68-188-242-119.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) |
19:12:26 | bertrik | gevaerts, time to "brick" one of your sansas again to improve the recovery methods? :P |
19:12:47 | gevaerts | bertrik: I did try every single step here before telling tjb0607 about it :) |
19:14:42 | tjb0607 | The sansa firmware is loaded, it says it's connected to the computer, kde detects a device but it won't mount |
19:15:00 | tjb0607 | it says "Refresh database fail" when I disconnect the cord |
19:15:13 | gevaerts | tjb0607: it's probably still set to MTP |
19:15:24 | tjb0607 | how do I fix that? |
19:15:34 | gevaerts | settings->usb mode in the OF |
19:15:49 | gevaerts | You need MSC |
19:15:58 | tjb0607 | ok done |
19:20:42 | tjb0607 | I can't mount it still |
19:20:53 | tjb0607 | kde isn't even detecting it |
19:21:04 | tjb0607 | and there's no /dev/sdb |
19:21:14 | gevaerts | hm |
19:21:41 | gevaerts | Does settings -> info show the size? |
19:22:01 | tjb0607 | wait it has to restart. The boot takes quite a while |
19:23:16 | tjb0607 | Memory: 0 MB Free: 0 MB |
19:23:33 | gevaerts | Right... |
19:24:38 | gevaerts | Maybe try formatting from the recovery mode again? |
19:24:44 | tjb0607 | ok |
19:25:51 | tjb0607 | Do I put the .rom and .mi4 in too? |
19:26:20 | | Join ChickeNES [0] (~ChickeNES@rouxbicon.rh.uchicago.edu) |
19:26:24 | gevaerts | I suspect you have to, if you want things to still boot |
19:26:57 | tjb0607 | just making sure |
19:29:07 | tjb0607 | still 0 MB memory |
19:30:08 | gevaerts | I'm beginning to suspect that there's a hardware problem there... |
19:30:13 | tjb0607 | me too |
19:30:38 | bertrik | maybe your flash chip needs a push? |
19:30:47 | tjb0607 | I'll try again |
19:31:04 | gevaerts | bertrik: we've been through that, but also, the OF actually loads, so it does see the flash |
19:34:39 | tjb0607 | http://i.imgur.com/mwrzc.jpg |
19:35:17 | tjb0607 | would a microSDHC card help with anything? |
19:36:54 | bertrik | or maybe a newer OF version? |
19:40:35 | gevaerts | I'll try changing this tool to also verify writes |
19:45:05 | | Quit bluebrother (Disconnected by services) |
19:45:06 | | Join bluebroth3r [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) |
19:45:54 | | Join scorche|sh [0] (~scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) |
19:46:44 | | Quit fs-bluebot (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) |
19:47:42 | | Quit PhotoRob () |
19:47:51 | | Join fs-bluebot [0] (~fs-bluebo@g226068250.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
19:50:21 | | Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@eng054.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu) |
19:55:39 | | Quit neferty (Excess Flood) |
19:56:24 | | Join neferty [0] (~andor@173.242.127.201) |
19:58:21 | gevaerts | tjb0607: I've updated erase.bin (still at gevaerts/erase.bin">http://www.evonet.be/~gevaerts/erase.bin) to (a) provide correct counts, (b) erase the entire flash instead of a predetermined size, (c) write both nonzero and zero blocks and reading them back to check. |
19:58:34 | | Quit stoffel (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) |
19:58:43 | gevaerts | The end result will be a lot slower, but it should also tell you if there's an actual problem |
19:59:28 | gevaerts | It doesn't write a partition table and FAT superblock any more, so you will still need a full manufacturing mode recovery (the partition table wasn't really right for an e200 anyway...) |
20:00 |
20:00:33 | gevaerts | If there are problems, it will stop after the first one |
20:01:05 | tjb0607 | it's working |
20:01:36 | tjb0607 | this will take a while. |
20:01:46 | gevaerts | It will, yes |
20:02:30 | gevaerts | We don't boost in bootloader-derived code, so the CPU is only running at 24 or 30MHz, which is *slow*. I'd rather not touch that for this sort of thing though |
20:06:04 | tjb0607 | well it's 1/16 done so far :p |
20:09:28 | | Quit Keripo (Quit: Leaving.) |
