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#rockbox log for 2012-03-18

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00:04:33CIA-44Commit 84c6dda in rockbox v3.11 by 03Szymon Dziok: Correct polish translation.
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08:56:49KiwiCamI need a bit of help please: If Shuffle is active, and Repeat mode is greater than 0 (OFF) then alternate %t(x.x) between the Shuffle Icon and the Repeat Icon. Otherwise if Repeat is active then show the Repeat Icon, otherwise if Shuffle is active only, then show that.
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09:07:30[Saint]Wait...that contradicts itself.
09:07:51[Saint]if repeat is active, do foo, otherwise if repeat is active?
09:07:59[Saint]Can you not see the problem there?
09:09:13JdGordonno it isnt
09:09:20JdGordonI dont see why that is hard to implement thouhg
09:09:26[Saint]I think I know what you want, but, you'll need to word it a lot better lest I just assume.
09:10:22[Saint]how does that not contradict itself? "if repeat is active, do foo, otherwise, if repeat is active, do foo"
09:10:25JdGordon%?and(%ps, %pr)<alternate|%?ps<shuffle only>%?pr<repeat only>)
09:10:52JdGordonreread mate... shuffle+repeat is the first line
09:11:05[Saint]Ah...whoops.
09:11:09JdGordon:)
09:11:16JdGordonKiwiCam: see my answer above
09:11:49[Saint]did you fudge the repeat tag, or was that deliberate?
09:11:59[Saint]repeat == %mm
09:13:33[Saint]%pr is time remaining, iirc.
09:13:44[Saint]Unless I massively messed up again.
09:16:16JdGordonyes, i was making a guess
09:16:22JdGordoni have no idea what most tags are :)
09:18:26[Saint]At least now I see why my %and statements weren't working :)
09:19:21[Saint]though, iiuc, "%?if(foo)%and%?if(foo)<|>" _should_ work.
09:19:34[Saint]its just ugly :)
09:19:38JdGordonthats not how %and works at all
09:19:49JdGordonit is not a keyword, its a tag
09:20:06JdGordon%and(tag1, tag2)<>
09:23:28*[Saint] blames the incredibly verbose (see what I did there?) CustomWPS and Manual entries. ;)
09:28:01KiwiCamOK. This is the first time I've seen what can be done with the %and. I need to mull over this. To clarify...I have one space left. It has to contain the Repeat %mm and shuffle %ps icons. Either Repeat or Shuffle or Shuffle and Repeat together swapping. I'd like to also put the Charge Icon there. Each Icon showing, but alternating between the active ones.
09:34:01KiwiCamBut, I don't wont an Icon for the 0 (Off) in the %mm .ie %?if(%mm,>,1)<%?mm<|%xd(R,2)|%xd(R,3)|%xd(R,4)|%xd(R,5)>|>
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09:37:35[Saint]%?bp<%?bc<%?and(%mm, %pr)<%t%xd(charging);%t%xd(shuffle);%t%xd(repeat)|%?mm<%xd(shuffle)>%?pr<%xd(repeat)>|%?and(%mm, %pr)<%t%xd(charged);%t%xd(shuffle);%t%xd(repeat)|%?mm<%xd(shuffle)>%?pr<%xd(repeat)>>|%?and(%mm, %pr)<%t%xd(shuffle);%t%xd(repeat)|%?mm<%xd(shuffle)>%?pr<%xd(repeat)>>
09:37:49[Saint]that even takes care of charging and charged cases.
09:38:29[Saint]And no...I am *not* writying that out again ;)
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09:40:08[Saint]You can easily adjust that yourself to add the magic to add the individual repeat modes.
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09:42:45KiwiCamOk. Next line...
09:42:49KiwiCam;)
09:43:03KiwiCamI'm typing it now...
09:43:28[Saint]This isn't "Get [Saint] to write your theme for you" day :)
09:43:30KiwiCamThanks. I'll have a look at it.
09:44:42[Saint]the charging/charged magic is pretty easy. We don't need a specific check for if its charged, bacause we can assume if power is detected and its not charging, then its fully charged.
09:45:16[Saint]despite all the garbage in the middle, that statement is actually fairly simple.
09:46:55[Saint]basically &?bp<%?bc<its charging|its charged>|free to do the other crap you want>
09:47:25[Saint]s/&?/%?/
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09:48:09KiwiCamI dig your reasoning. Conditionals are just not my thing.
