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#rockbox log for 2012-01-12

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07:33:17davoi've successfully installed rockbox on a sansa fuze a few weeks ago, when initially dict and text_editor worked (which technically they still work), but are now showing 'garbage' or unreadable fonts/characters. i've tried reinstalling rockbox and changing the page code setting to different locales, but still unable to get usable characters in the dict app. any idea what i've done wrong?
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07:58:02[Saint]davo: Give me a few minutes to update my build, and I'll see what I see here.
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08:42:14kugelpif I do "stmdb sp!, {r0,r4-r11,lr}", how do I access r0 afterwards?
08:44:17kugelpI though it would be "ldr [sp, #36]" but appears to be "ldr [sp, #0]"
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08:47:41davo[Saint, ok thanks, no rush, i'll be here
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09:12:50ukleinekkugel: yes, that's correct
09:13:08ukleinekdb in stmdb means that the stack is decreasing (decrease before)
09:13:33ukleinekthat is if sp is 0x100 before the instruction, lr lands at 0xfc
09:14:08ukleinekand the lower registers end in the lower addressed space
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09:17:42[Saint]davo: Anything specific I should know?
09:18:12[Saint]font, theme (shouldn't make a difference), build revision?
09:18:29davowell, perhaps that i'm a newbie to rockbox, and not to fluent with locales and configs, etc
09:18:55davooh, that..yes, sorry, one sec let me get those for you
09:19:23[Saint]davo: On a "clean" build, with my dict.desc and dict.index files...all is well.
09:21:01kugelukleinek: so it writes the regs in the opposite order?
09:22:02davoin the player, under Rockbox info, it shows Version 3.10, as for font, seems i last set it to 12 - Adobe Helvetica, and not sure which theme i'm using
09:22:09davo[Saint]: ^^
09:25:15davois there perhaps a 'Reset All Defaults' ?
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09:25:43davoah in fact there is under 'Manage Settings'..will see if that makes a difference
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09:26:15[Saint]afaik there's no config setting that can affect this plugin
09:26:54davoin fact, Resetting the Settings worked :]
09:27:02davostrange
09:27:07davobut thankful
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09:27:14[Saint]Bugger it...
09:27:30davojust not sure what setting I had made that borked it up
09:27:41[Saint]I mean, that's great...but I now wish I asked you to backup your config.cfg
09:28:11[Saint]As, there's no setting that could warp this plugin. It very much falls into "bug-land".
09:28:27davoyeah, perhaps that would have been interesting to review and see what i had done wrong
09:29:18[Saint]Very occasionally, updating builds (especially between releases) seems to cause an issue where a seemingly perfectly valid config.cfg can make "Very Weird Things" (TM) happen.
09:29:30davoit also falls very much into my being a complete newb with rockbox and config'ing it
09:30:03[Saint]I don't think you did anything "wrong". If its what I'm thinking, its a rare, near impossible to catch bug.
09:30:28[Saint]There's no "screw up my plugins" setting :)
09:31:01davoi don't recall if it happened between reinstalls, but after the first successful install i do recall experimenting with as much as i could and somewhere along the way i noticed the dict app display was scrambled and illegible
09:31:40davobut it wasn't all plug-ins that were 'screwed up' it was just the dict display, everything else seemed to work fine
09:33:13[Saint]Well...I'll say this much. If there *is* a config setting that could warp the dict display...it would be a bug. I'm thinking its the weird, longstanding, and very very rare bug we've seen before with config files.
09:34:01[Saint]Sometimes it manifests itself as a playmode setting going haywire, despite a perfectly valid config.
09:35:22[Saint]If it is what I'm thinking...I haven't seen it in a while. But I honestly cannot think of any one setting that could have this effect, the problem you described.
09:36:08davounder 'Browse .cfg Files' I see 'config' and 'InAWhisper'..neither of those are relevant?
09:37:00davoI'm pretty sure it might be that I didn't describe the problem well enough
09:37:32[Saint]"InAWhisper" is nothing of ours.
09:37:54[Saint]It may be that your filesystem is corrupt.
09:38:11davoi'm just glad to find a way to get it back to a useable app that i can install a dict and see if it works
09:38:56davocan i view the 'InAWhisper' file, or send it to you somehow if it would help?
