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#rockbox log for 2011-11-07

00:02:55bertrikjhMikeS, I think we can just mutex the si4700_read and write functions, because basically all calls eventually go through that
00:08:08jhMikeSmight as well not have them then
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01:36:18andrejIs the developer pamaury sometimes in this channel?
01:36:59JdGordonquite often
01:37:30JdGordonhe went offline about 90min ago
01:37:36andrejOk, so I jjust missed him... Have some problems regarding his experimental fuzeplus support.
01:37:42andrejYes, thought so.
01:38:20andrejI'm pretty sure that I just made some dumb beginner error which is easy to solve, but I don't know which. :D
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03:02:53[Saint]If the Fuze's mainboard says "REV 1.41" I have a V1?
03:05:02funman[Saint]: check fuze pics on the wiki, i'm pretty sure i had a rev 1.41 fuze
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03:31:05[Saint]Bah! I can get scrolling...according to voice working...working, but not the buttonlight.
03:31:09[Saint]Any suggestions?
03:31:26[Saint]I'm assuming its a missaligned zif connector for the clickwheel.
03:31:44[Saint]funman: Any tips on re-inserting the clickwheel ribbon?
03:55:08saratogause a pair of long tweezers, shut the case most of the way and then manipulate the ribbon into the connector
03:58:12[Saint]trying exactly that :-S
03:58:26[Saint]I just can't seem to get the wheel light functioning again.
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05:21:18JdGordonjhMikeS: saratoga: Unhelpful: <other code smart people>: know a better way to do what im doing in the mailing list thread?
05:21:35JdGordonor is it not as bad as i think it is?
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05:22:51saratogai don't know why you'd ask me, i barely know how to program
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05:24:16saratogabut i guess macros make the most sense
05:24:54UnhelpfulI'm *what*, now?
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05:25:36JdGordonok i admit it, i just named people i thought were online :p
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05:28:24saratogai guess the basic idea is that you want to have some kind of macro that converts a relative location into some kind of c pointer?
05:28:42saratogaoff hand that seems like a good solution but i'm not too familar with that code
05:28:48JdGordonyeah, ideally with some way of making sure you are getting the right pointer type
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05:32:41jhMikeSJdGordon: which one in particular?
05:32:51JdGordon?
05:33:03jhMikeSml thread
05:33:10JdGordondev obviously :)
05:33:22jhMikeSskin engine 2.0?
05:33:25JdGordonyeah
05:34:03JdGordonIdeally i want a macro which will give a compile warning if you use the wrong type but i doubt it is possible
05:34:38JdGordondiong a runtime check is easy, but pointless
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05:45:30jhMikeSI'm not sure what gives it a "type". It looks like to/from an offset into a generic buffer
05:46:30JdGordonit is, which is why i tihnk its not possible to do what I want
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06:07:00[Saint]Ok...what the hell? I just installed Rockbox on my LCDless fuze (turns out I didn't break it) and there's still included themes other than cabbie.
06:07:38[Saint]boxes, dancepuff duo, iCatcher, Rockboxed, Unicatcher
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06:08:27[Saint]Oh! Derp! I probably installed the release ;)
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06:11:43JdGordonyou're getting a "should be working" fuze in the next few days... surely you'd rather work on a awesome cabbie.sbs using skin lists no?
06:11:52JdGordonor a 1024*768 theme? :)
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06:22:01[Saint]I suppose the HP touchpad "just so happens to be" 1024x768 huh? ;)
06:22:33JdGordona mere coincidence :)
06:39:20[Saint]Is the Fuze supposed to *not* go into USB mode if plugged when the player is off?
06:39:24[Saint](V1)
06:39:53[Saint]My assumption is that this isn't desired behaviour. If it *is*, I can't really see the reasoning for it.
06:40:15JdGordonams doesnt have bootloader usb by default iirc
06:40:45[Saint]It does indeed seem to have bootloader USB. Its hard to confirm with no LCD, but I seem to have discovered it.
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06:45:54[Saint]I think it might be a fallback case though, similar to that which the iPods have where if the bootloader is present but the binary isn't it can mount to allow you to fix it.