09:49:27KiwiCamVery good. Thanks. Later Dudes.
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10:03:18megal0maniacQuick, possibly stupid question, but is Rockbox *nix based?
10:03:59bertrikno
10:04:47megal0maniacIs it based on anything at all, or has it been built from the ground up?
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10:05:21bertrikyes
10:06:28megal0maniacI'm going to take that as a yes to the second part of the question. Thanks.
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10:17:44bertrikmeh, I cherry-picked a changeset from gerrit without problems, but now gerrit won't automatically merge it for pushing
10:22:55bertrikEGITCONFUSION
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10:28:07CIA-44Commit 24bd9d5 in rockbox by 03Bertrik Sikken: (Author: Rafaël Carré) gmtime: avoid a modulus
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11:57:31n1sare we releasing today?
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12:05:02Tornebertrik: gerrit is currently configured not to resolve path conflicts at all. i.e. if the same file has changed on both sides it refuses, even if the changes do not overlap
12:05:07gevaertsn1s: unless miracles happen, no
12:05:17Tornewhereas your local git will merge changes as long as the hunks don't overlap.
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12:05:53n1sgevaerts: oh?
12:05:54Tornethere is a tickybox to let it do it, but i've not set it becaue i don't really believe it's a great idea to let gerrit merge files automatically, even if the algorithm thinks there's no problem
12:06:02Tornebetter to let humans at least look at it :)
12:06:07gevaertsn1s: as far as I know there are still serious issues with nano2g usb
12:06:08bertrikok
12:06:30n1sah, i've been a bit out of the loop
12:07:37n1si'd like to go on with pushing wtachi's rbcodec stuff, the next part is pretty much just moving stuff around. which is afaiu the kind of change we don't want during the branch period
12:07:53n1sso i guess i'll hold off
12:10:01gevaertsgit should make dealing with such moves much less of a pain
12:10:10gevaertsSo as far as I'm concerned feel free to go ahead
12:11:40n1sright didn't think of that
12:12:12Tornemoving files around will make no difference to merging, indeed
12:12:21Tornemoving code around inside will, though
12:12:22bertrikneat
12:12:32Torneto approximately the same degree as svn
12:12:43n1syeah it's pretty much only file moves and some makefile changes
12:12:53Torneyeah. you can just do it, then
12:13:04Tornegit will jsut do the right thing if merges cross that
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12:17:27n1sok so i can't push it thorug gerrit due to a "path conflict" but i checked it out locally and it applied with no problem. Do i push it with git the same way as if i applied a patch?
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12:21:54n1swell i guess i'll just have to git push origin HEAD:master
12:24:14CIA-44Commit b5716df in rockbox by 03Nils Wallménius: (Author: Sean Bartell) Build librbcodec with DSP and metadata.
12:24:24n1syep, seems that did it
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12:27:35CIA-44b5716df build result: 301 errors, 0 warnings (Sean Bartell committed)
12:28:04n1soh lovely
12:28:53n1stoo bad gitweb shows the files as deleted/added
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12:29:44Tornen1s: what you're expected to do for a path conflict is rebase the patch locally and upload it again
12:29:57Tornealso, yes, the file *was* deleted and added
12:30:00Tornegit does not support renames
12:30:07Torne:)
12:30:14n1sthat's nice of it
12:30:27gevaertsIsn't git's support for files having names at all an afterthought anyway? :)
12:30:43Torneit can merge across the rename anyway, because it knows that a file being deleted and readded with similar contents is a rename
12:30:53Tornebut it does that by actually detecting the rename every time it tries to do a merge
12:30:58Tornenot by recording the rename naywhere
12:31:15Torne(yes, this is exactly as bizarre and dumb as it sounds)
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12:35:04Tornealso: i guess two people having the same issue in a morning means maybe we should consider letting gerrit merge file contents if non-conflicting
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12:48:05n1sThis doesn't seem right "The following paths are ignored by one of your .gitignore files:
12:48:05n1stools/checkwps"
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12:49:51n1sshould i just remove it from .gitignore? checkwps is handled by configure so files from the build should not end up in the source tree
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12:58:07CIA-44Commit 6fd6cd5 in rockbox by 03Nils Wallménius: Drop checkwps from .gitignore, we don't build it in-tree anymore.
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12:59:00CIA-44Commit 8a7eb4b in rockbox by 03Nils Wallménius: Add missing include path.
