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#rockbox log for 2012-01-05

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00:01:33[Saint]megal0maniac: from the sounds of things...what you're probably already doing, testing svn head builds and reporting issues.
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00:03:27blind_testerfunman: is funman/apk/">http://people.videolan.org/~funman/apk/ from you? Do you have the SDK installed and are able to upload an actual rockbox version as apk-file for android? This would be great! :-)
00:04:42gevaertsblind_tester: rasher.dk/rockbox/android/">http://rasher.dk/rockbox/android/ might be useful
00:04:59megal0maniacShall keep at it, then. I can't wait for the Fuze+ to be stable.
00:05:31blind_testergevaerts: Great - thanks!
00:07:19[Saint]blind_tester: what res is the target?
00:07:34[Saint]You may also want my theme from the tracker.
00:08:33blind_testerSaint: Xperia X8 - 320x480
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00:09:57[Saint]You're in luck then
00:10:46[Saint]http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12254
00:12:58blind_testerSaint: Aehm in a few words? What is this?
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00:15:38[Saint]The installation is a little convoluted, after an initial (clean/default) install extract the .zip for your resolution to the devices sdcard and launch Rockbox, navigate to Settings - Theme Settings - Browse theme files - then select "cabbieV2".
00:16:02blind_testerSaint: Ah - thank you!
00:16:07[Saint]In a few words, it completely re-implements the entire hi
00:16:14[Saint]*ui
00:17:15[Saint]Giving features that will (probably) eventually be commuted, but haven't yet been...because people seem to find themes boring :)
00:17:32[Saint]Bah! *committed
00:18:11blind_testerhehe
00:19:43[Saint]I've been working on it a looooong time bit fell ill (and went AWOL for a month) recently and time has been an issue. I consider it to be many orders of magnitude more usable than the default installation's theme.
00:20:15[Saint]...I don't appear to be the only one either, so that's a bonus :)
00:21:58blind_testeri will give it a try :-)
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00:23:56blind_testerSaint: does it have navigation buttons in folder view?
00:24:51blind_testerups: rockbox has closed.. no comment :-(
00:25:22[Saint]No, actually. There's not a "sane" way to do this. But if your device has a hardware dpad you can navigate with that.
00:26:17blind_testerhmm normal hardware buttons are not used either ... back could be use but nothing happens..
00:26:39blind_testerehmm.. moment please
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00:27:25blind_testeri am not right... it back button works
00:27:53[Saint]"Menu" and "Back" are definitely used if present. A hardware dpad should work if present also.
00:28:12blind_testerups... crashed again
00:28:31[Saint]Hmmm. Odd.
00:29:16[Saint]I haven't heard of stability issues in raaa for some time now.
00:29:18blind_testerany click... volume skip forward and it crahes....
00:29:30blind_testermaybe the next daily build :-)
00:29:37blind_testerok i will go.. bye and thanx
00:29:55gevaertsvolume skip forward?
00:30:03stripwaxHrm, FS #12216 seems to bite me every time I go to "update database". (seems to....). After database update begins, dircache is off, and stays off until next reboot.
00:30:03fs-bluebothttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12216 3Dircache shuts down when closing a file that was opened prior to reloading the dircache (bugs, new)
00:30:33blind_testerno volume and after increasing speed it crashed as well as during skip to next track.
00:31:21blind_testerargl - correct: no - after selecting volume and increasing the volume it crashed as well as during skip to next track.
00:31:32blind_testerom but now: bye!
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00:40:01[Saint]Raaa works as expected here.
00:40:14*[Saint] blames Sony
00:40:23[Saint]...much easier.
