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#rockbox log for 2012-05-19

00:04:12bluebrotherDevCon people: see link above for a first sketch for a testing website
00:07:30scorche|shtesting website?
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00:09:26Zagorbluebrother: yay
00:09:34gevaertsYes, something we will discuss tomorrow, and then decide to do something about :)
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00:09:36Zagorscorche|sh: manual test suite
00:09:44bluebrotherthe idea (already been discussed last year) was to have some website users can do testing against a given set of tests and put in their results
00:09:47gevaertsWe just seem to be stuck in an inconsistent time
00:10:03bluebrotherI've put up a small and simple website for that, but it's in the local network only :)
00:11:18Zagorcan we have radio buttons instead of dropdowns, please :-)
00:12:15Tornewhen are we doing the actual discussion tomorrow btw?
00:12:33gevaertsAfter lunch?
00:12:36*gevaerts looks around
00:12:40Zagorsounds good
00:12:59Torneright, but how far after lunch? :)
00:13:05Tornealso when is lunch :p
00:13:13Zagorpfff, details!
00:13:16Tornei, yaknow, want to kinda pay attention, but also need to go places tomorrow :p
00:13:40gevaertsOK, 14:00 local time
00:13:49gevaertsWe should have had lunch by then
00:13:53bluebrotherscorche|sh: try http://www.alice-dsl.net/dominik.riebeling/rockbox/test/
00:13:54gevaertsThat's 13:00 your time
00:14:06Torneok :)
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00:24:53bluebrotherZagor: like this?
00:25:20bluebrotherand maybe change the background color when changing the selection
00:28:08Zagoryes, I think uncoloured before selection and then change the whole line (or at least button area) after selecting
00:28:22Zagorthat makes it easier to see what passed, and what failed
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00:29:29bluebrothertrue
00:30:05bluebrotherthough that is not the evaluation, haven't done anything in that area yet :)
00:33:43CIA-79Commit c736c0e in rockbox by 03Jens Arnold: Player LCD: Map several punctuation characters in the U+20xx range
00:40:25CIA-79c736c0e build result: All green
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00:50:44*bertrik claims he fixed the mr100 build
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00:57:18gevaertsbertrik: we need to see a commit before we believe you!
00:58:39saratoga_does anyone know what the command line is to rewrite an ASF stream in ffmpeg? i'm trying to debug some error
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01:01:46CIA-79Commit 0587e85 in rockbox by 03Peter D'Hoye: add aditional required tools to the check
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01:08:35CIA-790587e85 build result: All green
01:13:18funmanpetur: you might want to add autoconf maybe
01:16:54Zagorsaratoga_: avidemux is an easy tool to remux streams, if that is any help
01:17:21peturfunman: sure... this was just a test - first git commit ;)
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01:18:21peturgrep
01:18:25peturmeh
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01:19:55CIA-79Commit 4a6b875 in rockbox by 03Bertrik Sikken: Make lbitlib.c include its own header (for the luaopen_bit prototype)
01:20:08bluebrotherZagor: updated with a bit more color
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01:30:05Zagorbluebrother: nice. can we split the lines so only the button area changes color, and the test name stays uncolored?
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01:34:34bluebrotherZagor: like this?
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01:36:21Zagorbluebrother: yes!
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01:42:55CIA-79Commit 2d9c0ba in rockbox by 03Jens Arnold: (Author: Dominik Riebeling) Add support for cp1252 (Western European) codepage.
01:45:38CIA-79Commit 63a48fa in rockbox by 03Peter D'Hoye: more tools checks to be done before starting toolchain builds
01:50:32CIA-792d9c0ba build result: All green
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01:57:37CIA-7963a48fa build result: All green
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10:02:37JdGordonso, anything exciting to report fro devcon last night?
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10:47:50gevaertsJdGordon: not that much yet, but there are some bits
10:48:15gevaertsIt seems the mr100 bug is fixed after all since the big skin fix
10:48:41gevaertsAlso, bluebrother is doing some stuff that will *really* interest you: user testing!
10:48:58JdGordon7min to launch.. almost forgot about the vid :p
10:49:26gevaertsAnd I reached an agreement with Zagor about building non-trunk revisions: we'll have a go at it today, and in exchange he gets beer
10:49:38bluebrotherwhich doesn't mean we're testing the user!
10:49:57gevaertsWe should, really. Some of them are broken :)
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10:58:52bluebrotherJdGordon: the player sim segfaults
10:59:33JdGordonuser testing?
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11:01:01JdGordonbluebrother: of all the things I care *very little* about.... the player is probably at the top of that list :)
11:02:35CIA-79Commit 6eebdb3 in rockbox by 03Dominik Riebeling: Add .nomedia on Android.
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11:08:56CIA-796eebdb3 build result: All green
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11:18:23gevaertsamiconn: git merge-base v3.11 master
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11:23:38bluebrotheranyone wants to try a slightly changed version? http://10.2.0.40/~dom/rockbox/index.php
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11:24:55bluebrothernow also for the world outside: http://www.alice-dsl.net/dominik.riebeling/rockbox/test/index.php
11:30:33[Saint]The 4 people in the outside world that own those targets will be pleased :)
11:32:56Zagorbluebrother: very nice. are you planning to make it editable over web as well? i.e. adding test cases.