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13:04:42pamauryis LCD_DPI important ?
13:04:57pamauryI never understood how exactly is was computed
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13:12:25*n1s is confused by the build system
13:13:51gevaertsGood! That was one of the design goals :)
13:15:25n1sto fix the android app and ypr0 builds i guess i have to add rbcodec to their makefiles (dependency and linking) but where?
13:15:54n1si don't see any linking in the android.make file
13:16:41n1sor well, it calls LD but adds no -L's
13:17:04Tornewell, it doesn't need to
13:17:12Tornethe NDK is already in the ldpath
13:17:37n1sbut how does it link the rockbox libraries?
13:17:49n1sor the skin parser lib
13:17:50Tornethere weren't any before, no?
13:18:07TorneOh, no, i see
13:18:11TorneIT's explicity linking them
13:18:21Tornei.e. passing the .a as a file argument
13:18:22Tornenot using -l
13:18:24*gevaerts builds to see what happens
13:18:51Tornesince you want all the code in the library anyway
13:18:57Torneyou can just link it explicitly
13:19:20Torne$(FIRMLIB) $(SKINLIB) listed as deps on the rule, and $^ used to make args
13:20:18n1saha
13:20:28n1sso just adding $(RBCODEC_LIB) to the rule should be enough?
13:20:55TorneYeah, i think so
13:21:10Torneif you include an ar arhcive on the ld command line it just includes all the objects in that library
13:21:14n1scould someone capable of building the android app test that?
13:21:27Torneas opposed to specifying -lfoo which just tells it to search for unknown sumbols in libfoo.a and pull in bits as needed
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13:21:38Torneit means the "library" is not being used as a librayr, but just as a bundle of object files
13:21:51Tornebut that should be fine for our purposes
13:22:23n1si'm not too good at make and expected it do follow the style of our other makefiles
13:22:31n1ss/do/to
13:22:57Tornei don't know what we do in our othe rmakefiles :)
13:23:24TorneOh, i see
13:23:28TorneYeah, we probably needn't be doing that
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13:23:49Torneunless we really do want the "include only needed objects" behaviour
13:23:54Tornein which case we should be doing that on android as well
13:24:00Tornethere is no reason for them to be different
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13:24:35gevaertsn1s: I think I see the missing bits. Shall I fix it, or do you want to do it?
13:24:59n1sgevaerts: please do it, i can't test build those targets here
13:25:55gevaertsOK
13:31:48n1sawesome, thanks!
13:31:50gevaertshm, android is easy. YPR0 is being annoying
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13:37:27gevaertsah
13:38:14n1si suppose you found the makefile hidden away in the target tree?
13:38:19CIA-44Commit 0fdbbc3 in rockbox by 03Frank Gevaerts: Add RBCODEC_LIB to android and ypr0 builds so they link again.
13:38:53gevaertsNo. YPR0 doesn't just add all of its dependencies to the link line the wasy android does
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13:41:36CIA-440fdbbc3 build result: All green
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14:25:13gevaertsSlasheri: (or anyone else who knows this) How do I safely disable dircache persistence on h1x0? I can undefine HAVE_EEPROM_SETTINGS, but that seems to also impact tagcache
14:25:55gevaertsOf course it's entirely possible that FS #12590 also affects tagcache and nobody noticed yet
14:25:56fs-bluebothttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12590 3Dircache breaks when flashing rombox or rockbox on h1x0 (bugs, new)
14:26:25Slasherigevaerts: thanks for reminding me that.. i will try to fix the problem today/tomorrow (now i have some time on my holiday :)
14:26:42gevaertsAh, that's even better of course :)
14:26:51Slasheri:)
14:27:18Slasheribtw, do we still have svn working or has everything been migrated to git already?
14:27:37gevaertsEverything is on git, although I suspect svn is still there in read-only mode
14:28:10Slasheriok, then i should configure git first
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14:28:54gevaertsThe original release schedule said we were going to release today, but that's not going to happen anyway. We'll have another attempt next weekend I guess, depending on the status of the nano2g usb issue
14:29:59gevaertsAlexP: any thoughts on that?
