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#rockbox log for 2011-10-25

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00:05:25bertriksaratoga, I don't quite remember, I dumped it from within rockbox IIRC
00:05:40saratogaoh?
00:05:43saratogado you have code to do that?
00:06:27aussahi, can I shuffle between albums using rockbox?
00:07:55bertriksaratoga, I did this sometime in april this year, can't really remember how I did it, maybe I modified an existing dumper plugin. It's basically 128k of memory marked in the datasheet as "internal ROM"
00:08:38saratogaah dumps the memory mapped rom, not the flash rom
00:11:36pixelmaaussa: look up "random folder advance" in our manual
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00:17:56dfktJdGordon, your name's in the copyright of settings_list.c and .h - do you know a quick way of increasing scroll speed?
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00:20:06JdGordondfkt: change the setting?
00:20:41dfkti changed the maximum from 15 to 25. it shows up fine in the settings menu, but it doesn't increase speed
00:21:19sillytonesdid you try turning it off and back on again?
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00:22:12dfktanything above scroll speed 15 behaves like scroll speed 1
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00:22:22aussapixelma, thank you :D
00:24:52JdGordondfkt: probably because that setting needs more magic done
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00:26:22dfkti thought so - yet i didn't find where the magic links to. settings.c/.h and screen_access.c refer to scroll speed as well, but nothing that would change anything, as far as i can see
00:27:11dfktsettings.h even mentions "scroll speed 1-30" in a comment, which probably is not up to date
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00:29:42saratogasorry i'm no help either, i think you probably know more about the wps code at this point then i do
00:30:22dfktcheers :)
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00:36:27sillytonesnobody knows how the scroll goes
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01:02:13[Saint]Bah! No one noticed scroll speed isn't a valid config option for themes (wrt themesite?)
01:02:36[Saint]s/?)/)?/
01:04:18JdGordonhow is it a theme setting?
01:05:39[Saint]I guess I missinterpreted what dfkt was trying to do.
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01:25:27[Saint]Are my posts being eaten by the spam filter?
01:25:41[Saint]I can't seem to see my latest post in the forum.
01:26:07[Saint]it _should_ be in http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,29106.msg185531.html#msg185531
01:28:01[Saint]Humm...now it finally popped up :-S
01:28:05[Saint]twice.
01:28:56[Saint]Wait...what? Nope.
01:29:24[Saint]I can see it if I hit "Reply" in the thread. But its not in Recent Posts, or visiblew inthe thread without replying.
01:30:03sillytonesI don't see yours, justsaratoga's
01:30:30[Saint]Yeah...hit reply, without actually replying, though.
01:30:41[Saint]see if you see it in the post list then.
01:31:41[Saint]I can see it if I hit 'Reply", actually two of them, that its decided to merge.
01:32:02[Saint]<grumble>SMF</grumble>
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01:36:04[Saint]Fixed! Thanks to the lovely and talented AlexP poking Akismet in the guts
01:36:22[Saint]Seems it thought I was a nasty spammer.
01:36:24AlexPIt was pretty damn complicated
01:36:32AlexPI clicked "Not spam" :)
01:52:33sillytonesdon't you love the sea monster picture on the sansa site :/
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02:38:42[Saint]alexbobp: New version available on the tracker
02:38:47[Saint]FS #12254
02:38:48fs-bluebothttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12254 3RaaA cabbiev2 [Full Touch Application Port] (patches, new)
02:39:46[Saint](Nothing really "major", just getting my current work into the wild...a few alignment fixes and a couple of c/p fail fixes)
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03:47:26sillytonesis 3.9.1 still the latest stable release
03:47:36JdGordonyes
03:47:51sillytonesi have a bug i want to report but I want to be sure i'm using the lastest release
03:48:47sillytonesis flyswatter the place to put up bugs about themes
03:49:11biasedperI'm somewhat confused on how to get korean/japanese/chinese characters to display. How do I check if they are unicode or not?
03:49:37sillytonesbiasedper: did you get a the font package and a theme that can support them?
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04:09:04biasedperI installed the font package
04:09:21biasedperhow do I tell which theme supports them?
04:10:04sillytonesbiasedper: what player are you using?
