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#rockbox log for 2012-09-13

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01:22:12[Saint]kugel: doesn't seem to bother CyanogenMod a lick.
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03:38:31[Saint]wow...weird.
03:38:58[Saint]cyanogenmods music app keeps stealing the audio stream from the lockscreen.
03:40:08[Saint]if I start playback with Rockbox and use the volume button skip on the lockscreen cm music takes over the stream.
03:40:40[Saint]oddly, playback is unaffected entirely.
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03:45:12[Saint]shit that is weird...
03:45:42[Saint]and Rockbox just goes "Oh, ok...I see I'm no longer needed" and quietly vanishes.
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06:25:45kugelp[Saint]: it doesn't bother me either
06:27:14AmbushAuIs anyone available to help with a boot issue on a Sandisk Fuze+?
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06:31:30AmbushAualas
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09:16:54Peddyhi, why is USB keypad mode disabled on sansa fuze v2? Thanks!
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09:21:34Peddyalso, what query should I use to search the new Gerrit patches page by keyword?
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11:48:32funmanPeddy: USB HID does not work on this model
11:50:01Peddythanks. I think i was getting HID (human interface device?) confused with 'hide internal drive', a separate setting
11:50:18Peddyi hope this feature gets enabled one day ;] i loved it on my fuzev1
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18:16:41slav3_kittenstupid question of the day! mp3gain (linux) tags don't seem to be read by rockbox. what's the best mp3 normalizer for linux that just drops a replay gain tag and does not modify the mp3
18:16:50slav3_kittenalbum mode would be nice
18:17:30funmanslav3_kitten: foobar2k maybe?
18:18:48slav3_kittenexcept that's a windows mp3 player no?
18:23:26funmanyes it is, but i expect it to have some replaygain features
18:23:37funmandoesn't mp3gain just set the id3v2 tags for replaygain?
18:24:16slav3_kitteni thought it did but it seems not to be working. i also don't have any windows machines an installing wine for this seems silly
18:25:47funmanperhaps rockbox just doesn't support the tags
18:26:07slav3_kittenit supports replay gain tags via ogg
18:26:25funmanah it does: it reads RVA2 tag from id3v2 (v2.4)
18:27:15n1sif the file has rg tags that rockbox can read they should be listed in the "show track info" list available from the wps context menu
18:28:35slav3_kittenoh it seems there is a bug in 1.5.1 of mp3gain that corrupts id3v2 tags
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18:34:26slav3_kittengod this is a pain in the...
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18:34:43slav3_kittengot it figured out
18:36:05slav3_kittenright now i need to fix all my id3 tags... awesome!
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20:08:28belakI'm currently using rockbox on an iPodClassic and I was wondering if there was a way to make it either act like the standard firmware when plugged in via usb or a way to make it just show up as mass storage... right now in my stereo it's just not working
20:09:41belakAlso, is there a way to see the status of all the daily builds?
20:10:05belakBecause the dev builds page doesn't show what rev the iPod classic build is on
20:10:13TorneIt does just show up as mass storage
20:10:34belakHm
20:10:40Tornehowever, your stereo is probably detecting that it has the device ID of an ipod, and thus expecting to be able to talk the ipod accessory protocol to it (which we don't implement over usb), or possibly just looking for the itunes db
20:10:52belakProbably...
20:11:02TorneLots of devices that *can* do mass storage will not do mass storage on a device they think is an ipod.
20:11:06belakSo there might be an option with the stereo?
20:11:08TorneNo
20:11:10TorneProbably not.
20:11:18TorneRockbox reuses the USB IDs from the apple firmware
20:11:22belakMeh
20:11:23Tornebecause we don't have any allocated of our own.
20:11:29TorneUsually the fix is to patch a differnet ID in there :)
20:11:35Torneso it doesn't think it's an ipod any more.
20:12:09belakHeh, that's fun... >_<
20:12:26Torneyeah, we've discussed how to work around this before and it's pretty gross
20:12:34Tornewe probably need an option to have our usb stack impersonate something else
20:12:40Tornebut it's hard to decide what.
20:12:56belakEven a dev option to put in a custom id would be nice
20:14:26Tornepatches welcome :)
20:14:33belakHeh
20:14:45belakSo, what is Car Adapter Mode?
20:17:20Torneread the manual
20:19:28belakAhhh
20:20:01belakIs there a way to disable mass storage mode with USB and just use a line in?
20:20:21Tornealso read the manual :)
20:22:17belakWhere should I be looking? I don't see that
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20:23:16AlexPbelak: What version of Rockbox
20:23:32AlexPThe version on the freemyipod page is months out of date
20:24:18belakI'm trying to download a nightly, but it doesn't look like those are up to date... the download was for 644b83e
20:24:34AlexPThe dev version is for the last change to the code
20:24:46AlexPI didn't think we had done daily builds for ages
20:24:52belakI've noticed.
20:24:52AlexPThey might still be there I suppose
20:25:08belakThere's a build for the classic, but it appears to be out of date.
20:25:14AlexPThere isn't any point, given we build on every code change
20:25:19belakBuild status is still listed for the classic...
20:26:06belakSo, is there anywhere I can download a more up to date version for the classic?
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20:26:46belakI mean, this looks up to date... http://build.rockbox.org/shownewlog.cgi?rev=4ebc7df;type=ipod6g But that isn't what the latest download is of.
20:26:51AlexPthe build status is listed for them all, I don't see your point?
