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#rockbox log for 2012-01-28

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00:07:46jhMikeSkugel: maybe an asm tree for apps too?
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00:26:38BaltowolfOk, take 2.
00:27:28Baltowolf[Saint]: Can Gimp resize without needing to edit the magenta?
00:27:53[Saint]Not to my knowledge.
00:28:18BaltowolfDo you know any software that can?
00:28:39[Saint]No matter what you use, when downsizing ting bitmaps, you'll undoubtedly need to clean it up by hand to look right.
00:28:50[Saint]s/ting/tiny/
00:28:54BaltowolfOk.
00:29:12BaltowolfANd it's just every magenta that's a slightly different shade, right?
00:29:47*[Saint] isn't sure of the question there...
00:30:11[Saint]depending on how small you want them...there's a port of iLike for the Nano
00:30:16[Saint]You could possibly just steal those bitmaps.
00:30:38[Saint]The iLike Nano port was the first one I made.
00:31:34BaltowolfWell, I'm making it for the Fuze. Does the Nano one have blue buttons?
00:31:47BaltowolfIs the Nano the color/photo one?
00:31:52Baltowolf'Cause that's what I'm doing it with.
00:32:04[Saint]No...the Nano is the Nano one :)
00:32:23 Quit Strife89 (Quit: Battery panic!)
00:32:30BaltowolfOh, which gen?
00:32:36[Saint]Doesn't matter.
00:33:11BaltowolfOh.
00:33:30[Saint]they might be a bit smaller than you want, though. I'm not sure. But its worth a try.
00:35:22BaltowolfWeird, not seeing it for either 1g or 2g.
00:36:38[Saint]Hummm...it may have broken and been removed.
00:36:53[Saint]I've not been paying much/any attention to these old themes.
00:36:58Baltowolf:P
00:37:16BaltowolfDo you have the files still? Can you check the size if you do?
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00:39:33[Saint]Baltowolf: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/30204410/iPod%20Nano.zip
00:40:00[Saint]That includes a: the theme, and b: a dump of all the OF images.
00:40:23BaltowolfThanks. :P
00:40:41BaltowolfI was gonna ask you to filedrop it if it was the right size, that works. :P
00:41:26BaltowolfROFL! The heli from parachute. XD
00:42:17[Saint]its *every* OF image...I used them as a reference when building the theme...I needed to recreate all the images from scratch due to licensing issues.
00:42:57[Saint]I can't re-use their images, but, I can painstakingly recreate them by hand. :)
00:43:05[Saint]...so I did.
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00:44:46Baltowolf:P
00:45:01BaltowolfLooks I'll still have to do a little resizing but not as much.
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00:46:31BaltowolfYou did a great job recreating them. Especially the battery icon looks no different. Much better than other recreations of OF themes like the classic fuze one. That's fuzzy, yours is spot on.
00:47:05[Saint]It took me months, I was pretty anal about it.
00:48:10[Saint]I even went as far as getting someone to scan thir player so I could get the alignment pixel perfect for the Color/Photo
00:48:27[Saint]s/thir/their/
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00:48:56 Nick kugel is now known as kugelp (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel)
00:49:11[Saint]I took it too far, really :)
00:49:11[Saint]It went from a "tribute" theme, to a complete rip-off.
00:50:08kugelpBaltowolf: You can use real transparency now
00:50:11[Saint]the volume/progress bar isn't *quite* right, but, it looks like it is...so, good enough. ;)
00:50:23kugelpjhMikeS: you like it?
00:52:39BaltowolfWow... I think there's dust /under/ my screen...
00:52:52BaltowolfI just took my screen protector off and it's not coming off... XD
00:53:07kugelpBaltowolf: convert magenta to alpha channel (can do that in Gimp, color to transparency) then rescale
00:54:04[Saint]kugelp: Won't that still do edge-blending?