04:10:09biasedpersansa clip+
04:11:44sillytonesoh cool same as me. hold on
04:12:28sillytonestake a look through here http://themes.rockbox.org/index.php?target=sansaclip
04:13:27saratogaif you just want a font that covers a lot of languages, try unifont
04:14:05biasedpersillytones: i found one I liked
04:14:07biasedperhttp://themes.rockbox.org/index.php?themeid=1420&target=sansaclip
04:14:21biasedpersaratoga: I don't understand how to install fontsother then the font package
04:14:36sillytonesone of the ones with asian char support
04:14:49saratogaonce you've installed the font package, you can go to settings and change the font to any of the ones on the player
04:15:11saratogaalthough if you pick a font thats much different then the one your current theme is made for, the UI might look weird
04:15:27sillytonesbiasedper: while you're installing themes, might want to grab some explicitly designed for asian character support as backup
04:15:49sillytonessaratoga: is flyswatter the place to report bugs in themes?
04:16:03biasedpersilly what do you mean one with asian char support
04:16:08biasedperoh i see
04:16:09biasedpernm'
04:16:22saratogaflyspray?
04:16:31sillytonesyeah, sorry
04:16:40saratogaaside from the stock theme, no
04:17:25sillytonessaratoga: I found a fairly annoying problem in botio, which existed as far back as 3.7.1, where would I report it
04:17:50sillytonesthe artist and track information flicker and disappear from the WPS
04:18:11saratogacontact the author
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04:21:37sillytonessaratoga: the theme page doesn't have contact info, but Matthieu Bedouet is the author
04:22:05saratogaok
04:24:31biasedperanother problem i had is when i transferred over these files it completely fubar'd the entire player, i couldn't delete any of the files even using cmd prompt, how can I avoid this? the song filenames are in english. here's a screenshot of it : http://i.imgur.com/0OiwK.jpg
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04:25:12saratogathats probably a corrupt file system
04:25:50[Saint]biasedper: Sounds like your filesystem is toast. You can avoid help avoid this by always safely removing/ejecting the player after transferring files to it.
04:27:55[Saint]"saratogaalthough if you pick a font thats much different then the one your current theme is made for, the UI might look weird"
04:28:03[Saint]the theme may also actively ignore it.
04:28:30[Saint]If the theme loads its own fonts, it doesn't matter what the userfont is set to.
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04:41:43frank_Is it possible to use the 'record' function to capture audio with a microphone plugged in to the headphone jack on a 5g ipod video?
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04:44:54biasedperI've got japanese and korean working but it doesn't show chinese characters. I put it on GNU-Unifont too
04:44:59biasedperis there anyway I can have all three working at once?
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04:54:54saratogabiasedper: probably something wrong with your source if only chinese doesn't work
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04:58:10sillytoneshmm funman saw my memo about unbricking my clip+ and said to just use the wiki and ask here for help
04:58:52sillytonesso since I've already asked everyone here, I guess I'll just wait until funman is in the channel
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07:21:24[Saint]kugel: ping?
07:21:56[Saint]Why won't the line padding patch allow a partial line to be displayed unless the user is scrolling lists?
07:23:28[Saint]ie. If the UI viewport allows for the display of 10 lines before padding is applied, and then padding is applied and only 8.7 (just a random number) lines can be displayed, then only "full" lines are drawn. In this fantasy case, it would only draw 8 lines.
07:24:02[Saint]but as soon as the user starts to scroll the lists, the .7 line would be shown.
07:25:07JdGordonthe more correct question is why does the .7 get shown when scrolling
07:25:40[Saint]?
07:26:45[Saint]the "correct" question (IMO) is "why are partial lines only displayed while scrolling?"
07:27:44JdGordonthe inbuilt lists never *ever* drew partial lines, kinetic scrolling changed that
07:28:31[Saint]I think its nice that it does do it, personally. It the user has the scrollbar turned off it gives an indication that the list continues.
07:28:41[Saint]*If the
07:29:11JdGordonI'm not saying that it shouldnt, just that it should always or never
07:29:30[Saint]without displayign a partial line, and with a significant amount of padding, it can look as though the UI viewport is a lot shorter than it actually is.
