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#rockbox log for 2012-06-08

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00:06:18saratogathanks, added to git wiki page
00:06:55Torneyou need to have done pull −−rebase before it will show you what you want, though
00:07:15Torneasif there are changes you haven't rebased onto yet it will show you a diff that includes the reverse of anything newly added by someone else
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02:11:56gigabeatQuick Hardware question guys - If the Gigabeat F Series is not displaying the Green/Orange plug logo charge indicator when plugged in, does that indicate the brick or the battery could be faulty?
02:12:17gigabeat(The unit otherwise works so long as it's plugged in, just doesn't indicate it is charging)
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02:20:25gigabeatI think I've answered my own question
02:21:43gigabeatsorry to have troubled y'all!
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09:11:46ZagorFYI: I'm running a software upgrade on the rockbox.org server. Some service interruptions may occur.
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09:46:49bug2000dfkt is not here. Oh well.
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10:09:36gevaertsZagor: are you aware of wiki issues? Some people can't seem to get working write access
10:09:58ZagorI got a mail from someone
10:10:20Zagorhaven't looked into it yet
10:16:37[Saint_]The wikiusersgroup page is also quite busted.
10:17:18[Saint_]None of us seem to recall there ever being two seperate user lists either, though history tells us this has been the case forever.
10:20:51[Saint_]And if someone's going to be looking at the wiki anyway, http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/WebSearch could stand to be reverted to http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/WebSearch?rev=6 which is the last good revision. I've always wanted to do this, but haven't for fear of breaking it even more, ...though it has been broken for 12 years so I don't think I could do much worse.
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10:25:25ZagorI guess that's the problem. the page should only have one list. if you add a person to the lower list they will not get write access
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11:53:33bug2000Bought ClipZip, got home. Was defect. Went back. Out of stock XD.
11:58:14copperof course
11:58:25copperit's a conspiracy to make you buy an iPod
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12:02:29bug2000copper, Too bulky.
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16:11:40BaltowolfI have a question, what's this "tagnavi" thing it talks about on the database part of the wiki? It says you can ignore "the" in band names with it. How do I do that?
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16:20:47BaltowolfAnd if no one answers my other question another one I googled and could find an answer is how to decode the "history>most played(plays/score)" numbers. If I look at the top one on my most played than it says "13|62 New Cure" what's with the 13 and 62? Which is which? Obviously score is neither because I've never rated the song I don't think and it only goes to ten. I'm confused.
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19:07:54*[Saint] has a recipe to make the lists stop responding to scroll and tap events in RaaA
19:08:29[Saint]Oddly, stopping playback makes them work again.
19:08:40[Saint]No idea of the cause yet.
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19:13:56[Saint]The recipe seems to be: bring up the quick-menu (file browser/database, quick screen, context menu), select file browser/database, use the back button to drop to the main menu, ...touch screen no longer responds to scroll or tap events (but the scroll bar still works).
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20:44:04*AlexP spots a Zagor
20:44:22*Zagor frantically looks for a rock to slither under
20:44:29AlexP:)
20:44:31AlexPZagor: The link to the raw version (i.e. txt file) of the IRC logs seems broken
20:44:53AlexPIs that by mistake or are they not available anymore?
20:45:08Zagorthat's a mistake
20:45:16*gevaerts gives Zagor a box of them
20:45:32AlexPThe "view raw" for previous logs is what I'm talking about
20:46:10AlexPI'm not actually bothered about view raw, but I used to download the text versions for easy searching
20:46:40AlexPAnd I don't appear to have any since 2011-12-18 :)
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20:58:47ZagorAlexP: fixed now
20:58:58AlexPZagor: ta muchly
20:59:09Zagor(url changed though)
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21:10:20tails_hello, i'm getting compile error on modified version of rockbox basicaly codec don't fit iniram area
21:10:44tails_can i increase this value somewhere?
21:10:52tails_just for testing purposes
21:11:20tails_(value = amount of memory reserver for iram)
21:11:29tails_or how do you call it
21:11:36Zagoriram size is a hardware limitation
21:11:46tails_hmm
21:11:54tails_what is it then?
21:12:08Zagoriram is a special in-chip ram that is faster to access than normal ram
21:12:12tails_i thought it's some mart of memory reserver for codecs and stuff
21:12:21tails_p*
21:12:25tails_reserved*
21:12:49tails_and how big is it? is it written somewgere?
21:12:51gevaertsYou could have a look at the map file, possibly the core isn't using all its iram. If so, you could give codecs a bit more
21:12:51tails_h*
21:13:15gevaertsIt's usually 96K or 128K or something like that
21:13:18tails_map? where is it located?
21:14:02gevaertsHm, if linking fails you probably don't get a map file
21:14:16gevaertsOh, wait. This is a codec that fails to link
21:14:20tails_no
21:14:26tails_it's a plugin
21:14:31tails_mistook it
21:14:36gevaertsRight
21:14:54gevaertsRun "make bin", and you'll get a file named rockbox.map in the build directory
21:15:01gevaertsThat has all information you need
21:15:26tails_and iram is overflowed by 213048 bytes
21:15:29tails_hmm
21:15:52gevaerts213048 bytes? Forget it then, you can't find that much spare
21:16:10gevaertsWhich target is this?
21:16:15tails_but somehow it works on ypr0
21:16:26tails_cowond2
21:16:59gevaertsypr0 is entirely different. It's an application target and not a full standalone firmware, which means it doesn't do RAM allocations the same way
21:17:07tails_ah
21:17:21tails_and using main ram is not possible?
21:17:33gevaertsSure. Just don't allocate in iram
21:18:04tails_this should be somewhere in plugin config right?
21:18:12gevaertsNo, in the code
21:18:15tails_ah
21:18:22tails_ok, i'll dig into it then
21:18:24gevaertsYou'll still be limited by the plugin buffer size then, but you can get more by stealing the audio buffer
21:18:31tails_yup
21:18:42tails_i did this before iram was introduced
21:21:59bertrikDo we have some kind of summary how the new buflib stuff works? Like do we still have to "steal" audio buffer for example?
21:23:10gevaertsPlugins can't access the main buflib IIRC
21:26:08tails_hm
21:26:16bertrikAFAIK, the audiobuf is still used for both voice and audio buffer. Is it even possible to separate those, for example?
21:26:21tails_btw can i disable using IRAM on my target at all?
21:26:52gevaertstails_: most probably not, for at least some hardware drivers. Why would you want to anyway?
21:27:05tails_just curious
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21:46:50saratogadoes anyone here understand the tagnavi syntax?
21:49:05bertrikmaybe this helps http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/DataBase
21:49:41saratogai want to fix this problem: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,34564.msg198444/topicseen.html#msg198444
21:52:40saratogahuh i don't even see the "all tracks" entry in the tagnavi.config file
21:53:36saratoga"another entry "<All Tracks>" will give a shortcut for all the titles selected so far"
21:53:43saratogaso i guess that defined by the code not the tagnavi?
21:56:04saratogawow this code looks complicated
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22:47:49CIA-4Commit db6853c in rockbox by 03Bertrik Sikken: (Author: Ivan Pesic) FS #12690 - Serbian translation update
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22:49:37CIA-4db6853c build result: All green
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