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#rockbox log for 2012-02-14

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00:05:44Fuze_V2_webhostok...I go to sleep now....thak you funman and saratoga....hopefully we will figure out this freezing soon :-) speak to you tomorrow
00:07:07*bluebrother factors out manual download / installation of the main Rockbox Utility class
00:07:36bluebrotherhmm, this could be quite a good approach for removing the Quick Start tab actually :)
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03:07:30omnicowhello. i'm going to be purchasing a rockbox-compatible device for my boyfriend and i had hoped I could get some reccomendations for a device. I read through the FAQ and glanced at the buyer's guide, but noticed that the second hadn't been updated for a few years.
03:08:56saratogathe sansa clip+ and zip are pretty popular, cheap and well supported
03:11:36omnicowthanks, i'll check into those. the only real prerequisites are being, yeah, well supported and having a respectable battery life.
03:13:09[Saint]The Clip(s) are a bit....hmmm, how can I put it.
03:13:24[Saint]The feel rather like a Happy Meal toy :)
03:13:25omnicowexpandable memory is nice too.
03:13:57[Saint]What's your price range?
03:14:21omnicowi had hoped to stick within $50 but am not unwilling to go a little higher if something exceptional should merit it
03:15:37[Saint]You can pick up an iPod Video for pretty cheap these days, and fit it with a 250GB HDD
03:15:49[Saint]But, that will run over $50 for sure.
03:16:49[Saint]A Sansa Fuze, or one of the Wanda Clip series will probably be the cheapest, most readily accessible device.
03:17:23[Saint]The Fuze isn't available new anymore, but there's a lot of second hand or refurbished models available for sale still.
03:17:29saratogafor $50 a Clip is a great choice
03:17:58[Saint]I prefer the Fuze over the Clip, because of the screen size.
03:18:39[Saint]The Clip(s) screens are *very* small.
03:18:58[Saint]And all except the Clip Zip are monochrome.
03:18:58saratogayeah, but if you're just playing music its not really a big deal
03:19:38[Saint]Yeah....kinda. I do like to be able to see the info on the screen at a glance, though.
03:19:52[Saint]I like a nice, large, colour screen
03:21:05omnicowthanks for the suggestions. I think I've got an idea of what I want to grab now.
03:21:38[Saint]But....yeah, for cost and accessibility, a Sansa Fuze or Sansa Clip is probably the way to go.
03:21:52[Saint]Unless capacity is an issue.
03:22:20[Saint]With either of the devices the maximum capacity is 40GB
03:22:31omnicownot in an extreme sense −− it looks like both the fuze and the clip allow for exandable media, which is really all I'm concerned about.
03:23:02[Saint]Yeah, it'll take a 32GB sdcard with Rockbox
03:23:48[Saint]And the maximum internal memory is 8GB on both the Fuze and Clip(s) iirc
03:24:24[Saint]Oh....actually, the Clip Zip might have a larger capacity option. I'm not sure though.
03:24:33omnicowi think i've got what I need to make my decision. thanks for all the help. :)
03:24:50[Saint]Not a problem. Enjoy.
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03:25:43saratoga40GB is the largest right now, although probably 64GB cards will be possible eventually
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04:43:23JdGordonFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU @ FS #12585
04:43:24fs-bluebothttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12585 3Bar tags no longer work (bugs, unconfirmed)
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06:06:02JdGordonsaratoga_: did the post get through akismet?
06:06:17saratoga_JdGordon: yes it did
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09:54:35CIA-44Commit 9acd702 in rockbox by 03Jonathan Gordon: Fix FS #12585 - bar tags stopped working
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09:57:54CIA-449acd702 build result: 4 errors, 1 warnings (Jonathan Gordon committed)
09:59:57JdGordonbuild client error
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10:01:37Zagorhow annoying
10:02:28gevaertsZagor: speaking of build client errors, does updating the blocked clients file still work?
10:03:26Zagorno. how do I git-update a single file?
10:04:25Zagoror maybe I should just stop worrying and activate www update-on-push
10:05:29gevaertshttp://stackoverflow.com/questions/3334475/git-how-to-update-checkout-a-single-file-from-remote-origin-master may provide hints
10:06:35Zagordoesn't sound like something that easily lends itself to automation
10:07:42Zagoralso, since www commits too are announced here now it will be easy to spot bad commits
10:07:50gevaertsThe second one may work
10:07:58gevaertsi.e. git fetch && git checkout origin/master −− path/to/file
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13:34:15jlbiasinipaumaury: I've seen the mail from geaverts about google summer of code. Wouldn't a touchdevice testing USB interface in uisimulator be a good idea for a project? Or even the implementation of gesture?
13:35:27jlbiasiniI meant pamaury:
13:35:59pamaurynot sure that's enough work
13:36:29jlbiasinikugel: anything more needed in my PLA patches to get them commited?
