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#rockbox log for 2011-12-02

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00:27:44JdGordongevaerts: having the build farm build every gerrit patch automagically would be great, not having the possibility of "fix red/yellow" commits would be freeking marvelous
00:28:33gevaertsI think it will need some manual intervention. Having it build *everything* may annoy the people who generously donate spare cycles
00:29:02gevaertsBut yes, having the option would be good
00:29:11JdGordonwell not everything, but yeah
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01:12:57dreamlayersI made a gcc-4.6.2 -flto Archos Recorder V2 build that works. Binary size decrease 7584, RAM usage decrease 7304.
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01:19:44dreamlayersDoes anyone see problems when starting a USB connection?
01:20:56dreamlayersWhen I connect my Recorder V2, the USB screen is slow to come up, and disk access from the computer is unreliable for at first.
01:22:18dreamlayersWith my 5G iPod, I Windows sometimes doesn't connect in high speed mode. It seems to only happen if the disk is spinning when I plug in the cable, but even then, it doesn't always happen.
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01:33:30orzohello
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01:34:09orzomy gf wants a rockbox mp3 player. What's the best rockbox device?
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01:35:04orzoi use rockbox on a sansa e800 but I want something newer and better
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01:36:57funmanorzo: check BuyersGuide on the wiki
01:37:55orzothanks
01:39:11orzohm, buyersguide lists only sansa fuse v2 and clip+ as "In Production" ... That doesn't sound right. What's "In Production" mean?
01:40:38funmanbeing produced by manufacturers
01:41:07orzosandisk is actually selling rockbox pre installed?
01:41:14funmannot at all
01:41:57funmanthey are producing the fuzev2 and clip+, or at least selling brand new ones in shops. installing rockbox is still your job
01:41:59orzooh you mean the only rockbox devices currently being manufactured are fuse v2 and clip+ ?
01:42:03funmanthat's it
01:42:16funmanfor other models you'll have to go through second hand
01:43:24orzoHM
01:43:28orzowell this is an xmas gift
01:43:41orzoi think shed prefer a shiny new item
01:43:53orzoall other things equal
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01:46:04funmandoesnt't mean you can't find them but usually in shops you have moer chance to have shiny new models
01:46:31funmanperhaps second-hand-never-unpacked-last-year-xmas-gifts :)
01:48:30saratogathe clip zip is also still being made
01:48:51saratogathey just launched it this fall
01:52:47dreamlayersIs that table only for stable targets? Clip Zip isn't even in http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/TargetStatus
01:53:21funmandreamlayers: yeah, title says that
01:53:30funman"Current status of stable targets"
01:54:04dreamlayersOn TargetStatus, if you scroll down, you'll see "New Platforms Currently Under Development "
01:55:33funmanclip zip is in between the two :)
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01:56:06dreamlayersBuyersGuide doesn't say it's just listing stable targets, but it seems to be limited to those, and that makes sense for a buyer's guide.
01:57:00orzodepends on why you're buying
01:57:17orzoif you are gungho to contribute to the project...
01:58:17orzohm, are rockbox devs mostly volunteers or is there a lot of paid developers?
01:58:39funmanexactly 0 paid developers ever, afaik
01:58:56orzoawsome
01:58:59orzoheheh
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02:02:19orzoi was here once and mentioned i needed a bookmark feature for audiobooks
02:02:41orzothe next release came out a few days later and it had that feature
02:02:44orzoheh
02:19:07dreamlayersMy Archos Recorder V2 has some ICRC errors in the SMART log from today. I think that means ATA Ultra DMA CRC.
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02:39:16dreamlayersAre download stats for releases or current builds available anywhere?
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02:53:36saratogadreamlayers: not directly, but the swedes can tell you the stats if you ask
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02:59:06CIA-10New commit by 03dreamlayers (r31107): Fix FS #11675 : LED resistor calculator does not wait for keypress. Thanks to Michael Chicoine for reporting the bug.
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03:01:23CIA-10r31107 build result: 2 errors, 0 warnings (dreamlayers committed)
03:01:26dreamlayerssaratoga: Can I just ask info at haxx.se?
03:01:42saratogano idea
03:02:40dreamlayerssvn finished very quickly this time. (no hanging)
03:03:21funmandreamlayers: there is a videolan download mirror also i guess, you'll have to ask those on #videolan
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03:09:00dreamlayersThere's also a mirror of the videolan mirror at http://ftp.thquast.de/mirror/ftp.videolan.net/pub/rockbox/
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03:13:06funmandreamlayers: you'll have to ask tomorrow at least because the videolan admin is pissed at me
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03:13:50dreamlayersfunman: ok, I'm not in a rush, and it's not very important
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03:18:51dreamlayersWhat does "usb 2-3: device not accepting address 13, error -71" mean? It gets the next address after that.
