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#rockbox log for 2012-02-26

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00:31:37 Join Lope_s [0] (Lopes44@41-133-229-144.dsl.mweb.co.za)
00:32:30Lope_sI've used RB on my Sandisk Sansa Clip+ for about a year and love it. I've just installed the latest RB on my Sandisk Sansa Fuze V2 and I'm AWE STRUCK with how awesome it is :)
00:32:49Lope_sbut how do I get USB mass storage working on RB firmware?
00:33:03Lope_sI looked in settings and couldn't find anything about USB.
00:33:11[Saint]Depends what you mean by "latest".
00:33:20Lope_sits plugged into the PC and now showing up
00:33:37Lope_s3.10
00:33:47[Saint]The release build still doesn't support USB.
00:34:11Lope_soh.. the page seems to indicate that 3.10 supports USB on Fuze V2 and Clip+?
00:34:31Lope_shttp://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaAMS#AMSv2_issues_40Fuzev2_44_Clipv2_44_Clip_43_44_ClipZip_41:
00:34:42Lope_s"USB was enabled after the release of 3.10. Either upgrade to the current build to get USB, or reboot into the Sandisk firmware for USB transfers in 3.10."
00:34:51[Saint]You need a current build, and a git head bootloader.
00:35:05[Saint]USB was enabled *after*...
00:35:06Lope_show do I load that?
00:35:15Lope_si just went with 'complete install' (i see)
00:35:41Lope_sI must be on a release. how do I upgrade to a current build?
00:36:35[Saint]Current build is freely available from RBUtil, or the website. Bootloader you'll need to find elsewhere or compile yourself (neither officially supported).
00:36:36Lope_sI bought a refurbished fuze, the home button doesn't do anything. Is that normal or is my fuze defective?
00:36:57Lope_sso I can't install the git head bootloader with RButil?
00:37:04[Saint]No.
00:37:32gevaertsThe bootloader isn't that important
00:37:42Lope_sso I don't need the git head bootloader?
00:37:53Lope_sI'm not good with compiling stuff.
00:37:54[Saint]It is if you want bootloader USB...but, yeah, good point.
00:38:21gevaertsThe only difference it makes is that it will boot rockbox instead of the OF when plugging in
00:38:22Lope_sI just want to be able to copy stuff to the fuze2 while its in RB.
00:38:46Lope_shmm
00:38:56Lope_sso is there a pre-compiled git head bootloader?
00:39:20Lope_scos I'm probably gonna run the player plugged in permanently
00:39:36Lope_sI don't want to have to plug and unplug constantly. OF sucks.
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00:40:17Lope_sokay nevermind
00:40:35[Saint]I think you've misunderstood. If it will always be plugged in, always using Rockbox, the current build alone will be fine.
00:40:36Lope_sit looks like I don't need git head bootloader. I just shut down and plugged in USB cable. It went directly to RB.
00:41:21Lope_sI must have misunderstood then. Okay the default RB bootloader I have is fine. Now how do I install current build
00:42:22jlbiasinikugel: it's raining PLA! :D
00:43:36Lope_sI've got RB installed
00:43:54Lope_sif I ask RBUtil to install the current build is that okay, or do I need to uninstall RB first?
00:44:04[Saint]That's fine.
00:44:09Lope_sokay
00:44:11Lope_sthanks :)
00:44:30Lope_sexcited!!!
00:44:45Lope_salso excited to have the current build on my Clip+ and have USB support.
00:45:03Lope_sare you a RB dev?
00:45:41gevaertsjlbiasini: I'm wondering why you're sending development-related mails to the user mailing list
00:46:31jlbiasinioups
00:46:42Lope_sOMG U GUYS ROCK SO HARD!!!!!!!
00:46:45Lope_shahaha
00:46:49Lope_sthis is amazing!
00:46:50jlbiasiniI suppose I mix it :(
00:47:08jlbiasinithx for noticing
00:47:15[Saint]That's a great review Lope_s :)
00:47:56jlbiasini:D typical
00:48:43Lope_srockbox makes me do this :D
00:48:43Lope_shaha
00:49:02Lope_sI seriously could not buy a MP3 player for like 10-15 years
00:49:04Lope_sthey all sucked.
00:49:47Lope_sI heard about rockbox, loved the concept, but the available players with decent capacity were still bulky and sounded unreliable.
00:50:17Lope_sthen sandisk made the clip+ with microSD support (and fairly decent OF), and there was RB support. I jumped on it.
00:50:23Lope_sstoked ever since.
00:50:59Lope_sone of the best things is no FAT32 mode (no ID3 tags) and all the audio tweaks, and the themeing is nice too.