11:34:01bluebrotherZagor: haven't planned that. The idea was to have simple text files describing those and having them in git
11:34:14Zagorbluebrother: ah, ok. yeah that
11:34:18Zagor's probably even better
11:34:20bluebrotherlike this: http://10.2.0.40/~dom/rockbox/tests.txt
11:34:54bluebrother[Saint]: I just picked some random ones
11:35:16bluebrotherwant a specific one? Those "tests" are also just made up :)
11:35:30ZagorI like that the build system actually lets the very slow targets putter along and do their 4min+ builds without being interrupted
11:35:37Zagor*slow clients
11:35:47bluebrotherplus, I don't do anything with the results the user clicked yet ;-)
11:36:13Zagorbluebrother: right, that's phase 2. devcon 2013 ;-)
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11:37:38kolmkarualright.
11:37:47kolmkarucould anybody help with finding rockbox-fonts-63.zip?
11:37:48bluebrotherZagor: very true!
11:37:56kolmkaruhelp me*
11:38:03bluebrothersince we discussed the initial idea on DevCon2011 :)
11:38:13bluebrotherkolmkaru: what is that supposed to be?
11:38:31kolmkarufonts package.
11:38:37[Saint]It sure didn't come from "us"
11:38:58bluebrotherah
11:39:05kolmkaruthe utility 404's it.
11:39:06bluebrotherI guess you want something else
11:39:16bluebrotheryes, that's because of a bug in Rockbox Utility
11:39:30bluebrotherit retrieves the version number incorrectly (or to be more exact, the version hash)
11:39:34kolmkarusurely, it can be done manually.
11:39:49kolmkarucan it not?
11:40:01bluebrotheryou can simply update your build to a different one. Depending on the git hash you hit the bug or not
11:40:13bluebrotheror try a development binary of Rockbox Utility: http://tinyurl.com/rbutil-dev
11:40:18*JdGordon has doubts about the usefulness of usertesting
11:40:28JdGordonbut i've got na open mind and look forward to being surprised
11:40:54bluebrotherJdGordon: why shouldn't we test if users classify for using Rockbox? :P
11:40:54kolmkarualright, i'll see what happens.
11:40:56[Saint]JdGordon: its useful, sure, non-idiot testers is where my doubts lie. :)
11:41:19bluebrotherkolmkaru: I suggest using the development binary of Rockbox Utility
11:41:20[Saint]kolmkaru: you can download the font pack directly from the main page.
11:41:27bluebrothera new release should be made soon anyway
11:41:40bluebrother[Saint]: sssh! ;-)
11:41:52bluebrotheryou're chasing away Rockbox Utility testers!
11:42:01[Saint]Right, sorry :)
11:44:22kolmkaruclip zip isn't listed.
11:44:44kolmkaruwill anything else work?
11:45:36gevaertsThere's only one font package
11:45:54[Saint]My understanding is fonts aren't target specific, if the mount point is correct, it shouldn't matter.
11:46:31kolmkaruso why is there a list anyway.
11:46:53[Saint]For fonts alone, there shouldn't be.
11:46:58bluebrotherclip zip is supported in Rockbox Utility ...
11:47:27kolmkarufuck, i'm blind. never mind.
11:48:08bluebrotherZagor: http://www.rockbox.org/download/byhand.cgi is missing clipzip
11:48:58AlexPBeing able to do e.g. release builds on the build farm would be awesome
11:52:46kolmkaruthank you anyway.
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11:55:06gevaertsAlexP: mr100 seems to work again in master, but the commit that was suspected of having fixed it isn't the ono, apparently...
11:55:24gevaertsEither that or there's more going on
11:57:40AlexPgevaerts: Very bizarre
11:57:47*gevaerts nods
11:58:02AlexPIf it is working though, we should consider a 3.11.3
11:58:08AlexPPlus skin fixes etc.
11:58:16AlexPHave they been backported?
11:58:28gevaertsYes, that's the suspected commit, actually
11:59:07bluebrotheris it possible we have some subtle issues with memory corruption lately?
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12:04:13kolmkaruso. all i could read from the screen was *panic*. i'm fuck now, right?
12:04:37kolmkarufucked*
12:05:00[Saint]Reboot.
12:05:23CIA-79Commit 0bda1e1 in rockbox by 03Michael Sevakis: Fix a drawing bug where rectangles stop drawing too early.
12:05:35amiconnThe Ondio MMC problem is strange. It only affects rockbox loaded from ROM (ucl). Booting from the .ajz is fine
12:05:39kolmkaruthe power button does nothing.
12:05:55amiconnBut these days there's no rombox, so I wonder what the difference could be...
12:06:53[Saint]kolmkaru: you may need to hold the power button for 20~30 seconds.
12:07:07kolmkarui have.
12:07:12[Saint]Failing that, you'll be waiting for the battery to drain.