06:46:49[Saint]I'll poke at it some more assuming Australian Post gets its act into gear soon ;)
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07:09:43UnhelpfulJdGordon: it probably breaks coding style, but, compile-time assert in C: http://www.jaggersoft.com/pubs/CVu11_3.html
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07:11:29JdGordoneewww
07:11:36JdGordondon't think that would work for what I want anyway
07:15:09UnhelpfulWorks for anything const, otherwise you can't check at compile anyway.
07:15:26[Saint]*Weird* bug...
07:15:43[Saint]"back" doesn't work in USB charge only mode on the Fuze
07:15:53[Saint]s/back/<</
07:18:14[Saint]Yep...wow, that's bloody weird.
07:19:01[Saint]Assuming that's confirmed...that's not something one wants to push into the release branch...is it?
07:19:19*[Saint] feels a little guilty about finding this now ;)
07:21:02saratogai still don't understand why the Clip (and only the Clip) doesn't update the screen if test_codec finishes with the back light off
07:21:06saratogaevery other player is ok with that
07:21:18saratogabut the clip just keeps showing whatever was on the screen when the light went off
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07:21:58[Saint]saratoga: You don't happen to have a V1 Fuze, do you?
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07:22:04saratogai do
07:22:32[Saint]If you could, when you get a chance, could you check if << works in USB charge only mode?
07:22:40[Saint](in current SVN head)
07:23:43[Saint]Shit...whoops: +Please & Thankyou.
07:24:16saratogait should
07:24:31saratogai changed the charge mode logic a while ago to accept any button
07:24:38saratogaso it shouldn't matter what you press
07:24:56[Saint]No no...I mean, when the device is in charge only mode, I can't back out of any menu using <<
07:25:15[Saint]unplug, and Bam! << magically works again.
07:26:16[Saint]Sorry, I was a little vague with my initial description.
07:27:37saratogait works as expected with r30835-111023
07:27:41saratogais that new enough?
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07:28:15[Saint]I'm on 30925
07:29:43[Saint]pressing "select" is also causing it to leave the USB HID mode its in...not sure if that's intentional or not.
07:30:00[Saint](when its connected as an HID device)
07:31:21saratoga[Saint]: with current build << works as expected while in charger mode
07:32:01[Saint]Hummm....something is *seriously* messed up in this install somehow then. I can't see how, I used RButil.
07:32:09saratogaok got my clip+ locked at FCLK=PCLK=40MHz, going to try a battery bench
07:32:51saratogavoltages are default, but in theory they could be lowered some since FCLK is lower, but for now i'll just worry about stock settings
07:37:01[Saint]Ahhhhhh...shit.
07:37:15[Saint]Looks like I have to do a bisect.
07:37:46[Saint]the current release works as expected, svn head has this weirdness with USB.
07:38:16[Saint]with a little luck I'll have a target with an LCD for this tomorrow.
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08:35:19JdGordonSooooooo....... branch and unfreeze?
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08:38:57ZagorJdGordon: sounds good to me
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10:18:26CIA-22New commit by 03pamaury (r30926): fuze+: fix typo in lcd init sequence for second lcd type
10:20:35CIA-22r30926 build result: All green
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10:53:28rarogpamaury: it's perhaps faster to ask here. :D will you need the lcd dump for some further investigation and/or potential debugging even if the typo in lcd iniciation should fix my grey screen problem?
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10:56:01pamaurythe lcd dump will ensure that your lcd is indeed the one I'm expecting, it will avoid loosing time
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10:58:08pamauryrarog: but then just try to rebuild with the latest svn perhaps it will work
10:58:42rarogok, I'll try to recompile first.
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10:59:56rarogpaumary: and btw, I think that it's just the second type of lcd as it seems to work for three people including you but not me. I bought my fuze+ in germany.
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11:01:05rarogpamaury: perhaps all the european fuze+ use the second type.
