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#rockbox log for 2012-08-01

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05:10:16so_far_to_goI can't seem to get the latest build on a nano 2g to show up on debian squeeze, any commandline fu or suggestions would be lovely
05:10:43so_far_to_gospecifically it doesn't seem to be mounting via usb
05:19:20doomrobowhat?
05:28:46JdGordonso_far_to_go: there is apparently a known usb break in recent builds which we havnt tracked down
05:28:52JdGordonyou'll have to use the OF untill we fix it
05:28:57JdGordonOF for usb*
05:29:57so_far_to_goJdGordon: thank you, whats "of" mean?
05:30:03so_far_to_go*OF
05:30:16JdGordonoriginal firmare...
05:30:19JdGordonappleos
05:30:50so_far_to_goI see
05:31:44so_far_to_gosince its not showing up at all in either /media or /dev how would I go about updating/uninstalling it? reformat it via someon elses itunes?
05:32:22JdGordoncheck the manual.... quickly switch on hold when it is booting to get into the apple OS
05:32:41JdGordonthen menu+select for a few seconds once you've ejected it to reboot it into rockbox
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05:56:15so_far_to_gothank you
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08:51:07emilyrappI would like to know how to either create a dock for my gigabeat f40 that will work with rockbox or modify a cheap dock to work with it.
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17:21:26DissentientGood day. Can anyone help me with my sort of bricked Clip+?
17:22:47funmanWhy do you think it's bricked, and not just crashed?
17:23:44DissentientBootloop
17:23:52DissentientI just bought it
17:24:32funmandid you use RockboxUtility ?
17:24:45DissentientNot yet
17:25:03DissentientAnd it cannot be identified by my PC anyway
17:25:34DissentientCurrently loops bootscreen -> refreshing media -> bootscreen
17:25:47funmanthat's not bricked
17:25:54DissentientWorked fine until I connected it to my PC first time
17:26:12funmancheck on sandisk forums for what to do
17:27:17DissentientIs there any way to hard reset it using just buttons?
17:27:32funmansandisk forums will know
17:29:47DissentientI can't find anything on my issue there
17:31:59funmansorry can't help you then - this is an issue with the original firmware, try asking on their forums
17:32:39DissentientI think there should be a way to force it into recovery mode or something
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17:35:57funmanit's easy to break it permanently in recovery mode so i won't help you to do that - ask on the sandisk forums or anythingbutipod before doing that
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22:30:23*amiconn wonders why the Clip+ charges so slowly, and whether this is a rockbox problem
22:31:00amiconnTook about 2.5 hours from empty to full
22:31:41funmantry to play with charging current maybe, how long does the OF take?
22:31:55amiconnI don't know
22:32:17amiconnThis was actually the first time I did a complete charge
22:33:03amiconnNormally I don't need to because plugging USB every now and then keeps it sufficiently charged
22:33:37funmanapparently we draw 140mA current when charging
22:35:31funmanthe battery is 300mAh, does it correlate with charging current? (300/140 = 2.something)
22:36:15amiconnSounds like it
22:36:50*amiconn wonders why we don't use the full 500 mA USB is able to provide (after "asking")
22:37:33funmanthe PMU can go up to 460mA
22:37:48funmanI believe this 140mA setting comes from the OF but feel free to try higher
22:38:28funmansee BATT_CHG_I in powermgmt-ascodec.c
22:38:41amiconnProbably it might be a good idea to limit charging current a bit with a battery that small. Maybe 300 mA (== 1 C)
22:39:10amiconnHmm, may do so when back home
22:39:42Tornearen't you supposed ot charge at, like, 0.8C
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22:40:25amiconnNah, LiIon/LiPo is charged primarily using constant voltage
22:41:43amiconnYou only need to limit current (a) to keep within specs of the external source, be it a dedicated power supply or usb and (b) to limit heat generation
22:42:01funman280mA is (4 << 4)
22:42:16Torneyes, but presumably we don't have thermal monitoring on this
22:42:21funmanamiconn: it is in the as3543 pdf which isn't public afaik
22:42:38Torneteh various wisdom i've read suggests 0.8C as a good number to avoid it getting warm enough to need to care
22:42:42amiconnBut the Clip+ doesn't even get warm when charging atm
22:42:43Tornebut iunno
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