00:51:37Lope_sthe fuze interface is blowing my mind right now. best $32 I ever spent. Got a refurb fuze v2 2GB on amazon. Will add a 32GB card (will dbl check if it supports it first)
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00:52:09[Saint]It does. Rockbox does, the OF probably doesn't.
00:53:25Lope_soh, I see the player does respond a little bit to the home button. but not much.
00:53:40Lope_sthe home button used to function like a back button in menus. Now it seems to hardly do anything.
00:53:46Lope_sis that intentional?
00:53:57saratogai htink the current bootloader release is up to date?
00:54:05saratogashouldn't need to compile anything, nothing has changed as far as I know
00:54:55[Saint]saratoga: yeah, figured that out in community. Wasn't aware there was a new release.
00:55:02saratogaLope_s: i changed HOme to go back to the WPS/Radio from the main menu an hour ago
00:55:06[Saint]Interesting there was one, actually.
00:55:06saratogaor two hours ago rather
00:55:34Lope_sdon't worry about the bootloader comments. saint said something that made me think I need a non-default git boot loader in order to have RB run all the time, even when plugging in USB cable. But default RB bootloader is working perfect!
00:55:40Lope_smisunderstanding.
00:55:56[Saint]The misunderstanding proved mine.
00:55:56Lope_ssaratoga: whats WPS?
00:56:06saratogawhile playing screen
00:56:16Lope_sah yes. good change!
00:56:19Lope_svery good.
00:56:29saratogayes it was a common complaint
00:56:32JdGordongevaerts: I've just push patch 8 to the lcd task which fixes mr500-sim, can you test on target please?
00:56:49JdGordonand thanks kugel for the obvious fix :) (not sarcasm there)
00:56:59Lope_ssaratoga: it doesn't seem to work.
00:57:10saratogai just tried and it works for me
00:57:14JdGordonKiwiCam: no, filenames are static so you couldnt use them with a count tag
00:57:26Lope_sI've got a mp3 playing. If i go into settings (for example) and press home, nothing happens. I've just loaded the current build a few mins ago
00:57:30saratogawe should really clean up the install directions in the manual
00:57:40saratogaits a huge amount of words right now, a lot of which could probably go into other sections
00:57:55saratogaLope_s: the change only works from the main menu
00:58:07saratogai didn't change it on other screens, since most of them have their own keymappings
00:58:09Lope_soh, why not make it work from all menus?
00:58:18Lope_scos it seems to do nothing in most menus
00:58:28Lope_sbetter that it does something rather than nothing? :-)
00:58:36saratogai just tried it in settings and currently it takes you back to the main menu
00:58:51saratogawhich i think makes more sense, since the main menu is really the closest thing we have to a "home"
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00:59:00Lope_sin settings, pressing it now, its not doing anything
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00:59:25saratogaare you running the current build?
00:59:30saratogait definitely does something
00:59:36Lope_sI've got 077e8b6-120225
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01:00:16saratogano idea then
01:00:53Lope_swhat are apps coded in on RB? C?
01:00:59Lope_show do you get to doom?
01:01:10saratogamostly c, 1 or 2 use lua though
01:01:10Lope_soh, sorry, being a tool. plugins.
01:01:14*[Saint] suggests reading our fine manual.
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01:01:54Lope_sHAHAHAHAH boomshine!!!
01:01:59Lope_sthis is too much.
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01:03:34saratogadoes anyone know what keymap the time menu would use? it seems weird
01:05:04Lope_syou can actually play doom on this thing.
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01:05:30Lope_sits like as much fun as doom 15 years ago.
01:05:37Lope_swithout strafing its a bit limited
01:05:46Lope_sbut not much you can do with these buttons.
01:06:17Lope_sare there any nice buttons to hack? I read somewhere the connector under the player has line out. Any other juicy stuff?
01:06:34saratogatheres no connector on the clip+, only USB
01:06:42Lope_sI've got the fuze
01:06:44Lope_salso
01:06:52Lope_sI just got the fuze now.
01:07:12saratogathen yes, that has line out and maybe a serial port type thing as well
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01:07:28Lope_sany idea where to get a cable with all the pins?
01:07:45[Saint]SanDisk?
01:07:59saratogasparkfun sells breakout boards I believe
01:08:28[Saint]The stock cable has all the pins, they're just not wired.
01:08:28Lope_sreheheheaaally
01:08:48Lope_soh, i've found companies often leave out the pins also.
01:09:04Lope_syeah just looked
01:09:08Lope_sits got a LOT of pins
01:09:43Lope_sunfortunately ebay doesn't even have cables that include USB and line out.
01:09:44saratogahttp://www.podgizmo.com/p/100/sansabreakout-board
01:10:48Lope_sbroken link.