11:01:39pamaurythat's my theory :)
11:02:31pamaurywe'll see, in all cases I was waiting for someone to pop out and say that one kind of lcd didn't work
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11:11:21rarogyeah. and i'm glad to help. I was waiting for some months for rockbox as it is in most cases superior to the original firmware and my wishes in the OF will be probably ignored. things like albumartist-tag which is useful for compilations.
11:11:56rarogat least with OF I can now use folder navigation tu circumvent this issue.
11:12:05rarog*to
11:12:43rarogand I'm waiting to see the very fast boot into rockbox and just play music at once. :D
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11:14:28rarogif the lcd starts to work I can provide an additional tester, as my gf has one fuze+ and is waiting for rockbox port, too. :)
11:21:21pamaurywhat is really useful is to stress the fuze+ with all the audio you have (and yes it will pop on boot unfortunately)
11:23:46rarogpop? you mean a sound heard in the headphones?
11:24:20rarogat least this is the case in the OF, it was always a signal for me that in another minute it's finally usable.
11:25:17pamauryif you boot rockbox with the headphones plugged in, it will "pop", it only happen one when charging the capacity and I'm unable to cancel it for now
11:25:29pamaurys/one/once
11:25:39pamauryit's not important, just annoying :)
11:27:04rarogyeah, but I'm used to the annoyance of the OF, so it won't be a big ussue for me, I think. :D
11:28:11rarogfor me it seems like an issue with hardware if it happens in rockbox AND the OF.
11:29:22pamauryin theory the chip as a pop cancellation procedure but it doesn't work apparently; also tell me if you feel the audio is of lesser quality or something, some audio parameters can be tweaked
11:30:03rarogyes, I can stress test it comparing it to the output of the OF.
11:33:11raroghm... rockbox still doesn't have video playback with MPEG4, but for this I can still use the OF which isn't a big issue. It was an issue for me some years ago when I user rockbox on ipod 5g as I refuesd to use itunes. fortunately fuze+ doesn't use any special software and special container, so falling back to OF is never an issue. (and I watch videos only rarely)
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11:49:40pamauryyes I don't know what is the state of mpegplayer, I never watch videos on my mp3 players, the screen is too small
11:51:09rarogI use to watch yellow submarine from time to time as the film doesn't require too many fine details, I know it completely and the pictures just complement the music. :D
11:52:19rarogbut as I said, in 99% of cases I just want to listen to music and use display to see the song name or to change the played song, so video function in rockbox has only low priority for me
11:55:09*JdGordon is amazingly about half way through the skin engine stuff he was saying was gong to be a massive rework! :p
11:59:53JdGordonso, who remembers how to do a svn branch? :)
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12:10:46[Saint]most of it could be done with clever scripting no?
12:11:11[Saint]its just a lot of replacing values hither and thither is it not, or is there more to it?
12:13:28JdGordonno
12:13:46JdGordonevery pointer neds to be carefully replaced
12:13:58JdGordonfortunately it is only half a dozen files, but still.. lots of boring work
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12:26:02kugelJdGordon: svn cp
12:29:43rarogpamaury: btw as for comparsion of sound output, wouldn't it be a possibility to record output of OF and rockbox on and then compare digitally?
12:30:02JdGordonkugel: wanna do it? :)
12:30:29kugelJdGordon: didn't get ci access back yet?
12:30:42JdGordondoing other stuff :p
12:30:48pamauryrarog: if your audio card is good enough yes, you can run some tools, I know nothing about it and but I know someone did it for the clip+. Otherwise you can use some specialized tools
12:30:52pamaury(hardware)
12:31:09JdGordonand if the upload isnt free it will tak ages to do the svn commit here
12:31:22kugelJdGordon: you can do it without local copy IIRC. svn cp <from-url> <to-url>
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13:01:21kugelokay, so as we've branched, can I get opinions on FS #12358?
13:01:21fs-bluebothttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12358 3Support for transparency in 32bit Bitmaps (patches, new)
13:02:46kugelI'd like to submit, but I expect it slows down resizing a bit
13:03:21kugeldrawing is slower too, but I added a "this image doesnt actually contain alpha information"-case which is drawn in the old&fast code path
13:03:50JdGordongot screenshots that actually show a useful difference?