12:07:29kolmkaruoh, the panic thing again.
12:07:47kolmkarualright, it's up.
12:07:56amiconnHmm, may still be some init stuff.
12:08:05*amiconn goes further back in the releases
12:11:39CIA-790bda1e1 build result: All green
12:16:56bluebrotherZagor: we have http://www.rockbox.org/docs/credits.html linked in the wiki but that redirects to viewvc
12:17:16gevaertsThis reminds me...
12:17:45gevaertsHave we paid proper attention to docs/CREDITS lately? Authors do get into the git log automatically from gerrit, but not there
12:19:48*bluebrother goes looking into rpm packages
12:20:02bluebrothergevaerts: I don't think so. At least I have the impression we didn't :)
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12:46:35gevaertsOK, apparently mr100 audio was fixed by da6cebb6b0b17b4a75a2bd4f51b7cf70b5dafe40
12:50:35gevaertsWe can't sanely backport that one
12:51:53AlexPWe could bring forward 3.12 a bit instead
12:52:06AlexPIs there any news on Nano 2G USB?
12:52:21gevaertsIt's less broken now IIUC, but still not fully fixed
12:53:32bluebrotherpixelma: http://www.ndpsoftware.com/git-cheatsheet.html
12:56:00CIA-79Commit a5c5da4 in rockbox by 03Marianne Arnold: Fix broken touchscreen manuals.
12:57:50CIA-79Commit 2837555 in rockbox by 03Amaury Pouly: imx233: add rtc functions related to msec
12:57:50CIA-79Commit 6923386 in rockbox by 03Amaury Pouly: imx233: move rtc init from drivers/ to firmware/
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13:01:04CIA-79a5c5da4 build result: All green
13:06:11CIA-796923386 build result: All green
13:06:46CIA-79Commit bc46310 in rockbox by 03Frank Gevaerts: Move the mr100 to unstable
13:08:16CIA-79Commit 0f208f5 in www by 03Frank Gevaerts: Move the mr100 to unstable
13:08:25gevaertsZagor: can you give www a push?
13:09:09*amiconn grumbles about unrelated build breakage disturbing bisect
13:12:22CIA-79bc46310 build result: All green
13:13:41*bluebrother tries building Rockbox in a Fedora VM setup up using his own RPMs :)
13:14:06bluebrotherseems to work fine up to now
13:17:06bluebrothershould a rockbox rpm also pull in the manual dependencies?
13:17:17[Saint]Up to now, or up to and including now?
13:17:18*bluebrother tends to a no
13:17:25bluebrotherup to now?
13:17:37*bluebrother doesn't understand
13:17:50[Saint]You said "up to now", implying it stopped.
13:18:09bluebrotherI've created a couple of rpm packages for our cross compilers (sh, m68k, mipsel, arm)
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13:18:39bluebrotherand I'm creating a rpm that simply pulls them in as dependencies, as well as all other dependencies required for building Rockbox
13:18:48[Saint]Yes, it was "seems to work fine up to now" that confused me.
13:18:50bluebrotherah no, that was for the "still building" part
13:19:03[Saint]Did it break, or, it continues to work?
13:19:13[Saint]Ahhh, right.
13:19:14bluebrotheryay, worked for e200 build
13:19:24bluebrotheradding SDL as requirement for the sim might make sense
13:19:34gevaertsYes, sdl isn't very big
13:20:22bluebrotherexcept that it pulls in a bunch of other dependencies :)
13:27:42AlexPbluebrother: add it as an optional dependency?
13:29:17bluebrotherAlexP: not possible
13:29:26AlexPoh?
13:29:26bluebrotherat least not as far as I know with rpm
13:29:34AlexPOh, that's a bit rubbish :)
13:29:48bluebrotherI need to create another package anyway which installs the yum configuration
13:30:05bluebrotherone could create that manually, but having it in a package makes things easier for users
13:30:12AlexPcreate one that installs apt :P
13:30:18bluebrothernah
13:30:26bluebrotheryum is working fine for me :)
13:30:36AlexPexcept for no opt-deps :)
13:30:52bluebrotherI did play around with apt some years ago and I don't miss anything from it
13:31:01bluebrotherwell, either there is a dependency or there isn't :)
13:31:44AlexPopt deps help out quite a lot though - it is a very clear way of saying that this isn't forced upon you, but it will add functionality (without you having to go searching)
13:31:56AlexPanyway, if you can't you can't
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14:18:04JdGordondo we even build voice files other than english?
14:18:49AlexPJdGordon: No, that's why people have to do it themselves
14:21:26gevaertsOK, so no objections to voice strings in the zip
14:21:40JdGordonhow much effort would it be to just build the voice string for languages with >80% complete on each build?
14:22:14gevaertsJdGordon: strings or voice files?
