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#rockbox log for 2011-09-09

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01:03:11JdGordonkugel: why is aduiobuf even allocated before audio is started?
01:07:04JdGordonalso, playback shouldnt ever fail a shrink/move. if it cant satisfy the shrink/move it shold stop,dealocated the buffer, the queue a restart
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01:25:31reuttlesback again. i've been running RB on a Sansa Clip v1 for about a year, all of a sudden it will no longer turn on unless USB is connected. any ideas?
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02:18:15soapdoes it continue to run after USB is disconnected?
02:18:25soapreuttles ^
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02:53:51reuttleshi soap
02:53:58reuttlessorry, didn't see your msg
02:54:23reuttlesno, after USB is unplugged it shuts off like it normally does
02:54:41soapMaybe I wasn't clear.
02:55:07soapIs the device capable of running on its own w/o USB power? Or when you remove the USB power does the device shut down?
02:55:15reuttlesthe latter
02:55:23soapSounds like a dead battery.
02:55:42reuttlesdoes that happen? :)
02:56:27soapOvercharge, Overdischarge, Bad luck, whatever. LiIon batteries die.
02:56:35reuttleshmm.
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02:57:11soapBut from what you say it isn't a problem of it not turning on. It's a problem of it can't power itself.
02:57:32soapRemove the back and check the contacts. If you've lead a good clean life perhaps the contacts are corroded.
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02:57:57soapOh, sorry, this is a Clip v1, not a E200 v1. Don't know why I thought it was.
02:58:29reuttlescorrect. so which part of that doesn't apply?
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03:00:24reuttleswb.
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03:03:19soapreuttles, the part which doesn't apply is a simple unscrewing of the back to access the replaceable battery.
03:03:46soapAs the clip is not screwed together like the E200 and I don't believe its battery is anything other than wired in.
03:03:54*reuttles nods
03:04:18soapbut the evidence points to dead battery.
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03:05:25reuttleshmm. i guess the only thing i can do is open it up and check the cell
03:06:26reuttlesalthough if it that is problem there's not much point since i doubt i can locate a suitable replacement
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03:06:42reuttlescertainly nothing that will fit inside the original space :P
03:10:52reuttlesinteresting. if i hold power while pluuging in the usb cable, it turns on and shows it's charging... then as soon as i release the power switch, it shows the battery is full
03:18:34soapodd
03:21:03reuttlesprolly just a UI bug
03:22:04reuttlesi'll try taking it apart, i found a few posts claiming the battery wires tend to pull loose
03:22:28reuttlesprobably not the case, but if they just need replacing then that's easy enough
03:22:33reuttlesthanks for the advice
03:23:50soapgood luck
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10:04:05kugelbluebrother: configure is already CROSS_COMPILE aware, why introduce another?
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10:14:03kugelJdGordon: the audiobuf also allocates for voice
10:14:56kugelJdGordon: I'm not sure why you tell me that playback shouldnt fail to shrink. it's doing already what you said
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11:37:33YoubiHello
11:38:33Youbii can't get name files and menus to be read on my sansa clip + :(
11:39:15YoubiAnd the screen is broken.
11:41:31gevaertsDid you copy a voice file to the correct place?
11:43:07Youbieuh……… no. I just used the rockbox utility.
11:44:56gevaertsThat should be ok
11:45:36gevaertsMaybe check though. Is there a file named "english.voice" in .rockbox/langs ?
11:45:59gevaertsAnd is your language still set to english? (if it's a fresh install, it will be)
11:49:29Youbiok i check.
11:50:40YoubiThere is an english.voice file.
11:51:14YoubiNo, my language is set to french, but i can set it in the config file no?
11:51:52gevaertsYou can, yes, but you need a matching voice file.
11:52:37Youbiwell, I'll set it to english
11:52:39gevaertsDo you have francais.voice?
11:53:45YoubiNo, there is not any francais.voice.
11:54:03YoubiBut english is good for me.
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12:15:29Youbiit doesn't work.
12:15:44YoubiMore, i've two config files.
12:16:18Youbione named config.
12:16:25YoubiThe other named config01
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12:57:05kugelthe fix for FS #12265 turns out to make the code actually nicer, IMO
12:57:06fs-bluebothttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12265 3Sansa Clip+ cannot display cabbiev2 wps at r30478 (bugs, unconfirmed)
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15:36:05CIA-14r30486 build result: All green
15:49:08gbl08mawhat the hell happened with the themes
15:49:14gbl08ma*the theme parser
15:49:39gbl08maThe WPS of the photoskins port for the nano is not showing correctly
15:51:25*gbl08ma thinks if it's better to leave photoSkins-nano unmaintained or go through updating over five themes to make them work...
15:53:21gbl08mathe theme site says the themes are supposed to work with the current build. indeed, the SBS works fine, the WPS doesn't no matter what the theme (other than cabbiev2)
15:54:59mc2739gbl08ma: the current builds have a problem loading multiple fonts
15:55:16gbl08maI see...