13:04:59kugelplus, ultimatively, I want new icons using this, especially for RaaA (FS #12328 is useful for that too). that needs a decision on what to do with the existing icons. they a) dont have alpha infos, b) look a bit worse, c) have different icons than the one the tango script generates
13:05:00fs-bluebothttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12328 3move icons onto buflib and remove the 24x24 max iconsize limitation (patches, new)
13:09:42kugelJdGordon: http://imagebin.org/181579 (32bit) vs http://imagebin.org/181580 (svn, [Saint]'s icons)
13:10:35JdGordonthe "resume playback" arrow is the only one i can actually see a difference
13:10:52wodzI would say go commit. Alpha blending was looong discussed idea
13:11:25kugelwell, the database is pretty obvious (and has a shadow)
13:11:52kugelwodz: the alpha blending is already in svn actually. it's just enabling it for 32bit bitmaps
13:12:12[Saint]Awww..hell yeah. My iconset was a quick hack, I always intended to do soemthing better, but it was one of those "round-to-it" things.
13:13:26[Saint]these iconsets can be created with a nice script...and look a lot better than I could get them at varying resolutions without alpha blanding.
13:13:51[Saint]I'm all for it, its less work for me...and a prettier return.
13:14:15JdGordonif it speeds up 1024*768 cabbie go for it :)
13:15:54kugel[Saint]: I added resizing support, btw, but I suggest not usign it for icons
13:16:41kugelthe result is not so pretty. mostly ugly for upscaling, for downscaling only acceptable for non-odd factors (i.e. 1/2)
13:16:46[Saint]kugel: Right, yeah...I didn't think it'd look that great. Upsizing wouldn't bee too bad, though right?
13:17:00[Saint]Oh...I thought downscaled would look worse.
13:17:02[Saint]Hmmm.
13:17:27kugelon the pc you can create them from svg so the result is always better
13:17:54[Saint]kugel: Do you have some method of producing an iconset from cabbie sources for <arbitrary size>?
13:18:13[Saint]Getting some target specific sized icons in svn is long overdue.
13:18:34kugelwell, there's a script in svn
13:18:57[Saint]Ah, right. I thought you might have been using bluebrother's script...but wasn't sure.
13:19:06kugelit's a bit outdated, but point it to untarred tango set, specify icon size and let it go
13:19:19kugelI was using that
13:29:34kugelJdGordon: how far is the gui boost patch?
13:29:53JdGordoni didnt work on it since it was discussed
13:30:19kugelthe e200 needs it also if anti-aliased fonts are used. I suspect it's worsened (however I didnt notice anything major) with alpha icons
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14:39:24JdGordonDo we definitly want gui boost on wheel?
14:39:53kugelwhy only on wheel, btw?
14:40:24kugelshouldnt be any user interaction responsive and thus boosted?
14:40:35JdGordononly if it is actually needed
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14:57:22[Saint]Or, is that a: V2 only, or b: something I imagined?
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17:28:33bluebrotherthe tango iconset script isn't outdated anymore, I updated that some days ago
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17:30:41bluebrotheryay, that H10 reports 130% battery level :)
17:31:01kugelbluebrother: oh sorry!
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17:31:18kugelin the tango tarball I got the software-update icon was missing
17:31:50bluebrotheroh, maybe they changed that? The only missing icon is (was) the moved rockbox-clef.svg for me
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17:32:44ukleinekbluebrother: it will explode on 150%
17:32:51kugelbluebrother: well, I dont have an official tarball as the tango site is still unavailable
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17:34:27bluebrotherkugel: ah, that's the reason I can't find the tango website :)
17:35:39kugelI got them from here http://art.gnome.org/themes/icon/1150
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19:01:34metaphyshello I've got a problem with a FLAC file but I don't know If I'm supposed to file a but report because I used the file only for test purpose. After analysing it, it turns out that it is FLAC 32 bit surroud 5.1 (6 channel :D) one song is about 250 MB and the album weight like over 3 GB!! Is Rockbox supposed to handle such a monster ???
