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#rockbox log for 2011-11-25

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09:12:56kugelI'm considering to get an Samsung YP-R0 to help the RaaA/hybrid port for it. Would the fund help?
09:13:53kugelhowever, they don't seem to be available in my country (anymore) except on ebay
09:14:55Zagorkugel: sure, the fund can help
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09:26:40kugelgreat. I'll keep an eye on it and hope to get it cheaply
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12:46:34Zagorwe're coming up on rockbox' 10th birthday soon
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13:01:42kugelare we gonna have a party?
13:03:09Zagordon't we always? :-)
13:03:52kugelcount me in!
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13:20:10*gevaerts thinks he'll send a release-related email to the ML later today
13:20:43kugelgood
13:21:48gevaertsYou think? :)
13:21:59kugelwell, it's *something*, so yea :)
13:22:15kugeleven if it's just about how miserably we do this time
13:22:18kugel:p
13:22:45gevaertsI haven't thought everything through yet, but things like FS #12400 worry me a lot release-wise
13:22:46fs-bluebothttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12400 3Quickscreen freezes iAudio X5V on builds newer than rel 3.9.1 (bugs, unconfirmed)
13:23:10kugelthat's why I bumped the severity immediately (if anyone cares about it)
13:24:13gevaertsYes, I agree with that severity bump. I can reproduce the bug, but I have no idea where to start looking...
13:24:18kugelthough, this is a strange one, one would expect the obvious guess of NULL-pointer problems would show up in a sim
13:24:52kugeltime for some classic splashf() debugging perhpas?
13:25:06gevaertsEither that or bisecting
13:26:18kugelgevaerts: well, I thought it was clear that the removal of the down and down actions caused it
13:26:41kugeltop and down*
13:26:51gevaertsIs it?
13:26:59kugelas he says assigning actions to top and down prevents the problem
13:27:12gevaerts"Assigning functions to the top and bottom slots before using the quickscreen does not appear to prevent the problem"
13:27:26kugeloh uh, I missed that nto
13:27:27kugelbot
13:27:30kugelnot
13:27:49gevaertsThe only link to top and down actions I see is that they're the only user-visible change to the quickscreen, but that's not very interesting I think
13:28:20kugelwell, it did cause null pointer problems that were fixed later
13:28:33gevaertsWhen I tested yesterday, it *seemed* easier to reproduce the issue if the player was active with either playback or startup
13:33:40gevaertsWhat worries me is really that this is probably related to rather old (months) changes. This could be related to buflib (because buflib really can touch anything, not because I have a serious suspicion), or to just the quickscreen work, or (who knows?) theming work (there's a theme redraw after closing the quickscreen). If it's caused by some of the bigger reworks, I think we haven't stabilised for long enough yet to consider a release
13:37:32kugelI actually think this release might actually have less regressions than the previous ones
13:38:01kugelthis one should be fixed I agree, but it should look good otherwise
13:38:53kugelthe alternative is to skip 3.10. we already have numerious new and experimental stuff in trunk, and the release branch isn't going to be tested much more I think
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13:39:43gevaertsI'm leaning towards releasing (and properly advertising) a release candidate, but I'm not sure if that will get enough testing to make it worth it
13:40:08gevaertsThe quickscreen thing has to be fixed first though. I hope we can do that soon...
13:40:19kugelthat I propsed for the past 3 releases and nobody seemed to like that (or act upon)
13:40:24gevaertsThen either release 3.10 or 3.10RC I'd say
13:41:10gevaertsI think the problem is that we don't have RC support in rbutil (or at least it's not clear how to do it). Just putting it on the forums isn't really enough I think
13:41:21kugelI'm all for RC builds on either freeze or branch or both phases
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14:46:17pixelmadon't the Iaudios have the "catch mem accesses" in the debug menu?
14:46:31pixelmain case that could be helpful
14:55:50pixelmabtw. I thought a bit about the top and down items in the quickscreen and that the blanks there give no hint that one *could* assign something to them - together with the fact that I as someone who only uses the quickscreen by accident find myself trying to change an option back by trying to use the opposite direction's key - my idea was to put shuffle mode to left/right and repeat mode to up/down or something. I haven't tried myself yet though
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15:03:00Tornepixelma: that seems reasonable
15:03:28Tornealternatively we could just have it display (unassigned) or something
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15:10:24pixelmawell yes, that needs a new lang string though which may be a bit of a waste
15:29:08metaphysIs there any possibility to change the name of a task in flyspray or should i just open a new one?
15:30:05metaphysI opened it yesteday and its moving to some more general plans
15:32:07Zagormetaphys: "edit this task" lets you change all fields, including title
15:34:39metaphysthanks
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15:38:26metaphysI must be stupid I can't find such a fiel to click on!
15:39:16Zagorare you logged in?
15:40:13metaphysyes and I just saw that i have permission to edit my own task
15:46:27metaphysok i can create task i can change them but not if there not assign to me... and I cannot assign a task to me... even if i created it myself! :D
15:48:08Zagorah right, there's different permissions
15:49:12metaphyswell should i just open a new one then?