14:22:34bluebrotherhttp://www.alice-dsl.net/dominik.riebeling/rockbox/test/index.php
14:22:47JdGordongevaerts: voice files
14:24:22bluebrotherAlexP: see the link I just pasted
14:24:45AlexPbluebrother: ta
14:24:47JdGordonI don't tihnk that website will give us much :/ the tests (well as they are now) are way too vague to be meaningful
14:25:01TorneJdGordon: the tests are just examples
14:25:09Tornethe UI/tool is the point
14:26:21JdGordontargets should stay in stable untill a user (or dev) comes and lets us know its broken... not automatically
14:26:37evilnickJdGordon: Till a dev *confirms* it, maybe
14:26:58JdGordon*cough* charcell
14:26:58evilnickLess spam-able
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14:32:00gevaertsTorne: yes
14:34:33JdGordonif targets are going 3+ months with bugs that *users* arent picking up then they should really be marked as "out of active development" and eventually dropped
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14:36:05gevaertsJdGordon: one problem I think is that releases are too successful, and nobody is running dev builds any more
14:37:11[Saint]simple, deliberately break releases!
14:37:37AlexP[Saint]: It doesn't need to be deliberate, we manage that anyway
14:37:43[Saint]haha
14:37:45AlexPNatural talent I guess
14:38:12bluebrotherJdGordon: feel free to improve the testing effort :)
14:38:39JdGordondevs having access to targets means SFA when it comes to testing
14:40:30JdGordonamiconn: (I tihnk its oyu talking?) what have you got in your local tree that isnt in git yet? if the only active devs with a target arnt using HEAD thats problematic
14:40:52amiconnHalfway done stuff
14:41:02JdGordonok
14:41:24TorneJdGordon: amiconn refuses to use any of git's local version control features or any DVCS features, and is using aliases that make it into a worse svn :)
14:41:55*[Saint] tried that for about a week.
14:41:57amiconnI'm not using any aliases
14:42:21JdGordonusers dont test, hardly any devs test when asked... every single time I've put calls out (with builds) to test patches i get very very little feedback
14:42:23Tornes/aliases/sequences of commands/
14:43:00TorneJdGordon: that's not universal, though
14:43:09TorneJdGordon: we ahve had pretty successful test builds for patches
14:43:23Tornepp5020 charging and dma both went okay
14:44:16[Saint]theme testing stuff is a hard one, so I see Jd's point...but I have seen testing go well, too.
14:44:33[Saint]not a lot of users are interested in writing themes.
14:44:38[Saint]only using them.
14:44:42ZagorJdGordon: patch testing and rc testing is very different
14:45:39evilnick[Saint]: Amount of time spent learning the .wps language > benefit of being able to create one's own theme
14:46:06[Saint]Am I like the *only* one that picked it up? :)
14:46:18JdGordonnot only theme patches, but others too, I personally have not had much feedback from test requests
14:46:30evilnick[Saint]: Pretty much!
14:46:37JdGordonbut maybe the site does improve things, i doubt it but sure
14:46:56JdGordonhangout gone dead
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14:55:42JdGordonsorry, I'll stop commiting to the manual and its all good :)
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15:00:10JdGordondo we have a difference between release manuals and dev manuals?
15:00:33wodzI think no
15:01:11JdGordonthats a slightly bad problem, came up in the forums recently where a user was using the stable release but the manual said here was a setting which isnt in stable yet
15:01:12AlexP_JdGordon: No, we just build the manual for the release build
15:01:22AlexP_We have a stable manual
15:01:31AlexP_i.e. a manual built for the stable release
15:01:36JdGordonwhere?
15:01:38Tornewe have stable *pdf* manuals
15:01:38AlexP_So they were looking at the wrong one
15:01:49Tornethe actually-accessible-online manual is for the current dev
15:02:07AlexP_hah
15:02:16AlexP_Rockbox Utility gives you it I believe
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15:02:33AlexP_But I thought you could get to it from the website as well
15:02:35JdGordonthe "manual" link gives the dev build... i cant find stable on the site at all
15:02:36AlexP_Apparently not
15:02:41JdGordonand yes, dialy builds are stupid and pointless :)
15:02:42AlexP_That needs fixing :)
15:03:01AlexP_You think everything is stupid and pointless :)
15:03:13JdGordonnot *everything*!
15:03:17JdGordonI'm not!
15:03:25AlexP_:)
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15:04:27JdGordonyep
15:06:10*bertrik doesn't have a strong opinion on naming and is fine with what is done so far
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15:07:50jmso I'm assuming USB storage support for the sansa fuze is "stable" now?
15:07:57jmsince it works in the stable release...
15:12:54Zagorjm: yes
15:13:37JdGordonhttp://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/497344/4b989873cf4a08d2/ is slightly relevant to getting rbutil into debian
15:13:51JdGordonhttps://lwn.net/Articles/496627/
15:14:31jmwell then I have no reason to use the original sansa firmware at all now, I suppose
15:15:00ZagorJdGordon: yeah, having rbutil in debian is probably more pain than gain
15:15:08Torneyah, i wasn't seriously proposing it :)
15:15:18Tornemore noting that even if we wanted to its kinda a pain in the ass
15:15:30Tornebecause nobody is a DD :)
15:16:10JdGordoncan we do jpg/png as .codecs and swap them out like the other codecS?