03:20:13funmanbad things ©
03:22:07dreamlayersThat might happen only happen if the hard drive on my 5G iPod is spun up. I haven't done enough testing to be sure though. It doesn't cause problems in Linux, but I wonder if it's related to why I don't get a high speed connection sometimes in Windows.
03:25:44dreamlayersI mean is already spinning and ready at USB connect = that error, not spinning = no error
03:27:37dreamlayersI have to go now; I'll get back to this later. I guess the meaning of -71 can be found in Linux source.
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03:30:25funmandreamlayers: https://www.videolan.org/~videolan/rockbox/
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04:47:12Lenny35543hi
04:47:56Lenny35543can anyone help me to get timestretching working on my sansa v2 fuze?
04:48:07Lenny35543I can't figure out how to get it to work after enabling it
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07:54:39audio-ianybody here with theme site info editing powers?
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07:57:50audio-i@kugel: when you erased my rayboradio theme 320x240, you erased the theme's total count, should be around 17000, please restore it, thanks
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08:09:46kugelhow do people like this sbs? http://imagebin.org/186591
08:13:14pixelmaat least the circle around play somehow doesn't suit the theme in my eyes
08:13:26pixelmahaven't looked very closely though
08:15:07Zagorkugel: why both a play and pause button?
08:16:08kugelpixelma: it|s for going to the wps. the wps has a similar icon (with four bars in the circle) to go back to the menu
08:17:15kugelthe button in the middle toggles play/pause/stop. the one on the right goes to the wps (resuming playback if necessary)
08:17:42Zagorwhy have a button that does the same thing as the menu item?
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08:17:58kugelto have it in other places than the main menu
08:18:06Zagormy preference is to only have << || >> in the play controls
08:18:29audio-ikugel: I'm having trouble updating the theme you hid the other day
08:18:33kugelcould replace it by albumart if available
08:19:04kugelaudio-i: I can't bump the download count. I don't even know why it went back to 0 in the first place
08:19:47audio-icould you erase the current theme? I'll try with my other email
08:21:49JdGordonkugel: good question, i couldnt understand how either!
08:21:53kugelI see the original one with 8k download count I think
08:22:31audio-ithat's not right either, it should be around 17k
08:22:32kugelbut I dont see the new one :\
08:22:51audio-iI just uploaded it
08:23:22kugelin the admin panel I mean
08:23:25kugelthere's only one
08:23:35kugelthe admin panel is buggy
08:24:08audio-ican you see the email address associated to the theme?
08:24:11kugelI cant delete it (only the one with 8k downloads), just try to update again
08:24:20kugelno. that's another bug
08:24:34kugeloh wait, I see it now
08:24:50kugelit's a at_gmail.com
08:25:01audio-ithat's the right one
08:25:18audio-iby mistake I uploaded the new one with another email
08:25:48kugelthat's unfortunate. can you just try updating again?
08:26:14audio-inow it won't let me, not with the original email address
08:26:42audio-iit's treating the theme I just uploaded as a new one
08:27:17audio-ithat's why I thought if you could delete the current one, I could update the original one
08:27:33kugelheh
08:27:37kugelI see the new one now
08:27:48kugelit's listed in the ipodvideo themes, but not in "All themes"
08:28:03audio-ibuggy
08:28:56saratogahttp://www.rockbox.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes310
08:28:59saratogafeel free to add things!
08:29:07kugelaudio-i: try now
08:29:23audio-iok
08:29:50audio-ithe new one is still there though
08:31:51audio-inope, it doesn't let me do the update with the original email
08:32:16audio-ibecause the current one is still there I guess
08:32:32kugelI hit delete, and I cant see it in the admin area
08:33:11audio-ishould it be immediate, or could it take some time?
08:33:38kugelI think immediate
08:33:53kugelI restored the original one, and the false updated one is gone too
08:33:53audio-iok, it's gone from "all themes" but not from iPod video
08:34:16kugeltry updating again
08:34:55audio-ithe one restored is REALLY old
08:35:13kugelthere is no other one
08:36:06audio-iI don't know what happened, but it should be 17k downloads, sec on most downloaded theme
08:36:36kugelI'm sorry, I don't know what went wrong
08:36:52audio-icould it be that you restored a version from the "old theme site"? the one before the mayor skin code update
08:37:18kugelthere is no other version
08:37:42kugelno, I never clicked that link to the old one
08:38:38audio-iis there someone that can help me with this? I don't think it's fair to also lose the download count
08:39:05audio-iI don't remember who designed the theme site...
08:39:49kugelI'm unable to modify the download count
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08:40:56audio-iI don't know what happened, but if you go to the old theme site, the download count was 10k, and that was along time ago
08:41:15audio-iit's very frustrating
08:41:23kugelyes, I understand that
08:42:12audio-iI know your intentions were good, but the theme shouldn't have been deleted in the first place
08:42:29kugelit wasnt deleted
08:42:31kugelit was hidden
08:42:45kugelthe difference is that the old state should be able to be restored
08:42:52kugelI didn't know of the bugs the admin panel has
08:44:06audio-iyou think the person who wrote the theme site could restore the download count?