01:11:16Lope_swooooo
01:11:18Lope_shttp://shop.kineteka.com/Products/100-sansabreakout.aspx
01:11:24gevaertsJdGordon: that does indeed fix the mr500
01:11:27[Saint]The link is fine.
01:11:35JdGordongevaerts: thanks
01:12:17Lope_ssaint: oh, you're right.
01:14:16[Saint]Lope_s: you really don't want a big, ugly, fragile breakout board for this.
01:14:41[Saint]Butcher an existing cable, you really want strain relief for this.
01:14:42Lope_shmm 2 video + pins, must be S-Video?
01:14:47Lope_sS video has luma and chroma.
01:15:07Lope_ssaint: the problem is an existing cable doesn't have line AND power...?
01:15:15Lope_sI want both.
01:16:14[Saint]So add it? All you want is the connector, the cable is pretty much irrelevant.
01:17:39Lope_si'm actually building my fuze into a fixed unit
01:17:43Lope_sso I can use that breakout
01:18:00Lope_salthough I've got a cheap cable on the way that I bought on ebay
01:18:15Lope_sso I'll dremel it and see how easily I can solder the pins.
01:18:38Lope_sI've got a fine temp controlled iron etc. but they're pretty tightly spaced.
01:19:12[Saint]Even an iPod cable will do....you can usually get them for free from second hand stores.
01:19:33Lope_sdoes the fuze use an ipod cable?
01:19:50Lope_soh of course, so it can work in iPod docks?
01:20:00[Saint]If.you're changing the pinout, iPod cable is fine. Just *don't* plug a stock iPod cable in and try power it.
01:20:26Lope_shehe okay
01:20:43[Saint]You *will* kill the player that way, the iPod pinout is completely different, but the connection is exactly the same.
01:21:31Lope_slegendary, found nicer breakouts cheaper. http://www.ebay.com/sch/?_kw=ipod%20breakout&_clu=2&_fcid=185&_localstpos=&_stpos=&gbr=1
01:22:13Lope_sweird that its *compltely* different but same connector
01:22:20Lope_ssurely it must share USB, power and line?
01:22:35Lope_ssansa probably chose this connector so the fuze would work in iPod docks?
01:22:48[Saint]No. And it doesn't.
01:23:00Lope_shehe, weird?
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01:23:43[Saint]No. Its not an "iPod" or "sansa" thing. Its just a standard connection.
01:24:00[Saint]Companies wire them as they wish.
01:25:47Lope_sthanks for all the great info :)
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01:45:30KiwiCamJdGordon: OK. Any chance the Count feature might be worth implementing anyway?
01:46:47[Saint]"worth implementing" != "will be implemented" != "time to implement" ;)
01:48:06[Saint]Mr Gordon is a busy man of late.
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03:01:08KiwiCam[Saint]: No pressure for that one. So, how do I use this %ss thing now?
03:01:32[Saint]Now?
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03:04:34JdGordonKiwiCam: add ", number" to the end of %ss()
03:05:51[Saint]Well...not literally the end, yeah
03:05:55[Saint]?
03:06:06[Saint]Within the bounds of () no?
03:06:39JdGordonyes
03:08:20KiwiCamSo, if I want the current value of %ss(0,1,%cS)? ie it' on the 54th second and I am expecting to see 5.
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03:10:16GreyMoonsHi.
03:10:37GreyMoonsI tried installing rockbox on my clip+, everything seemed to be going fine.. unpluged it.. new ui works after it updated..
03:10:58GreyMoonsbut now im getting failed to install device when I plug it in and its not appearing as a drive or anything under 'my computer'
03:11:27GreyMoonsRunning windows 7 x64..
03:12:25saratogaGreyMoons: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaAMS#AMSv2_issues_40Fuzev2_44_Clipv2_44_Clip_43_44_ClipZip_41:
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03:14:01GreyMoonsUh, So I need to upgrade it?
03:14:08GreyMoonsHow do I do that if I can't access it anymore?...
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03:15:17[Saint]We have dual-boot, you can still access it.
03:15:28[Saint]The manual explains this.
03:15:29saratogahow did you find out about rockbox anyway?
03:16:23GreyMoonsFriend told me about it.
03:17:03saratogaand you already had a clip+?
03:17:08saratogaor did you buy one to try it
03:17:38GreyMoonsI bought a clip+ based on his recommendation and then put rockbox on it after he told me to after I whined about how slow it was to transfer data to the sd card
03:18:09saratogaah ok
03:18:23GreyMoonsSo I figured out the dual boot thing.
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03:19:04GreyMoonsNow im wondering what I do with clipplus01.02.16.zip to install it?
03:19:11KiwiCamOhhh %ss(o,1,%cS,number) Doh!