07:29:32JdGordonyou're blaming the line padding patch which is incorrect
07:29:36[Saint]That's the problem I have with it.
07:29:59[Saint]Hum...I'd only noticed this behaviour since the line padding.
07:30:51[Saint]I seem to recall partial lines being displayed fine before this, apparently I'm wrong, but my recollection tells me it used to draw the partial line.
07:32:36JdGordonjust tried on my phone which is pre-line padding and AFAICT they dont show unless scrolling
07:33:06[Saint]Hum...
07:33:11*[Saint] retracts the statement.
07:33:42JdGordonno!
07:33:49JdGordonit is still an issue...
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07:34:58[Saint]I need to take a screenshot to measure it...but it looks as though the scrollbar only draws the length of full lines that can be displayed in the UI viewport.
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07:35:39JdGordonno, scrollbar draws the full viewport height
07:36:11[Saint]My perception must be all out of whack then. It doesn't look like its doing so here.
07:36:15kugelp[Saint]: pong?
07:37:06[Saint]kugelp: nevermind. I thought I'd found something with the line padding patch, but it turns out the behaviour extends far past that.
07:38:29kugelpokay :-)
07:39:18kugelpyea it doesnt do partial lines if the pixels offset is zero
07:40:12kugelpI made it as to not introduce a special case for touch screen and to not change that behavior for native targets there
07:40:27kugelpcould/should be changed perhaps
07:40:34kugelpit can be awkward
07:40:49JdGordonbetter to fix kinetic scrolling in skin lists
07:41:07[Saint]displaying partial lines is nice, IMO. It looks weird when you start scrolling a list and 3/4 of a line suddenly pops into view.
07:41:35[Saint]though, its hardly an issue of great importance.
07:41:52[Saint](considering other fun bugs Rockbox has presently)
07:42:46[Saint]I've recently discovered that config.cfg changes don't seem to be being saved. I need to test this on more targets/under more conditions.
07:43:11[Saint]I seem to recall amiconn noticing this a while ago.
07:48:26kugelpI think there was an issue with the shut down procedure?
07:52:45Buschel08:38*amiconn needs to cross check this on other targets, but with voice enabled, he has to *always* use the paperclip at shutdown
07:57:37[Saint]kugelp: This is on my phone...its definitely shutting down ok via idle timeout. But the config doesn't seem to be getting saved.
07:58:09[Saint]I need to test on non-application targets when I get home/aren't busy.
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09:39:10kugelXP got 10 years old. Isn't Rockbox also about 10 years old?
09:46:44Zagoryep
09:48:10kugelwe should celebrate!
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09:50:02ZagorI'll buy some cake next devcon :-)
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11:00:57kugelsaratoga: FS #12348
11:00:58fs-bluebothttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12348 3[New Port] Samsung YP-R0: the first patches (patches, unconfirmed)
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11:09:22Zagordiffstat is horribly buggy. why is it not showing the path?
11:10:04Zagorahh, -p0 does what I want
11:10:13*Zagor fixes flyspray
11:11:03Zagormuch better
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11:23:11kugelZagor: does that work for git patches too?
11:23:27ZagorI think so
11:24:05kugelit shows b/ before other paths
11:24:32Zagordiffstat should just show whatever is in the diff file
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13:04:37pamaurywould it be ok if in rbutil/mkimxboot I include files from utils/sbtools/ ? I want to avoid code duplication of course...
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14:41:53JdGordonwhy does the video's scrollwheel feel so slow when the cpu isnt boosted?
14:42:21JdGordonis the display so slow and not keeping up? or is it the actual wheel?
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14:56:31kugelJdGordon: yes
14:58:15kugelthe cpu is too slow
14:58:52Zagormaybe someone could look into speeding up the boost call, so we could use it in short burts... ;-)
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15:00:12JdGordonwasnt boosting on pp pretty much free and CF was the targets which blocked th eidea?