09:39:06[Saint]I have current dict.desc/index files compiled here: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/30204410/Rockbox%20Dict%20Files.zip
09:39:13davootherwise i consider it resolved
09:39:46davooh great, thanks, i'll take a look and see if i can get it working
09:41:01[Saint]you could try upload the "InAWhisper" file to a hosting servi type of file it is.ce, it may be useful. Firstly, I'd like you to look at this file in your PC/Laptop/Whatever's file browser and tell me what
09:41:57[Saint]you could try upload the "InAWhisper" file to a hosting service...<snip>...and tell me what type of file it is
09:43:16[Saint]Unless you specifically saved a configuration with that exact name, this file has no business being there.
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09:44:24[Saint]And this, coupled with your earlier report, makes me think your filesystem may be damaged (which we can take care of, if this is the case)
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09:47:21[Saint]davo: Regarding dict.rock, the files dict.desc and dict.index I linked above (contained in the .zip file) are to be placed in "/.rockbox/rocks/apps/", after this the dict.rock plugin will "just work".
09:50:18rgtypecan rockbox automatically change RG type from "Album" to "Track" mode if the folder/album is flagged or tagged appropiately
09:51:41[Saint]rgtype: No.
09:54:36rgtypehmm, shame it doesn't. It would be great to have RG type in the metadata and then have RG automatically change accordingly
09:55:04[Saint]How would that even work?
09:55:20[Saint]That would only work if you only ever played full albums.
09:55:55[Saint]It would break if you played from a mixed playlist would it not?
09:56:19rgtypeadd album or Track type to the matadata, when that album is loaded for playback the metadata is read and then RG is notified to apply the applicable RG mode
09:56:52[Saint]see above regarding mixed playlists.
09:59:31rgtypeif a entire album is loaded into a playlist it can still scan for selected RG type, if the playlist is shuffled then the golbal RG setting "Track mode if shuffled" will override album specific setting
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10:00:09rgtypegolbal=global
10:02:11[Saint]Well..."track mode if shuffled" is essentially what you're looking for more or less. Unless Im missunderstanding the use case. It assumes album mode unless shuffled.
10:05:11[Saint]If I am indeed missunderstanding your intended use case, by all means, help me to see what it is you'd like to achieve.
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10:10:41[Saint]JdGordon: Did you ever look at getting piezo keyclick on the ipods to stop at the end of a list?
10:11:45[Saint]I think it'd be nice if it respected the keyclick repeat settign.
10:11:58[Saint]*setting
10:13:28JdGordonnope
10:14:56rgtypecurrently RG mode can only be changed manualyy, i.e. Album mode, Track mode, Track if shuffled. If RG playback is set to Album mode and I load a various compilation I have to manually go and change RG to tack mode. I would like for RG mode to change automatically in that scenario
10:16:54[Saint]If its set to album mode, and you play an album of various artists (assuming its not user compiled), and you need to manually fix up the RG...doesn't that mean your RG data is wrong?
10:18:02rgtypeNO. I have tons of self compiled various albums which I play back with Track RG, I also have artistically intact albums which I playback in Album mode
10:18:12rgtypesorry for the big caps
10:19:30[Saint]right...thats why I added "assuming its not user compiled", as that totally breaks this.
10:22:04JdGordon[Saint]: hmm...
10:22:35rgtypefeature request with bounty ^^ :-))
10:22:44JdGordonerrr... i have an idea how to fix this but not sure its really nice
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10:26:57JdGordonhmm...... why are we triggering the click before we know what action its going to do?
10:27:12JdGordonDoes anyone have any opions on the keyclick code?
10:27:21JdGordonI have a possibly not-clean idea to make it much nicer
10:29:47[Saint]rgtype: afaik there's no sane/standard way to implement replaygain (let alone replaygain type) in ID3...is there?
10:30:33[Saint]Perhaps mp3gain is your friend instead.
10:31:31davo[Saint]: I downloaded and extracted the zip file you referred and dropped the two dict files into .rockbox/rocks/apps, rebooted the player, started the dict app, but upon pressing the >|| play button, says "Not Found."
10:32:18davomost likely i just need to read more of the documentation and improve my understanding
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10:32:41[Saint]davo: Right...I wouldn't say its going out on a limb here to say that your filesystem is toast.
10:33:10[Saint]What operating system are you using?
10:33:12davoeek, sounds like a very likely case
10:33:21davoOS on my laptop here?
