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#rockbox log for 2012-06-13

00:00:44gevaertsAfter it's done with the disk, it broadcasts SYS_USB_DISCONNECTED
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00:04:01Qtaxany idea what it could be? @ http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,34606.0.html
00:04:56gevaertsQtax: have you checked the filesystem?
00:05:36Qtaxno, how could i check it? usual FAT tools?
00:05:44gevaertsyes
00:05:58Qtaxk, will have a look
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00:09:58bertrikQtax, it's not a common problem AFAIK
00:10:20 Quit ender (Quit: The evolution of languages: FORTRAN is a non-typed language. C is a weakly typed language. Ada is a strongly typed language. C++ is a strongly hyped language.-- Ron Sercely)
00:10:32bertrikcan you see what's on the screen if you try to power it up again?
00:11:18Qtaxi cant power it up, there is nothing at all, no sign of life whatsoever
00:11:24Qtax(when this happens)
00:11:46Qtaxafter 30+ sec reset it boots as if nothing has happened
00:11:59bertrikDid you set the sleep timer?
00:12:37Qtaxchkdsk reported that it found some error and fixed it, could be related :p
00:12:49bertrikI mean the wake-up alarm, sorry
00:12:58Qtaxno
00:14:00bertrikok, I hope the chkdsk fixes it
00:14:42gevaertsWe are a bit sensitive to filesystem errors
00:15:02gevaertsSomeone should go over our FAT code
00:15:26Qtaxshould i do a clean install after this or?
00:15:42bertrikwouldn't hurt, but probably not necessary
00:16:08Qtaxseems that the restored fragment had some last.fm loggs or something
00:16:20Qtaxbut could be anything
00:16:21Qtax-g
00:16:44bertrikhm, did you have scrobbling enabled?
00:16:52Qtaxyes
00:17:18Qtaxone of my favorite features (;
00:18:06bertrikif the problem still happens, could you try disabling it and see if that helps?
00:18:18Qtaxsure
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00:23:52Qtaxcoundt get it to crash yet (after some quick restarts), but it's very random so can't be sure
00:25:30Qtaxi can see that my .scrobbler.log was corrupted (before scan anyway)
00:26:50bertrikI think that just before shutdown is one of the instants that we try to write to the log (if there's any scrobble data cached)
00:27:06*gevaerts nods
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00:28:20gevaertsIt's probably using the idle callback system, which means it gets written every time the playback system needs to access the filesystem, or on shutdown
00:30:37Qtaxi was looking too quickly at the scrobble.log, it was just long UTF8 encoded track names that got me confused. my bad, sorry
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00:31:42Qtax;p
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00:46:20bluebrotherany thoughts on this? http://www.alice-dsl.net/dominik.riebeling/rockbox/talkfile.jpg
00:46:36bluebrother(I've changed the sidebar image to something ... more recent :)
00:46:56bluebrothercomments on the UI change welcome as well :)
00:47:21bertrikcan't remember what it was before to be hones t...
00:47:43bluebrotherthis one: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/pub/Main/RockboxUtility/themeinstall-osx.jpg
00:48:27bertrikthe new one is much better!
00:48:37bertrik(I mean the sidebar image)
00:48:51bluebrotherit's a DCE picture btw :)
00:51:47bluebrotheranother option would be to use a tower picture though
00:54:50bertrikI think I'd still like this one better
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13:21:06RFroehningI would like to recreate english.voice based on my changed english.lang file. i found voiceBox but it is for Windows only.
13:21:58RFroehningI understand the talk script should to the same?
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13:24:11RFroehningI ask because the page says: Linux: Another solution is the console utility talk.gz which recursively creates language specific .talk files. It uses Mary TTS and dictionary files. Are .voice and .talk files treated the same?
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14:36:32VermicelliI was putting music on my Sansa e260 after my new Rockbox install, and hit the center button, showing me what "usb keypad" meant in the settings. It muted my computer (running linux). CLickign it again made the OSD show as unmuted, but sound hasn't returned. All settings that I can find show up as unmuted. ANy ideas?
14:42:29VermicelliAh- it mutes both the ALSA mixer and the PulseAudio mixer, but only unmutes the ALSA.