03:19:37GreyMoonsErrr
03:19:41GreyMoonsno thats the origional firmware
03:19:47GreyMoonsrockbox-sansaclipplus.zip
03:20:24saratogatheres install directions in the manual, or you can just use rockbox utility
03:20:58GreyMoonsYea I just used the rockbox utility and my USB no longer works
03:21:11GreyMoonshow do I get to install the latest build?
03:21:20GreyMoonsjust extract it to the folder and run it again?
03:21:57[Saint]KiwiCam: no, %ss(0,1,%cS,number)
03:22:01[Saint];)
03:22:19GreyMoonsNevermind...
03:23:01*GreyMoons trys 'archived build'
03:24:10GreyMoonsMaybe im being whiny, but somehow I think 'totaly disabled usb interface' bugfix kinda needs to be in the 'stable' release.
03:25:10KiwiCamJdGordon: Thanks for that. I am not disappoint. If only I could remember what it is I wanted it for... ;)
03:25:24[Saint]So...we go back in time and re-release?
03:25:28[Saint];)
03:26:02GreyMoonsWhat, you'v never ninjaed out a release in violation of what really happened? :)
03:26:38GreyMoonsI consider myself lucky when they don't tell me "Yea update to version X" "im using verion X" "Yea we uploaded a new version X yesterday" "..."
03:26:44saratogaUSB hasn't worked for 2 years on the clip+
03:26:50GreyMoons... What? damnit.
03:26:54[Saint]There's been point releases, sure. But until today it wasn't apparent this was broken.
03:27:25GreyMoonssaratoga: .. Joy, Now its changed from working (And charging?) while pluged in to just showing a huge USB plug icon, but still no drive showing up.
03:27:29[Saint]It should boot to the OF for USB,current bootloader doesn't.
03:27:34saratogawe still only have a mostly working USB driver
03:28:39GreyMoonsYea now unpluging it freezes it up...
03:29:20GreyMoonsGasp it showed up as drives this time?
03:29:41GreyMoonsAnd did'nt freeze up on unplug..
03:30:09GreyMoonsI used to hate it when things fix themselfs. Then I realised thats easyer then me having to fix it myself.
03:31:07saratogayeah, like i said, the current driver isn't fully stable
03:31:20saratogaalthough it works quite well for most people
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03:31:37GreyMoonsK. For the record im getting about 3.9~4MB/s on transfer to external SD card..
03:31:55saratogathat sounds about right
03:31:56GreyMoonsNot sure if thats any faster then the origional firmware.. oh well.
03:32:12GreyMoonsIm sure my view transfered files to the SD much faster..
03:32:37GreyMoonsBut then that craped out after 7 months into an unending reboot loop, and I was sick of it refreshing media on every reboot/unplug/card swap.
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03:37:55GreyMoons[Saint]: Overall pertty impressed with the firmware so far though.
03:39:44[Saint]Good to hear.
03:40:58[Saint]Welcome to Rockbox.
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03:53:20GreyMoonsthx
03:54:02GreyMoonsAnd thanks for not refreshing my media every time a fly farts in the general direction of my usb player.
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04:00:29[Saint]If you use the Database, and enable auto-refresh...it will still do so.
04:00:58[Saint]It just won't make you sit through it at boot ;)
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04:06:37GreyMoons[Saint]: hehe.
04:13:12GreyMoonsFair enough.
04:15:56GreyMoonsomg
04:16:01GreyMoonsforce mono AND a signal strength indicator?
04:16:05GreyMoonsyou guys fucking rock.
04:16:19GreyMoonsMoreso for using a real unit
04:17:24GreyMoonsNow if I only had more then 5 stations here above 35DbuV
04:17:35GreyMoonserr dBuV
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04:52:36enthdegreewhat does it take to get a rockbox cloak?
04:55:32enthdegreeykw im going to implement ln, e^n, atan, etc. in the calculator, this should be trivial
04:59:50saratogayou mean on IRC?
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05:00:51enthdegreeYes, the hostmask
05:03:34saratogai think its given to people who get write access to the source code repository
05:03:39saratogaat least thats how i got it
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05:04:24enthdegreeheavens, that must take a load of effort
05:04:51[Saint]Not really, no.
05:05:28saratogahang out a lot and submit patches people like
05:08:42[Saint]Well...hang out a lot and submit patches people like and submit enough of them that people eventually get sick of committing for you ;)
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08:52:35JdGordon[Saint_]: MAAAAYTE! how can i bribe you to do cabbie landscae for touchpad, and one for the GN? :)
08:56:43[Saint_]Heh...despite fun in *-community, its not a bribery thing...its more a "round toit" thing. And yeah, I know I've got to get to it, I've been really slack.