10:33:27davolinux
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10:34:17davoi'll consider a last resort backing up the player data and formatting, reinstalling
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10:36:41[Saint]davo: fsck.vfat -v /path/to/disk
10:36:57davok, thanks, i'll backup and do that
10:37:26[Saint]No need to backup for that, it won't write anything to disk
10:39:07[Saint]Its only checking the filesystem, and reporting (in a more verbose than normal way). *If* it detects filesystem errors, then we'll look at doing something about it.
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10:41:40[Saint]JdGordon: What's your thinking on keyclick?
10:43:45JdGordonits a bit nasty but ill going to register a callback and do the click a bit later than it is currently
10:44:09JdGordonit shold be pretty simple to make work
10:52:02[Saint]davo: How did you get on with fsck.vfta?
10:52:13[Saint]*fsck.vfat
10:52:21lorenzo92kugel: today I've sent again to samsung my request for si470x module header(s)...let's hope in that :)
10:52:56[Saint]lorenzo92: Good luck :)
10:52:58davooh cool, didn't want to disturb you but i wanted to ask if you know maybe why i dont' have fsck.vfat
10:53:17davoseems i only have fsck fsck.ext2 fsck.ext4 fsck.minix fsck.cramfs fsck.ext3 fsck.ext4dev
10:53:37davomaybe i can pass a parameter to fsck
10:53:50lorenzo92davo: distro?
10:53:57davogentoo
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10:54:40*[Saint] thought fsck.vfat was a standard linux tool...
10:54:54davoyeah me too
10:55:00lorenzo92yeah, probably you need to install *dosfstools* package
10:55:10davooh you know, maybe it's something i didn't set in my kernel?
10:55:49davohm, perhaps what lorenzo is suggesting, i'll check that
10:56:18[Saint]its in the package dosfstools
10:56:29davowell, looks likely, since my system shows i don't have the dosfstools package installed
10:56:32davothanks
10:56:35[Saint]oh...whoops, look at the screen more often Hayden...:P
10:56:46lorenzo92davo: ;)
10:57:06davoheh
10:58:33davoi'm rusty, do i need the disk mounted first?
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11:00:04davoeek, dumb question, i think i figured that one out
11:00:33davoheh, got it
11:00:58davogives, "FATs differ but appear to be intact. Use which FAT ?"
11:01:19lorenzo92definitely, some fs problem
11:01:28davohmm
11:01:49davowell, whatever happens, at least i can still enjoy the other apps and music/videos :)
11:02:03lorenzo92you *should* do a fsck.vfat blabla -a -w to repair it but wait for Saint...
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11:02:42davoah ok
11:03:00davoi definitely trust your thoughts more than my own :]
11:03:51davoas per the 1) use first FAT, or 2) Use second FAT, should i cancel?
11:04:26davoi think this might be way too off-topic for this channel. should i get this done elsewhere then come back?
11:04:36[Saint]lorenzo92 is quite right, "fsck.vfat -a -v -w"
11:04:49davok
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11:05:25davohm, ran seemingly smooth
11:05:33davoReclaiming unconnected clusters, Unable to create unique name
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11:05:56davowith other info seems standard output
11:06:02[Saint]-v isn't needed, just gives a verbose output. Its just saying "Check for corruption, fix it immediately, write changes to disk immediately...and tell me everything you can about what you're doing"
11:06:18davoexactly
11:06:25davowhich seems like it worked
11:06:41davono idea about any repair, but shall find out
11:06:56davodo a reinstall and see?
11:07:27davoand perhaps format first?
11:07:59[Saint]There's no need to format, this is what we just (hopefully) avoided.
11:08:27davooh, by the way [Saint], the InAWhisper.cfg was a 1 Byte file saved from one of the themes
11:10:04[Saint]davo: It shouldn't have been in Setrtings - Manage Settings - Browse .cfg Files
11:10:11[Saint]*Settings
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11:10:52davoah, which is another reason to suggest the file system was messsing up
11:11:03[Saint]Yep.
11:11:29davowell i removed most of the data expecting to do a format, so i'll need to reinstall rockbox and test it again to see the results
11:12:06davoso when i get that done i'll let you know the results
11:12:21davothanks very much for both your help
11:12:28gevaertsThe in a whisper theme is buggy
11:12:42gevaertsIt puts its cfg file in the wrong place
11:13:49[Saint]gevaerts: Good to know...also, very, very *very* weird..
11:14:46[Saint]gevaerts: Is this bug logged?
11:15:12gevaertslogged?