15:16:19JdGordonthe images dont really need to be loaded instantly
15:16:24Torneif we reserved a *third* buffer for image codecs
15:16:32Torneyou couldn't use the same buffer as teh audio codec
15:16:33Zagoryay...
15:16:40JdGordonwhy not?
15:17:03Kaiscenei have a problem where there's a data-abort when connecting the USB while playing a track AND having a custom SBS loaded... what category do i file this under in flyspray?
15:17:56ZagorKaiscene: I'd say "Drivers" is close enough
15:18:17Zagoror "Operating system/Drivers"
15:18:26Kaisceneok
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15:22:14JdGordongradients can already be drawn into the backdrop on skins
15:22:53gevaertsok, so we just need someone to convert the skins :)
15:23:50JdGordon[Saint]'s cabbie needs to be commited
15:24:22[Saint]I need ~6 added lang strings for that :)
15:24:32[Saint]there's a patch in my git repo
15:25:22Tornehave you put it on gerrit?
15:25:36[Saint]Its not at a point where I'd be happy committing it presently, though. when I've finished with the localisation shenanigans, I'd be a lot happier about it.
15:25:44Tornei meant, the patch for the lang strings
15:25:48Tornenot the skin
15:25:54Tornepropose adding the strings you want :)
15:25:57JdGordonI dont think extra lang strings should be added :/
15:26:03[Saint]Torne: no, no I haven't. I didn't think there'd be a lot of point.
15:26:21[Saint]JdGordon: you either want it transdlated, or you don't.
15:26:31[Saint]You don't want a 6MB bitmap, so....
15:26:31JdGordoni want it translated magically :)
15:26:40Tornewizards!
15:26:42JdGordoni.le skin translating support
15:26:54JdGordonnot through the lang system which wastes space elsewhere
15:29:11[Saint]There's a couple of strings that aren't exactly necessary, but are used, and one string that exists already, but only as a voiced string (isn't translated).
15:29:30JdGordonpixelma: this is what [Saint] is complaining about... we shld use a font to do the top bar text
15:29:41[Saint]I think "Charging" and "Charged" are the only two I could really cut out and not miss.
15:29:42JdGordonand translate it from the skin engine, outside of the normal translation system
15:29:59pixelmayes
15:30:06[Saint]shit, should I be listening to the stream?
15:30:27pixelmaI just mentioned him working on it
15:30:38JdGordonah ok, it was quite hard to hear you
15:31:11Zagor[Saint]: only if you want to know what goes on
15:31:40[Saint]I just read something that made me think I should turn my volume up. :)
15:33:36[Saint]JdGordon: the "funny" thing about HEAD cabbie is that "Now Playing" is a translated string, yet we use a bitmap (or, actually...is it just part of the backdrop? ...i forget) instead.
15:33:59pixelmapart of the backdrop I believe
15:33:59[Saint]Its a bit weird for English only me to care so much about skin translation and RTL support, but, I think its needed.
15:34:20KaisceneConnecting USB while playing FM radio makes the USB connection while continuing to play FM radio - is this done on purpose? when disconnecting USB, it then stops radio playback.
15:35:03pixelma[Saint]: except on the small monochrome screens where it's part of the progressbar bitmap IIRC. I haven't looked much into it myself recently though
15:35:25JdGordonso we need to find the nice font
15:36:23[Saint]"Ubuntu" is nice, and, I've already got antialiased font pack in multiple sizes.
15:36:29[Saint]plus, the license suits.
15:36:47[Saint](read: less work)
15:36:49[Saint];)
15:36:53pixelmamaybe the author could still be contacted - my gut feeling says that e-mail/forum PM has the best chance
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15:37:23pixelmaZincAlloy was his nick there IIRC
15:37:37[Saint]that guy hasn't been around in years to my knowledge
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15:37:40ZagorKaiscene: keeping the radio on sounds reasonable, since it doesn't interfer with usb. stopping afterwards might be due to it exiting the fm screen?
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15:38:27pixelma[Saint]: I think I saw him around once a year or somesuch. Worth a try anyway in my opinion
15:38:36KaisceneZagor: on my Clip+, it does "exit" the FM screen when USB is connected but continues to play the radio.
15:39:09[Saint]pixelma: Oh, yeah...sure. I think I lost what we were talking about, though (but I may have figured it out)
15:39:20ZagorKaiscene: when you extract usb, does it go back to radio screen or the menu?
15:39:21[Saint]Is it wanted I use the existing font used in the bitmap?
15:39:33KaisceneZagor: it goes to the menu
15:39:42[Saint]Currently the header font doesn't match the rest of the font, and the font differs per target anyway.
15:39:47Zagorright, that would explain stopping
15:39:49[Saint]I'm not sure that's such a biggie.
15:40:15pixelma[Saint]: I don't care much actually but it looked to me like there was interest to use the exact same font
15:40:25*[Saint] nods
15:40:38[Saint]I'm easy, I can try find out what the font is called.
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15:40:49[Saint]Or, of course, someone is free to beat me to it.
15:41:41pixelmafor the very small versions (and displays without anti-alias) I think we are better off using an already present bitmap font of ours
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15:42:36JdGordonits SHIT, move back to svn!