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19:02:28alienkidpamaury: I want to try the Fuze+ port can I do so on Windows? If not No problem I just need to use my VM. But I really came in here wanting to know how to REMOVE the ROM if it doesn't work or something
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19:04:22pamauryalienkid: yes you can try it under windows but it means someone has to build it for you (I can), remove the bootloader is also possible but you'll need to download a tool from freescale to do so because my tool doesn't work under windows yet
19:04:30pamaury*removing
19:05:07pamauryhum, thinking about it, you should be able to remove it even without the tool normally
19:06:00alienkidwould you mind building it for me or telling me how I can build it?
19:06:31alienkidalso would reapplying the sansa firmware remove it?
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19:07:49pamauryyes exactly, if you "update" it with the OF from sansa, it will remove it (by booting in the OF). Wait a minute I will upload a build
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19:09:30alienkidOK thank you.
19:09:41metaphysplus I have no idea how to split such a file to sent it in a bug report...
19:10:52pamaurymetaphys: can't to just copy a small fraction of it with an audio tool ?
19:11:39alienkidpamaury: how's the brick chance?
19:12:21pamauryyou can't brick it, you can also use the hardware recovery mode and all other people have reported success (at least can boot in the OF in any case)
19:13:04pamaury(by can't I mean, extremely unlikely except by doing crazy things that the code won't do anyway)
19:13:34alienkidok. HW recovery mode?
19:14:10pamauryif you plug usb with volume up hold, the device show up as a HID device in which you can upload code to it, so it's possible to recover
19:14:18metaphyspamaury: you mean like dding the file?
19:15:16metaphysi'm trying with gnusound but i can't find how to copy several channel
19:15:31alienkidso with the HW recovery mode I could boot to it temporarily or something?
19:15:45pamauryit's not that simple, you have to upload a recovery file which will then make the device show up as UMS in which you can dd the file (but there is an offset to get right also)
19:15:58metaphysbut primary I would like to know if it worth it, because it's not a 24 bit as I first thought: it's 32 bit!
19:16:33alienkidoh
19:16:35pamauryalienkid: theoretically yes, you could try rockbox without installing the bootloader
19:17:01alienkidpamaury: I'll stick with the normal method
19:17:39alienkidesp. if it's as easy as refreshing the original FW.
19:20:29alienkidpamaury: where will I be able to download it? Besides the normal manual update process anything else I need to do?
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19:21:22pamauryalienkid: I'm uploading the files because we do not provide bootloader for the fuze+ yet, but the file is 33MB so it takes a few moments
19:21:40alienkidok
19:21:55metaphysI have another question nothing to do with it... A font in a theme is missing some french caracter. I saw there's a converter from normal font format to rb font's file. How about reverse I need to edit the font in order to add the caracter and then repack it ....
19:22:17alienkidI'm gonna be away for a bit so PM me any other instructions and link when it's up.
19:23:19metaphysalienkid: to install it with someone uploading the file you just need to copy an firmware.sb + unpack a zip file in the root of your player
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19:33:36alienkidmetaphys: Oh. I've never done this before so
19:36:52metaphysit is just copying a few file, very easy
19:37:15alienkidyeah just like I normally update FW
19:37:23alienkidhold on switching clients
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19:41:55alienkid10so to charge and sync I need to boot to the OF right? By holding down vol down and pluging in?
19:42:36pamauryyes
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19:43:21alienkid10pamaury: to do the initial relfash MTP or MSC mode?
19:43:31alienkid10reflash*
19:43:43pamauryMSC
19:43:46pamauryI guess
19:43:48alienkid10OK.
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19:46:02alienkid10now to wait for it to update...
19:46:05metaphysok I find my way to produce a file (is it really of the same kind I don't anyway it still doesn't work and has 32 bits and 6 channel :D
19:46:40metaphysI will post a bug report in a minute
19:47:46alienkid10pamaury: my player just grayscreened then went white then dark
19:48:26saratogapost the first 30 seconds of the file
19:48:36saratogaand double check that the file plays somewhere before you upload it
19:49:37alienkid10pamaury: guess I have second display type?
