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| 00:35:09 | icheyne | hi all - I found a bug in a rockbox theme - where should I report it? |
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| 01:13:08 | JdGordon | [Saint]: use the skin list drawing to use a different line height without increasing the font size |
| 01:29:00 | soap | scorche, VPN, forum, troubleshoot? |
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| 02:13:49 | JdGordon | mc2739: you *sure* you're seeing bitmaps loaded twice? something is very wrong with your sim |
| 02:17:07 | mc2739 | JdGordon: on the buffer allocs debug screen I see double allocs for the bmps |
| 02:17:39 | JdGordon | are you sure its not the same image loaded twice becasue the sbs and wps load it? |
| 02:19:25 | mc2739 | I don't think so, when I looked at the same debug screen on the device, they were not duplicated - if it was wps and sbs, it should show up the same on both the sim and the device |
| 02:19:55 | JdGordon | I'm really wondering if you are running what you tihnk you are running on the sim. |
| 02:20:21 | JdGordon | I havnt reproduced any of the bugs you've mentioned :( |
| 02:21:17 | mc2739 | what could cause my sim to be so different? |
| 02:21:26 | JdGordon | exactly |
| 02:21:45 | JdGordon | do a completly new checkout/build perhaps? |
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| 02:23:12 | mc2739 | I have another checkout on a different system, I'll try building there and see if it acts the same |
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| 03:29:03 | mc2739 | JdGordon: 3 checkouts made on 2 systems and they all behave the same |
| 03:29:41 | JdGordon | what the flippety? |
| 03:30:40 | JdGordon | I don't know what to do. I was hoping to commit this tonight |
| 03:31:34 | mc2739 | I zipped up on of the sims - do you want me to upload it for you? |
| 03:31:57 | JdGordon | ok |
| 03:34:09 | mc2739 | JdGordon: http://www.datafilehost.com/download-84b6ee3f.html |
| 03:35:34 | JdGordon | wow, ok |
| 03:37:59 | JdGordon | did you strip the debug symbols? |
| 03:39:08 | mc2739 | yes, and you probably did not want me to do that |
| 03:42:42 | JdGordon | can you upload a diff of your tree? something wierd is happening |
| 03:45:32 | mc2739 | http://www.datafilehost.com/download-a09957c0.html |
| 03:46:26 | mc2739 | do you want the zip with debug symbols too? |
| 03:50:03 | JdGordon | whats the file? |
| 03:52:19 | JdGordon | ok, that diff looks fine |
| 03:53:54 | mc2739 | http://www.datafilehost.com/download-d7e6ce6f.html (16mb) |
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| 06:17:55 | JdGordon | does anyone remember the trick to put the raaa resources on the sdcard? |
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| 06:32:02 | JdGordon | speak of the devil |
| 06:36:22 | JdGordon | [Saint_AndChat]: see my fs reply... i want to commit your theme already |
| 06:36:58 | [Saint_AndChat] | Will do when I get home. |
| 06:37:49 | [Saint_AndChat] | ~30 mins or so. |
| 06:38:26 | JdGordon | pretyt much im concerned with the buffer usage because skin images arent using malloc anymore |
| 06:38:33 | JdGordon | so the audio buffer is 4mb |
| 06:40:48 | [Saint_AndChat] | I can take down buffer usage by ~500K~1MB by translating the titlebar, which was always a todo. |
| 06:41:00 | [Saint_AndChat] | But its a scary massive theme. |
| 06:41:28 | [Saint_AndChat] | ~6MB for 480x800 |
| 06:42:06 | JdGordon | yeah, no, thats fine, I'm just saying I'm nervy of commiting it before fixing buflib |
| 06:42:18 | [Saint_AndChat] | Ah, right. |
| 06:44:25 | [Saint_AndChat] | There's some other slight buffer savings, destined for the near future. Nothing really big though, I'll have it about 1.2MB smaller trimming some images I stole from svn for now and using translation in the titlebar. |
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| 06:44:54 | [Saint_AndChat] | ...I guess that is quite a bit, actually. |
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| 06:46:49 | * | [Saint_AndChat] needs an SVG master |
| 06:47:01 | JdGordon | hmm.. the sbs isnt loading :/ |
| 06:47:46 | [Saint_AndChat] | Bah! |
| 06:47:59 | * | JdGordon nuking his /sdcard/rockbox folder |
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| 06:52:43 | JdGordon | S_a_i_n_t: what was the trick to get raa to put resources on the sdcard? |
| 06:53:31 | S_a_i_n_t | rockbox-info.txt in /sdcard/Rockbox |
| 06:54:02 | S_a_i_n_t | It can be a dummy/blank |
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| 06:57:43 | JdGordon | 3.40MB audio buffer :) |