08:57:33JdGordonif only we had a usable theme editor it wouldnt be such a bithc to get the viewports correct
08:57:46JdGordonI've started the touchpad one but i need to fiddle to get the button bar out of the way
08:57:54JdGordon(android utton bar overlaps the cabbie one)
08:58:06[Saint_]I need to re-do *all* the images, and I've been avoiding it. The ones in use at the moment are really just placeholders that didn't end up looking as shit as I thought.
08:59:38[Saint_]Re: viewports, even with the theme editor my preferred method was/is to get sizing and placement right in plain old MS Paint (or similar).
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09:01:34JdGordonand apparently the lcd changes patch works on adnroid also which is nice
09:01:42JdGordonI think I'll push that pretty soon
09:01:54JdGordonthen we can hopefully get Zagor looking into scaling again :)
09:02:02[Saint_]Oh nice.
09:03:27JdGordonif we get scaling then we really only need 2 or 3 different cabbie versions
09:03:40JdGordon(well for RaaA anyway)
09:04:24*[Saint_] nods.
09:04:37JdGordonportaight, landscape, low dpi portaight is probably all
09:05:38[Saint_]I'm wondering if I can use negative viewport x,y to pin objects to the corners of a viewport?
09:07:10JdGordonyes
09:07:44[Saint_]I'm thinking the answer is probably no. But with such a thing, and viewports that scale automagically you could always frame ui items nicely.
09:07:54[Saint_]Oh, yes? Hmmm.
09:08:09JdGordonpretty sure thats been there since the begining of time!
09:08:45JdGordonyep, x,y,w,h all take negative numbers
09:09:02[Saint_]I knew you could do negative values, but the viewport dimensions would need to be known beforehand to pin an item to a corner, no?
09:09:34[Saint_]That's the part that makes the idea "interesting".
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09:11:57JdGordonsure, but whats hard aboiut that?
09:12:36JdGordonhmm... umm
09:12:39[Saint_]If the viewport is dynamically scaled, how can you possibly hard-code the values you'd need?
09:13:12[Saint_]Its a silly idea, don't put too much thought into it :)
09:13:25JdGordondepdns what you want to do
09:13:52JdGordonbut yeah, if you know your viewport is 100px then -100,y,-,height will always stick it on the right
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09:14:28JdGordondoes te alignmnet tags work with viewports?
09:14:38JdGordonprobably not
09:14:46[Saint_]Nup.
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09:24:57JdGordonthe other annoying issue with RaaA is the different base folder name in the zips
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10:23:06KiwiCamJdGordon: How long to I have to wait until the %ss comes through on the current build? I note that %ss (not using the ,number) doesn't pick up the values %pb %bs tags. I've tried %cS, %cY, %bv and they work.
10:24:26KiwiCamAlso. Guys. How do I find the Sleep timer menu in the Current build? It was under Settings/Time and Date, but I'll be darned if I can find it.
10:24:32[Saint]Wait...what? If it was committed over an hour or so ago, which it was, its built.
10:25:08KiwiCamWhat about the Sim?
10:25:18[Saint]Same.
10:25:38KiwiCamI'll try it again...
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10:31:27KiwiCamV 9c21258-120220 - That's the lastest isn't it?
10:33:21[Saint]I'm on my phone, check against the commit list.
10:35:37KiwiCamIt's me. I'm not grabbing the latest build. Is this the correct link? rasher.dk/rockbox/simulator-3.9/">http://rasher.dk/rockbox/simulator-3.9/
10:37:08KiwiCamhttp://www.rockbox.org/daily.shtml << Found it.
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10:40:08SzatanI have Fuze+ and my system don't read a SD card via my Fuze+. On memory card reader works.
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10:54:06KiwiCam[Saint_]: Is that here? http://build.rockbox.org/dev.cgi I'm lost. I've tried both the Sim build and this one http://build.rockbox.org/ Both have the same reference 077e8b6 but they're not working for me, as in the %ss Am I still looking in the wrong place?
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11:05:06lorenzo92kugel: how is my fm radio patch in general? I mean, is it quite ready to merge?
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11:09:04lorenzo92I would say, the only thing to check is the IRQ handler in the module: is it really needed? Can we set it up into rockbox directly (yes, right?)?
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11:25:33jdgordkiwicam: its in the current build already
11:27:02KiwiCamjdgord: Then I can't be grabbing the correct download link.
11:27:32jdgordIf specific tags don't work then that's a different issue
11:27:38jdgordU said some work though?
11:28:16jdgordAnd what? If u want it as a number you have to add the number param
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11:38:45[Saint_]Wait....120220 wasn't a hint?
