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#rockbox log for 2012-01-18

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01:48:05Guest31651ive done the hello world rockbox tutorial. can anyone please point me to a tutorial about how I can do user input, or draw simple patterns onto my Sansa clip version 2?
01:49:10funmanjust look at existing plugins
01:49:12saratogalook at one of the other plugins
01:49:33Guest31651theyre always confusing cause theres so much. is there no other way?
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01:57:51funmanno
01:57:57funmanchoose the shortest / simplest one
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03:02:34remlapJust wondering is there any closer to scrolling RDS?
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03:15:15JdGordon?
03:15:30JdGordonscrolling updating RDS is supposed to work
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11:36:17JdGordonanyone got something rockboxy to code? I'm bored
11:40:16Zagorwe could use a new ftl :-)
11:41:46wodzJdGordon: look closer at action subsystem with respect to click wheels not emitting REL
11:41:49wodz:-)
11:45:19JdGordonarg :/
11:45:30wodzZagor: how far are we from bringing back build farm?
11:45:56JdGordonZagor: gevaerts any thoughts on making the cia-bot a bit smarter with usernames?
11:46:14Zagorwodz: not so far. I plan to put some hours on it tonight.
11:46:35ZagorJdGordon: I think it's mostly my server-site script's fault actually
11:52:12LalufuJdGordon: MTP support? *duck*
11:54:34[Saint]Why so ducks need MTP support...?
11:54:54[Saint]s/so/do/
11:55:00LalufuSo they can continue to quack while downloading new oggs?
11:55:39[Saint]Eggs...ducks lay *eggs*...sheesh.
11:55:52[Saint];)
11:56:16Lalufuah, my bad.
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12:51:56MisanthroposJdGordon, i had an idea just yesterday.... start the powerdown timer depending on daytime.... e.g. after 21pm enable at startup/ else dont start time
12:52:50Misanthroposr.... you like that?
12:53:51gevaertsThat gets *very* close to pure settings bloat if you ask me
12:55:02ZagorMisanthropos: is that something you really really want, or just a cool idea?
12:55:02JdGordonneeext!
12:55:18ZagorJdGordon: raaa network streaming
12:55:40[Saint]A frickin MEN
12:57:04JdGordonblaaarg
12:57:52[Saint]Make "none" work right in a touch area?
12:59:49JdGordondidnt we get an OK from the espeak guy about relicenseing to gpl2+?
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13:00:34JdGordon[Saint]: whats not working about it?
13:01:28[Saint]If "none" is a short press item, and it shares a viewport with a long press touch item, "none" still fires on the long press.
13:01:37[Saint]Its been this way forever.
13:03:47[Saint]Normally short and long press touch areas can overlap without worry...except for "none". It doesn't seem to bother checking if its a short or long press and just fires anyway.
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13:05:09[Saint]Hardly a big issue...but one of the many little things I remember from time to time.
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13:07:57JdGordoneeerrrr?
13:08:32[Saint]Eeeeeer?
13:10:13gevaertsJdGordon: not that I know of, but we did (at least in principle) agree to allow v3 code at devcon. I can't remember the details, but IIRC we might have wanted to have that v3 code behind an ifdef so you can (if you really want to) build a pure v2 binary
13:10:24JdGordongot a easy repro example?
13:10:54JdGordon[Saint]:
13:11:38JdGordona simple mostly empty test wps would be best
13:11:38gevaertshm, maybe we said that it would have to be v3+, not sure
13:11:41JdGordon.sbs even better
13:12:25[Saint]JdGordon: I can't do that right this point...my cabbie for raaa shows it clearly.
13:12:46wodzJdGordon: we never got OK to relicense espeak to v2+
13:13:05[Saint]Long press the aa to launch hotkey, you can see the popup fire before hotkey does.
13:13:46[Saint]Its not specific to my theme, though :)
13:14:06JdGordon[Saint]: you cant whip up a quick test sbs quickly?
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13:14:34JdGordonarg, where if you zip?
13:14:40JdGordoncabbie.zip!
13:14:44JdGordondirty bugger!
13:14:45[Saint]Not right now, sorry. I'll be able to tomorrow.
13:15:18JdGordonyeah, if you can I'll try to look at it on the plane in the evening
13:16:00[Saint]Yeah, sweet. No problem. Its been broken over a year...it can wait ;)
13:16:22[Saint]I never even noticed it... Zagor did.
13:16:36[Saint](Observant me)
13:16:53JdGordonI think i remember giving this a 5min look a while ago?
13:17:22[Saint]Yeah. That's right. You gave me a patch but it had no effect.
13:17:58JdGordonhave you still got it?
13:18:39[Saint]I *might*...I'll have a grep around shortly.
13:24:12JdGordongevaerts: is your mr500 handy?
13:24:28gevaertsIt's at home
13:24:50JdGordoncan you have a look at FS #12247 when you have time?
13:24:50fs-bluebothttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12247 3Can't set time of day clock on mrobe mr500i (bugs, unconfirmed)
13:27:28JdGordondesowin: thats not affecting you is it?