| 06:57:49 | JdGordon | finally got it loaded |
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| 07:00:03 | [Saint] | Have a decent usability play if you're game. |
| 07:00:18 | [Saint] | No as case needs alignment checks |
| 07:01:47 | JdGordon | I wouldnt mind taller line heights (using skin lists) but that doesnt need to be done straight away |
| 07:01:51 | JdGordon | the lists are ugly :) |
| 07:03:29 | JdGordon | the volume bar in the wps still has some colour issues |
| 07:03:35 | [Saint] | There was a discussion about that in the forum actually. |
| 07:03:45 | JdGordon | and the right end doesnt have the rounded edge |
| 07:03:48 | [Saint] | Lists that is. |
| 07:03:53 | JdGordon | thats why I bring it up |
| 07:04:07 | JdGordon | iirc you replied along the lines of doing it with mangled fonts? |
| 07:04:42 | [Saint] | No I said that's not the way. |
| 07:04:59 | [Saint] | Nor is kugel's list height hack. |
| 07:05:22 | [Saint] | Skinned lists is the only way ill do it. |
| 07:05:30 | JdGordon | good good |
| 07:05:32 | [Saint] | The "Wright's way. |
| 07:05:39 | [Saint] | Bah. |
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| 07:18:21 | [Saint_AndChat] | Oh...hee hee, that was silly. |
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| 07:18:47 | JdGordon | ? |
| 07:19:06 | * | [Saint_AndChat] needs to stop batch editing themes with bash for "safe" fixes. |
| 07:19:23 | [Saint_AndChat] | I fed it some wrong value. |
| 07:19:35 | JdGordon | someone shold really make a gui editor for skins :) |
| 07:19:45 | JdGordon | also a script to automagically resize themes |
| 07:20:21 | * | [Saint_AndChat] remembers this fancy editor we had once ;) |
| 07:20:42 | [Saint_AndChat] | The one that's so convoluted no one wants to touch it anymore... |
| 07:20:48 | [Saint_AndChat] | ;) |
| 07:21:44 | [Saint_AndChat] | Last I checked it didn't even compile anymore. |
| 07:21:51 | JdGordon | :'( |
| 07:22:10 | JdGordon | we did get a kick ass parser though so its still a big win |
| 07:22:17 | [Saint_AndChat] | Amen. |
| 07:22:34 | [Saint_AndChat] | Its still plenty fixable I'd imagine. |
| 07:22:44 | [Saint_AndChat] | The guts are still there. |
| 07:23:02 | JdGordon | I have serious issues with its implementation though |
| 07:23:05 | [Saint_AndChat] | Time, effort, etc. |
| 07:23:13 | JdGordon | I *may* eventually go insnae and rebuild it :p |
| 07:23:51 | JdGordon | it should use something more factory style to produce the tag elements (like the actual rockbox code does) |
| 07:23:56 | [Saint_AndChat] | The problem is the experienced Turner's code "blind" as its faster, and it was a bit daunting for novices. |
| 07:24:17 | [Saint_AndChat] | Turners? Ahem, themers. |
| 07:24:47 | JdGordon | I think only you code blind :) |
| 07:25:03 | [Saint_AndChat] | Then the maintainer essentially went awol. |
| 07:25:06 | JdGordon | coding blind drunk isnt very easy :) |
| 07:25:30 | [Saint_AndChat] | ...been there ;) |
| 07:27:09 | [Saint_AndChat] | I discovered its faster/easier for me to make a theme element mockup and shift things around in the image, then steal the values once it looks right. |
| 07:27:25 | [Saint_AndChat] | Essentially all the theme editor does. |
| 07:27:50 | JdGordon | a paper mockup? |
| 07:28:08 | [Saint_AndChat] | Bitmap or svg |
| 07:28:37 | [Saint_AndChat] | ...heh, paper. |
| 07:29:05 | [Saint_AndChat] | I'm not THAT oldschool. |
| 07:29:46 | JdGordon | writing a svg->theme convertor should be pretty trivial |
| 07:29:55 | JdGordon | assumignn svg gives you layers? |
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| 07:30:40 | [Saint_AndChat] | It does indeed. Accepting svg images in the skin code would rock. |
| 07:31:21 | JdGordon | no, I mean you draw your theme and save it as a single svg (with placeholders for images) and the basic layout would be generated for oyu |
| 07:31:26 | [Saint_AndChat] | Actual transparency instead of our magic colours would mean residing images would be a lot easier. |
| 07:31:52 | JdGordon | no way we could add a svg parser to the core :) |
| 07:31:57 | [Saint_AndChat] | I know what you meant. But I'd love scalable svg in core. |
| 07:32:06 | [Saint_AndChat] | (Never happen) |
| 07:32:11 | JdGordon | no point |
| 07:32:20 | JdGordon | svg->bitmap is a simple thing for pc's |
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| 07:33:03 | [Saint_AndChat] | Yeah but then we could resize on demand for portrait / landscape. |
| 07:33:20 | JdGordon | "on demand" could also mean rbutil |