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02:14:25Miryey another error on my clip
02:14:27Mir:D
02:15:01Mir7Data Abort
02:15:15Mir7at 3003671c
02:15:36Mir2FSR 0x8
02:15:52Mir2(domain 0, fault 8)
02:16:24Mir2adress 0x6E696D65
02:16:39Mirthats exatly how it looks on my screen colors and all
02:16:52funman:)
02:16:56Mirnow i have to wait for the battery to die
02:17:03funmanno just press a button
02:17:05Mirfor it wont power down
02:17:12Mirit wont respond
02:17:50funmandid you build it yourself?
02:17:54Mirnope
02:18:12Mirwow
02:18:13funmanwhich revision?
02:18:18Mirthe battery just died :D
02:18:22Mirwhat a miracle
02:18:33Miri belive i updated to 3.10
02:18:35Mirstable
02:18:42funmanah
02:19:04Mirand this is on the Clip V1 if i remember corectly
02:19:47funmandoing what?
02:20:15Miri was playing a mp3 song i pirated... i mean bought quite legitmatly :)
02:20:55Mirmp3 @ 128kb/s
02:21:01Mirhappens on flac too
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02:26:52Mirhow i look when my mp3 player dies like that http://troll.me/images/y-u-no/y-u-no-work.jpg
02:27:04Mir~-0
02:27:07[Saint]The Clip(s) still have a physical power button, correct?
02:27:18Mirmine has a switch
02:27:18[Saint]I forget, and mine is...somewhere.
02:27:33Mirat least the old clip
02:27:42[Saint]Right, in future "long power" should force a reset.
02:27:55Mirit should
02:28:02[Saint]No need to wait for a battery to die on a panic.
02:28:08funman[Saint]: in future?
02:28:09Kiwi_CAMHey Folks. Happy New Year. Are we having issues with the Forum at the moment? I'm seeing lots of N/A's on the front page and I've received a few emails saying posts have been made but I can't see those posts in the forum.
02:28:10Mirbut i could hold it for 4 hours and it wont do anything
02:28:28[Saint]funman: "if it happens again", rather.
02:28:52Mir[Saint]: :|
02:28:58Miri dont get you
02:29:01Kiwi_CAM[Saint]: Doesn't a "long power" do that already on the Clip? Mine does.
02:29:11Miryea
02:29:16Mirits "suppose to"
02:29:18[Saint]Yes...that's what I was saying.
02:29:23[Saint]Poor wording.
02:29:37Mirbut as i stated on my clip v1 when it crashes it becomes uber unresponsive
02:30:03Kiwi_CAMI'm so pleased that the Alarm works now on the Clip. I can go to sleep and wake up with it. Sweet.
02:30:10Mir:3
02:30:18[Saint]Afaik that's a hardware thing...so it should always work. Like the ipods.
02:30:26[Saint]Happy to be corrected.
02:30:37Miri am contemplating buying a clip zip
02:30:45Mirbut i love my c240 too much
02:31:00Mirthe battery life is 2X the life on the clip(s)
02:31:29Mir27 hours verses 12.5 hours
02:32:11Mir15 verses 6.5 with FLACy goodness
02:32:13funmanMir: your clipv1 is 12.5 hours? Oo
02:32:24Miron a good day
02:32:29Mirwell
02:32:30Mirno
02:32:35Mirold clip is old
02:32:40[Saint]You should be getting more than that...depending on usage of course, and battery age.
02:32:56[Saint]The clip should well exceed that.
02:32:56*Mir points out the nice screwdriver marks from when it was opened
02:33:12Mirold clip is old
02:33:57Mirthe clip wasnt new when i bought it (unlike the Clip+ or the 3 C240's or the ZEN VM or Express)
02:35:12Mir[Saint]: on my c240 with rockbox i can sometimes get 32 hours of life out of it :3 and did i mention the battery is user replaceable :D
02:36:05funman[Saint]: no way it could exceed that
02:36:50[Saint]funman: don't the clip(s) get into the twenties?
02:36:51funman[Saint]: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaRuntime maximum runtime ever reported is 11h
02:37:00funmanwith OF, probably
02:37:33[Saint]I thought we had better runtime on these players?