14:30:30AlexPSounds reasonable to me
14:31:22gevaertsI don't think mid-week releases are realistic
14:34:56gevaertsAlexP: I'll send an email about this
14:37:56AlexPOK, cheers
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14:49:42pamaurybertrik: I've made some progress with the zen x-fi2, bootloader works and the main binary compile. It won't load for now, because of a data abort but that shouldn't be too hard to fix. Touchscreen driver is not implemented but I have a working proof of concept. It's close to being usable !
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15:36:55Misanthroposi like to implement a switch to enable/disable the sleep timer which can be reached through the quickscreen
15:37:03Misanthroposhowever: settings_menu.c:458:21: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type
15:37:10MisanthroposMENUITEM_SETTING(sleeptimer,
15:37:10Misanthropos &global_settings.sleeptimer, sleep_timer_toggle);
15:37:27Misanthroposwhat kind of callback shall I supply.. if any
15:38:13Misanthroposi dont get the incompatible pointer type
15:38:22Misanthroposvoid sleep_timer_toggle(bool run)
15:38:53Misanthroposi the sleeptimer passed to sleep_timer_toggle?
15:39:50Misanthroposor is that callback used for something else? nealry every MENUITEM_SETTING as a NULL as callback
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15:40:46Misanthroposoh... i see.. it needs 2 parameters right?
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15:50:43amiconnHmm, usb got activated on amsv2 (Clip+), but it doesn't work
15:51:40amiconnWindows detects the device, but fails to install the drivers -> no access. And when pulling usb, rockbox hard-freezes.
15:53:02Misanthroposwhich rockbox version, amiconn?
15:53:10amiconnLatest git
15:53:44Misanthroposreproducable? or just tried once?
15:54:12gevaertsMisanthropos: I'd assume amiconn knows what he's doing here
15:54:34Misanthroposok - my brother had the same the first time he tried that.. since then it worked....
15:56:38n1smaybe something in the timing changes after the first conncect on windows
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18:19:24amiconnHmm, indeed it does work second time. Weird...
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18:20:03Misanthroposamiconn, aha :-D
18:20:48Misanthroposbut weird indeed
18:21:24amiconnFor some reason internal storage and microsd slot appear in the opposite order of what I'd expect
18:21:45amiconn(internal is G: and microsd is F:)
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18:23:23*amiconn should upgrade the bootloader
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18:24:25Misanthroposi did that just yesterday after a certain time of testing - usb seems reasonable stable
18:26:09amiconnI wouldn't call usb crashing on unusual/ unexpected timing "stable"
18:31:07bertrikpamaury, nice!
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18:33:01bertrikas far as I know USB, windows can query all the descriptor but it only sends the set configuration command after the driver has loaded, so this could give different timing on the first time
18:33:08passstabi had a problem installing the current build
18:33:21passstabon my nano G2
18:33:21fs-bluebotNo review with id 2 found
18:35:05bluebrotherwell, having a problem is one thing.
18:35:12bluebrothertelling people about it is another
18:35:24gevaertsbluebrother: maybe fs-bluebot should keep quiet if it doesn't know something :)
18:35:33passstabi was going to but i think i solved it
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18:35:43bluebrotherand telling people about it in a way they can actually do (or at least try to do) something about it is something else either ...
18:36:04bluebrothergevaerts: possible, if people think that's a good idea :)
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18:36:07passstabseems to have been mounted ro
18:36:14passstabfor some reason
18:37:42bluebrothera filesystem mounting read only usually indicates filesystem errors
18:38:30passstaboh
18:38:34passstabthanks
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18:42:54passstabuh should i use first fat?
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18:43:03passstabor secound?
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18:54:56MisanthroposYes, amiconn, I agree - but it works most of the time .. at least for me.
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19:47:35MisanthroposI´d like to see the sleep timer in the wps - can I use the %St(sleeptimer_duration) - variable - or could I even use a function which gives me back how much ticks until 0?
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19:50:17Misanthroposi just see there are quite a number of themes - i will have a look there :-D
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20:03:54jlbiasinibluebrother: can I add a method in rbsettings to toogle a bool status. It would allow to control a bool setting from a chexkbox signal. Or is there a simpler way to do that?
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20:11:09pixelmaMisanthropos: there is a special tag for this. I don't know it off the top of my head but it should be mentioned in the manual and/or on CustomWPS in our wiki
20:11:24Misanthropospixelma, I found it . thanks
20:11:46Misanthropos%ar%?bs<SLEEP: %bs|%pc/%pt>
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21:19:43bluebrotheradding member functions to that class will only bring back the mess we had before that ...
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