| 07:33:29 | [Saint_AndChat] | ...dreams are free ;) |
| 07:33:37 | [Saint_AndChat] | True. |
| 07:33:38 | JdGordon | freedom isnt free! |
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| 07:54:32 | JdGordon | kugel: how do you feel about jdgordon/rockbox/commit/adc88c5c86e7275751013c520053d667d9353824">https://github.com/jdgordon/rockbox/commit/adc88c5c86e7275751013c520053d667d9353824 ? I'd like to commit that pretty soonish (even as a stop gap) |
| 07:54:46 | JdGordon | it uses mallc for all allocs except "core_alloc_max()" |
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| 07:57:31 | ukleinek | JdGordon: don't know about rockbox' style guide, but I would prefer to have int handle out of the #ifdef |
| 07:58:30 | JdGordon | yeah, fair enough |
| 07:59:05 | JdGordon | [Saint]: in the no-aa next track info viewport, can you make the "Next Track:" line either a different colour/font or add some spaceing? |
| 07:59:10 | JdGordon | vertical spacing |
| 07:59:44 | [Saint] | right...so its not sitting directly on top of the metadata? |
| 07:59:53 | JdGordon | also, would be nice if not all of the current track info was bold |
| 07:59:55 | JdGordon | yeah |
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| 08:00:23 | [Saint] | Yep, there's enough space to do that. |
| 08:01:06 | [Saint] | WHat line(s) of the "no aa" case for current metadata should be bolded/not? |
| 08:01:10 | [Saint] | *What |
| 08:01:55 | [Saint] | Initially, iirc, I had the current info in bold and the next info in regular. |
| 08:01:57 | JdGordon | err... not sure :) I'd like more spacing between each line, i dont care about the genre/year/bitrate lines |
| 08:02:44 | [Saint] | I'll have a play. I have to be careful about data I don't give a flying fuck about, but others may ;) |
| 08:03:03 | [Saint] | The No Aa case can display a shitload more data than the AA case, so it may as well (IMO) |
| 08:04:05 | JdGordon | use skin vars to show different screens :) |
| 08:04:10 | JdGordon | hows your tab versions coming? |
| 08:04:11 | JdGordon | :D |
| 08:04:16 | [Saint] | It took a while to get the syntax right, but I finally got the metadata to auto-adjust itself if cases are missing instead of leavinf a blank line. |
| 08:04:36 | [Saint] | I'm quite proud of the metadata display syntax, and want to port it to all cabbies. |
| 08:05:34 | [Saint] | its simple, but beautiful. I was surprised svn cabbie didn't already do it. |
| 08:07:14 | [Saint] | I'm not trying to fight the unwinnable war of always displaying as much metadata as possible when cases that are expected to be there, aren't there. So I decided to just use conditions to shuffle the case under to "missing" element up a line to fill the gap. |
| 08:07:42 | [Saint] | s/to "missing"/the "missing"/ |
| 08:08:50 | [Saint] | there's probably still circumstances I haven't accounted for when virtually every case is missing...but I think its fair to assume users have reasonably sane metadata. If there's no really useful info available it falls back to filename and encoding details. |
| 08:09:47 | [Saint] | well, its probably not fair to assume users have sane metadata, but I think it is fair to not try terribly hard to handle these cases. |
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| 08:45:24 | JdGordon | wtf is wpsbuild.pl doing? |
| 08:45:40 | [Saint] | ask wodz. |
| 08:45:50 | [Saint] | IIRC, its his baby. |
| 08:46:14 | JdGordon | way earlier than wodz |
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| 08:46:29 | JdGordon | I dont understand how it gets the target name into the filename |
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| 08:47:51 | wodz | wpsbuild.pl is not mine. I rewrote it once but there was no real interest to push this work to trunk so I dropped it |
| 08:48:10 | JdGordon | getting the $app into wpsbuild.pl is the easy bit |
| 08:48:12 | JdGordon | wodz: oh? |
| 08:48:32 | [Saint] | wodz: Oh, my mistake. |
| 08:48:38 | wodz | it should be in tracker somwhere |
| 08:48:42 | [Saint] | I thought your changes were committed. |
| 08:49:36 | wodz | anyway wpsbuild.pl in its current state is terrible hack |
| 08:49:50 | JdGordon | i just need to have it check for <name>.<dimensions>[extra].<extension> for each file where extra could be $modelname, or "app", or empty in that order |
| 08:51:04 | JdGordon | who decided it shouldnt be commited? |
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| 08:56:36 | wodz | my patch 1) changed format of WPSLIST to xml based 2) introduced new dependancy (perl module to parse xml) |