02:37:44[Saint]Wow...what am I thinking of?
02:38:01funmanclipv2
02:38:17[Saint]Ah...that's the one.
02:39:09[Saint]And no one knows why the v1 sucks in comparison despite a reasonably similar setup do that?
02:39:22[Saint]*they
02:40:23funmanif one knew you're sure it would have been fixed since a long time :'(
02:42:53[Saint]Well ...knowing why something happens and being able to remedy it don't necessarily go hand in hand, but yes. I see your point.
02:43:43funmanat least I, saratoga, bertrik, probably kugel and other people looked at it but we find not a single clue
02:44:01funmanwe made improvements though, but are still way behind the OF in term of power consumption
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02:45:09Mirfunman: 15 hours on the Clip+ with OF
02:45:15Miri can vouch for that
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02:45:27funmanMir: and with rockbox, using the same music?
02:45:46Mirhavent put rockbox on the clip+
02:45:53Mirdont see a point yet
02:46:09funmanah clip+
02:46:46[Saint]Its not the OF, what more reason does one need? :)
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03:06:45saratogabluebrother: is it feasible to do an rbutil release soon or are you waiting on something?
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04:14:46itoikenzaIs there a setting that makes rockbox play looped instrumentals smoother?
04:14:58Kiwi_CAMForum issue. I'm now seeing recent posts on the front page http://i.imgur.com/nz7GG.png but no posts showing. Has anyone else been having trouble with seeing posts on the forum?
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04:26:01saratogaKiwi_CAM: thats because the spam filter marked them as hidden
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06:38:05tdog97hey i got a question r u ever going to port rockbox to the ipo or iphone?
06:38:37tdog97ipod touch opps
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07:41:22evilwombatGreetings. Is v5 the latest version of the H300 bootloader?
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11:47:38webguest345hi, I am having a little trouble with my Sansa Clip v2, installing RockBox worked without problems and I used it for several weeks without any complaints
11:48:36webguest345now I tried to load new music onto it, at first my PC didn't recognize it for whatever reason, so I turned the Sansa off, disconnected it and reconnected it
11:49:23webguest345and now it won't turn on anymore, neither when connected to the PC/AC adapter, nor when pressing "on"
11:50:31webguest345Is this a known side effect of RockBox? I only found that flashing can cause trouble, so I guess I'm dealing with hardware failure
11:51:05webguest345but I thought I'll ask before I go out to buy a new player
11:51:23topikdid you try holdig the power button for a longer time?
11:51:31topik30 seconds or longer?
11:51:59CIA-88New commit by 03bluebrother (r31584): Rockbox Utility: add missing folder to deployment script.
11:52:09webguest345hmm, I guess not, I'll try it
11:52:20webguest345I only held it for around 10 seconds up to now
11:53:05webguest345ok, that worked
11:53:19topikhurrah
11:53:29webguest345Now that you wrote it, I faintly remember reading something like that
11:53:46webguest345thanks you very much
11:54:17CIA-88r31584 build result: All green
11:54:17webguest345problems like this are my favorite, solved in about thirty seconds ;)
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12:01:57webguest345thanks again, bye
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12:05:04*[Saint] can't seem to find any other application that is capable of ramping the CPU up to 100% usage simply from touching the screen
12:05:57[Saint]I'm probably thinking about it too much, almost definitely, but now I've noticed it its bugging the crap out of me.
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12:07:29[Saint]When I get a chance I'll have a play with capping the refresh rate, and see how low I can get it without any perceivable difference.
12:07:48[Saint]*visual difference
12:08:34[Saint]Iirc, peak meters refresh at 25fps, that seems to be fine for them.
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13:56:25impaktorIn Linux I cant see my Sansa Clip+ when using rockbox. I always have to boot into the original firmware to have it show up on my computer, and then it always creates stupid folders like "audible" "audiobooks" etc. Is this normal? I.e. that when running rockbox the device doesn't show up on the computer.