19:50:02pamauryguess so, then you'd better reinstall the OF
19:50:11alienkid10will do
19:50:11pamaurybefore we find out why it doesn't work
19:51:11alienkid10so drop OF firmware.sb on it then unplug and hold down right?
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19:51:37pamauryyes
19:51:53alienkid10updating fuze+...
19:52:33metaphyssuspense! :D
19:52:48alienkid10pamaury: guess I'll wait then eh?
19:52:58alienkid10metaphys: heh
19:53:18alienkid10yay sansa boot logo!
19:53:22alienkid10loading...
19:53:29AlexP_mobCan someone change the topic? I don't feel like trying from a mobile phone.
19:53:29metaphysso for my bug it's codecs's section, right?
19:53:50bertrikAlexP_mob, change it into what?
19:54:00alienkid10succes
19:54:45metaphyssagarota: the first 30 second? you means like 50MB? :D
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19:55:15alienkid10pamaury: thanks for your hardwork on the port!
19:55:29metaphysI've post like 3 seconds, its 1,4 MB
19:55:34AlexP_mobBertrik: to announce the branch
19:55:39alienkid10hopefully you'll get the second screen figured out sometime!
19:56:13metaphysI've tested the sample no problem to read from totem, fail from device...
19:56:19alienkid10until then I'm one of the few who is OK with the OF.
19:56:37metaphyshere it is: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12371
19:57:05alienkid10Thanks again. I wish I could help but not really a coder and not too adventurous.
19:57:55pamauryalienkid10: no problem, thanks for testing, hopefully we'll solve the screen problem soon
19:58:26alienkid10pamaury: I'll be watching your thread and the port page until then.
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19:59:15bertrikjhMikeS, I'm pretty happy with the state of the latest RDS patch. Things I'd still like to do: 1) simplify the <tuner>_detect stuff so we don't have to have these awkward init-just-before-use mutexes 2) #ifdef things a bit to limit binsize increase for non-RDS targets
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20:16:02metaphyspamaury: I have a question regarding touchpad. Do rockbox support having different mapping of it depending on the menu active or is it mandatory a pain basis driver on the wich one rockbox works?
20:16:21metaphys*plain
20:18:10pamaurymetaphys: rockbox support having different key mapping depending on the menu, since the touchpad is currently faking keys, the answer is yes
20:18:47pamauryhowever I'm not sure of how far we can go by faking keys with it
20:19:56Buschelkugel, JdGordon: re your today's discussion. shall we bring the gui boost stuff to svn? if so, for wheel only?
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20:55:58saratogais logf defined in the Sim?
20:56:32saratogaor do i have to do something to enable seeing those logf prints
20:57:27pamaurysaratoga: you can use it in the seem but you need to enable it like on normal target
20:58:01saratogaenable it in configure, or do I need to define something in the files where i want to see it?
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21:04:06bluebrotherhas there been an updater for the H10 MTP around? I can't find working links at the iriver site anymore :(
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21:29:12jhMikeSbertrik: 1) my suggestion is to try tuner_init by changing it to return a code. if it fails, try the next kind and tuner_detect_type could go in the dustbin. 2) makes sense if there's no chance of RDS being present
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21:37:12rarogpamaury: I'm finally home, just re-compiled rockbox and am updating the firmware again.
21:38:50pamauryok, apparently even with the patch it doesn't work, so can you try to run the tool I posted after you confirm that ?
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21:39:56rarogyes, just noticed that. still grey screen. :D
21:43:52rarogso I just need to compile sbloader and push the recovery.db to my fuze+, right?
21:45:02pamauryyes
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21:48:25rarogjust running make in rockbox/utils/imxtools/ ?
21:48:45pamauryyes
21:51:07raroggood, i compiled it. do i have to connect to usb with original or rockbox firmware?