| 08:57:54 | JdGordon | ah, IIRC it was the dependancy which annoyed everyone? not the xl change? |
| 08:58:18 | wodz | No one seem be interested. The patch hanged for long on tracker without any interest and comments on IRC wasn't motivating me to work on this further |
| 08:58:19 | JdGordon | though WPSLIST is much emptier now so it might be easy enough to flatten and not need xml |
| 08:58:56 | JdGordon | "No one seem be interested." <- pretty common problem here... untill its commited :/ |
| 08:59:19 | JdGordon | you should have thrown in a UI change.. *that* would have got the discussion rolling |
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| 09:12:58 | [Saint] | JdGordon: I see no reason why the volume slider should be displaying incorrectly. |
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| 09:13:16 | [Saint] | Could you please a: screenshot the issue, and b: pastebin the .wps? |
| 09:13:25 | [Saint] | (big ask, I know, sorry) |
| 09:14:38 | JdGordon | yes I can screenshot now that cm added it :) |
| 09:15:51 | JdGordon | wps is unchanged |
| 09:16:23 | JdGordon | err.. screenshot is fucking useless! its completly black! |
| 09:17:51 | [Saint] | Hmmm...It's ok. I _think_ I know what's happening, I just can't explain it. |
| 09:18:00 | [Saint] | Thanks for trying. |
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| 09:19:31 | JdGordon | ill do a sdl build and get a screeny there |
| 09:23:12 | JdGordon | [Saint]: http://imagebin.org/173498 |
| 09:23:28 | JdGordon | my laptops screen is only 768px high :) |
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| 10:22:28 | [Saint] | right, I've caught the fuckup in the 480x800 volume slider. |
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| 10:23:05 | [Saint] | and I've also re-done the 320x480 pop-up images so they're no longer "squished". |
| 10:24:00 | [Saint] | I'll have a look at splitting off the "Next Track:" title to its own viewport before I put a new version up on flyspray I think. |
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| 13:30:22 | [Saint] | JdGordon: Re: "Next Track:" alignment, there's only room to shift it up *ever* so slightly in the "AA" case, but I can align it it lot better in the "No AA" case. |
| 13:30:50 | [Saint] | ...was it specifically the No AA case you had in mind, or the AA case, or both? |
| 13:31:19 | JdGord | Ummm |
| 13:31:28 | [Saint] | for 320x480 and 240x360 its simply not possible to align the text any differently in the AA case. |
| 13:31:40 | [Saint] | there's no room to wiggle anything. |
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| 13:31:55 | [Saint] | It can be done in the No AA case though. |
| 13:32:44 | JdGord | The aa case isn't so bad |
| 13:33:01 | pondlife | JdGord: I just updated my crash traces FWIW |
| 13:33:04 | JdGord | How about use a smaller font always for it? |
| 13:33:26 | [Saint] | for just the "Next Track:" text? |
| 13:33:28 | JdGord | Pondlife: yup, saw. Can't do anything about it for a few hours |
| 13:33:32 | JdGord | Yeah |
| 13:33:41 | [Saint] | Hmmm...yeah, that could be done. |
| 13:33:42 | pondlife | No rush, just thought I'd mention |
| 13:34:42 | * | [Saint] will poke at things. I just got home, but I'll poke around after I eat and then put my current work (fixes many an issue, including the pop-up stuff you noticed), and then I'll start tinkering with the "Next Track:" alignment. |
| 13:34:59 | [Saint] | (Don't want to put up a version with too many changes in one go.) |
| 13:36:59 | [Saint] | Hmmm....loading a ~1.XMB font for ~20 chars is a bit of an issue...I'd sooner do it with a bitmap, but that messes up translation (its translated to user lang) currently |
| 13:37:47 | [Saint] | I suppose I can just limit the chars loaded for it, but another font makes the total theme size even more gargantuan(sp?) |
| 13:38:34 | [Saint] | "meh"...its for smartphones. You *should* have sufficient space. There's always resources on sdcard if you don't I suppose. |
| 13:47:53 | CIA-14 | New commit by 03nls (r30580): libtremor: port over ffmpeg's windowing code ... |
| 13:49:21 | wodz | n1s: impressive speedup |
| 13:49:46 | n1s | wodz: thanks |
| 13:50:07 | CIA-14 | r30580 build result: All green |
| 13:50:15 | n1s | it mostly helps for targets with slow memory |
| 13:50:47 | n1s | 129kbps vorbis is now faster than mp3 on cf :) |
| 13:50:50 | n1s | 128 |
| 13:51:48 | n1s | hmm, i should rename that header file now |
| 13:52:35 | [Saint] | nice. |