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14:01:04[Saint]No, that's not normal.
14:01:56[Saint]The creation of those folders is, though.
14:02:02gevaertsuhm, yes it is
14:02:11[Saint]They will be created whenever the OF boots.
14:02:27gevaerts3.10 doesn't have USB support for the clip+
14:02:59[Saint]gevaerts: doesn't it boot the of though?
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14:04:28[Saint]I didn't think one had to boot to the of manually...
14:05:04pixelmafrom an off state though, as automatic reboot could cause weird side effects
14:05:30topikolder amsv2 bootloader boots rockbox, not of
14:05:30pixelmahanging in a way that only letting the battery run down helped, IIRC
14:05:32[Saint]Ah. My mistake.
14:05:55topikwhen plugging in usb
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14:15:40impaktorSo to copy files I must let the OF load?
14:16:22[Saint]Or plug the device while powered off.
14:17:10[Saint]I'm not sure if USB has made it into current builds for this device yet or not.
14:17:17impaktorYes, that's how I must do now, and then it loads the OF, which sucks so bad, it's not even funny.
14:17:48impaktorBig thanks to all who contribute to the RockBox community!
14:18:42[Saint]There's a slight feeling in the back of my mind that makes me want to say USB is working in current builds...but I'm not positive.
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14:22:12topikusb is working great for amsv2 like clip+ in the current rockbox builds
14:22:48[Saint]There we go...
14:22:55[Saint]:)
14:23:42impaktortopik: I updated to rockbox 3.10, but USB is no show. (I connect the player while on and running rockbox, to prevent the OF from loading, but it won't show up.)
14:24:33topik3.10 is not 'current'
14:24:35[Saint]3.10 is a release build, we mean the current, per commit builds.
14:26:21topikcurrent you get from the 'current build' on the rockbox site but i suppose it means manual install (unzipping)
14:26:48[Saint]Rbutil can install it also.
14:27:35topikthat's better
14:28:34[Saint]Hmmm...possibly not the release rbutil, though. Not sure.
14:29:11topiki'd go here: http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum/showthread.php?t=53702
14:30:30[Saint]topik: except that no support could be offered for that "officially".
14:32:03topikyes, agreed. but there's still no official way to get the current bootloader i think
14:32:43topikand that one has the 'normal' rockbox usb plugging behaviour
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14:38:39impaktorBut then the current build will eventually make it into the release build?
14:39:08topikeventually it will become a release
14:39:18[Saint]In approximately 3 months, sure.
14:39:43topikthere's no real difference but time
14:39:51[Saint]Rather, releases are approximately at 3 month intervals.
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14:40:10*[Saint] is poor at wording things today.
14:41:48impaktorHmm, so the USB support for clip+ was added to current build after the latest release build (3.10, December 2011)?
14:42:04impaktor(or excluded from it)
14:42:19[Saint]Added after.
14:43:53impaktorWhen I download the "current build" will this also update the bootloader?
14:47:05topikno
14:47:22GodEater_definitely not
14:47:26topikthat's why i pasted that link
14:48:03impaktorOK, sorry, and thanks.
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15:38:35jlbiasinihello! what is IRIVER_H10_5GB? I can find a few #ifdef / #if defined IRIVER_H10_5GB in the code but not a single #define IRIVER_H10_5GB!!??
15:39:32jlbiasiniis it some obsolet target?
15:39:40gevaertsjlbiasini: that's the target type. It's set by configure and the makefiles
15:39:50gevaertsIt's the 5GB H10
15:41:06jlbiasiniI did grep -R "IRIVER_H10_5GB" ./ | grep define into rockbox directory, there are no define at all in the code
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15:41:23gevaertsthat's what I said, yes
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15:42:06gevaertsIt's set with "-DIRIVER_H10_5GB" in the makefile in the build directory, which is written by tools/configure
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15:42:52jlbiasiniok now I understand thanks!