00:55:16[Saint]you really need to scale, and *then* do color->alpha
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00:55:41[Saint]sorry, scale, fix up blending issues, color_.alpha
00:55:52kugelpedge what?
00:56:01[Saint]dithering.
00:56:41 Nick kugelp is now known as kugel (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel)
00:57:02BaltowolfSo, how should I do this, locate all different shades of magenta? There's some showing still after resizing.
00:58:16[Saint]the image should be small enough that changing all the magenta pixels to "true magenta" (ff00ff) should be rather trivial.
00:58:48Baltowolfok
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00:59:30Baltowolfthe stuff around the buttons is what I want to get right?
00:59:55Unhelpfulthe basic idea was that rather than a single call to the scaler function, that takes a callback to get new lines from the loader, the loader should call a scaler setup function to fill in a scaler state object, and then call another function with each line of image data
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01:00:07Unhelpful(just in case somebody wants to pick this up)
01:01:10[Saint]Mostly, yes. But resizing may have slightly changed the shade of all colours...so it might not be a bad idea to go over everything again.
01:02:19Baltowolf?
01:02:38[Saint]s/everything/all magenta/
01:03:31Unhelpfulmore importantly scaling may have blended magenta with other colors when they're adjacent. you *really* have to convert the magenta to true transparent before scaling.
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01:04:25Baltowolfoh, so if I make everything truly transparent and then scale it won't happen?
01:04:53ScHlAuChihi, is it possible to search a file inside a folder? or do you always have to search the whole database?
01:06:38UnhelpfulBaltowolf: yes, *but* then your image will have partially-transparent pixels, which rockbox doesn't support. so you'll need to decide whether to dither those or just make them fully transparent, and then replace all of the transparent pixels with a transparency color again.
01:07:12[Saint]ScHlAuChi: I don't believe the File Browser has a search function, no.
01:07:21[Saint]If it exists, its carefull hidden.
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01:07:48ScHlAuChihavent found any, but could be useful if you want to serch only a specific folder
01:08:27ScHlAuChilets say you have a folder OCRemix and look for a specific song inside it
01:08:59BaltowolfUnhelpful: Wjat do you mean? What are the partially transparent ones?
01:09:56UnhelpfulBaltowolf: if you scale the image there will be pixels that are blended between a colored pixel and an adjacent non-transparent pixel from the original.
01:10:03[Saint]How is searching the whole DB recursively different from searching an individual folder? Other than being slightly faster?
01:10:22ScHlAuChithats what im wondering
01:10:24[Saint]Oh...I suppose if you have more than one file of the same name, yeah.
01:11:05ScHlAuChiwell not only that
01:11:12[Saint]ScHlAuChi: No, we're not really wondering the same thing I don't think :) I'm wondering what the point would be.
01:11:20[Saint]But I can see one use case.
01:11:21ScHlAuChilets say i have metal gear solid soundtracks on the player, and i also have OCremix folder
01:11:33ScHlAuChiif im looking only for the remixes
01:12:08ScHlAuChii dont really want to browse through the tons of matches if i know in advance that they wont be waht im looking for
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01:12:31[Saint]Aaaaaanyway. No, there doesn't seem to be a search feature for the File Browser.
01:12:38[Saint]Patches are always welcome.
01:12:54ScHlAuChiis there a way to request such a feature somewhere?
01:13:39[Saint]No. There's "Feature Ideas", but "Feature Requests" implies that someone will actually do something about it.
01:13:44[Saint]...which may not be the case at all.
01:14:15[Saint]People work on what they want to work on, because its fun, and it interests them. Not because Joe Public wants it.
01:14:29BaltowolfUnhelpful: I see. :P So how do I get rid of them? Just cut 'em out? There's now some white around it.
01:15:08ScHlAuChi[Saint]: of course
01:15:39ScHlAuChii was just wondering if that function already existed, cause after all its already there more or less
01:16:08[Saint]Not really, no.