15:00:31ZagorI don't remember
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15:01:17ZagorI don't recall there were really any problems with it, only fear of problems
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15:02:06*JdGordon finds FS #8668
15:02:07fs-bluebothttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8668 3battery runtime: experimental gui boost (patches, assigned)
15:05:56JdGordonok, why the heck does cabbie work completly fine with the sim build, buton target i dont get the sbs backdrop? :/
15:06:32JdGordoni can see the damn buflib allocation there... grrr
15:09:51kugelare the voice related bugs posted anywhere? I want to have a look in my little spare time (i.e. on the train ride)
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15:22:50ZagorI have asked amiconn for it a number of times, but he doesn't seem to want to write it down
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16:39:12dfkti'm trying to resync fs#12075. it works fine, but creating a .diff to upload to the tracker is a bit tricky, since another patch (sleep timer) shares the same space: http://pastie.org/2756531
16:39:13fs-bluebothttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12075 3Add timeout to quickscreen (patches, unconfirmed)
16:39:41dfktis there an easy way to 'split' that, or do i have to revert to a clean source and just apply that patch?
16:41:31Zagorclean source is usually the best way when creating a patch
16:42:21dfktok
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16:52:46dfktthat was definitely easier than manually going through the whole diff :)
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18:03:44saratoga_is there some reason the channel swap patch was never added to svn: http://pastie.org/2755554
18:03:59saratoga_i've seen it floating around but never any explination of why we don't support it
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18:22:17saratoga_also, FS #12338 seems useful to me, anyone dislike the implementation?
18:22:17fs-bluebothttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12338 3Option to restart running sleep timer on keypress (patches, unconfirmed)
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18:23:03bertrikmeh, do we need yet another sleep timer option?
18:23:11saratoga_ha
18:23:26saratoga_is there a reason not to?
18:24:10saratoga_seems like cluttering the time and date menu isn't much of a problem
18:24:31bertrikit's yet another option that has very little to do with audio playback
18:24:57bertrikhow many more sleep timer options will come next?
18:26:06bertrikI don't mind it *that* much, as long as I can avoid the clutter, but it just feels like feature bloat
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18:26:34saratoga_feature bloat is really only a problem if it gets in the way
18:26:53saratoga_the time and date menu is easily ignored by everyone else
18:26:56saratoga_at least thats my take
18:27:37saratoga_and really we only have "start on boot" and "duration" as the settings now
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18:35:37saratoga_why do we implement volume balancing by adjusting the individual channel DAC gains rather then just digitally attenuating one channel?
18:36:05saratoga_ignoring the problems that will cause using line out, it also means things like channel swap will invert the balance logic
18:36:41kugelwhy are some bugs red colored and sorted at the top of the task list?
18:36:53kugelboth severity and priority are normal
18:37:02saratoga_i've been wondering that for years
18:37:22kugelah I see. the non-red have severity = low
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18:53:32kugelI'm unable to reproduce FS #12325. I was able before
18:53:32fs-bluebothttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12325 3e200v1 screen corruption after USB connection since r30475 (bugs, new)
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19:00:51kugelffs, I hate when bugs don't happen in the sim but on target
19:02:02kugeland different behavior. like playback not stopping in the sim when entering usb or recording ...
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19:03:05kugeldebugging this is going to suck :'(
19:03:28*kugel is talking about FS #12241 btw
19:03:29fs-bluebothttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12241 3Voice menus stop working after return to menu from recording screen (bugs, new)
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19:40:36saratogalinuxstb: did you write that channel swap patch?
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19:43:44[Saint]What is the standard convention for patches adding (a) new string(s) to english.lang? Do I steal the position of (a) depricated string(s) if possible, or always append to the bottom, always add to the top? Other?
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20:41:57mortalisI want to start new hifiman hm801 port. hm60x and hm801 targets have same lcd. Would it be ok if I move lcd driver from hm60x to rk27xx folder?
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20:43:07saratoga_i don't see why not
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20:45:29Zagormortalis: sure
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20:50:42saratoga_Zagor: do we have recent download stats for rockbox?
20:50:59Zagoranything in particular you wonder?
20:51:09saratoga_just wondering which targets get the most downloads
20:51:17ZagorI'll take a peek
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20:54:08Zagorclip+ has a comfortable lead in october, followed by ipodvideo, fuzev2, e200 & nano2g
20:54:46Zagoraug and sep looked the same
20:54:50saratoga_how many downloads for the clip+?
