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#rockbox log for 2011-11-17

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00:01:26low_lightbrb
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00:19:46low_lightpamaury: no luck with 0xffff0000 or 0xc0000000. Reboots on the first read attempt.
00:21:22pamauryhum, I don't know what that mean, either there isn't a rom or it's not at a known address. Btw I've ask freescale if there can provide the datasheet for the stmp3700 and they do not quite agree for now except under nda but I'm still trying
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00:21:53low_lightpamaury: here's my working diff at this stage: http://pastebin.com/ipiPd8XM
00:23:10pamaurylow_light: just to check, try address 0 and length 1024
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00:26:48low_lightI had tried 1024 with no luck (and many other transfer lengths)
00:26:59pamauryand address 0 ?
00:27:22pamauryif you can't even read address 0 then it means there is problem
00:27:58low_lightGot something from 0
00:28:44pamauryat address 0, it should be code you sent to the device
00:28:56pamaurywait I know
00:29:11pamauryyou know arm assembly ?
00:29:57low_lightsome
00:30:48pamaurythe idea would be to call the code and us the LR register to get the calling address
00:31:00pamauryI guess it's simpler if I do, wait a second
00:31:58low_lightprobably ;)
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00:35:17pamauryok done, let me test it on mine
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00:44:28pamaurylow_light: http://www.mediafire.com/?927a0a8763tf75w
00:44:45pamauryload it as usual and read addres 0 (ignored) and length 1024
00:44:54pamauryit will send back 4 bytes
00:45:02pamaury(a 32-bit address)
00:47:24low_light9d 29 ff ff
00:48:36pamauryweird
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00:49:09low_lightindeed
00:49:19pamauryok, please try reading address 0xffff2900 then
00:51:20pamaurywait I think I know
00:51:30pamauryor might know
00:51:57low_lightbrb
00:52:09pamauryperhaps I shouldn't send back 1024 bytes over the interrupt endpoint, it might use a different packet size
00:56:39pamaurylow_light: if you want to try it, this file http://www.mediafire.com/?mtdbpbgjd67jbns only read/sends back 32 bytes at a time
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01:01:31low_lightback. I'll try.
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01:04:49low_lightpamaury: read from which address?
01:04:58pamaury0xffff2900
01:05:31pamaury32 bytes (with the new file) (you'll need to change memreader.c to only advance address 32-byte if you plan to read more than 32-bytes)
01:07:35wodzpamaury: it is also possible that rom code do bx instead of blx so return address isn't saved
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01:08:22low_lightkeeps rebooting with 0xffff2900
01:10:23pamaurythat's really strange, did you change the code than splits the address and store it into the setup packet ?
01:11:14low_lightI'll check, but I've got to go. I'll try more tomorrow.
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01:11:46lovasoain apps/plugins/sokoban.c, in the function sokoban_menu, i is an unused variable. If someone wants to correct this...
01:20:33wodzIs it possible to link with rb object file compiled with different compiler?
01:22:04wodzI mean technically (I am aware of possible licensing issues when linking foreign object file)
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01:37:54saratogawodz: yes its technically possible although i can't think of anyone having done it
01:38:28saratogawould probably be quite a lot of work if you wanted to get everything compiling though, particularly given all the hacks and asm we have
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01:55:35funmanwodz: also keep in mind possible ABI conflicts
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04:22:43soapanyone have hard evidence my Nano 1G, if returned, will come back as a Nano 1G?
04:23:16soapI've seen two people say now that a "new", not refurb, 1G will come back. I've seen no evidence of this from Apple.
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04:31:06JdGordonsoap: [saint] said appple were doing a new production run of 1g's to do the return
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04:40:35Tecanhmmmm
04:40:55Tecanrockbox wont work with my new 2011 ford xlt sync
04:41:26Tecan3.9.1
04:45:57saratogawhat device?
04:46:17Tecan2nd gen mini
04:46:20soapipod assumedly
04:47:02saratogaah so you're asking about the ipod accessory protocol
04:47:30saratogaa 2011 device probably uses the usb protocol which we don't support
04:47:55Tecanhmmm
04:48:12Tecanit can read thumb drives too
04:49:04saratogabut it probably won't mount an ipod as a thumb drive
04:49:16Tecanhttp://www.fourwalledcubicle.com/LUFA.php
04:50:07Tecantheres an option in the rockbox to turn off the hid
04:50:15Tecancant it be faked somehow ?