01:16:27[Saint]The Database and the File Browser are entirely unrelated.
01:16:34ScHlAuChiah ok
01:16:49ScHlAuChiso the database is not aware of the folder structure?
01:18:29[Saint]It is, yes.
01:19:21[Saint]But the File Browser is completely seperate from the Database.
01:19:42Unhelpfuli believe paths and filenames are also in the database? but the database browser is separate from the file browser and only browses on keys that are in the DB.
01:19:51ScHlAuChiyeah so the file browser would have to tell the database where the user currently is
01:20:02[Saint]No.
01:20:43ScHlAuChihow else would it know what folder to start the search from?
01:21:06[Saint]because its a *database* :)
01:22:16[Saint]It scans though the filesystem on init, it knows the path of the files it lists.
01:24:02ScHlAuChii know :)
01:24:31[Saint]You do? Because your prior question kinda implied otherwise :)
01:25:11ScHlAuChiwhat i mean is if you go to some subfolder and you would do a search there, how would the database know to only search within that subfolder
01:25:17ScHlAuChiit currently doesnt or am i wrong?
01:26:00BaltowolfUnhelpful: hello?
01:26:05[Saint]What are you talking about?
01:26:20[Saint]There's no "folder/subfolder" in the Database.
01:26:51[Saint]You're confusing File Browser and Database. The two are unrelated.
01:28:19ScHlAuChii know they arent the same thing :)
01:28:29[Saint]Really?
01:28:37[Saint]You don't seem to... ;)
01:29:33BaltowolfDoes Rockbox record from mix right onto the main player folder? (like E.) or does it go ot a specific folder?
01:31:05[Saint]Baltowolf: You can set it to record to anywhere you want.
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01:31:23[Saint]I believe the default is /Recordings
01:31:50[Saint]But you can set it to use any folder you wish via the context menu
01:31:59Baltowolfwhat does it name the recordings? is the ?"r mic" files on my E/ folder now?
01:32:01ScHlAuChi[Saint]: i try to explain it in detail in PM, so it doesnt spam here ;)
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01:32:41[Saint]Please don't. I'd really rather you didn't.
01:33:00ScHlAuChitoo late :P
01:33:48[Saint]I was actually serious.
01:35:06UnhelpfulBaltowolf: yeah, you need to decide what to do with them. nothing is going to end up looking especially nice, it's just not that easy. :/
01:35:14ScHlAuChiwell the problem is that its hard to explain
01:35:58[Saint]It really isn't. The File Browser and the Database are completely seperate. Acknowledge that, and you'll be fine.
01:36:11ScHlAuChii KNOW that, thats not what im asking for
01:36:15ScHlAuChithis is excactly the problem ;)
01:36:47[Saint]Well you've repeatedly made refernce to features of the Database that simply don't exist.
01:36:48pamauryI'm wondering why the RDS commit in si4700 removed the gpio setup...
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01:37:31UnhelpfulScHlAuChi: i don't believe there is any support for database views of only files in a certain directory, if that's what you're getting at.
01:37:44Unhelpfulit *might* be reasonably sane to add, i don't know the DB that well.
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01:37:52ScHlAuChiyep thats pretty much what im getting at
01:38:18ScHlAuChii was wondering if the database could be made aware of where the filebrowser "location"
01:38:34ScHlAuChiso if you hold down the button on a subfolder you get a search function
01:38:40[Saint]I'm not sure it is sane, its a cache of metadata...metadata doesn't include path info.
01:39:04Unhelpful[Saint]: it doesn't? it at least includes the path of the file, no?
01:39:09ScHlAuChiand when you search then the database knows that it only needs to look in that subfolder not the whole database
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01:39:35ScHlAuChifor that there needs to be some sort of communication between filebrowser and database (which doesnt exist yet)
01:40:08[Saint]which will /probably/ never happen.