08:44:25audio-iwould that be possible, I mean?
08:45:25audio-ior manually put the value?
08:50:09kugelaudio-i: did you update again? please do so
08:50:44kugelI think only people who have access to the bare database can change it, the author of the theme site is irrelevant
08:52:11kugelthat might be scorche ?
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08:57:58audio-i@kugel: it's behaving really strange, I updated and got me back to 1 download count
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09:00:19audio-iI don't know what I'm doing anymore, now there's one theme with my name instead of the theme name
09:00:31audio-ian additional one
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09:14:27kugelthis is really strange
09:15:09kugelaudio-i: the hotmail one is back
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09:17:48kugelthis confuses me
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09:24:01audio-ikugel: do you think we should try hiding all current ones and re uploading again?
09:24:33kugelthis is what I have done, but the the site doesnt reflect it
09:25:00audio-iat least the one with my name is gone
09:25:38audio-inow there's only one, but I'm unsure with email does it correspond to
09:25:53audio-iwich email, I mean
09:26:02audio-iarr... which
09:26:41kugelFS #12423 :'(
09:26:41fs-bluebothttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12423 3Rockbox access to /.rockbox/fonts after usb_enable(true) (bugs, new)
09:28:39kugelaudio-i: I cant tell. I cant see the theme displayed on the theme site in the admin panel
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09:36:40audio-ikugel: it seem's the current one is gmail... meaning the theme is the right one, which is of course good at least
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11:57:06dfktZagor, did you get the ping yesterday? i made the missing images for the manual/themes/build site - http://pastie.org/pastes/2943564/text
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12:37:14dfktkugel, yes i created them, from sandisk's free press photos. i'm afraid i'm not a vector guy, can't help with svg
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13:13:10Zagordfkt: those are weird filenames... what are the names of those models?
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13:22:27dfktZagor, i added the names - http://pastie.org/2954627
13:22:38Zagorthanks
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13:56:27CIA-10New commit by 03zagor (r31108): Added player images.
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14:04:03Zagorthe theme site is a separate system, managed by scorche
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14:58:24*bertrik saw some weird things (like corrupted icons) when trying out usb on the sansa clip zip
14:58:39bertrikthis makes me think it's not just the AMSv2 usb driver that is flaky
14:59:08bertrikAlso I'm getting data aborts when loading themes
14:59:34dfktthe same corruption as seen in earlier builds with my theme?
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15:03:04bertrikI don't know exactly
15:03:27bertrikI get data aborts very frequently when changing from/to lebellium's theme
15:04:40bertrikdoes buflib have any kind of debug or assertion support (like magic markers around memory areas that are checked for corruption)?
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15:10:28bertrikand allow the "backlight" to be varied to check for color shifts on OLED displays
15:11:16bertrikperhaps an lcd update rect test too
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15:15:47dfktbertrik, if i remember correctly, someone already put a patch for implementing various colors in the flashlight plugin on the tracker - i think it was saint
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16:13:26lxs-makotoive got an interesting one here, rockbox utility on arch linux, all the text in the utility is coming up as squares. any ideas?
16:15:32gevaertslxs-makoto: we've had a report about this (well, on gentoo IIRC) a few days ago. If you happen to be on a 64 bit system, could you try the test build on http://www.alice-dsl.net/dominik.riebeling/rockbox/rbutil/RockboxUtility-r31106-64bit.tar.bz2 ?
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16:16:18lxs-makotoi am indeed on 64, i'll five that build a go
16:17:24lxs-makoto*give
16:17:53lxs-makotothere we go, i can see text now!
16:18:17gevaertsGreat!
16:18:35gevaertsbluebrother: can we have a new (or updated) release soon?
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16:22:52mc2739should r31107 be committed to the v3.10 branch?
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16:26:25gevaertsmc2739: is that the resistor one?
16:26:31mc2739yes
16:30:31gevaertsI think it should go in 3.10, yes
16:31:59lxs-makotough, cant get this fuze to mount. looks like its my dodgy usb controller chip though.
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16:34:51CIA-10New commit by 03mc2739 (r31109): Backport r31107 - Fix FS #11675 : LED resistor calculator does not wait for keypress.
16:38:06ilfi'm about to buy a sansa clip+ and use rockbox for the first time
16:38:33ilfcan i put music files anywhere on the drive via mass storage device in the original firmware? (i know rockbox can)
16:39:17ilfalso: will resume track work even if new files are on the drive?
16:40:27mc2739ilf: yes, but only with the OF. Rockbox does not yet have working USB for the clip+
16:40:50evilnickYes to the second question too
16:41:18ilfmc2739: damn. so how do i put files on there for rockbox?