15:43:54jlbiasiniPLA doesn't handle it! It has a specific keymaps in some plugin (direction keymaps... quite important) but nothing in PLA!! :)
15:44:18*jlbiasini will his whole life on keymaps!! :((
15:44:29jlbiasini*spend
15:44:35gevaertsWhy would it? The H10/5 uses IRIVER_H10_PAD
15:44:39MisanthroposI get "Error accessing playlist control file" on clip+ with r31587 occasionally, even if just scrolling menus up and down... and if I try to save a new playlist its default starts with: /./Playlists
15:44:52Misanthroposwhich does not work... /Playlists is correct
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15:45:24gevaertsMisanthropos: that's a known bug, but it's unrelated to the playlist control file
15:45:34Misanthroposok - thx
15:46:35jlbiasiniyes but if you look into pacman plugins you will see that there is a condition on keymap: left and righ are not the same for IRIVER_H10 and IRIVER_H10_5GB
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15:48:53jlbiasinigevaerts: https://gist.github.com/1565553
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15:49:52gevaertsLooks like one of them is played with the thing rotated
15:50:04gevaertsScreen resolution isn't the same
15:50:32jlbiasiniso should I add it to PLA?
15:54:04*gevaerts suspects jlbiasini will soon understand exactly why PLA was given up as a general purpose solution for all plugins
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16:04:23jlbiasiniActually I'm starting to!! Even select key cannot get used properly through pacmam... But well direction key are already fine. I think I will jest let the special mapping on iriver 5GB as exception for all other devices there seems to be no difference
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16:40:33Brijesh__hi
16:41:39Brijesh__Hi anybody have idea about standalone audio library development project
16:50:12Brijesh__what's rockbox
16:50:15Brijesh__??
16:51:35gevaertssee http://www.rockbox.org/
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18:03:28jlbiasinifor which device is IAUDIO67_PAD set? cowon iaudio7?
18:04:26jlbiasiniok this is it
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18:44:06bluebrotherjlbiasini: care to give mkimxboot support in Rockbox Utility a try?
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21:06:45funmanjlbiasini: what's your email client? i can't tell what is your reply and what is kugel's one
21:14:14bluebrother^looks like Thunderbird with HTML enabled :o
21:15:00n1syeah it's a html mail
21:15:32bluebrother^I'm really wondering why those guys enable HTML by default. And especially not ask about it in the account setting wizard
21:16:13n1sbecause normal users want it i guess
21:17:08bluebrother^well, the wizard could ask so people are (a) aware of it and (b) can turn it off during setup
21:17:20bluebrother^that should at least improve the situation
21:18:02n1syou expect people to understand the implications?
21:18:24bluebrother^I expect it to be possible describing it in 2 sentences :)
21:20:26bluebrother^"Use advanced formatting in mails? With advanced formatting you can change font size and color and various other options. Not all mail clients will display it properly. If you have problems you can turn it off in Accounts / ... or disable it for individual recepients."
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22:03:33bluebrother^funman: I can reproduce the mkamsboot issue. Seems to be related on how libucl.a is built.
22:03:37bluebrother^I'll look into it.
22:07:21bluebrother^does XCode 4 include support for 10.5 or is it 10.6+ only?
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22:10:57jlbiasinifunman: icedove
22:13:11bluebrother^jlbiasini: can you please disable HTML mails to the list? Not all people like them (or have them show up correctly without additional work)
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22:13:59jlbiasinibluebrother^: ok
22:14:21jlbiasini bluebrother^: I tested rockbox utility
22:14:31jlbiasinibut still nothing on the server
22:14:40kugelpjlbiasini: You can mostly ignore the iaudio 7 its a dead port
22:14:55jlbiasiniYeah I saw
22:15:12jlbiasiniI'm rewriting pacbox to have PLA support
22:16:10bluebrother^jlbiasini: sure, since nobody put the file on the server :)
22:16:25jlbiasiniwhat is exactly needed to have PLA compiled with a plugin? I don't get any error but the key doesn't work in pacbox
22:16:37jlbiasinibluebrother^: so what can I test actually?