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15:44:05Zagorrcs!
15:44:29amiconnImo gerrit is nice (apart from the weird openid thing), but git otoh...
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16:11:05CIA-79Commit 25feb00 in rockbox by 03Amaury Pouly: imx233: rework adc battery temperature sensor handling
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16:11:47Tornezomg
16:11:51copperspam!
16:11:54liarnice^^
16:12:39JdGordonshowoff!
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16:13:04*[Saint] waits for the build reports to choke.
16:13:28Torneshould only trigger one build, i exepct that was a single refupdate
16:13:38[Saint]Ah.
16:13:55Tornehe just happened to fastforward master by more than one commit in one push
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16:15:31pamaurynormally it should compile
16:18:58*[Saint] spots a new slogan.
16:19:11[Saint]"Rockbox: Normally, it should compile"
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16:26:24coppersuccess?
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16:33:42pamaurythese warnings are not mine!
16:37:57CIA-79Commit 45782df in rockbox by 03Dominik Riebeling: Remove "daily builds" from Rockbox Utility.
16:38:03pixelmaTorne: since you added FS #11530 - where else would you stuff the album art info? (Maybe other manual maintainers have ideas too (AlexP_))?
16:38:04fs-bluebothttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11530 3Manual doesn't tell you where to put album art for targets with pictureflow but no AA on WPS (bugs, new)
16:38:38bluebrotherso, one item of the long list of issues to get done finished :)
16:39:19RadicalR_Interesting.
16:39:37RadicalR_Also, since the channel is a bit more active, allow me to retry my request.
16:40:05RadicalR_I bricked the Sansa Fuze - I believe I was an idiot and didn't verify which version it was.
16:40:30RadicalR_I thought it was a version 2 until I opened it up.
16:40:36bluebrotheramiconn: the define I was talking about earlier is __USE_MINGW_ANSI_STDIO=1
16:40:37RadicalR_Nope, it's a version one.
16:44:56pixelmaTorne: hmm, I see that there is an "audio and file formats" section now, which is quite informative on metadata etc (for swcodec at least :\). It could probably go there or right after that which would be right before the theme tags stuff
16:45:30bluebrotherpamaury: noticed this?
16:45:32bluebrother../../utils/imxtools/sb.c: In function ‘sb_read_memory’:
16:45:33bluebrother../../utils/imxtools/sb.c:815:57: warning: dereferencing ‘void *’ pointer [enabled by default]
16:45:44pamauryyeah, I will fixed that
16:45:47pamaury*fix
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16:46:03bluebrotheras long as it doesn't act up it's no real problem ;-)
16:47:12CIA-7945782df build result: 3072 errors, 0 warnings (Dominik Riebeling committed)
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16:48:20CIA-79Commit 9f89ffa in rockbox by 03Amaury Pouly: mkimxboot: fix warnings
16:49:18RadicalR_.... and leave a whole much of errors?
16:53:07CIA-79Commit 733eb9a in rockbox by 03Dominik Riebeling: Show nicer language names in voice creation dialog.
16:55:06bertrikRadicalR_, what exactly did you do to it?
16:55:12CIA-79Commit a42f573 in rockbox by 03Amaury Pouly: Restore backtrace which was accidentely commented out
16:55:26RadicalR_Well, like a dip, I flashed the Fuze v2 to it.
16:55:43RadicalR_Screen is dead, but I can make it mount as a 2 gig flash drive.
16:56:17CIA-799f89ffa build result: 2217 errors, 0 warnings (Amaury Pouly committed)
16:57:50bertrikRadicalR_, is it a 2 gig fuze?
16:58:02RadicalR_it is.
16:59:09bertrikTry putting a .bin file from the original firmware on it, in an attempt to restore it to the original firmware
16:59:25RadicalR_Tried that.
16:59:57bertrikhold left while booting
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17:00:52RadicalR_Uh... yeah
17:00:53RadicalR_about that.
17:01:00RadicalR_I took the cover off already,
17:02:57bertrikyou might still be able to push the button with the cover off
17:03:54RadicalR_Not if the ribbon cable came out.
17:03:58RadicalR_-_-
17:04:10RadicalR_Yeah, I learned exactly where the blasted thing was.
17:06:48bertrikdepending on how old/new your bootloader is, it might boot to the original firmware by plugging the USB cable with into a PC while the fuze is powered off
17:06:51CIA-79a42f573 build result: All green
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17:07:18RadicalR_It doesn't even do that. Sadly.
17:07:37RadicalR_The only other thing I can think of is that somehow I shorted the Fuze.
17:07:38bertrikit might be powering on, without any indication on the screen
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17:08:13gevaertshmm, chessbox is broken on the clip for me
17:08:53bluebrothernice
17:09:01bluebrotheranything that's _not_ broken these times? :(
17:09:02LearAnyone know what kind of code is in .ARM.attributes sections?
17:09:19bertrikgevaerts, broken how?
17:09:30gevaertsbertrik: the plugin doesn't load
17:09:57gevaertsMaybe it got too big?