13:27:43JdGordonor the connect isnt using that chip?
13:27:52[Saint]Ohhh...look at that. More hilariously wrong lang strings for raaa no one thought to deal with.
13:28:22[Saint]Time & Date "On: Set, Off: Revert"
13:29:13[Saint]JdGordon: does the mr500 have any hw keys?
13:29:27gevaerts[Saint]: one. Power
13:29:41[Saint]Right...than that bug is valid.
13:29:49gevaertsUnless you have the remote
13:30:03[Saint]If it wasn't for my dpad, I'd have the same issue in raaa
13:30:03gevaertshuh?
13:30:31gevaerts[Saint]: r29234 has *nothing* to do with the GUI
13:31:23[Saint]I'm talking about fs#12247
13:31:24fs-bluebothttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12247 3Can't set time of day clock on mrobe mr500i (bugs, unconfirmed)
13:32:08gevaertsYes, me too
13:32:14gevaerts"started at SVN R29234"
13:32:43gevaertsWhich is a SoC-specific SPI change
13:33:06[Saint]How can it have nothing to do with the GUI? Raaa could easily have this issue too...the only way out I'd see would be grid mode.
13:33:45[Saint]Unless I found a different issue altogether.
13:34:47[Saint]If I didn't have a dpad I'd have no way to set the time.
13:35:20gevaertsAs far as I can see that's not what that bug report describes
13:35:49JdGordonyeah, its a hardware bug, i bug kkurbjan ages ago but got no reply
13:35:57[Saint]Sorry...I was just reading the title.
13:37:34[Saint]This may not be a GUI issue, but there definitely is a GUI issue.
13:37:57[Saint]Assuming there's hw buttons doesn't really work.
13:38:53[Saint]The GEQ has the same/similar issue.
13:40:09gevaertsJdGordon: what am I supposed to check actually?
13:41:35JdGordonif its still broken
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13:43:09[Saint]Do you *need* the remote to set the time? I can't think how it'd work with one hw key.
13:43:49[Saint]Or have to change to grid mode I suppose.
13:44:40JdGordonyes
13:44:40gevaertsGrid mode is the default IIRC
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13:46:54[Saint]I suppose its not "broken" for raaa then, but having to navigate out, change touchscreen mode, navigate back, then change the time is a bit broken.
13:47:28[Saint]Can grid mode be activated per screen or is that too ugly?
13:50:13[Saint]Oh...it is. Interesting. My SGS just doesn't want to believe it. That's nice. I toggled grid mode in the settings and it magically works now.
13:50:42*[Saint] slaps his forehead
13:58:51[Saint]Right...ok. Time and Date screen is working as it should, and NY phone was being weird. GEQ however is being weird on all my handsets though. It seems as though it should switch to grid mode (if possible...its not even using absolute point so maybe touch is out of the question altogether?), and not rely on hw keys.
13:59:07[Saint]*my phone
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14:00:39[Saint]Though you can just use "Advanced EQ settings" instead I suppose.
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14:37:52Zagoryay, one build client auto-converted
14:41:05wodzcool
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19:08:27merlin204hi, I got data abort when powering it up
19:08:36merlin204can't do anything with it
19:08:49merlin204should i just re-install?
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19:10:20merlin204hello?
19:13:03merlin204zzz
19:30:04gevaertsmerlin204: which player?
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19:36:23merlin204hi, ipod video 30gb
19:37:05merlin204right after the splash screen and scanning disk
19:37:16merlin204I can't do much with it
19:38:03gevaertsI'd try booting to emergency disk mode and checking the filesystem
19:38:29merlin204how do i do that?
19:40:23Strife89One second.
19:40:53n1smenu+select untill it reboots and then menu+play i think
19:41:01Strife89If the iPod is off, press Menu to start it, then immediately press and hold Prev.+Select
19:42:15Strife89Or yeah, Menu+Play for checking using a computer.
19:42:22merlin204ok got it in disk mode
19:42:37merlin204maybe i'll let it fully charge
19:43:28merlin204how long does a full charge take?
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19:46:01Strife89Typically, about 2-3 hours.
19:46:09Strife89It depends on your battery.
19:51:04Strife89merlin204: Are you on Windows, Mac, or Linux?
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19:52:54merlin204i'm on windows here at work
19:53:06merlin204i should be able to full charge before leaving today
19:54:14merlin204backing up my music now
19:55:05merlin20414.2 gb
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19:56:32merlin204should i install a new roxbox build for the ipod video?
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20:01:12Strife89merlin204: Not until after you've checked the disk.
20:04:25Strife89Once your backup is done, check the drive letter of your iPod, then open a command prompt by pressing [Windows]+[R], then type cmd and press Enter.
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20:06:20Strife89In the command prompt, type: chkdsk /f X: and press [Enter], replacing X with your iPod's drive letter.
