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#rockbox log for 2011-12-20

00:00:47scorchei just tried it
00:01:30thomasthanks... its not really intuitive..
00:01:39thomasand it takes ages to retype all the information
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00:01:47thomasfrom the other captcha and so on
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00:10:425EXAAM35LNew commit by 03funman (r31372): usb-drv-as3525v2: revert part of r31243 ...
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00:12:575EXAAM35Lr31372 build result: All green
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00:18:03funmanpamaury: http://anythingbutipod.com/forum/showthread.php?s=67eb78fc6cb9fb040f0f00afa4042281&p=589682#post589682 we seem to be faster than OF :)
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04:04:20dartmouthJust a note on Clip Zip USB if it helps you any- I had an issue a few days ago (I believe it was with r31320, but may have been a little earlier) where after safely removing from Mint, the Zip would continually data abort/restart after 'scanning disk' for a minute. The culprit was a folder of MP3s that I'd changed tags and renamed with EasyTag, and after deleting that folder RB started working again. I could eject the SD, power on RB, and insert/play fr
04:05:14dartmouth*changed tags and renamed on the SD, in the Zip while plugged in
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06:19:05bobohi
06:20:22bobocan anyone tell me how to access the shortcuts on 3.10?
06:21:11boboi used the dev version a while and it had a shortcuts menu in main menu, but the stable version does not unfortunately
06:28:05[Saint]There's no dev/stable version of 3.10, it either is 3.10 or its not.
06:29:43boboi am using 3.10 now
06:29:50boboused a dev version before
06:30:12[Saint]I'm not sure if the shortcuts menu was comitted before, or after, the release. It nay be that it was committed afterward.
06:30:17bobothe current dev version does have the shortcus menu, 3.10 stable does not
06:30:30[Saint]Right, see above.
06:31:02boboalright. so that means there is no way to access the shortcuts then?
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06:31:30[Saint]Correct. Update to an svn build and you'll get them back.
06:32:08[Saint]s/them/it/
06:32:26bobothat's weird. why can you create them then? as the shortcuts plugin has been there for a while
06:33:20[Saint]Its a different system altogether.
06:33:39[Saint]Shortcuts was completely re-implemented.
06:33:52boboi rather wait for a new stable, as the current svn seems to crash my ipod when connecting usb cable
06:34:01boboalright. cheers for the info
06:34:11scorcheif no one reports bugs to us, they can never get fixed...
06:34:37[Saint]The old system functioned in an entirely different way, and never had an entry in the main menu for shortcuts.
06:35:41[Saint]And, scorche is quite right...report your bug re: the svn build not booting (verify it still exists) on Flyspray.
06:36:05[Saint]So the developers actually know about it.
06:37:01[Saint]Whoops. Why did I read "not booting", "crashing on inserting USB" rather, sorry.
06:39:59boboalright, will do.
06:40:57[Saint]Thanks.
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07:22:025EXAAM35LNew commit by 03desowin (r31373): Sansa Connect: Disable EMIF clock after booting main binary. Raise the threshold values for battery dangerous and shutoff levels. ...
07:22:36desowinit's not below 5% as some battery benches contain info afterwards but some don't
07:22:49desowin(not reliable)
07:23:19desowinwiki has to be updated to reflect that
07:24:32desowinalso discharge curve loses its linearity there
07:28:115EXAAM35Lr31373 build result: All green
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07:38:01desowinbut well, it can last about half an hour at 4% and below
07:38:33desowinbut the battery shouldn't really be discharged that much
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08:47:55wodzdesowin: % indicator (it comes from avr right?) doesn't tell you anything. You need to measure voltage over battery connector to judge if 5% is fine or not.
08:48:37wodzyou don't know the assumption of callibration curve implemented in avr
08:48:53wodz(unless you dissasembled avr firmware)
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09:21:16wodzpetur: ping
09:21:28peturyes?
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09:21:42wodzI think you are the author of AGC feature
09:22:06peturnot exactly, but I did commit it and know a bit about it
09:22:09wodzwhat are the requirements to use it?