01:40:11ScHlAuChibut it could speed up searching alot, if you know already where a file is roughly located
01:40:33ScHlAuChi[Saint]: yes but there was a chance that this was already existing :)
01:40:36ScHlAuChiwhich is why i asked ;)
01:40:49UnhelpfulScHlAuChi: if you know what a file *is* you should have no problems finding it in the DB ;P
01:41:20[Saint]ScHlAuChi: You did it again: "so if you hold down the button on a subfolder you get a search function" <−− there's no directory sorting *in* the Database.
01:41:25[Saint]so that's not possible.
01:41:51ScHlAuChiyes i know there isnt, this was a hypothetical example, i thought this was obvious
01:42:10[Saint]We can't read minds, no.
01:43:37[Saint]Pretty much, if this were to happen...it would need to be entirely seperate to the Database.
01:44:03[Saint]As keeping the two seperate has been a goal since...forever.
01:44:04saratogaas far as I can tell, virtually every user with an ICQ address is a spam bot
01:44:17saratogaso maybe we should just flag new users with ICQ addresses as spammers
01:44:45[Saint]No sane human still uses ICQ anyway :P
01:44:55ScHlAuChiexcept old ppl like me :P
01:45:23[Saint]maybe I should have put emphasis on sane ;)
01:45:33Unhelpful[Saint]: i don't know, you could launch the database with some sort of parameter stored somewhere that filters what is visible
01:45:34saratogaeven if people actually use ICQ post 1999, i doubt they tell their 15 digit random number to a piece of forums software
01:46:03Unhelpfulif you want to make it general it could support a lot more than search-in-subfolder. ;)
01:46:15ScHlAuChiUnhelpful: yep thats what i was asking for ;)
01:46:49UnhelpfulScHlAuChi: well, convince somebody else that they want to work on it, then. ;)
01:46:52[Saint]saratoga: point.
01:47:02ScHlAuChiunlikely
01:47:07BaltowolfOk, I'm trying your iPod Nano's play icon ONE pixel smaller. XD I can see how you managed to "overdo it" when you made this.
01:47:07ScHlAuChito happen ;)
01:47:31Unhelpfulor, as somebody described mythtv's feature request process on their mail list once: "you write a patch for the feature, then you request that we include it"
01:47:57ScHlAuChiyep, that only works if youre a programmer tho :P
01:48:08saratogai like that feature request policy
01:48:20saratogaeven more then our present "don't you dare ask for features"
01:48:47[Saint]That's why I like our 'Feature Ideas"...Developers can look at it and say "Oh, that's a nice idea" and *still* not be obligated to implement it ;)
01:49:14[Saint]Feature Requests kinda implies it'll happen :)
01:49:39BaltowolfOh, question about the metronome on the Fuze, how do I record to sync?
01:50:02ScHlAuChiwell its better to find out if a feature exists already before you ask ;)
01:50:03[Saint]"record to sync"?
01:50:12ScHlAuChiat least now i knowit doesnt!
01:51:21BaltowolfIn the metronome it has the option to record something whicih I assume it syncs the beat of.
01:51:28BaltowolfI didn't find anything in the manual.
01:51:38BaltowolfAll it says is "REC TO SYNC"
01:52:16[Saint]Hmmm...no idea. I had no idea this feature existed. If it genuinely isn't described in the manual, I'd call that a "bug".
01:52:48ScHlAuChiNot a feature - closed
01:56:05BaltowolfLol wow
01:56:17BaltowolfIt's there, look in your metronomes. It says it.
01:57:12[Saint]there was a degree of sarcasm in ScHlAuChi's post I believe, Baltowolf.
01:57:37ScHlAuChiyes it was a bugreport joke only programmers would get :P
01:57:38BaltowolfYeah, I kinda' figure.
01:58:29BaltowolfSo, Saint, every time I resize the playmode icon it always shows magenta, but when I use it full size the bottom cuts off a bit. What's your suggestions? This is almost as annoying as the dust under my screen.