| 13:54:18 | CIA-14 | New commit by 03nls (r30581): libtremor: rename file that now contains more ffmpeg code. |
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| 14:07:23 | JdGord | Pondlife: is your themes using the same font for remote and main lcd? |
| 14:07:44 | pondlife | Not sure... hang on |
| 14:07:49 | pondlife | Problem is images, not fonts though |
| 14:07:51 | pondlife | I think |
| 14:08:24 | JdGord | I havnt done any multilcd testing so yeah... |
| 14:08:55 | pondlife | Nope - cabbuiev2 uses different fonts on main/remote |
| 14:09:15 | JdGord | Hmm ok. Ill be home in 30min or so and ill have a looky |
| 14:09:18 | pondlife | Pen&Paper only specifies the main font |
| 14:09:51 | pondlife | If I make buflib_free tolerate this case, the problem goes away... but we probably shouldn't be double-freeing. |
| 14:10:08 | JdGord | Of course |
| 14:10:25 | JdGord | Double free shouldn't be posible :( |
| 14:10:51 | JdGord | Have it crash is far better then silently ignoring the issue |
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| 14:28:30 | n1s | −−gc-sections doesn't seem to gc stuff in iram |
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| 14:35:38 | JdGordon | pondlife: apart from the printf, were you getting any compile errors? |
| 14:38:29 | Lalufu | My iap rework code just successfully authenticated two devices it's never seen before. Now it just has to understand the commands the things send after authentication. |
| 14:38:41 | JdGordon | aweomse |
| 14:39:27 | pondlife | JdGordon: I didn't get the printf error.. just the settings.h one (global_status not defined) |
| 14:39:58 | JdGordon | ok cool, I thught my git checkout got corrrupted |
| 14:40:13 | JdGordon | I wonder why non-remote targets didnt need that #include |
| 14:40:22 | JdGordon | anyway, crash is nice and easy to reproduce |
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| 14:43:07 | JdGordon | haah easy fix |
| 14:43:10 | JdGordon | I copy/pasted bad code |
| 14:44:04 | pondlife | Cool |
| 14:46:39 | JdGordon | updated the tracker |
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| 15:07:11 | [Saint] | have an FS #12254 |
| 15:07:12 | fs-bluebot | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12254 3RaaA cabbiev2 [Full Touch Application Port] (patches, new) |
| 15:08:22 | [Saint] | pixelma: As the only other person I know with a 240x320 RaaA device...it would be great if you could give this a look and post some feedback. |
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| 16:01:39 | belak | How hard is it to install rockbox on the iPod classic? |
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| 16:03:05 | belak | Also, what does it mean by Partial support on battery... |
| 16:03:58 | n1s | it's not very difficult as long as you can follow instructions |
| 16:04:23 | n1s | rockbox gets a lot worse battery time on the classic than the OF |
| 16:04:31 | [Saint] | 1 - Not very, 2 - I believe that page has stale data. |
| 16:04:51 | [Saint] | The wiki often gets neglected, though not deliberately. |
| 16:06:58 | [Saint] | belak: this is the page you want: http://www.freemyipod.org/wiki/EmCORE_Installation/iPodClassic/PrepareDFU |
| 16:07:21 | [Saint] | its a step-by-step guid to installing ROckbox on the Classic |
| 16:07:28 | [Saint] | *Rockbox, even. |
| 16:08:11 | [Saint] | things you should know: |
| 16:08:13 | belak | So, I'd have to use the iPod classic builds from EmCORE? |
| 16:08:26 | [Saint] | Installing emCORE and Rockbox *will* wipe your disk. |
| 16:08:33 | belak | yep, I'm aware. |
| 16:08:36 | [Saint] | (so backup your data, or lose it) |
| 16:09:33 | [Saint] | Installign emCORE/Rockbox will also wipe the OF (original firmware) |
| 16:09:49 | belak | Yep. |
| 16:09:51 | [Saint] | (so you will not be able to use the Apple firmware with them instaled) |
| 16:10:25 | belak | I also know about the lockups and the extremely reduced battery life. |
| 16:10:56 | [Saint] | you can get daily builds of the Classic port from: http://download.rockbox.org/daily/ipodclassic/ |
| 16:11:16 | belak | Probably not recommended though? |
| 16:11:17 | [Saint] | These aren't exposed on the main page, as its still officially "unusable" |
| 16:12:03 | [Saint] | Its recommended to use the released builds via Freemyipod unless you are a developer. |
| 16:14:29 | n1s | it is? |
| 16:14:45 | [Saint] | It is, yeah. |
| 16:14:55 | belak | Exception: Could not find specified DFU device (generation = 0, type = 0) |
| 16:15:00 | n1s | why do we recomend freemyipod builds? |
| 16:15:31 | [Saint] | to not go past their released version which is known good. |