09:22:24peturthe gain steps have to be small enough
09:23:07wodzis 0.5dB - 0.75dBok
09:23:13wodz?
09:23:15peturyes
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09:23:42petur0.5 is what the irivers have iirc
09:23:57wodznow from the quick glance at the code it looks to me like it assumes some strange gain input format (uda1380 specific?)
09:24:23peturdoes it?
09:24:33peturthat I can't remember
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09:25:16peturlet me peek in the code
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09:26:18wodzit performs adjustments +/- 1 which I guess comes from hardcoded 0.5dB step
09:27:27wodzI would expect it to perform +/- 1 * step size (which is defined in audiohw_settings[])
09:28:06peturlooks like you're right
09:29:12wodzauto_gain_control() worker function has some hardcoded values also (which I don't quite understand where they come from)
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09:30:57peturlucky for us everything is explained in the comments
09:31:36peturthe guy who wrote it went away even before I committed it
09:31:49wodzpetur: not that much - code seems to be slightly changed and comments not updated
09:32:22wodzfor example comment at the top of agc_gain_is_max() is bogus
09:32:23peturI was being sarcastic - there are no useful comments
09:33:36peturthis is too long ago, I can't remember any of these details :/
09:33:41wodzI don't understand what units are used in read_peak_levels()
09:34:08peturit uses the 16bit values iirc
09:34:43peturso some values are hardcoded conversions from dB to 16bit linear
09:35:02wodzhmm
09:35:10wodzthat makes sense
09:35:47wodzis there some easy way to test AGC feature?
09:36:02peturyou have an iriver?
09:36:13peturh1xx/h3xx?
09:36:33wodzunfortunately no
09:36:38peturI think those are the only targets that use the code
09:37:13wodzyes I know and I would like to change this as HD200/HD300 seems to be capable as well
09:38:18peturyou can just try enabling it.... the puropse of AGC is to keep the peaks at -3dB, by increase/decrease of gain. In the case of safety mode, it will only decrease if too high, never increase
09:38:26petur*purpose
09:39:35peturbalance is a functionality to change L/R gain to get a good balance as well - I never use that
09:40:01wodzin the current form it will not work for sure as wm8750 driver uses gains in centibels so +/- 1 should be equivalent to +/- 50 in this case
09:40:28peturfeel free to experiment ;)
09:44:25wodzpetur: anyway thanks for your comments - at least I understand what is behind hardcoded values in read_peak_levels()
09:45:22petursorry I can't tell more, I haven't been active for a while, although I would like to do more, I just can't find the time
09:47:32wodzsound_steps() should do the trick - I'll experiment when I find some free time
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09:54:22pixelmapetur: even if the gain steps are big so adjustments are audible - wouldn't it still be. better than clipping?
09:54:39pixelmathinking about other targets
09:54:53peturpixelma: I guess for safety mode that is true, yes
09:57:28peturyou'd have to disable the other modes as users would complain ;)
09:57:33pixelmawell yeah, I guess increasing gain would be better on PC
09:58:35peturfor speech (lectures), full AGC is ok
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10:00:17pixelmaexcept for the Iaudio internal mic with the 0/+20dB gain steps probably... ;)
10:00:21peturor if you record an quiet (like accoustic) concert, and are in the middle of the public, as the applause will ruin the gain ;)
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11:31:21swildehi *, is it possible to exclude some directories from database creation/update?
11:33:37swildeI have put ~40.000 sid files on my e200 to test the new sid support (which is nice btw.) and to my great surprise all the sid meta data ends up in the database. While this feature is cool in general, in my case it is quite annoying (it _is_ impressive though to see thousands of entries in the database menus and rockbox actually handling them quick and well)...
11:34:20gevaertsLook for "database.ignore" in the manual
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11:43:12swildegevaerts: thanks, that's what I was looking for!
11:43:24[Saint]I generally put a database.ignore in the root of my media folder, and a database.unignore in the folders I want scanned.