04:51:47Tecani'll just switch it back to ipod firmware and wait patiently ;)
04:52:05saratogaits up to the stereo to decide what to use
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04:52:24saratogayou could maybe change the usb ids so it doesn't know theres an ipod there, but i don't know if that would work
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04:54:00Tecanchange it in the rockbox config ?
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04:54:55Tecanaha i see why it wont work
04:55:11Tecanit cant read the files off the drive
04:55:44Tecanafter plugging into computer the songs that are uploaded are nowhere to be found
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05:22:26Tecanawe shit how do i put it back to apple firmware ?
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05:26:43Tecanwhats an ipsw ?
05:27:04Tecanand does it work with ipodpatcher
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06:02:34Tecanawe shit
06:02:40Tecani fucked my ipod
06:03:06Tecani uninstalled the firmware and bootloader, then tried to copy files to it
06:03:17Tecanit froze now its bricked
06:03:44Tecangoing to try and wait for the battery to die...
06:05:43soapTecan, "Menu" + "Select" held for ~30 seconds WILL force a reboot.
06:06:22Tecansweet
06:40:46Tecanoh i see, i need to get it to play with aux mode
06:41:12Tecanusb + aux, one for power the other to play... but when i plug it into the usb nothing works on the ipod
06:41:23Tecanjust shows the cable
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06:53:02thals1992hey can someone add me to the "WikiUsersGroup" I'm trying to update the page of the mpegpluginplayer to include more recent stats (mostly the ipod video)
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08:19:00Tecanhmm is there anyway to disable keypad mode ?
08:20:25Tecani want to use my ipod as if its only using the usb for power and the rest goes to headphones
08:20:46Tecanits stuck on usb screen
08:20:49Tecanbbl
08:21:03saratogacharge mode
08:21:10saratogahit any button while you plug it into usb
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08:23:36Tecanlol
08:23:39Tecansweet
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08:52:14wodzI crafted something like this to add BUTTON_REL event to hd300 scrollstrip driver. The very same approach can be used in scrollwheel drivers (and I think some ipods scrollwheel can be smarter as they can report being touched) http://pastebin.com/E4GE0D9y
08:52:34wodzthis removes the need for HAVE_SCROLLWHEEL hack in action.c
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08:55:28JdGordonwodz: if it removes the hacks in action.c then go for it!
08:56:21kugelwodz: HZ seems a bit high, but if it works then nice
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08:59:37wodzkugel: it is arbitrary choice - When you use scrollstrip and scrolling long list you have brakes in touching it to move your finger from top to the bottom. I didn't want to emmit REL then.
08:59:46wodzscrollwheel doesn't have this problem
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09:00:23kugelI see
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12:14:10wodzToday I found annoying behavior. When selecting m3u playlist some kind of editor/selector is opened (thats ok I recall discussion about that). The weird thing is that selecting first track in this editor/selector does not move me to WPS. Playback starts as expected though.
12:15:03wodzThat is definitely much more than 'one additional keypress' as the change was advertised
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12:35:36JdGordonwodz: yeah, thats a bug
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12:55:08wodzJdGordon: should I rise a bug on FS?
12:55:21JdGordonno, just fix it :)
12:55:38wodzJdGordon: are you kidding :-P
12:56:40JdGordonwell, it was worth a shot!
12:56:55pamaurywe don't want to mess with the UI !
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12:58:16JdGordonwimps!
12:58:35JdGordonGEDDIT?
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13:00:02wodzI am studying now how to add relevant bits to skyeye in order to run rockchip FTL code on this. Dissasm is horrible to read and I hope that with stepping through the code I'll understand what it does
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13:00:22SynrGnew clip+ owner, contemplating rockbox (so i can play oggs, among other things). just thought i'd lurk. hi :)
13:01:00CIA-22New commit by 03jdgordon (r31003): skin engine: Fix %if() when comparing against a number. ...
13:01:41wodzthe main problems in this approach are 1) lack of documentation for skyeye 2) lack of documentation for nand controller in rk27xx
13:02:00JdGordonis skyeeye better than qemu?
13:03:06wodzJdGordon: looking at both skyeye seems to have simpler architecture
13:03:45CIA-22r31003 build result: 2 errors, 0 warnings (jdgordon committed)
13:07:04pamaurywodz: do you really think it will help ? the dynamic behaviour will be even harder to study no ?