01:58:34ScHlAuChias you wont believe how often you get features reported as a bug :P
01:59:50[Saint]Baltowolf: Adjust the viewport parameters to suit the image size.
02:00
02:00:18[Saint]Or, do what was suggested with the transparency.
02:01:52pamaurythis fuze+ radio is complete crap, I will never be able to tune it whatever I do
02:02:31[Saint]pamaury: That's not the "can do" hacker's attitude!
02:02:53saratogawork on the colorspace conversion instead :)
02:03:14pamaury[Saint]: you would agree if you had lockup you player hundred times without any hint of a reason :)
02:03:23ScHlAuChi[Saint]: is there actually a reason why database and filebrowse were kept separate? (was it different before?)
02:03:25Baltowolf[Saint]: What's the viewport parameter?
02:03:50BaltowolfAnd the transparency suggestion was making it all true transparent before resizing correct?
02:04:03[Saint]Wow...MEGAHIGHLIGHT!
02:04:13*[Saint] isa popular boy today...
02:04:38ScHlAuChiyou may end up like Lindsay Lohan
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02:05:36[Saint]ScHlAuChi: Yes, the Database consumes RAM, and most developers use the File Browser exclusively and do not want to lose RAM because of the Filebrowser requiring the Database.
02:05:45ScHlAuChiah
02:05:48ScHlAuChii see
02:06:43[Saint]Conversations get just short of death threats whenever someone suggests making the Database a requirement ;)
02:06:56[Saint](I'm only half joking there, too)
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02:08:52*Baltowolf bangs head on wall
02:09:00ScHlAuChiits the rockbox equivalent to the Muhammand caricatures?
02:09:11[Saint]In all seriousness, the more I think about it...if you have to navigate to the directory/sub-directory to initiate the search anyway (lets say this feature existed)...is it that much of a stretch to just browse the directory?
02:09:12Baltowolf[Saint]: Ok, so Making everything true transparent before resizing causes a white box around the icon, what do I do?
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02:10:15[Saint]Select said white box and do color->alpha again?
02:11:11BaltowolfI take it I should download Gimp...
02:11:45ScHlAuChi[Saint]: nah its not such a big deal, its only problematic when you have folders like OCRemix where theres 2600+ files
02:11:52ScHlAuChiso i just wondered if that existed ;)
02:12:09ScHlAuChii can live without too
02:12:58[Saint]Ah...I was expecting a "sane" layout of /Music/Artist/Album but didn't account for /Album having several thousand tracks.
02:14:07ScHlAuChianother example i can think of is Amigaremix or C64remix
02:14:12ScHlAuChitheres no real way to "sort" them
02:14:22ScHlAuChias they are all by diff authors
02:14:46ScHlAuChiso in those cases when you look for a specifc remix it could have been quite useful to have subfolder search
02:16:55[Saint]Couldn't you just tag the files sanely?
02:18:21ScHlAuChiusually they are tagged sanely already, but theres no real standards by those sites, so everyone can tag them how they want
02:18:42[Saint]you could add an identifiable tag to the "comment" field, and sort by comment.
02:18:52ScHlAuChihmm interesting idea
02:19:20*[Saint] tries to be useful occasionally.
02:19:25[Saint];)
02:19:58pyther[Saint]: just want to thank you for helping me earlier, got rid of my embedded cover art. Solved my crashing problem. Cheers
02:20:14[Saint]pyther: Not a problem.
02:20:18ScHlAuChiwell youre already useful enough by working on this ;)
02:21:07[Saint]I don't do any useful "behind the scenes" stuff, too low level for me...I'm just a lowly theme author :)
02:21:26ScHlAuChi*spits*
02:21:27ScHlAuChi;)
02:21:30ScHlAuChiwhich one
02:21:49ScHlAuChinot that i can use many, old player is old
02:22:25ScHlAuChiold, but still the best around!