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13:52:02desowinafter doing endless loop which toggles GIO line, with that udelay implementation, there's little jitter for 1us delay, but for 2us and more it's neglictable
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14:00:24desowinhttp://tnij.org/opk3 - I guess that's precise enough for udelay()
14:00:56AndChat|Hi, I have an ipod classic with rockbox, and when I plug it in (windows 7) it is not recognized and it isn't recognized as a disk. I an on a nightly build from a few days ago. Does anyone know of a solution?
14:01:17kugeldesowin: cant open that link
14:01:55kugelAndChat|: the ipod classic is still in an early stage and unsupported. possibly usb just doesnt work yet
14:02:16desowinhttp://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/522/sansaconnect10usloop.jpg/ - this should work
14:02:42AndChat|Kugel: it was working before, this problem is pretty new.
14:03:13AndChat|Sorry, I should have mentioned that.
14:03:34desowinhmm, I guess it's CIA hook that failed, as commit appears on frontpage, and yet I have "Transmitting file data ."
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14:31:025EXAAM35LNew commit by 03desowin (r31376): TMS320DM320: Use TIMER1 (tick generator) to make udelay() precise.
14:37:05*desowin blames that crude udelay() implemenation that was there for such a hassle
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14:43:13desowinsomeone should check if mrobe 500 usb still works, as it uses udelay
14:43:32gevaertsI'll check tonight
14:43:46gevaertsAfter I've checked if I now have usable runtime data
14:47:26desowinactually sleep(0) (which takes max 10 ms) was faster than udelay(100)... the udelay was highly inaccurate
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15:00:33labcoattechhi all
15:03:34labcoattechI've installed rockbox on my sansa clip zip, when in rockbox mode windows 7 is asking for drivers
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15:06:28labcoattechcan I only transfer files using the sansa firmware in windows?
15:07:14gevaertsDid you install rockbox 3.10 or a current build?
15:08:15labcoattechhttp://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum/showthread.php?t=66292
15:08:24labcoattechcurrent build
15:09:05*gevaerts is an idiot
15:09:16gevaertsRight. There isn't a 3.10 release for the clip zip...
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15:09:51gevaertsUSB support is still a bit unstable in rockbox, so yes, use the original firmware if rockbox usb doesn't work for you
15:10:26labcoattechI am new to rockbox as I only got my sansa zip the other day
15:10:39labcoattechthank you for your help
15:12:05desowindo we have general problems in usbstack or is it just drivers?
15:12:20gevaertsdesowin: the usual amsv2 thing
15:12:45desowinso I could attempt porting that TNETV105PAP driver
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15:53:35desowinwhat about having unix_time_to_tm() and unix_time_from_tm() in firmware/drivers/rtc/unixtime_conversion.c?
15:54:00desowinor are there such functions buried somewhere?
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16:46:49rarogjlbiasini: Hello. :) I hope that probably soon a new bootloader will be there with the last fixes to sd problems... Though my case is quite rare. But I was able to track down the problem of FS #12468. Anything further seems to be beyound my field of understanding.
16:46:50fs-bluebothttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12468 3Hotswap fails to recognize the card after it was removed in USB mode (bugs, unconfirmed)
16:55:535EXAAM35LNew commit by 03mc2739 (r31378): Add missing strings to American English
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17:06:39gevaertswebguest16: there are lots of people here. If you have a question, just ask
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17:14:49webguest16Right. My sansa fuze is in a truly messed up state. Initially I installed rockbox properly and upon adding files to he player I realised that sometimes half the fileswould show up, sometimes none of them. I have tried al possible combinations. I have dragged and dropped using my computer, and I have use WMP in both MSC and MTC mode. Nothing seems to be working.
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17:20:06gevaertswebguest16: you should use MSC mode
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17:20:33gevaertsIf you have "interesting" situations it's always worth it to check the filesystem
17:23:25webguest16So does any1 have any ideas? I did use MSC mode. What do you guys think is going on
17:26:43gevaertsI can see a few possibilities: (a) you put files in directories that are marked hidden, (b) you (possibly accidentally) changed the "show files" options, or (c) the filesystem on the fuze is corrupted
17:27:25gevaertsTo check for (a) or (b), set the "show files" option to "all"
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17:53:47jlbiasinirarog: well it seems you manager to follow the line! just go on
17:59:18rarogandyway I'm quite happy that the fuze+ port is very usable now before christmas.