13:37:03pamauryand that would require the student to have the fuze+
13:37:19pamaury(which he/she could afford of course)
13:38:35jlbiasinipamaury: fuze+ is not the only touch device... And if the first part aims a testing interface, there could be a possibility to control it from usb device or from a laptop's touchpad
13:39:21pamauryafaik, most laptop's touchpad act as a mouse only, there is no way to get the physical position of the finger
13:39:39jlbiasinipamaury: but I have no idea about the quantity of works it need so that's was just an idea so
13:40:01jlbiasinipamaury: well then its dead
13:40:39pamauryimplementing the hid part on the device is quite easy, you just need to get the decriptors right, and using it in the simulator is just a matter of using libusb. It's takes some time but not enough for a whole summer
13:41:06pamaurythat's usually the problem with GSoc, you really need something that will last a summer
13:48:16pamauryperhaps we can include more things together, but it needs to be somwhat consistent, not just a bunch of littles things
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14:44:13odiboTSo how long is rockbox gonna be down?
14:45:35ZagorodiboT: down? www.rockbox.org is very much up
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18:04:23Algiedihello everyone
18:04:32Algiediwhat does a bricked sansa clip zip look like?
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18:19:54Algiedihmm i followed the website's instruction to uninstall rockbox and now i'm getting a black screen urging me to plug the player in
18:20:40*Torne suggests pluggint he player in.
18:21:10Algiediyeah, but what now
18:21:34saratogawhat does the screen say
18:22:23Algiedinothing, it's black
18:22:38Algiedii put the original firmware on there, deleted .rockbox, and nothing special's happening
18:22:53Algiediis there some special manipulation to launch the original firmware again?
18:23:12gevaertsDid you see anything about the original firmware being installed?
18:23:49Algiediwell no, the website instructions say "download zip, unzip it on player, unplug it, wait, DONE"
18:24:50gevaertsReboot the player, and hold LEFT while it boots
18:25:53Algiediaw there's the pwetty logo
18:26:09Algiedii knew i'd read something about a specific manipulation
18:28:21Algiediaaah wonderful, good as new
18:28:27Algiedithanks a lot gevaerts
18:28:46*gevaerts makes a note about reviewing those uninstallation instructions
18:29:31Algiedialso the rockbox utility gave me a 404 error when trying to download the font pack
18:30:43Algiedigot the log somewhere if that's of any help
18:34:48gevaertsAlgiedi: I can reproduce that here, so we shouldn't need your log
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18:36:39gevaertsbluebrother: when installing the font pack on a clip zip (current build), rbutil tries to download http://download.rockbox.org/release/9acd702-120214/rockbox-fonts-9acd702-120214.zip which isn't *quite* correct
18:40:13gevaertsIs this related to the zip not having had a release yet?
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18:41:34saratogadoes checkwps rerun on the theme site automatically, or does someone have to poke it so that themes reappear after the wps fix?
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18:42:57gevaertsbluebrother: rockboxinfo.cpp around line 43 isn't entirely correct any more
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18:43:46gevaertsI guess coordinating with Torne might be useful when he gets the new numbering scheme done
18:43:56Torneyeah i really need to do that
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18:44:03Tornei put my flat on the market this morning though
18:44:12Torneso my free time is still not gonna be that plentiful :p
18:44:38gevaertsTorne: just try to remember that whenever you get around to it, rbutil may need a change :)
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19:41:24pamauryisn't there a website with the main manufacturers logos ? I'm looking for two: a M in a circle and *something* with a "i"
19:48:01saratogaif you have a good picture of it, you could try google image search
19:50:50pamauryhow ?
19:51:50pamauryfound out, it's texas instrument for the "i"
19:51:54bluebrothergevaerts: good catch. Need to give it a bit of a look though −− I've been looking into FS #12587 just yesterday
19:51:55fs-bluebothttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12587 3RBUtil doesn't have right URLs for some files (bugs, unconfirmed)
19:52:33bluebrotherseems there are a couple of things we need to check. IIRC getting the strings to be spoken for voicefile creation is broken right now as well (though it's the script on the server this time)
19:52:33gevaertsbluebrother: I'm guessing it may well be the same bug. I added a note there
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19:53:42Lalufupamaury: micron?
19:53:48bluebrotherno, that's a different bug. The FS entry is caused because I was reworking the URL generation some time ago and forgot that this is done in two places.
19:53:56bluebrotherI've started cleaning that up yesterday
19:53:57pamauryLalufu: might be, thanks
19:54:15bluebrotherand reworking things a bit while at it :)
19:54:19gevaertsok, ignore my note there then :)
19:54:51bluebrotherrbutilqt.cpp has gotten a bit too complex IMO
19:55:35*bluebrother will move the manual stuff into a separate widget
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20:33:38saratogaon the forums someone has noticed that are track skip behavior when autochange directory is enabled is not entirely consistent, but rather in some circumstances changes depending on if you are forward or backward skipping tracks
20:33:47saratogaanyone have a theory how exactly that could happen?