02:23:33[Saint]SO...um, yeah. My best suggestion at this point is to add the "directory" (or a readily identifiable field) to the comment field of the metadata, and sort via comment.
02:23:56[Saint]Its a bit of a hack, but it /should/ be pretty much what you want.
02:24:11ScHlAuChiworth a try
02:24:13ScHlAuChiwhich theme did you do?
02:25:48[Saint]There's a few dotted around the place. I did the iLike and Symmetry themes, and I guess I fall into the position of "maintainer" for cabbiev2 (the Rockbox default theme).
02:26:09[Saint]the first two haven't seen any love from me in quite some time, though.
02:26:37[Saint]I'm doing a bit of work on cabbiev2 for Rockbox as an Application for touchscreen targets now.
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02:27:35ScHlAuChii use cabbiev2, im boring
02:27:54[Saint]It's a nice theme, it "just works".
02:27:57*Baltowolf is installing gimp
02:28:02ScHlAuChiyep thats why
02:28:17ScHlAuChithe other themes dont really work for my iHP-140
02:28:27ScHlAuChithey are mostly made for players with bigger screens
02:28:34Baltowolf[Saint]: Apple's gonna sue you now.
02:28:56BaltowolfNot that Apple sutff just works either.
02:29:01[Saint]There's quite a few tweaks I need to add to cabbiev2 that have come from my RaaA work...I really should make a patch for this.
02:29:39[Saint]It needs some lovin'
02:29:51ScHlAuChioh noes
02:30:01ScHlAuChihes going to make cabbie patch kids
02:30:40*[Saint] just sprayed coffee over his pants
02:30:45[Saint]nice one :)
02:31:01ScHlAuChimy sister had one of those once - so annoying
02:31:29ScHlAuChilike 15 years ago or so :P
02:31:43[Saint]coffee pants?
02:31:45[Saint];)
02:33:48BaltowolfXD
02:34:28ScHlAuChiyep
02:35:11BaltowolfOk, So Saint, what do I do to make it transparent in GIMP? Keep in mind I've never really used it before. :P
02:35:49BaltowolfIs color to alpha to make it transparent?
02:35:51pytherUse photoshop :P
02:35:54*Baltowolf does it anyway
02:36:08Baltowolfpyther: I was using photoshop but he game me a gimp command. XD
02:36:18Baltowolfpyther: PSE tends to crash on me sometimes too.
02:37:19pytherI'm just trollin, I know nothing very little about gimp and photoshop. I do know photoshop is a system admin nightmare for deployment
02:47:28Baltowolf[Saint]: so do I just resize the buttons and go to colors and turn it to alpha?
02:51:28[Saint]color->alpha, *then* resize, would be my suggestion.
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02:52:55[Saint]Actually...I think GIMP can do that all in one action.
02:53:53[Saint]export to <file>, then specify color->alpha channel and image dimensions. I'm reasonably confident GIMP allows this.
02:54:17[Saint]I'm not in a position to check, though.
02:54:32[Saint]I'm sure GIMP has fine documentation.
02:55:31Baltowolfk
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03:00:11Baltowolf[Saint]: So wherever the buttons don't "occupy space" the transparency pattern is. Any ideas?
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03:08:42BaltowolfOk, I got an idea, I'm going to download the screenshot of the theme, place the icons over the one in the screenshot to allign them perfectly and put the backdrop as the background...
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09:05:06*[Saint] really dislikes there not being a way to remove a shortcut other than a: deleting shortcuts.txt entirely or b: editing the file manually.
09:06:22[Saint]And come to think of it...why is the menu item even present if there are no shortcuts? Surely it could be displayed only when the feature is actually in use?
09:07:28*[Saint] realizes he's a bit late to the party with this complaint.
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09:46:17lorenzo92kugel: samsung replied me about the radio driver: no code under any open license, so either need to reverse the original module or build a new one with register access
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10:52:14user890104how do i switch my rockbox svn working copy to a git working copy (and update to the latest rev)?