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15:44:25VermicelliHow do I scan for presets without getting every possible channel (station or not) assigned?
15:46:23VermicelliAlso, while a song is playing from storage, how do I play another song I select immediately, rather than adding to the end of some queue (of all songs?) that Rockbox decided to create?
15:49:36gevaertsHave a look at http://download.rockbox.org/daily/manual/rockbox-ipodnano1g/rockbox-buildch4.html#x7-650004.4
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15:59:00VermicelliHrm. So to play an arbitrary new song, I must pause the one currently playing, find and select the new one, and then select the option to discard the current dynamic playlist?
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16:00:20gevaertsuh, no
16:00:25gevaertsJust select the new one
16:00:43VermicelliThat always says it's queued at the end of the current playlist.
16:00:54VermicelliWHich appears to be the entire contents.
16:01:25Tornewhat specific action are you doing? because selecting a file absolutely doesn't do that
16:02:04gevaertsDo you have party mode enabled?
16:02:26VermicelliThat may've been it. Thanks. :-P
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16:05:09VermicelliFrom the manual, it looks like there should be a searchable database. When I select "database," I get a message that it's building, and have for a few hours (though the number has not changed). Is this where I should be able to search?
16:06:54gevaertsYes. If it's stuck, there's probaby a file rockbox doesn't like. There's an option in the debug menu to make it log the database scan which should help you find which file that is
16:09:10VermicelliThanks.
16:10:20TorneVermicelli: if you didn't get the email already, i closed the bug you raised about hte multimedia keys (the email should tell you why) :)
16:10:35Tornei was going to answer you here but you had already left
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16:11:02VermicelliTorne, got it. Thanks.
16:12:00VermicelliFor the radio presets, is there a threshold I can set, so as to not have every possible channel assigned? Or some other fix?
16:12:21Torneit already only assigns channels for things it thinks are real stations
16:12:47VermicelliI have every odd decimal on the list it seems, after a scan.
16:12:56VermicelliMost of course just static.
16:13:00Tornea few extra spurious ones is not unusual, but that many suggests the logic is broken (possibly just for that tuner?)
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16:15:13VermicelliWhen in the radio context menu, should the first entry, "Preset" have any effect?
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16:16:14Tornei don't know, i don't have a device with a radio
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16:23:33VermicelliAny idea what that database problem log looks like?
16:25:36VermicelliHm. THis reset it gave me an option to re-initialize it. Good sign.
16:36:04VermicelliOther than the radio scanner issue, I'm decently happy with rockbox. Thanks for the help, Torne and gevaerts.
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17:33:36RFroehningCan someone give me a hint on howto regenerate english.voice? I guess one would use english.lang as input? Is there a way to do it in Linux? I like to regenerate the voice files, because it seems the index does not match after some changes
17:35:35RFroehningOr how can select the MARY TTS as engine in rockboxutility?
17:35:48funmanhttp://www.rockbox.org/wiki/VoiceHowto
17:36:13funmanhttp://www.rockbox.org/wiki/VoiceHowto#Automated_generation_of_.talk_clips even
17:36:36RFroehningI read that
17:38:05RFroehningthats how i came to install MARY TTS which is required by the talk script
17:39:09RFroehningbut it looks the script rather creates talk-files for Directories. What I like to know is how the english.voice file is created.
17:39:22funmanhmm
17:40:11RFroehningok - i will try to install one of the suggested TTS from rockboxutility
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20:26:24RFroehningok - I got it to work with espeak and rockboxutility.
20:27:42RFroehningthe english.voice file get created, but unfortunately rbutil downloads english.info from the rockbox site. I have a modified english.lang file. so my question would be: how can create my own english.info file?
20:28:08RFroehningor tell rbutil not do download but use or create a local english.info file?
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20:31:17gevaertsRFroehning: you could build rbutil from a current git checkout. I think the support for voicefiles in the zip is there by now
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21:07:49RFroehninggevaerts, I am using the rbutil from the checkout and compiled it too. you understand i want to recreate the english.voice file my my locally changed english.lang file?