| 16:15:53 | n1s | ? |
| 16:16:27 | [Saint] | there's something in the latest emCORE thats incompatible with Rockbox for the Classic in svn, iirc. |
| 16:16:53 | n1s | hmm |
| 16:17:37 | [Saint] | I seem to recally a patch on the tracker for this, but I assumed [7] would take care of it if/when he has the time. |
| 16:18:00 | [Saint] | I'm not certain of the full story, but the release version of ROckbox for Classic is quite some many revisions old. |
| 16:18:30 | user890104 | using any rockbox build with emcore <= r745 should be fine |
| 16:20:42 | user890104 | later emcore builds would need something like FS #12233 otherwise the lcd would be unusable in rockbox |
| 16:20:43 | fs-bluebot | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12233 3iPod 6G/Classic: LCD not displaying rockbox correctly if using emCORE >= r746 (patches, unconfirmed) |
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| 16:25:59 | [7] | I usually recommend to use the released *emCORE* versions, and not svn snapshots |
| 16:26:07 | [7] | and with the latest emCORE release, all rockbox versions should run fine, including svn head |
| 16:27:18 | [Saint] | Hmmm...then why does the release link for Rb builds point to an ancient build, and not the dailies or per-commit builds? |
| 16:27:31 | [Saint] | I assumed that was specific reasoning |
| 16:27:35 | [7] | the freemyipod rockbox builds have been tested, but I see no reason why the newer ones should break |
| 16:28:15 | [7] | it's just that I haven't had time to take care of updating the freemyipod builds |
| 16:28:55 | n1s | hmm, this ff_vector_fmul_window_c is hard to make much better since it needs to keep track of so many adresses |
| 16:29:19 | [7] | we should probably commit FS #12233 and then do a new release round with svn head emcore and svn head rockbox |
| 16:29:20 | fs-bluebot | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12233 3iPod 6G/Classic: LCD not displaying rockbox correctly if using emCORE >= r746 (patches, unconfirmed) |
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| 17:37:57 | belak | This is so much better than on my sansa fuse... I actually have screen real estate... |
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| 18:41:22 | [Saint] | hee hee....the control panel was unbelievable bugged in 480x800 |
| 18:41:39 | * | [Saint] finds it bloody hard to believe no one noticed. |
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| 19:06:50 | [Saint] | :-S |
| 19:07:14 | [Saint] | ...just added two more fonts to the RaaA cabbie port. |
| 19:07:30 | [Saint] | this baby is getting too big for its boots. |
| 19:08:14 | [Saint] | 480x800 is now 8.15MB |
| 19:08:49 | [Saint] | man... AA .fnt fonts are *big*. |
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| 19:16:38 | * | [Saint] believes he deserves an award for this. |
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| 19:17:03 | [Saint] | "Most shameless dedication to filling the entire skin/audio buffer" |
| 19:17:34 | [Saint] | (it's not actually my intention, on a serious note...its just kinda...happening) |
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| 19:19:37 | [Saint] | it (480x800) is at 8.15MB now, but its really not *quite* that bad. Pne of the ~980Kb or so backdrops is only loaded if the .sbs isn't used. And I can shave off ~1.5MB (maybe more) of images doing translation conversions...so the new fonts are *almost* "free". |
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| 19:32:04 | CIA-14 | New commit by 03nls (r30582): libtremor: cf asm for ff_vector_fmul_window_c, gives a speedup of ~0.3MHz. |
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| 19:34:17 | CIA-14 | r30582 build result: All green |
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| 19:52:57 | Buschel | n1s: the speedup you report for r30580 on CF targets is incredible :) |
| 19:59:34 | n1s | Buschel: the 256/2048 is the (overwhelmingly) most common case, and it's 3MHz for that |
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| 20:00:26 | n1s | oggenc only uses the larger blocksize for the very lowest qualities and then the reduced memory accesses really pay off on cf |
| 20:01:14 | * | n1s was surprised to see that sppedup too tbh |
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| 20:15:10 | Buschel | can this windowing stuff be helpful for other codecs as well? |
| 20:15:34 | * | Buschel didn't look closer at the changes |
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| 20:46:02 | saratoga | probably |
