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#rockbox log for 2012-08-20

00:03:16Ward1Anyway, thanks guys, gtg :)
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03:07:41MasT3Rsome knows how to compile Android Rockbox for NEON?
03:07:47MasT3R*someone
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04:35:45amayerwhat is the difference between unstable and unusable?
04:39:25JdGordonits very airy-fairy.... unstable means working but missing things/bugs
04:39:30JdGordonunusable means not working at all
04:39:39JdGordonor not suitable for anyone except actual devs
04:41:06amayeri think this was brought up before but why is ipod nano 2G under unstable and ipod classic under unusable?
04:41:21amayerdont they both require emcore(freemyipod.org) to load rockbox?
04:41:55JdGordonumm, [Saint] ?
04:42:37amayerand "unstable" and "unusable" arent on the tech terms page(http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/ProjectGlossary)
04:42:39amayershould they be?
04:43:01[Saint]the nano2g used to be stable, it now has no USB so stable is impossible at present.
04:43:33amayerwell shouldnt the nano 2g and classic be on the same list?
04:43:35[Saint]stable requires a Rockbox bootloader and an installation method via rbutil, so...no classic.
04:44:47[Saint]the *only* thing keeping nano2g back is USB. Classic needs a LOT more work.
04:45:16amayerreally? i run the classic and rockbox is lightyears better then the OF
04:45:35[Saint]also, while the nano2g *can* use emCORE it doesn't have to, and isn't needed.
04:45:53[Saint]In fact, there's no reason for an end user to install it.
04:46:27[Saint]the Rockbox bootloader is fine.
04:46:45amayeroh. that makes more sense now
04:46:53[Saint]and yes, really. the Classic still needs a fair bit of work.
04:47:12amayerwhat type of work does it need?
04:47:58[Saint]primarily stripping emCORE down to a bare minimum bootloader, ,rbutil installation, and OF support.
04:48:18[Saint]the latter isn't required for stable, though (I think).
04:48:30amayeris Dual boot possable?
04:48:39amayeron the classic?
04:48:57[Saint]Sure. Can we do it now? No.
04:50:00amayerwhat makes the classic so different from the other gens of ipod? as far as porting the rockbox firmware?
04:50:41[Saint]Nothing really. its actually incredibly similar to some models.
04:51:00amayerhmm... interesting
04:51:05JdGordonamayer: did you get the theme site running locally yet?
04:51:06[Saint]but, that doesn't mean any other ports were easier just because they happen yo be stable now.
04:51:51amayerJdGordon: i did but i had to rewrite the database class to work on my server for some reason... i think as long as i dont commit the database class everything should work fine
04:52:25[Saint]the big mess around, is undocumented hardware. so its mostly guesswork, trial and error, or comparison to similar components working currently.
04:52:41[Saint]if we had datasheets it'd be child's play.
04:52:50[Saint]we don't :)
04:53:11amayeri was going to say im guessing thats not something apple just gives out
04:53:42amayerdo you have an example data sheet for another player?
04:54:15amayerJdGordon: i need to fix something else then i will look at your forum bot(prbably tomorrow night)
04:55:58JdGordoncool
04:59:36[Saint]the painful bit is reversing the firmware to understand said components. the people that do this, I admire immensely. because they're a special kind of insane.
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17:41:23megal0maniacQuick question, where can I change the keymap for mpegplayer on the Fuze plus? Fast forward is right arrow, which makes sense usually. But mpegplayer runs in landscape orientation, so while watching a video, right is up...
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17:45:48megal0maniacGot the repository at home, just wanted to put it out there while I'm thinking about it
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17:47:32linuxstbmegal0maniac: They're defined in apps/plugins/mpegplayer/mpegplayer.c
17:47:42linuxstbJust search for "FUZE"
17:51:28megal0maniacWill do, thanks :) I'll compile and check it
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19:12:28amayerwhat is rockbox doing when it boots and says "scanning disk"?
19:13:00WalkGooddb refresh you may have scheduled
19:13:37gevaertsThat's the directory cache
19:14:03amayergevaerts: thank you
19:14:35amayerWalkGood: i have the database set to never auto update, but thank you for the suggestion
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19:59:00megal0maniacAnd with the blue LED thing. I love the way they look. But it isn't a practical colour to me. All my tech lives in my room and blue lights illuminate the room far more than green or red.
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21:58:53bertrikCan anyone polish check FS #12730 ?
21:58:55fs-bluebothttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12730 3Polish translation (patches, unconfirmed)
21:59:39bertrikIt's this guy's first patch, so I'm a bit cautious to just apply it
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22:00:05bertrikIt adds two previously untranslated phrases, doesn't modify any existing ones
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22:28:02*user890104 is wondering if anyone has an idea what's causing FS #12695
22:28:03fs-bluebothttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12695 3Drawing some of the WPS UI over lists on iPod Classic/CabbieV2 (bugs, unconfirmed)
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