16:41:28evilnickWith the OF
16:41:48mc2739there is dual boot - boot into the OF to transfer files
16:41:48evilnickReboot into the OF, add files, reboot into rockbox to play those files
16:44:26ilfare you sure you're talking about the clip+, not clip zip?
16:44:51ilfhomepage sais "clip+" is stable port, clip zip does have usb bugs
16:45:05evilnickStable != working USB mode
16:45:12ilfah damn
16:45:37ilfis there a cheap device in stores now with usb mode?
16:46:10mc2739ilf: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/Main/SansaAMS#AMSv2_issues_40Fuzev2_44_Clipv2_44_Clip_43_41:
16:46:10evilnickAlthough it shouldn't be a dealbreaker since all you need to do is reboot it into the OF, which doesn't take long and doesn't need to be done all that often after the initial 'putting all your music onto it' phase :)
16:47:08ilfevilnick: i add podcasts daily
16:47:54evilnickRight... and it takes all of a minute or two to reboot.
16:48:34gevaertsilf: if you plug the thing in while switched off, it will boot to the OF, so all you really have to do is shutdown after disconnecting
16:48:55ilfok, that's good
16:49:13ilfcurrently use an ipod shuffle and need to start windows in a virtualbox for fucking itunes
16:49:53ilfif gnupod was stil actively maintained, i wouldn't be here :)
16:50:27gevaertsYou may need to tell the OF to use mass storage after installing rockbox, but that's only once
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16:52:02ilfis development for clip+ alive?
16:54:57evilnickkugelp: I tried svn Cabbiev2 on the RAaaaaaaaaaaaaa port, but quickly switched to Saint's version just 'cause it's that much better!
16:56:11kugelpwhat does it do better? I can't really use it because the version for my resolution is buggy
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16:56:52kugelpanyway, did you notice the volume pop-up? I took that idea from saint's
16:58:00evilnickProbably because I'm more used to it, but: I prefer the layout of the navigation buttons, and the fact that the volume popup uses a numerical display as well as the graphical one, the font is nicer
16:59:00kugelpHmm I didn't notice numeric display
16:59:43kugelpsvn and saint's aren't _that_ different, only the sbs basically
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17:00:59evilnickThere are quite a lot of nice fixes/touches in Saint's that aren't in svn, so I do much prefer Saint's version
17:01:09kugelpright, the font. but you can use that with the svn cabbie as well (like I do)
17:01:43evilnickSvn shows the next track by folder, not by tags - which is kinda annoying
17:02:17kugelpevilnick: collecting them and applying then to svn (or finishing saint's) would be nice
17:02:33kugelpevilnick: no it doesn't do that
17:04:24evilnickDoes it cycle through displaying the tags then the folder structure? Because I used rasher's build from today and saw that the svn version of CabbieV2 said the folder name one level up from where the music file was stored was shown as the album for the next track
17:04:37evilnickBut the music file WAS tagged (FLAC, vorbis comments)
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17:05:30kugelpI believe it falls back to folder for improper. if the tags are good it always shows them
17:05:42kugelpimproper tags*
17:06:10*evilnick could try again
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17:31:34dfktscorche, would you mind to add the missing player icons to the themes site? - http://pastie.org/2954627
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17:33:05wodzcan someone commit r31083 to the 3.10?
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17:38:25lxs-makot0whoa, ive just crashed
17:38:35lxs-makot0whats a prefetch abort?
17:39:10wodzwow, are YOU piplined?
17:40:14wodz*pipelined
17:40:15lxs-makot0screen says "Prefetch abort" "at FFFF7FFE" "FSR 0xFF" "(domain 15, fault 15)"
17:40:39lxs-makot0Sansa v1, just checking version should be current release
17:40:41dreamlayersA prefetch abort is an attempt to access code at an invalid address. (Not all invalid addresses result in a prefetch abort.)
17:40:53lxs-makot0v3.9.
17:41:02lxs-makot0*v3.9.1
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18:18:12dreamlayersIs there any way to get a backtrace on sh targets?
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18:21:22dreamlayersI'm also wondering if opendir_cached("/.rockbox") after usb_core_enable_driver(USB_DRIVER_MASS_STORAGE, true); could mean there is another "filesystem access at start of USB mode" bug, like FS #12423
18:21:23fs-bluebothttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12423 3Rockbox access to /.rockbox/fonts after usb_enable(true) (bugs, new)
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18:22:22kugeldreamlayers: there's some gdb stub, perhaps that still works
18:23:01dreamlayerskugel: that would involve opening up my V2 recorder to access the serial pins, right?
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18:23:34*funman received his clip zip
18:24:02kugeldreamlayers: I don't know :)
18:34:29bluebrothergevaerts: sure. I was planning to do that during the weekend the moment the fix for the issue was confirmed :)
18:34:56bluebrotherand there's no need for a new release, we can now easily make "build" versions
18:35:05bluebrotherat least as long as we're using svn ...