| 20:46:10 | saratoga | windowing is the same on basically all mdct codecs |
| 20:46:44 | Buschel | that's what I thought as well |
| 20:52:48 | saratoga | been meaning to move it into the mdct lib for a while now |
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| 21:00:53 | Lalufu | saratoga: got a minute? |
| 21:01:05 | saratoga | sure, whats up |
| 21:01:16 | Lalufu | git says you're to blame for the iap_tick function |
| 21:01:45 | Lalufu | I was wondering what the idea behind that was. does that come from a time where rockbox did not have timer functions? |
| 21:13:36 | saratoga | Lalufu: i never worked on IAP |
| 21:13:45 | saratoga | which commit is this in reference to? |
| 21:14:57 | Lalufu | 828f1d0f (git) |
| 21:15:03 | Lalufu | you applied a patch by someone else. |
| 21:15:10 | Lalufu | should have read the log before. sorry. |
| 21:15:30 | Lalufu | SVN commit 19585 |
| 21:16:12 | saratoga | ah forgot that i committed that patch |
| 21:16:21 | saratoga | you might ask Linus, as i recall he did a lot of the original work |
| 21:17:27 | Lalufu | linus as in LinusN ? |
| 21:17:42 | saratoga | yeah |
| 21:17:48 | Lalufu | thanks, will do |
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| 21:23:21 | Lalufu | LinusN: if you've got a minute sometime I'd appreciate it. |
| 21:24:38 | Lalufu | It's about the iap_task function in apps/iap.c, which is set up to be called every tick, I was wondering what the idea there was. |
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| 21:43:39 | pixelma | [Saint]: I guess I'd need a relatively new Rockbox in order to test your theme? |
| 21:44:26 | [Saint] | yes. |
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| 21:45:53 | [Saint] | pixelma: I'm uploading a (more recent than the tracker) version for you now, there's no rush to test. |
| 21:45:58 | [Saint] | http://www.datafilehost.com/download-be8ed3e0.html |
| 21:46:01 | [Saint] | There you go. |
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| 22:00:54 | [Saint] | pixelma: this fixes an issue that you /probably/ wouldn't even notice...but, fixes it nonetheless: |
| 22:00:55 | [Saint] | http://www.datafilehost.com/download-e00cdc7c.html |
| 22:01:23 | [Saint] | This will be posted as r00007 on the tracker task this afternoon (my time) |
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| 22:20:59 | polemon | hello, I have a problem with the latest stable of Rockbox on my iPod nano 2g |
| 22:21:09 | polemon | the progress bar doesn show any progress |
| 22:21:35 | polemon | it is constantly empty, most other stuff works, except handling of themes is a bit dodgy |
| 22:22:21 | polemon | also, I don't seem to be able to change the color of the fonts anywhere in the menus |
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| 22:45:00 | bertrik | ubuntu 10.10 uses gcc 4.6, so I guess we'll see more of the unused-but-set warning pretty soon |
| 22:45:47 | bertrik | I mean ubuntu 11.10 of course |
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| 23:03:51 | n1s | bertrik: debian unstable has had it for a while |
| 23:04:17 | n1s | iirc the only one i get for a sim build is in the test_mem plugin |
| 23:05:15 | n1s | and perhaps some in the tools but there are other warnings there i think |
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| 23:32:49 | pixelma | is there a known bug regarding writing theme settings currently? Running a freshly built apk on my phone and the UI just hangs there after selecting the menu item, music is currently still playing |
| 23:33:15 | polemon | couls someone please comment on the progress bar issue? |
| 23:33:19 | polemon | could* |
| 23:33:44 | [Saint] | "progress bar issue"? |
| 23:33:53 | [Saint] | Also, svn head installs fine here. |
| 23:33:54 | pixelma | polemon: I'm guessing it's a problem with the theme you are using, which one is it exactly? |
| 23:34:07 | polemon | let me check the name, real quick... |
| 23:34:19 | polemon | the probelm is with every theme I've used so far, wait a sec |
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| 23:35:11 | polemon | amarok, cabbiev2, cabbiev3, iLike, ElectricBarsOfColour |
| 23:35:40 | polemon | the progress bar works in none of them, but the counter displays te correct time |
| 23:37:22 | polemon | also, when switching themes, they sometimes don't display parts of the OSD, like battery graph, etc |
| 23:38:13 | polemon | I've written to the mailing list, but there hasn't been any reaction so foar |