20:09:28 | | Join Zagor [242] (~bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) |
20:09:50 | | Part Zagor |
20:11:27 | | Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@eng054.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu) |
20:16:07 | | Quit dunkaist (Quit: leaving) |
20:17:01 | | Join Zagor [0] (~bjst@46.35.227.87.static.tab.siw.siwnet.net) |
20:17:01 | | Quit Zagor (Changing host) |
20:17:01 | | Join Zagor [242] (~bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) |
20:30:10 | | Quit funman (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) |
20:36:27 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
20:36:31 | | Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@149.254.61.35) |
20:37:45 | bertrik | I put my sansa clipzip dualboot code up for review in FS #12255 |
20:37:46 | fs-bluebot | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12255 sansa clipzip: dualboot code for review (patches, new) |
20:42:25 | tjb0607 | 1/2 done |
20:44:50 | | Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) |
20:51:47 | | Quit robin0800 (Quit: Leaving) |
20:52:17 | | Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@149.254.61.232) |
20:52:30 | [Saint] | bluebroth3r: "the playback issue"? |
20:53:04 | [Saint] | Oh....you mean RaaA and random .ogg files? |
20:57:38 | gevaerts | Does anyone have a working e200v1 nearby? What's the size of the firmware partition? |
20:59:44 | bertrik | gevaerts, I have |
21:00 |
21:02:11 | gevaerts | bertrik: can you have a look at the partition sizes: |
21:02:12 | gevaerts | ? |
21:02:34 | bertrik | gevaerts, just boot the OF and have a look at dmesg, right? |
21:02:40 | gevaerts | yes |
21:02:45 | gevaerts | or rockbox, doesn't matter |
21:03:32 | bertrik | sorry, I don't know how to find out the size of the individual partitions, I see only the total in dmesg |
21:04:04 | gevaerts | cat /proc/partitions will tell you more |
21:04:21 | gevaerts | That's in 4K blocks, but that's fine |
21:05:13 | bertrik | fdisk -l /dev/sdb gives http://pastie.org/2472494 |
21:05:40 | | Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@207.144.201.128) |
21:06:04 | bertrik | cat /proc/partitions gives http://pastie.org/2472500 |
21:06:52 | gevaerts | OK, 20MB, same as on the c200 |
21:07:55 | * | gevaerts wonders if his code actually works.... |
21:08:05 | gevaerts | hm |
21:09:06 | gevaerts | Doesn't look like it does :\ |
21:12:59 | | Join dunkaist [0] (~dunkaist@217.197.7.195) |
21:13:12 | tjb0607 | which code? |
21:13:19 | | Join Xerion [0] (~xerion@5419A766.cm-5-2c.dynamic.ziggo.nl) |
21:13:33 | gevaerts | I'm adding code to do the partitioning and formatting to the recovery tool |
21:13:57 | gevaerts | Not really needed on the e200 since it has the .fmt system, but the c200 doesn't have that |
21:16:52 | | Quit robin0800 (Read error: Connection timed out) |
21:18:15 | tjb0607 | I'm at 7,500,000/7,854080 sectors |
21:18:48 | gevaerts | Time to get nervous! |
21:21:29 | tjb0607 | almost there... |
21:22:08 | tjb0607 | it's done |
21:22:56 | | Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@149.254.61.208) |
21:23:30 | tjb0607 | how do I get it out of manufacturer's mode? |
21:24:11 | gevaerts | Is hold still on? |
21:24:20 | gevaerts | Normally unplug and press a button |
21:24:46 | tjb0607 | I did that and when I turn it on it's in manufacturer's mode still |
21:25:17 | * | gevaerts nods |
21:25:41 | gevaerts | You now need to go back to recovery mode using e200tool, as described on SansaE200Unbrick |
21:25:59 | tjb0607 | ahh ok |
21:27:40 | tjb0607 | now I copy the bootloader and mi4 and make the fmt? |
21:28:32 | gevaerts | yes |
21:28:36 | tjb0607 | did that, formatting... |
21:29:01 | tjb0607 | done, resetting into OF |
21:29:40 | tjb0607 | settings>info>Memory: 3807 MB |
21:29:41 | tjb0607 | :D |
21:30:25 | gevaerts | Yay! |
21:30:35 | tjb0607 | it mounted |
21:30:48 | tjb0607 | I can edit files |