11:15:24[Saint]s/logged/tracked/
11:16:02gevaertsIf theme authors want bug trackers, they're free to set those up and link to them from the theme description :)
11:16:24*gevaerts has now hidden the theme with an appropriate message. IHRC that should notify the author
11:16:40Zagorshould we have something like http://git.gnome.org/browse/gitadmin-bin/tree/pre-receive-check-policy to help avoid common git mistakes?
11:16:54[Saint]Its hardly just a theme bug...checkwps allowed it, so it parsed and all was in the correct location.\
11:17:11[Saint]It wouldn't have been uploaded if this wasn't the case.
11:17:20gevaerts[Saint]: checkwps, unsurprisingly, checks the wps
11:17:44[Saint]and it also makes sure all needed components are in place.
11:17:57[Saint]and warns of uneeded files.
11:18:07[Saint]*un-needed
11:18:17gevaertsthe theme site does this, yes, but not checkwps
11:18:31gevaertscheckwps doesn't care *at all* about the config file
11:20:13[Saint]Well...that's just a wording issue. Yes, I didn't choose my words correctly. My point is ultimately "If it got on the themesite, its technically perfectly valid and if its managing to slip its config.cfg into the wrong directory somehow I can't really see a way its theme theme's fault"
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11:21:26[Saint]If it is botched, and the themesite allowed it...that's probably easier to fix, but it shouldn't have happened.
11:21:30gevaertsIf a sanity checking tool doesn't spot an issue that issue is suddenly caused by the sanity checking tool?
11:22:40[Saint]...the fuck?
11:24:13gevaertsWell, that's what you seem to be saying
11:24:39gevaertsSure, the sanity checker could (and should) be better, but that doesn't mean the theme isn't buggy
11:24:55[Saint]If you say so. I'm giving up...I don't like talking to you when this happens.
11:25:22gevaerts"somehow I can't really see a way its theme theme's fault
11:25:51*gevaerts would also like to point out that it's not possible to select this theme inside rockbox, so it can't have been tested properly by its author
11:28:44JdGordonright, now im off the hpone.. whats this talk of broken themes?
11:28:56[Saint]I initially thought (and now know I'm mistaken) that it was managing to get its .cfg into a wrong dir *after* installation somehow. If its slipping into the themesite broken, then something happened reasonably recently to allow this as it never used to be possible.
11:30:09[Saint]The themesite was, and still should be perfectly capable of warning about this...and should never have allowed it.
11:30:36[Saint]The fact it did is, interesting.
11:30:46gevaertstrue
11:35:18gevaertsI don't see any code in the themesite that ever checked this. It just checks if there is exactly one config file
11:39:19JdGordon[Saint]: don't pretty much all lists wrap in rockbox?
11:39:28[Saint]I'm fairly confident it used to check the location of the .cfg, I'm likely misremembering this though...it seems a perfectly sane thing to check for if it can warn about un-needed/un-referenced files.
11:39:53[Saint]JdGordon: Far from it, why?
11:40:08[Saint]Wait...do they wrap, or *need* to wrap?
11:40:58JdGordonmaybe this isnt testable on the sim :/
11:41:13JdGordonffs yep
11:41:20JdGordongood thing I have my video available
11:41:56JdGordonbut no compilers installed :/
11:46:12[Saint]Hmmm...random thought. Even though this theme isn't putting its .cfg in the correct place, it still should be able to be launched iiuc.
11:46:31[Saint]I don't think theme theme actually cares where its .cfg is.
11:46:59[Saint](not the point though, I know)
11:47:02gevaertsThe theme doesn't care, but the theme chooser cares
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12:03:39JdGordoncrap, I don't tihnk there is going to be a simple way to make keyclick only happen when the button does something, not without touching every single button loop :/
12:11:39[Saint]well, thanks for trying.
12:12:11JdGordonwell, turns out im a dill...
12:12:19JdGordonbut we cant get 100% for sure to work
12:13:50JdGordonis one extra click acceptable at the end of lists?
12:14:14*JdGordon suggests 'yes'
12:26:31[Saint]1 is a lot better than 1 million
12:26:48*[Saint] summons a dev with a Nano2g
12:26:58JdGordonindeed, which is why im saying "bugger it" and commiting
12:27:15[Saint]Is it possible to do a bootloader release for the Nano2G?