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| 23:41:46 | pixelma | [Saint]: as I don't know SVN cabbiev2, I'm not sure if I'm running the correct version - any hint? |
| 23:42:21 | pixelma | as in: an obvious difference I could tell them apart |
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| 23:42:57 | [Saint] | pixelma: there will be a "control panel" down the bottom of the screen in the .sbs and .wps containing (in this order) volume, repeat, shuffle, rewind, playmode, fastforward |
| 23:43:35 | [Saint] | in the .wps, tapping volume or the album art should bring up a pop-up. |
| 23:43:49 | pixelma | huh, then I'm not |
| 23:44:25 | [Saint] | If you extracted the theme, *then* the new build, and you're using resources on sdcard...it probably got written over. |
| 23:44:36 | [Saint] | ("it" == cabbiev2.cfg) |
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| 23:45:17 | polemon | is there a way how I could track down the problem, why the progress bar isn't displayed correctly with some themes? |
| 23:45:56 | n1s | polemon: you mean in the wps? |
| 23:46:11 | [Saint] | you could compile checkwps, and pass the themes through it. |
| 23:46:32 | pixelma | of course I installed the new build first |
| 23:47:29 | [Saint] | pixelma: did it re-extract its resources to the sdcard (some circumstances can cause it to do so)? |
| 23:48:02 | polemon | I don't know, I started using RockBox just a few hours ago |
| 23:48:27 | polemon | It works, and all, but the progress bar doesn't in some themes |
| 23:48:47 | polemon | I'd like to know why, and possibly, how I could repair that, if possible... |
| 23:48:55 | n1s | polemon: does it work in cabbiev2 as included with the rockbox zip? |
| 23:49:08 | polemon | it works, in cabbiev2, yes |
| 23:49:10 | [Saint] | with Rockbox freshly installed, extracting the theme to the sdcard and then re-selecting cabbiev2 from Settings - Theme Settings - Browse Theme Files should "just work". |
| 23:49:12 | polemon | but not in cabbiev3 |
| 23:49:14 | [Saint] | Its working here. |
| 23:49:27 | polemon | I don't have an SD card |
| 23:49:36 | [Saint] | I was talking to pixelma, sorry. |
| 23:49:43 | polemon | ah, ok |
| 23:49:44 | n1s | polemon: then it's probably just something that got changed in the theme syntax |
| 23:50:10 | polemon | well, could it be, that I use an iPod nano 2g? |
| 23:50:14 | n1s | you either have to wait for someone to update them or work out how to do it yourself |
| 23:50:21 | polemon | or is the age of the device, etc no issue? |
| 23:50:33 | [Saint] | No. |
| 23:50:35 | n1s | polemon: not if those themes were intended for that display size |
| 23:50:38 | polemon | doing it myself wouldn't be much of a problem |
| 23:50:52 | polemon | they were, I checked on the rockbox page |
| 23:51:00 | n1s | there's a page in the wiki called CustomWPS that describes the syntax |
| 23:51:02 | pixelma | I guess it's the "progressbar needs an own viewport" issue, been there for a while but so is cabbiev3 |
| 23:51:08 | polemon | and the theme itself works, all text is displayed correctly |
| 23:51:35 | Torne | the progress bar is part of the theme, so no |
| 23:51:38 | Torne | the theme does not work :) |
| 23:52:59 | [Saint] | All you can do is a: Hope the theme maintainer fixes it someday before it fails to parse and is dumped off the themesite, or b: learn to use the Rockbox theme syntax, and fix it yourself. |
| 23:54:05 | polemon | well, like I said, I might get into themes once I'm happy with using RockBox, etc |
| 23:54:42 | [Saint] | We have many fine resources to assist you. |
| 23:54:45 | polemon | is it safe do delete the iPod_Control folder on the device? |
| 23:54:53 | pixelma | [Saint]: ok, got it loading for now. Is the scrollbar in lists themed or what Rockbox provides? |
| 23:54:55 | polemon | or will it render it useless after that? |
| 23:55:23 | n1s | polemon: it's safe but might reappear if you start the Original Firmware |
| 23:55:33 | [Saint] | polemon: Its safe. |
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| 23:56:11 | [Saint] | It will be recreated if you boot the Apple firmware, or plug it in to a computer (in disk mode) with iTunes running. |
| 23:56:36 | [Saint] | pixelma: Its just the "in core" scrollbar. |
| 23:56:45 | [Saint] | Scrollbars aren't themeable (yet). |
| 23:59:00 | [Saint] | I'd really like feedback on a: the touch areas (are they usable?), b: general appearence (is it pretty? Could X, Y or Z be better?), and c: the implementation (what could/should be done differently?) |
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