18:35:25*bluebrother needs to figure how to do the svn export thing using git
18:38:58bertrikfunman, that was quick! :D
18:39:23bertrikfunman, do you know what fm chip and what display you have in your zip?
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18:40:08funmanit could have been longer, the package was sitting outside in front of my door o:
18:40:31funmanAMSv2 variant 1
18:40:42funmanSI4700
18:40:53bertrikI guess probably all of them are variant 1
18:42:17bertrikThey explicitly mention si4700 in the diagnosis screen, so I guess they could possibly ship with a different fm chip too (perhaps one without RDS?). Sandisk doesn't seem to actively advertise the RDS feature.
18:42:47bertrikHave you run the OF at all yet? :D
18:44:10funmanto install the bootloader, yes
18:44:51funmanthe lcd type is not written in debug screen, is it?
18:45:12bertrikno
18:45:22bertrikwould be a good thing though
18:48:00funmanbertrik: can i tellyou the lcd type without recompiling? is there something visible about those different screens?
18:48:21funmanexcept the theme being ugly i mean
18:48:30bertrikno, you can't really tell from within rockbox
18:48:41bertrikyou can see it in the OF diagnosis screen
18:49:12bertrikI always use a 't' version to flash the clip/clip+/clipzip
18:49:23funmanah, no diagnosis for me then
18:51:32gevaertsbluebrother: sounds good
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18:58:20kugelpbluebrother: "rm -rf .git/" ?
18:58:54kugelpsvn export only exists because each and every dir has .svn in it
18:59:49gevaertsWell, either that or just telling tar or whatever to ignore .git
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19:02:11funmanyou can use git clone −−depth=1 if you want faster and smaller clone
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19:11:37lorenzo92kugel: okay, if you update the modded firmware you won't need anything "special" because it's quite impossible I think to brick the device with it ;)
19:11:44funmanbertrik: wisechip
19:12:54kugeldamn mtp
19:13:02bertrikOh cool, that one could use some debugging love. Somehow the horizontal position is not handled quite right in lcd_update_rect, so there's a workaround now to always write full rows. Perhaps you can figure out what is wrong and remove the workaround.
19:13:31lorenzo92yeah mtp is damn, just use the safe mode to bypass everythinh
19:13:47lorenzo92keep pressed the Back key at startup with usb cable inserted ;)
19:14:50lorenzo92by the way, an important thing. R0 default application doesn't turn device off completely. So you need to reset it before "reloading" the kernel etc
19:16:39kugel\o/
19:17:07lorenzo92well it does after 8 hours of "sleep" mode
19:17:19lorenzo92more or less...
19:17:32kugeldidnt need to reset
19:17:43kugelI guess it powers off completely after usb
19:17:48lorenzo92ah yes indeed
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19:17:53lorenzo92after usb yes
19:18:20bertrikfunman, also I wondered if the balance of R,G,B is right for the wisechip display. I've had to enable BGR mode (instead of RGB) to get the colours right for use with RGB565 bitmaps.
19:18:52kugellorenzo92: okay. what do I need to update?
19:19:03lebelliumcolors are not good for the wisechip display for sure \o/
19:19:45dfktthey are no good for the visionox either... no matter if OF or rockbox :p
19:19:50lorenzo92kugel: what do you mean? which firmware did you flash?
19:20:02kugellorenzo92: the one in your zip :)
19:20:05kugelI mean update rockbox
19:20:37lorenzo92ah! just copy it in the root as folder "rockbox" (no mnt/media0 ecc)
19:20:43lebelliumdfkt: lol but maybe at least with your display green looks green in RB?
19:20:49lorenzo92and copy to root the starter script
19:21:09lorenzo92press center key at startup et voilà :)
19:21:54bertriklebellium, what does green look like then?
19:22:35bertriktoo much cyan'y or too yellow'y?
19:22:39lebelliumbertrik: I already told you several times the first levels of my volume bar should be green and not yellow :)
19:24:05bertrikon my visionox display, it goes from yellow-green to a kind of pink
19:24:20lorenzo92kugel: in some minutes I'll go away for 20 mins or so, in case lebellium can help you ;)
19:25:22bertriklebellium, if you adjust the background colour in RB, at least the top bar is red, middle is green and bottom is blue, right?
19:25:23lebelliumbertrik: okay so it looks like the same on both displays. If you look at the volume picture on your computer, you see how different it is
19:25:43kugeleither we fix buildzip to not include the /mnt/media0 or we bindmount or symlink rockbox into the root
19:26:12lorenzo92kugel: yes already done that in the new firmare ;) okay see you later
19:26:25kugelgreat
19:27:10lebelliumbertrick: right. in the colours settings the colors are right
19:31:37CIA-10New commit by 03funman (r31111): mkamsboot/dualboot: use arm-elf-eabi cross compiler by default ...
19:31:44CIA-10New commit by 03funman (r31112): mkamsboot: make clip zip boot OF when pressing left button ...