21:08:42gevaertsYes
21:09:20gevaertsThe build now includes enough information for rbutil to build voices without needing the server
21:09:54gevaertsAnd if I read the git log correctly, rbutil should be able to use that since 900cf6d5
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22:08:40AlexPI guess JdGordon is the one to answer this and he is otherwise engaged, but I'll put it out there :)
22:08:57AlexPWhat I'm trying to do is have a grid of icons for the main menu on a touch target
22:09:15AlexPI've achieved this using %Lb and %LI etc.
22:09:46AlexPHowever when you touch an icon, you get a (seemingly) random menu item rather than the one you have touched
22:10:16AlexPIs this an inherent issue with the skin engine, or is there a different way to do what I'm trying to do?
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22:23:51gevaertsAlexP: do you have the code somewhere? I know grid mode works (or at least, used to work) for button targets, but I've never tried touch
22:24:05AlexPgevaerts: yeah, it is very simple
22:24:07AlexPOne mo
22:24:31AlexPgevaerts: The grid works as in displays correctly, I just can't select the appropriate icon by touching it
22:24:35AlexPI'll zip it for you
22:24:50*gevaerts will have a look
22:24:57AlexPcheers
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22:26:41AlexPgevaerts: aeparker.com/files/rockbox.7z
22:26:55AlexPThere is some extra stuff in there I didn't remove :)
22:27:02AlexPIt is for 1280x720 btw
22:27:16AlexPAnd I tried it on target too so it isn't just the sim :)
22:30:49gevaertsThe S3 stuff I assume?
22:31:11AlexPyep
22:31:36AlexPIt is just some random icons more or less atm :)
22:31:51AlexPI assume you have that file?
22:32:02gevaertsyes
22:32:10AlexPstupid question :)
22:34:57*gevaerts seems to be able to reproduce the issue
22:35:06gevaertshm, wait
22:35:59gevaertsright, this is broken
22:36:23AlexPglad to know it isn't just me :)
22:36:53gevaertsNow if only I knew how touch worked so I didn't have to search :)
22:36:58AlexPhehe :)
22:37:44gevaerts"This needs to be fixed if we ever get more than 1 touchscreen on a target" :)
22:38:07AlexPnice :)
22:38:14AlexPAlthough I promise I only have 1!
22:39:49gevaertsAh, right... This is indeed not going to work
22:40:17gevaertsapps/gui/bitmap/list.c:737
22:40:27gevaertsThat doesn't look very grid-compatible
22:41:45AlexPbum
22:41:56AlexPIs it an involved fix?
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22:42:26AlexP(off the top of your head :))
22:42:34gevaertsI don't think it's a huge fix, but I won't be able to do that in ten minutes :)
22:43:00AlexPheh, ok :)
22:43:09gevaertsI first need to figure out stuff like how to see we're in skinned list mode anyway
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22:43:12gevaertshm
22:43:18gevaertsshouldn't be *that* tricky
22:43:31AlexPmaybe it'd be quicker for you to introduce a native android UI :P
22:43:32bertrikok, you have fifteen minutes!
22:44:04bluebrotherfifteen? Not eleven? ;-)
22:44:16AlexPI'll give him up to 30 :P
22:45:55bluebrotherwow, that's generous :)
22:46:11AlexPWhat can I say, I have a big heart :)
22:46:39gevaertsYou mean you want it fixed, and you know not to upset those who volunteer :)
22:46:53AlexPThat'll be it :)
22:48:35CIA-47Commit 0850c1c in rockbox by 03Dominik Riebeling: Improve voice creation window a bit.
22:49:58RFroehningwhen trying to compile rbutil from current master it complains: *** No rule to make target `../../apps/codecs/libspeex/speex/speex.h', needed by `/home/richard/src/rockbox/rockbox/rbutil/rbutilqt/build//libs//rbspeex//rbspeex.o'. Stop.
22:50:11RFroehningcan someone confirm?
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22:50:54CIA-470850c1c build result: All green
22:51:08funmanyeah codecs moved
22:51:14funmantry a make clean
22:51:31RFroehningi did... does not help.