10:52:47[Saint]You do a new checkout.
10:53:20[Saint]There's no way to switch svn to git afaik.
10:54:01user890104thanks, will apply the patches manually after i checkout then
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10:55:28[Saint]On the upside, a git checkout only takes a few minutes.
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11:09:30kugelunhelpful: we do support partially transparent pixels now
11:09:53JdGordon[Saint]: did you want to talk about the sbs touch issues?
11:11:16JdGordonand yes, I need to add a plugin to manage shortcuts better
11:11:28[Saint]There's not really much of an issue other than fwd/rew moving the line selector instead of seeking.
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11:13:23JdGordonhmm... yeah, thats quite badly named
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11:45:22lebelliumhew
11:45:24lebelliumhey
11:45:40lebelliumdoes someone know who should be contacted to get the YP-R0 on this page http://themes.rockbox.org/ .
11:45:41lebellium?
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12:03:22bertrikdo we really need the origin HEAD:master arguments for git push?
12:04:02JdGordonnot if you are commiting from master
12:05:15bertrikI try to always commit from my local master
12:05:54bertrikto add a patch, I usually branch, apply the patch, check that it works, checkout master, check stuff again, then push
12:07:04CIA-81Commit bebfd7f in rockbox by 03Bertrik Sikken: (Author: Asier Arsuaga) FS #12567 - Update Basque Language File
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13:15:20jupiterjonesHi, question is: when I want to switch from one rockbox to different rockbox (witch some patches) - do I have to swap full .rockbox folder? Or only few files inside? How it works.
13:15:36LearAnyone about to fix building of test plugins on non-touch targets? If not, I'll commit what I have...
13:16:43[Saint]jupiterjones: that depends entirely on the patches.
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13:36:18JdGordonwho broke the sim?
13:36:25JdGordon$ ./rockboxui
13:36:25JdGordon*** longjmp causes uninitialized stack frame ***: ./rockboxui terminated
13:38:29CIA-81Commit a65d241 in rockbox by 03Jonathan Gordon: skin touchregions: change the rwd/ffwd region actions to make it less buggy in the sbs
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13:40:12*[Saint] nods.
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13:42:14CIA-81Commit 84c77d4 in rockbox by 03Magnus Holmgren: Fix building test plugins on non-touch targets.
13:42:15CIA-81Commit 3019a80 in rockbox by 03Magnus Holmgren: Update Swedish translation.
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16:09:18kugelLear, your fix looks incorrect
16:09:54kugelyou just moved the struct into an unrelated ifdef section
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16:18:34CIA-81Commit c5f772c in rockbox by 03Frank Gevaerts: (Author: Wieland Hoffmann) correct a typo
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16:22:51gevaertshm, the build system seems to be misbehaving
16:23:43gevaertsIt's trying to build a commit that doesn't exust
16:23:45gevaerts*i
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16:24:59gevaertsZagor: http://pastie.org/3270266
16:25:02[Saint]:p
16:25:42gevaertsFor extra weirdness, according to the build client output this was two minutes before I actually pushed that change
16:26:48[Saint]I'm actually amazed its been this long before the first "wait...what the hell?" moment with the build clients since the switch.
16:29:14pamauryI'm seriously considering to write the emulator for the imx233 using qemu or skeyee...
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17:16:11funmandidn't wodz look into this already?
17:16:31pamaurynot for the imx233
17:16:47pamauryhe wrote something for the rk27xx
17:16:50pamauryusing skyeye
17:19:10pamaurybut qemu seems much more solid, although more complicated to use also
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17:23:05[Saint] Qemu seems a lot better in regards to documentation also.