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20:55:17Zagor~9000/month
20:55:54saratoga_nice
20:55:55y4nclip+ ftw
20:56:31saratoga_so probably over 100k a year just for that one device
20:56:55Urnethat is pretty impressive
20:57:02saratoga_do you have stats for the bootloader downloads?
20:57:22saratoga_presumably those are closer to the number of unique users
20:57:47Zagor>10k clip+ bootloaders in oct
20:58:19saratoga_more then rockbox downloads?
20:58:43Zagoryup. no theory :-)
20:59:17saratoga_lots of people failing at the bootloader install :)
20:59:29saratoga_still very impressive for such an old target
20:59:41Zagor86k clip+ bootloaders in 2011
20:59:54saratoga_wow
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21:00:29saratoga_next time one of those sandisk people messages me i'll remind them that we have easily 100k users for a single one of their devices
21:00:41saratoga_then bug them for docs
21:00:52Zagorhave fun :-)
21:01:54saratoga_at very least they should send us some clip zip players already :)
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21:21:36bertriksaratoga_, I'm struggling with the sd code now, I'll have another look at the USB code
21:21:45bertriknot quite clear if they use interrupts in the boot code
21:22:05bertriklooks like they poll for sd code
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21:48:58bluebrother^Zagor: is it possible to automatically generate montly graphs from the download stats? That would be neat :)
21:49:22Zagorbluebrother^: sure. are you volunteering? :-)
21:49:55bluebrother^is there some kind of stats csv or the like available?
21:50:21bluebrother^might be fun to play around with perl a bit and create some graphs. Or use python.
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21:54:27Zagorbluebrother^: I can give you a file for playing with
21:55:09bluebrother^Zagor: that would be nice
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23:13:29DarkoHello!
23:13:44Darkocan someone help me with dd command pls?
23:13:54Darkotrying to restore Sansa Clip v2
23:13:59Darkotried this:
23:14:00Darkoubuntu@ubuntu:~$ dd if=/dev/sda1/m30pa.bin of=/dev/sdb dd: opening `/dev/sda1/m30pa.bin': Not a directory
23:14:09Darkoand some variations but nothing
23:14:54Darkowhere am I wrong?
23:16:31Darkoanyone?
23:16:49bluebrother^you can't read a file from a device.
23:17:18Darkoso what should I do? mount it somehow?
23:17:21bluebrother^regardless that I don't think dd'ing the firmware file to the player is the way to go: the if= part is wrong
23:17:54bluebrother^and _if_ you want to dd it to the player you're likely to want dd'ing it to a partition on the player. Otherwise you'll overwrite the partition table
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23:19:26bluebrother^what instructions are you following?
23:19:28Darkothis is from SansaAMSunbrick page
23:19:29Darkohttp://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaAMSUnbrick
23:19:41Darkosecond bold title
23:20:21bluebrother^well, that if= part doesn't say something with /dev, does it?
23:20:47bluebrother^ah, seems you can dd the firmware to the recovery partition.
23:21:03*bluebrother^ wasn't aware of that
23:21:06Darkoi cant type in right syntax
23:21:15bluebrother^why not?
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23:21:27Darkomy OF m30pa.bin is on my hard disk partition
23:21:40Darkoi want to put it on player
23:21:41bluebrother^so what?
23:21:55Darkothe first part with if command −− i dont know it
23:21:57bluebrother^then use the correct path to the firmware file
23:22:01Darkoi am new to linux
23:22:06bluebrother^if = input file
23:22:08Darkoand dd −− dont know that
23:22:11Darkocan you help
23:22:36bluebrother^well, as I said. That if= part in your command line is wrong
23:22:52bluebrother^and you need to have the firmware file available somewhere in the filesystem
23:22:54AlexPDarko: Where is that file?
23:23:07AlexPI imagine you want /home/Darko/file.bin or somesuch
23:23:12bluebrother^just download the file first using wget ...
23:23:34Darkohttp://pastebin.com/TyKAEhQy
23:23:39Darkohere are my drives
23:23:55Darkoit is on a 7 GB partition (on windows that is my C: root)
23:23:58bluebrother^err ... your partition table doesn't help
23:24:09AlexPIt needs mounting
23:24:13Darkook
23:24:16Darkohow to mount?