17:12:09CIA-79Commit 4f5efac in rockbox by 03Peter D'Hoye: Update Dutch translation
17:16:30Zagorif anyone has a machine to spare, our build farm could use some help. we don't have our usual big irons online this weekend so every little helps.
17:16:47ZagorI have a /usr/local tarball suitable for debian machines if anyone wants
17:19:50Galoiswill it work for ubuntu? if so hit me up
17:20:09Zagoruploading...
17:20:52CIA-794f5efac build result: All green
17:23:12pixelmais loading embedded album art (for pictureflow) supported for hwcodec or is it tied to some swcodec only part of the metadata parser?
17:23:36pixelmafor mp3 of course
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17:28:45ZagorGalois: http://download.rockbox.org/toolchain/debian_usr_local.tar.gz
17:28:45Galoisgot it
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17:28:51ZagorGalois: if haven't already, http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/BuildClient contains useful information
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17:38:25pixelmais there no-one who can answer me the above question? I can't really try currently as I hear the Ondio's MMC driver is broken... :\
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17:43:50Learpixelma: Does pictureflow even support embedded art?
17:44:12pixelmahmm, good question
17:44:46pixelmaI thought that if core did, it would do so too but haven't checked
17:45:54LearBut the mp3 AA metadata parsing seem to only be guarded by HAVE_ALBUMART, not depending on swcodec (directly, anyway).
17:49:05GaloisI have 8 cores. This thing will suck up all 8 cores while building, right?
17:50:02pixelmaLear: so that's a "should work for hwcodec"?
17:50:12ZagorGalois: if you let it. you can limit it if you like.
17:50:23pixelmaif it works at all
17:50:44Galoiswhich arches does your tarball support? I mean it doesn't include the android SDK or anything right
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17:51:22Zagorno, it's only m68k-gcc452,sh,arm-eabi-gcc444
17:51:45Zagor"apt-get install libsdl" to add sdl to that list
17:52:08Learpixelma: Yes, as in the metadata parsing part shouldn't block it.
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17:53:25pixelmaalright thanks for the answer. :) I'll just try the other - have to prepare some mp3s first though as I have none with aa embedded
17:54:27Galoisok I got a welcome message. (I also tested ~3 builds for my 3 devices to make sure that those work)
17:55:57ZagorGalois: excellent!
17:56:53gevaertskugel: ping
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18:04:31CIA-79Commit e401683 in rockbox by 03Amaury Pouly: zenxfi3&stfm1000: implement fmradio i2c and debug screen
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18:13:23GaloisZagor: seems to work! http://build.rockbox.org/data/e401683-clients.html
18:13:50ZagorGalois: welcome to our merry band! :-)
18:14:36GaloisI happened to build the clipplus which is a device I have. Let's test it.
18:16:31Galoisworks fine. (at least it doesn't immediately crash)
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18:18:59[Saint]I skipped a few lines, skim reading, is it even possible to flash a V2 build on a V1 Fuze?
18:19:10*[Saint] didn't think it was, seems rather stupid if its possible.
18:19:35[Saint]I also think we'd get a LOT more brick cases if this were possible.
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18:36:30jhMikeSclipv1 just freezes on any track skip now
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18:45:08[Saint]jhMikeS: well...fix it! :p
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18:52:38jhMikeS[Saint]: heh...think I was too quick jump on the "it's all hopelessly messed up" bandwagon. setting reset "fixed" it.
18:53:50CIA-79Commit 9db0cf0 in rockbox by 03Frank Gevaerts: Fix typo in error message
18:53:51CIA-79Commit f3fd2d4 in rockbox by 03Frank Gevaerts: Make overlay plugins work again.
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19:14:40CIA-79Commit 091c324 in translate by 03Dominik Riebeling: Update translate scripts to work with git.
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19:18:57bluebrotherok, the translation website should hopefully work again once gevaerts updates the files on the server (and replaces the svn checkout with a git clone)
19:20:08bertrikDoes anyone know the irc nick of Ralf Ertzinger?
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19:23:04gevaertsbertrik: isn't he Lalufu or something like that?
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19:23:58[Saint]Isn't that the IAP guy?
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19:26:43amiconnwhat the.....?
19:27:05amiconnBisecting for ages lead to a commit that doesn't touch Ondio code at all?!
19:28:13amiconngrml
19:28:32[Saint]nice!
19:29:10[Saint]hopefully it points to whatever the heck is messing up memory allocations (or, at least seems to be doing so).
19:29:49pixelmaalright, looks like pictureflow doesn't do embedded album art in general
19:29:51bertrikgevaerts, Lalufu sounds right
19:30:47bertriklast seen 2 months, 5 days ago :|
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19:35:02jhMikeSwell, talk.c has wrong stuff in it
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19:38:53amiconnHow the helll can 4e6daf0 break Ondio UCL?
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19:39:54CIA-79Commit f385380 in translate by 03Dominik Riebeling: Fix paths for fixlang.php script.
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19:41:36jhMikeS3rd base?
19:42:12bluebrothertranslate.rockbox.org works again \o/
19:43:25gevaertsYay!