21:53:12pamauryconnect usb while hold Voulme Up to boot into recovery mode
21:53:18pamaurythen send the recovery.sb file using sbload
21:53:30pamaury*holding
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21:58:40rarogpaumary: http://pastebin.com/XHLGpfnm <- here is the output
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22:03:02pamauryok, it means you have the second kind of lcd but then I don't know why it doesn't work, I checked the init sequence against the OF yesterday (and found only one mismatch) :-/
22:04:25raroghm... :/
22:05:05pamauryone possibility is that they changed the sequence since then and the firmware I'm disassembling has it wrong but that seems unlikely
22:05:11rarogand the code correctly detects the second type of lcd and tries to send the init code?
22:05:47rarogcan you build some debug sequence to log the hardware feedback from commands into a file on fuze+?
22:07:14pamaurythere is no hardware feedback for the screen, at best I can make it write the lcd_kind to a file perhaps
22:07:47rarogTo see if the correct code is running?
22:08:06pamauryto see if the kind is correctly detected, we never know
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22:09:22pamauryhum, could you try something ? Modify code and recompile rockbox ? (you won't need to touch the bootloader)
22:09:25raroglet's try it, it's better then nothing.
22:09:28rarogsure.
22:10:00pamauryin firmware/target/arm/imx233/sansa-fuzeplus/lcd-fuzeplus.c, line 384
22:10:22pamaurychange LCD_KIND_7783 to LCD_KIND_9325 and change lcd_init_seq_7783 to lcd_init_seq_9325 the line just after
22:10:38pamauryit will make the code default to your lcd kind in case it's not detected properly
22:13:15rarogyes some seconds
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22:16:49rarogrecompiling now
22:23:10rarogok, done. now reconnecting to usb.
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22:28:43rarogNo, still grey display. :/
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22:29:13rarogSo detection is correct, but the init code somehow wrong
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22:32:08pamauryI'll try to disassemble the latest version
22:32:23rarogOk.
22:32:57rarogHow long do you think i will take? I think that I'll be online for at least 1,5h more now.
22:34:51rarogDo you remember, which firmware version you took for disasm? Perhaps it really was a version before the European versions were on market and they really changed the final code.
22:37:21pamauryI don't remember
22:37:35pamauryit should be fast but I won't do it now
22:38:28rarogOk, so I'll ask you tomorrow (local time) if you could find the changes
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23:01:43wodzFinally spotted part in disassm of rk27xx nand bootloader reponsible for filling missing ftl data. I looked at this function dozen of times but until now I didn't recognized what is the meaning. Now I can start the work on dualboot for this platform :-)
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23:09:38pamauryok finally i've looked at the latest version and I can't find any difference in the init sequence
23:09:46pamauryi'll have a look at the enable one
23:13:20pamauryso that leaves two possibility: there is still a mistake or the two lcd don't use the same hardware parameters
23:21:26rarogyeah... sad that there are no open documentations for these
23:22:31pamauryactually for that one I might have
23:23:17pamaurybut even then, the init sequence is too complicated, I don't understand much of the lcd parameters
23:23:45pamauryI will check if the bus width match however if I can make sense of it
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23:26:14raroghm... ok.
23:26:16rarogI'll test everything you need.
23:28:43wodzI guess the fastest route would be if you swap your f+ :-)
23:29:30rarogWell, don't think so.
23:29:53rarogI suspect that American and European f+ use the different displays.
23:30:07rarogSo in Europe I'd always have the 2nd type of display.
23:30:31wodzI mean exchange your f+ with pamaury
23:30:43rarogAh xD
23:31:18pamauryActually I don't know from where is mine, I bought it from second hand in France but I'm not sure the guy bought it in France
23:31:34pamauryAnd I first need to understand why it's not working
23:32:03pamauryhaving a non-working device will not help :)
23:33:49wodzit will for sure - you will have strong motivation
23:33:52wodz:-)
23:34:57pamaury:)
23:40:18rarogare the lcd enabling function and the one for backlight separate in the OF?
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23:41:42pamauryyes, they have nothing to do. Backlight obviously works otherwise you wouldn't be seeing a grey screen
23:42:03pamaurywhat si strange is that the lcd must be enable somehow, otherwise you would be seeing garbage :)
23:45:07raroghm... enabled and cleared...
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23:58:52rarogok, first result for search "lcd 9325" seems to give the documentation pdf, which paumary seems to have.

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