20:35:08bertrikpamaury, motorola for the M in a circle?
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20:41:29bluebrotherBagder: would it be acceptable to have unit tests for Rockbox Utility that download various files from the server (including builds)?
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21:11:39CIA-44Commit 3933afc in rockbox by 03Dominik Riebeling: Make configuration check reusable.
21:11:40CIA-44Commit f7fdf13 in rockbox by 03Dominik Riebeling: Move manual tab contents to separate widget.
21:14:12CIA-44f7fdf13 build result: All green
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22:16:48megal0maniacAnyone know why forum and gerrit won't work?
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22:17:57gevaertsmegal0maniac: both work for me
22:18:51megal0maniacOdd... www. works fine. But forum. and gerrit. fail - as if there's no DNS record. I'll try again...
22:19:18megal0maniacThey're back :/
22:19:48megal0maniacMaybe a DNS hiccup at my ISP
22:19:55*megal0maniac shrugs
22:23:10megal0maniacCool. G'night
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22:35:28webguest17Hi, I'm having an issue with my ipod. It's not loading properly. It's stuck in a weird loading screen, it doesn't even mount
22:36:24n1sit's a lot easier to figure out what's going on with more details, what's on the screen in this "weird loading screen" ?
22:36:58webguest17Pic is being uploaded
22:38:05webguest17The screen looks like the rockbox logo on boot up, but only the edges are the normal backdrop
22:38:18webguest17http://imgur.com/E4srA
22:39:30n1stry putting it in emergency diskmode and check the filesystem
22:40:53webguest17Before I got this error, I got a panic after selecting a theme.
22:41:05webguest17Rebooted into emergency diskmode
22:42:16n1smight be some weird setting combination triggering a bug, if the filesystem checks out, try to rename the config.cfg file in .rockbox to something else to get back to default. If that fixes it please file a bug report and attach the .cfg
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22:45:58webguest17Alright, will do, gonna put the kids to bed and then fsck the bugger
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22:53:17webguest17fs appears to be fine
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22:54:55webguest17conflicting cfg it was. Will file a bug report.
22:55:11webguest17Thanks a million!
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23:10:03saratogawebguest17: if you rebuild the database, does it lock up again?
23:10:48saratogaoh it happened on theme selection, so maybe the db wouldn't matter
23:12:20webguest17Thanks for the suggestion, but it appears the config.cfg was causing the issue. Filed a bug report as requested.
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23:31:31pamaurybertrik: is there a datasheet for the TEA5761UK ?
23:32:58pamauryah I found out something, is there a difference between TEA5760UK and TEA5761UK ? Our driver is for TEA5760UK
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23:39:06shaprHi guys, is there a way to lexicographically order the files in a dynamic playlist?
23:39:22shaprOr is that correct/normal behavior and I should get an updated build for my clip zip?
23:42:40bertrikpamaury, I only have the tea5760 datasheet
23:43:03pamauryI found both on google but I don't know the difference.
23:43:17shaprIn short, when I rebuild the database and all all files by an artist to a playlist, the files seem to play in no particular order.
23:43:37bertrikthe 5760 datasheet says the application software is compatible to the 5761 software
23:43:42shaprI can just use something like find|sort per artist, but that doesn't work for dynamic playlists.
23:43:44bertrikwhatever that means exactly
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23:46:29bertrikour driver will reject a 5761 in the manufacturer / chipid check in tea5760_init
23:46:58bertrikpamaury, what target are you looking at?
23:47:51pamaurycreative zen x-fi, I'm trying to figure out the chips
23:48:11saratogais there a scan of it somewhere?
23:48:12bertrikwe can make the check more lenient to also allows 5761
23:50:00pamaurysaratoga: there is one on anythingbutipod but the quality is rather bad; and by chance I got one that I disassembled and took high-res pictures of
23:50:04bertrikthey look pretty similar at least regarding the register map
23:51:18saratogawhich is the chip you're trying to identify on ABI?
23:51:42pamaurythe only really mysterious chip on this device is what should be the wireless chip, it's the one which looks like gold
23:53:06pamaurythe logo looks like the one of Micron Technology but afaik MT didn't produce wireless chips
23:53:34saratogai can't even really make out the lettering on the ABI page
23:53:52pamaury0013E0 CB226C 3VFFC3 LBWA-LC
23:54:12pamaury(that's the numbering of the photos I have)
23:55:09bertrikpamaury, do you have a link to the image?
23:55:26pamaurywait a minute, I'll upload a cut
23:56:30saratoga"WLAN Module Value Line Item - IEEE802.11b/g "
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23:57:25saratogaby Murata
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