11:38:56[Saint_]Nooooo....no no no.
11:39:08[Saint_]That's pretty damn far from "latest".
11:39:49[Saint_]Year month day *is* backwards for us kiwis, but, yeah...that's ages old.
11:40:00[Saint_]No wonder its not working.
11:40:35KiwiCam[Saint_]: As I said. I must be looking in the wrong place. Where is the daily build area?
11:40:50KiwiCamI did ask.
11:41:40KiwiCamIsn't this it? http://www.rockbox.org/daily.shtml
11:41:44[Saint_]You also said you found it...
11:42:29[Saint_]If you contradict yourself, I can't guess what one you meant to be valid still :)
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11:45:13KiwiCamI got the same file from two locations. Both have the same 077e86b6 reference and of course the 120220. I don't know where the correct download link is.
11:45:31[Saint_]If the "daily" sim is given you anything other than ******25 or *********26, something is broken.
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11:46:18KiwiCamThen the daily build link is down too.
11:47:13KiwiCamAnyway :) Time for a break. I'll try again tomorrow. Good night all.
11:47:24[Saint_]I'm not sure if we do current sim builds...don't see why not.
11:48:02[Saint_]Daily == built once daily, current == per commit/commit-streak
11:49:52gevaerts[Saint_]: which sim builds would we do?
11:50:11kugel[Saint_]: why do you need to redo *all* images?
11:50:36kugelare the ones in svn (in wps/cabbiev2/sources) not fine enough?
11:51:11[Saint_]kugel: misunderstanding, "redo from source", not "redo completely"
11:51:35kugelah ok :)
11:54:00[Saint_]gevaerts: seems I was mistaken. And KiwiCam's wording didn't help. More than once I managed to parse he was getting sim builds from the daily page.
11:54:18KiwiCamStill here. So, what time tomorrow, NZ time, would the next daily build be ready?
11:54:41[Saint_]When they're ready, but, there wont be a sim build.
11:55:10gevaertsThe only sim builds I'm aware of are rasher's
11:55:15KiwiCamI'm not familiar with these terms Guys. :(
11:55:17[Saint_]Sim builds are provided by rasher, because he's awesome.
11:55:26[Saint_]Nit by the build system.
11:55:30[Saint_]*not too
11:55:51KiwiCamRasher = Awesome
11:56:36KiwiCamI wish I could use the Clip Sim on my Android. For making themes while I'm working.
11:57:47[Saint_]rasher's builds *should* be more current than they are, but his build system has been having issues lately. The android builds are delayed by approximately the same amount.
11:58:10[Saint_]When I say "should" it's really more "would be nice if"
11:58:28[Saint_]As it's a thing he's doing out of awesomeness.
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13:52:35JdGordondoes anyone have some of the more exotic targets? things without colour screens (including rmeotes?)
13:52:55gevaertsI have a h120 with remote somewhere
13:53:19JdGordoncan you give it a test when you find time please?
13:53:37gevaertsJust run some stuff with your lcd patch?
13:53:54JdGordonpretty much it will either work or it wont
13:54:01JdGordonso just turning it on shold be enough of a test
13:54:17*gevaerts nods
13:54:42gevaertsYes, you're probably at such a low level that details don't matter much
13:57:02JdGordonyeah, pretty much
13:57:29JdGordonI would like to get this in before the freeze, and going by the testing thats happeniend I don't tihnk that is unliekly
13:57:44JdGordonunless we decide its too big to happen this close to freeze (which would be annoying but whatever)
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14:02:43gevaertsWell, the way I read it the freeze period has only been proposed, not announced :)
14:04:29JdGordonsure, but in the past people have complained about any changes happening close to the freeze once its been proposed
14:04:54JdGordonwhich basically means we should just tag today as the release branch and move on ?:p
14:05:19n1sIMO it's annoying when people know the freeze date for a long time and still wait till the last few days befor to do big changes
14:06:08n1snow the freeze date was suggested today so it's not like you are doing that
14:06:33gevaertsJdGordon: h120+LCD remote seems to work fine
14:06:56*gevaerts agrees
14:07:39gevaertsI also think the reason for a freeze is to allow for changes up to the time of the freeze. If we'd have an unofficial freeze before the freeze, we could branch instead of freezing at that time
14:08:27gevaertsThat's not to say I wouldn't have doubts about something buflib-sized two hours before the freeze :)
14:09:22gevaertsBut if I understand these lcd changes correctly, I don't see them having hidden hard to spot bugs, so I don't see a problem
14:12:38AlexPI have no objection to things going in up to the freeze, as that is what the freeze is
14:13:56JdGordoncool, so i'll give it another day or two for more testing and feedback
14:14:22JdGordonthen we beg someone to figure out how to best do dynamic sizing/scaling :)
14:14:34JdGordonmaybe 3.12 can be 4.0 and a real RaaAAAA release
14:37:05amiconnBagder/ Zagor: What happened to the "Code changes" order on the front page?