12:27:50JdGordonlooks like pamuary doesnt have the gerrit hook installed... naughty naughty :)
12:28:15[Saint]Seems it never got renewed after adding the "press menu during boot to boot the OF"
12:28:29[Saint]it == N2g bootloader
12:29:32[Saint]shit...scrap that. Silly date format.
12:31:32JdGordonno cia-bot yet... oh well.. [Saint] fixed
12:32:19[Saint]Awesome. Does it respect keyclick repeats?
12:32:58JdGordonyes, basically i chucked a callback in after we've already decided to beep
12:33:01[Saint]My assumption is the the previous behaviour would be desirable if keyclick repeat was enabled.
12:33:18JdGordonoh, that one.. no, it doesnt
12:33:22JdGordonthats bloody stupid thouhg
12:33:32JdGordonthat setting is becoming increasingly stupid
12:34:09[Saint]Its apparently wanted, though?
12:34:26JdGordonit was there because the origional implementation sucked
12:34:30[Saint]By whom, I'm not sure...but it made it in there.
12:37:05JdGordonit is stil not ideal and I'm contemplating removing the generic click so it must be called manually when the screen wants it
12:37:12JdGordonbut for now I tihnk this is a big improvement
12:40:02[Saint]having it respect the keyclick repeat setting would be good, and if I remember correctly this was supposed to be a pre-requisite to FS #5111 being committed...but I agree this is an improvement.
12:40:03fs-bluebothttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5111 3Ipod piezo driver (patches, closed)
12:40:38JdGordonboth beep at the same time
12:40:53JdGordonyou wont get one without the other (if you're silly enough to enable both)
12:41:04[Saint]merging hardware and software keyclick completely would be the go.
12:41:42[Saint]"silly enough to enable both"?
12:41:54*[Saint] is apparently silly.
12:42:11JdGordoniirc the origional problem was that repeatt presses were just handled badly, so holding down a button would keep beeping which is really wierd, so i fixed that which made the setting almost useless
12:42:17JdGordonhello Mr. silly :)
12:42:41JdGordonanyway, yes, this latest patch should do what you want
12:44:48[Saint]I think its useful to have both, as if I have IEMs in I can't hear the piezo, and if I don't have IEMs in I can't hear the software keyclick.
12:45:14[Saint]But anyway, thanks...the repeat behaviour annoyed me no end.
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15:14:49dfktdo i have to delete my local (patched) svn tree in order to start using git, and redownload and patch again?
15:15:10gevaertsbasically, yes
15:15:20gevaertsWell, you don't have to delete it
15:15:38dfktbut git won't like the patches made to it, i assume?
15:20:22GodEater_on the bright side - "git clone" is, in my experience at least, considerably faster than an svn checkout
15:20:57dfktyes, i'm just experiencing the breeze from git clone :)
15:21:08GodEater_ruffles your hair a bit
15:24:58funmanZagor: that gnome script looks useful
15:25:16Zagoryes I thought so too
15:26:35gevaertsdfkt: yes, you can't "convert" a repository, but moving it aside for later reference is perfectly acceptable :)
15:26:46dfktah :)
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17:28:16zenlunaticim trying to understand why my device randomly started not showing files on rockbox, when theyre their when i mount it on my system
17:29:43Zagorzenlunatic: did you perhaps mistakenly change the "General->File view->Show files" setting?
17:30:54zenlunaticZagor, yes! thank you sir!
17:31:04Zagoryou're welcome
17:31:13zenlunatictime to donate
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19:07:11jlbiasinikugel: this should be ready now!
19:07:14jlbiasiniFS #12529
19:07:14fs-bluebothttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12529 3Lamp plugins PLA integration (patches, unconfirmed)
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19:43:19bluebrotherjlbiasini: not immediately, but eventually there won't be any patches on FS anymore. For that you create a review in gerrit (not functional yet, afaik)
19:44:06bluebrotherwow, that's a strange API. The function allocates a buffer and does return a pointer to it as return value, but the caller needs to provide a pointer to some value to write the length of that buffer to.
19:45:16bluebrotherand why on earth is Rockbox Utility crashing _after_ calling the DLL function?
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19:45:34GNU\colossushello everyone :)
19:45:56bluebrotherhi, I'm eliza. Please tell me your problem.
19:46:24GNU\colossusI just flashed rockbox onto my new and shiny Sansa portable, and I'm readying up to transfer some music to it. since I can't seem to reach rockbox.org right now, I decided to ask in here: what's the best method of storing my music files on the device?