21:31:07 | gevaerts | OK, so I suppose my old wiping code was just buggy |
21:31:13 | tjb0607 | time to install rockbox! |
21:31:31 | gevaerts | Which wouldn't be a problem if the sansa recovery formatting code wasn't also buggy :) |
21:34:27 | tjb0607 | but rbutil is being weird and thinking the mountpoint doesn't have permissions, I guess I'll install manually |
21:38:39 | bluebroth3r | [Saint]: I mean RaaAA and _any_ of my ogg files (which otherwise play fine, f.e. on the Ipod) |
21:39:31 | tjb0607 | Actually I apparently needed to run it as root |
21:40:07 | [Saint] | *derp!* ;) |
21:40:25 | | Quit benedikt93 (Quit: Bye ;)) |
21:40:27 | tjb0607 | well dolphin was able to edit everything fine under my user! :p |
21:41:04 | gevaerts | you need raw partition access for the bootloader |
21:43:40 | tjb0607 | ahh that makes sense |
21:44:23 | tjb0607 | now time to put my backups back |
21:46:31 | | Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@p57B4DA3C.dip.t-dialin.net) |
21:51:41 | | Quit stoffel (Remote host closed the connection) |
21:57:30 | CIA-14 | New commit by bertrik (r30410): sansa clipzip: add lcd_brightness function (to be used later to set the 'backlight' brightness) |
21:59:35 | tjb0607 | now let's unplug it while it's writing and start this all over again! |
21:59:36 | tjb0607 | jk |
22:00 |
22:00:22 | tjb0607 | YAY! |
22:00:31 | tjb0607 | ROCKBOX! |
22:00:36 | tjb0607 | WORKING STORAGE DEVICE! |
22:01:44 | tjb0607 | thanks a ton gevaerts, you've made my school year bearable. :) |
22:02:03 | CIA-14 | r30410 build result: All green |
22:03:27 | | Quit robin0800 (Read error: Connection timed out) |
22:05:47 | kugel | bertrik: perhaps someone should test your code? |
22:06:06 | | Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@149.254.61.208) |
22:07:22 | bertrik | I plan to order a sansa clip zip once it becomes available for sale in my country and debug it then, I think it's not really possible to let someone else test/debug |
22:09:52 | CIA-14 | New commit by bertrik (r30411): sansa clipzip: annotate lcd registers |
22:10:59 | bertrik | I think the first real hurdle to take is to make dualboot work |
22:15:02 | | Join Highlander [0] (~Connor_Ma@mek33-4-82-236-45-205.fbx.proxad.net) |
22:15:16 | CIA-14 | r30411 build result: All green |
22:16:55 | | Part Zagor |
22:18:24 | | Join Zagor [0] (~bjst@46.35.227.87.static.tab.siw.siwnet.net) |
22:18:24 | | Quit Zagor (Changing host) |
22:18:24 | | Join Zagor [242] (~bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) |
22:26:04 | saratoga | bertrik: maybe a good first step for the clip zip is to try inserting a delay without repacking the firmware? |
22:26:10 | saratoga | IIRC thats what funman did origignally |
22:26:17 | saratoga | to make sure he had a working GPIO |
22:27:16 | bertrik | saratoga, what do you mean, adding a delay without the ucl decompression? |
22:27:43 | | Quit ChickeNES (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) |
22:27:45 | saratoga | originally funman just stuck a wait loop into the firmware so it delayed booting 5 seconds |
22:27:53 | saratoga | then he made that loop conditional on a button press |
22:28:15 | saratoga | this way he could check that he could patch the firmware without too much risk to the player - it would boot even if he did something wrong |
22:30:50 | bertrik | my plan for the first step is to use dualboot and ucl compression, but just boot to the OF, step 2 is to check a button and add a boot delay and step 3 is to make the button boot between OF and rockbox bootloader |
22:31:16 | saratoga | i suppose UCL compression shouldn't fail since its the same as the clip+ |
22:32:03 | bertrik | I think funman also ran the dualboot code on an emulator before (or after ...? ) trying on target |
22:32:11 | | Join stripwax [0] (~Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) |
22:36:29 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
22:37:04 | | Join evilnick [0] (~evilnick@rockbox/staff/evilnick) |