17:59:49rarogin most parts the ports just needs some polishing.
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18:37:38lorenzo92kugel: just seen you have added another patch ;)
18:37:42lorenzo92kugel: changelog?
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18:49:52kugellorenzo92: I only synced
18:50:09kugelI don't want to do massive changes anymore before committing
18:50:11lorenzo92kugel: great :)
18:50:21lorenzo92yeah better...
18:50:30kugelI'm basically waiting for the ROM stuff
18:50:42lorenzo92yeah, if you see in the private chat I wrote about that
18:50:44lorenzo92;)
18:51:09kugelI saw that
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18:51:15lorenzo92okay ;)
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18:53:54n1skugelp: could you check out dircache.c:dircache_resume ? it seems bogus
18:54:29n1sor well, at least the return
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19:04:20funmanusb on amsv2 seems rock solid now :)
19:04:42dfktindeed it does :) thanks for the early christmas present!
19:05:26dfktalso nice job on the sansa junk disktidy additions
19:07:09funmandfkt: do you have a clip+ ? could you test USB mode of bootloader?
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19:08:32funmanso we can remove OF-boot on USB plug
19:09:06dfktwhen i plug a powered off clip+ in, it always boots OF, even when i hold the left button
19:10:16dfktwith a bootloader i built off r31254 - is that current enough?
19:10:54funmanhm nope i enabled SD write in bootloader in a more recent rev
19:11:01dfktah ok, will build a new one
19:11:03funmanand you need to patch mkamsboot too
19:11:13funmanthen the hotkey is to press center while plugging
19:11:27dfktpatch, or just new make for mkamsboot?
19:11:36funmanpatch
19:12:19funmanhttp://pastie.org/3048429
19:12:24funmani will try on fuzev2
19:12:25dfktthanks
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19:24:10funmandfkt: works fine on fuzev2 and clipzip
19:29:20dfktfunman, weird... clip+ still boots into OF. i did a svn up and patched mkamsboot, but it still shows an old revision
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19:29:42funmanold revision for the bootloader or for mkamsboot?
19:29:56funmanyou need to run make in dualboot/ first, then make in rbutil/mkamsboot
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19:30:52dfktfunman - http://pastie.org/3048517
19:31:07dfktold mkamsboot despite new trunk
19:32:28funmandfkt: make -C dualboot && make
19:32:29dfktooh, dualboot - that's new to me
19:32:33dfktok
19:33:48funman[INFO] Dual-boot function size: should be 184 bytes
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19:36:04dfktconnected fine on the first try :)
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19:37:32dfktholding center button shows "bootloader usb mode" and connects fine too
19:37:41dfktholding left boots OF
19:41:30dfkt5th connect attempt, all working fine
19:41:44dfktdamn, what will you do now, that there's no more USB to fix? ;)
19:45:06funmanbreak it again when we merge the ipod nano2g and amsv2 code
19:45:12dfktheh
19:45:39bertrikI wonder if any USB problems we've seen were purely driver problems, or if there is some other issue.
19:45:50bertrikFor example, I've seen weird stuff on disconnect, aborts, etc.
19:45:53lebelliumhello kugel: what has been decided regarding the ROM? Our modded fw 2.30 cannot be the official RB loader?
19:47:46funmanbertrik: i've seen aborts too on the clip zip
19:48:175EXAAM35LNew commit by 03funman (r31379): mkamsboot: don't boot OF when USB is plugged ...
19:48:225EXAAM35LNew commit by 03funman (r31380): mkamsboot: update README
19:49:06lebelliumbertrik and funman: after loading my theme, the WPS can never load properly the first time, have to turn the Zip off and turn it on again. Did you notice that? Any clue?
19:49:20funmanso all AMSv2 were tested, except the clipv2.