22:52:16AlexPyeah, doesn't build here either
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22:55:46funmanwe should have a rbutilqt builder
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22:57:58AlexPbluebrother: Is rbutil not building something at our end or something at yours :)
22:58:01AlexP+?
22:58:23funmanbuilds for me but i may have left over files
22:58:58funmanyes, it's on your side
22:59:04funmangit clean -fxd
22:59:15funmanit'll remove obsolete dependencies files
22:59:22AlexPta
22:59:41AlexPyep, cheers
22:59:42RFroehninggenerating a link to codecs in apps solves the problem
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23:00:00gevaertss/solves/works around/ :)
23:00:22RFroehninghehe
23:00:29bluebrotherAlexP: builds fine for me
23:00:39AlexPbluebrother: It does here after funman's fix
23:00:40bluebrotherlet me check with a new tree ...
23:00:48AlexPSo don't worry anymore :)
23:00:57bluebrotherfix? Ah, the git clean -fxd?
23:01:01AlexPyep
23:01:13bluebrotherusually removing the build folder helps too :)
23:01:24AlexPyeah :)
23:01:30bluebrothersince clean doesn't clean the dependencies unfortunately
23:05:04RFroehningoh i see
23:07:51RFroehningok. rbutil works... but it cant retrieve strings from installation... that is because there is no english.info file... can someone point me to a tool which generates this ?
23:08:58bluebrotherRFroehning: if you have a recent Rockbox installation you have the required files −− and if you build Rockbox from a recent checkout it will add that as well
23:09:02gevaertsAlexP: g#275
23:09:03fs-bluebot3Gerrit review #275 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/275 : Make touchscreen handling work with skinned lists. by Frank Gevaerts (changes/75/275/1)
23:09:25bluebrother(genlang is the tool that generates the .vstring files, the build system packages them up)
23:09:32AlexPgevaerts: Awesome, I'll have a test
23:09:37AlexPgevaerts: Thanks very much
23:09:47RFroehningok... i have to rebase my modifications then to the head?
23:09:47gevaertsHm, I left some printf statements in there...
23:10:25gevaertsThe second one should be better
23:10:51gevaertsWell, both will work for the sdl app, but I have no idea what printf() does on android
23:11:00bluebrotherwell, you could of course also simply cherry-pick the relevant changes :)
23:11:37bluebrotheryou're interested in .describe d6ef5a0d8057bd6a0f9925d1002cc1a3207ff3b7
23:11:39fs-bluebot3Create binary voice string archive on target. by 3Dominik Riebeling (3changes/46/246/2 from Sat, 19 May 2012 15:14:35 +0000)
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23:12:37gevaertsAlso .describe 4e41c6d9babc293a7b639c53f0687b650999cb60 I think
23:12:38bluebrotherhmm, interesting. The bot notices this as review even if it's been merged
23:12:38fs-bluebot3Only check lng files for MAX_LANGUAGE_SIZE. by 3Dominik Riebeling (from Sat, 9 Jun 2012 21:04:42 +0000)
23:12:46bluebrotheroh, right :)
23:12:56bluebrotherforgot about that fix
23:15:53funmangevaerts: printf() writes to stdout on android
23:16:19funmanif you use it from a GUI app, I guess stdout goes to the limbs though
23:16:33CIA-47Commit da08e50 in rockbox by 03Dominik Riebeling: Talkfile: show folder to talk.
23:16:33CIA-47Commit b4dee89 in rockbox by 03Dominik Riebeling: Rework talkfile creation window.
23:16:34CIA-47Commit c02bdc3 in rockbox by 03Dominik Riebeling: Update "sidebar" image in Rockbox Utility dialogs.
23:18:45CIA-47c02bdc3 build result: All green
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23:20:47gevaertsAlexP: does touch scrolling work with skinned lists?
23:21:14AlexPgevaerts: I don't know, I've only ever made that one and it fits on one screen
23:21:21AlexPBut I can try :)
23:21:46gevaertsNot that I want to work on that now... :)
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23:31:41AlexPffs, why can't I build android?
23:31:42AlexPhttp://pastie.org/4082593
23:32:05AlexPthat's the make apk output
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23:32:29gevaertshmmm
23:32:58funmandid you update your java?