22:37:23 | | Quit Highlander (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [Firefox 6.0.1/20110830092941]) |
22:37:38 | | Quit y4n (Quit: only amiga makes it possible) |
22:38:23 | | Quit stripwax (Quit: http://miranda-im.org) |
22:47:43 | pamaury | I had a thought about implement backtracing on device (at least on ARM) and I think it's doable using gcc DWARF (+ some handcrafted dwarfd directive to unwind further than irq/exception) |
22:50:15 | amiconn | Hmm, build times are rising even though the changes are small |
22:50:25 | * | amiconn wonders why |
22:53:39 | Zagor | looks like roolku's machines are used for other work. the traitor! ;-) |
22:54:49 | amiconn | Only the bXX ones though, or did I overlook something? |
22:55:47 | Zagor | the nxx machine are working at about half their normal speed |
22:55:50 | Zagor | machines |
22:55:58 | amiconn | Ah no, the nXX ones too, just not as obvious |
22:56:54 | amiconn | Although - "round speed" fluctuates a lot, and some fluctuations are the effect of a primary one |
22:57:48 | amiconn | E.g. because the last round took much longer, my box got several builds it didn't get before, causing it to be slower, because nothing has been ccache'd for tthose builds |
22:58:17 | Zagor | yes. the system is too complex to predict accurately. |
22:58:20 | amiconn | Btw, the "sticky allocation" kugel suggested could be done for both target and android builds |
22:59:06 | amiconn | Only sims and wps tool should be shuffled around in order to expose them to varying toolchains |
23:00 |
23:05:27 | | Quit Strife89 (Quit: Switching OS) |
23:21:33 | bluebroth3r | [Saint]: ok, it's working on top of r30276. Need to figure when it breaks later |
23:22:00 | | Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) |
23:23:20 | | Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) |
23:25:11 | | Join ChickeNES [0] (~ChickeNES@rouxbicon.rh.uchicago.edu) |
23:27:35 | gevaerts | Do we want a FAT formatting plugin? |
23:28:27 | CIA-14 | New commit by bluebrother (r30412): Quote command arguments to avoid the shell trying to expand them. |
23:28:59 | bluebroth3r | gevaerts: for formatting the drive Rockbox is running of? |
23:29:06 | gevaerts | Possibly :) |
23:29:52 | gevaerts | More likely for things like archos and beast on large drives |
23:30:11 | bluebroth3r | could make sense for those :) |
23:30:35 | bluebroth3r | btw, is it possible to link a plugin to the system libz on Android? |
23:31:07 | bluebroth3r | or can plugins only link to Rockbox libs? |
23:31:11 | CIA-14 | r30412 build result: All green |
23:34:30 | CIA-14 | New commit by gevaerts (r30413): Rework c200wipe to use proper partitioning and formatting code, which makes the code size-independent. ... |
23:37:38 | CIA-14 | r30413 build result: All green |
23:38:04 | bluebroth3r | gevaerts: interesting keyword line that main-ppsansawipe.c has :) |
23:38:20 | bluebroth3r | reminds me that I wanted to kill all keyword lines from Rockbox Utility |
23:38:27 | gevaerts | oh |
23:38:29 | gevaerts | right |
23:38:44 | gevaerts | Oh well, as soon as we move to git that should be history anyway |
23:39:19 | * | bluebroth3r tries one last thing about his Android issue |
23:39:29 | gevaerts | I should upload new binaries to the wiki and update the instructions there, and add a mention that the thing might be needed for e200 too |
23:39:47 | gevaerts | I guess nobody else really wants to do that? |
23:48:47 | | Quit pamaury (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
23:49:07 | | Quit robin0800 (Read error: Connection timed out) |
23:54:31 | | Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@vit94-1-82-67-248-70.fbx.proxad.net) |
23:54:31 | | Quit pamaury (Changing host) |
23:54:31 | | Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) |
23:56:14 | | Join Jerom1 [0] (~jerome@79.132.42.100) |
23:56:48 | | Quit petur (Quit: Leaving) |
23:58:36 | | Join TheLemonMan [0] (~LemonBoy@ppp-131-19.26-151.libero.it) |