19:50:17funmanlebellium: didn't notice as i don't change the theme often
19:50:255EXAAM35Lr31379 build result: All green
19:50:40funmandfkt: do you have a clipv2? i only see sideral and labmda listed on http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/RockboxTesting
19:50:42gevaertsdesowin: I've now tried to get battery_bench results twice. This mr500 seems to always shut down after one to two hours, with the battery still providing more than enough power, no idea why...
19:51:00gevaertsdesowin: also, USB seems to be broken these days, even with this two day old build
19:51:13gevaertsSo if I were you I wouldn't worry too much about it
19:51:40dfktfunman, no only clipv1
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19:52:285EXAAM35Lr31380 build result: All green
19:52:31funmani would like to send a batch of AMSv2 bootloaders to Bagder but we need to test it
19:53:21dfktyou could post a bootloader in the clipv2 thread on abi, i'm sure someone would volunteer
19:53:36funmanalso what is the version number now?
19:54:17dfktmy mkamsboot version number?
19:54:30funmanno the bootloader one
19:54:43funmannow it would be 4.0
19:54:49funmancurrent one is 3.0
19:55:02dfktyes, from august
19:59:14dfktadded the clip zip (and myself) to http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/RockboxTesting
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20:02:53funmanfunman/m30pa.bin.zip">http://people.videolan.org/~funman/m30pa.bin.zip : patched firmware with bootloader 4.0 (r31380)
20:03:48dfktfunman, one thing i notice on the clip+ (with normal usb connect, not center button), is that the battery doesn't show charging in the default status bar
20:03:57funmandfkt: should i write in "Rockbox: Clipv2" or make a new thread?
20:04:21dfkthmm, as you like - the clipv2 never got much activity
20:04:39funmandfkt: i think you should ask JdGordon , the theme i have on clip zip show the moving bar
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20:05:56dfktfunman, i'll put the new bootloader on my zip and check battery animation there
20:06:56funmanok, done
20:07:20funmanBagder: can i send you 3 new bootloaders to put on the server? and probably another one in a few days when it's tested
20:07:38Bagdersure!
20:08:07funmanwhat do you prefer: .zip or that i put it on my http server?
20:09:20Bagderyou can mail me the zip, it'll be handy
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20:12:58funmanBagder: done!
20:13:18Bagdergot it
20:14:54Bagderuploaded!
20:15:305EXAAM35LNew commit by 03funman (r31381): Tag release v4 of the Sansa AMSv2 bootloaders
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20:19:455EXAAM35LNew commit by 03funman (r31382): rbutil: enable clipzip
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20:22:005EXAAM35Lr31382 build result: All green
20:22:24keyb_grfunman: Your USB-enabled ClipV2 bootloader seems to work fine.
20:22:49funmankeyb_gr: great :)
20:24:57funmanBagder: clipv2 bootloader in your inbox
20:25:49funmannow we need manual install procedure for the clip zip in the wiki; an entry in MajorChanges for usb
20:26:33Bagderfunman: done!
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20:36:33desowingevaerts: I thought Connect has bad runtime... but the mrobe 500, well, just mere two hours? :O
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20:37:06gevaertsdesowin: well, no. The battery still has 80% left or so. I have *no* idea why it stops
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20:38:43desowingevaerts: maybe it needs calibrating the dangerous and shutoff in powermgmt-mr500.c
20:39:09desowingevaerts: actually it has dangerous as 3600 and shutoff as 3580, and I think it's pretty high
20:39:28gevaertsThe battery_bench logs show 3.9V and higher
20:39:33desowinbut 80% according to OF or Rockbox?
20:40:05gevaertsrockbox
20:41:11desowinheh, funny thing, the last_tick in mr500 battery_adc_voltage seems reduntant
20:41:29desowinno idea what it was supposed to do
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20:53:44desowina*b+neg(b)=a+neg(b) in boolean, will put improvement to udelay while condition in next commit
20:55:24n1s?