19:32:44lebelliumfunman: why changing the keymapping for booting OF?
19:33:36CIA-10r31111 build result: 2 errors, 0 warnings (funman committed)
19:33:59dfkti liked the vol- button :/
19:34:45dfktno matter, some day we will have rockbox usb anyways :)
19:35:06CIA-10r31112 build result: 2 errors, 0 warnings (funman committed)
19:35:56funmandfkt: i didn't touch vol-
19:36:06dfktso both works? nice
19:36:39funmanyep, but confirming that left button works would be fine btw :)
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19:37:15dfktheh ok... will compile a bootloader after dinner :)
19:37:42desowin_that reminds me of porting the TNETV driver
19:41:23*kugel notices he never really used rockbox on tactile-only buttons
19:44:38funmanlebellium: all other sansas use the left key
19:45:11desowin_connect uses prev, should I change that to unify?
19:45:16lebelliumkugel: the R0 is just the best hardware ever for a RB port. Good choice :p
19:45:47kugelmy phone has better :p
19:46:20lorenzo92my pc has even better lol :D
19:46:46lorenzo92without joking, how does it look to you?
19:47:10kugelthe player?
19:47:52kugelseems solid
19:52:24jlbiasiniit seems that fw/rw doesn't work anymore on current build!
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19:55:48kugelhmm, which toolchain should we use?
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20:00:46lorenzo92I'm using code sourgery one
20:01:07lorenzo92on abi forum, lovasoa tried another one (or two) but without luck
20:01:43kugelwhich of them?
20:01:54funman/media/dev/rockbox/apps/plugins/credits.c:27:71: error: credits.raw: No such file or directory
20:01:58kugel(they're in 3 flavors, one for each libc)
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20:04:18lorenzo92kugel: no idea sorry :( I need to check the forum
20:04:27kugellorenzo92: is storage plenty fast or should I avoid copying the microsd to the internal memory?
20:04:59lorenzo92it's fast don't worry ;)
20:05:17lorenzo92yeah this device is pretty nice :)
20:05:30kugelindeed. that 5GB went quickly
20:06:27kugelno that didnt work :)
20:06:33lorenzo92uhm never tried such big files...but you need also to consider cache
20:06:41lorenzo92didn't worked? !
20:06:43lorenzo92strange uhm uhm
20:07:14kugelcopying died early and the microsd was unmounted
20:07:14lorenzo92you should try to write a script to copy it and see
20:07:26lorenzo92ah! unmounted
20:07:29lorenzo92ok indeed
20:07:40lorenzo92you need to place it in the slot before turn device onj
20:07:56kugelI mean it was unmounted during copying
20:08:36lorenzo92ah! strange
20:08:48lorenzo92any guess?
20:09:03kugelno. need dmesg.rock
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20:10:47lorenzo92dmesg.rock?
20:10:54kugela plugin to print dmesg :)
20:11:04lorenzo92unfortunately samsung disabled dmseg on original kernel :(:(
20:11:05kugela hypothetical
20:11:41lorenzo92ah! consider to use scripts ;)
20:11:55lorenzo92my firmware implements that: create a folder scripts and a subfolder log
20:12:11lorenzo92then place in this folder your scripts, they will run at startup :D
20:14:33lorenzo92I always forget if "scripts" or "script" ufff :)
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20:19:50lorenzo92kugel: this evening I probably work again on the radio module (si470x.ko)
20:20:05lorenzo92unfortunately there is no ioctl(s) for register direct access
20:20:46kugelokay
20:20:53lorenzo92but analazying with IDA seems not to be so diffcult to recreate a similar one (I have no knowledge )
20:21:02kugelI'll skim through the patch and see what can be improved or committed
20:21:12lorenzo92great
20:21:20lorenzo92I placed some NOTE and TODO ;)
20:21:44kugelconsidering our native drivers for si470x tuners it can't be that complicated
20:22:12lorenzo92yes I know, but since we don't have register access I need to redefine some options so use ioctl
20:23:40lorenzo92ah btw, as you probably noticed I'm still quite a newbie in C :)
20:23:55lorenzo92but I wanted to port RB, so why not? :p
20:23:55kugelhavent looked closely yet :p
20:24:07lorenzo92don't worry ;)
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20:24:33lebelliumkugel: if you manage to get the battery indicator properly working I give you a candy :D
20:24:41kugelSDL is still used right?
20:25:06kugelbut only for audio (except volume)?
20:25:15bertriklebellium, does white look white on your display? and does gray look gray? or does it have a colour tint?
20:27:43bertrikmeh, the git mirror appears to be out of date
20:29:16lorenzo92yes SDL only for audio, but I'm quite sure that if we would use ALSA directly, more performance + battery life
20:29:48lorenzo92mgue wanted to work on that, need to ask him :)
20:30:15kugelbertrik: update your .git/config http://pastie.org/2956418
20:30:52lebelliumbertrik: white doesn't really look white to me, it could be more white but maybe it's just due to the poor screen quality. Gray looks gray though.