13:08:34pamauryis there a known emulator for the imx233 ?
13:09:00desowinZagor: can I be added to developers group on tracker? (FS #12363 should get closed)
13:09:01fs-bluebothttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12363 3Sandisk Sansa Connect port (patches, unconfirmed)
13:09:44wodzpamaury: Having some experience with BDM+GDB during HD200 port I would say study of dynamic behaviour complements dissasembly
13:10:09Zagordesowin: done
13:10:19pamaurywodz: yes for some things, but for a FTL...
13:10:51pamauryI would like to be able to study the dynamic behaviour of the fuze+ for example, that would help solve my lcd problems for example
13:11:40wodzpamaury: My main problem is that I don't understand remaping scheme used. Undarstanding this will allow to write read only driver which is good start
13:12:15kugelJdGordon: that should be backported to 3.10 shouldnt it?
13:12:27wodzand function that initializes remap tables is extraordinary complicated (mostly by compiler optimizations I guess)
13:12:42pamauryas for skyeye, I find the lack of documentation a real pity
13:13:04JdGordonkugel: if you want to. I'm not doing a svn checkout on my connection (and download quota) for it though
13:13:32kugelbtw, I think we should commit the few translation updates from the tracker and release finally
13:13:50kugelnot the german ones though, they're both not good
13:14:04wodzqemu has some documentation but sources are much harder to follow so I think I stick to skyeye. I don't want to implement whole system simulation - only some relevant bits.
13:14:28pamauryyes, I agree skyeye seems simpler
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13:20:11webguest1234bertrik(for the logs): Clipzip cabbiev2, can you test it and let me know if any changes need made ? http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12390
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13:25:07pamauryis skyeye still developped ?
13:27:03wodzpamaury: dunno
13:29:29pamauryseems like the last commit was in april, I'll have a look at qemu to see if it's really more complicated
13:32:25wodzgood luck
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15:09:35SynrGabsent from http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaFAQ is any mention of the Clip+. is that simply because the Clip+ is that good and there are no issues worth mentioning, or is it just a bit stale?
15:10:55SynrGhmm. think i answered my own question reading this: "See the list on www.rockbox.org. This FAQ applies only to models using PortalPlayer SOCs (currently e200 v1 and c200 v1)." so ... not really applicable.
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15:15:54wodzJdGordon: would you care to look at the issue introduced by r30177 I mentioned?
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16:53:58pixelmakugel: I made a German update too, hope I remember it when I get back home today... feel free to remind me
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19:23:40saratogai noticed the R0 port uses "arm-none-linux-gnueabi" as the compiler, i suppose because its the one provided with the samsung source code
19:23:49saratogahow is this different then our arm eabi compiler?
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19:26:19kugelsaratoga: we only have a "stage 1" compiler, without c library support
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19:26:40saratogaah yes, i suppose as an application it needs the c library stuff
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19:35:01metaphyspamaury: thanks the ams version is much closer from what I have to do!
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20:17:52pamaurykugel: did you notice the usb errors ?
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22:25:05pamaurywhy does the website skip r31016/7 ?
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22:26:27pamauryhum, French sentences are not supposed to have words starting with upper case in the middle of the sentence !
22:26:44kugelpamaury: website shows only commits to trunk
22:26:54kugelpamaury: feel free to fix french :)
22:27:09pamauryyeah, I'm thinking about it, I don't like that commit
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22:30:40CIA-22New commit by 03kugel (r31021): Croatian translation update ...
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22:35:57bertrikI think we should be a bit careful about committing language patches without checking the quality first
22:36:28*bertrik remembers people submitting google translations
22:36:58kugelbertrik: how to do that?
22:37:46kugelI think the croation one removed some translations which shouldnt have been removed
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22:38:32bertrikby letting a native speaker look at the patch first
22:39:07kugelwe don't have native speakers for most langs
22:39:33bertriklike the person who did the most contributions to a specific language already
22:40:27kugelhow do you know who that is?
22:40:41bertrikand at the very least verify that the submitter is actually a native speaker
22:40:42kugeland how to contact? and what to do if he doesnt answer?