17:24:46pamaurywell, the code is of much better quality so it's at least quite self-documented
17:25:20pamauryit lacks documentation but since it supports so many devices and platform, you can figure out by looking at what others do
17:25:36pamaury(I hope)
17:26:11pamauryNevertheless, emulating the imx233 will be quite a task
17:31:56pamauryBut since it's a common platform, perhaps there will be people to help me
17:31:59*pamaury is dreaming
17:32:26[Saint] There's quite a few devices using this SoC, no?
17:32:37[Saint]Doesn't seem too far fetched.
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18:16:08[Saint]Seems "sane", no?
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19:57:17dreamlayersIf I disagree with a change on Gerrit can I just comment on it, or can I also submit an alternative that I propose?
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20:00:56BaltowolfHow come sometimes my album art doesn't display? It's tagged in.
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20:02:39dreamlayersBaltowolf: do some files always fail to display album art, and others always display it?
20:03:22BaltowolfIt seems sporadic. I haven't noticed if some always do or not.
20:03:31BaltowolfSome display it though and then dont' later.
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20:07:02dreamlayersDo you know if this only happens with album art in tags? I use cover.jpg files and I didn't notice any problems recently.
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20:08:19BaltowolfI don't have any Cover.jpegs so I don't know that. All I know is some don't display it.
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20:22:04Baltowolf[Saint]: OK, so today Saint I'm doing plan Z or something like that, recoloring the original icons. :P
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20:29:30dreamlayersIs there any point to outputting a space after a number that is changing but not decreasing? In other words, can one trust that numerals are fixed-width?
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21:11:33BaltowolfDoes rockbox support pngs too as well as jpegs for covers
21:11:59dreamlayersOnly jpeg and bmp are supported for covers.
21:12:09BaltowolfOk.
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21:39:30fuzionhi all ;)
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21:43:13fuzionis it possible to remove iOS and to run rockbox only on an ipod touch 3?
21:43:35n1sno, the ipod touch is not supported
21:45:44fuzionhuh, okay, sorry then.
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21:46:00fuzionthanks.
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21:55:43saratoga[7]: have you looked at all those Classic6G patches?
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21:59:02n1si've had FS #12510 FS #12521 and FS #12523 on my classic for a while now and it's working fine, not sure if the battery time improved much but i haven't bencehd it
21:59:03fs-bluebothttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12510 3MPEG player does not work on Fuze+ (bugs, unconfirmed)
21:59:04fs-bluebothttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12521 3iPod Classic/6G: cpu freq scaling (patches, unconfirmed)
21:59:04fs-bluebothttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12523 3IPod Classic/6G: LCD sleep (patches, unconfirmed)
21:59:48saratogaFS #12524 looks pretty harmless as well
21:59:48fs-bluebothttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12524 3iPod Classic/6G: hardware click support (patches, unconfirmed)
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22:00:32n1soh s/12510/12520
22:00:34n1ssaratoga: i think he looked at it quickly and wanted to come up with a better place or way to read the hold sitch in FS #12520
22:00:35fs-bluebothttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12520 3iPod Classic/6G: holdswitch PMU polling crashes (bugs, unconfirmed)
22:01:21n1si was wondering about if they shouldn't just use the nano 2g's driver without coupying it
22:02:06saratogai just hate to give that guy the idea we don't care about his giant pile of fixes
22:02:14n1si'm not sure where to move it though
22:03:02n1syeah that would be sad, i've had very little rb time the last few weeks
22:03:20saratogasame here
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23:31:35Dingo-How do I play font smaller in sansa clip zip? :P
23:31:54saratogachange to a smaller font
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23:32:48Dingo-zz
23:32:53Dingo--play + change
23:32:54Dingo-:P
23:33:29Dingo-totally messed up sentence. Im using dfkt theme but would like to try smaller font, any tip how to change?
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23:38:06gevaertsDingo-: you could change the font that's loaded in the wps file
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23:57:27Dingo-wps file? :) Sorry but im totally new to this
23:58:34gevaertsWell, actually, which font is too small?

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