20:31:33kugellorenzo92: well, getting of the sdl dependency would be great, as you need to compile it just for rockbox
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20:32:13lorenzo92yes sure...SDL is pretty tough I guess! Before removing it on the display part, rockbox was heavy lol
20:32:42kugelspeaking of which, do you know more about the glitches?
20:32:55kugelthe background is sometimes dran differently
20:33:33kugelit looks like some dithering is going on
20:33:57lorenzo92uhm yep. I guess you refer to the Auto Contrast function of our display
20:33:59lorenzo92;)
20:34:19bertrikkugel, I just updated that section, but git pull still doesn't see the recent commits by funman
20:34:38kugelbertrik: try git fetch −−all
20:34:59lorenzo92for glitches, I mean we need to improve the drawing of single points/lines of pixels. Right now is buggy since I cannot figure out in my mind correctly how both arrays are physically :)
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20:35:24lorenzo92but if you take a look at src this should be written
20:35:32bertrikhm, still the same
20:35:36kugelbertrik: works for me
20:35:51bertrikgit fetch −−all is done very quickly
20:36:12kugellorenzo92: it's row after row (so the first 320 pixel, then directly after the second 320, etc)
20:36:16kugel240*
20:37:01lorenzo92uhm okay...but to catch a single pixel is like, array[200][200]?
20:37:12lorenzo92anyway now I look for the radio ;)
20:37:41mc2739bertrik: I am seeing the same as you - last update I got was r31106
20:38:05kugellorenzo92: we have the LCD_ADDR() macro for those who can't wrap their heads around this :)
20:38:32lorenzo92ah! hehe indeed you see, we needed someone expert :D
20:38:59bertrikgit svn rebase gets me up-to-date
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20:42:29kugelheh
20:42:42kugellorenzo92: I still have my alsa sound branch
20:42:50*kugel gets that up-to-date
20:43:50lorenzo92kugel: interesting. Maybe this will be a great deal ;)
20:45:31*funman dislikes rockbox makefiles
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21:06:45lorenzo92still nothing for frequency set ioctl, don't understand how's implemented
21:06:52lorenzo92but at least get freq and scan are working
21:06:58lorenzo92maybe also get RSSI is working
21:07:00lorenzo92not sure
21:07:44funmanbertrik: how about enabling all plugins, even with ugly graphics?
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21:21:08funmanbertrik: http://pastie.org/2956647
21:22:31bertrikOh, that fixes the rest of the plugins?
21:23:05bertriksolitaire and blackjack cards will be too big, right?
21:23:11funmanmore or less
21:23:30funmansolitaire looks playable at least
21:24:06dfktneed some help with resizing graphics?
21:24:07bertrikI made a 13 px wide solitaire card deck, but found out it's still 2 pixels too big ... :(
21:24:09funmancards are ok for blackjack though
21:24:33bertriks/made/resized/
21:24:56bertrikplain resizing often looks ugly if the graphics are very small
21:25:24funmanindeed
21:26:10funmanbertrik: ok for committing this before we get nicer graphics?
21:26:33bertrikyes (but I haven't tried it)
21:27:24bertrikI think I prefer plugins with some having ugly graphics than keep delaying until it's perfect
21:28:22CIA-10New commit by 03funman (r31113): Sansa Clip Zip: enable all plugins ...
21:28:30bertrikfunny how I got doom working quicker than having tetris work :)
21:28:43funman:)
21:30:14CIA-10r31113 build result: 2 errors, 0 warnings (funman committed)
21:33:17desowin_well, sansa connect's runtime actually is over 8 hours, but due to lack of RTC support in rockbox yet it counts the time wrongly (7h 39min)
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21:46:07funmanbertrik: did you have a reference picture to check RGB ?
21:46:51kugellorenzo92: success :)
21:48:05fuzzixHey all, wondering if anyone has a partition table image for an 80G ipod classic, there doesn't appear to be one on this page: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IpodConversionToFAT32
21:48:11fuzzixMuch obliged
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21:51:41lorenzo92kugel: success what sorry? :D
21:52:07kugelI brought my alsa branch back to life
21:52:18kugeleven still works after rebasing 7k revisions :p
21:52:40kugelso yea, you cannot control volume with alsa, right?
21:52:56lorenzo92great! nono throug alsa is incomplete and buggy
21:53:01fuzzixhttp://ipl.derpapst.eu/wiki/Restore_without_iTunes#80GB - there's partition table info here but I believe the 80GB listed is the vide
21:53:02lorenzo92only samsung could do that :S
21:53:05fuzzix*video
21:53:17lorenzo92but really is alsa working on R0?
21:53:21kugellorenzo92: I mean alsa also doesnt have APIs for that
21:53:28lorenzo92ah ok!
21:53:28kugelI didnt try on the r0 yet
21:53:31lorenzo92not a problem ;)
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22:01:20kugellorenzo92: so, what toolchain now?