20:55:54desowinn1s: I have reduntant condition in logic expression
20:56:21desowindunno if compiler picks it up and optimizes
20:58:47desowinbut that commit is going to be tommorow, as I have hope that there's runtime improvement as well (some changes in SD code)
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21:04:46desowinwell, compiler won't optimize it as one of the variables is volatile
21:05:26Tornevolatile only prohibits from eliminating loads and stores, not from optimising the actual computation of the expression
21:05:58desowinoh
21:07:38Tornee.g. if you read a volatile variable, do some math on it, and then do nothing with the result, it's perfectly entitled to eliminate all the math and repalce the line with just a single load that does nothing else
21:08:11topikusb is not quite stable on my clipzip
21:09:04topikusing dfkt's bootloader and build r31382, i get a data abort at 300552D8 when plugging in usb while rockbox is running
21:09:18remlapWaiting for my clipzip from Play.com
21:11:44remlapDo you like yours topik hardware wise how does it feel?
21:11:55remlapwell built?
21:12:21topikok built. clip+ feels just a bit sturdier
21:12:51topikperhaps it's the smooth outer shell that feels thinner
21:13:00remlapthe free memory card came before the zip typical of Play.com
21:14:07topikplugging in the clipzip while off starts rockbox, shows main menu, shows usb logo and then freezes
21:14:34remlapim happy to run the stock for usb for now really
21:14:40remlaptill that bug is perfect
21:14:46remlapis fixed*
21:14:48bluebrotherspeaking of bootloaders: does anyone know why there isn't a bootloader for the yh-820 available?
21:14:53topikme too, just testing along and providing feedback
21:15:08remlapactually
21:15:14remlapmight put some music on the card now
21:15:30remlapbefore it comes so its on there ready
21:15:52topikafter reading funman proclaiming it 'rock solid'
21:17:31topikperhaps it's my clipzip being moody
21:17:38topikgetting all kinds of different crashes
21:17:51remlapNever used Rockbox before but I built a VortexBox to rip CD's so may as well rip to FLAC and needed new player to handle them.
21:17:53topikdata abort, freeze, garbled screen + freeze
21:18:14remlaplooks so much better than stock sansa I've seen on youtube
21:20:50keyb_grI'm sure someone must have thought about a memory test plugin at some time? Would be helpful in sorting out temperamental hardware.
21:21:21remlaptopix what theme do you run?
21:21:51remlaptopik what theme do you run?
21:21:55topikdfkt's minimum zip theme
21:22:03desowinisn't it that those data aborts are more due to addressing either non-existent memory or unaligned (when ie. word access)?
21:22:19desowin(rather than faulty SDRAM chip that is)
21:23:02remlapYeah that's what I've tested with the emulator like it alot
21:23:06keyb_gr#1 rule of bad memory: You never know what'll happen.
21:23:23topikis there any documentation on why rockbox shows the usb logo when plugged in instead of still being able to access the menu ?
21:23:44gevaertstopik: and what would you do with the menu?
21:24:14desowinkeyb_gr: and writing memory test plugin would be pain, as it should contain the memory ranger for *all* targets its supposed to run at, you just can't make it much universal
21:24:22n1skeyb_gr: there is a memory test plugin
21:24:31topikselect music to play while it charges ?
21:24:49n1sanyway lots of things can cause random crashes and data aborts
21:25:00topikor check battery charging status
21:25:01n1stopik: you can't access the disk while in usb mode
21:25:08gevaertstopik: then hold a button while plugging in
21:26:32desowinactually the test_mem doesn't test all memories available
21:26:39topikthanks for that suggestion gevaerts
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21:26:55topikand i didn't know that n1s
21:26:58topikmakes sense
21:27:09desowinbut if micro is faulty then it won't help you anyway
21:27:59topikwhen plugging in my clipzip to usb (not holding buttons) with microsd inserted, i see 2 empty drives in win7. when disconnecting i have to hard-reset the clipzip to get a response again
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21:28:43gevaertsIs HID enabled on AMSv2?