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22:41:09kugelI went by the name, which seemed plausible
22:41:09bertriksvn log on the language file
22:41:35kugelthat tells me the real name, nothing more
22:42:18kugeland finding the top contributor to make him verify another translation seems like a lot effort for a small update
22:43:08bertrikhuh, svn log tells you who did what contribution (if committers did proper commit comments)
22:43:19kugeland the crotation one shows that even that is rather useless
22:43:35kugelAnte Maretic was the only contributor to croatic
22:44:02kugels/crotation/croatic/
22:44:11kugelffs, croatian*
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22:46:51bertrikwell, the french translation looks like an obvious counter-example
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22:47:52kugelit appears the theme site has problems with translations that contain " characters
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22:48:29kugelbertrik: I agree I should have been more careful with that one as we have french people here
22:48:55kugels/theme site/translation site/
22:48:58kugelrasher: ^ ?
22:49:13bertrikok, and I agree that the other ones you committed look OK :)
22:50:15kugelshould I fix croatian with or without the problematic " ?
22:53:00*kugel re-adds the " in the hope the site will be fixed, except for BUTTON names
22:53:21pixelmabtw. I believe we also have a semi-Russian committer - fml. At least he did some translations there and his real name sounds Russian (although he lives in Germany AFAIK and speaks German too)
22:57:52CIA-22New commit by 03kugel (r31023): Undo some of r31021. The translation site seems to have problems with double quotes in translations. ...
22:58:11CIA-22New commit by 03kugel (r31024): Undo some of r31021. The translation site seems to have problems with double quotes in translations. ...
22:59:31pixelmamaybe not only the translation site
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23:02:28pixelmawouldn't the first double quotes be interpreted as end-of-phrase by our language system?
23:02:39pixelmaor the second rather
23:02:58kugelI hope not :)
23:06:04kugelpixelma: may I remind you of the german update? :)
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23:07:00lovasoaHi
23:07:32lovasoaJust to say that r31009 broke things
23:07:58marazyou broke things?!
23:08:38lovasoaI'm building rockbox on a hosted target (YPR0, not yet inscluded in svn), and usb functions are defined twice
23:09:27lovasoain uisimulator/common/sim_tasks.c and in firmware/usb.c
23:11:49kugellovasoa: make a clean recompile. sim_tasks.c should be excluded from the build
23:12:16lovasoaI did a make clean && make. Isn't it enough?
23:12:46kugel_should be_, but sometimes problems only disappear after deleting the build dir entirely
23:13:08kugelunless you define SIMULATOR?
23:13:27lovasoaWhere may SIMULATOR be defined?
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23:13:49kugelin the generated Makefile
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23:15:15lovasoaIn the makefile, I have export APP_TYPE=sdl-app
23:15:17lovasoaexport APPLICATION=yes
23:15:19lovasoaexport SIMDIR=$(ROOTDIR)/uisimulator/sdl
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23:16:41kugellovasoa: in EXTRA_DEFINES?
23:17:35lovasoano
23:17:57kugelwell, sim_tasks.c is clearly inside #ifdef SIMULATOR :)
23:18:36lovasoaSo I'm going to wipe the build dir and create it again
23:19:04CIA-22New commit by 03kugel (r31025): stubs.c is only needed on SIMULATOR builds.
23:20:04low_lightpamaury: got the rom dump: http://www.mediafire.com/?xsyx9sjuze8zn86
23:20:16pamaurylow_light: what did you change ?
23:20:34pamaurynice anyway
23:20:55CIA-22r31025 build result: 2 errors, 0 warnings (kugel committed)
23:21:14low_lightpamaury: needed an strtoll instead of strol to read the addr from the command line
23:21:49pamauryah right
23:22:18pamauryI thought about it but didn't change it since it worked on my computer
23:22:32pamauryperhaps because of 64-bit, nice catch
23:25:28pamauryI'll try to analyze it to see how similar it is to the stmp3780 one
23:27:50pamaurylow_light: do you plan to port rockbox ?
23:28:13low_lightof course :)
23:28:33pamaurycool
23:28:34low_lightI've done several ports already
23:29:16pamauryYou might already know it but the best and only reference for the stmp3700 is the set of linux patches
23:29:47pamauryI'm not sure of how much can be reused in imx233/
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23:31:29low_lightI'll have a look. Being able to sign & run code is a good first step.
23:32:10pamauryyes, at least that part is the same
23:32:25pamauryI fear the most challenging part will be the memory size
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23:36:05pamauryDamn, I had fmradio_i2c working previously on the fuze+ and now it doesn't work !
23:36:33pixelmahrnpf, something went wrong with the character encoding of my translation update :\
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