22:17:01bluebrother^though I was more interested in the general behaviour. Your change to use the dropbox files works fine though (but for obvious reasons isn't in svn)
22:17:31*jlbiasini already forgot his own hack
22:18:16bluebrother^:)
22:19:37jlbiasiniThe thing with the temp file was I didn't find a method to retrieve its filepath... somehow .filename() didn't work which is why I was going into this patchedFile
22:21:25bluebrother^doesn't matter anymore if current svn works fine for you ;-)
22:23:39CIA-88New commit by 03bluebrother (r31585): Fix building mkamsboot on OS X. ...
22:23:57jlbiasiniany Idea about this PLA? I must be missing some makefile or something?
22:24:58n1severy plugin is linked against the plugin lib, you'd get undefined symbol errors if you tried to use things the linker can't find if they were missing
22:25:57CIA-88r31585 build result: All green
22:25:58jlbiasinibluebrother^: it works!
22:26:43jlbiasinin1s: ok thanks, this basicly means that I must be missing something else...
22:27:49n1sjlbiasini: the obvious hint is to look at what other plugins using it do and perhaps at the changeset introducing it in them
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22:34:47jlbiasinin1s: yes but actually I noticed that after compilation if i do some: grep -R "pluginlib_actions" ./ from within the plugins directory I get a line like that for each plugin that used PLA: ./.svn/text-base/pitch_detector.c.svn-base:#include "lib/pluginlib_actions.h" but nothing like that for Pacbox...
22:39:03n1sjlbiasini: you should get warnings about calling implicitley defined functions if you called pluginlib_getaction without the prototype
22:39:51jlbiasinino warning nothing just fine but not working! :D
22:41:06n1syou *are* calling pluginlib_getaction though?
22:42:01jlbiasiniarf there seems to be a trick in this question! :D
22:43:07jlbiasiniI've put the include pointing to the lib header in the pacbox.c file. I use the PLA_UP etc in the pacbox.h but that's all I do
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22:46:25jlbiasiniArf I thought it was just a matter of changing a few keymaps!! there is more code to rewrite than I thought
22:46:44n1sthe enum returned by pluginlib_getaction is not a button code so that will not work
22:46:59bluebrother^hmpf. Why does putting $(DEPFILE) as prerequisite for the generic %.o rule not work?
22:47:28bluebrother^as in: why does make try to run the wrong rule for that? There _is_ a rule!
22:51:19jlbiasinin1s: you mean that I cannot use pacbox through PLA even if I use this pluginlib_getaction fontion?
22:51:26jlbiasini*fonction
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22:52:33n1sno, i meant you can't just #define the buttons to the PLA enums as the defines are not used with the pluginlib_getaction function
22:53:06jlbiasiniGood I was about to cry!!! :D
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22:54:56n1si imagine there must be a simpler plugin to start with than pacbox though
22:56:14jlbiasiniit depend on which side of the difficulty you look for: packbox need very few key
22:56:49jlbiasiniand always the same: direction, select to start, quit for menu
22:57:13jlbiasinibut I guess you are right anyway!
22:57:20kugelpjlbiasini: I suggest starting with lamp. It's small and has little actions
22:57:40kugelpjust two I think
22:58:06kugelpor rockblox1d. only quit
22:58:21jlbiasinitoo late I already started!!! :D I started with rockblox actually but getting consistent keymaps was a hell!
22:58:48jlbiasinikugelp: right not so bad! And I'm a big fan of it?
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22:59:13jlbiasiniThis is a private joke plugin or something like that right?