20:26:59AlexPHang on
20:27:16belakI was hoping for a download of a newer version
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20:28:01Tornebelak: 4ebc7df was built, like, a few hours ago
20:28:07Tornethere is no newer version than that
20:28:34Tornethat's the most recent version of hte code
20:28:37AlexPTorne: The version that is http://build.rockbox.org/data/rockbox-ipodclassic.zip is from July
20:28:46belakTorne: I just downloaded the ipodclassic dev build and it was displayed as 644b83e
20:28:53AlexPI can't find where the build of the latest dev is
20:29:33belakI'm assuming http://build.rockbox.org/data/rockbox-ipodclassic.zip
20:29:42AlexPThat isn't it, that is old
20:29:45AlexPfor some reason
20:29:52AlexPIt should be new
20:29:53Tornehm
20:30:11Torneit's building it
20:30:17Torneupload failling?
20:30:26AlexPsince july?
20:30:29belakAh! Maybe it's ipod6g?
20:30:43AlexPProbably unlikely to be always the same client
20:30:43Torneyes
20:30:47belakDoesn't look like ipodclassic is the name used in the buildsystem
20:30:58Tornethe target name is ipod6g
20:30:59Tornenot classic
20:31:10Tornei imagine it got renamed in july :)
20:31:11AlexPbelak: yep
20:31:18AlexPTorne: yes :)
20:31:28belakAhhh, ok
20:31:30Tornewhy isn't it listed on the dev builds page?
20:31:41belakTorne: it's not a supported build
20:31:49AlexPDunno, probably as it is unsupported
20:31:50Tornebelak: shush you :)
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20:32:00TorneAlexP: yes, but didn't we have this discussion before?
20:32:02AlexPWhich is down to us not having a bootloader
20:32:09belakTorne: in the same way the sansa m200 isn't on there...
20:32:13AlexPTorne: I think so
20:32:15Tornebelak: okay, i mean: i ask this as a developer to other developers :)
20:32:23AlexPbelak: It isn't quite the same
20:32:25belakWell
20:32:28belakOk
20:32:37AlexPthe classic build is actually quite stable, it is listed as unstable for different reasons
20:32:38TorneAlexP: I thought we decided that the sensible thing to do was just let people download whatever we'd built, especially now that we fixed up the naming to make more sense
20:32:52belakI just remember someone pointing at the unsupported build and telling me that's why it wasn't on there
20:32:57AlexPTorne: I can't remember what we decided, but that seems to make sense
20:33:06Tornenow that it's labelled "dev build" instead of "current" i don't think we should feel like we should hide them
20:33:09AlexPbelak: It is, but they are unsupported for different reasons
20:33:18AlexPTorne: yeah, I agree
20:33:31Tornei mean, not having htem in the installer/stable list is fine :)
20:33:45Torneit'd just be nice if the dev build page linked to *all* the build system products :)
20:34:02Tornelikewise, are we building a nightly manual for it yet?
20:34:13Tornebecause telling people to read the manual fo rht evideo sucks
20:34:30TorneAlexP: want to send a www commit? :)
20:34:32AlexPdunno
20:34:49AlexPTorne: I don't think I even have that checked out :)
20:34:55Torneit's not veyr big! :)
20:35:14AlexPSpace wasn't the reason :)
20:36:09belakAh, there we go!
20:36:13belakAll up to date
20:36:17AlexPcool
20:37:11belakSo, is there a way to disable mass storage so I can use a line out when USB is connected?
20:37:35AlexPIf you hold any button when connecting usb it'll charge not connect
20:37:41AlexPthat would probably help
20:37:42belakAhhh, ok
20:37:48belakThat's what I was looking for
20:38:13belakAnd how would I go about changing the USB id so it's not recognised as an iPod?
20:38:42Tornepatch the code, compile a build yourself.
20:39:08Tornesorry :)
20:39:21Tornewe need to work out a better way, but nobody implemented any of the things we came up with last tim eyet ;p
20:39:27belakAh, ok
20:39:39belakWere any of the locking up issues fixed?
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21:27:51belakLooks like the locking up issues were fixed... ah, this makes me happy
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21:29:56n1swe should probably also delete the zip file with the old name as that's kind of confusing
21:33:00belakYes
21:33:15belakIt would be nice to have a link to ipod6g up there as well
21:34:01n1sBagder: ^
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22:01:05belakIs there a way with the rockbox utility to allow installing of themes for the iPod Classic?
22:02:07belakIt currently errors, saying there are no themes available
22:02:17gevaertsDoesn't rockbox utility have a setting to enable unstable or less supported targets somewhere?
22:02:57belakgevaerts: yes, and you can enable the classic, but it doesn't find any themes
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22:04:36gevaertsAh, wait, no. The theme site just doesn't know about the classic
22:05:06gevaertsMaybe you can tell rockbox utility it's a video?
22:05:59belakAh, yup
22:07:33belakThanks
22:08:36vedos_hmm.. some XM songs etc play too fast on my iPod Classic (latest Rockbox build). like they're playing twice the normal speed.
22:08:51vedos_normal Protracker MODs work though
22:09:12vedos_has anyone encountered that problem?
22:12:46gevaertsvedos_: doesn't sound familiar, but you could check the bug tracker to make sure. I'm not sure how popular mod playback is though, so maybe you're just the first one to see it
22:14:02gevaertsvedos_: our mod support is based on mikmod. Maybe you could try your files with mikmod on a PC?
22:15:38vedos_gevaerts: ok.. i'll try find out what the problem is. i'm quite sure that the mikmod on PC plays them well.
22:16:08gevaertsRight. If that's the case, it's most likely a bug in rockbox
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22:21:47saratogatry playing them int he sim to make sure its not some weirdness with your device
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