20:07:13merlin204ok i'll chkdsk
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20:07:36merlin204about 40 more minutes to backing it up
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20:22:48jhMikeSThe boards have strange bugs. No 2012 posts/threads are showing when browing Recording but it shows in the Last Post colums. :\
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20:27:36jhMikeSand no, it's not removed posts doing this or something
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20:41:18merlin204can i upgrade without deleting the music on the ipod?
20:41:25gevaertsyes
20:45:56merlin204great
20:49:00merlin204chkdsk found no problems
20:51:08merlin204just do a complete install?
20:51:31gevaertsShouldn't hurt anyway
20:51:52merlin204great
20:52:04merlin204maybe my low battery was preventing it from working?
20:52:17gevaertsI doubt that
20:52:48merlin204wow, lots of themes
20:54:19merlin204ok i guess it's done
20:54:34merlin204maybe i should keep it plugged in for it to completely charge
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21:23:13merlin204what's new with the latest build?
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21:31:56Strife89merlin204: It depends on what version you're running. You can look at the Major Changes ( http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/MajorChanges ) for a summary.
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21:44:13merlin204no problem
21:44:18merlin204as long as it works
21:44:19merlin204:)
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22:11:21paulguestHello i'm new to rockbox, and i have a question
22:12:04paulguesti have the Lego LGMP3G2 player and would like to know if i can do anything to update this mp3player with rockbox or rockbox only
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22:13:03gevaertspaulguest: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/NewPort may be a good start
22:18:13paulguestno found nothing
22:20:49Zagorpaulguest: every single player needs have support written for it. if it's not listed on the front page (which it isn't) then it's not supported yet.
22:21:19Zagorto get it supported, someone needs to make a new port. which is what gevaerts showed you.
22:22:33*Bagder fires up his build client
22:23:22paulguestok thanks, but i dont think that i'm skilled enough to do this
22:23:29paulguestgood night
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22:27:21merlin204ok it seems to have worked
22:30:10merlin20480% charged so far
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23:02:43BagderZagor: presumably it should never pull, only fetch
23:03:14Zagordoes "checkout" fetch the new stuff?
23:03:33Bagderno, it just checks it out from what you have locally
23:03:44Bagderso you'd need to fetch it first
23:03:49Zagorhow?
23:03:55Bagderwith fetch?
23:04:10Zagorjust "git fetch"?
23:04:32Bagdergit fetch [repository]
23:04:54BagderI'll admit I'm not a master at this
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23:07:02ZagorI think just replacing "git pull" with "git fetch" is the right fix
23:07:15bluebrotherthe genlang script on the server would need to get adjusted as well, right?
23:08:52Zagorbluebrother: right, I had forgotten about that
23:16:55kugelZagor: what's needed to get the ypr0 into the build system ? (once it's up and running again that is)
23:17:18Zagorkugel: adding it to www/buildserver/builds
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23:17:31kugelit uses a new toolchain
23:18:05Zagoryou'll have to convince at least one client admin to install it then :)
23:18:46kugelconvincing my client was rather easy :)
23:19:03bertrikI won't mind adding another toolchain, as long as building it is automatic
23:19:21lebelliumoh yeah
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23:19:30lebelliumplease add the R0 into the build system :D
23:19:32Zagorkeeping the last 20 build logs isn't quite as simple with hashes as with revision numbers...
23:20:34Bagder"git log −−oneline -20" | awk '{print $1}'
23:21:07Bagdercan possibly help
23:21:14kugelanything else? i think rbclient needs updating? perhaps some button on the server?
23:22:25Zagorrbclient only does failsafe checking, it's not necessary to modify it.
23:22:54bertrikhow do I advertise capability for building yp-r0 in the build client?
23:23:18Zagoradd it to -archlist in your runclient.sh
23:23:46funmanBagder: did you get my mail with mkamsboot binaries ?
23:23:57Bagderyes, but I haven't done my homework
23:24:33bertrikZagor, add what exactly? "arm-app"?
23:24:42funmanatm the wiki point to my homepage but i think the manual still has rockbox.org links
23:25:03Zagorbertrik: the compiler string kugel adds to the builds file
23:25:21gevaertsPlease don't make it 'arm-app'...
23:25:37gevaertsIt should at least have the gcc version in it somehow
23:26:21funmandon't we check for gcc version in configure already ?
23:26:50funmanit should have the target that gcc was configured with i think, not the version
23:27:15gevaertsIt should have both
23:27:38gevaertsUpgrading the compiler is a pain if the build server has to guess what the cliens have
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23:45:14jhMikeSZagor: why can't sequential revision be synthesized?
23:45:49Zagorit can
23:46:16jhMikeSis it difficult?
23:47:09Zagorit adds some complexity. I'm not convinced it's really what we want.
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23:48:38jhMikeSI wasn't really speaking to wants so much as knowing rXXXXX comes before rXXXXX+1, which is convenient for looking things up and simple to remember.
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23:50:15ZagorjhMikeS: yes I know. I'm still unsure. is for example timestamp just as good?
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23:51:56jhMikeSZagor: that sounds like a good idea too
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