15:49:41Zagoryou're supposed to be able to edit your own task. can't you?
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15:51:04metaphysyes but i don't own it for it wasn't assign to me :D
15:52:12Zagorwhich task is it?
15:52:47Zagor"your task" means a task created by you. assigned-to just means who plans to do the work.
15:52:57metaphys12405
15:53:43metaphyswould like to rename it to something like "improve touchpad implementation for the fuzeplus's port"
15:54:05Zagordo you see a button "edit this task"?
15:54:56metaphysno where should it be ?
15:55:28Zagorbelow "this task depends upon"
15:56:17metaphysno I don't have anything under that field
15:57:15metaphysonly the comment section then
15:57:43Zagorstrange. ok, I'll change it for you.
15:57:51metaphysthx
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17:15:18CIA-22New commit by 03fredwbauer (r31050): fix up font_cache/LRU boundry errors from r30763
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17:17:31CIA-22r31050 build result: 2 errors, 0 warnings (fredwbauer committed)
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17:30:13freddybbCould I ask someone to commit r31058 in the release branch?
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17:34:10kugeluhm, he can try :)
17:34:29kugelfreddybb (logs): the revision doesnt exist
17:34:42kugelI suspect he means the latest
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18:14:43alienkid10on the Fuze+ how do I engage and disengage the lock? Also how can I connect it without it going into "multimedia" mode?
18:15:58freddybbKugel: Upon enlarging the font size I can confirm your suspicions. (r31050)
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18:22:02CIA-22New commit by 03kugel (r31051): fix up font_cache/LRU boundry errors from r30763
18:24:15alienkid10anyone?
18:24:25alienkid10not implemented yet?
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18:26:24kugelalienkid10: our fuze+ expert isnt here atm
18:26:35alienkid10ah
18:26:48alienkid10I can see that
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18:27:00alienkid10I thought someone else would know too
18:27:23freddybbThanks, Kugel
18:27:29alienkid10I need to leave in a bit so was wondering but it's no biggy
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18:43:16*gevaerts wants to know what to do to stop people thinking that "multimedia mode" means MSC
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19:28:40metaphyscould someone have a look at this patch and tell me if it is allright? http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12405 If it is it would be nice if someone could commit it as a lot of ours tester on the fuze+ cannot compile...
19:48:11kugelmetaphys: I'm sure pamaury will do if/once it's fine
19:48:26metaphysok
19:49:11metaphyshe is not here but there is no hurry...
19:50:24kugelthere's not indeed
19:51:04metaphysnot what?
19:51:22metaphysah ok
19:51:29metaphys:)
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20:12:09CIA-22New commit by 03kugel (r31052): Cabbiev2/RaaA: Improved popup icons for the WPS, featurung real shadows.
20:14:10CIA-22r31052 build result: 2 errors, 0 warnings (kugel committed)
20:15:44kugelgrr
20:15:55kugelnobody (except me) is really using RaaA right?
20:16:13kugelr30298 forgot 480x800
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20:18:24evilnickkugel: I am using the RaaA, on a daily basis
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20:20:15kugelevilnick: so we're two :)
20:20:20kugel480x800?
20:20:28*evilnick nods
20:21:23kugelhow come you didn't complain that you can't pause or seek?
20:21:39*kugel has a suspicion
20:21:53CIA-22New commit by 03kugel (r31053): Cabbiev2/RaaA: r30298 forgot about 480x800. Fix pause, ffwd and rewind touch actions in the WPS.
20:22:01gevaertsHe probably doesn't *update* on a daily basis
20:22:34kugelgevaerts: the bug was 4 month old ;)
20:22:57kugelevilnick: I guess you're using Saint's or another theme?
20:23:45CIA-22r31053 build result: 2 errors, 0 warnings (kugel committed)
20:24:00bertrikif I unzip a fresh rockbox zip with a new sansa clip zip cabbiev2 wps, the wps appears to be loaded normally, but the font is still wrong, if I reload the cabbiev2 manually, it starts using the intended font
20:25:06bertrikI wonder if this is just another rockbox bug, or me doing something wrong
20:25:49kugelbertrik: that means settings_list.c and cabbiev2.cfg disagree on the default
20:26:01kugelan empty config doesn't actually load cabbiev2
20:26:40bertrikbut settings_list uses a global default that appears way too large for the clip zip screen
20:27:05kugelthen change it
20:27:36evilnickkugel: Yep, I've been using Saint's theme exclusively on raaAAAaaaA
20:28:08dfkti'm using RawR! daily as well
20:28:49bertrikkugel, an empty config shows me something like cabbiev2, but just with the incorrect font
20:29:43kugelbertrik: settings_list.c needs to select the same font as wps/WPSLIST
20:30:00kugelcabbiev2.cfg has the right font, but cabbiev2.cfg isnt loaded by rockbox
20:32:45bertriksorry, can't make sense of it. I can change settings_list of course, but I still have no idea how this thing works
20:34:18bertrikperhaps I'm confusing themes and WPSs
20:34:59kugelbertrik: the theme.cfg is generated from wps/WPSLIST
20:35:20kugelso it generates cabbiev2.cfg with various settings in it (including the correct font)
20:35:36kugelif you boot without a config.cfg the default settings are applied, NOT cabbiev2.cfg
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20:37:16kugelthe default settings come from settings_list.c
20:38:51kugelanyone keen on converting all the volume icons in the cabbie themes to use the bar tag?