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19:46:39GNU\colossus(like, what directory structure would you recommend, and why)
19:46:44bluebrotherany.
19:47:05GNU\colossusam I talking to an AI or an actual human being right now? ;)
19:47:14bluebrotherRockbox does not require any special structure. Use anything you like.
19:47:36GNU\colossusok, so "Artist/Album/" is as fine and dandy as any?
19:48:06bluebrotheryes.
19:48:22bluebrotherthe only thing we recommend it to *not* put any of your files below the .rockbox folder
19:48:23GNU\colossusam I free to rmdir the pre-created directories on my player? stuff like "AUDIBLE" or "PODCASTS"?
19:48:33GNU\colossusyeah, I already figured that was somewhat special ;)
19:48:34bluebrotheryes, but the OF might recreate those
19:48:43GNU\colossuswhat does OF stand for?
19:48:48bluebrotheroriginal firmware
19:48:49GNU\colossusoriginal firmware?
19:48:51GNU\colossusah yes
19:48:58GNU\colossusthanks for confirming, and for your advice :)
19:49:38bluebrotherwell, Rockbox works fine with your music below .rockbox. But this might cause hard to detect and impossible to fix user errors, so we generally recommend to not put anything below that folder
19:49:42bluebrotheryou're welcome
19:50:54GNU\colossusdoes rockbox support UTF-8 metadata(tags)? (I'll be using OGG Vorbis and MP3 files, with ID3v2.whatever...)
19:52:55bluebrotheryes.
19:53:03GNU\colossusawesome.
19:53:15bluebrotherit does even support doom :P
19:53:34GNU\colossusyeah, but I have my desktop for that anyways ;)
19:54:04*bluebrother thinks doom is useless on a DAP anyways
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20:33:13Lemminghey guys
20:33:31Lemmingany new builds for yp r0?
20:34:30lebelliumfor R0 builds, please see on ABI. Lorenzo regularly release new builds
20:35:11mir_thinkpadanyone here able to fix some sansas?
20:35:21mir_thinkpadmainly broken screens
20:36:07mir_thinkpadFuze and E200
20:36:41GNU\colossusfirst time playing with rockbox for half an hour by now - this stuff is AWESOME.
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20:39:23Lemmingthx lebellium)
20:39:31Lemmingbut there is no builds on ABI
20:39:46Lemmingno new builds*
20:40:23Lemmingso i decided to ask here)
20:40:30Lemminganyway thanks
20:40:30lebelliumLemming: latest compiled build: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/38710278/rockbox.zip
20:41:51lebelliumAnd of course there are builds on ABI. The link comes from there.
20:46:34Lemmingit seems newer than mine
20:47:07bertrikGNU\colossus, which sansa player do you have exactly?
20:47:59*bluebrother would like to see people line-breaking commit messages at 72 chars or so
20:48:01GNU\colossusbertrik, the Sansa Clip Plus
20:48:14bluebrotheras most commit message templates do
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20:49:21pixelmathat's only possible if you use(d) a text editor for the commit messages though, no?
20:50:16bluebrotheryes, but git by default invokes $EDITOR
20:50:20bluebrotherat least afaik
20:50:50bluebrothernice. I can't push because gerrit uses a different capitalization of the local part of my mail address :o
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20:52:39GNU\colossuslocal parts of rfc822 addresses may be case sensitive. I don#t know what gerrit is or does, but it seems to be doing so with attention to detail :)
20:52:59GNU\colossusah, a code review webapp. interesting.
20:54:16cliptesterhelp
20:54:18Tornebluebrother: gerrit uses whatever you told it :)
20:54:30Tornebluebrother: you can add any email address you control to your account
20:54:35Tornethen it'll accept it in commits
20:54:36pixelmabluebrother: not sure about commit messages but for e.g. mail I don't like other people's linebreaks forced on me as that breaks if I view it in some smaller window and stuff
20:54:42bluebrotherCIA doesn't announce git commit right now?
20:54:47bluebrotherTorne: I just did it that way :)
20:55:14Tornewraping git commit messages is the usual convention
20:55:25bluebrotherpixelma: well, 72 chars is somewhat standard. And your mail client can always rewrap it.