23:32:59AlexPI haven't tried to buidl it for a long long time, so this probably isn't anything to do with your change
23:33:29AlexPfunman: System is up-to-date, but I don't know what version I have installed - I'll check
23:33:37bluebrotherAlexP: looks like the issue I had a bit ago as well
23:33:45*bertrik goes back to investigating the playlist vs. USB problem
23:33:48bluebrotherneeded to use java 1.6 instead of the default 1.7
23:33:59AlexPah yes, I have 1.7
23:34:20AlexPIs there anyway to tell it to use 1.6 other that replacing 1.7 with 1.6?
23:34:32AlexPIf I can even have both which I doubt
23:34:55bertrikmaybe set JAVA_HOME and add JAVA_HOME/bin to your path?
23:35:35gevaertsYes, that should work.
23:35:44gevaertsMake sure you prepend it to your path though
23:35:56AlexPI don't seem to be able to have both
23:36:08AlexPNot with the default packages anyway
23:36:41gevaertsHm, wait
23:37:09gevaertsAlexP: change android.make
23:37:48gevaertsAlexP: http://paste.debian.net/174383/ might work
23:38:11AlexPgevaerts: Thanks, I'll try
23:39:39AlexPgevaerts: sadly not
23:39:41AlexPjavac: target release 1.6 conflicts with default source release 1.7
23:39:41AlexPmake: *** [/home/alex/Rockbox/rockbox/build/android/bin/classes.jar] Error 2
23:39:49gevaertsAh,
23:39:54gevaertsAdd -source 1.6 as well
23:39:57AlexPOK :)
23:40:57AlexPwoohoo!
23:41:14AlexPalthough there was a warning
23:41:15AlexPwarning: [options] bootstrap class path not set in conjunction with -source 1.6
23:41:34gevaertsProbably not important
23:41:44AlexPI got an apk anyway, I'll try it :)
23:43:55AlexPhmm, it won't install
23:44:14gevaertsDoes it say why?
23:44:23RFroehninguhm... the rockboxui for sansaclip+ cant playback audio anymore? codec api version error
23:44:35AlexPNope, click on it then get a splash saying "Application not installed"
23:44:48gevaertsAlexP: adb logcat might help
23:44:51AlexPI removed the previous one (which was a rasher build)
23:44:51bertrikRFroehning, unlikely, I tried it yesterday and it worked
23:45:01bertriktry another make install perhaps
23:45:03RFroehningi will try a clean build then
23:45:06AlexPgevaerts: Yeah, but then I'd have to go and find a cable :)
23:45:12RFroehningjust did...
23:45:14AlexPI'll find one now
23:45:19RFroehningwill start from scratch
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23:48:22*bertrik tries to make sense of the shutdown / USB logic in playlist.c
23:51:22AlexPgevaerts: Installation error -103. I had a quick google and found " It was the java sdk version. I was using the java sdk 1.7, and I switched to the java sdk 1.6 and it works great. I think the problem had something to do with the 1.7 version signing utility's default settings not being compatible with Android."
23:52:14AlexPSo :/
23:52:15gevaertsBoo!
23:52:20AlexPyep
23:52:29gevaertsI could make a build for you
23:52:36AlexPThat would be handy :)
23:52:42AlexP720x1280 please :)
23:53:00AlexPor whichever way round means portrait
23:53:16gevaertsArm? :)
23:53:53bertrikRFroehning, sorry, I was wrong, I tested the clip zip sim yesterday. I just built the clip+ sim and it plays mp3, although I don't get the cabbie v2 theme
23:54:24AlexPgevaerts: yes please :)
23:57:28AlexPgevaerts: looks like it will be fixed soon: https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=52344
23:57:28bertrikRFroehning, do you also have the same problem with the theme?
23:57:28AlexPOn next sdk release
23:57:28gevaertsRight. Looks like there might be commandline options to fix it now
23:57:48RFroehningbertrik, after a new simdisk and rebuild from scratch mp3s work, and cabbie_v2 seems to work
23:58:39bertrikit looks like I'm getting one of those fallback themes
23:58:48bertrikabsolutely fresh build

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