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20:39:32kugelhm, I wonder if the bar tag handles the >0dB case properly
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20:41:54bertrikkugel, thanks for the explanation
20:42:29CIA-22New commit by 03buschel (r31054): Solve FS #12396 through rolling back r26592. This fixes distortions while mpc playback on Coldfire targets with GCC 4.5.2.
20:42:35kugelbertrik: simple rule: WPSLIST and settings_list.c must select the same font for a specific screen size
20:43:07bertrikI'm afraid that if I change the default font for a range of lcd heights, I'll break one of the other targets
20:44:04kugelbertrik: you find 12-adobe too large? doesnt the c200 use it as well?
20:44:19CIA-22r31054 build result: 2 errors, 0 warnings (buschel committed)
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20:45:46bertrikI'll have a look
20:48:48bertrikit looks quite a bit too big to me
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20:49:49CIA-22New commit by 03buschel (r31055): Integrate r31051 to v3.10. Fixes mpc distortions on Coldfire when using GCC 4.5.2
20:53:35Buschelarrgh, should have referenced r31054... well, at least the fix is correct
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21:03:17tjb0607oh fuck not again
21:03:22tjb0607at the worst time
21:03:53tjb0607I unmounted my e200 improperly and now it's restricting the permissions of the storage
21:03:57tjb0607again
21:04:03tjb0607*facepalm*
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21:12:17tjb0607I'll try and see what the original firmware can do
21:15:28gevaertstjb0607: if your problem is that linux mounts corrupted FAT filesystems read only, the OF isn't going to make it behave differently...
21:15:48tjb0607ok
21:16:15tjb0607should I back everything up and wipe everything?
21:16:34tjb0607I have that developer mode script you gave me
21:17:01gevaertsJust try fsck first
21:17:14tjb0607ok
21:17:30gevaertsIf you decide to format, format it from the OF system menu
21:17:53gevaertsOr not. I don't think it actually matters
21:19:15tjb0607ok
21:22:09tjb0607fsck.ext2: No medium found while trying to open /dev/sdb : The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2 filesystem. If the device is valid and it really contains an ext2 filesystem (and not swap or ufs or something else), then the superblock is corrupt, and you might try running e2fsck with an alternate superblock: e2fsck -b 8193 <device>
21:22:38gevaertsThat's because the filesystem isn't on /dev/sdb
21:22:47tjb0607ok
21:22:53gevaertsAnd because it's not ext* of course
21:23:43tjb0607is there a fast way to see where kde mounts it from?
21:25:09funmantype 'mount'
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21:29:38tjb0607http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=iUk9qDZD 1 right?
21:29:54tjb0607don't want to screw this up as hard as last time :p
21:30:15funmanno idea, i think i use -w -a (-w = write modifications, -a = decide automatically) iirc
21:31:26tjb0607http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=4jQKn8Q1
21:31:48gevaertsreformat the thing
21:31:52tjb0607ok
21:32:00tjb0607I'll just make a backup real quick
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21:33:28tjb0607it'll take a good 18 minutes
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21:51:31tjb0607ok that's done
21:51:58tjb0607should I use pyparted or something to reformat it now?
21:54:12gevaertsI'd use mkfs.vfat, but it shouldn't matter. Just make sure that whatever tool you use doesn't touch the partition table or the firmware partition
21:55:02tjb0607Gparted is only seeing my HHD
21:55:48tjb0607..because I think it's plugged in wrong
21:57:42tjb0607there we go
21:58:09tjb0607so I DON'T touch the unknow file system 20.00 MiB partition EVER right
21:58:41gevaertsbasically
21:58:47tjb0607and format the fat32 SD PLAYER 3.73 GiB
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22:00:00tjb0607ok I formatted that
22:01:21tjb0607and I'm formatting my MicroSD card as well because it's been not mounting properly
22:03:18tjb0607ok that's done, loading OF to plug in and install rockbox
22:06:14pixelmathe c200 uses 11-Sazanami mincho per default. I even think the 10 one would do
22:15:28kugelpixelma: pretty sure it doesnt
22:15:59kugelsorry
22:16:13*kugel is wrong again
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22:32:42user890104what is holding rockbox 3.10 back?
22:34:21gevaertsA few bugs and lack of coordination. Our usual release manager hasn't been online a lot recently
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23:15:01telliottI just got a Clip Zip
23:15:49telliottDo they STILL not allow podcasts in playlists in the OF?
23:16:36funmantelliott: the OF is offtopic here, use #rockbox-community (see topic)
23:17:47telliottIt was just a comment. I'm foing directly to Rockbox since the OF is unuseable for me
23:17:52telliottgoing
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