23:24:22AlexPIf you click on it in your file browser it should do it automatically
23:24:26bluebrother^type mount, and check the output if it contains sda1
23:24:37Darkoon .bin file right?
23:24:45AlexPeh?
23:25:05Darkoon what to click to mount −− bin image or partition? :)
23:25:05AlexPIf you can navigate to the bin file in a file browser then the drive is mounted
23:25:16bluebrother^Darko: if you type "mount" on the command line, does the output contain a line saying something with "sda1"?
23:25:20Darkosorry, i am not aware ven how stupid my questions are :)
23:25:27AlexPtype "mount" as bluebrother^ says, and pastebin the output
23:26:53Darkohttp://pastebin.com/bt3aFnf8
23:26:55Darkohere it is
23:27:18AlexPOK
23:27:51bluebrother^mkdir /tmp/sda1 && mount /dev/sda1 /tmp/sda1
23:28:00bluebrother^where did you put the file on the Windows partition?
23:28:10bluebrother^Desktop? My Documents?
23:28:10Darkoin the root
23:28:17AlexPbluebrother^: Probably need sudo for that
23:28:20Darkono, C:\
23:28:35DarkoC:\m30pa.bin
23:28:36bluebrother^ls -l /tmp/sda1/
23:28:45bluebrother^that should contain the file then
23:28:49Darkowait wait guts and galls
23:29:02Darkoyou typed so many lines
23:29:05bluebrother^ok
23:29:07Darkowhat to execute
23:29:10bluebrother^you do the following:
23:29:14bluebrother^mkdir /tmp/sda1 && mount /dev/sda1 /tmp/sda1
23:29:17bluebrother^ls -l /tmp/sda1/
23:29:27Darkook
23:29:28bluebrother^then you should see the file listed
23:30:08Darkoi typed first line it says "only root can do that"
23:30:19bluebrother^ok, then do the following first:
23:30:21bluebrother^sudo su -
23:30:31Darkodone
23:30:53bluebrother^now the mount line should work.
23:30:57Darkonot is says
23:31:00Darkomkdir /tmp/sda1 && mount /dev/sda1 /tmp/sda1
23:31:08Darkocannot create dir file exists
23:31:21bluebrother^ah, you already created the folder.
23:31:21Darko*now* (not)
23:31:30bluebrother^mount /dev/sda1 /tmp/sda1
23:31:47Darkodone
23:31:55bluebrother^ls -l /tmp/sda1
23:32:03Darkohow to check?
23:32:17bluebrother^does the output contain the firmware file?
23:32:28Darkoyes
23:32:50Darkohttp://pastebin.com/JSnRGdWR
23:33:07Darkom30pa.bin
23:33:12bluebrother^dd if=/tmp/sda1/m30pa.bin of=/dev/sdb
23:33:23Darkook
23:33:47DarkoGod help :)
23:33:57Darkonow to wait?
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23:34:18bluebrother^no idea how the player reacts on this. That's been the dd part described on the wiki :)
23:34:46Darkohow long to leave it like that? i mean not to interrupt
23:34:48bluebrother^I'd unplug the player now and see what happens.
23:34:48Darkoaha
23:34:51Darkoit finished
23:35:26Darkohttp://pastebin.com/gMxd33Q9
23:35:31bluebrother^the wiki doesn't describe what's supposed to happen and I don't have a clipv2 :)
23:35:48Darkolook at pastebin
23:35:51bluebrother^well yes, you need to wait until dd finished its work :)
23:35:57Darkoit says 16MB copied
23:36:06Darkook, now its save to unplug?
23:36:12bluebrother^I guess so.
23:36:20bluebrother^at least you wrote the firmware.
23:36:28Darkoi guess, there is no "safe remove hardware" like on Win :))
23:36:36AlexPof course there is
23:36:45bluebrother^well, not really
23:36:46AlexPBut you don't need it here
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23:36:56Darkook
23:36:58bluebrother^you need to unmount the player on Linux, but since you haven't mounted it you can just unplug it
23:37:07saratoga_funman said that his player wouldn't boot if you just DD'ed the firmware update file
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23:37:20bluebrother^that "safe remove" on Windows is similar to unmounting on Linux.