20:55:46bluebrotheras for git, the default pager doesn't rewrap, which makes reading long single-line commit messages a bit inconvenient
20:56:05bluebrother(IMO that's the fact for svn as well, though svn doesn't use a pager by default)
20:56:20bluebrotherand I really like the first-line-is-summary convention
20:56:23Tornehttp://tbaggery.com/2008/04/19/a-note-about-git-commit-messages.html <- this is the convention that most git projects use
20:58:50bluebrotherthat convention is quite useful even with svn. Since clients like TortoiseSVN show the first line in the commit log window :)
20:59:15Torneyes; i like it for everything :)
20:59:34bluebrotherI'd strongly vote for adopting that convention
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21:02:25bluebrotherwe had some discussion about commit messages on the ML in the past: http://www.rockbox.org/mail/archive/rockbox-dev-archive-2010-09/0069.shtml
21:03:52TorneThat was mostly abou thte content, no?
21:04:37bluebrotheryes.
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21:06:42cliptesteri lot of bugs were introduced in sandisk clip-plus since version 3.10 and on, currently as of svn version build #31646 and on the git versions since the mpeg player and pictureflow is not displaying fonts properly and chip8 viewer crashes and text viewer doesn't save bookmarks anymore. can someone fix these?
21:07:11Tornehave you filed bugs fo rthe issues explaining specifically what's wrong, how to reproruce, etc?
21:07:15Torneif not then probably not, no :)
21:08:03cliptesteri filed a bug report but since i"m new not sure if filed right.
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21:08:46funmanwhat is FS# ?
21:09:30funmani dont remember chip8 viewer, pictureflow, or text viewer changes since 3.10
21:10:09pixelmafont drawing changes in general maybe?
21:11:42cliptesterFS #12493 the bugs came in in between 3.9.1 and 3.10
21:11:44fs-bluebothttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12493 3problem with chip8 and mpeg player on clip+ (bugs, unconfirmed)
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21:12:43funmanit's incredibly concise
21:13:18gevaertscliptester: as a general rule, always report one single bug per bug report
21:13:18funmanit lacks at least: which game, which mpeg file, what you expect, what 3.9.1 shows, what current build shows, what is shown on screen
21:14:15cliptesteri tried taking a snapshot to upload but player crashes when i plugin the usb if screenshot is enabled
21:14:31Tornethat would be another bug to report
21:15:28gevaertsIf that was also before 3.10, it needs retesting. I increased the usb stack size just before 3.10 exactly to fix broken screenshots
21:15:43cliptestermpegplayer plays well but when i pause stop or change volume the fonts take up the whole screen instead of the small bar it used to show
21:17:18cliptesterchip8 loads the game files found on the wiki says file ok and then just blackens with only a reset boot in to OF to help
21:19:06cliptestertext viewer just stopped bookmarking or saving last location in file a little before 31646 not sure exactly when
21:23:24funmancliptester: please put that in respective tickets
21:24:05cliptesterseparate tickets for each?
21:24:26funmanyes please
21:26:57cliptesterok, is it possible to downgrade a version to 3.9.1 and then add the options i want like shortcuts
21:27:54bluebrotherif you want to backport the features, sure.
21:29:33cliptestercan you provide me with the process, i know how to compile a build
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21:32:56funmanno, we're only interested in fixing bugs in the latest release
21:38:52cliptesteri just tried screendump using version 5ef2736-120111 and it works!
21:39:16gevaertsThanks for confirming
21:42:43cliptestersorry still can't screenshoot in mpegplayer or pictureflow i get this message *panic* stkov usb
21:43:06gevaertshm, that's interesting...
21:48:14bluebrotherdoes mpegplayer actually support creating screenshots?
21:48:49gevaertsMaybe not, but pictureflow definitely should
21:49:02bluebrothermaybe I'm thinking too much greylib :)
21:49:05funmanno it doesn't
21:49:12bluebrotherbut the clip uses the greylib, doesn't it?
21:49:13funmanmight work on some models
21:49:16funmantrue
21:49:34funmanyellow-blue-lib to be exact ^_^
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21:50:02bluebrotherfunny-color-lib :D
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22:30:48kugelpbluebrother: what "strange" API? I don't find it strange at all
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23:46:52dfkt08-Rockfont.fnt is the only version of that font in existence? no other sizes, or bold version?
23:47:34dfkt(i assume someone made it specifically for rockbox?)
23:52:08dfktah... "by Jens Arnold 10/2003 V1.0, based on work by Uwe Freese"... i guess that answers my question

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