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19:47:53bertrikI plan to commit g#197 and g#198 soonish
19:47:54fs-bluebot3Gerrit review #197 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/#change,197 : FS #12390 - Sansa Clip Zip Cabbiev2 Port by Stephen Carroll by Bertrik Sikken (changes/97/197/1)
19:48:17bertrik s/commit/push/
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19:52:33pixelmadoh, it even was in the manual already :\
19:56:50bluebrotherhmm, the bot only recognizes the first gerrit id.
19:57:50[Saint]Didn't you "fix" that once already?
19:58:37[Saint]I /may/ be misremembering.
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20:07:25CIA-79Commit b1dcd29 in rockbox by 03Michael Sevakis: ssd1303: make sure sansa clip and whatever others clip updates properly.
20:12:53CIA-79b1dcd29 build result: All green
20:23:35jhMikeSseems several lcds dont' bother clipping x and y
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22:23:45RaltayHello everybody, I would have a question: audio_reset_buffer_noalloc(): EOM (65536 > 0) on Sansa Fuze+ - what could have caused it and what to do to avoid it in the future?
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22:38:30bertrikjhMikeS, when do we want to update stuff outside the screen boundaries?
22:39:02bertrikand are you sure this line is correct: + height += x, x = 0; ?
22:39:39bertrikadding height (a vertical thing) to x (a horizontal thing)
22:40:24RadicalR_Alright, let's try this again.
22:40:38RadicalR_I got myself a Sansa Fuze+
22:40:50RadicalR_But Rockbox crashes when I try to do an autodetect.
22:40:59RadicalR_So I guess I should just pick it manually?
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22:49:59wodzRadicalR_: autodetect? Can you elaborate?
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22:55:48CIA-79Commit 30c05ea in translate by 03Frank Gevaerts: Add top-level .htaccess file.
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23:04:24saratogasomeone on ABI reported that dithering led to crashes on the Clip Zip, anyone got one to test and see if it happens?
23:06:32jhMikeSbertrik: erm wait, I did what!?!
23:06:38bertrikdithering audio, or dithering video?
23:06:42saratogaaudio
23:06:50saratogalooking at the code i doubt its the problem though
23:07:38jhMikeSbertrik: clipping is expected and it should just work when you don't want to tippy-toe around incomplete code :)
23:08:51bertrikoh, so you just basically made the lcd driver more robust
23:09:19jhMikeSwell, doing what it should, what others normally do
23:09:49bertrikbut I still doubt the height += x line
23:10:43jhMikeSthat's a stupid typo that happened to not be cased in the particular case involved :)
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23:12:49*Zagor frowns at jhMikeS hacky "height += x, x = 0;" construct
23:13:30Zagorhere are some extra braces for you: {}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{} :-)
23:14:51RadicalR_wodx, you know when you star RockUltity
23:15:10RadicalR_You can have it autodetect the device you have plugged in
23:15:27saratogaso you're asking about a crash in rockbox utility rather then rockbox?
23:15:34jhMikeSsince when is the comma operator hacky? besides I think LinusN committed that originally (in an early x5 patch)
23:16:19*jhMikeS hugs comma operator
23:16:29jhMikeS{,}
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23:16:52saratogadoes that comma do anything different then a semicolon would have?
23:16:58jhMikeSyes
23:17:02saratogathe order?
23:17:08jhMikeSit's one statement
23:17:27bertriksaratoga, I can disable and enable dithering while playing audio with no ill effect on my clip zip
23:17:29ZagorI think it's ugly to use comma just to avoid having to use braces
23:17:44Zagorbut I'm not above smacking LinusN instead :-)
23:17:57saratogabertrik: ok i figured so
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23:22:16CIA-79Commit 609de01 in translate by 03Dominik Riebeling: Fix retrieving the git hash for output display.
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23:23:14kugelbluebrother: can the translate.rb.org open gerrit tasks on behalf of the translators?
23:23:38gevaerts kugel not at this time. It would be useful to have, but...
23:23:49CIA-79Commit c2e9c93 in rockbox by 03Michael Sevakis: lcd-ssd1303: Fix big oops putting height where there should've been width.
23:23:53kugeldefinitely
23:25:16gevaertsToday's main task is getting it to work properly again with the existing features
23:25:34gevaerts(we're *nearly* there)
23:26:55bluebrotherthe more I'm looking at the themes.r.o code I feel the need to fix some potential unsafe things :/
23:27:54*jhMikeS finds it odd anyone should seemingly object to any sort of robustness in code
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23:31:41kugelbluebrother: that site is full of bugs
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23:46:48bluebrotherkugel: feel free to work on it
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23:50:26pixelmaTorne: g#242
23:50:27fs-bluebot3Gerrit review #242 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/#change,242 : Manual: Pull general album art info out of the theme tags section. by Marianne Arnold (changes/42/242/1)
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23:53:49CIA-79Commit 407e917 in themesite by 03Frank Gevaerts: Rename public to www to match the situation on themes.rockbox.org.
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23:58:41*amiconn seems to need some black magic now :\\

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