15:55:45gbl08ma(ufff... it's great to know it's not a change the the theme language)
15:55:48gbl08mathanks
15:56:01mc2739you're welcome
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16:11:09gevaertsaDifferentJim: it unzips fine for me
16:12:50aDifferentJimI'll check again. I've run into errors using winrar pretty consistently. Perhaps a reboot.
16:13:15aDifferentJimthanks for checking.
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17:35:16CIA-14New commit by 03kugel (r30487): Buflib: Stop caching the first unallocated block. It has little benefit but is complicated to keep up-to-date.
17:38:01CIA-14r30487 build result: All green
17:43:32*gevaerts apparently doesn't understand how to add a setting :\
17:44:10CIA-14New commit by 03kugel (r30488): Remove obsolete comment
17:44:22kugelahh ffs
17:44:34kugeli hit ctrl+c while dcommitting :(
17:46:44CIA-14r30488 build result: All green
17:59:43Lalufuwhat units does current_tick count in? incremented by one every 1/HZ seconds?
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18:15:36CIA-14New commit by 03gevaerts (r30489): Add "USB Hide Internal Drive" option for multidrive devices with software usb. ...
18:16:58gevaertsIs this a major change?
18:18:26CIA-14r30489 build result: All green
18:18:42kugelgevaerts: why not an option which drive to show instead?
18:19:19kugel(defaulting to both)
18:19:24gevaertsThat's a lot more work
18:20:04gevaertsIf someone wants to do it, sure
18:20:43kugelgevaerts: aha. this was available as compile time option already. now it makes sense :)
18:20:53gevaertsMy change basically changed a debug define that's been there for years to a setting
18:21:28kugelI didn't even know it exists
18:21:29gevaertsIn fact, the first version of that debug option was buggy, which is why I had to write this c200 recovery tool :)
18:22:26kugel(*tb.max_lun)−− vs *tb.max_lun−−?
18:23:11*gevaerts can't remember the details, but the effect was that reads were done on the sd slot while writes went to internal flash
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18:24:11gevaertsVery, especially if the known recovery procedures don't handle the situation you end up in
18:37:03kugelhm, that audiobuf reclaim patch is still not workign :(
18:45:31*gevaerts wants a substring tag!
18:52:35gevaertsIs there a skin already to get the first n letters of a string?
18:52:38gevaerts*skin tag
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20:12:24gevaertsBagder, Zagor: http://www.rockbox.org/mail/archive//rockbox-archive-2011-09/0019.shtml seems to have a malware attachment
20:12:41gevaertsI'm not convinced that that should stay in the archives for people to download
20:13:48gevaertsOh, and something seems to be stuck with svn and/or the build system. My svn commit is waiting for the server, and the previous build round is overrunning
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21:18:31bluebroth3rkugel: how you you specify a different cross configure prefix than the one that's hard coded in configure?
21:20:02kugel$CROSS_COMPILE
21:21:54bluebroth3rthat doesn't work for me.
21:22:16bluebroth3rit insists on using i586-mingw32msvc-gcc which isn't how my cross compiler is named.
21:22:35bluebroth3rthat's why I introduced a variable to explicitly set the prefix for the cross compiler
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21:25:52LalufuA question. If a vanilla ipod transistions from extended inteface mode (in which it can be remote controlled) to normal mode, it pauses playback, if playing.
21:26:01LalufuIs it desirable to emulate this behaviour?
21:27:26bluebroth3rdoes that behaviour make sense?
21:27:41bluebroth3r(in the normal use case it occurs)
21:28:39Lalufuthere is some sense in that.
21:29:19Lalufuif you have your ipod connected to your car or stereo, and switch that stereo or car off, the ipod will leave the extended interface mode.
21:29:29Lalufuusually you don't want it to continue playing
21:29:49bluebroth3rthen I'd say it's desirable :)
21:42:53*gevaerts sees that what he described as "only a very small cost" is actually a net gain
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22:18:14kugelpbluebroth3r: thats
22:18:50kugelpthe purpose of CROSS_COMPILE as well. if it doesn't work It's a bug
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22:43:09kugelgevaerts: what "small cost" are you refering to=
22:43:14kugelto*?
22:43:52kugelahh, the commit?
22:44:51gevaertskugel: binsize
22:45:00gevaertsWhich turned out to be a net gain actually
22:45:05kugelthough, why do include strnatcmp and don't use it?
22:45:27gevaertsI used it first, but then I changed my mind
22:45:41gevaertsMaybe we want it, but I'm not sure
22:46:27gevaertsIt all depends on why people use this feature, which they likely won't at all...
22:47:00gevaerts"Make the screen red if the next artist has an alphabetically later name" doesn't sound like a feature most people are waiting for :)
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