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21:29:16topiknot afaik
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21:30:48jlbiasinihello while working on a new bootloaderinstallimx method for rbutil I noticed that the file: rbutil/rbutilqt/base/bootloaderinstallfile.cpp contain 2 times the line: #include <QtDebug> someone with acces to the tree should probably correct that... :)
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21:31:35jlbiasinior am I missing something?
21:32:51bluebrotherjlbiasini: no. I'll fix it
21:32:545EXAAM35LNew commit by 03gevaerts (r31383): Remove duplicate include. Thanks to Jean-Louis Biasini for spottin this.
21:33:09*gevaerts tells bluebrother to be quicker next time :)
21:33:14jlbiasinilol
21:33:34jlbiasiniwow that was fast!
21:33:53kugelTorne: the compiler cannot remove the math. as you said, it must not remove load/stores, that includes math because variables are always in memory. having them in registers is an optimization
21:34:32bertrikI think we've even had triple includes :)
21:34:56Torne..hrm? yes it can
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21:35:22Torneif it's an assignment *to* a volatile it can't not compute the value of the right hand side
21:35:29Tornebut if it's any other expression involving a volatile it can
21:35:405EXAAM35LNew commit by 03bertrik (r31384): Another round of making local functions static
21:35:42kugelmaking b volatile is telling the compiler it can have different values in a*b+neg(b)
21:35:49Torneyes
21:35:56Tornebut all it has to do is read it from memory twice.
21:36:02bluebrothergevaerts: meh
21:36:20Torneit doesn't have to negate it, or add it to itself, or multiply itby a, unless you assign the result to a volatile variable
21:37:07Tornewell, or use it for something else
21:37:295EXAAM35Lr31384 build result: 0 errors, 4 warnings (bertrik committed)
21:37:55kugellebellium: nothing is decided
21:38:51desowinTorne: that's assuming the expression is not used at all; so in this particular case it should produce different code as in fact, one of variables inside b is volatile
21:38:57kugellebellium: the ROM can be official loader if wanted (although I'd like something more rockbox'y). What I want is the tools and instructions to make that rom in SVN
21:40:01Tornedesowin: sure; that's what i said
21:46:12lebelliumkugel : What do you mean by "more rockboxy"? Lorenzo will give you the package tomorrow max
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21:57:175EXAAM35LNew commit by 03bertrik (r31385): Disable unused functions for archos-player in apps/screen_access.c
21:57:45kugellebellium: perhaps a logo or something
21:58:08kugelhow it looks is not important, but it's important for us that we can reproduce it
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21:59:135EXAAM35Lr31385 build result: All green
21:59:15lorenzo92kugel: samsung logo is in the bootloader. It is possible to edit it, but NO final user can update MBoot without samsung tool
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22:01:11kugelI meant the USB mode
22:01:17kugel(sorry I wasnt clear)
22:01:23lorenzo92ah okay :)
22:01:44lorenzo92yes why not, it's easy after all and yes could be nice ;)
22:05:575EXAAM35LNew commit by 03bertrik (r31386): local variable app/gui/icon.c/iconsets can be made static
22:07:485EXAAM35Lr31386 build result: All green
22:15:47dfktdoes the forum have some hiccups? i posted a reply in a thread, and it disappeared
22:16:54gevaertsdfkt: resurected
22:17:03dfktweird... thanks
22:17:08gevaertsThe spam filter has some false positives
22:17:27dfktoh, now it's double... i fear when i edit it, it disappears again
22:17:38gevaertsDid you try posting twice?
22:17:50dfktno, i edited the post, then it disappeared
22:18:09bluebrotherI've got a PM earlier today from someone complaining that the forum lost 4 messages of him
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22:18:41bluebrotherhaven't had any issues myself though
22:18:49dfktmaybe the forum didn't like that i edited the post just a few seconds after i posted it?
22:18:55gevaertsbluebrother: It didn't. If it's the thread I'm thinking about, there were at least a dozen :)
22:19:44bluebrotherah, a double-triple-multiple submit click person?