22:59:38kugelpIt's not private :-)
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23:00:56jlbiasiniwell it is a bit esoric to me, first I though wow this is totally stupid! Then I red the manual: WOW this is meant to be so! :)
23:02:30kugelpits pretty pointless and even buggy
23:03:16kugelpyou don't start at 0 points
23:03:21kugelpits more of a demo than a game
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23:15:33KishkaCan anyone please direct me to the files to modify to reverse the boot order on AMSv2 targets such as the Clip+ in order to boot the OF first.
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23:18:36bluebrother^hello.
23:21:07funmanbluebrother^: iiuc xcode 4 is 10.6+ only
23:21:42funmanyou've got to take 10.5 SDK from xcode 3 (like 10.4)
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23:22:50saratoga_Kishka: you need to modify mkamsboot, its in \rbutil
23:23:05KL1Pis anyone have clicking noise while recording voice or listening to radio on an sansa clip+ ? sounds like some kind of interference ...
23:24:42saratoga_KL1P: IIRC something like that was recently fixed, what build are you running?
23:24:56KL1P310
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23:25:28saratoga_update, i bet the problem goes away
23:25:55KL1Pok, i'll try right now
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23:26:37bluebrother^funman: ok, then I guess I need to do some further adjustments. Building with XCode 3 should work again now though.
23:27:21CIA-88r31586 build result: All green
23:28:33Kishkasaratoga_: Can you please be a little more specific. I am not that much of a programmer.
23:28:47saratoga_Kishka: you probably should not attempt this then
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23:30:26Kishkasaratoga_: Thank you anyway.
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23:40:05KL1Pwith the latest build i have the same clicking sound for the radio but discovered a possible bug when i tried to record a voice file, it couldn't save because of a "full disk", which is not true.
23:40:30saratoga_check the file system for errors
23:41:02KL1Phow do you do that ?
23:41:57KL1Pwith windows standard file check ?
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23:44:09n1sKL1P: yes
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23:45:32KL1Pno problems found
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23:46:41saratoga_strange that updating didn't help, this problem was reported fixed by several people
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23:48:25max131anyone around with a fuzev2 running current?
23:48:39KL1Pthe clicking is not consistent, it's based on location and the way you hold the device. The original firmware has no such issue ...
23:49:55max131when connecting the fuzev2 to my laptop when running linux all is fine ...
23:50:22max131but when connection it to the same laptop running Windows 7 it is not really working
23:51:51max131it takes ages before it detects 2 removable disks,and double clicking to see the contents also takes ages
23:51:57saratoga_did USB used to work with that computer?
23:52:30max131yes it did, more or less, meaning i had to try a few times, but once succesfully connected, it did work fine
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23:52:56saratoga_usb was like that until some recent fixes corrected it
23:53:01max131i mean, try a connecting disconnecting cycle
23:53:14saratoga_i don't suppose you have any idea which commit caused usb to stop working on your player?
23:53:31max131not at all, unfortunately
23:54:08 Quit amithkk (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
23:55:05max131i saw on the MajorChanges that usb got enabled for the AMSv2
23:55:07funmani think [7] has pending work on thos
23:55:16max131so i took the plunge ...
23:55:44 Quit benedikt93 (Quit: Bye ;))
23:56:03max131i tried rolling back to older versions i still have lying around, but non of them seems to be working anymore
23:56:26max131i think it might have to do with the fact that also the bootloader got changed
23:57:00max131and i can not find back what the original bootloader i was using
23:57:14saratoga_max131: the bootloader changes just add bootloader USB mode
23:57:34saratoga_if you don't plug in USB before rockbox is booted, they won't matter
23:58:06max131do you mean the OF is not booted anymore?
23:58:27saratoga_the mkamsboot changes also prevent that, yes
23:58:43 Join megal0maniac [0] (~29f37a0c@www.haxx.se)
23:58:55KL1Pswitched back to 3.10 and voice recorder could save the file just fine...

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