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23:37:31bluebrother^saratoga_: wow, sounds like fun :o
23:38:18Darkosaratoga i was told that by Saint last day
23:38:26Darkobut i dont have a full OF dump
23:38:41Darkoi couldn't find it and to be hones never seached for it in the forum
23:38:48Darkosomeone must have it
23:39:13Darkothis .bin is 15MB
23:39:27Darkoits pretty large file just for an update i think
23:41:34Darkoi still cannot turn it on (via USB, battery is still unsoldered)
23:41:41Darkobut something definitly changed
23:41:48Darkousing funman script for real time monitoring
23:41:52Darkoi see new line
23:42:22Darko"[ 2321.468924] scsi 5:0:0:0: Direct-Access SanDisk Sansa Clip 1GB v02. PQ: 0 ANSI: 0"
23:42:44Darkoso it is recognised as Sansa Clip
23:42:56Darkothat line was not there before when I plugged it in
23:43:37Darkoguys
23:43:38Darkoit
23:43:44Darkoworks!!!
23:43:52DarkoMY sANSA IS BACK!!!!
23:43:55DarkoOOPS
23:43:57 Part Zagor
23:43:59Darkocaps sry
23:44:27DarkoIf you ever come in Belgrade, Serbia I'll get you a bear or whatever you are drinking!
23:44:38AlexPNot a bear thanks :)
23:44:39Darkophew
23:44:44Darkoanyone there still?
23:44:48AlexPBeer on the other hand...
23:45:03AlexPI'm glad you got it going
23:45:08Darkooh thank you AlexP, thank you bluebrother!
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23:45:34Darkoand thanks to Saint, bertrik and other guys here who helped me
23:45:44bluebrother^you're welcome
23:45:53AlexPI did nothing, but you're welcome all the same :)
23:45:55DarkoI will try to compile recovery guide so other folks will have less trouble as me
23:46:05Darkoyes you did
23:46:16Darkoand bluebrother helped alot with syntax stuff
23:46:25Darkogee i am so happy
23:46:45Darkothese past few days were devastating for my self-esteam :)
23:47:04Darkook
23:47:22Darkoif you want to listen some of my original music as a little way to thank you
23:47:26Darkovisit my hompage
23:47:28saratoga_perhaps copying a firmware update file will work if the rest of the reserved space is zeroed first
23:47:31Darkowww.darkoangeleski.co.cc
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23:47:54Darkosaratoga i dont understand what you mean?
23:48:20Darkoaha about that thing with full OF vs update?
23:50:14Darkopeople I am thanking all again
23:50:39Darkoits almst midnight here and I have to go
23:50:50DarkoI will write about this procedure tommorow on the forum
23:50:57Darkoto help others
23:51:05Darkosee you all and take care!
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23:51:56bertriknice to hear it worked out eventually
23:52:54bertrikso, the clipv2 apparently doesn't need to be partitioned before dd-ing the OF firmware
23:54:04bertrikyet the whole procedure seems to rely a bit on black magic
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23:55:35Darkoalso Clip v2 (at least this 1 GB version) reported as 1027MB drive, Saint was puzzled and doubted it will work
23:55:57Darkobecause 30MB "hidden" partition wasn't reveald. Nevertheless, it worked!
23:56:00saratoga_bertrik: the reserve area is bigger then the OF binary, so I bet the key is to zero the storage right after the OF image so that it doesn't have leftover state when it tries to boot
23:56:24Darkothe most confusing part for me is that mounting procedure we did this evening and *if* part of dd command
23:57:33Darkoi am a Linux newbie, but after this will try to invest some time to learn Unix OS
23:57:36saratoga_wasn't the command you ended up using identical to the one on the wiki?
23:57:44Darkonope
23:57:49saratoga_what was different?
23:57:59Darkodd if=/tmp/sda1/m30pa.bin of=/dev/sdb
23:58:09Darkowell, it was identical
23:58:13saratoga_yeah
23:58:16Darkobut the procedure was much complicated
23:58:32AlexPIt depends on your knowledge
23:58:54Darkofor a linux newbie its not easy to mount a drive or partition
23:58:59saratoga_so the entire problem here was just figuring out the mount point of your player?

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