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#rockbox log for 2012-06-23

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01:53:24Dr_saratogahmm, lower pclk on my clip+ causes a hard lock whenever power is connected (even if I try to enter charge mode)
01:53:31Dr_saratogaplayback works fine though
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02:04:07Dr_saratogahmm i don't see where charge mode even touches the USB clocks
02:04:28Dr_saratogadoes something else get powered on when charging besides USB? i guess bits of the AS power management chip?
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08:39:31funmanDr_saratoga: are you trying to improve battery life?
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12:11:58CIA-47Commit 83d2104 in rockbox by 03Dominik Riebeling: c200v2: add missing Europe FM / no FM firmware filenames.
12:11:59CIA-47Commit e359202 in rockbox by 03Dominik Riebeling: Fix bootloader zip extraction filename case sensitivity.
12:14:50CIA-47e359202 build result: All green
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17:10:02Saratogafunman: yeah I'm doing more battery benches on amsv2
17:12:08bertrikI remember the power situation with the ams and amsv2 is not quite obvious, but I keep forgetting the details
17:13:00funmanamsv2 power use is very good
17:13:03funmanamsv1 sucks a lot
17:14:51*bertrik hasn't done any clip zip benches yet
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17:22:46SaratogaThe CPU clock has little impact on power
17:23:11SaratogaBut the pclk has a big impact
17:23:30SaratogaI guess since other stuff gets clocked higher
17:23:52SaratogaSo I'm testing a 16 MHz pclk
17:24:48SaratogaUI and playback are the same, test bench is slower, and USB and charging hard lock
17:25:09SaratogaHopefully battery life is also better
17:25:24SaratogaBench is running now
17:25:46funmanbertrik: clip zip got 20 hours or something
17:26:10SaratogaIf it is maybe clock scaling of the pclk on amsv2 would be a good idea
17:26:24bertrikCharging should just communicate with the analog-front-end, similar to communication with the codec e.g. to set volume. Odd that it causes a hard lock.
17:26:57SaratogaIs it possible some USB bit is turned on by mistake?
17:27:21SaratogaI looked for a while but that code is unfamiliar to me
17:28:15bertrikI don't know, sound unlikely, but anything is possible
17:28:27SaratogaAlternatively I wonder if having such a large difference in bus and CPU clock is bad
17:28:29bertrikfunman, oh nice!
17:28:56SaratogaI could try keeping the CPU multiplier constant
17:29:57SaratogaYes my quite old clip already does over 17 hours and there is still a lot of room for improvement
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17:30:16bertrikSaratoga, on the lpc2148 microcontroller, there is limit between the processor clock and the USB clock. The CPU had to run at least X MHz to communicate successfully with the USB part.
17:31:12bertrikSaratoga, clipv1 or clipv2? I thought 15 hours was the Sandisk claim for basically all clip models.
17:31:23SaratogaPlus
17:32:00SaratogaAnd yes we are already like 6 or 7 hours ahead of what the sandisk software gives me
17:33:24Saratogahttp://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaRuntime
17:33:39SaratogaYou can see pclk hurts a lot
17:33:55bertrikhttp://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Sansa-Clip-Sansa-Clip/How-is-your-Sansa-Clip-battery-life/td-p/19825/page/24 has some data on the OF runtime for the clip
17:34:08SaratogaSo probably why the fuze v2 battery life is worse
17:34:15bertrikflac or ogg reduce runtime by roughly 2 times compared to mp3 ...
17:34:29SaratogaBertrik: I tested the of too
17:35:59SaratogaI couldn't do so well as that post but maybe my players just have old batteries
17:37:03SaratogaStill if I could beat the sandisk software by 8 hours on an old battery that would be nice ;)
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18:06:54CIA-47Commit ba3b6ce in rockbox by 03Szymon Dziok: pp bootloader: speed up loading of the OF in the mi4 format
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18:18:03CIA-47Commit 7038c55 in rockbox by 03Szymon Dziok: Fix a bug introduced in 91b52a1, broken icons in the Archos Player simulator.
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18:19:19SaratogaNice
18:20:16CIA-477038c55 build result: All green
18:25:56CIA-47Commit afc0944 in rockbox by 03Szymon Dziok: Update Polish translation.
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21:52:20bertriknice, we have 8 complete translations even without explicitly requesting it :)
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23:08:36CIA-47Commit 277533f in rockbox by 03Michael Chicoine: US English language update
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23:58:11fmlHello. What players are affected by the recent commit "pp bootloader: speed up loading of the OF in the mi4 format"?

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