22:01:43lorenzo92code sourgery
22:01:44lorenzo92wait
22:02:17lorenzo92https://sourcery.mentor.com/sgpp/lite/arm/portal/release1803
22:02:32lorenzo92I used 4.3.2 but the newest should work
22:03:22kugelwe'll see :)
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22:07:06pamaurygevaerts: do you know HID well ?
22:08:28gevaertsno
22:09:25desowin_pamaury: you mean USB HID?
22:11:12pamauryyes, I want to be able to use the fuze+ touchpad in the simulator for easier development; I can hack something fast and dirty but I could also go the standard USB HID PID way, I'm wondering if it's worth it and if it's easy enough to change our usbhid driver, I haven't looked at it for a while
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22:16:21pamauryI'll try to go the hid way, seem easy to modify it, just need to read the crazy hid spec to find the good report
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22:18:31bluebrotherkugel: doesn't work. And svn export has more uses than existing "because each and every dir has .svn in it".
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22:18:48kugellorenzo92: arm-none-linux-gnueabi-gcc?
22:18:57bluebrotherwell, rm'ing .git would work but it defeats the purpose of what I was doing using svn export in the past
22:18:57lorenzo92yes
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22:19:22kugelbluebrother: why do you need the export?
22:19:31bluebrotherI'm not too motivated cloning a complete repository and throwing away the repository information just to get a small number of files out of the repository.
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22:19:51funmangit clone −−depth=1
22:20:09bluebrotherbecause I want to pick some files out of the repository. Without having a local repository
22:20:48bluebrotherfor example, for the langstat script for Rockbox Utility I want to get a few files and work with them. Then drop it.
22:21:01bluebrotherfunman: can I do that with a refspec?
22:21:27funmannot sure what a refspec is .. ?
22:21:30kugelbut you have a complete checkout for that?
22:21:45funmangit clone takes a repository URL
22:22:07bluebrotherkugel: I don't have a complete checkout and I don't want to use a checkout. Too dangerous having unwanted modifications in it.
22:22:29bluebrotherwell, can I get a specific revision / tag from git that way?
22:22:47funmanno
22:22:54*bluebrother reads git clone manpage
22:23:27bluebrotherthe problem is that I want to have a clean copy for building releases. Which means I can't trust _any_ checkout on disk
22:24:50bluebrotherI guess for git I need to have a clone around somewhere. Which changes the problem to "get a number of files (by list / wildcard) from a specific revision"
22:25:13bluebrothersomething that is pretty simple with svn but doesn't seem to be part of the git use case
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22:33:02kugellorenzo92: how do I prepare SDL?
22:33:22bluebrotherhmpf. Why can I get Rockbox Utility building pretty easily from the command line but not from Qt Creator on Windows?
22:33:23lorenzo92I attached necessary libs in my zip, but wait
22:34:15lorenzo92something like that
22:34:20lorenzo92./configure −−enable-input-tslib=no −−disable-esd −−disable-pulseaudio −−disable-cdrom −−disable-video-x11 −−enable-alsa-shared=no −−with-alsa-prefix=/home/lorenzo/YP-R0_DEV/rockbox/CRAMFS/lib −−with-alsa-inc-prefix=/home/lorenzo/YP-R0_DEV/rockbox/alsafs/include −−host=arm-linux CC=/arm_dev/usr/local/arm/4.3.2/bin/arm-none-linux-gnueabi-gcc −−prefix=/home/lorenzo/YP-R0_DEV/rockbox/rom
22:34:57lorenzo92you need the firmware's alsa lib, attached in zip
22:35:45kugelwhich zip?
22:36:17lorenzo92uhm okay wait
22:36:52kugelah, how_to_build.tar.gz?
22:37:10lorenzo92yes :)
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23:12:41JamesHuntHello. Is there some changings in WPS skinning? Skins no longer work in the last few builds on Sansa Clip Plus.
23:14:18scorcheanyone know where these images dfkt gave me to use on the themesite are from? - did he make them?
23:14:51JamesHuntPlayer just freezes when selecting wps-file, helps only hard reset. I must create bug report, no?
23:21:45*bluebrother wonders if supporting Visual Studio for building Rockbox Utility would make sense
23:22:01bluebrothermain problem is the lack of C99 support in VC :(
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23:31:03JamesHuntThis bug started from today's build, in yesterday's there is no.
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23:44:28gevaertsscorche: I think he did
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23:45:09scorchegevaerts: i just want to make sure of that so there aren't any potential license issues before I put it ont he themesite ;)
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23:48:53JamesHuntOk, here's a bug report http://rockbox.org/tracker/task/12425 and here's still unaccepted updated language file http://rockbox.org/tracker/task/12420
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23:50:13kugelwho can rename wiki pages?
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23:53:08funmanbluebrother: to download partial tree perhaps you could do that from gitweb
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