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15:55:16fmlHello. I'm have problems with uploading a patch to gerrit. When I do "git push origin HEAD:refs/for/master" I get an error message stating that the email in the commit does not match the mail address registered on gerrit. How do I fix that? I tried git −−amend, but it did not help.
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15:57:15gevaertsfml: did you set your name and email up as described in http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/UsingGit#Preparing_to_make_changes ?
15:59:12fmlgevaerts: yes, I set all the params as described in wiki. The file ~/.gitconfig contains the correct values.
15:59:18bluebrotherfml: if the commit contains the wrong author you need to use git −−amend −−reset-author, otherwise the author is not changed during amending
15:59:48CIA-44Commit a532b60 in rockbox by 03Dominik Riebeling: (Author: Jean-Louis Biasini) Rockbox Utility: update french translation
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16:00:53fmlbluebrother: just did that, but it didn't help
16:01:51bluebrothermaybe there's a case issue? Had that myself, gerrit is case sensitive on emails
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16:04:42bluebrothergevaerts: I want to push a new Rockbox Utility tonight. What should we do about the mkamsboot issue?
16:07:57gevaertsbluebrother: I suspect it's a simple change, but I'm not 100% sure if there are interdependencies between the bootloader file on the server and the code in mkamsboot...
16:08:22gevaertsI think it would be best to revert that change, but someone who knows mkamsboot should do that
16:08:56bluebrotherif there is a dependency (which, as far as I can see from the code is) there should be a better solution.
16:09:27gevaertskugel, funman: can you comment on this?
16:09:31bluebrotherinterestingly the RockboxUtility wiki page even advertises the "now boots Rockbox on USB" as change ...
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18:42:07AlexPbluebrother: Your point in your email was a good one, this sort of thing shouldn't be in rbutil. We shouldn't need a new rbutil release to change bootloader behaviour, nor should how it works depend on what version of rbutil you are using. My preference would be to delay the release if it is possible to make rbutil get the info/code (a binary blob maybe, along with md5sum or similar) from the server. If that is not doable in the timeframe then I'd favour
18:42:07AlexPreverting this change in the rbutil release.
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19:41:57shanttuHi. Need help troubleshooting why reading sd card doesn't work with Sansa Clip +. Rockbox 3.10. Freshly installed bootloader and formated (fat32) sd card A-Data 8gb.
19:42:12shanttuBoot stucks to logo-screen.
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19:45:55bluebrotherAlexP: problem is that I'd really like to get the SAPI related fix out −− it's been broken for almost 2 years now :(
19:46:28bluebrotherOTOH I can wait with a release. Though I fear that fixing things properly will take a while because of people being busy.
19:46:35bluebrotherat least I'd expect that.
19:48:43bluebrotherwe got customizable menus? :o
19:49:44jlbiasiniI'm working on having PLA for vu_meter. The buttons are really easy to configure, but the code also define the name of each key for the help screen (example: #define LABEL_QUIT "Back" ) is there anyway I could have the precompiler retreiving such imformation from the main pluginlib_action.c file?
19:50:18bluebrotherjlbiasini: not from a c file.
19:51:22jlbiasinithen from a latex one pehraps? it could retrieve it from the manual?
19:52:16bluebrotherurgh
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19:52:25jlbiasinithat would not make the implementation on new target eaasier, if we have to write the manual before the code :D
19:52:38bluebrotherif I'd rather have the manual retrieve strings from the sources, not th eother way round
19:52:49MrFrosthey lorenzo)
19:52:55jlbiasiniof course!
19:53:01lorenzo92MrFrost: hi! ;)
19:53:02MrFrostcheck my updated theme)
19:53:09MrFrostnow with radio!
19:53:12lorenzo92oh! nice!!
19:53:20bluebrotherit would break things a lot if someone changes a string in the manual without being aware that it affects Rockbox, i.e. the main thing
19:53:44jlbiasiniYeah it was just a joke!
19:54:15MrFrostthanks for uploading test build to abi
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19:55:08*bluebrother would be careful with this kind of jokes −− he's seen people doing all kind of stupid things "integrating" code with something else
19:55:34jlbiasiniI guess I could move all those label define in the pla code itself
19:55:40kugellorenzo92: I haven't actually tried the FM radio patch yet. no time
19:55:57lorenzo92kugel: okay, no problem :)
19:56:01*jlbiasini it might became TOO funny :D
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19:57:11lorenzo92MrFrost: uhm I just updated your theme to the device but doesn't show the fm ui!