22:20:04gevaertsYes. Try posting five times or so, and then post seventeen times that you can't post
22:20:23gevaertsOh well, I guess it does look weird when it happens
22:22:13gevaertsI do have some wishlist things about the spam filter, but I still wouln't want to disable it
22:22:45bluebrotherhaving the rss feed not show up spam messages would be nice :)
22:23:27gevaertsI *think* it only shows them if you have enough permissions
22:23:44gevaertsAnd I tend to like it that way. The rss feed is one of the main ways I know there's spam :)
22:24:25lorenzo92just an old feedback, when I posted my first thing on rockbox forum was deleted :) not so nice for a first poster hihi :p
22:24:52gevaertslorenzo92: the thing is that the things I have in mind as improvements won't help first posters :)
22:25:21lorenzo92;)
22:25:46gevaertsIt's more that people with 50 posts or so over more than say a month are rather unlikely to be spammers
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22:26:54scorcheyeah - it is just a shame that there is no configuration options at all...
22:27:29*gevaerts nods
22:28:15gevaertsOr interaction with other addons. This automerging is fine for regular posts, but I'd prefer it to not merge things that akismet intercepts
22:28:47scorchegevaerts: that in theory could be fixable by wading through the mess of code that is the forums, but i dont recommend it
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22:29:24gevaertsscorche: well, everything is fixable by doing that
22:29:53scorchegevaerts: not really - we have no control over what akismet catches and doesnt catch
22:29:59gevaertswe could (in theory) submit everything to akismet and then auto-rescue things from whitelisted people
22:30:48gevaertsWe don't have control over akismet, but we do have control over what we do with its results
22:31:04scorchetrue...
22:31:56gevaertsNow if Mr Someone had more time...
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22:57:45TheLemonManhell, got 0xBC09 as nand id but this player has a Samsung nand
22:58:16TheLemonMani wonder what the dma has done to that value
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23:02:365EXAAM35LNew commit by 03wodz (r31387): AGC: respect gain steps defined in audiohw_settings[]
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23:03:51jlbiasiniI need to read the first line of a text file in order to autodetect fuze+: can I #include <QTextStream> in rbutil/rbutilqt/base/autodetection.cpp or is it too much for so a basic action... and if so what method should I use?
23:04:275EXAAM35Lr31387 build result: All green
23:04:54TheLemonManjlbiasini: istream ?
23:05:23jlbiasiniok I'll will have a look to it then
23:05:35jlbiasiniTheLemonMan: thx
23:05:52bluebrotherjlbiasini: you should be able to use QFile and readLine()
23:06:28bluebrotherTheLemonMan: we're using Qt, so mixing in STL might not be the best solution
23:06:53bluebrotherjlbiasini: in base/, you can use everything from QtCore.
23:07:37jlbiasinibluebrother: that's what I wanted to do but I thought I'll need QTextStream for that ;) If not then even better!
23:07:51bluebrotheroh, just noticed that QFile doesn't have readLine()
23:08:07TheLemonManoh i taught it was the other way round, using qt to do file io
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23:14:11bluebrotherjlbiasini: that's interesting. In RockboxInfo() a function QFile::readLine() is used, but the documentation of QFile doesn't tell about it.
23:14:26bluebrotheror I'm failing to see that in the docs
23:14:47bluebrothereither case, since it's used there it should work in your case as well :)
23:15:57bluebrotherat least my memory wasn't fooling me too much :)
23:16:38funmanbertrik: i think we should make a new mkamsboot release
23:16:40jlbiasinibluebrother: actually it seems that readline() is in QIODevice and therefore in qfile... if i get it correctly....
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23:17:22bluebrotheryes.
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23:17:41*bluebrother is a bit tired and therefore somewhat slow right now
23:17:52jlbiasiniok so problem solve thanks
23:24:19funmankugel: can you have a look at FS #12461 ? it shows a malloc error
23:24:20fs-bluebothttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12461 3sansa clip+: usb does not work at all. (bugs, unconfirmed)
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23:47:57jlbiasiniinteresting: Fuze+ get autodetected with usb anyway #imstupid!
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