19:57:18MrFrostkugel: you are working on rockbox 3.11?
19:57:45kugelwhat do you mean?
19:57:57MrFrostlorenzo: forgot to mention that radio requires 21-adobe-helvetica
19:57:58kugelI'm working on rockbox in general
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19:58:26MrFrosti thought that 3.11 will be avaible soon
19:58:36lorenzo92MrFrost: I have it!
19:58:37MrFrostand you're working hard on it
19:58:49MrFrosthm
19:58:54kugelwe all do
19:59:06bertrikMrFrost, yes, we even have a gmail release calendar IIRC
19:59:16lorenzo92MrFrost: idea...
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20:00:14lorenzo92MrFrost: okay no worry, I was simply wrong: forgot to reload theme ^^
20:00:20MrFrostlorenzo: hm no idea yet
20:00:45lorenzo92yeah read before, solved ;)
20:00:45MrFrostso now it's ok?
20:00:48lorenzo92yes yes
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20:01:28lorenzo92great, I like it, but now better to stay in the development topic :)
20:02:19lorenzo92MrFrost: top rated, anyway :D
20:02:28MrFrostthanks =)
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20:03:32fmlJdGordon: Hey! Please look at and take care of FS #12599 and FS #12600
20:03:33fs-bluebothttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12599 3Manual: Describe how to restore the default main menu (patches, new)
20:03:33fs-bluebothttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12600 3Rename the setting variable telling whether the main menu has been customized (patches, new)
20:04:44jlbiasinibluebrother: can I assume that if I convert the plugin into PLA it would get automatic keymaps and manual documentation about it. And therefore no longer needs help menu in the plugin that reminds keymaps?
20:04:59fmlIf I have committed a change to my local git repository and now try to upload it to gerrit, what email address is compared against the one registered on gerrit? I.e. where is the local user id stored? In the commit? Or in the git config?
20:06:24*jlbiasini would will leave vu_meter in peace for the moment
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20:07:30kugelfml: you can add emails to your gerrit account
20:08:32fmlkugel: I did. I also think to have configured git so that it uses (or knows) the same mail address. But I have problems uploading to gerrit.
20:09:26fmlWhen uploading, I get an error message where another mail address occurs (the one I don't have; it has my linux user it as the front part)
20:09:57n1swhat did you set in your git config?
20:10:19bluebrotherfml: sounds like you need to change the mail address in your git clone
20:10:21n1sthe commit probably uses the adress it had at the moment the commit was made
20:10:34bluebrothertry git config -l and look for the offending mail address :)
20:10:36lorenzo92kugel: later I will resync the patch against last version (because I've seen some power management rewrite about radio) and try to put it onto gerrit :)
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20:11:14fmlbluebrother: I already did "git amend reset-author" −− with no positive effect
20:11:32fmlHow can I see what mail address is "stored" in the commit?
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20:12:00bluebrotherI assume you used git commit −−amend −−reset-author? ;-)
20:12:47fmln1s: I configured git as described in UsingGit. My file ~/.gitconfig contains correct user name and mail address
20:13:07bluebrothertry git show −−pretty=fuller
20:13:14fmlbluebrother: yes, I did that, have typed out of my head
20:13:17bluebrotherthat shows both committer and author mail address
20:13:38n1sfml: does git config -l reflect that? and was it always set this way?
20:14:44fmln1s: I'm on a different system now, so can't look. But IIRC, I configure git first, before making any changes, so the values must have been there at the time of commit
20:15:41fmlAnyway, I uploaded the two changes I wanted to upload to gerrit to FS (as FS #12599 and FS #12600)
20:15:42fs-bluebothttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12599 3Manual: Describe how to restore the default main menu (patches, new)
20:15:42fs-bluebothttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12600 3Rename the setting variable telling whether the main menu has been customized (patches, new)
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20:35:06KiwiCamMorning Folks.
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20:39:53jlbiasinigood evening! :D
20:46:55KiwiCamJdGordon: The current Build pages is now showing ee1f54c for the clip physical. Your changes are working on that. Thanks. Except I'm still not getting any value displaying for %pb and %bs. %ss(0.2,%cS) with and without the ",number" and also %cM & %bv work. As for the Sim build, I'll just keep an eye on the until it updates.
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23:35:41CIA-44Commit 9f48f5f in rockbox by 03Jonathan Gordon: root menu: Use - to reset the root menu order from a config
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23:38:52lebelliumJdGordon: is there any way with the latest tags you introduced to get the vertical scrolling bar in SBS a different color as the text ?
23:39:43lebelliumI mean if the text in SBS is black, the scrolling bar is necessarily black atm
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